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- In the beginning of KC:D the combat feels quite clunky and unsatisfying, but later on in the game after learning to use combos and especially perfect blocks and master strikes you do begin to have a lot of fun with the combat in the game. In this video you can see an ambush on the road by a high level bandit, fight against the tournament Black Knight and the final battle of the Band of Brothers DLC.
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I wish I could re-experience the feeling of realizing, how easy this game is. All it takes is to learn and know what you're doing. Like in real life, you can't just pick up a sword and expect to be a knight. You have to work for it and train. That goes outside of combat too. You want to be a master persuader ? You need to talk to people. Somebody who rarely left his home town might not be good at that.
I love this game so much words can't express it enough. I visited the in game locations for real with my dad last summer and had a great time. There's only one thing missing for it to be perfect. ... A sequel.
I tried like 5 tourneys when I was a noob and got my ass handed to me, felt like it was impossible to win that shit. Now I can grab a pickaxe and win it easily. Such a good game, can't wait for a sequel.
It's not even about learning it's just about grinding if you have a high sword skill the enemy won't be able to block or counter your attacks as easy.
@@AA-sw5pb Swinging the sword like crazy won't get you far in the late game either so there is some learning involved.
@@OrangeDragon04 yes currently playing it and loving the sword fighting it definitely feels really awesome how you start from nothing to having to grind to make something of yourself
@@spoonsVSforks I lent the game to my friend. He finished it in 2 weeks. 140 days in prison 200 Groshen in his pockets and relatively mediocre armor.
Don't rush.
All about them perfect blocks. I can usually take down expert, highly armored opponents in under 30 seconds. I really don’t get all the hate for the combat system. It takes some time to get used to, and it helps having higher stats on your skills, but it’s soooo much better than the mindless, lazy combat in games like skyrim.
Yes for me it was the first game with a combat system like this and it was a breath of fresh air. Really liked it as well. Also the feeling of progression from the beginning to the end was really powerful.
I love it one on 1 it's up to your skill 1v2+ better have some good luck they don't attckack at once
The only problem I have with it is when it's more than one opponent you're fighting. It was clear this system wasn't intended for that
@@varjokas2811 man i bought the game yesterday and kept dying eveywhere
Probably my favorite combat in any RPG I've ever played. I didn't even know it got hate.
I've played this game for 3 years. The combat to me just doesn't get old. You fight for so long everything because so fluid, it's unreal. I may have a problem but I still love the combat. I love the archery, I love all the armor, and the skills. Our lad Henry, being a complete loser, to becoming an one man army.
1v1 i agree but as soon as you are fighting multiple enemies it becomes clumsy.
@@r3fotzirx yea mace and shield tends to be better when outnumbered
@@r3fotzirx As it should be
@@ourempires6457 to a certain extent i agree but when you see an enemy and know he is about to attack you difficulty should not be in the janky feeling controls
If it's in a game it will never get old
I wish more games like this had these semi-realistic Medieval combat encounters, sure i don't think slashing a guy with loads of armor would kill him (seemingly by making him shit himself to death or get gut worms) but all the grappling, the pommeling, sword bashes, half swords and the armor actually sort of working and general close quarter brawls.
Awesome stuff.
Tbf that last blow was a clean thrust to the face on a partially open helmet so that made sense. The death animations are defo wonky tho
I'm working on it
@@thebiglebrowski3695 true
You never played for honor?
@@Blake-ld7mx Ive never played either. Is it good?
That switching targets in a group fight that happened around 5:18 is the one thing that drives me crazy on the game.
I never fought a lot of large groups too much.. mostly because I always wanted to use a sword and its not really viable agaist armor or large groups.. just wanted to fight with the sword :)
@@varjokas2811 what weapon is viable against groups of enemies?
@@pedrowalter633 A good mace is the only option I think, combined with a good bow if they have full armor. If they dont have armor then I think it doesnt really matter what weapon you use.
The numerous pole arms you can find on some enemies can and will one shot, So pole arms are one hell of a way to obtain crowd control
I really like hammers and maces. Just charge in, smash a head in and profit. Also that fight at the end is very hard if your allies die quickly, Like they do often. Last time I played it only 2 of the mercs lived.
Yeah, had to repeat that fight so many times I lost count, sword not the best weapon of choise either :)
Swords suck so bad in this game and it's a pity. It's only decent against unarmored targets, and guess what, past the first few hours of the game every enemy ever is going to have armor on.
It's like the Skyrim stealth archer meme, hammers in KCD are just such an amazing multitool that solves every problem.
@@utes5532 That's pretty much realistic though hahaha
@@christpierre Every shitty bandit being in full armor is hardly realistic
@@utes5532 keep in mind these bandits are funded and supplied by istvan toth. And if you talk around with the men at vranik, most of the are mercenaries instead of common brigands. But I agree with you I wish there were more lightly armored enemies and in turn make those in full plate harder to take down
Honestly the combat system was the best thing for me in this game. In the beginning it was really hard but once you level up an figure out how things worked it was a blast. Going through the woods and taking out entire camps of Kumans and Bandits firstly with the bow and afterwards with my sword. Loved it.
Eh, it's different, but chiv or mordhau combat is so much better since you can freely make your attacks and actually take on more then one person.
If you don't believe me, the limitations of the combat start to show at 5:13
@@SyperDT I literally played this game from 0 to 100. I know how it works. Of course this game is more 1vs1 based (as it actually was in the middle ages) but after getting into it actually if you managed to parry and handle the things quick enough you could take out 2 or 3 enemies out by another.
@@SyperDT This game is actually trying to have realistic fighting unlike chiv
It's not so much learning how things work, but the game slowly nerfing the difficulty as your combat skills go up. The wobble and draw of the bow, speed of sword swings, combat perks, etc. It's expertly done, and makes players think they are vastly improving their skills, which they are to some extent, but most of the progression of "skill" is built into the game.
@@yakojjy These things you get to level up throughout the game. Even if it's just "nerfing" it would be like oblivion where you actually DO improve your skills just by playing and doing the certain things. Just like it is in real life, you know. Nothing special.
The combat system is satisfying as hell once you progress in the game and that's what I was trying to say. Why people always have to re-invent the wheel I don't get it.
I remember in the beginning of the game I ran scared through the wood, praying no one would abmush me. But later on, I stopped and challenged myself against 1v3 or 1v4. That's a real challenge. What I like about combat in this game is that, the rest don't wait while you fight one opponent, they just beat you from all sides. Once I got too cocky and got my ass handed to me, even though I was fully equipped and mastered long sord and defence. I had to call my horse and ran away with blood filling my screen. Lol.
the enemies with a lot of armor can easily be killed if you have a high level mace.
Thats true, but was too lazy to level up the maces, always used a sword. But yeah its not the best choise.
@@varjokas2811 but even a low level mace strikes to the head would take like 3 strikes to kill, the trick is to do a perfect defence and right after that strike at the head
@@rajatpatel8846 Yeah I admit I never found that out. Maybe I liked the prolonged battles with the swords :D
@@varjokas2811 makes sense, there is a aspect of realism that is indeed quite appealing
Yeah, I just nicked a ceremonial mace and left it in my chest for it to lose its stolen tag ready for me to use. I'm like level 2 in maces and axes and level 16 with swords at this point lol.
Bruh, I remember my 1+ hour battle skills grinding with teacher in Rattay. What a wonderful time
Always go for a clinch, after a perfect parry use the combo that goes: up, up-right, down-left. Easy way to win combats.
Either that or if you have them stuck in a corner, you can do a very simple combo… it’s literally just clinch, heavy from they blind side, clinch, stab, clinch, heavy swing from blind side. Rinse and repeat and then you can go crazy with heavy attacks if the enemy has low stamina.
I love stunting on Black Peter after scrubbing the floor with him at rhe Rattay Tourney
I was truly frustrated with this game when I began. Almost wanted to give up because Henry absolutely sucks when you are starting out. But learning the combat system is so rewarding- It feels so real, every encounter you manage to win feels gratifying in ways most games don't. I really hope they make a sequel
The true magic of this game reveals itself when you realize that you actually have to earn your shit slowly with training and experience.
They're making it right now :)
its a game i always struggled within combat but always seem to want to come back to to atleast try because it looks amazing
Just go to Robard ASAP, before you start the timed missions, practice a bit then learn the combo, practice, then learn the master strike, practice again for a bit and you should be set for a while. You improve in combat too. Once you learn the master strike, it gets easier, just gotta work on your timing.
@@vladpavel5728 thank you ! , im just finishng off a currently play through of another game then i was going to start this thats a mssive help
One of the most underrated Fighting Systems ever! It feels so good taking out enemies that you consider as impossible to beat before. I also enjoy For Honor but this fighting system is just perfect for a game like that. Can´t wait for second Game.
I played this game first when it just released and finished it. Then second a couple months ago and something happened in between all those years. They made weird changes to the combat, specifically the lock on system and the way that enemies block your attacks. Its damn near impossible sometimes to get out alive when youre jumped by more than 4 peasant bandits they reverse every attack like theyre masters and keep running behind you, which wasnt the case when the game was new. Still one of the best games and most immersive experiences of all time
The forests alone in this game we're pure gold. Like life simulator. The trees, sounds, animals and graphics. I wish the game had more content in the forests (While it had plenty). Something more along the lines of random events, like RDR2 had.
@@varjokas2811 ouu yeah bro dont get me started on the forests. I grew up in south germany and when I first played the game I felt like I was taking a hike right outside my door in the woods they nailed that shit
Instead of dedicating the mouse to selecting five different strike angles on that little star reticle, they should've left the mouse for only looking arround- and to aim prepared angled attacks at the enemy model's legs/arms/wrists/throat/armor straps etc. To this, they then should've implemented Dark Messiah's method for selecting these angled attacks while moving- so you can easily adjust to the enemy model's position before releasing them:
WASD keys + Power Strike preparation(hold mouse1). Power strikes in Dark Messiah can be held while moving freely until mouse1 is released- and ALT allows precise footwork in the combat space.
A+mouse1 = arms move the sword for a swipe to the right upon release.
W+m1 = arms lift the sword above your head for a forward thrust.
D+ m1 = arms direct the sword for a swipe to the left
S+ m1 = arms retract the sword into a prepared forward thrust(too much like W+m1,).
Mouse2 is for parrying/blocking and allso lets you seamlessly switch into the different strike stances as you move- without letting your swordarm down. Parry/block animation allso forces the prepared Power Attacks to snap into position(a glitch).
High level combat is walking backwards with a mace against 3 fully armored bandits,and hoping you get the uppercut master strike because warhorse accidentally added a zero onto the damage value of that attack. Rinse and repeat until they’re all dead.
“Wait, it’s all master strike?”
always has been
The combat does start to show its flaws when you have to fight more than one enemy. But damn this is a lot better than most other games where you just whack the left click until the number goes to 0.
That last fight was impressive. I'll give you that. Nicely done
I just picked up this game and cant believe i passed it up. Most underrated rpg out there
Just started myself. Loving it so far.
As much as the combos are amazing. Headcracker with a Ceremonial mace is just too op
The only thing this combat system fails at is rewarding aggression. It’s way better to wait and parry. It’s one of the better systems I’ve ever played. I hope the next game expands on it slightly
4:34 idk why but I wasn’t expecting this drip
Just started this game merely minutes ago and got clapped in a fist fight. Can't wait to fully progress and see where the combat goes. Loving it though.
In Rattay its best to train with captain Bernard, at the early points in the game its really difficult to beat anyone if I remember right, best to just run away in many cases 😀
Dont try bows its a cheat)
Deliverance players be like: *THIS SHIT IS LIT ASF*
Is the jab with the handle a skill under sword?
Im new in this game and i have to say:i love it
the combat in this game looks great until you realise how janked it is. just master strike constantly, win clinches so you can get a free hit, and feint nonstop. and even when you get a free hit from a master strike, enemy whiff, clinch, or feint there's a 50% chance any follow up attack will just let your enemy master strike you rather than allowing you to continue a combo. Unless any more experienced player can convince me I'm wrong then I'm fairly sure combos, and also any proper use of positioning, are heavily janked and that combat basically comes down to quick time events and abusing game mechanics. whenever I try to position and throw out thrusts from max distance the enemy just closes the distance with a semi teleporting master strike, and on the other hand getting too close to the enemy and trying to get behind them in 1v1s results in clipping into them and your attacks go right through them.
Get gud?
@@mayhem8258 no I'm literally asking if a better player can explain a way of fighting more effective than this. cheesing the game like a little bitch actually seems to be the best strat even if you are gud
I dont understand why you would ever as devs try to make a skillbased combat system but also introduce RNG.. like what? Just like how they dont make free saves, among other things
The combat is a very simple system disguised as a deep system. All you really need to worry about is if your skills and equipment are better than your enemies' and then you're golden. I didn't have too much of a problem after I realized this. Then the game got boring so I quit it. It's not that great of a game to be honest.
@@DukeWooze Combat isn't that bad, but it definitely needs some tweaks so that you have tactics against higher skilled enemies.
Plus when you play Chiv or Mordhau, you get a taste of a really good combat system and playing this one is just...
Hi there i just finished
Ginger boy mission
And i can't find captain bernard in the fighting area to learn combos or master strike
Any advice plz
Sometimes he walks inside the castle to sleep, after the bridge go to the chambers on the right, he sleeps upstairs if I remember correctly. Not sure where elsewhere he could be.
high level combat is so much fun
I like the combat to a point. 1v1 you can't lose, more than a 3v1 and your dead. Realistic to a certain extent.
imagine in VR
God i love this game so much
Scar maker is the only combo I use. It’s good cause it’s only three steps. I tried learning the other three step one. But what’s the point? When you knock a guy to the ground you can’t hit him in this game for some reason.
Yeah, I tried to learn other combos too but could not execute them ever before the enemy was able to block or dodge some strike, maybe once I managed to pull off some other combo but it was just not worth it. Especially if you fight multiple enemies its impossible.
Unlock and mash stab
Great videi
What is that strike/combo you use against Black Peter around 4:08? It looks like you strike his wrist, or right arm, and then immediately slash at his face. Thanks in advance, my man :)
Its one of the later longsword combos but u can use the free one for the same result
Nothing better than getting to the point you can take out 2 or 3 armored opponents within 1 to 2 mins as long as your dude doesn't decide to stumble
Bro really said “what’s up” mid duel 💀
the way he says Ale do prdele! with a english accent
Top tier strats for fighting more than one opponent? 1v1 the game was great but anymore than that I could never get the upper hand.
Best strategy i’ve found so far is to keep moving backwards while trying to keep them all in my field of view. Perfect block when the opportunity arises and be patient.
I'd never really payed too much attention to this game, but I have a question. For the first guy you took 3 minutes to kill him. I understand this game has a realistic combat and you have to think before attacking and blocking is as important as attacking, but do you have the option of like stabbing the enemies right through the stomach or cutting their necks or smt if they let their guard down to make it faster?
Well, not really, there are no mechanics like that. This fight took so long because I used a sword. The best option would be to fight with a mace in this game against armored opponents, then it is faster, but I like the sword more 😀Also the level of the enemy makes the fight such that they can block most of your attacks, so it always takes time.
6:12 Oooh! He's got some flashy armour! I'd very much like that set
the guy in full plate and blue shield drops the best armor in the game
Its so weird after playing a hardcore playthrough to watch this
Yo this Dark and Darker mod is crazy!
I really hope the inevitable sequel keeps the combat system. Id hate for them to simplify it
To kill 1 enemy took a long time
So...
What happen if we fight squad of enemy from 5 up to 10 enemy
Move backwards and masterstrike to parry them when they are close, you can also run to awful terrain and funnel them down to 1-2 people fitting at a time. Just watch out for running away since their tackles are ridiculous and pull you like a magnet
You didn’t have to do them like that with that last sortie 😮💨
I play Mordhau and I love it for having awesome mechanics and fighting system, but this another level to that combat gameplay
my favorite thing in the game is to max out my strength and just grapple opponents and as theyre staggered wack them over the head with my 2 handed sword, rinse and repeat until they fall over and you can stab them
Man sword battles must have taken ages cause you would always be hitting armor...
Best RPG of the Decade! I want to keep playing it but it's 30fps on consoles. I can't do that anymore! A 60fps patch for the current gen would be great
When you have multiple armored guys attacking you youll need the mace. I love swords too tho.
wish this game was more fluid, i had so much fun beating it, but it was so fucking difficult to pretend the combat wasn't whacky static garbage
guys,it looks complicated but its really not,he just spams q (which is block/counter key) then he blocks it.once in a night in kcd,i was riding horse and it was very dark,i got into bandit camp by fault,and spammed q until they were gone and killed 17 bandits in dark without see them just pressing q repeatly
Haven't played my ps4 and this game for years but might now take it out again for playing. Sword fighting looks better than I remembered. Man, I wish I hadn't pick up warhammer and focus skullcracking perk so early in the game to avoid long sworsfights. What I did was just block and smash everyones skull so quickly the game got little boring after while and I never finished the game. Nowadays I would enjoy more of the roleplaying of it that I wouldn't just try to "beat" the game finding a good strategy.
How come everyone always blocks 99% of my attacks? It takes like 10 hours to kill someone or is it cuz of my stats?
You need to up your warfare stats. Go pay bernard a visit
I recommend having a mace and shield along with a longsword in your inventory, as then you can switch between them (Mace and shield to quickly take down armoured, and longsword for lightly armoured opponents)
Or maybe using battle axes. They are able to refine like swords, and it has both blunt and slashing damages; both heavy and light armors could be vulnerable with it even though it has no super high damage.
@@Stu_pedasso908 I dont really have experience with battle axes, but I definitrely did miss a few armour breaking weapons such as the bettle axes, like you Said, and probably the war hammers.
@@VaclavTheHumanearly game though, axes are tough, and the lack of combos and moves really sets in during multi opponent combat.
In the game it also fills a role of a Swiss army knife
"Good at everything, master of none"
It's overall better to just carry, say, a bailiffs mace and Herods Sword than the best axe
how were you able to get a big skirmish fight against bandits at the last clip?
It is part of the DLC: Band of Bastards, one of the last quests on it. It is the only way to fight that kind of large group and its just one quest.
Master strikes fest as per ususal ;(
I saw a few combo's in there.
It’s the best combat system I’ve ever played. Yeah it takes a bit to learn maybe that’s why the hate? Awesome video. Learn every little thing to learn at that point?
Thanks, footage was recorded after playing through the main game and all DLC's. I loved this game, hope they make KCD 2.
@@varjokas2811 I’m taking my sweet time for that very reason ha. I hope they do kcd 2 also!! Come on warhorse 😎
idk it took some time to master this type of combat in the beggining, but after that I samashed in every opponents face in no time)
I love this game and I'm close to the end but I still haven't figured out how the fights work 🙂
Haha, yeah, took me several hundreds of hours to really learn the combat!
My combat tip with the mace charge forward get into bind overpower the bind smack head repeat
i feel like (actual) HIGH lvl combat is to easy .. :/ at the start u rly have to plan youre moves trying to take out bandit camps or repelling ambushes, later u just 1/2 hit 90 percent of enemies :/ cant seem to find any atm working mods to make it challenging again eigther
How the duck do you do the face slashing technique?
It is called master strikes and taught by captain Bernard in Rattay. Its basically just a more advanced version of perfect block. It becomes easier to execute the higher your weapon skill and level.
What your asking about is the scarmaker combo in the longsword skill tree
My preferred trick was to win a clinch and then slam a warhammer into my opponents head till he stopped moving.
most of the time i just used to keep distance and shooting with bow and arrows :D :D specially when i run into gank in woods... constantly walking back and shooting arrows :D
I shot one of the boss's 10 or so times head shots with a bow and arrow. wow this guy's invincible.
I'm very scarry in the woods surrounded by bandits, after all, comes the bandit dog and kill me!
I love this game!
Can you play in 3rd person? This kind of effects and viewpoint would make me dizzy if I were to play for too long. Lawd
Not that I know of, perhaps with some mod its possible but I'm not sure does the game even support mods to be honest
I'm feeling quite hungry
So, before you do the watch with Nightingale in Rattay, wait a day and go back to Bernard in the morning. Quickly go through the last couple training modules (combos ,master strike, etc.) Then do some free training with your chosen weapon until it gets dark. Go rest at the pub down the road. In the morning go back to the training ring and wait for Bernard to show up. Again, free train with him until dark.
I did this yesterday. I decided to go learn to read right after. Barely made it out of Rattay before I was ambushed by three Cumans ob the road. First guy gets master striked immediately and dies lol, the other two took a couple more master strikes.
I was like "hell yeah, that's what I call training."
I do happen to have a 1.5x experience mod installed atm, because I have three kids and a job. I wanted it to be quicker, without actually becoming cheaty.
I usually like to tire them out with constant persistence.
Who else solo cleared Pribyslavitz while sent to scout/sabotage the town? That was a good pay day.
This needs online
One on one combat is great fun. Taking on more than 2, the game controls break. It's stupid.
why does it say 1080p when its not
This game is a nightmare on the harder difficulty, i just run and die.
just press q and q whenever someone attacks you.i killed 12 bandits in night without seeing them by just spamming q
Lutas de exaustão realmente
My dumbass rode right through the rope 😭
me when I was into this game I would talk to the tv I would mind my business then some bandits try to rob me I be like "you dare "
notice a 17-18th century soldier just said "whats up?", didnt that catch phrase not come around till late 20th? 22 seconds in lol i think ill give this a try
I play this game for I dont know ,maybe 2 years and I still cant fight like this xD
But how do you do when surrounded by 6 peasants? If rather face 3 or 4 Cuman than a vying of peasants in an ambush. I did kill 5 Cumans in an ambush two days ago. That was the most I've liked in an early game.
The sword hits to the chin lmAo
You can do this or... clinch and head stab - next, repeat... not much fancy in the end.
bow and arrow for life
I ran thru the whole game with a warhammer and shield, I'd have loved a war maul or something of the like... Maybe a bit too fantasy for the period but in my last playthru the game was so modded I don't think it'd have been noticable
This game is perfect if the combat is not that clunky. Still waiting for next series
3:37 Did he just block with the hilt? What!
Haha, that seems to be correct 😀The sword even got through.
Use mace mate, Will bailif’s mace, armored bandit like that Will be done like 2-4 hit, but you need strengh +10 for that
I wish there were more big fights and finishers
0:23 did people say "whats up" in the middle ages?
i hate fighting 1v4 but luckily most of the time only 1 of the 4 has good armour so you can focus on him
Well, with a dog, the battle one on one can be super easy :)
This game was incredible.
Such graphics for such a small unknown never-heard of game studio.. and such a deep game world. Not sure how they were able to do it but other game studios should take notice. It's sad that the studio has not received the credit it deserves.. maybe im wrong but thats my perception of things.
If you have only one enemy against you and you know advanced combat skills, there is no need to attack at all! Do only a perfect cover with counterattack (Q + LMB) 😁