I needed to get my extension ladder up off the garage floor to free up some space. Easiest thing to do was rig up a couple of block and tackle systems using old pulleys and hang it from the ceiling.
Great video Matt! Fasten an eye bolt to the center of 2 2x4's approx. 16" long, positioned under the ladder directly below the pulleys. Connect to the eye bolt and lift your ladder; no welding needed!
thanks for sharing Matt, good tips on the pulleys and advantages of having them in place. I will put some around on my father's house as well, he has a lot of heavy duty tools and ladders inside his garage
Hey Matt, You could take a 2 x 4 a little longer than the ladder is wide and drill a hole in the center and attach a short loop of rope or a short piece of chain to it and then place it in between the two rungs of the ladder near the ends. This will give you a shorter attachment point. No welding needed! This is how I hang all my ladders from the ceiling.
when you wrapped the rope around the ladder, if you wrapped it the opposite way so the two ends come from under the ladder, not over the top, you will gain about 6", thus getting your ladder 6" closer to the ceiling.
What I did was put a couple 9 in. x 11 in. Large Storage Hooks from Home Depot on one side (11 bucks). Then you just hook the one end of the ladder on the hooks and then you just have to pull up the other side. Much easier for one person.
I may have missed it but I'm guessing you pulled BOTH the pulley ropes at the same time? Good video. Haven't seen a large steel I beam in a garage in a long time (lucky guy). Nice to have in case you want to use block and tackle to pull an engine!
I am missing a whole giant piece of the solution here. At first you showed how to set up the block and tackle for one side so that when you pull it it would lift that side. Then you must have done the same thing on the other side so that you can pull and list the other side. So far so good. But then somehow you magically pulled a rope all the way at the end and it lifted both sides! how did you do that? This seems like the most important part of the solution because without it youl would have had to lift one side at a time.
@@TonyWesley It could have been rigged with a single rope. But I can't see the need to find a ceiling joist because that huge I-beam could easily be rigged to pull up and secure the ladder.
I love the video. Ive been trying with 4 separate pulleys- thi sis better-But it looks like you have two sets. Am I right? If so are theretwo ropes coming from your pull end?
Well Matt. Do you think you coulda' explained how the two sets of pullies (at the two attachment points on te ladder and the ceiling) were connected? Huh?
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I don't need a block and tackle to do this any more. I simply lift one end of the ladder up and then put the 2 x 4 in between the correct rungs. While this end is being supported I can then go and lift the other end up and put the 2 x 4 in between that end. If your ceiling is too high you may need to use a ladder.
I agree, I've done the same in the past. But then you cover it up with other stuff, so you still have to move things out of the way to get to it. And for me, at times, I was reaching over things to get it off. And my ladder was smaller. A 32' ladder I assume would be heavier than my old 20' ladder. I like lifting up, but then I won't sleep, as I just know that someday, it will come crashing down on my car. But your idea is good too. His garage looked huge compared to what I'm used to. :(
+Gefa Duro It's not magic. It works using the same principle that gears use. You apply a lighter force over a longer distance, and a block/tackle arrangement presents it as a higher force, but over a shorter distance.
The force exerted is consistent along the length of the rope. That's the "no magic" part. If you pull with 10 pounds of force on the end of the rope, then there's 10 pounds of force available everywhere along the rope. The fact that there are 4 strands of rope between the pulleys is why the load experiences (in this example) 40 lbs of force. But of course, it only moves 1/4 of the distance. Elementary school was a long time ago, but last I check turning 10 into 40 by applying it 4X is multiplication. If you want to stay invested in the word divide then fine. The load is divided across the 4 strands between the pulleys.
Nothing get's heavier. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I said that. What I said is that whatever the ladder weighs, you only have to pull on the rope with 1/4 of that force in order to get the ladder to go up. In other words, you can lift 4X as much weight as however hard you can pull. Now again, it's not magic. The trade off is that you have to pull 4X as much rope to get the ladder to go up the same height. Work is the product of force and distance, and it's work that's conserved in this equation. Here's a good article that explains what I'm trying to say: science.howstuffworks.com/transport/engines-equipment/pulley.htm
$400 ladder versus a $60,000 car and $25,000 car. Do I want to do this? I think I will leave it out in the backyard for now. Who cares what the neighbors and wife think!!!! Right? I still like the idea. I just can't bring myself to play Russian roulette with my cars.
Great explanation of the pulley system and force. Very easy to follow, and very useful information! Thanks Matt!
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Really well put together video. Enjoyed it. Thanks!
Great video Matt! Fasten an eye bolt to the center of 2 2x4's approx. 16" long, positioned under the ladder directly below the pulleys. Connect to the eye bolt and lift your ladder; no welding needed!
thanks for sharing Matt, good tips on the pulleys and advantages of having them in place. I will put some around on my father's house as well, he has a lot of heavy duty tools and ladders inside his garage
Thanks Ruben Castillo! The saying is that "Necessity is the mother of invention." In my case, I'm pretty sure it's laziness :)
Thanks for sharing!!! Love your projects!! Challenges me to get mine done. Keep SHARING!!
Thanks! That's kind of funny because I started this to motivate myself to get stuff done :)
“Matt Heere here” is how I would start all of your videos.
Hey Matt, You could take a 2 x 4 a little longer than the ladder is wide and drill a hole in the center and attach a short loop of rope or a short piece of chain to it and then place it in between the two rungs of the ladder near the ends. This will give you a shorter attachment point. No welding needed! This is how I hang all my ladders from the ceiling.
when you wrapped the rope around the ladder, if you wrapped it the opposite way so the two ends come from under the ladder, not over the top, you will gain about 6", thus getting your ladder 6" closer to the ceiling.
What I did was put a couple 9 in. x 11 in. Large Storage Hooks from Home Depot on one side (11 bucks). Then you just hook the one end of the ladder on the hooks and then you just have to pull up the other side. Much easier for one person.
I don’t know much about pulleys, so the missing chunk in between how the two block and tackles get connected is throwing me off
I always wondered what Phil Mitchell was getting up to.
I may have missed it but I'm guessing you pulled BOTH the pulley ropes at the same time? Good video. Haven't seen a large steel I beam in a garage in a long time (lucky guy). Nice to have in case you want to use block and tackle to pull an engine!
Yep, both at once. If someone were really short on arm strength you could alternate them one pull at a time, but as is it doesn't take a lot of force.
I was thinking the same thing. Wow, what a feature!!! But then everyone in the neighborhood will want to use it ;)
I am missing a whole giant piece of the solution here. At first you showed how to set up the block and tackle for one side so that when you pull it it would lift that side. Then you must have done the same thing on the other side so that you can pull and list the other side. So far so good. But then somehow you magically pulled a rope all the way at the end and it lifted both sides! how did you do that? This seems like the most important part of the solution because without it youl would have had to lift one side at a time.
He's pulling two ropes, one for each block and tackle.
Tony Wesley Thanks - I had the same question
@@TonyWesley It could have been rigged with a single rope. But I can't see the need to find a ceiling joist because that huge I-beam could easily be rigged to pull up and secure the ladder.
Does anyone know how to do this with single rope?
How did you run the pull rope from the distant pulley to where you are pulling both ropes? Seems like that was a major detail left out of the video.
I love the video. Ive been trying with 4 separate pulleys- thi sis better-But it looks like you have two sets. Am I right? If so are theretwo ropes coming from your pull end?
There are. The setup is essentially a separate block-and-tackle pully mechanism for each end of the ladder.
Well Matt. Do you think you coulda' explained how the two sets of pullies (at the two attachment points on te ladder and the ceiling) were connected? Huh?
could you show a picture from the other side thanks
"Overkill" is a good term.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I don't need a block and tackle to do this any more. I simply lift one end of the ladder up and then put the 2 x 4 in between the correct rungs. While this end is being supported I can then go and lift the other end up and put the 2 x 4 in between that end. If your ceiling is too high you may need to use a ladder.
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And you are sure it will not fall on you? Good way to get it out of the way though assuming the rope will hold. Safety Safety Safety is my motto.
That ladder going up reminds me of a window washer's platform on a sky scraper.
With all that empty space on the walls you could have just hung it down the side of a wall with just two hooks.
I agree, I've done the same in the past. But then you cover it up with other stuff, so you still have to move things out of the way to get to it. And for me, at times, I was reaching over things to get it off. And my ladder was smaller. A 32' ladder I assume would be heavier than my old 20' ladder. I like lifting up, but then I won't sleep, as I just know that someday, it will come crashing down on my car. But your idea is good too. His garage looked huge compared to what I'm used to. :(
It multiplies the force you're putting on the rope? Yeah? The ladder suddenly became 4 times heavier? Lol
+Gefa Duro It's not magic. It works using the same principle that gears use. You apply a lighter force over a longer distance, and a block/tackle arrangement presents it as a higher force, but over a shorter distance.
Dude it DIVIDES the force...that's the word you were looking for :)
The force exerted is consistent along the length of the rope. That's the "no magic" part. If you pull with 10 pounds of force on the end of the rope, then there's 10 pounds of force available everywhere along the rope.
The fact that there are 4 strands of rope between the pulleys is why the load experiences (in this example) 40 lbs of force. But of course, it only moves 1/4 of the distance.
Elementary school was a long time ago, but last I check turning 10 into 40 by applying it 4X is multiplication.
If you want to stay invested in the word divide then fine. The load is divided across the 4 strands between the pulleys.
How could it become 4 times heavier? It's simply not the case.
Nothing get's heavier. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I said that. What I said is that whatever the ladder weighs, you only have to pull on the rope with 1/4 of that force in order to get the ladder to go up. In other words, you can lift 4X as much weight as however hard you can pull.
Now again, it's not magic. The trade off is that you have to pull 4X as much rope to get the ladder to go up the same height. Work is the product of force and distance, and it's work that's conserved in this equation.
Here's a good article that explains what I'm trying to say:
science.howstuffworks.com/transport/engines-equipment/pulley.htm
lmfao the ladder isn't that heavy foe HD rope... the pencil pusher better work out more with HEAVY weights lol
It's not the weight, it's the combination of 10 foot ceilings and that the garage is normally full of kid crap and a boat.
Paint that nasty door.
LOL. I left it like that because it was due for replacement (which is since done!).
$400 ladder versus a $60,000 car and $25,000 car. Do I want to do this? I think I will leave it out in the backyard for now. Who cares what the neighbors and wife think!!!! Right? I still like the idea. I just can't bring myself to play Russian roulette with my cars.