Magazine - Rhythm of Cruelty/Shot by Both Sides (Aplauso 1980) (Remastered) 1329pm 16.4.23 who is that man pretending to be a lady who likes saying: rock n roll...?
@@andrewjohnstone963 I think it's more that a lot of people don't know who he is... For those of us who like (at least) one of the bands he was in, he's appreciated. None of those bands were particularly mainstream tho', so he remains something of a cult figure.
They didnt come from the demise of punk Mr devoto left The Buzzcocks in 77 after The spiral scratch ep And incidentally punk in original form lasted 75 to the end of 77 Magazine were going from early 77 I should know i was there from age 15.
@@andrewjohnstone963 I was 12 and I went to a specialist record shop to buy Real Life, I was there too. Even though punk was quite obviously still happening, it is even now ( thank goodness) , Magazine were not a punk band. Having been beaten up by 'real' punks for 'liking that gay puffter's prog rock band and coming out of their gigs for being gay (I am not, if I was though I would shout it from the heavens) I will restate that Magazine are the best band to come out of the demise of punk, which only really was 'dominant' through the life of The Sex Pistols.
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 the sex pistols a rock band The real punk bands played at The Roxy little Eric wire chelsea It started and finished at these bands I attended the roxy several times Punk 75 77 then it was just pathetic bandwagon shite Anyone with any experience and knowledge will allude to this After the initial wave just din and racket Ex lion tamer
@@andrewjohnstone963 agreed, I hated the Sex Pistols, I love Wire, I still play Dot Dash with my best mate, a drummer, as well as Love like Anthrax, Gang of 4, life by ATV and a favourite since our school band, part time punks, TV Personalities which we now mix with Molly's Lips, Vaselines/Nirvana. Yes those were the punk bands, the pathetix, penetration , the fall, the blue orchids, etc
@@mikaelsjoberg1894 He's one of my favourite guitarists, but 'Oh Dear' is usually used in English as a negative or condescending term so I didn't understand your usage of it.
@@zararity Well..ok. for me its play with words , as in surprise , as in on your toes , as in something alerting , as in something that sweeps you....something extremely attractive....You get the picture..right? He was an amazing musician. He cant be appreciated enough.
Magazine really changed music. A cerebral experience indeed, bit still rock n roll. Barry Adamsons bass is truly epic. He played for The Bad Seeds later. Dave formula transcendant synth ,& Mc Geoch with his guitar sound which is so .....comfortable? What am I trying to say? The intro to shot by both sides, its like the first time you hear it, you already know it because its so 'right!' I know what I meant anyway. (Something to do with the fact that we were always on LSD when these brilliant bands were at their peak. As were we.) And it sounds just as good now as it did 40 years ago.
Absolutely brilliant, Wish I'd seen 'em live. Can't believe that for this gig the audience were all sat down and clapped politely at the end, they should have been tearing the shit out of that place.
@@zararity Thank you for your reply, obviuosly it was in a T.V. studio and knowing that I used the word 'gig' intentionally, ironically. To see this band play to a static audience who clapped politely at the end at first sight seems a bizarre crime to all things punk, but conversely it could be seen as pure genius, the juxtaposition creating an intense dynamic that pretty well defines the genre. I enjoyed it immensley, It was, remains so and always will be very strange.
@@rogerbrookes3515 I've seen the keyboardist commenting on how surreal it was, that's why they hammed up the performance and by the looks of it, had a bit of fun in the meantime!
@@zararity Yes I agree, they always do a great show. I'm off to the Rebellion punk, oi and ska festival in two weeks time should be a blast. If you like Magazine you'd love Rebellion.
You can also watch some of the their set at the Electric Proms here! Magazine - BBC Electric Proms 2009 (Camden Roundhouse 22/10/2009) (AUDIO REMASTERED)
@@alienvomitsex _"I wonder if the band name was chosen tongue in cheek."_ Very astute observation, sir. I will never be able to un-see that association now. :D
How can something be so amazing, yet completely and utterly terrible and cringe-worthy at the same time?!? 😂 The fact that the "audience" were never actually in any of the shots of the band, while the band were never in any of the "audience" shots is just a technicality, yes? 😏 Great to see, nonetheless, especially with Mr McGeoch.
Thank you for your valuable contribution and time. I'm sure the producers of this show from 1980 and the band will be disappointed in taking on your valuable feedback.
I have spoken with the band, they are going to go back in time to refilm this appearance on Spanish television in 1980, and they will perform live for you even though the producers wanted a mimed performance in the first place.
John McGeoch ABSOLUTELY UNDERRATED GUITARIST of ALL TIME!!!
100% a fact. Not only that but he was a sound visionary and an absolute master of sonic texture.
Magazine - Rhythm of Cruelty/Shot by Both Sides (Aplauso 1980) (Remastered) 1329pm 16.4.23 who is that man pretending to be a lady who likes saying: rock n roll...?
Correct
Who are these People that underrated John
Not by me or anyone I know
Names and addresses please!? Was it this or that!!!!!!
@@andrewjohnstone963 I think it's more that a lot of people don't know who he is... For those of us who like (at least) one of the bands he was in, he's appreciated. None of those bands were particularly mainstream tho', so he remains something of a cult figure.
It was recorded 40 years ago. Still sounds fresh to me.
My favourite band from 1978-1981 and so hard to find live footage. Totally brilliant.
Wow...that's raw. Infleuntial band that aren't appreciated enough by the establishment.
here just for Mr Mcgeoch
me too
just brilliance from Magazine...most underated band since buzzcocks! Howard was so haunting he created his own craft..wonderfull!!
I miss this band
I mean how many melodies can you fit in a 3 min pop song?? Mastery. Better than i even remember. Pordios!
Stunning, the best band to come from the demise of punk.
But, but, but, it never died. As Tim Sommer said in ‘82, Punk’s not dead, but the Punk within some died.
They didnt come from the demise of punk Mr devoto left The Buzzcocks in 77 after The spiral scratch ep
And incidentally punk in original form lasted 75 to the end of 77 Magazine were going from early 77
I should know i was there from age 15.
@@andrewjohnstone963 I was 12 and I went to a specialist record shop to buy Real Life, I was there too. Even though punk was quite obviously still happening, it is even now ( thank goodness) , Magazine were not a punk band. Having been beaten up by 'real' punks for 'liking that gay puffter's prog rock band and coming out of their gigs for being gay (I am not, if I was though I would shout it from the heavens) I will restate that Magazine are the best band to come out of the demise of punk, which only really was 'dominant' through the life of The Sex Pistols.
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 the sex pistols a rock band
The real punk bands played at The Roxy little Eric wire chelsea
It started and finished at these bands
I attended the roxy several times
Punk 75 77 then it was just pathetic bandwagon shite
Anyone with any experience and knowledge will allude to this
After the initial wave just din and racket
Ex lion tamer
@@andrewjohnstone963 agreed, I hated the Sex Pistols, I love Wire, I still play Dot Dash with my best mate, a drummer, as well as Love like Anthrax, Gang of 4, life by ATV and a favourite since our school band, part time punks, TV Personalities which we now mix with Molly's Lips, Vaselines/Nirvana. Yes those were the punk bands, the pathetix, penetration , the fall, the blue orchids, etc
Rhythm Of Cruelty 💙
the riff of riffs
If I had been there I would've gone up to the band afterwards and told 'em "At least 3 of you have a bald future..."
It has what has become a steadily-disappearing inevitability; a good melody. Several of them, in fact.
La introduccion era muy linda y en Castellano perfecto ♡
An absolute banger!
idk..but this show looks like it was from the year 1978(anyone agree??)...Give the Magazine Banda Everything!!
Love the clumping sound as she walks on at the start
Oh Dear...McGeogh....
Why the 'Oh Dear'?
@@zararity Hes a hell of Guitarist - wouldnt you agree?
@@mikaelsjoberg1894 He's one of my favourite guitarists, but 'Oh Dear' is usually used in English as a negative or condescending term so I didn't understand your usage of it.
@@zararity Well..ok. for me its play with words , as in surprise , as in on your toes , as in something alerting , as in something that sweeps you....something extremely attractive....You get the picture..right? He was an amazing musician. He cant be appreciated enough.
@@zararitythanks for bringing this back into the light , from under the floor boards! I am revived!
Sublime.
What a band 💙💙💙
Their not miming at all, oh no, lol. Still great to see more footage with John in it.
That's Robin Simon, actually.
That's John.
When I saw them in July of 1980, Robin was playing guitar. I'm not completely sure, but I'm pretty sure that this is Robin in this video.
It's not actually.
Glenn, it is 100%, most definitely John. You can see Robin in the great Rockpalast show that's out there.
Magazine really changed music. A cerebral experience indeed, bit still rock n roll. Barry Adamsons bass is truly epic. He played for The Bad Seeds later. Dave formula transcendant synth ,& Mc Geoch with his guitar sound which is so .....comfortable? What am I trying to say? The intro to shot by both sides, its like the first time you hear it, you already know it because its so 'right!' I know what I meant anyway. (Something to do with the fact that we were always on LSD when these brilliant bands were at their peak. As were we.)
And it sounds just as good now as it did 40 years ago.
Mrs Merton does Magazine. I wonder how many out of that audience went out and formed a band after seeing this
Fantastic. Took me back to the Lyceum gig all over again...........
Absolutely brilliant, Wish I'd seen 'em live. Can't believe that for this gig the audience were all sat down and clapped politely at the end, they should have been tearing the shit out of that place.
This wasn't a gig, it was a TV appearance in a studio.
@@zararity Thank you for your reply, obviuosly it was in a T.V. studio and knowing that I used the word 'gig' intentionally, ironically. To see this band play to a static audience who clapped politely at the end at first sight seems a bizarre crime to all things punk, but conversely it could be seen as pure genius, the juxtaposition creating an intense dynamic that pretty well defines the genre. I enjoyed it immensley, It was, remains so and always will be very strange.
@@rogerbrookes3515 I've seen the keyboardist commenting on how surreal it was, that's why they hammed up the performance and by the looks of it, had a bit of fun in the meantime!
@@zararity Yes I agree, they always do a great show. I'm off to the Rebellion punk, oi and ska festival in two weeks time should be a blast. If you like Magazine you'd love Rebellion.
I was lucky enough to see them on a ferry boat cruising up and down the river Mersey. The just magical days of my youth.
Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove
Thank you ! This is is fantastic !
"Aplauso" was recorded at the Joy Eslava nightclub in Madrid, not in Barcelona, where great bands such as AC-DC, Ramones, Madness performed
You can also watch some of the their set at the Electric Proms here! Magazine - BBC Electric Proms 2009 (Camden Roundhouse 22/10/2009) (AUDIO REMASTERED)
This must be from 1979?? Looks like promo for the Secondhand Daylight album.
Magazine is amazing
Intro sounds similar to "Scorchio" on the Fast Show. Joking apart though,these are 2 of the best songs EVER.
Wow. Thank you.😊
Fecking hell, scorcheo or what. 😉
miming or not --- DAMN - tooooooooo good!!!!
Brilliant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow!
What's the matter? You can't handle the casualty of cruelty? Or did this band shoot you from both sides? Rofl!!
The presenter is pretty hot !
00:54... Rhythm of Cruelty
04:10... Shot by Both Sides
fab fab fab
WTF ??........Awesomeness 😎
GRACIAS!!!
Well said fella I hope England follows suit 👍👍
What was well said?
you have great stuff
Well thank you, glad you're enjoying it!
Shabba 🕺👌
Only just noticed this after all these 40 odd years, Devoto really sounds like Steve Harley
Channel NINE
Scorchio!
Fucking ESTUPENDO😎😎😎
SCORCHIO!!!
Post punk en esencia, magazine banda de cabezera, con un sonido siniestro
The English 'Television'.
Indeed. I wonder if the band name was chosen tongue in cheek.
The greatest mix of prog and punk in rock history. They had it all.
@@alienvomitsex _"I wonder if the band name was chosen tongue in cheek."_
Very astute observation, sir. I will never be able to un-see that association now. :D
How can something be so amazing, yet completely and utterly terrible and cringe-worthy at the same time?!? 😂 The fact that the "audience" were never actually in any of the shots of the band, while the band were never in any of the "audience" shots is just a technicality, yes? 😏
Great to see, nonetheless, especially with Mr McGeoch.
WHO's LISTENING ??
Not the "audience", that's for sure.
Channel Nine Neus
Why does this say 1980?
When else would it be?
zararity 1978
@@SoulStylistJukeBox It was recorded at that time.
Lehlila Devandria No! That was not what Magazine looked like during 1980.
@@SoulStylistJukeBox Hmmm. Okay.
this is just lip syncing boring
Thank you for your valuable contribution and time. I'm sure the producers of this show from 1980 and the band will be disappointed in taking on your valuable feedback.
I have spoken with the band, they are going to go back in time to refilm this appearance on Spanish television in 1980, and they will perform live for you even though the producers wanted a mimed performance in the first place.