METALLICA VS MEGADETH - THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER to who is better? (100% serious and scientific)
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- Who is better? The ultimate question in metal.
Megadeth or Metallica?
Dave Mustaine Vs James Hetfeild, Lars Ulrich and Kirk Hammet
🤘 Get ready for the ultimate battle in the world of thrash metal! In this epic video, we dive deep into the fierce rivalry between Megadeth and Metallica, two of the most iconic bands in the history of heavy metal. 🎸
🔥 Whether you're a die-hard fan of Megadeth's aggressive and technical style or you find yourself headbanging to Metallica's classic hits, this video breaks down the strengths, weaknesses, and defining moments that have shaped the legacies of these legendary bands.
📚 Discover the origin stories, musical evolution, and the infamous moments that fueled the intense competition between Megadeth and Metallica. From the groundbreaking albums to the some stinkers in between, we leave no riff unturned in this epic battle of thrash metal supremacy.
🎤 Join us as we analyze the contrasting styles of Dave Mustaine and James Hetfield, the driving forces behind Megadeth and Metallica, respectively. We'll also explore the impact of their bandmates, the evolution of their sound, and how they've influenced the entire metal genre.
🤔 Who truly reigns supreme in the world of thrash metal? Share your thoughts in the comments below and let the debate rage on! 🗣️
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Chapters
Into 00:00
Methodology 01:57
KILL 'EM ALL 00:05:41
RIDE THE LIGHTNING 00:07:59
KILLING IS MY BUSINESS 00:10:51
MASTER OF PUPPETS 00:14:16
PEACE SELLS 00:16:51
SO FAR SO GOOD SO WHAT 00:19:35
AND JUSTICE FOR ALL 00:23:21
RUST IN PEACE 00:27:26
METALLICA 00:31:39
COUNTDOWN TO EXTINCTION 00:34:27
YOUTHANASIA 00:37:01
LOAD 00:40:32
CRYPTIC WRITINGS 00:45:25
RELOAD 00:48:27
GARGE INC 00:51:38
RISK 00:53:32
S&M 00:59:46
THE WORLD NEEDS A HERO 01:01:38
ST ANGER 01:04:31
THE SYSTEM HAS FAILED 01:09:36
UNITED ABOMINATIONS 01:11:39
DEATH MAGNETIC 01:13:33
EDNGAME 01:16:30
LULU 01:18:48
THIRTEEN 01:22:09
SUPER COLLIDER 01:24:30
DYSTOPIA 01:27:07
HARDWIRED TO SELF DESTRUCT 01:29:43
THE SICK THE DYING AND THE DEAD 01:32:33
72 SEASONS 01:35:30
FINAL THOUGHTS 01:39:37
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It’s crazy that it took until last year for Megadeth to stop releasing albums every 2 or 3 years.
Their consistent output over the years is very impressive
I agree. It's really impressive
MegaDave had to fight throat cancer first, then came a great follow-up thrash album to 'Dystopia'.
Dave recently talked about trying to put another 3 albums out in the next 10 years before he calls it quits. I don't know how realistic that is, but I'm all for it. I love both bands, I just prefer Megadeth and they've made more consistently great music. The people that fell off after the RIP era really missed some gems. I love the era of 86 to 95, but I also love 04 to 10. The System Has Failed, United Abominations and Endgame are definitely some of the best of modern Megadeth, to me. And this is controversial, but I actually love Risk for being a great album. It's not a great Megadeth album, though. Does that make sense? And I like most of 13, and a few songs off Super Collider. If you took all the strongest songs off those two, it would make a great album. Really, Megadeth has put out that many albums, and none are bad albums, they just have some weak material on some.
There is a lot of reasons for this.
1. Megadeth will never make as much money as metallica touring wise. So, he kinda has too if he wants to make money.
2. Dave is genuinely a harder worker when it comes to releasing albums. No matter the drama in his band, he realizes or is forced because of contracts to release music. Which really pays off if you are a huge megadeth fan such as myself.
3. Realize that more doesn't mean better. Lest we forget about super collider, risk, 13, and the world needs a hero.
Youthansia is so underrated, Family Tree being the deep cut classic
This album came out when I was in the 7th grade. It was always my favorite 90s Megadeth release. Love CTE and Cryptic but Youthanasia always hit hard to me. I'm from east Texas and we played a team called the Elysian field yellow jackets !
I love Youthansia one of my favorirtes.
Youthanasia and load are both 10/10 albums for me. Load gets too much hate and youh is underrated.
Elysian Fields is down the street from Lucretia in California.@@aaronmiller7311
So glad to see someone else say this!!!! 🌳
As a Megadeth fanboy Im already kinda pissed for low balling the epic rawness of their debut album
Should've been rated way lower. Sucks ass.
I stopped watching at that point 😮
No way Death Magnetic is better than Dystopia or The Sick, The Dying and The Dead.
As a fan of both bands yes it is, dystopia and the sick the dying and the dead just feel like Souless albums, heard them once and never wanted to listen to them again
@@nemesis8626And death magnetic was full of soul and emotion to you? :))) Dystopia has better music in its first 3 tracks than the whole death magnetic album...
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@@nemesis8626Death Magnetic sounds like a series of riff compilations put into song-length chunks with vocals slapped on and meaningless lyrics that sound like they were written by AI. So disjointed.
@@nemesis8626 Not to me. Oh well.
I heard Master of Puppets on a school bus in 86. I bought it, then bought kill’em all and RTL soon after. Been a metal fan ever since. So happy I experienced the big four back in the day.
Happy New Year Everyone!
I love both bands and regardless of the results of this video it does not take away from either of the bands. Both of which are legendary and incredibly influential. I love and enjoy both bands, but who is better? I guess we will find out?
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I didn't know that both of these bands went back in time to 1977 to release albums.😅
try barzakh mennar
Lulu was a Lou Reed album. It was not Metallica. Get real.
48:30 1977 😂
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Justice and Rust In Peace both deserve 30/30’s
Rust in Peace is already an icon, i think Countdown to Exctinction is also should be an icon. As we can see in this system 25+ albums are cult albums, AJFA and CtE also deserves a spot there.
Nah but MOP definitely is flawless
Metallica has two, maybe three, masterpiece albums. Master and Justice, for sure, maybe Ride the Lightening. Megadeth has one masterpiece in Rust. That being said, Dave wrote a lot of Ride the Lightening.
@@jedramos6518 no dude he only Co wrote two songs on Ride the Lightning. Give Metallica credit where credit is due. They definitely have 3 master piece albums arguably 4 if you're a black album fan which lots of people are I'm just not one of them
@jedramos6518 lol Metallica have 4 masterpiece albums not 2 . Kill em all which Dave wrote 4 songs and all the solos on the kill em all album . When he was fired from the band in 1983 he told them not to use his songs . They did anyways and they got credit for Daves work. Ride the lighting is definitely a masterpiece some even consider it their best album . Dave only wrote 2 songs for lighting album . Title track and The call of ktulu . Master of puppets their biggest success and Justice by many as their best album . Black album was ok also the album where it started going down hill for their career . Megadeth biggest success rust in peace ,Peace sells and Countdown to distinction .
I'm watching a bit at a time. I love Dave's vocals. It's more an act or spoken word than singing, it's awesome to me.
Thats a good way to put it!
It's heavily influenced by Alice Cooper, I'd think.
Watch the concerts from Argentina in 2005. Oh my! It's so awesome!
🔥M E G A D E T H🔥 is my favorite band of all time, but Metallica is also in my Top 10 forever because of their 80s albums only 💯
Yeah, I like Metallica, too. But even if they go back to just being metal again for the 2nd time (I have concerns), I'll support them as long as they don't pull another St. Anger.
I'm admitting I like everything except for St. Anger. LOL! But I see what you mean.
Every time I see a Metallica vs. Megadeth thumbnail, I feel like I’m 14 years old again, yet also 60.
Youthanasia was a banger. Addicted to choas wore my tape thin i listened to it so much.
I play Addicted to Chaos way too much. That's my freaking life, Chaos. LOL
Who fucking cares?
Anyone who's a fan of metal with an IQ over 90.
me 😈
i don't
I love St. Anger
I also have a great affection for Youthanasia. In some ways (thought not all), it's my favorite Megadeth album. Youthanasia and Rust In Peace are doing different things, but they both do what they do excellently.
R.I.P. to your mom too buddy, sorry for your loss. My mom took me to alot of metal shows too as a kid and it was appreciated so much then and even more so now that she's gone too but I still have those memories. Thanks for the kick xss content man.
I really like the raw and angry vibe of the original version Killing is My Business. The remastered versions really brought out Gars drums, particularly the 2018 version. The first vocals we ever hear from Dave on Loved to Death are that very primally screamed "WOAH". As many have noted before me, alot of the riffs on the album qualify for solos. The title track is just ferocious riff after riff.
The ascending guitar solo intro to Skull Beneath the Skin is pure adrenaline. Reminds me of the musical equivalent of a hit of crack. Then that other finger tapping guitar intro to Looking Down the Cross is downright creepy and still sends chills down my spine. Never heard anything quite like that album, except for Mustaine's "psychotic" style in general on the early albums. Peace Sells certainly stepped up their game, but I still absolutely love KIMB and never forgot about it all these years later.
I think this album is underrated and it's so frustrating ! The album is almost perfect ( without these boots ) and I think people just don't want to focus on it
@@ALCIN0_ I know what you mean man!
no argument my megadeth is the best metal band am9ng the big 4 . and aming the big 4 metall8ca is never included
A lot of the songs on KIMB cause damn-near instantaneous tendonitis when I attempt them. I've been playing 23 years and very little on that record is 'easy' for me in any way 🤣
Can't we just agree both are amazing?
They both are for sure!
Nah Metallica is a crappy cover band
@@pastaboy9371 you say it just because of Mechanix/The Four Horsemen
We could agree if that was a fact but it's not. Metallica is music for the masses, and we all know what masses consume. Brands, crappy food, crappy music, etc
@@JPR17 Metallica isn't crappy, they have written albums like Master of Puppets that are masterpieces, the masses only know Enter Sandman and Nothing Else Matters, and those are a little crap
I think Dave deserves a lot more credit here for Kill Em All
Why? Only one song was Dave's, the other 3 were contributions.
You want Dave to have sole credit for the entire album?
Half the album has nothing to do with Dave.
@@zane4575 Huh? Mustaine was a co-founder, played every show for the first year(s), helped secure a record deal, and is credited with 4 out of 10 songs (40%) but clearly his influence and DNA is all over KEA. Metallica fired him, stole and profited from his intellectual property. Hammett walked in, had all the guitar rifts, and they recorded KEA. Mustaine is also all over RTL too, credited on 2 out of 8 songs (25%). I'd say he should get about 25% or more credit for the first two albums, being 1 of 4 original members and having contributed so much.
this isn't a Dave vs Metallica, it's Megadeth vs Metallica.
MEGADETH
Great video man! came here after the death song analysis videos! love seeing deep dive videos on the bands that got me into playing music when I was younger! Would love to see a crystal mountain deep dive!! Keep it up brother!
Yessir! Flesh and the Power it holds is next up but Crystal Mountain is on the list! Cheers brother
Sorry I meant Scavenger of Human Sorrow is next!
Oh hell yeah Bite the pain would also be super dope!@@VARVIS_
Also, Beyond Magnetic/ Cryptic Writings deserved a mention and that’s a hot point. Both were excellent.
I just found your channel off the recent Death videos (Chuck song structure and the song analyses) and have been looking forward to more of that. I was wondering if you were on a winter break since you typically upload so often but I see why, this is a long video! Looking forward to it, I like both bands and don’t really have a dog in the fight, gonna be a fun one.
Flesh and the Power it holds is next my man 👍👍 thanks for your support
Sorry I mean Scavenger of Human Sorrow 😂
All this thrash metal turned my brain to mush
ohh Bite the pain would be super cool too!!@@VARVIS_
@@VARVIS_ Oh yes that will be tight. SOHS is one of my favorites! Hope your mom is rocking in peace🤘
You forgot Megadeaths
Hidden Treasures is an EP by American thrash metal band Megadeth, released on July 18, 1995, via Capitol Records. The album features songs that originally appeared on film soundtracks and tribute albums. Four of the tracks were released as singles, and three have received Grammy Award nominations for Best Metal Performance. Despite having garnered mediocre or negative reviews, the material on the EP has been credited with helping expand the group's MTV audience in the early 1990s.... @wiki
I didnt include EPs. Although I really enjoy hidden treasures
Its not a EP tho its a full Album 8 tracks is not a EP
@@lucaseverin666It was considered an EP at the time. I can't remember back then it was 9 or 10 tracks to be considered an LP . I have noticed that has changed.
@@DalaganteMaster of Puppets is 8 tracks and thats an LP
@lucaseverin666 may be it is length of album. I just remember being it being 9 track was an ep back in the early 90s
I was 21 in 1984.
Been listening too Metal since I was 14.
Started with Black Sabbath and Alice Cooper then Iron Madden.
I'm 60 now and still Love Metal I chosen Megadeth
The commitment that it took to put this together and almost countless hours of listening to these albums. Bravo, man. Great video.
Hahahah thanks man, It did take a lot of time. Cheers
In my musical world, my opinion is the only one that matters!
well....what is your opinion then?
Fun fact on Euthanasia , it was recorded in on perfect take in the studio! This is how good of a band Dave assembled and I still to this day miss it! R.I.Pp. Nick Menza...
I'm assuming you meant "Youthanasia" *wink*. Even though it was commercial I really liked it and today I have been playing "A Tout Le Monde" constantly. I also like Cryptic Writings (Trust!), and even some stuff on Risk. Insomnianianianiania is one of them (lol). LOL At least Megadeth didn't have a St. Anger album (IMO) but if any come the closest it would be Risk. But again, Risk is better than St. Anger IMO.
@@NAlvazaz Good one, wink wink" yay those have grown on me and I guess if it's from Mustaine, I'm gonna like it period. Of course I like his heavier stuff the best but this is from the heart and good for special times.
Great video man. Enjoyed it🤘🤘
When I listen to Last Rites/Loved to Deth, I imagine the organ part being Mustaine plotting his revenge during the bus ride back to LA while the main riff signifies Megadeth.
I love So Far, So Good, So What!!!
Rust in Peace/Polaris and Call of Ktulu
Good video bro. Earned a sub.
Thanks homie welcome
Absolutely lovely video ! Enjoyed every minute of it, great work, man, I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed it my man!
I can't believe how little attention your videos get. You clearly put a lot of effort and energy in your videos and I really hope you reach the stars eventually!
ayyyy appreciate it man. I only really started making all these videos a little over 6 months ago, but I still really appreciate the kind words!
Another thing I noticed is Super Collider is their first D standard album, they just didn't know what to do down there until Dystopia era 😅
Don't know why the writing process would differ. All the same on guitars...
Lo único que odio de ese álbum es el tema homónimo, se me hace inescuchable
Coming out of the music store with my Brother holding Ride The Lightening then popping it into his cassette deck Pioneer stereo, hearing Fight Fire With Fire blew our minds but not as much as realizing they maintained that quality throughout that album. Of course Fade To Black really topped it off. 10/10 I'll never forget that experience because it changed my musical expectations from that point forward. Then hearing Peace Sells at a friends house through his Bose speaker system was a memorable moment as well.
I tapped out on this video when you went in on Hook In Mouth. I think you are a little too young to appreciate that one. The PMRC was a HUGE deal in the 80s. It kept music out of the hands of kids trying to buy anything THEY deemed inappropriate. It's not dated. It's history, and Megadeth played a part in the fight.
Fair enough man. I get that. Thanks for watching to that point anyways 👍🫡
"It was a HUGE DEAL in the 80s!"
"It's not dated!"
Which one is it, bro?
@@charlesblerzbo1616 what's the next sentence bro? It's history. The PMRC tried to oppress the entire music industry. Had they succeeded we'd be living in a whole new world right now. They wouldn't have stopped there.
@@charlesblerzbo1616
Both.
Don't think free speech isn't an issue today?
I’ll take epic content sporadically vs. daily grind vids as awesome as they have been ❤
Ayyyy big thanks brother ❤️
Can you do a video on Control Denied? Love your videos
Say what you will about Metallica's covers, but the $5.98 Ep is a fucking BANGER.
Absolutely
My favorite by them as far as the mix.
I would love to see more videos like this where you listen and review albums and talk about what songs are noteable
Thats great man! I was thinking maybe long form discography reviews. Same style as this but not head to head with 2 bands. What do you think?
@@VARVIS_ oh yeah that seems like a great idea to just deep dive into discographies
What’s your opinion on hidden treasures. I know it wasn’t an official album but just curious how it would compare to the others
i have been waiting for years for someone to do a dave mustaine v kirk limited talent hammet....solo v solo
I'm glad you didn't just end it with "it's hard to tell for sure. Be sure to let me know in the comments what you think."
hahaha gotta give the people a real answer
Glad I didn’t watch the video for a crap ending like that. I just skimmed comments hoping someone like yourself would write what was the end result.
@@calypsoshoard9132 no it's worth him going through the albums and giving them a solid rating.
dude it's unbelievable to think how much work you've put into this video. I've been a fan of both these bands since around 2009/2010 so it took me 15 years to get to know their stuff. I imagine it must have been a ton of work. Very fun video to listen to. I guess the scores might have been different for anyone because of personal score, but that's kind of the point of this video. Another person can have metallica take the crown, because they might be more to their liking. On my list megadeth probably would've had more % because I'd give at least 9/10 to a couple more of their albums. I'd give dystopia at least 9/10. And that would be my score. Ultimately Your scoring is genuinely as objective as it gets, since it's music so it's you can only be so objective. Keep up the good work. It's my first time seeing this channel and I'll definitely check out more of your stuff. Cheers m8 \m/
Youthanasia is one of my favorite records by Megadeth almost always have it in cd player in my car
Me too, me too! :)
WTF Dystopia is a masterpiece. 6.5 out of 10 is crazy.
Agreed.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 I've been a Megadeth fan since 1990 and I think Dystopia is my favorite album.
@ebenezerspludge8369 It's damn good that's for sure.
Better than anything Metallica have done anyway
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Yeah, absolutely. I loved Metallica as a kid but as I got older I just don't enjoy them. Megadeth evolved their sound while keeping what makes them so unique. Metallic seems to simplify their sound with each album and it gets boring fast.
Rust is their only true masterpiece. Dystopia is amazing. A masterpiece? No way. It's a solid album. Definitely top 5
Dystopia definitely deserves a higher intangible score it was the first album Megadeth ever won a Grammy for
Yeah, I can't believe it would get less than a 8.5. For me it's a 10.
Distopia was a great album. It was them returning to good metal songs and Keiko was a great addition to the band.
@@sighermike I agree, it's in their top 3 albums for me.
@@sighermikeNot to mention Chris Adler from Lamb of God. He might not have stuck around with Megadeth for long but his drumming was solid on Dystopia.
what would you have rated the original Garage Days?
Overall, it was a good take. However, I feel Cryptic Writings was better then stated in my opinion, and Dystopia (album) won a GRAMMY for best Meal performance 2017 which should have arguably boosted the intangible score.
Damn 13 is really low rated. For me Black Swan is one of my favourite Megadeth Songs and I really enjoy the Album. Also wanted to say Thank you for making this Video. It was really cool to watch.
I was too young in 1984 for Ride the Lightning but heard it for the first time in 1989, and it completely blew me away. This was a time when Sabbath was considered going back to the early days and that meant just 20 years ago. So even Sabbath sounded fresh. I first heard Metallica as more extreme forms of metal were also entering my awareness. I am sure for people in 1984 it was even more stunning to hear, but I would say even in 1989 that is only five years after it came out. Also a lot of the truisms about these albums that haven become really widespread over the internet, simply weren't a thing when I was in a garage metal band in the early 90s. Maybe elsewhere people were talking about this stuff, but no one ever complained about the tone on Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets, or the mix (these were considered pretty apex production for this kind of music), and no one cared about the bass on And Justice for All Being low (I never even noticed it till it was pointed out to me). Maybe it was because we were so focused on guitars (thrash is much more guitar than bass driven). Also when I first heard Fade to Black, I had already been an Iron Maiden fan and loved the Song Children of the Damned. I felt the songs sounded a lot a like. My first impression of Fade to Black was thinking it was a cover of Children of the Damned (obviously they are different, but to my ears at the time, even though I was about a year into playing guitar) they sounded so similar
An album I distinctly recall hearing when it came out was Rust in Peace. I think that album is harder for people now to appreciate for a number of reasons. One thing I have noticed is most modern ways of listening, don't really do it justice. There is just no comparing listening to that stuff on old school speaker systems. And it was pre-loudness wars so you didn't have to worry about the version you were listening to having all the emotion drained out. But primarily it was just this earth shattering album to hear. To this day I can't think of a more perfect metal album (and I tend to like Metallica more than Megadeth, but Rust in Peace is impeccable from beginning to end).
Stunned is a fitting description to hearing Ride the Lightening for the first time in '85. Coming out of the music store popping the cassette tape into my pioneer stereo and hearing Fight Fire With Fire, Come on man 😲 The craziest part is kept that level of quality throughout song after song. It blew my mind really. I had heard Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, but this blew everything up to that point out of the water.
that is so awesome that your mom took you to both of those shows ,what a great mom you had may she rest in peace
In time where I didn't had a sound blaster on my 486DX2, I remember playing Syndicate and Doom 2 with Youthanasia playing on my Stereo... and everytime I ear those musics or play some levels of those games one thing connect to the other. Great album!
I would like to also add that on Megadeth's "The System Has Failed" album, they brought back guitarist Chris Poland from the Peace Sells lineup for some studio solos. That might be worth some bonus points ;)
Rust in Peace was my favorite Megadeth album for a long time.
Way before then I loved the song Thought I Knew It All but never listened to whole album.
I actually have to thank you because you’re the reason I recently started listening to that album because of the megadeth remasters video you did and the snip it of Blood of Heroes got me thinking “holy shit what song is this this sounds too good” and now it has become my favorite megadeth album
Glad to hear it bro, Youthansia is criminally underrated, welcome to the ascended Megadeth fan tier
Great review sir love this content
Curious Varvis, what gear do you use for playback?
What do you mean?
When I heard fight fire with fire metal now changed for me tthey became my favourite band and seen them on that tour
I remember Lars laughing telling the joke abou being chased by Niki 6 for taunting him about wearing make up , like we are the hard ass band, didn't take him long to change his mind
That was a bitch move 😮😅
New Sub. Sorry to hear about your mom. But what a cool person she had to have been to take you to aome awesome concerts. Looking forward to future vids bro.
okay this video was really good, would you ever do a video on slayer?
Probably in the future sometime.
Megadeth .
please tell me you listened to the original these boots and not just the remastered they have different lyrics
Hangar 18💀
Blackened 🤟
Also great vid, might have to listen to some of the songs from the later albums that you've recommended, since I've mostly skipped them.
Love your critique on Rust in Peace!
Megadeth wins!
Without a doubt, Metallica hasn't done one good thing in 34 years. It is like they hit thier peak and it's been alllllll downhill since.
Not bias at all!
LMAO
😂😂😂
1) wants to lower Metallicas disatvantage in the number of music released
2) "strengstens" them with Lulu
3) ...
chad moves 👍
Its got their name on it 🤷🏼
He left off hidden treasure as well so that probably did Metallica a favor
Yea.. angry again is on that if I'm not wrong and that's a great great song.. so.. shut your mouth... he tried his best to make things even..
I love how, much like the two bands being discussed here, you are ALSO getting tired and over it by the time the video is ending lmao
Really interesting to hear the perspective of someone who wasn’t around during the jarring transition from thrash greatness to more reigned in mainstream radio friendly mass appeal stuff. You can review these albums without the bias and animosity that some of us old farts still carry with us. I agree with a lot of your points and my final score would probably be similar. The OG uncensored These Boots cover slams though. I think they did the covers to give Chris Poland some of the spotlight. Would’ve been better if they just carved out a bit of space for him in original tracks though.
Here's my take: I've been a fan of both bands for 20+ years and have had all the ups & downs and ins & outs you can expect being a fan of both groups, but at the end of the day... it's Metallica. The quantity of Megadeth albums over Metallica counts for something, sure, but what REALLY matters is how the music makes people feel and how it inspires them. Objectively, Metallica is simply more inspirational. Yes, OBJECTIVELY, Metallica is far more inspirational than Megadeth. Megadeth's influence basically stops once you leave the Halls of Heavy Metal, but Metallica's music has been re-imagined, re-interpreted, covered and performed in every damn way you can imagine. Want to hear a marching band version of Metallica? Metallica on harp? Flute? Spoons? Someone's done it. Megadeth really only connects with guitar players.
Lyrically, James is way better at emotionally connecting to the listener. Dave sings about "cool" shit, like wars, guns, extinction and like... wizards and magic, blah blah blah. James sings about the shit going on inside you, which is why songs like Fade To Black, The God That Failed, Nothing Else Matters, The Unforgiven and even One are so compelling. Yes, One has a war-induced theme to it, but the actual message is about being trapped, helpless and wanting to die. That's what makes it truly heavy. The music is aggressive, but the lyrics is what makes it heavy... which is something Megadeth lacks. Megadeth is fast and sometimes have some pretty fancy fretwork, but they just don't feel that heavy. Even Metallica's softer moments still have a certain weight to them. To me, when it comes to Metal, HEAVY>SPEED. Megadeth has NEVER been heavier than Metallica. And we all know that Mustaine's vocals are straight up fucking trash a lot of the time. His voice is fucked, and it takes a fair amount of studio magic to make it work on record, because you hear him live and it's just like..... yikes, dude.
Finally... the primary function of Rock/Metal bands is to play live... and once again, Metallica takes it. Metallica gives more to their fans. You go to a Metallica show and the setlist will never be the same, while Mustaine hasn't updated his setlist in like 15 years. I saw both bands this year and no question, Metallica stomps Megadeth.
"Never been heavier"
Post American world, bodies, blood of heroes, the chugging riff in Headcrusher. The part about lyrics is literally bias as youre just cherrypicking songs at that point. Also Mustaine HAS been kinda ass live but as you said he is playing more complicated songs
@@petarblazevic1954 I don't know man, in general, Metallica is simply heavier. Like... When you compare album to album... RTL is heavier than Peace Sells. Puppets is way heavier than SFSGSW. AJFA is heavier than RIP. Black is heavier than CTE. Load & Reload are heavier than Youth, Cryptic & Risk for sure. St. Anger is a lot heavier than TSHF. I like TSHF more than St. Anger for sure, but St. Anger is still heavier.
As far as the lyrics, I think it's pretty obvious that James bares his soul a lot more openly than Dave. Dave writes about external topics... The things he sees in the world, but James writes more internal shit. Thoughts, feelings, etc. Mustaine couldn't dream of writing something so introspective as say The Unforgiven.
@@Kapricorn.Musick Point is theyre different styles of playing. Also, in my darkest hour exists
looks like you had plenty to say...:}
@@petarblazevic1954 In My Darkest Hour ain't that deep, man. The way Hetfield weaves the story 1of the boy turning to an old man and then revealed that "the old man here is me" is genius storytelling.
I don't know what to tell ya man, I like Megadeth, I think Mustaine is a genius guitarist and one of my favorite guys in the genre, but his lyrics are just not as personal and connective as Hetfield's.
Re-listen to what you said about Dystopia (quite positive review) and Hardwired to Self Distruct (quite negative). And compare your marks... 😅
(also see The sick, the Dying and the Dead... lol)
Going forward on this bands albums is not a trash metal decline but for me I see musician becoming more musically and age come to maturity.
Im curious, what would the score have been if you jad included Betond Magnetic? Or does that one not count
You missed Hidden Treasures and MD45!
MD45 isnt a Megadeth album (unlike lulu) and Hidden Treasures is an EP. Its a banger EP but I didnt use EPs for this 👍👍
MD.45 is great.
Apparently I'm the only one who prefers the edition with Dave on vocals.
Love that album.
Dave didn't just write the Kill Em All solos, he wrote 4 of the songs. 4 Horseman, Jump, Militia, Phantom
But technically, he was in metallica then. So as far as bands go, these are points for metallica.
Dave only wrote Mechanic, the other 3 songs he co wrote aka contributed.
Making it seem like Mustaine wrote half the album...lol.
@@zane4575
And James rewrote to lyrics to make it much less corney
Metallica got me into Metal, Megadeth solidified my obsession with the genre.
I think “So far, So good, so what…” is a much better album than you give it credit for. Songs like “Hook in mouth” - “In my darkest hour” and “Set the world afire” are underrated bangers that can stand next to the best tracks that either of these bands have in their portfolio.
Also, I think the bass line from “Peace Sells…” being the theme song for MTV news for a decade, should of bumped that album’s intangible rating up a bit. Literally everyone on earth bobbed their heads to that lick, wether they new it was Megadeth or not.
Other than that… I largely agree with the work you’ve done here which was a surprise to me. I wasn’t sure that a young dude who “wasn’t there” could truly appreciate that moment of the 80’s & early 90’s, when thrash metal was a cultural force.
Overall great work and I’m happy I invested the time to consume this content.
Thanks for watching man! I knew it was a theme song for some MTV show but didnt realize it was MTV news and for a whole decade 🤯
Def would have bumped it up a bit. Cheers man !
Load/Reload is very underrated imo.
I would say this days it's overrated
Yo Bro, this is an excellent production and very much appreciated!
Megadeth, in my opinion has and always will be a hungrier band with the musicianship out weighing by far..
Megadeth is Megabetter!..
I could think of In Flames/Dark Tranquillity as another "rivalry" but tbh I'm not sure if it would make sense to compare those
Now i have seen/listened to your video. We are very much alike despite 20+ years apart, we differ a wee bit on favorite songs. What would be cool though, is if you could do something similar on heavy metal/hard rock/most of the subgenres, because I am at loss for words when it comes to new heavy stuff recorded after, say, 2005. I cannot get a grip on that music. Sure, there are bands that are great, i.e. Greta van Fleet and Swedish band like Bonafide and French/Irish band Molybaron. But bands like Lamb of God, My own sin, Beyond the Black, whaaat?! Those new bands have made me search for music way back in time and/or revisiting old acquaintances like Metal Church and Sanctuary and by all means old school Chicago blues like Buddy Guy. Since there's 20+ years between us, I am sure you got a lot to say.
Hmmm interesting, like a video on newer metal for older metalheads? Or something different?
Well, that too. I am kind of searching for the missing link. Grunge, for example, came about, partly at least, when thrash, Bay Area style started to decline - like there was a craving for something new. It is difficult for old school metal to stay afloat. Like mentioned in the video, when a new record is released fans and music journalists go "meeh, mediocre" and laments on the good days have long since passed. I happen to agree to an extent, hard to keep it up without being repetitive and/or becoming a laughingstock. However, today's metal and heavy style evolves aroung growling the best and/or performance like WASP did back in the day or Iron maiden with big Eddie doll walking around on stage. Difference is, in my opinion, back then it was done as a bit of fun and it kind of suited the style, whereas today it just fall flat. Metal of today also feels engineered and without passion and technical knowhow. It seems like bands today puts together different elements and hope it sells, i.e. female and male duo, symphonics with dragons and vikings or devils worshipping. I am missing the point and above all, I miss quality.
Generally speaking i’m down 100% with Megadeth but i like Metallica too, once in a while i kept myself listening to Ride the lighting, MOP, AJFA, Death magnetic has a dark story to me, let me tell you: i listened to the album for the first time last year, 1 week after i listened to the album one brother of my friend that we used to play videogame when we’re kids committed suicide, and okay, it was sad but, when i listened again to Death Magnetic ( and i usually listen to a full album when i’m doing my exercises) 1 week later i recieved the news that my older aunt died, after those facts (everything hapened in less that a month) i stoped to listen to this album, quite bizarre that everything happened in the same period of time that i discovered the album (and quite a name the album have 😂) but hey, great album apart my story, back to Metallica and Megadeth i simply listen to Megadeth more because it fits with my energetic personality, everytime i listen to Rust in Peace i kinda gain more energy (that’s nice because music has effects on us) and i like the more complex songwriting that Megadeth have and the lyrics too, but certainly i like Metallica too
Megadeth is certainly millions of times better than metallica but somehow not as popular.
I thought your profile picture was Soundgarden's down on the upside.
@CaptainBlackBread not even close. Maybe you can mistake it if the screen is small. 😆
See Slayer
@christophermilliken3910 were you born yesterday? Don't you think everyone already knows about slayer? You are suggesting it like it's something new.
That's because, in general, humanity is not a meritocracy.
You added the first S&M but not the 2nd? I mean it was mostly recycled stuff from the first S&M but the new additions actually (in my opinion of course) made that 2nd S&M quiet enjoyable. Also a fan of both bands but definantly more of a die hard Metallica fan however i really enjoyed this comparison, thank you :)
Garage Days Re-revisited was my favorite as far as the sound/production. The mix with Jason's bass coming through is nasty.
Fav Metallica: God That Failed
Fav Megadeth: 99 Ways To Die
Did you consider including Hidden Treasures? There's a lot of bangers that aren't anywhere else, eg Angry Again
Metallica first 3 albums were good it went downhill from there , Megadeath has more total better songs, in my opinion
Youthanasia is my #1 fave Megadeth album. I watched your video just to see if you are aligned and you are! I also don’t know why it’s such an underrated album that no one really talk about. Production is AMAZING. All songs are great in every aspects. So I’m a weirdo just like you 😂 Oh and I know this is not part of your scoring but the album art cover is also my #1 fave, it is very creative and has great production value to match the album itself.
Bro its so good, glad you agree, stay tuned hope to have a FULL deep dive on the entire album done soon 👍
Legendary video
It's like comparing Chess (Megadeth) to Checkers (Metallica). Not even close.
Favorite Metallica track - Blackened
Favorite Megadeth -
Five Magics ❤
I absolutel hate 5 magiks 😂 love rust in peace, but the kinda spoken word section with the weird deep vocal effects on that song are so cringe
@@nemesis8626 if you mean the 2004 version with redone vocals I agree but not for the original version
I skipped the commentary a bit for personal reasons, but great analysis dude. Food for thought.
Priest v. Maiden would be an interesting one.
Man, you are spot on!
1977? Wrong
2 very different bands. Sometimes I go on a Metallica binge, and sometimes Megadeth will scratch that itch when I want something total thrash. Metallica released 3 INCREDIBLE albums and have slowly faded and gotten incredibly repetitive in their songs and albums. They found a sound that worked and was amazing, but I don’t nearly listen to albums past the Black album as much as I do more recent Megadeth albums. 72 Seasons was very forgettable and sounded like the sounds they passed on for Death Magnetic. I think I listened to it once and that was it. The Sick the Dying and the dead however have some absolute bangers on it(saying that it ends with imo Megadeth worst song in Mission to Mars, which is god awful and so god damn cheeseballs,) They sound like they’ve gotten really complacent and just depend on those great 3 albums they made and a handful of their classics. Megadeth however have continued to evolve, not without some major failures of course, but as much as everyone makes fun of Dave for his revolving door of musicians, I think that keeps things fresh and gets new blood and players into the fold, changing the sound and theme of albums everytime. Yes Dave is ultimately the brainchild and main writer etc but for instance hiring Kiko made them sound the best they have in years, bringing his Brazilian classics style to the fold (see Conquer or die….holy shitballs). Metallica couldn’t do that if they tried as Kirk just isn’t a great player, especially nowadays. That guy has gotten SO complacent you can pretty much guess every solo he will play on each new song…..queue wah pedal, dive bombs and his usual licks he’s been doing since Kill em all. I personally feel that has really held Metallica back a bit as he adds nothing new to their songs or sound. Megadeth music is just so interesting to listen to as there are so many chord changes, Melodie’s and tempo changes etc, adding that Dave is a phenomenal writer and player and writes music that I doubt the Metallica guys could even play let alone conjure. Dave’s vocals do hold the band back a little but it suits the music. James has a great voice but also he does the same “HOI” “OOOHHH” and the added “yaaAAHH” at the end of every line. 2 very different bands, 2 very good bands, fantastic in their own way, but for me I always find myself going back to Megadeth musically as I appreciate the playing and writing (especially with Kiko in the mix as he’s a MONSTER) a little more than Hetfield and Ulrich. How things would’ve been if Cliff would’ve lived, as I believe they would have continued to write better stuff if he did due to his musicality and classical training. I did LOVE Metallica’s playing with a symphony tho. One of my favourites albums of theirs, but was incredibly disappointed the did a sequel to it and missed out some incredibly obvious songs to play with them (ORION, FACE TO BLACK, TO LIVE IS TO DIE ETC….) and just basically did a repeat of the first one. I love Metal and symphony music together although I’m not sure how Megadeth would sound with one behind them…..it’s be fun to try tho…..regardless, enjoy the both for what they are.
Hook in mouth reminded me of a Metal version of The Devil went down to Georgia
My first concert was Ozzy with Crue and Wasted in Buffalo NY '84
You left off Metallica's 1987 "The $5.98 E.P. - Garage Days Re-Revisited"
That's a good one too!
I didnt include EPs. plus it was on Garage Days revisited anyways
varvis is cool
I heard this album *(Ride the Lighting)* back in 1984... my older brother put it on the record player...
And I became an instant fan immediately as soon as I heard it.... it really threw me for a loop... because of the time nobody was doing anything like that... it was one of the first clean and dirty type of sound I ever heard....great Album.
*(Long live ride the
lightning)*
does anyone know why certain megadeth album covers don't feature vic rattlehead?
I have a feeling Metal mascosts became "uncool" in the late 90s/2000s but that is just a theory