Good point! Toxic is still toxic no matter what label you put on it. Better to stay clear of them anyway if they arent treating you the way you want to.
I'm so glad you did this video. It's so exhausting when "narc" is all that is seen and heard.. sometimes they're just an ass. Love ya, keep it up Jess! 😊
I'm beginning to think my ex suffers from bipolar disorder, which does resemble narcissism. He even tried to project this onto me, telling people I was bipolar. He's never been officially diagnosed, but his mother was a diagnosed schizophrenic. I pray for his healing. 🙏
Hi. While it's true that not all jerks are narcissistic, some are. I thought I was literally going crazy until one day I stumbled upon an article about narcissism. It was like the weight of the world was lifted off my shoulders. Yes, I watch all the videos about the subject because my husband checks every single box. Since I've learned some coping strategies, I've been able to curve many of his behaviors and diffuse a lot of conflict. Just knowing what I was dealing with changed everything. Sadly, most narcissistic people are never diagnosed as they would never admit fault within themselves. Thanks.
I’ve realized that my son and DIL may not be Narcs, but they’re disrespectful, invalidating, and lacking in empathy. They use the grandkids as weapons. They treat me like garbage and I honestly don’t need it in my life anymore.
This is exactly why so few psychologists will now tell you they prefer not to label anymore and prefer to work at changing the behavior rather than the disorder. Without extensive testing by a neuropsychologist....too many many disorders that to closely mimic one another. I was recently diagnosed as being in the autism spectrum and it took one psychologist to flat out tell me...I suspect but if you truly and 100% wish to know, change, etc...time to see a neuropsychologist. Which is what I did, after years of seeing a mere psychologist. Worth every penny spent...BTW. 😊 All that said; trying to have a healthy, happy, normal relationship with an unhealthy person with highly and/or toxic behaviors or addictions will not work and will hurt you in the long run. Unless that person is willing to change and get the professional help, they need...nothing left to do but wish them well and hope that one day they get the help they need. Wayyyyy above people's pay grade or skill to try to stick around and try to fix them or change them. That.....that is between them, a true neuropsychologist, and God (or whatever you wish to call it...soul, spirt, God, universe).
Thank you for this video! I used to suspect my ex was a narcissist. I used to watch dozens of videos on narcissism to see if I could self diagnose him. Turns out years later I find out he has Asperger's! I used to do the same with another friend of mine, but he had BPD. This is the first time I ever heard anyone say it might not be narcissism but might be something altogether different!
Did you see the papers on his diagnose? Also, Asperger isn't even the diagnose anymore. It's Autism Spectrum Disorder. And lastly, as an autist myself with pretty much exclusively autistic friends, none of us are assholes. My friends are the most empathic people I've come across. Like, I could maybe understand thinking an autist is narcissism when you don't know the person much, or upon first meeting them. Since we are not good at social cues, but when you get to know them it's easy to see they're very kind people. 😅 After all, it's lack of empathy and entitlement that's signs of narcissism, not social akwardness. 😅
I’m glad you are bringing this to light because I do think some ppl OD on this word simply because they don’t like someone. Very wise words and thanks for the information.
I realized my parent was on the spectrum when I noticed I was resorting to the same tactics to keep their garbage to a minimum on a friend who years later after constant mental gymnastics revealed themselves with a diagnosis as a borderline, now I can't seem to get away from either. What sucks is the more traction I see on this topic now a days the harder it is to communicate the issues at hand... the internet has had an insane ability to "buzzwordify" water down and destroy terminology that would be best used by people who are actually having to deal with people like this.
Thank you, Jess, for enlightening us…that bad behavior is not necessarily the consequence of NPD, although there seems to be an epidemic of terrible behavior by the habitants on this planet…thank you for continuing to give us the guidance necessary to live our lives during these difficult times….💞
There's just so many disorders out now days,we just have to really listen to our intuition and just kinda stay grey rock, but if there toxic cut then loose ASAP,👍 thanks for the video Jess 🦋
My Nex was definitely a Narc. Had all 9 characteristics, followed the precise traits of a narcissistic relationship, my therapists said it was 99.9% sure without a formal diagnoses. But I digress…she is gone forever and she can rot in hell.
Thank you sooooooo much for this Jess!! The truth of everything you just said resonated with me 100%. I have tears of happiness in my eyes right now. I pray that you are blessed for all the good thing's you put out there for so many of us. Sooooo much love and respect to you for this!!! This nails it and is soooo liberating! Did I use sooooo enough lol? Again thank you so very much.💗🙏
It's not hard to look at others and notice they are full of themselves. I just can notice I don't mean it's everyone but in this materialistic world there's quite a few. I'm depressed and I don't have the telltale signs I guess or maybe I really am bipolar. Because I just negate things in my mind some people including myself at times are living for that that is superficial. I can just tell the people around I'm in a big city and I sort of notice dynamics. Whether the college students, those are blaringly obvious, the art types, the drugs, the gang affiliated... life doesn't have to be so narrow that is depressing! Why is being kind of alone (kind of not) so bad? What I mean by that is individualistic. But I digress because I definitely don't want others to follow my path I don't mean that. And also being kinda alone can set some people up for narcissists- if not already these subgroups are built on dysfunction but I digress being overly critical. Unless it's drugs. And that I can actually relate to having been a heavy drinker. I also have taken a lot of pills. Mental health isn't just mental health it can be a battle. I'm not just a survivor I'm a person and sometimes my flight of fight instincts are about to kick in and I have to remind myself how I was "before" when I was withdrawn and docile. Which really was when I didn't draw any attention at all. But I'll keep it short on that since I'm being gangstalked now which is obviously something completely different than what I've ever encountered before. I never had to live in a battle or war like state within myseld before and it's hard. It's because other people are like this too and I'm dragged down in the dirt and mud and feces. I always so NO noooo they can't be. Jealous? Noooo. Envious? Nooo Lately or at least a couple times recently I went against my own inclincation even and said a few people I was referring to in a conversation are envious. I don't like that. It's always a tight rope balancing act and I have to be. It's not a way to live it's not something I ever imagined not like this! I wouldn't wish this to happen to anyone
I mean, all cluster b personality disorders have narcissism in them. So it's the same shit just different, or even worse in the case of ASPD, behaviour. But yeah if someone is an asshole to you, and don't want to get help to better themself, fuck them. 😂
Good point! Toxic is still toxic no matter what label you put on it. Better to stay clear of them anyway if they arent treating you the way you want to.
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a narcissist.
I'm so glad you did this video. It's so exhausting when "narc" is all that is seen and heard.. sometimes they're just an ass. Love ya, keep it up Jess! 😊
What difference does it make, the end result is the same!
Exactly!
I'm beginning to think my ex suffers from bipolar disorder, which does resemble narcissism. He even tried to project this onto me, telling people I was bipolar. He's never been officially diagnosed, but his mother was a diagnosed schizophrenic. I pray for his healing. 🙏
Hi. While it's true that not all jerks are narcissistic, some are. I thought I was literally going crazy until one day I stumbled upon an article about narcissism. It was like the weight of the world was lifted off my shoulders. Yes, I watch all the videos about the subject because my husband checks every single box. Since I've learned some coping strategies, I've been able to curve many of his behaviors and diffuse a lot of conflict. Just knowing what I was dealing with changed everything. Sadly, most narcissistic people are never diagnosed as they would never admit fault within themselves. Thanks.
I’ve realized that my son and DIL may not be Narcs, but they’re disrespectful, invalidating, and lacking in empathy. They use the grandkids as weapons. They treat me like garbage and I honestly don’t need it in my life anymore.
This is exactly why so few psychologists will now tell you they prefer not to label anymore and prefer to work at changing the behavior rather than the disorder. Without extensive testing by a neuropsychologist....too many many disorders that to closely mimic one another.
I was recently diagnosed as being in the autism spectrum and it took one psychologist to flat out tell me...I suspect but if you truly and 100% wish to know, change, etc...time to see a neuropsychologist. Which is what I did, after years of seeing a mere psychologist. Worth every penny spent...BTW. 😊
All that said; trying to have a healthy, happy, normal relationship with an unhealthy person with highly and/or toxic behaviors or addictions will not work and will hurt you in the long run.
Unless that person is willing to change and get the professional help, they need...nothing left to do but wish them well and hope that one day they get the help they need. Wayyyyy above people's pay grade or skill to try to stick around and try to fix them or change them.
That.....that is between them, a true neuropsychologist, and God (or whatever you wish to call it...soul, spirt, God, universe).
Narc or not there definitely TOXIC!
Yes! So it doesn't matter which disorder, it is still toxic behaviors.
Thank you for this video! I used to suspect my ex was a narcissist. I used to watch dozens of videos on narcissism to see if I could self diagnose him. Turns out years later I find out he has Asperger's! I used to do the same with another friend of mine, but he had BPD.
This is the first time I ever heard anyone say it might not be narcissism but might be something altogether different!
Did you see the papers on his diagnose? Also, Asperger isn't even the diagnose anymore. It's Autism Spectrum Disorder.
And lastly, as an autist myself with pretty much exclusively autistic friends, none of us are assholes. My friends are the most empathic people I've come across.
Like, I could maybe understand thinking an autist is narcissism when you don't know the person much, or upon first meeting them. Since we are not good at social cues, but when you get to know them it's easy to see they're very kind people. 😅
After all, it's lack of empathy and entitlement that's signs of narcissism, not social akwardness. 😅
I’m glad you are bringing this to light because I do think some ppl OD on this word simply because they don’t like someone. Very wise words and thanks for the information.
I realized my parent was on the spectrum when I noticed I was resorting to the same tactics to keep their garbage to a minimum on a friend who years later after constant mental gymnastics revealed themselves with a diagnosis as a borderline, now I can't seem to get away from either.
What sucks is the more traction I see on this topic now a days the harder it is to communicate the issues at hand... the internet has had an insane ability to "buzzwordify" water down and destroy terminology that would be best used by people who are actually having to deal with people like this.
Thank you, Jess, for enlightening us…that bad behavior is not necessarily the consequence of NPD, although there seems to be an epidemic of terrible behavior by the habitants on this planet…thank you for continuing to give us the guidance necessary to live our lives during these difficult times….💞
Yeah, that might have been your best video I 've watched, thank you.
There's just so many disorders out now days,we just have to really listen to our intuition and just kinda stay grey rock, but if there toxic cut then loose ASAP,👍 thanks for the video Jess 🦋
They're**
( 😂I'm actually autistic and adhd and people mistake me for npd or bpd all the time)
My Nex was definitely a Narc. Had all 9 characteristics, followed the precise traits of a narcissistic relationship, my therapists said it was 99.9% sure without a formal diagnoses. But I digress…she is gone forever and she can rot in hell.
Like a narc is really gonna tell the truth when it’s time to get tested for ANYTHING
Thank you sooooooo much for this Jess!! The truth of everything you just said resonated with me 100%. I have tears of happiness in my eyes right now. I pray that you are blessed for all the good thing's you put out there for so many of us. Sooooo much love and respect to you for this!!! This nails it and is soooo liberating! Did I use sooooo enough lol? Again thank you so very much.💗🙏
Thank You!!!
Thank you for this message because I was struggling trying to find a diagnosis in order for me to feel ok leaving my ex thank u
We are all running on dopamine.... Selling dopamine. 😆
Definitely mines is cluster
bulemia. the rest I dont know. It destroyed me.
Bipolar type 1 is more treatable than type 2. I knew 2 persons with those numbers, unfortunately the type 2 person committed suicide.
It's not hard to look at others and notice they are full of themselves. I just can notice I don't mean it's everyone but in this materialistic world there's quite a few.
I'm depressed and I don't have the telltale signs I guess or maybe I really am bipolar. Because I just negate things in my mind some people including myself at times are living for that that is superficial. I can just tell the people around I'm in a big city and I sort of notice dynamics. Whether the college students, those are blaringly obvious, the art types, the drugs, the gang affiliated... life doesn't have to be so narrow that is depressing! Why is being kind of alone (kind of not) so bad? What I mean by that is individualistic.
But I digress because I definitely don't want others to follow my path I don't mean that. And also being kinda alone can set some people up for narcissists- if not already these subgroups are built on dysfunction but I digress being overly critical. Unless it's drugs. And that I can actually relate to having been a heavy drinker. I also have taken a lot of pills. Mental health isn't just mental health it can be a battle.
I'm not just a survivor I'm a person and sometimes my flight of fight instincts are about to kick in and I have to remind myself how I was "before" when I was withdrawn and docile. Which really was when I didn't draw any attention at all. But I'll keep it short on that since I'm being gangstalked now which is obviously something completely different than what I've ever encountered before.
I never had to live in a battle or war like state within myseld before and it's hard. It's because other people are like this too and I'm dragged down in the dirt and mud and feces. I always so NO noooo they can't be. Jealous? Noooo. Envious? Nooo
Lately or at least a couple times recently I went against my own inclincation even and said a few people I was referring to in a conversation are envious. I don't like that.
It's always a tight rope balancing act and I have to be. It's not a way to live it's not something I ever imagined not like this! I wouldn't wish this to happen to anyone
Jess you are gorgeous ❤❤❤❤❤
I mean, all cluster b personality disorders have narcissism in them. So it's the same shit just different, or even worse in the case of ASPD, behaviour.
But yeah if someone is an asshole to you, and don't want to get help to better themself, fuck them. 😂
You are so wrong. You don't get it.