I needed to add a little twist to this system simply because the six and eights weren’t hitting at all it seemed. I threw $25 into the field and that made a significant difference. I really enjoy your channel and your videos!
I gotta say Waylon. This one just keeps winning. I've been playing it on Crapsee, which has a knack for tearing strats apart, but it's been doing real good on there. It does even better with Randy rolling! If there's a huge rash of come out 7s, or a bunch of early 7s before the 6s and 8s hit, then things can get scary, but in your typical normal distribution of numbers this thing works beautifully! Even with a rash of 7s, it tends to balance out and if you got the bankroll, and you play it like you show at the end of the video, you'll be just fine.
You're right twice here Waylon, this can be a bit of a grind, yet it also keeps winning $$ Interesting play rule variation I used playing this at Bubble Craps today. I laddered up all three bets after Shoot with a loss, and stayed with the laddered up amounts until returning to last 'In Profit' mark. Capturing ALL the 6 & 8 wins remains one of the most reliable profit generators. I left the front line on the DP, but chasing after losers is the Bankroll killer, let the 6/8 do the heavy lifting. This was an experiment with plenty of Bankroll to cover the Ladder, but I rarely got over Level 3 before the wins took me back to last profit level, then a regress to Base. $$$$ You're trending UP in my book Brother!!
First time I rolled this strategy, I hit the point and a come out 7, 4 times in a row lol. This and multiple come out 7s are the losing sequences of this strategy, but if you can dodge those then this strategy will grind you to a fortune.
Hiya Waylon, I like this strategy! after 2 hits on the 6 or 8 I will regress $60 6 & 8 and place the outside numbers for $20. each. I ride it out. works pretty good with a good shooter.
I like this strat. If youre getting a lot of come out sevens, you could probably play the grim reaper ( i think thats what you call it) on the come out and switch to this once you get a point. Im gonna try it next time i go to tunica.
You use 6 and 8 sometimes and you use 4 and 10 what system is your favorite. And what system makes you on average the most money. Thanks for your systems
@waylonswaycraps I tried this a few nights ago on a bubble craps machine….with some variation. I added a $10 field bet each time and took the winnings to the outside numbers and pressed. I also pressed up on the 6 and 8 when I reached one point of profit for the entire roll. Started with $1000 and walked away about 2 hours later with $2700. Sweet strategy, but curious of what you think of my modification. Also…started with $50 on each and the don’t, not $100.
What about hedging the comeout roll the way you did with the lay 4 on the arnold strat. Would that help here? BTW, I'm a complete noob here. never played craps before in my life but I'm hooked on your channel.
I gave this a go yesterday but not great results. Kept getting come out 7's and when I stepped up and stepped up again I kept losing. And when there was say a point on 4 or 10, great opportunity to hit lots of 6's and 8's, make some money, almost never got those either. Lost half my stack quick, $800 down. Stopped bumping up the bets and just kept the lower level, stayed about even stack for 4 hours!!!! I switched to my old standby of pass line and 5x odds and won it all back with $500 profit in 45 minutes!!! I thought this would be work great, but at least not for me yesterday. Much lower house edge on pass line with odds I'm sorry to say.
What do you do when your local casino won't let you keep a bet on the point number and the point comes out to 6 or 8? Would you pull the bet and let 1 number ride, move the bet to a different number or pull both bets and hope for a 7 out before the point hits?
So bubble craps at my local casino won't let me place on a DP point. They will however let me place lay bets on the come out. So lay the 4 and 10 for $2 each and place the 6 for $1. Set bets to on. I forgot to mention bubble craps is a $3 minimum. Point is established and at most I risk $2. Now I use the DC and put $1 each on DC and 6 /8 total $3 which is the min. Then just do the strategy as Waylon shows. The bubble craps does allow a place bet on a DC.
Just wondering...if the point is six or eight, why not move that bet to a five or nine? That way you have an opportunity to pick up some hits on those numbers but the loss on a seven out is still the same?
You can hedge the 7 on the come out roll, then after the point, place bets on 6/8 and play the strategy through. If a 6 or 8 hits, you can pull down that bet and leave the other one up, so now you have 100 on don't pass, and 100 on 8 and nothing on 6 because it just won, and so on.
I like this strategy because you not pressing bets and it’s a flat bet strategy….Only 3 bets to deal with so it’s easy to keep track of bets….The only weakness I see is keeping the place bets working on comeout…..You can lose all 3 bets at one time every time a 7 rolled on comeout ….By keeping bets off on comeout you can only lose your don’t pass bet….
With 6 or 8 every 3-4 rolls makes good money…And the DP limits losses. Very Smart😎 But with Randy tossing a record number of Horn numbers and outside numbers… especially a Record number of 4 & 10’s… it Still grinds out profits… especially with the Ladder 🪜 system providing a Strong comeback!👍👍😎 … I did toss quite a few 4 & 10’s… I’ve been saving up those babies! Did ya see how tempted Waylon was to put at least $50 on the 4 & 10’s?🤪 Yeah Randy… you almost got him to deviate from the strategy and put $50 each on the 4 & 10. You could see the money calculation gears moving in Waylon’s mind… there was even a puff of smoke 💨 that came out the ears from all that calculating!😳
I like the idea behind it. I wish you would have shot from the correct locations. You're shooting from the same side of the table. There's a reason they dont let you shoot from the same side. I wonder if the outcome would have been the same. I still like the strat don't get me wrong. Great video.
@@gregvernon7672 forces 120 on the Dp then ! 7 would lose 360 instead of 300! 100$ 6&8 pays 116 vs 120$ 6&8 paying 140$ ! Pays only 20 more dollars for 60$ more risk! Not worth it at the end of the day 6&8 caps are a ripoff imo
come out 7's the real killa this bad boy...................just ran it .....................3 unit hits nevvvvaa good............................math good otherwise
@@googsfive-0318 twice as many comeout 6&8s than 7s! Overtime it pays to work the comeout with this ! I'd probably not work it after I got hit a few times in a row though
Good strategy I wish u recored multiple times doing ur Strategies tho . U give a false impression In ur videos because all video r u winning. At a casino its a much slower pace and way more come out 7s happen so u would not win as much. Knowledgeable strats but im sure u only post ur lucky rolls. Do live streams n show people the real side of craps
I post a strat if it wins more than it loses over hundreds of sessions! But to answer your question I went live for 13 days with my strats and won 170g with a 2500$ starting bankroll! ( live) A record that still hasn't been broke! I post videos of different strategies ! Up to you to know when to play them or not ! But you can fk off
@@waylonswaycraps I mean your exact strategy would lose 7 come outs in a row, so you'd be calling the person who is sticking with your strategy an idiot. If you're suggesting that he switch strategy, then odds that the shooter starts rolling 7 craps in a row is just as likely. Saying that the strategy doesn't work is a bit harsh, the strategy is solid and odds are you won't lose money most of the time. But every strategy has its weaknesses and come out 7s are a huge weak point of this strategy (actually, it's a huge weak point of most DC strategies). Constructive criticism here, but some adaptations could be used to mitigate long strings of come outs 7s. For example, If you roll 2 come out 7s in a row, then throw a quarter on the one shot 7 and wait for the point to buy the 6 and 8.
Jajajaja seven 7s on a roll. You should be on repleys believe it or not. Jajajaja what a clown. Seven 7s, not in a million years. GREETINGS FROM HOUSTON TEXAS.
I needed to add a little twist to this system simply because the six and eights weren’t hitting at all it seemed. I threw $25 into the field and that made a significant difference.
I really enjoy your channel and your videos!
I gotta say Waylon. This one just keeps winning. I've been playing it on Crapsee, which has a knack for tearing strats apart, but it's been doing real good on there. It does even better with Randy rolling! If there's a huge rash of come out 7s, or a bunch of early 7s before the 6s and 8s hit, then things can get scary, but in your typical normal distribution of numbers this thing works beautifully! Even with a rash of 7s, it tends to balance out and if you got the bankroll, and you play it like you show at the end of the video, you'll be just fine.
You're right twice here Waylon, this can be a bit of a grind, yet it also keeps winning $$
Interesting play rule variation I used playing this at Bubble Craps today. I laddered up all three bets after Shoot with a loss, and stayed with the laddered up amounts until returning to last 'In Profit' mark. Capturing ALL the 6 & 8 wins remains one of the most reliable profit generators. I left the front line on the DP, but chasing after losers is the Bankroll killer, let the 6/8 do the heavy lifting. This was an experiment with plenty of Bankroll to cover the Ladder, but I rarely got over Level 3 before the wins took me back to last profit level, then a regress to Base. $$$$
You're trending UP in my book Brother!!
Yeah it's better through the DC ! You can't get beat on all the comeout 7s back to backp
First time I rolled this strategy, I hit the point and a come out 7, 4 times in a row lol. This and multiple come out 7s are the losing sequences of this strategy, but if you can dodge those then this strategy will grind you to a fortune.
Well yeah it loses on comeout 7s lol ! Swap to the passline or hedge the don't
Rolled it out 5 times won all
This is very similar to how I play. Only mod is waiting to place 6/8 until after come out so 3 bets not at risk. Excellent level strategy. Thanks
Hiya Waylon, I like this strategy! after 2 hits on the 6 or 8 I will regress $60 6 & 8 and place the outside numbers for $20. each. I ride it out. works pretty good with a good shooter.
Thanks Waylon! This is a must strategy on my next visit. I can see the potential. Keep them coming.
Thnx brother
I like this strat. If youre getting a lot of come out sevens, you could probably play the grim reaper ( i think thats what you call it) on the come out and switch to this once you get a point. Im gonna try it next time i go to tunica.
im trying this out next week for sure
You use 6 and 8 sometimes and you use 4 and 10 what system is your favorite. And what system makes you on average the most money. Thanks for your systems
Awesome! ❤ it.
Works well. Not a lot of laddering. Wonder if you could just flat bet it.... might be a bit more of a grind and not win as fast, but might still work.
Sir, you are a genius.
@waylonswaycraps I tried this a few nights ago on a bubble craps machine….with some variation. I added a $10 field bet each time and took the winnings to the outside numbers and pressed. I also pressed up on the 6 and 8 when I reached one point of profit for the entire roll. Started with $1000 and walked away about 2 hours later with $2700. Sweet strategy, but curious of what you think of my modification. Also…started with $50 on each and the don’t, not $100.
Excellent
Thanks brother
What about hedging the comeout roll the way you did with the lay 4 on the arnold strat. Would that help here? BTW, I'm a complete noob here. never played craps before in my life but I'm hooked on your channel.
Yeah you can lay the 4 no problem! Thanks for supporting me brother
I gave this a go yesterday but not great results. Kept getting come out 7's and when I stepped up and stepped up again I kept losing. And when there was say a point on 4 or 10, great opportunity to hit lots of 6's and 8's, make some money, almost never got those either. Lost half my stack quick, $800 down. Stopped bumping up the bets and just kept the lower level, stayed about even stack for 4 hours!!!! I switched to my old standby of pass line and 5x odds and won it all back with $500 profit in 45 minutes!!! I thought this would be work great, but at least not for me yesterday. Much lower house edge on pass line with odds I'm sorry to say.
Yeah. It doesn't work.
You got lucky ! Passline with max odds will lose your whole bankroll over 70% of the time on most tables!
@@dongnippano156lol I've won 8;out of 10 with it so yeah it works great for me
I think if you see all those 4&10's rolled. I think that field bet looks very tempting with this strategy
Lol 4&10 is never a bad bet imo!
This was bada*** Waylon played for an hour with bets of 60 on each. Made 1700. I had a long roll of 20 rolls and one of 9 rolls
Awesome
I don’t know much about craps so maybe this is a dumb question, but could you also play the pass line?
I can see the advantage of this. Because the more you spread out the more you have at risk.
Your statement is a contradiction, at risk would not be an advantage
@@tomwittkopp5928 The advantage would be not to spread out and bet on the numbers most likely to roll.
@@tomwittkopp5928 I had to read this a few times before I got it, but I think he was stating that as a fact, not as an advantage.
What do you do when your local casino won't let you keep a bet on the point number and the point comes out to 6 or 8? Would you pull the bet and let 1 number ride, move the bet to a different number or pull both bets and hope for a 7 out before the point hits?
Find another Casino or change strategies
So bubble craps at my local casino won't let me place on a DP point. They will however let me place lay bets on the come out. So lay the 4 and 10 for $2 each and place the 6 for $1. Set bets to on. I forgot to mention bubble craps is a $3 minimum. Point is established and at most I risk $2. Now I use the DC and put $1 each on DC and 6 /8 total $3 which is the min. Then just do the strategy as Waylon shows. The bubble craps does allow a place bet on a DC.
so you keep your 6&8 working always ??
at 3:35 you should have pulled down six and eight as well? but ill try the strat next time i go rolling good new strat thanks waylon
I can bet on the 6 and 8 immediately as well? I thought I had to roll first , then I can bet on those 2 numbers
Yes sir! You can bet on anything you like the first roll! Just tell the dealer your bets are working on the comeout
Sorry for this follow up question but what does “my bets will be working on the come out” ? As well
@@bobbyg2675 that means you'll get paid if you're bets are on and working on the comeout roll if they win
Thank you!!
Just wondering...if the point is six or eight, why not move that bet to a five or nine? That way you have an opportunity to pick up some hits on those numbers but the loss on a seven out is still the same?
What if you don't hit a 5 or 9? Nothing is guaranteed except a 7 out coming!
@@waylonswaycraps For sure that!
Question? If you bets are on during the come out and the seven rolls ..you lose the dont and the 6/8 for a 300 loss?
Yeah and I win on every 2&3 and 6&8 14 ways vs 6
Randy ...if my player 2 was on the passline for 100.00 I could cut the risk of loss to almost zero?
@@elizabethraines9579 on every 7 out you loose so how do you figure more losses than wins
You can hedge the 7 on the come out roll, then after the point, place bets on 6/8 and play the strategy through. If a 6 or 8 hits, you can pull down that bet and leave the other one up, so now you have 100 on don't pass, and 100 on 8 and nothing on 6 because it just won, and so on.
I like this strategy because you not pressing bets and it’s a flat bet strategy….Only 3 bets to deal with so it’s easy to keep track of bets….The only weakness I see is keeping the place bets working on comeout…..You can lose all 3 bets at one time every time a 7 rolled on comeout ….By keeping bets off on comeout you can only lose your don’t pass bet….
You don't get paid on a comeout 6 or 8 though! Almost twice as many 6&8 vs 7s on the comeout roll
Is this a typical run for you?
Smokin !
How offers do you use this method at the Neno and win? I’m 4-0
With 6 or 8 every 3-4 rolls makes good money…And the DP limits losses. Very Smart😎
But with Randy tossing a record number of Horn numbers and outside numbers… especially a Record number of 4 & 10’s… it Still grinds out profits… especially with the Ladder 🪜 system providing a Strong comeback!👍👍😎
… I did toss quite a few 4 & 10’s… I’ve been saving up those babies! Did ya see how tempted Waylon was to put at least $50 on the 4 & 10’s?🤪
Yeah Randy… you almost got him to deviate from the strategy and put $50 each on the 4 & 10. You could see the money calculation gears moving in Waylon’s mind… there was even a puff of smoke 💨 that came out the ears from all that calculating!😳
yea, this one is hard to beat! wow!
Really is
or hows about hopping all the 7$?
what if you also took max odds?
I like the idea behind it. I wish you would have shot from the correct locations. You're shooting from the same side of the table. There's a reason they dont let you shoot from the same side. I wonder if the outcome would have been the same. I still like the strat don't get me wrong. Great video.
Just random rolling so it don't matter really where you shoot from imo
Doesn't a $100 bet on the 6 8 make $140?
Pays 116$
Why not go 120 6 8?
@@gregvernon7672 forces 120 on the Dp then ! 7 would lose 360 instead of 300! 100$ 6&8 pays 116 vs 120$ 6&8 paying 140$ ! Pays only 20 more dollars for 60$ more risk! Not worth it at the end of the day 6&8 caps are a ripoff imo
stronger than otis elevator rope from the 1940's .........................................gg
Yes, for sure on that!!!!
You got that right,
iuec 50
come out 7's the real killa this bad boy...................just ran it .....................3 unit hits nevvvvaa good............................math good otherwise
Maybe bet only the DP on the come out…..then place the 6/8 after the point is established…..might save a few bucks on the come out 7s
@@googsfive-0318 twice as many comeout 6&8s than 7s! Overtime it pays to work the comeout with this ! I'd probably not work it after I got hit a few times in a row though
Yeah comeout 7s suck with the dp but this one comes back hard ! I've been to level 5 with it a couple times but it came back
@@waylonswaycraps sounds good!
@@waylonswaycraps got to level 7......me just a cheap yankee gg
Good strategy I wish u recored multiple times doing ur Strategies tho . U give a false impression In ur videos because all video r u winning. At a casino its a much slower pace and way more come out 7s happen so u would not win as much. Knowledgeable strats but im sure u only post ur lucky rolls. Do live streams n show people the real side of craps
I post a strat if it wins more than it loses over hundreds of sessions! But to answer your question I went live for 13 days with my strats and won 170g with a 2500$ starting bankroll! ( live) A record that still hasn't been broke! I post videos of different strategies ! Up to you to know when to play them or not ! But you can fk off
@@waylonswaycraps😂
I saw a guy playing this at Rio in vegas. I rolled SEVEN 7's in a row on comeout. I thought he was going to cry. It doesn't work.
Well who the hell is gonna lose 7 comeouts in a row ? An idiot I would think
@@waylonswaycraps I mean your exact strategy would lose 7 come outs in a row, so you'd be calling the person who is sticking with your strategy an idiot. If you're suggesting that he switch strategy, then odds that the shooter starts rolling 7 craps in a row is just as likely. Saying that the strategy doesn't work is a bit harsh, the strategy is solid and odds are you won't lose money most of the time. But every strategy has its weaknesses and come out 7s are a huge weak point of this strategy (actually, it's a huge weak point of most DC strategies).
Constructive criticism here, but some adaptations could be used to mitigate long strings of come outs 7s. For example, If you roll 2 come out 7s in a row, then throw a quarter on the one shot 7 and wait for the point to buy the 6 and 8.
hop the seven on come outs
I used Wizzard of Odds and rolled back back 11's and alot of p7outs. Ran my 10,000 bank roll to 0 at ladder 5. I love Waylon but this one?????.
Jajajaja seven 7s on a roll. You should be on repleys believe it or not. Jajajaja what a clown. Seven 7s, not in a million years. GREETINGS FROM HOUSTON TEXAS.