Why Don't Faith Healers Ever Visit Hospitals? An in Depth Look at This Common Criticism
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1. This video is attempting to answer the question of why “faith healers” do not visit hospitals to heal. It IS NOT attempting to answer the question: why can’t they heal anyone, anywhere, any time? Judging from some of the feedback I’ve gotten, there appears to be a conflating of these two topics.
2. To further elaborate on the question of “why does there have to be a worship service, or Bible teaching--why can’t they just go into a hospital and lay hands or pray?”--if we are going to remove the mechanisms these ministers claim God uses to heal through their ministries, while still demanding they heal-then where exactly should we draw the line? I mean, why go to a hospital at all? Why not just send handkerchiefs to people in hospitals? Why isn’t that the measurement to be used? Heck, why not just speak a word from their hotel room or wherever they happen to be to heal those at the hospital?
This actually reminds me of when Namaan the leper complained that Elisha told him to go dip in the Jordan seven times in order to be healed. “Why seven? Why the Jordan?”
So if people want to arbitrarily pick a method for healing, assign it to these guys, then demand they do it the way they think it should be done--great. But that’s not what this project was about. I set out to investigate the question posed, based on the actual claims made by the ministers themselves.
Continuationism is Biblical.
- People doing miracles who are not apostles proof-Luke 9:49-50, mark 9:38-41, Acts 6:8; 8:6; 10:45; 21:9, 9:10-17, Zecharias filled with SPIRIT prophesied in Luke 1:67. 6 examples
Prophets in acts 13:1
2 prophets in acts 15:32, 4 Prophetess in acts 21:9, Agabus in acts 21:10-12 & acts 11:27-28.
- Paul said that you lack no gift until the second coming of Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Cor 1:7)
- 1 Cor 13:1-8 says Gift of the Holy Spirit will not cease until we see Christ face to face, meaning until Lord Jesus Christ returns.
- Peter said in Acts 2:16-21 in the end days God will pour His Spirit on His people and they will all prophecy, see visions and dreams, sun will turn dark, and moon into blood until the coming of the Day of the Lord. ((Notice how the ends days begins during acts 2 and is still going on because the Day of the Lord has not returned which also means God is still pouring out His people so they can prophecy, see dreams and visions.))
- 1 cor 15:5-7 more than 12 Apostles
- Paul in 1 Cor 1 is speaking to all Christian (1Cor 1:2). And he also says that you DO NOT LACK ANY GIFT UNTIL THE DAY OF THE LORD.(1Cor 1:7-8).(notice says Christians should lack no, not one gift. 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 tell us about the Gifts and we can see that teachings and healing are said together so you can't say we Gift of teaching is present but not healing)
- Prophesying is a sign for unbelievers 1cor14:24-25
- Received Gifts when believed in JESUS acts11:17
- Eph 4:11 . Now if there still are Evangelists, Pastors, teachers, there also must be Apostles and Prophets.
- Bible says not to neglect Gifts that is in us 1 Tim 4:14. Bible says keeping using the Gift of Holy Spirit like a small flame that grows into fire.
- And remember paul said in 1 Cor 13:2 "though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains".
- Speaking donkey, Elisha throwing salt in spring to make it pure, Lord Jesus spitting on eyes to heal, Isaiah walked naked because God told him, Elisha threw a stick in water to get the axe from water, Paul' napkin, peter shadow, Isaiah was naked. God doesn't have to do rational miracles. He can do it however He wants
- Pray in SPIRIT
Jude 20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit
Eph 6:18
18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit
Eph 5:18
.. in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit
In acts 2:4, 4:31, 10:46 when they were filled with SPIRIT they spoke in Tongues.
James 5:17-18 Elijah prayed to God not to rain, notice power of prayer
- Unknown tongues accusations debunked
1 Corinthians 14:2
2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries.
1 Corinthians 14:28
28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God.
- And no the Gifts were not fading away in Acts 28 Paul was close to going asleep in the Lord (dying) he went on the island of Malta, and a poisonous snake bite him (the islanders thought he was gonna die) but nothing happened to him rather he healed all who came to him through the Holy Spirit. Second example is John when he was old wrote the Book of Revelation way after the Apostles were martyred. So you can see the Gifts were not fading.
- There is difference between Apostles and miracles doers( Apostles do perform miracles as well) - 1 Corinthians 12:28
28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.( As you can see first are Apostle and around 4th are people with Gifts of Holy Spirit, you don't have to be Apostle to do miracles). Futher proof, John 14:12
12 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
Mark 11:23-24
23 For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says.
Acts 21:9
9 Now this man had four virgin daughters who prophesied.
James 5:14-15
( Notice prayer of Faith will heal the sick, not pray of Apostle)
- Holy Spirit speaking directly= Acts 13:2, 16:6
- God speaking in dreams and visions
To non apostles= acts 9:10-12, Matt 2:12
To apostles= acts 16:6-10; 10:17; 13:2-3; 18:9-10.
- Now my main argument ,if the New Testament says not to commit adultery and I say commit adultery then what will you call me? A heritic right, because I'm going against the New Testament. Same way the New Testament says do not forbid speaking in tongues(1 Corinthians 14:39) , not to despise prophecies (1 Thessalonians 5:20), desire Spiritual gifts(1 Corinthians 14:1), Lord Jesus Himself said that these signs will follow them that believe (mark 16:17-18),and you(cessationists) FORBID speaking in tongues, you(cessationists) despise prophecies, and you(cessationists) insult those who desire Spiritual gifts which means you(cessationists) are going against New Testament and Apostles and most importantly you are going against Lord Jesus Himself which concludes you(cessationists) are heritics.
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The same Jesus which said "father take this cup away" is the same Jesus who said "ask anything in my name and I'll do it", is the same Jesus who said "if you have faith of a Mustard Seed, you can move mountains", is the same Jesus who said "23 For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says. . Is the same Jesus who said "the thing that I did greater than these you'll do" is the same Jesus who said "17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”. Same Jesus who said," if you leave wealth, wife , family, in this life will get 100 folds back in the same life(mark 10:29-30)". Same Jesus who said "all things are POSSIBLE with God",. Same Jesus who said "nothing will be impossible for you(Matt 17:20)". I hope you get the point
One more thing in Isaiah 53 with forgiveness, healing is also given. And if you think that only forgiveness is given then you are wrong. Isaiah 53:5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
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God said He will raise a prophet like Moses every generation.
Cessationist say only in the time of Moses Elijah and Lord Jesus miracles great miracles happened. Not true 👇
Moses, abharam, Samson(super power), Samuel(bringing rain to prove his prophetship), David prophesied, Saul did as well and also saul's messengers, Nathan the prophet, Gad the prophet, Man of God(1 kings 13), and old Prophet(1 king 13 as well), Elijah(Elijah called himself prophet in 1 king 18:22) and he also called himself a man of God (2 kings 1:10), Elisha(2 kings 5:8),(. ahijah the prophet(1 king 14), jehu the prophet(1 king 16), 100 Prophets (1 king 18:4), Prophet ( 1 kings 20:13), a man of God ( 1 kings 20:28), micaiah the prophet (1 kings 22), sons of prophets in Bethel (2 kings 2:3), sons of prophets in Jericho (2 kings 2:5), 50 men of sons of prophets in Jordan (2 kings 2:7). prophet Isaiah saves Hezekiah (2 kings 19). Daniel the prophet. Huldah the prophetess (2 kings 22:14). Prophets in(2 kings 23:2 notice it says Prophets pural). (2 kings 23:18)The sons of asaph, and of Herman, and of jeduthun prophesying with music (1 chro 25:1). shemaiah the prophet (2 chron 11:2, 2 chron 12:5). Prophet iddo (2 chroni 13:22), more Prophets (pural) God sent to save His people 2 chronicles 24:19. A man of God in 2 chroni 25:7, and a prophet as well in 2 chron 25:15. Prophet oded 2 chroni 28:9. another prophetess in 2 chron 34:22, Jer 32:20 "says You have continued signs and wonders to this day"
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Elijah, Elisha took few tries
1 kings 18:43; 17:21
2 kings 4:33-35; 5:14
Mark 8:23-26.
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Being charismatics doesn't mean you're not Sola Scriptura
- Sola Scriptura means Scriptures are the Sole infallible authority for doctrines. Doesn't say only authority rather only infallible authority. There is Church authority as well but it's not infallible. Rather cessationism is unbiblical because there is not one verse that say Gift of the Holy Spirit ceased. Bible do not forbid speaking in tongues 1 Corinthians 14:39 , don't despise prophecies 1 Thessalonians 5:20, desire Spiritual Gifts 1 Corinthians 14:1, Lord Jesus said signs and miracles will follow them that believe Mark 16:17-18.
-There were 50 prophets in the time of Elijah but their writings were not there.
- Same with Apostles Barnabas. His writings are not there. Where as Luke who is not Apostle his writings are Scriptures.
- Prophetess Anna in Luke 2:36-38 her writing are not there
- acts 11, 21 Thus says Holy Spirit
- many Prophets in acts but thier writings were not written/ 50 Prophets in Elijah' time their writings were not added.
- Paul said if any thinks he is a prophet let him acknowledge that my writings are Commandments of God. There were prophets in the time of Pentecost but their writings are not there.
Great to see a well done video. Thanks for putting up a new one.
Excellent presentation, SJ, as always.
I couldn’t say it better!
I appreciate what you do,God bless you we need more of this, I think we are in trouble of throwing out the baby and bathwater in the body of Christ
Good stuff brutha!
Glad you are still around and tackling hard questions! The spirit will heal as he wants with the gift of healing does seem contrary to God wants all healed. Maybe it is better to think of it as the Holy Spirit heals only when He has willing party(ies) and in His own timing. I had a thought just in the last 2 days to ask a sceptical Christian, "Were the Israelites free from sickness and diseases? If they say probably not then I would point them to the promise of God to keep sickness and diseases away from their land if they obeyed Him. So was God lying? If He did it for Israel in the old covenant, then surely it is not unreasonable to at least think it is possible in the new one.
God will do as He sees fit not mans will
Many healing ministers DO go to the hospital, if they are allowed in. Many hear in Brazil go to the emergency room waiting room.
Lovely... thank's... ⭐
Thanks friend 🍃
The underlying assumption of the critics is that faith healers claim to have the ability to heal at will, which isn't the case and wasn't even the case with the apostles in the book of Acts.
How about they just go to hospitals and heal the sick. Because they love the people and not caring what other people think?
They do. And, as it turns out, they don't bother telling you about it.
A couple thoughts about this: 1. "Faith healers" (also known as "Christians") used to visit hospitals all the time. John G Lake was famous for doing it... and he was famous for emptying them out. 2. In other countries, like Brazil and Mozambique, for instance, "faith healers" regularly clear out hospitals; even today.
The accusation is curious to me. The people making them don't know it happens because they don't know any "faith healers"; they're too busy hanging out in their echo chamber. They have no idea how common divine healing actually is.
Benny did visit hospital. Just do some researches before you give a wrong conclusion. Anyway, I don't believe in Benny. But facts do matter.
Discernment ministries of 30 AD: “Jesus should have healed everyone at the Pool of Bethesda, not just the one guy…”
“Jesus and the disciples never visit leper colonies…”
Some critics will never be satisfied, lol.
Interesting how much they sound like Pharisees, isn't it?
While you may have categorized Benny Hinn correctly as one who "depends on the gifts of the Spirit," his ministry is a BAD example of a healing ministry because it is all a show, as his own nephew, Costi, has attested to for years now.
@@ccsluf it may be a show. But there are also countless healing testimonies from all over the world. Thats talked about here:
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Even Costi has admitted to knowing someone healed through his ministry.
@@theobjectivebeliever Do the examples of actual healing justify manipulative way in which he conducts his healing services? I don't think the victims of Hinn's con tactics would think so. And in reference to your video linked above, I only listened to #1 of the "5 things." It's just another example of how some good fruit that may come from Hinn's preaching the gospel does NOT excuse the rest. Did David's "good" deeds "balance out" his murder and adultery? Mike did, in fact, acknowledge that there were likely some legitimate healings from Benny Hinn's ministry, but that is not Mike's concern. His concern is that rather than TENDING to the widow and the orphan, he VICTIMIZES them through con tactics to make himself richer.
I have no doubt that Benny believes the gospel. He just seems too steeped in his love of mammon to GENUINELY repent. (His statements of 'repentance" are nothing more than damage control, because there is no visible change in his behavior. Zaccheus gives us a picture of what true repentance looks like in Luke 19. Benny is not close to true repentance.
@@ccsluf we just share the information to help people make a more informed decision. Folks are free to interpret it however they’d like.
Dress it up in as much Greek salad as you like
The fact remains your making more excuses than Benny hinn
And that's your right to wander off down the dark path
It's your choice