100 % everything that you said needs to be changed, let's hope they listen to there customers. Looking at this machine but thinking of the Pro for the large dumping bed!!
I've got the same machine in stone grey. Just got it in June. I also have the same complaints as you! For the money we spend on a limited model, should come with everything from factory. Not limited, meaning you have to add. Very nice machine & also bias towards Can Am!
Nice buggy, I have the 2021 hd 10 limited. It has door locks. But I think your doors are much nicer, besides can't lock them. I have 7500 miles on mine. Biggest thing I've noticed that has caused the most problems. Is the front suspension. Weakest part of the machine. I highly recommend you grease the fitting every time you wash the machine. The bushings in my opinion are not built big enough for the amount of weight and usage it gets. I was having alinement issues. And found out my bushings were worn. Put the machine up on jacks and shake the tires to see how much play you have.. Easy cheep fix replacing out the bushings and re-alining the front. Keep up with all the maintenance and its schedules. Fyi belt chang at 6000. You get to know these machines after a while. Today I found a coolant leak on mine. Not sure how to get to the dam hose and fitting to repair it.But I'm not paying 120 bucks an hour for some else to fix it. I will figure it out..Good luck with yours . And don't forget get to be on top of your maintenance.
the cost of the competition with the radio is 4k more msrp than the limited. however i have a limited and i’ve installed a meyham manufacturing head unit in that spot you talked ab. it has a 7” display, water proof to extent but it’s in a cab anyway. bluetooth and wireless carplay
Great review. I'm with you. For 30 grand I would expect some if not all of those issues should be included. If not, an upgraded model with those needed items. The company knows these things are what most people want and or need. Marketing games. We can add another few thousand dollars for them. They are trying to appear as the better value. By removing what you will pay extra for.
My '24 model looks just like this. I agree with your critic of this machine . We also discovered that the door seals show day light at the upper back corners, and our dealer had to adjust the doors to correct that . I don't have a blade for it yet, but its on the Christmas list. New sub, nice video, and thanks for sharing!
I’m gonna say maybe a side by side isn’t what you want… idk. I looked at hp and trq , tow rating , load capacity. The insides of these machines these days is incredible! Checking cattle with it in any weather is a breeze.
Wait until you change the oil lol. I own this same model just camo. Also, my doors could seal a little better but I agree on everything you covered. I have a small 20" light bar on the front mounted inside the bumper and a couple pods on back and it makes a world of difference.
Definitely should have gotten the lube for life. 7500 miles on mine. And I have not changed my oil once. Dealer does it for me on a schedule. It helps keep that machine in good shape. I use mine alot. And they are to expensive not to take the best care you can give them.
I had a 2019 Cab Model XT. (Basically the same as a Limited without the A/C.) Mine did have door locks and it also had a fancier instrument panel so I agree with that. For the wiper, use a coating like RainX on the windshield, it helps immensely. As for the street-kit, they should offer that model as they already sell it in Europe. You can add it but that's a pain in the ass. For your sake, I hope to god they upgraded the pwr window switches. I burned through those rather quickly. That was my absolute biggest complaint. Other than that, I would still take this over the comp. Better ingress/egress due to door design and extremely tight turning radius for its size. Lastly, good video but lose the mirror shades when filming, too distracting.
Ive never used and XMR, but my thought is the XMR suspension and other features are a little more sport focus rather then the defender is almost completely geared towards utility/work focus. I am in Casper.
I am seriously looking at one of these machines for my needs up North in the new house. Winter is coming and I think I am leaning towards the Can Am and not just for price that is against the Polaris. I am interested in the 4 door because of the dogs mostly and the extra room
I currently own a 2015 Commander with 18000 km (11000 miles) and I will be buying something to replace it in the next year or so. I really like the full cab on the Defender LTD but I cant believe they got rid of door locks. I dont feel safe leaving it parked outside in my driveway that way, and I dont want to have it taking up space in my garage all the time. I also dont like the speedometer, it's cheap looking and not nearly as nice as the current setup in my older Commander. Polaris seems to have copied the old speedometer system from Can Am for their SxS. I also can't believe they don't have turn signals. There are lots of trail systems where they would come in handy and many municipalities allow ATV's to ride short distances on town roads to get gas, food etc. CF Moto includes them on all their machines. Your complaints are not petty. I am partial to Can Am but if I am ready to buy a new machine and a competitor had locks, signals, horn, and better speedo for the same or similar money I'd go with the competitors because they obviously care more about their buyers. In Canada a Defender LTD is 35K plus accessories. That's very pricey for what these machines are and certain features are just expected at that price point.
I looked a Polaris Ranger and Can Am defender! After looking the fit and trim of both machines I chose the Can Am! Polaris has one stupid shifter and their fit and trim was bad and they actually were more expensive than the defender! Everyone I know up north all run Can Am and it’s hard to find one up there because of that fact! We love ours and has held up to everything we’ve throw at it hunting and farm work!
Hello brother, I appreciate your feedback. The main comment you have that I agree with is the door locks. I love our machine. Thanks for your time and stay cool and safe.
yeah man its close. wipers ac/heat. totally agree- where the heck is the turn signal and tunes. otherwise solid rig. do the windows drop down or are the stationary.
My ‘21 DL has blue painted panels. Both doors have outside locks though not the ability to unlock from the inside. Has been in the shop for warranty work on pass door not shutting properly so much that it could open while driving. AC wouldn’t come on for a while and the drivers side door window control would not work. The last two items seemed to be common complaints by others. I don’t like the chintzy cable keeping the doors from flying open. Don’t care for the suicide style door either. Responsiveness from the gas pedal in my 1000 cc engine is poor. Nothing like my Outlander 1000 XTP. Hard to see anything in the rear. Believe it should have more factory default features and options. It’s a beast in the trail and I’m the snow. Love the heater in the winter and AC in the summer.
The model polaris you ate talking about with ride command comes at 32 grand amd speakers cost even more after that. So these are comparable on price but can am builds a beefier unit compare to polaris
Good video, yes some maybe petty but hey you’re just letting people know. I have a 2019 xt and agree the headlights are like candles. Seems all BRP are terrible my skidoo is the same but like you say there’s a lot more good stuff than bad. Cheers
Not interested in turning my daily F150 Limited into a plow truck, the SXS weighs 2,000 lbs and is built to do this kind of work, way easier to maneuver in tight areas and why not buy a toy to have some fun every once and a while 😃
Personally im not interested in doors on a UTV / or A/C ( heat no doubt) good looking machine- im liken the defender...im thinking base model for me ... thanks for the vid
Totally get where you’re coming from base model is a great machine, I just needed the fully enclosed cabin with heat due to all the winter plowing I do.
@@Dreamscythe1 At least some if not all of the Canadian CFMoto imports come with turn signals. The current US models I've seen do not have turn signals or license plate lights. I had to get those installed on my dime on a 2022 ZForce 800EX. I don't understand why they don't include the turn signals for the US imports since they already have it developed for Canada. Cost cannot be that much and it would inhance safety.
@@bruceh3786 really, thats pretty stupid, im in Canada and i assumed the USA had them to. i know Europe does. the USA is the larger market i find it weird they would skimp on things like that there
@@Dreamscythe1 Check out the differences between the Canadian and US versions of the C400. The US only gets the single seat version and it is a stripped down version.
Weak halogen headlights, why? On a limited. In the age of LED. No excuse. Couldn't put a little timer on the wipers? And finally, how about a dealer installed street legal kit. I'd pay a thousand bucks. In Nevada we can drive on roads in most places. Yes, I have a love hate thing going on with my Can Am.
I have the same machine but in the 4 door. I have the same complaints, the biggest one being the lack of door locks. I just put Beamtech LED bulbs in mine last weekend and they work great. Big improvement over the standard bulbs. Got them on Amazon for $30 dollars a pair. I had Driven install the turn signal kit when I got mine back in February. Well worth the money to have that done. I also did the light bar on the front bumper and that makes a big difference as well. One other thing I did was I bought a winch remote control kit on Amazon for $20 dollars and it works great. You are correct in that for the money these things cost, a lot more features should be standard. Great job and glad you are enjoying yours.
My opinion on a lock, is the low life bastards will bust the door or break the glass to get in best to let them in. Sucks because I keep some survival stuff in mine. Yep very low tech, then stereo, ya should have it easier to put in gear. Lights suck. I had to put light bars on mine. FYI, the wipers yep, a slower speed and or a intermittent would be nice and to note, the bastards put a fuse box or a fuse spot for the wipers up under where the stereo would go.
The ac problem is a Maintenance / lack if filter issue. The coil get clogged and then the high pressure switch trips out. The fix. Use a garden hose and clean the coil from where the , so called filter is. These machines get really dirty. And the systems in them needs to be taken in consideration.
$30k for this is unbelievable and a total rip off, you can buy off lease a Tacoma for just a few bucks more….That has everything you want and can do most everything this can…..
I don't know how you can get up in the morning with the weight of the world on your shoulders. Maybe the Army Corps. of Engineers could parachute in to save you from your troubles. I hope you never burn your toast in the morning cause I'm not sure the National Guard you get there in time to save you.
I live in Southern New Mexico. I use mine like another everyday car. I can use it in the heat. Cold and rain. Street legal. And it fits in my toy hauler. For me it works and I live that kind of life style. But your right. I jeep 4 runner and a half dozen other vehicles could fit the bill with a lot less expense and maintenance. Good luck on the trail.
I have the 6x6... mine my buddies and my brothers all ate the reverse chain before 200 miles. Super crap design. Got the heavy duty chain upgrade and no issues after that.
I’m not really sure why you need to be a tool to this guy making the video. I had no idea there was such trolls in the side-by-side hobby. Good grief son. Grow up.
Hello brother, I appreciate your feedback. The main comment you have that I agree with is the door locks. I love our machine. Thanks for your time and stay cool and safe.
100 % everything that you said needs to be changed, let's hope they listen to there customers. Looking at this machine but thinking of the Pro for the large dumping bed!!
I agree with you both. But reason I like Can Am is because of the engine, the competition isn't making aircraft engines either...
I've got the same machine in stone grey. Just got it in June. I also have the same complaints as you! For the money we spend on a limited model, should come with everything from factory. Not limited, meaning you have to add. Very nice machine & also bias towards Can Am!
Nice buggy, I have the 2021 hd 10 limited. It has door locks. But I think your doors are much nicer, besides can't lock them. I have 7500 miles on mine. Biggest thing I've noticed that has caused the most problems. Is the front suspension. Weakest part of the machine. I highly recommend you grease the fitting every time you wash the machine. The bushings in my opinion are not built big enough for the amount of weight and usage it gets. I was having alinement issues. And found out my bushings were worn. Put the machine up on jacks and shake the tires to see how much play you have.. Easy cheep fix replacing out the bushings and re-alining the front. Keep up with all the maintenance and its schedules. Fyi belt chang at 6000. You get to know these machines after a while. Today I found a coolant leak on mine. Not sure how to get to the dam hose and fitting to repair it.But I'm not paying 120 bucks an hour for some else to fix it. I will figure it out..Good luck with yours . And don't forget get to be on top of your maintenance.
the cost of the competition with the radio is 4k more msrp than the limited. however i have a limited and i’ve installed a meyham manufacturing head unit in that spot you talked ab. it has a 7” display, water proof to extent but it’s in a cab anyway. bluetooth and wireless carplay
Great review. I'm with you. For 30 grand I would expect some if not all of those issues should be included. If not, an upgraded model with those needed items.
The company knows these things are what most people want and or need.
Marketing games. We can add another few thousand dollars for them.
They are trying to appear as the better value. By removing what you will pay extra for.
The cat hair on your hat is a nice touch 😄
😅 thats for sure dog hair ...we don't do cats in this house lol
My '24 model looks just like this. I agree with your critic of this machine . We also discovered that the door seals show day light at the upper back corners, and our dealer had to adjust the doors to correct that . I don't have a blade for it yet, but its on the Christmas list. New sub, nice video, and thanks for sharing!
Appreciate the comment! Hope you enjoy the new machine 🤟🏼
Thanks for the video. I’m pricing one out today. Not for snowplowing though. :-). Mostly for Hunt camp.
Nice , hope you enjoy !!
I’m gonna say maybe a side by side isn’t what you want… idk. I looked at hp and trq , tow rating , load capacity. The insides of these machines these days is incredible! Checking cattle with it in any weather is a breeze.
Old truck with a plow would move snow for less. And they have door locks. 😊
All true points 😂😂
Wait until you change the oil lol. I own this same model just camo. Also, my doors could seal a little better but I agree on everything you covered. I have a small 20" light bar on the front mounted inside the bumper and a couple pods on back and it makes a world of difference.
I am getting some pods for the back so I can see at night while reversing! Thanks for the comment 🤝
Definitely should have gotten the lube for life. 7500 miles on mine. And I have not changed my oil once. Dealer does it for me on a schedule. It helps keep that machine in good shape. I use mine alot. And they are to expensive not to take the best care you can give them.
I have a 2020 HD8. No complaints.
I had a 2019 Cab Model XT. (Basically the same as a Limited without the A/C.) Mine did have door locks and it also had a fancier instrument panel so I agree with that. For the wiper, use a coating like RainX on the windshield, it helps immensely. As for the street-kit, they should offer that model as they already sell it in Europe. You can add it but that's a pain in the ass. For your sake, I hope to god they upgraded the pwr window switches. I burned through those rather quickly. That was my absolute biggest complaint. Other than that, I would still take this over the comp. Better ingress/egress due to door design and extremely tight turning radius for its size. Lastly, good video but lose the mirror shades when filming, too distracting.
Door locks?
I'm a Canadian. Door locks would be completely unnecessary for me.
How do you think this compares to the XMR? Obviously the xmr doesn't have a cab but other features how do you think? Also what part of WY?
Ive never used and XMR, but my thought is the XMR suspension and other features are a little more sport focus rather then the defender is almost completely geared towards utility/work focus. I am in Casper.
I am seriously looking at one of these machines for my needs up North in the new house. Winter is coming and I think I am leaning towards the Can Am and not just for price that is against the Polaris. I am interested in the 4 door because of the dogs mostly and the extra room
4 door is really cool absolutely massive units, hope you can land the one you want and it does what you need it to do !
I currently own a 2015 Commander with 18000 km (11000 miles) and I will be buying something to replace it in the next year or so. I really like the full cab on the Defender LTD but I cant believe they got rid of door locks. I dont feel safe leaving it parked outside in my driveway that way, and I dont want to have it taking up space in my garage all the time. I also dont like the speedometer, it's cheap looking and not nearly as nice as the current setup in my older Commander. Polaris seems to have copied the old speedometer system from Can Am for their SxS. I also can't believe they don't have turn signals. There are lots of trail systems where they would come in handy and many municipalities allow ATV's to ride short distances on town roads to get gas, food etc. CF Moto includes them on all their machines. Your complaints are not petty. I am partial to Can Am but if I am ready to buy a new machine and a competitor had locks, signals, horn, and better speedo for the same or similar money I'd go with the competitors because they obviously care more about their buyers. In Canada a Defender LTD is 35K plus accessories. That's very pricey for what these machines are and certain features are just expected at that price point.
I looked a Polaris Ranger and Can Am defender! After looking the fit and trim of both machines I chose the Can Am! Polaris has one stupid shifter and their fit and trim was bad and they actually were more expensive than the defender! Everyone I know up north all run Can Am and it’s hard to find one up there because of that fact!
We love ours and has held up to everything we’ve throw at it hunting and farm work!
Hello brother, I appreciate your feedback. The main comment you have that I agree with is the door locks. I love our machine. Thanks for your time and stay cool and safe.
Bro I love your property, beautiful views!
yeah man its close. wipers ac/heat. totally agree- where the heck is the turn signal and tunes. otherwise solid rig. do the windows drop down or are the stationary.
Both doors have electric window controls. Great rig for what I use it for . Thanks for watching 🤝
These machines will climb up to 40k+ in the future, ouch! These are valid complaints and agree with the things you pointed out.
A full roof bar light would serve you well particularly with plowing.
My first thought as it gets quite dark in the country lol
I wouldn't say they're petty, just creature comforts. Aside from the locks and blinkers, those are a hard requirement here
I agree for the price it could come with more standard
Stuff I most have a HMR but still wasn’t cheap
My ‘21 DL has blue painted panels. Both doors have outside locks though not the ability to unlock from the inside. Has been in the shop for warranty work on pass door not shutting properly so much that it could open while driving. AC wouldn’t come on for a while and the drivers side door window control would not work. The last two items seemed to be common complaints by others. I don’t like the chintzy cable keeping the doors from flying open. Don’t care for the suicide style door either. Responsiveness from the gas pedal in my 1000 cc engine is poor. Nothing like my Outlander 1000 XTP. Hard to see anything in the rear. Believe it should have more factory default features and options. It’s a beast in the trail and I’m the snow. Love the heater in the winter and AC in the summer.
I don’t think my headlights are too dim I think they’re just angled way too high to be effective
The model polaris you ate talking about with ride command comes at 32 grand amd speakers cost even more after that. So these are comparable on price but can am builds a beefier unit compare to polaris
Sounds like what you wanted was a Jeep or Bronco.
god no that sounds terrible 😂😂
Is the bed on this standard on all the side by sides? I mean are all the beds the same? This one looks small to me.
Pretty sure they are all the same 38 x 54.5 x 12 in.
Good video, yes some maybe petty but hey you’re just letting people know. I have a 2019 xt and agree the headlights are like candles. Seems all BRP are terrible my skidoo is the same but like you say there’s a lot more good stuff than bad. Cheers
One of our favorite color schemes. Great job on the video. Keep up the good work!
And that is why I kept my 2021 Can-Am defender limited because of the door locks on it
Look how many issues the Polaris had compared to that. Canam is by far the best and longest lasting. Technology is nothing but issues
Looks a white truck in the background, a blade wasn’t considered for it ? Why use a 1000 lbs sxs when a 4000+ truck can be used?
Not interested in turning my daily F150 Limited into a plow truck, the SXS weighs 2,000 lbs and is built to do this kind of work, way easier to maneuver in tight areas and why not buy a toy to have some fun every once and a while 😃
Personally im not interested in doors on a UTV / or A/C ( heat no doubt) good looking machine- im liken the defender...im thinking base model for me ... thanks for the vid
Totally get where you’re coming from base model is a great machine, I just needed the fully enclosed cabin with heat due to all the winter plowing I do.
i had a dream in this exact location
Be nice if they put a sunvisor on both sides
I had my tinter add a 6” banner of 20% across the top of the windshield, works awesome.
yea thks
Tech breaks in working environment
I’m thinking that the 2025 will have a large tough screen, with a couple of thousand dollar increase in price.
I’ll bet you are right 🤝
Check out the manure.
I don;t know of any side X side that comes road ready from the factory!
Don’t think there is , wish there was though !
cf moto atvs and sxs do, horn and turn signals on them all even the small 600 atvs. they all even have a license plate bracket and light
@@Dreamscythe1 At least some if not all of the Canadian CFMoto imports come with turn signals. The current US models I've seen do not have turn signals or license plate lights. I had to get those installed on my dime on a 2022 ZForce 800EX.
I don't understand why they don't include the turn signals for the US imports since they already have it developed for Canada. Cost cannot be that much and it would inhance safety.
@@bruceh3786 really, thats pretty stupid, im in Canada and i assumed the USA had them to. i know Europe does. the USA is the larger market i find it weird they would skimp on things like that there
@@Dreamscythe1 Check out the differences between the Canadian and US versions of the C400. The US only gets the single seat version and it is a stripped down version.
Weak halogen headlights, why?
On a limited. In the age of LED.
No excuse.
Couldn't put a little timer on the wipers?
And finally, how about a dealer installed street legal kit. I'd pay a thousand bucks. In Nevada we can drive on roads in most places.
Yes, I have a love hate thing going on with my Can Am.
Agree 100% about the intermittent wiper, and a street legal kit would be legit. The wiper is my only complaint on my limited.
I'm looking. Not concerned about Bluetooth and radio. Heat only would be fine.
I need sunvisors both sides
That’s an excellent idea 👍🏼
6” banner of 20% tint across top of windshield works awesome.
Where are you from
Wyoming 🤟🏼
I have the same machine but in the 4 door. I have the same complaints, the biggest one being the lack of door locks.
I just put Beamtech LED bulbs in mine last weekend and they work great. Big improvement over the standard bulbs. Got them on Amazon for $30 dollars a pair.
I had Driven install the turn signal kit when I got mine back in February. Well worth the money to have that done. I also did the light bar on the front bumper and that makes a big difference as well.
One other thing I did was I bought a winch remote control kit on Amazon for $20 dollars and it works great.
You are correct in that for the money these things cost, a lot more features should be standard.
Great job and glad you are enjoying yours.
My opinion on a lock, is the low life bastards will bust the door or break the glass to get in best to let them in. Sucks because I keep some survival stuff in mine. Yep very low tech, then stereo, ya should have it easier to put in gear. Lights suck. I had to put light bars on mine. FYI, the wipers yep, a slower speed and or a intermittent would be nice and to note, the bastards put a fuse box or a fuse spot for the wipers up under where the stereo would go.
Why did you buy it if you don’t like it ? It’s not a Jeep or a 60,000 dollar pickup
If you watch the whole video you will see that I really enjoy this machine ! Last thing I want is a Jeep and I already have a truck oh that caliber.
take your belongings in the removable glove box
Sounds like what you want is a two door pickup
No I wanted a side by side , these are just things they could have done better 👍🏼
They are famous for the air conditioning not working !!
The ac problem is a Maintenance / lack if filter issue. The coil get clogged and then the high pressure switch trips out. The fix. Use a garden hose and clean the coil from where the , so called filter is. These machines get really dirty. And the systems in them needs to be taken in consideration.
Is this casper ?
Yes it is !
@@GoodysGarage i thought so. Im In bar nunn . 2023 defender max limited .
Nice 👍🏼
no locking doors is a fail
$30k for this is unbelievable and a total rip off, you can buy off lease a Tacoma for just a few bucks more….That has everything you want and can do most everything this can…..
For $30K all I hear is what is wrong, for a little toy at this price, all should be stout.
I don't know how you can get up in the morning with the weight of the world on your shoulders. Maybe the Army Corps. of Engineers could parachute in to save you from your troubles. I hope you never burn your toast in the morning cause I'm not sure the National Guard you get there in time to save you.
Have one and agree with him 100%.
Weakest headlights I've ever had on a vehicle. No excuse for that.
😂 struck a nerve here ? Calm down, it’s just a TH-cam video about my own machine that I spent my own money on .
@@TheBandit7613get a truck if you want highway performance headlights
So weird these are not cars people does things made for the woods drive your car over to the boat ramp if you want to lock the doors…..
SORRY BRO...I WOULD NEVER SPEND 30,000 DOLLARS FOR THIS CRAP....no radio..dash is terrible..bad lighting..cant drive on the Road...NO WAY😢😢😢
to each his own🤝
I live in Southern New Mexico. I use mine like another everyday car. I can use it in the heat. Cold and rain. Street legal. And it fits in my toy hauler. For me it works and I live that kind of life style. But your right. I jeep 4 runner and a half dozen other vehicles could fit the bill with a lot less expense and maintenance. Good luck on the trail.
Be a patriot buy 100hp case or jd tractor 🚜
I hear NOTHING but complaints
I'll bet you wipe front to back.
Buy a jeep and save your money
I got one and it's an overpriced piece of garbage
I have the 6x6... mine my buddies and my brothers all ate the reverse chain before 200 miles. Super crap design. Got the heavy duty chain upgrade and no issues after that.
Cry much
😭😭
I’m not really sure why you need to be a tool to this guy making the video. I had no idea there was such trolls in the side-by-side hobby. Good grief son. Grow up.
@@BrettL250 he is complaining about nothing
@@edwardschuenemeyer7661 then ignore him. Grow up.
@@BrettL250 you worry about you
Small box= useless
Hello brother, I appreciate your feedback. The main comment you have that I agree with is the door locks. I love our machine. Thanks for your time and stay cool and safe.