Jim Cornette on Dick Murdoch
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ต.ค. 2024
- From Episode 217 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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The Murdoch/Adonis team is criminally underrated and were a world class tag team.
I agree. As great as Murdoch was, Adonis was even better IMO.
@@gregorykrug8034 I'd agree on that
@@gregorykrug8034
Adonis was even BETTER as a team with Ventura in the AWA.
East/West Connection
I thought Murdoch was good I thought the older fat Adonis was the shits compared to his younger days. I liked Murdoch and Slater much better.
@@tazzhardwick1316 Adonis definitely let himself go, but he wasn't a clumsy, lazy fat guy who got gassed after five minutes. His WM3 match against Piper, for example, showed that he was one of the better workers on the card, even with his increased size.
Dick Murdoch & Dick Slater were so good. I wish I got to see them in the early 80's.
Lol I just said the same thing
Listening to Jim recalling wrestling events, matches & wrestlers from the territory days is like stepping into a time machine. You feel like you’re there, I can almost hear the crowd….. the bumps… the bell….the commentators. I can almost smell the popcorn, tast the stale flat beer from the concession stand. I can almost smell the hallway to the gymnasium or convention center littered with programs, popcorn, pretzels, cigarette butts & beer cups. If I were to chase my dream & become a pro wrestler I’d much rather break in during the territory days over todays …. Whatever the fuck you call this nonsense… Even though the guaranteed contracts are unbelievable today & they get chauferred or flown by private jet to events, I would much rather travel up & down the road with the boys hearing stories, learning from the Veterans & getting ribbed along with the other greenhorns. I think those days the art of pro wrestling & kayfabe was more important back then. I just think it was more respected & revered then. Thank You Jim
Yes. Nice description.
Your comment covered all the bases. Well said.♥️
Agree...very descriptive details! I enjoy Jimmy C's interviews. He knows talent. He's humorous, too!
Hes the best at retelling the stories. I believe its because of all the notes he took while he was in the business. He's got Notebooks full of notes and thoughts and memories.
Did you ever watch Tales from the Territories
That promo where Murdoch is drinking beer shirtless in what looks like a blizzard is pretty crazy. I'm not sure I've ever seen anything quite like it.
love listening to how the way wrestling was in the old days and how descriptive Jim gets and his detail of prior events!
YESSSS!!!! HIS MEMORY IS INCREDIBLE!!!
I can't even remember my lunch from last week!
Wrestling was amazing at that time compared to this awful theatrical performance they push now. I was lucky enough to see almost all the big name wrestlers then when most were in their prime or early in their career.
I went to the very same high school as Dick. He was a legend. My first paying job was when I was a senior in high school. I was introduced to Murdoch at the local bowling alley were I worked, He was my favorite wrestler in a small town that had many big time wrestlers (The Funk's, The Romero's, The DiBiase Ted's stepdad was "Iron Mike" DiBiase who died in the ring in Lubbock, the Funk's took Ted in and he went to the college and played football and wrestled at West Texas State University, Where a lot of wrestlers played ball and wrestled Black Jack Mulligan, Bobby Duncum, both Funk's, Dick And Virgil Runnels Jr./Dusty Rhodes who was Dick's tag team partner for many years called the Texas Outlaw's) After I joined the Army, I asked Murdoch when i get home, I'd like to be trained by him, and be a pro wrestler. He put down his beer, said "son, sure I'll teach you, the best i can. As a matter of fact, I'll tell You right now, I'll be your very first match. And son I'll promise you this, I'll whip Your ass so bad you'll never get in the ring again. It's no life for a single man, find a girl and settle down and have a family". I loved that guy!
I was associates with one of his sons in who grew up in Grapevine. Murdoch was never around and so his now adult (mid 40s) son has no love lost over him. However, my dad played ball with DiBiase and the guys that graduated with that Era at West Texas State. The funks, Goodich, Stan Hansen. My granny worked the library on campus til she retired. My Pappy was a pastor there in Pampa and Borger. My Uncle was born in Borger. My cousins lived in Floydada. Lots of kingoke and history for us in the panhandle
Couple Corrections on Corny's comments... Dickie already had the Coors rep job when he was in Texas he then came up to Walsenburg Colorado bought a little bar that had a studio apartment above it. He was hauling hay from the valley there to West Texas because they were having a drought and he was making big Bank. We wrestled each other for another promotion in Alamosa Colorado it was our first time to meet. He made me look like a million dollars that night! He started promoting his own shows and packed the house in small towns, first brought in Colonel De Beers to work with... they had some of the best old-school matches you would ever see 👍 I got over big time heeling... the next bunch of shows it was him and I tearing it up! He pocketed having to pay another big-name to come! Yep dick was slick slyer than a fox... and truly one of the best talents ever in history! 😇😂 Thank you Dick all my respect 🙏🔓
Awesome, thanks for sharing. I'd love to hear more of your stories.
Didn't he and Dusty already have property up in Colorado from back in the 70s?
@@anthonymartin9923 not sure on that... I'm sure they invested in some barley fields! 😁
@@gravitywaves2796 I've got more stories than the Empire State Building! 😁
Dick Murdoch is criminally underrated. He is known for being a brawler, and rightfully so, but he could and actually did wrestle, and he was surprisingly good. I miss him.
@Fur Q - prove it. How about some evidence instead of baseless claims.
@Fur Q - That’s called hearsay. Look it up. Wikipedia cites hearsay. It doesn’t cite evidence, like a quoted, recorded admission, or a documented list of names of members. You should be mindful about what other people say about their peers, friends, acquaintances, associates, etc. One day you could yourself unjustly characterized in a manner that is less than flattering. Thinking rationally, before you spew out garbage is something you may want to practice.
@Fur Q He was not a KKK member. He did a rib in Georgia when he and Tommy Rich sent Tony Atlas to a KKK meeting. Tony Atlas never got over the rib and the story just grew from there behind the scenes in wrestling. The rib was stupid and a horrible thing to do, but it happened. Later on, Dusty Rhodes took the Tony Atlas story and made it about himself rather than Tony Atlas.
Its like the story of Randy Savage doing Steph McMahon. It never happened, but every wrestler who is told the story suddenly remembers that it happened.
@@Jim-Tuner he was a racist
@@Jim-Tuner defend this white trash all you want Jim Ross atlas tito Santana and countless others claim to have eve seen his Kkk card
Dickie in his prime would brain buster half of the AEW and WWE roster today
Incredible and sad that Murdoch was only 49 when he died. One of the greats.
@@KHLB516 : Any actual evidence that he was a "klansman" like Robert Byrd? Sounds like it was all hearsay and wrestling lore. Just like he "attended" West Texas State. Both appear to be apocryphal.
I pretty sure the reason for the KKK accusations is because Dusty told a story once about Murdoch taking him to a klan rally without Dusty being aware where they were going.
Throw in the accusations from the guys like Rocky Johnson, Tito Santana, and Bad News Brown.
@@scrappy93 and how much of that is bullshit
@@scrappy93 those accusations were true. Every black wrestler admitted to him being a card carrier. It takes nothing away from his wrestling I get that, but KKK not cool.
@@scrappy93 and tony Atlas
@@chrischar9428 so you think it's all a lie right?😒 just day you dont give a sh** without literally saying so
Adonis n Murdoch was damn good tag team damn good
Brian is spot on about the August 84 match with Afa, it’s awesome . It’s a testament to Murdoch’s greatness.
The idea of Jim Cornette getting invited to a klan rally and going ham on them with his loaded tennis racket is a pleasant mental image.
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Id rather do a Rittenhouse on blm
Tony Atlas has stories of traveling with Murdock, specifically where he tricked Tony and gave him directions to a Klan rally.
@@jvinson he did the same thing to Dusty Rhodes :(
@@SeamHead33 what's cry like a little baby?
Had Murdoch of lived, it would've been interesting to here him do a shoot interview or something like that on youtube. Bet it would've been GOLD! Just saying.
Murdoch was a big man with a pot belly and buggy whip arms, he reallu looked tiny next to Andre, I always loved seeing him being abused by the giant 😂😂
Murdoch as a Heel against DiBiase in 85/86 then as a Heel against Dusty in 87 was great.
Dick Murdoch had a lot of natural ability, but he always looked decades older than his actual age. I was surprised to discover that he was only 48 at Royal Rumble ‘95. He looked like he was in his 70s. I thought: “Who in the hell let this elderly man in the Royal Rumble?” Tragically, he died the following year.
I have a picture sitting on Dick Murdochs lap when he did a signing at the local Walmart in the early 90s. At the time it felt like I was sitting on the lap of a wild grizzly bear. I was scared shitless.
Murdoch was a true showman and many never realized what they where watching when he was on. Truly a legend as wrestler and character.
Agree...great take on D. Murdock. He did holds and take downs ( drop toe hold, drop kicks, head scissors) that didn't look possible for a man of his size and build. As Jim Cornette said, "...can't judge the book by the cover.."
“He was such a great showman people did not realize what they were watching” 😂
"Dirty" Dick Murdoch; "Captain Redneck" had worn blue overalls and a blue cap with Dick Slater = a WCW tag-team known as "The Hardliners" (?). That is my only memory of this man/guy; back in the 1980's - 1990's.
I did hear stories about him being a legitimate tough guy in real life. Like the stories you hear about Harley Race, Rick Rude, Haku, and Ron Simmons. One of the guys you didn't want to get into in real fight with.
Dick Murdock and Bill Watts tore the Tulsa Pavilion down.
It being Tulsa, the fans were happy to assist.
Brian Last nails it with the Murdoch/Afa match. It was the 2nd match on the card. And the crowd wanted it to continue after a draw.
Dickie could work with anyone, from Steamboat to Andre.
Good old Dick Murdoch and his black glove "peanut Butter". I can still hear my grand mother yelling at the TV asking why the ref was letting him wear it after he clocked someone
Dusty Rhodes told someone a story about Murdoch driving him to a KKK party without telling him beforehand.
Dick was so good on the mic that you couldn't hijack the show fro him even when the fans was fever pitch and was really giving him hell he still had control over the crowd.
Only Ernie Ladd’s promos have made me laugh more than Murdoch’s..
When he hit Dibiase with that brainbuster on the outside in mid-south 🤘
Wish I could time travel. I'd start a federation for the crazy Wrestlers. All of them. Hanson, Murdoch, Abdullah,crazy Sheik,Brody, Slater, Sullivan,Vachon. Lol
Make sure Buzz Sawyer is in there…lol.
You could hire Bob Kardashian to settle all of the lawsuits.
Jesus, you'd want to try to run that operation? Might as well start a farm herding cats (big dangerous man eating ones).
You forgot Meng
You forgot the craziest of them all new jack
"Who dat dere's gunna beat dat team? Who Dat? Who dat?" - Dick Murdoch
I remember something about Dusty saying Murdoch was a card KKK member
Yep. It's amazing how he's being given a pass. Always an excuse for crap people.
@@Persephone715 what do you care. this isnt about rumors
Barry Windham versus Dick Murdoch was a great match in UWF
@CaseyDrummer I am going to click on that link and watch that match.
The match took up the entire time of show. Absolutely fantastic
Yes, those two had great chemistry.
I remember that Promo he cut in the snow on the porch. Classic. I remember my little brother was like. "he tough as hell if can sit outside without a shirt on in the snow" The good times lol
I was a Bob Armstrong fan until I found out he was racist.
The Murdock-turns-on-Dibiase angle was awesome. We'd been waiting for the chance to cheer Dibiase again, and it was perfectly executed, and covered by Watts. When I talked to Ted about it, he said only Murdock and KKKox would he let brainbuster him.
Dick hit that brain buster perfectly, and protected Dibiase all of the way down. I much preferred the delayed version of that move, rather than Garvins’.
The only thing I know about Dick Murdock, is he made a grown man cry in public and yell "it's still real to me damnit"
Imagine Murdock in todays' safe PC corporate wrestling
I mean I'd like to think that being in the Klan was always a bad thing.
If he was a supporter of blm he'd get a pass.
@@hotrodriguez549 but the BLM haven’t lynched anybody,never bombed no churches,never murdered little children,but your racist buddies in the Klan have a history of those atrocities
There is a clip of him yelling at the studio fans on TBS calling them a bunch of "kayfabers."
That was hilarious lol.
cornette need to save every single thing he know from and about wrestling plus storys behind,into a computer.
cause if he die one day we still can listen to his stuff. dont want to miss that
Murdoch and that brain buster
LOL the reason everybody thought Murdoch was nuts was because he was nuts.
I worked in Puerto Rico when Dicky had the book and you are absolutely right about that.
Alot of people back then in wrestling were nuts. Murdoch was far from the only one. It was almost a requirement back then.
Tom Jones said that Dickie was a little racist but he calm down when he got a Mexican wife. and He said that Bob Orton Sr was in the klan but he always wanted to drive with Tom Jones. Jr told TJ this at a show one time when Randy Orton first started at WWE.
Murdoch as strong as an ox
I can remember a tag match when I was a kid which one team consisted of "Dirty" Dick Murdoch and "Dirty" Dick Slater. Two "Dirty Dicks"? I'm 41 now and it still makes me laugh. 😂
Sounds like when the two of them were the “ hardliners.”
I heard a commentator say when he was in the Outlaws, it's dirty dick Murdock and dirty dusty rhodes!
I forget off hand which 1980's big NWA show, it is on the network but any way, Murdoch vs someone and Teddy Long is the ref. During the action, Murdoch keeps getting accused of pulling his opponents trunks during headlock pin attempts. No commentary during this show btw. So you hear Murdoch ask Teddy Long, "I thought you were in Atlanta?". Teddy admonishes him for pulling the tights which Murdoch really wasn't doing this time. It's hilarious. So Murdoch replies, "I haven't used his trunks!" Teddy replies, "I know it". Oh god, Murdoch snaps his head around at Teddy like WTF!! But then immediately goes back to working the match. God it's great.
it was the tv title, jim was right
1/3/88
NWA World Television Title:
Nikita Koloff (c) vs. Dick Murdoch - Time Limit Draw (20:00)
NWA Pro - TV-Show @ Baltimore Arena
He was a member. Everybody is not lying but they say they got along with him
Dick Murdoch, Dick Slater, Dick the Bruiser...God dammit, I'm confused!! 😅
You have to know your Dicks.
Haha I just looked up that promo Jim mentions of Dick on the deck drinking beer in the snow LOL
He had a great run in Puerto Rico back in 91-92. Very respectable heel. He had a Puerto Rican stooge and he wouldn't let him eat Puerto Rican food, just hamburgers. The guy, named Joe Don Smith says Murdock was a great dude and it was his own idea to bring him to the business
th-cam.com/video/6PjVpNxcUmM/w-d-xo.html
All the fans “know” about Dick Murdoch is what they saw in the ring, and that was one of the best workers “ever”. He was a great heel, and was both believable, and hilarious, on the mike.
I Just Watched the Murdoch in the Snow Promo Earlier This Morning, & Laughed My A$$ Off
Murdock is a wrestling hall of famer no doubt about it.
He was tremendous. If I have to pick five wrestlers whose matches I could enjoy again, Race and Funk are in that group, and so is Murdoch.
Think of how many big guys today, that have zero cardio. Murdock could conserve energy.
Funny once I saw this video out came videos Cornette and Brian Last has mention lol
I sat ringside for the 1985 flair debiasi murchoch match at Irish McNeil on the la state fairgrounds in Shreveport
It was crazy Ted’s blood shot all over the first five rows
What an amazing description of character.
If you can find footage of when Murdock was a tag team with Dusty Rhodes, watch it! It's awesome.
I also recall when Murdock was working with the Midnight Express, those interview sketches were funny, I remember one where Jim's "Mother" was questioning some charges of ridiculous amounts of Beer and Chewing Tobacco on the accounts. Comedy Gold!
The Outlaws were an awesome team, and Dick’s time with Cornette and The Express was hilarious.
I haven't heard anyone use the phrase "cockstrong" since I was in college back in the 70s.😂😂
I understand and appreciate the need for generating animosity as a heel. But let's tell the whole story. Dick Murdoch has said the most racist shit I've ever heard on national television. Just bringing up a neglected aspect of Murdoch's presentation. Even Cornette won't go there because he loves Dick Murdoch.
Yes, JR confirmed recently that Murdoch was a card carrying member of the KKK.
Do find it for us. You can can't you
Dick Murdock was alright, he was always three k's out of five
Dick Murdoch wrestled during an era when a wrestler's body could look like total sh*t.
Murdoch was a fantastic worker 👏
As for the klan story Rocky Johnson, Bad News, and Tito Santana are a few that have said he was a klan member. Rocky Johnson basically stated he would be rougher with black wrestlers. Dusty told somebody can't remember the name Murdoch drove him to a party and didn't tell him it was actually a Klan Rally. Don't know how much is true, but he does look like the guys in those movies.
Just watched a vid of Tony Atlas stating Murdoch told him he was a member and Murdoch never hid that fact
Murdoch was such a racist that he worked with every top minority wrestler. The bastard
Jim Ross on his podcast said he actually saw his membership card. Pretty low but I still enjoy his matches. Since he's dead it don't matter to me what he did back in the day
@@dinkdoink100 why would there be a membership card. It ain't a library
@@chrischar9428 they had cards you know, well spent of their branches did so
The weirdest thing I saw was Dick Murdoch in Japan for the WING promotion in the early 90s. Like stated Murdoch could do anything but it just struck me as weird.
Several wrestlers said he was a card-carrying KKK member,, and that he once sent Tommy Rich and Tony Atlas to a KKK rally without telling them.
Tony Atlas???
@@anthonymartin9923 Yep.
Dusty apparently was taken to a rally by Murdoch and was appalled as well.
so?
Is you is or is you ain't my constituency...
Love watching this guy wrestle need to find more good matches 👍 can’t find the DiBiase, Afa, or Blackjack matches on youtube.
wish wrestlers now were like this
Brian, that match of Murdoch and Alfa was the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw this video on on him cause that match was awesome.
Imagine that someone try to recruit Corny for Klan, Corny would use his tennis racket for a old school beating.
For some reason my brain pictured Corny's racket with a clan mask on it instead of a cover. I pictured a Mr. Hat/ Mr. Garrison dynamic where the racket is a member of the Klan but Cornette isn't.
Talk about OVW talents when did they come in how you decided to book them etc anything than AEW bs please
Wasn’t he in the Klan?
Thanks corny!!!
Murdoch vs Bugsy Mcgraw
The Dick Murdoch Klan stories all go back to a story where Murdoch and Tommy Rich sent Tony Atlas (who is black) to a Klan meeting as a rib.
This is why I kinda wish New Jack was a bit older, let's see if they'd try and pull that with him or Ron Simmons
@@leelohaskin7941 New Jack was a total coward. He only fought with kids and old men. Ron Simmons was in WCW at the same time as Dick Murdoch. They worked matches together and neither had a problem with each other.
Wasn't he in the Flatliners Tag Team in WCW in the early 90's?
Yeah for a second, feuding against the Steiners. Around the time Flair left
I grow up watching Dick Murdock he was good
Murdoch didn't change how he worked based on what he was paid or how he was treated. He would just go into comedy mode sometimes. He did those matches in the old days when he thought he could get away with it. Jimmy Valiant jacked around in the ring all the time and probably was the worst about it. But it got over with the crowd and eventually became his whole gimmick. Terry Funk would goof around too if he had the chance. Murdoch was more interested in having fun every day than doing all the hard work it would take to be NWA world champion. In the next generation, Barry Windham was kind of the same way. All the talent in the world, but no motivation to give everything over to the wrestling business.
Remember how awful he looked during the 1995 Royal Rumble Match, some fat old lad comes shuffling out because he couldn't walk anymore and trying to throw Shawn Michaels out of the ring who completely no sold it lmao.
Mash potatoes
Gravy
Pillowy Mounds
Your Stealing my Lines
Nikita Koloff's work was good, Jim has a hard on to put him down. Every once in a while he is out of line, doesn't it with Don Muraco as well. Says Muraco in WWF was just fat and not much on the microphone. Just admit you didn't watch him in the WWF during that time period and cut the crap
Koloff and Robert Gibson had a LEGENDARY match back in 1986! long one! lasted thru at least 2 commercial breaks...
Koloff lost his luster with the face turn and stepping off the gas. But Jim is way off about Muraco, who was awesome in Florida and Georgia “and” New York.
Would get more views if we could see you and the other person
Check out his match against Killer Karl Kox in Japan which is on TH-cam. Incredible.
Here's the promo
th-cam.com/video/PaK6LtbYzjs/w-d-xo.html
From what I've heard, if Murdoch was Klan he wasn't hardcore about it, aside from bringing the Confederate flag to ringside on occasion (which was a lot less of a big deal back in his day) he never to my knowledge brought any of it to work, he was always willing to work with, lose to, and tag with black wrestlers, according to Dusty Rhodes the Klan thing was just part of Dicks twisted sense of humor, he just found it hilarious to take someone to a rally and watch them freak out.
Klan sympath for sure (dusty?) but if he held personal sentiment, he didn't let it boil over and effect his professionalism.
Weirdly enough, most of the Black wrestlers he worked with or around aside from Bad News Allen seemed to like Murdoch (JYD, Butch Reed and Tony Atlas in particular). I have zero understanding how a Black person could get along with a suspected Klan member, but whatever.
The true story is that Murdoch and Tommy Rich did a rib on Tony Atlas where they sent him to a Klan meeting in Georgia. It was a horrible rib and stupid. Tony and his then-partner Rocky Johnson were not happy about it. The story spread in wrestling locker rooms for 30 years after. Dusty Rhodes then made the story about himself rather than Tony Atlas and told it to people.
As people told the story, it kept getting bigger and bigger. Murdoch could have been in the Klan, but nobody knows one way or the other. And every single story goes back to the rib on Tony Atlas. The complicated bit is that Tommy Rich was a friend of Tony Atlas and not a racist as far as anyone knows. And he was involved in the rib as well.
Dr Death doesn't come to mind when someone lists tough guys. Bart Gunn maybe.
Both were two of the toughest of the 80's-90's
I heard he tried his luck vs Rocky Johnson and got his ass handed to him.
NOOOO, you're wrong. That's a rumor told by Rocky himself. Never actually happened, a dude just told me that in the comments soo..
You seem to want that to have happened though, why? Racis? Toward whites that invented wrestling!? Better cut the shi man
Yeah. And if you listen to Rocky Johnson stories, he also was tougher than Muhamed Ali and George Foreman who he sparred with. Nobody but him tells the story and there is no evidence it ever happened.
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Lol, so we are idolizing a known klan member? Damn Jim……😔
If you want to believe it feel free
@@chrischar9428 Murdoch was a card carrying member of the Klan,we knew this since the early 80s,you must be a member yourself
@@chrischar9428 its true tito santana even said so
@@michaelrubin9547 t bolt Patterson liked him. That's the last guy that would like a klansmen
@@chrischar9428 that's not true Jim Ross knew he was a kkk member
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wasn't he a member of the kkk?
Most of the KKK stories go back to a rib that Murdoch and Tommy Rich did on Tony Atlas in Georgia. They sent him to a klan meeting. Tony Atlas was rightfully upset about the rib. The story spread in locker rooms and changed for 30 years. Dusty took the story of the rib and made it a story about himself that he told to people. And alot of wrestling stories, the more the story spread, the more people would add to it or swear they saw things that may or may not have happened.
Tony Atlas was hot against Murdoch (and rightfully so) over the rib. His tag partner Rocky Johnson was also hot at murdoch over that rib. Every story goes back to that rib. Maybe Murdoch was in the klan, but its always been impossible to know for sure. The rib 100% happened though.
Tito Santana in his book said so as did Jim Ross who said he saw dickkk Murdock kkk card.
Just silly rumors, in an industry full of them. Dick was an awesome performer, that is all the fans truly know.
They say Murdoch was such a good talker, that he had convinced S.W Texas St that he was an alum and was invited to play in the annual Alum football game every year despite having never attended the school....lmao