As a non scientologist in the UK, I have watched so many of your videos and learnt so much about this scary organisation. Keep up the good work and much love ☺️
The only way somebody would go in and pay $20 million dollars over and above what a piece of property is worth is if they're getting a silent kick back on the excess purchase price. One of the most common investment fund Grifts.
if you cant get it for $20 million less and you think its going to go much higher than its worth the extra $20 million who cares if cardone made money on the sale what the end result?
Or perhaps they see the potential of the property for the long play and believe that obtaining such an asset in this market will ultimately deliver a very good return for investors.
@@stephenricci1888 If it was $20 million over fair market value, the investors likely could have gotten an equivalent property for a much lower price were they given an option, which they were not. Many of the investors signed on because they were told the fund they were investing in bought properties below market value. That is fraud.
Defendant - Cardone Capital LLC is defining the issue as an investment that went bad and the Plaintiff - Luis Pino is defining the issue as fraud happening because they weren't properly instructed on what they were actually TRYING to invest in. It's like a billboard or a label; it needs to say exactly what it is and if it doesn't then the label is false which can be considered fraud.
cardone had all his disclaimers and the guy did not lose any money in 16 years nobody not 1 person has lost money with cardone capital just a crybaby and lawyers trying to suck money from cardone capital
@@stephenricci1888 Look if your claiming what you are claiming. Than there are a few people suing Grant Cardone. Then that means there are people out there that have not made money with Grants company. Maybe you should rethink you posted.
@@xPumaFangx The plaintiffs attorney said his clients distributions were in the 4% range. He did not lose money just that he invested thinking he was going to get the top of the projections and did not.
@@rmblocker He lost money that could have been gained in other higher investments. If Cardone promised 12%, delivered 4%, he could have invested elsewhere at 7% if he had 'realized' that he would get 4%. Whether there is fraud or not the case can determine. I've no clue if it is recognized in this context, but loss of potential income is recognized in many laws.
@@MoriguTheDead Please show me the investments, in that time frame he was in, that would have paid 7% with as little principal risk and tax benefits backed by a hard asset like real estate? It really is the case of the greed bug. You look at the potential high return and get less you feel you were scammed. They are making an INVESTMENT (Long Term) that is why returns are lower. He could of speculated on anything and made more, made less or had an actual principal loss. I GUARANTEE he did not LOSE any principal. Just sour on his expectations.
The lawyer who prepared Cardone Capital's documents has been disbarred and fined in connection with a penny stock pump and dump. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned that
Because it's not relevant to the arguments here maybe? One crime doesn't mean his document preparation is bad or fraudulent... Plus he was punished for his conduct. Are you suggesting that someone should be held responsible for someone else's professional actions? 🤔
I own over 40 apartment units. Nothing compared to grant Cardone, but from someone in the same industry, using the tax records as a justification for price is just unfair. In most states the assessed value from the jurisdiction can only go up a few points (3% per year in my state). while rents for example in the past 4 years have gone up 20% year over year in my state. The value of real estate is based on the income it brings in. So if this seller had the property for more than a few years the value of the property to the market (a new buyer) will be WAY more than the assessed value (the value the state gives the property for tax purposes) which is why this guy says he bought it for 20m more than it’s worth. For example I just did an appraisal from a bank on one of my properties: I bought it in 2010 and the assessed value from the state is now at 600k. The appraisal came back at 4.2M which is the price the market has valued that property. So now based off his logic if I sell at 3m which is an offer I would laugh at, this person overpaid by 2.4m and is defrauding investors????
@@richarddipietroii3863 The 9th Circuit is notoriously liberal. Cardone is 100% the opposite. If they could have found a way to nail him they would have. If the 9th Circuit green-lighted the transaction as not breaking any fraud laws, and if the plaintiff's attorneys were so clueless as to be unaware what sets the price of a rental property (just like any business, the selling price is based on the revenue - not assessed value!) - no wonder the plaintiff lost. If I were that plaintiff - and I found out my attorney had concocted a bogus claim of fraud that 'Cardone overpaid - see, look at the assessed value from govt') - I would sue my attorney. The first thing you learn as an investor in real estate is "what is the gross rent multiplier". Assessed value is 100% not a market price. Everyone knows that. Or should. I suspect that the standard disclaimer "past results do not guarantee future results" was part of the investment documents. So complaining about 'lower than expected investment return' is another bogus argument made by the plaintiff's attorneys, if this proper disclaimer was made. When a business is sold, the market price is based on the revenue of the business. That includes rental property.
This was so interesting to see an appellate court at work. It really resembles a meeting of intelligent minds rather than playing to a house during a jury trial.
How can a plaintiff have the answers before filing when much of the minutia related to their complaint cannot be constructed without discovery. It’s precisely this concept that it is at the heart of how corrupted our judicial system is.
I generally assume attorneys are well spoken, but Pino’s attorney is about as eloquent a speaker I’ve ever heard. I could listen to this guy read the label off my cough syrup bottle.
I'm extremely biased. Never ever want Cardone to win at anything. Entitled bloated ego has gotten in the way of truth & honesty with business real estate dealings. I want the appeal to win!
I am very impressed with the judges, and the questions they asked. It's overdue for Cardone (and some other well known "business men" to deal with the ramifications they deserve.
Im sorry to say. But this case really seems like the perfect reason why a class of investors are identified as a non accredited investors based on their inability to handle investments financially or mentally. 🤷♂️
exactly .. not knowing that assesed value in many cities and counties are sometimes done infrequently on purpose or kept below actual value to keep the area attractive to homeowners/investors. I dont even like Cardone but even though his lawyer is less eloquent and shiny she was right about everything mostly.
Investments are not put options. The industry does have an obligation to disclose honestly and thoroughly and ensure understanding. However, if the education and disclosure is thorough and the investor proceeds and the downside is materialized the investor should not come back and sue. It is called a risk asset for a reason. The risk should be commensurate with expected return. It is not a treasury or cash.
It's appeals so they've already read everything from the lower court. They do that so they can more clearly define the appeal points with the attorneys and see what the meat of arguments are.
Aaron, you should really reach to one of the famous lawyer TH-camrs out there and discuss this case and the legal issues of grant Cardone in general! Some of them literally spend all their time reviewing famous legal cases that are currently happening or whatever legal topic is trending in the news. Plus you can have an overlap of subscribers between their audience and yours.
@@BallonRouge420 yeah, it would be fun to see LegalEagle and Aaron go over the civil suit, as they have matching energy, and then get Glenn Kirschner on, if a criminal suit follows (if he has time, he's terribly busy with all the GOP stuff atm)
@@Finkeldinken legal beagle is not a practicing attorney... the lower subscriber count PAs on TH-cam routinely make fun of and cringe at his takes on real trials because he has such little experience in them. AFAIK he is a law professor at Georgetown, and may not have ever tried a case in his life.
I’d be interested to see how this is ruled because if I’m not mistaken it’s one of the highest profile cases involving claims made on various social media outlets with regards to investing.
Watch 21:18 - 23:15. My take is that Cardone lost right here. My prediction is the Pino wins and the Appeals Court finds the lower court erred in several key areas. Where Pino's counsel did very well was to say that these matters could be taken up in discovery. This is the essence of the matter as I see it: In dismissing Pino out of hand, the lower court did not allow the plaintiff to engage in discovery and thus denied Pino his right to a fair trial. There are legitimate triable issues. The lower court ignored these legitimate triable issues.
I'm still getting TH-cam ads for his workshops. One of many scammers allowed to advertise on this platform. People who really know how to make money don't tell others.
It’s amazing I’m seeing this today. A couple of days ago, I stumbled upon his ad and signed up for his webinar, I listened for less than 5 minutes and checked out, there was something about it that threw me off. TH-cam should pull his ads.
He had signed a deal with penguin so they had the publishing rights to all his upcoming books. So he named the next one a 'booklet', guys a loser with no morals it's all money money money.
I think it should be fairly easy to prove the “wealth management speeches” in question are actually upsell/solicitation events. That’s a very common practice in the industry regardless of its legality.
So, the issue is whether or not Cardones social media statements must be held to SEC standards. After all, radio and TV communications are held to SEC standards.
WAY back in law school, I interned at the SEC. If the SEC makes a determination as to what can and cannot be said in a prospectus or advertising, the recipient ignores this at their own peril. The SEC LOOKS for high-profile cases to litigate. GC's self-admitted big mouth does not bode well with regard to a decision by the Commission to bring an action.
It seems like this appeal could have future precedence import due to its implications on social media marketing and IG’s newest attempt to drive traffic toward advertising. Fascinating.
@@jacstoneu the case is a joke. And it’s hardly the “bombshell finding” this youtuber is claiming in his over sensationalized TH-cam headlines. As far as the 4% return. You sound like someone that doesn’t have any money invested anywhere
That was really hard to follow. All 3 judge's engaged in questioning both attorneys. Both attorneys are very good. Looks like some shady stuff is going on. That building he bought for way over market value is very suspicious. I wouldn't want to be a defendant in that court. I have a hard time will 1 judge, he's got 3. For someone who can predict the future, he didn't see this one coming. Hope to see more of this circus.
It's a tactic. Cardone buys the property himself first. Then, he sells it to his own Fund at a much higner price. He is on both sides of the fence. Extreme capitalism games.
The big problem is that Cardone Capital investors are usually not qualified investors, so their investors do get their info from social media-- not from boilerplate legal language.
Hey A-A-Ron! Thanks for sharing this! Always love seeing your videos, even recently went back to older ones as well. I really like the judges in this. At first I thought they may be more pro Cardone but they were very fair on both ends. Really questioning trying to grill both lawyers on their case. I truly hope this appeal gets approved and Cardone gets punished for his fraudulent ways (and eventually Scientology)
The judges were hanging on every word by Mr. Pino's lawyer . The judges were probative with there questions and let the lawyers define snd interpret certain sections of the law and case precedents . The judges were gauging the lawyers the understanding of the law and how they applied the law to their arguements . The judges at one point the judge had to challenge Mr. Cardone's lawyer , holding her feet to the fire . I think the court is going to rule in favor of the plaintiff !
If someone guarantees you a certain rate of return that screams fraud. No one can guarantee you how the market is going to perform. How these investors fall for this I will never know
Nope... you realize how little experience he has? He has zero federal... which is not uncommon, but you don't see those lacking experience talking so loudly or frequently.
You know what it seems like? It seems like Grant Cardone came up with this real estate scam, and then built an investment fund around it. So much of the offering seems like it was made to sound legit. I think Pino figured that out.
Yeah you don’t need money when you steal From others and lie to the people coming into your company. Why on earth would you need money when you’re so busy stealing it. SMH
Tax valuation is not market valuation. If it was then banks would never have to hire appraisers to very value for loans. Doesn't look good for Pinot even thought Cardone is clearly not one to trust.
This seems like a classic case of throwing the baby out with the bath water by the district court. But appeals are notoriously hard to win. No judge wants to overrule another. We’ll see.
His fund is doing like they all are right now. It's in the tank and like everyone else, I've been trying to get back to cash in hand. Not going well so far. Bear markets hurt.
Alyte from Legal Bytes, where you were just a guest, could break this down to help us see the legality of this argument. Aaron, you can fill in how Scientology is twisting law to meet their desires. You and Alyte make a great team to address Scientology and their legal foibles.
@@GrowingUpInScientology Alyte would totally come on. That is how “ Law-tube” supports each other. 😊. I’m glad that you were her guest. She is awesome.
Thanks A-A-RON! So I finally watched episode 7 of season 1 of Scientology and the Aftermath. Oh. Oh. Thanks for sharing your story, for helping people leave the 'church,' and for your up-to-date content. I really wanted you to win the Clearwater city council position. Questions : Did you say that Scientology supported Trump with their fair game tactics? Did you say that you have upcoming content about Elizabeth Moss? Thanks again for your story and I am so sorry that you went through all that. Amber
I still think that just because he has videos and Instagram, that should still be considered advertising, because someone sees that they don't just mail him money, they go through a broker. He needs to be held responsible at least for the shit he spews! Thanks Aaron!
As a non scientologist in the UK, I have watched so many of your videos and learnt so much about this scary organisation. Keep up the good work and much love ☺️
Yes to all of that except I'm in NY. B)
ditto!
Me too!
and me
The only way somebody would go in and pay $20 million dollars over and above what a piece of property is worth is if they're getting a silent kick back on the excess purchase price. One of the most common investment fund Grifts.
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if you cant get it for $20 million less and you think its going to go much higher than its worth the extra $20 million who cares if cardone made money on the sale what the end result?
I just hope lawyers don't do the same.
Split the fees and play it out
Or perhaps they see the potential of the property for the long play and believe that obtaining such an asset in this market will ultimately deliver a very good return for investors.
@@stephenricci1888 If it was $20 million over fair market value, the investors likely could have gotten an equivalent property for a much lower price were they given an option, which they were not. Many of the investors signed on because they were told the fund they were investing in bought properties below market value. That is fraud.
Defendant - Cardone Capital LLC is defining the issue as an investment that went bad and the Plaintiff - Luis Pino is defining the issue as fraud happening because they weren't properly instructed on what they were actually TRYING to invest in. It's like a billboard or a label; it needs to say exactly what it is and if it doesn't then the label is false which can be considered fraud.
cardone had all his disclaimers and the guy did not lose any money in 16 years nobody not 1 person has lost money with cardone capital just a crybaby and lawyers trying to suck money from cardone capital
@@stephenricci1888 Look if your claiming what you are claiming. Than there are a few people suing Grant Cardone. Then that means there are people out there that have not made money with Grants company. Maybe you should rethink you posted.
@@xPumaFangx The plaintiffs attorney said his clients distributions were in the 4% range. He did not lose money just that he invested thinking he was going to get the top of the projections and did not.
@@rmblocker He lost money that could have been gained in other higher investments. If Cardone promised 12%, delivered 4%, he could have invested elsewhere at 7% if he had 'realized' that he would get 4%. Whether there is fraud or not the case can determine. I've no clue if it is recognized in this context, but loss of potential income is recognized in many laws.
@@MoriguTheDead Please show me the investments, in that time frame he was in, that would have paid 7% with as little principal risk and tax benefits backed by a hard asset like real estate? It really is the case of the greed bug. You look at the potential high return and get less you feel you were scammed. They are making an INVESTMENT (Long Term) that is why returns are lower. He could of speculated on anything and made more, made less or had an actual principal loss. I GUARANTEE he did not LOSE any principal. Just sour on his expectations.
Here’s what’s bewildering…. How is Scientology still allowed to get away with all of this 🤦♂️
Because gc is pouring $ into scientology. Once they deem gc is a liability, they will cut ties, work with the Feds to throw gc under the bus.
Scientology isn't part of this case.
@@HonestTakeOnStupid isn't Cardone a scientologist?
@@angelsamongus9528 sure. Ok I'll bite. How is scientology part of this case?
@@HonestTakeOnStupid are you serious dude…?
The lawyer who prepared Cardone Capital's documents has been disbarred and fined in connection with a penny stock pump and dump. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned that
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Because it's not relevant to the arguments here maybe?
One crime doesn't mean his document preparation is bad or fraudulent...
Plus he was punished for his conduct. Are you suggesting that someone should be held responsible for someone else's professional actions? 🤔
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I own over 40 apartment units. Nothing compared to grant Cardone, but from someone in the same industry, using the tax records as a justification for price is just unfair. In most states the assessed value from the jurisdiction can only go up a few points (3% per year in my state). while rents for example in the past 4 years have gone up 20% year over year in my state. The value of real estate is based on the income it brings in. So if this seller had the property for more than a few years the value of the property to the market (a new buyer) will be WAY more than the assessed value (the value the state gives the property for tax purposes) which is why this guy says he bought it for 20m more than it’s worth. For example I just did an appraisal from a bank on one of my properties: I bought it in 2010 and the assessed value from the state is now at 600k. The appraisal came back at 4.2M which is the price the market has valued that property. So now based off his logic if I sell at 3m which is an offer I would laugh at, this person overpaid by 2.4m and is defrauding investors????
@@richarddipietroii3863 The 9th Circuit is notoriously liberal. Cardone is 100% the opposite. If they could have found a way to nail him they would have. If the 9th Circuit green-lighted the transaction as not breaking any fraud laws, and if the plaintiff's attorneys were so clueless as to be unaware what sets the price of a rental property (just like any business, the selling price is based on the revenue - not assessed value!) - no wonder the plaintiff lost.
If I were that plaintiff - and I found out my attorney had concocted a bogus claim of fraud that 'Cardone overpaid - see, look at the assessed value from govt') - I would sue my attorney. The first thing you learn as an investor in real estate is "what is the gross rent multiplier". Assessed value is 100% not a market price. Everyone knows that. Or should.
I suspect that the standard disclaimer "past results do not guarantee future results" was part of the investment documents. So complaining about 'lower than expected investment return' is another bogus argument made by the plaintiff's attorneys, if this proper disclaimer was made.
When a business is sold, the market price is based on the revenue of the business. That includes rental property.
Thanks Aaron for doing and sharing everything that you do!! 🙏 ✌️♥️
This was so interesting to see an appellate court at work. It really resembles a meeting of intelligent minds rather than playing to a house during a jury trial.
I have gotten lucky enough to catch two updates immediately!! This will be awesome!1 Howdy A - Aron!
The TH-cam ad that came on before this video played was a Grant Cardone ad🤣🤣🤣
How can a plaintiff have the answers before filing when much of the minutia related to their complaint cannot be constructed without discovery. It’s precisely this concept that it is at the heart of how corrupted our judicial system is.
I generally assume attorneys are well spoken, but Pino’s attorney is about as eloquent a speaker I’ve ever heard. I could listen to this guy read the label off my cough syrup bottle.
he's sleazy
@@annsmith3192 No.
I'm extremely biased. Never ever want Cardone to win at anything. Entitled bloated ego has gotten in the way of truth & honesty with business real estate dealings. I want the appeal to win!
you sound jealous. Cardone is a good guy you dont even know him nor ever met him so how can you say that?
@@stephenricci1888 I openly stated... extremely biased. Cons usually aren't "good guys"
@@stephenricci1888 How much were you paid to say such lies and propaganda. Cardone is a con man from the start.
@@stephenricci1888 yeah, he's such a good guy man. Lies constantly, rips people off for a living, but what a great guy.
I am very impressed with the judges, and the questions they asked.
It's overdue for Cardone (and some other well known "business men" to deal with the ramifications they deserve.
I have a feeling that these judges specialize in cases like these.
“Business people” please
Don’t be such a sexist 🤦🏻😂
Im sorry to say. But this case really seems like the perfect reason why a class of investors are identified as a non accredited investors based on their inability to handle investments financially or mentally. 🤷♂️
exactly .. not knowing that assesed value in many cities and counties are sometimes done infrequently on purpose or kept below actual value to keep the area attractive to homeowners/investors. I dont even like Cardone but even though his lawyer is less eloquent and shiny she was right about everything mostly.
Investments are not put options. The industry does have an obligation to disclose honestly and thoroughly and ensure understanding. However, if the education and disclosure is thorough and the investor proceeds and the downside is materialized the investor should not come back and sue. It is called a risk asset for a reason. The risk should be commensurate with expected return. It is not a treasury or cash.
Wow. Im seriously impressed by the intelligence of these 3 judges.
You think they got to be judges of one of the highest courts in the country by being unprepared and ignorant???
It's appeals so they've already read everything from the lower court. They do that so they can more clearly define the appeal points with the attorneys and see what the meat of arguments are.
@@joshcantrell8397 some unqualified judges were appointed by the 45th President, so it DOES happen.
@@PhoenixHinds 🤣😂
@@PhoenixHinds Who are they and how are they unqualified?
Appreciate what you do!
Aaron, you should really reach to one of the famous lawyer TH-camrs out there and discuss this case and the legal issues of grant Cardone in general! Some of them literally spend all their time reviewing famous legal cases that are currently happening or whatever legal topic is trending in the news. Plus you can have an overlap of subscribers between their audience and yours.
One of my favorite level TH-cam channels is called “Lawyer You Know” based in Florida.
@legaleagle would crush this!
@@BallonRouge420 yeah, it would be fun to see LegalEagle and Aaron go over the civil suit, as they have matching energy, and then get Glenn Kirschner on, if a criminal suit follows (if he has time, he's terribly busy with all the GOP stuff atm)
@@GoUkraina They both live in the same town. ( Peter Tragos)
@@Finkeldinken legal beagle is not a practicing attorney... the lower subscriber count PAs on TH-cam routinely make fun of and cringe at his takes on real trials because he has such little experience in them. AFAIK he is a law professor at Georgetown, and may not have ever tried a case in his life.
I’d be interested to see how this is ruled because if I’m not mistaken it’s one of the highest profile cases involving claims made on various social media outlets with regards to investing.
hehe. He's helping the "little guy" out of their money, it seems! Thanks for covering this and the Masterson and the other Scientology cases.
This is way above my pay grade
I love how often you post videos! I look every day for a new one. Ty for all your time you put in to make these for us 💞
Watch 21:18 - 23:15. My take is that Cardone lost right here. My prediction is the Pino wins and the Appeals Court finds the lower court erred in several key areas. Where Pino's counsel did very well was to say that these matters could be taken up in discovery. This is the essence of the matter as I see it: In dismissing Pino out of hand, the lower court did not allow the plaintiff to engage in discovery and thus denied Pino his right to a fair trial. There are legitimate triable issues. The lower court ignored these legitimate triable issues.
I'm still getting TH-cam ads for his workshops. One of many scammers allowed to advertise on this platform. People who really know how to make money don't tell others.
Thank you for this update and for all you share...✨🙏
Lmao when the attorney cited the tax assessor's opinion of value. Anyone in real estate knows that number is as accurate and useful as Zillow's.
I just hope Grants lawyers read the "The GC Rebuttal Manual" to handle any objections
Haters and Clickbaiters!
Grant identifies as an ambulance.
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Got on here just in time!
Sussman Godfrey, plaintiffs lawyer's law firm, is an absolute top tier law firm. Excellent, excellent lawyers.
It’s amazing I’m seeing this today. A couple of days ago, I stumbled upon his ad and signed up for his webinar, I listened for less than 5 minutes and checked out, there was something about it that threw me off. TH-cam should pull his ads.
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He had signed a deal with penguin so they had the publishing rights to all his upcoming books. So he named the next one a 'booklet', guys a loser with no morals it's all money money money.
Watching from Alaska Thanks for the updates 😊
to date no investors have lost any money in 16 years with cardone. CAse Closed
Pino’s lawyer is sharp!
Pino's lawyer is pretty effective.
I think it should be fairly easy to prove the “wealth management speeches” in question are actually upsell/solicitation events. That’s a very common practice in the industry regardless of its legality.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention! Very interesting. 👏👏👏👏👏
So, the issue is whether or not Cardones social media statements must be held to SEC standards.
After all, radio and TV communications are held to SEC standards.
The plaintiff's attorney is smooth as hot butterscotch!
WAY back in law school, I interned at the SEC. If the SEC makes a determination as to what can and cannot be said in a prospectus or advertising, the recipient ignores this at their own peril. The SEC LOOKS for high-profile cases to litigate. GC's self-admitted big mouth does not bode well with regard to a decision by the Commission to bring an action.
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It seems like this appeal could have future precedence import due to its implications on social media marketing and IG’s newest attempt to drive traffic toward advertising. Fascinating.
What happens to the suit if the appeals court finds in favor of the plaintiff? (1) Plaintiff now recieves damages. (2) New trial.
how on point is this lawyer!
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As I'm watching this clip a Grant Cardone commercial ad pops up
So none of these court cases address that Cardone inflated the property value and took the difference in to his pocket.
Sounds like Grant could be in big big trouble if he loses the civil case usually turns to criminal investigation
the guy suing him invested like $5,000 and was upset that he was only recieving a 4% every month. Joke case
@@eddycarpenter8989 4% is weak return! Im sure he is suing caused he was mislead that he should have received more than 4%
@@jacstoneu the case is a joke. And it’s hardly the “bombshell finding” this youtuber is claiming in his over sensationalized TH-cam headlines. As far as the 4% return. You sound like someone that doesn’t have any money invested anywhere
@@eddycarpenter8989 Hey Eddy sounds like you are paid by Scientology or Grant cardone
@@jacstoneu nope looking at the facts objectively. You should try it sometime.
why anyone would have anything to do with a narcissistic person is beyond me....
That was really hard to follow.
All 3 judge's engaged in questioning both attorneys.
Both attorneys are very good.
Looks like some shady stuff is going on. That building he bought for way over market value is very suspicious.
I wouldn't want to be a defendant in that court. I have a hard time will 1 judge, he's got 3. For someone who can predict the future, he didn't see this one coming. Hope to see more of this circus.
It's a tactic. Cardone buys the property himself first. Then, he sells it to his own Fund at a much higner price. He is on both sides of the fence. Extreme capitalism games.
@@newmarketingorder1313 If it is disclosed there is nothing illegal...maybe unethical.
I literally had a Grant Cardone ad before this
I hope Grant gets exactly what he deserves and that justice is fairly served…
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The good ol LLC shielding any personal responsibility through insurance. Gotta love it!
The big problem is that Cardone Capital investors are usually not qualified investors, so their investors do get their info from social media-- not from boilerplate legal language.
damnnn only 4.5% IRR thats trash!
I didn’t know Cardone is a Scientologist 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Having Cardone ads right before the Cardone specific videos isn't some massive coincidence right? It's his pathetic attempt at "showing you up"?
Just the algorithms getting it wrong!
Hey A-A-Ron! Thanks for sharing this! Always love seeing your videos, even recently went back to older ones as well. I really like the judges in this. At first I thought they may be more pro Cardone but they were very fair on both ends. Really questioning trying to grill both lawyers on their case. I truly hope this appeal gets approved and Cardone gets punished for his fraudulent ways (and eventually Scientology)
Property investment is a crapshoot. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
This was fascinating. Thank you Aaron.
The judges were hanging on every word by Mr. Pino's lawyer . The judges were probative with there questions and let the lawyers define snd interpret certain sections of the law and case precedents . The judges were gauging the lawyers the understanding of the law and how they applied the law to their arguements . The judges at one point the judge had to challenge Mr. Cardone's lawyer , holding her feet to the fire . I think the court is going to rule in favor of the plaintiff !
is this the same 9th circuit court that spent 4 years exercising TDS?
If someone guarantees you a certain rate of return that screams fraud. No one can guarantee you how the market is going to perform. How these investors fall for this I will never know
In all fairness, he wanted to blame you for the lawsuit, but he’s not allowed to name you… edit to add 😂😉
a properties value can be way more than the tax assessment the tax assessment has nothing to do with it's worth
Oye I would not want to have to present in front of those judges. Amazing both lawyers were able to keep their cool.
Yikes, looks like Grant’s got some issues. That’s what happens when a used car sales trainer gets the keys to castle. Buyer beware
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Aaron, you have very good videos on these creeps.
Thank you
Don’t forget to 👍🏽
Ooh I was just about to go to sleep but then saw this video and was so quick to click!!! Gonna be up past my bedtime🤣
I love this channel and it just keeps getting better and better
Need LegalEagle on this!
Nope... you realize how little experience he has? He has zero federal... which is not uncommon, but you don't see those lacking experience talking so loudly or frequently.
Honestly there is nothing in there. I think anyone could try to attack any syndication the same way.
The plaintiffs attorney rocked the other attorney didn't really hold her own!!!
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You know what it seems like? It seems like Grant Cardone came up with this real estate scam, and then built an investment fund around it. So much of the offering seems like it was made to sound legit. I think Pino figured that out.
you know what it seems like it seems like dave has nothing and is jealous of grant cadone that what it seems like
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Sounds like someone is offended for Cardone getting called out on his shameless practices…
Hopefully you’ll figure it out one day.
At least I can spell Cardone....and I'm not getting sued...
To be fair ambulance chasers tend to seek out genuine victims whether they're good attorneys or not. So is Cardone acknowledging they're his VICTIMS?
Thank you for doing this! I look forward to the day that Miscavage is in prison and this cult collapses.
I am inthralled with your videos! I hope no one else joins and you are validated in your hard work.
Yeah you don’t need money when you steal From others and lie to the people coming into your company. Why on earth would you need money when you’re so busy stealing it. SMH
Tax valuation is not market valuation. If it was then banks would never have to hire appraisers to very value for loans. Doesn't look good for Pinot even thought Cardone is clearly not one to trust.
I just want CC LLC to go down.
You don’t wanna mess with THE DONESTER. He’s got a HUGE MOUTH and he’s here for the LITTLE GUY.
Thank you for sharing :-)
This seems like a classic case of throwing the baby out with the bath water by the district court. But appeals are notoriously hard to win. No judge wants to overrule another. We’ll see.
Does it matter who seems more compelling or what’s in the judge’s head? It matters what the law says.
There was a grant ad right before this video. Wanted to let you know.
Thanks
who the hell reads those disclosure statements? No one can understand them!
Rarely do I root for the gov’t but if they bring him down and Scientology , that would be a HUGE win for the world
Ppl like grant do not go to jail
His fund is doing like they all are right now. It's in the tank and like everyone else, I've been trying to get back to cash in hand. Not going well so far. Bear markets hurt.
being investigated does not mean you are convicted.
Oooo feet in the fire!
Hey!! Its A-Aron!! Lol great video sir keep up the gd work!!
Thank you
Alyte from Legal Bytes, where you were just a guest, could break this down to help us see the legality of this argument. Aaron, you can fill in how Scientology is twisting law to meet their desires.
You and Alyte make a great team to address Scientology and their legal foibles.
Good idea!
@@GrowingUpInScientology Alyte would totally come on. That is how “ Law-tube” supports each other. 😊. I’m glad that you were her guest. She is awesome.
Great work as usual
Thanks A-A-RON! So I finally watched episode 7 of season 1 of Scientology and the Aftermath.
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Thanks for sharing your story, for helping people leave the 'church,' and for your up-to-date content. I really wanted you to win the Clearwater city council position. Questions :
Did you say that Scientology supported Trump with their fair game tactics?
Did you say that you have upcoming content about Elizabeth Moss?
Thanks again for your story and I am so sorry that you went through all that.
Amber
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Coming soon to an American Greed near you: Grant Cardone
Very excellent brief indeed!!!!
I still think that just because he has videos and Instagram, that should still be considered advertising, because someone sees that they don't just mail him money, they go through a broker. He needs to be held responsible at least for the shit he spews! Thanks Aaron!
Glad judges asked good questions...what a mental gymnastics: overall emperor has no clothes
Glad you are putting these out there
I’m relatively new to your videos and have been enjoying them. Do you have a video where you talk about your backstory , history in Scientology, etc?
Netflix. Season 1. Episode 7. Scientology and the Aftermath.
Fascinating to someone like myself who loves legal mumbo jumbo!!!