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I brought one a couple of months ago did my pellet testing with it it’s true it does need some pellets through it before you get good results, the best pellets I found was believe it or not RWS power balls getting pellet on pellet and it drives them deep into wooden back stop , so don’t give up on this gun it was worth every penny.
Great to see "budget" rifles vs the £2000 kits that we swoon over. Let's knock the snob value of expensive rifles on the head and let entry levels have a say on the basics of accuracy and precision.
Absolutely agree I have a RM8 and I'm very happy with it.
I've been lucky enough to have top end ltd edition daystates ,FX impacts,theoben Mfr,s etc etc ,but my favourite rifles to use are old mk 3 bsa super tens, no gauge,no quick fill, and a clunky bolt action , I can achieve the same accuracy with it as I can with an electronic daystate so ,it's really good to see guns like this on the market,it proves you don't need a huge wallet to enjoy shooting.
I have a second-hand RM8 I got for £295. The FX Impact 3 is of course better but is also £1500 more.
@@aboutthemetal8783 as a novice shooter, comments like yours are great to read. Thanks for posting.
I shoot a TX200HC at the moment (phenomenal springer) and want a pcp soon. My current ‘want’ is an AA S400. It’s accuracy I’m after but on a reasonable budget.
All the best.
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@@BionicRusty had loads of really good shooting, and, tight groups with my Gamo Venari, excellent ratter as well, does have a vector 6 x 24 x 50 scope on it, which helps, normal shooting range is between 35 - and 50 mtr, and its a budget gun, not everyones choice but i like it
For a 500. Pound air rifle they have given you a very complete kit looks like a great value for your dollar package
Some of the best reviews on TH-cam
It would be nice to see the higher end companies supplying two magazines with their rifles .
Nice rifle, little heavy for me. Word of warning about the bipod though, letting the legs fly out like that under the spring tension will soon break it, trust me, I've had a few of these, best off pressing the button with the bipod against your leg and easing the legs out, or stopping the legs flying out using your little finger and then easing the legs out..... a hell of a lot quieter too!
I broke my one of those bipods within two minutes, not my favourite type of grip/bipod combo. I"d already bought a viable alternative on Amazon for £10, so, no real loss
@@magnaseeker1933 very good mate 👍
Cheers for the tip.
What a cracking rifle. I cant see anything I would change, Foster fitting, large capacity and big mags. Those groups where tightening up nicely at 40m. Another top review, cheers Andy
They could have pushed bipod rail toward the front.
I bought one in .22 a few months back. I really like it... But... It is a little industrial in construction and needed plenty of bedding in. The barrel needed a couple of tins through it and a light clean before full performance was reached. The valve on the filling port/bottle, not sure which, is prone to sticking but again with use seems to have sorted itself out. Overall good value, and is the 3rd Hatsan I have bought.
With a barrel that long it gives you the option to either shoot or poke your target, plus the size of the cylinder allows you to refill your Zeppelin when it runs flat.
I just bought a Crosman "Fire" and totally agree with what you said about rifles needing a bunch of rounds put through them before the grouping comes together.
Got this rifle a few weeks ago and accuracy is excellent
@RogueBrit hi what pellets did you find best with the hatsan factor
What range would you be certain of a first round hit on a 10cm diameter target still? And what caliber do you have it chambered in?
Great Review Andy, hatson are really trying to improve. Nice kit for under 500. Thanks for your hard work Andy. Cheers Simon from York
Great rifle, the only problem I have with mine is the adjustable length stock is a bit wobbly.... oh, and the case limits the size of scope you can fit, if you want to still use it...
I actually bought the factor rc from vector takes little to settle down, dump the qe system and go with a silencer far better, accuracy is spot on!
Who remembers the Johnny 7 rifle? Add a grenade launcher and you've got a big boys version. As ever, good vid Andy. Thanks.
Oh yes I had so much fun with mine and my mates we had great wars in the late 60s.
Thanks Andy! I just received mine. I added a Hawke 3-9x40 AO mil dot scope and a bipod (Looks to be the same one you used in your test footage). I am very happy with it. Thanks again for all you do!
What pellets did you find best with the hatsan factor?
It's good to see someone is producing rifles at reasonable prices, and not following this bullpup trend. Andy didn't mention the price of the carbon bottle, just it was available? But for the price that would give a lot of pleasure down the range, and could show the flash Harry's with their FXs a thing or two.
It's just under £100 more.
If hatsan made a carbine regulated version id definitely buy one.
the factor rc is regulated i have one :-)
@@northeastverminhunters really?
What's your verdict from straight out of the box ?
So much gun for such a good price! I've had a couple of Hatsan's and they have been reasonable for the money. The quatro trigger is great and works well. Not sure about the overall length of this one, especially if you stick a silencer on the end. I think it would make a good 'hide' gun for the pigeons though what with the huge shot count etc...
Great review once again Andy, cheers and keep safe pal.
Great videos I'm new to your channel with about 12 months I've been back watching vids I ve alot to catch up on..so far I'm well impressed with your channel . Your reviews and videos are spot on great job Andy and crew 👍
Hatsan never disappoint 💯
I’ve had quite a few problems. Mine is now back in the shop for the fifth time. trigger issues and filler port. apart from that, it’s a cracking rifle.
Great video! Looks like a winner! Thanks Andy!
Another great review, Andy. Kind of like an FX Impact M3, but with loads of extra gear, and nearly a quarter of the price!
This is a great value, Ill buy this rifle next time I need an air rifle.
THANK YOU ANDY.....I ASKED AND U DELIVERED...ORDER IS IN
That box it comes with is a bit like Mary Poppins Carpet bag !
You done it again Andy.
Good review. I believe your reviews to be non bias and factually presented. Your review conclusions lead me to believe that they are true and honest without the over opinionated hype. I just purchased this rifle today, 1/4/22 and trust that my experience will be as positive as was yours.
*wonders what the trade in on my AT-44 would be??* Really like the look of this one. Great price as well !! Cheers.
Bob Ross of airguns
This one is fun, Hasann...what a pkg. Aggressive and the goodies...well worth it. They should also throw in a matching Scope and it would be completely ready. PS- tone down the magazine color. Thx.great rvw.
Love Your reviews sir! If shrouded barrels weren't illegal in my state, I would definitely own one of these!
Greetings from England 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@simonnoble7589 Greetings from Rhode Island USA USA :-)
I didn't think much off the look. But by the end making me want to buy one. Just don't tell the other half.
Add to shopping list 😍😎
Not usually a fan of PCP stuff , but i do like this , great package. The cost of bottle etc just puts me off for the "occasional" shooter
I have yet to need more than the bottle that came with mine and filling at the local range is cleap enough. I am thinking about purchasing a compressor, but thats a "future project"
Why is it that every review I watch , I get the desire to by the gun
That’s next on my list..👍… I got it.. been back to the shop four times already. Trigger issues and filling valve..
The problem is ( here in the US) reviews from Hatsan owners is that you get no customer service and quality has been an issue with Hatsan
Thanks for the review. Hopefully the next gen will have a barrel band, no barrel droop, and be able to get closer to what the Avenger is currently capable of doing in regards to group size at 40m. What precision and accuracy can you achieve by single shot rather than clip? The bolt probe usually dings the pellet skirts on these cheaper rifles if you utilize a magazine.
Yet another absolutely amazing review Andy. I actually really like that one, I probably shouldn't but I really do.
Gone are the days of the Briton mk1 Gat My very first Gun You used to push the front of the barrel down on the floor to cock it lol not very powerful but great fun back in the 80's
Hatsan put all the goodies on this rifle and then don't put in a regulator (something I'd want with a choke).
If there's one criticism I have for your reviews it's that lack of spread figures. A good spread = better repeatability. So please can you start to include them Andy.
Admittedly this monster isn't likely to wimp out over the course of a tin, but if pellets are unsized then a choke can bite into the spread.
Keep up with the "budget" reviews please! These should almost be called " Profit Margin Rifles"
You've sold it to me, thanks
Surely this should give some of the upmarket "trendy" manufacturers pause for thought. You can readily pay nearly 3 times this price for a similar style of rifle and still have reliability issues if some of the owner reviews are anything to go by.
Would love one of these but SWMBO has already told me that I don't need one! We'll see - maybe. As always a great review - keep it up, it's what Friday is all about.
Go on buy one ? You know you want one lol... Tell her it's half price in a sale 😂🤞🤞🍀
Man this is another exact and enjoyable review from my man Andy! Love the look of this one and I'm NOT a "bottle gun" lover by any means. I'm not sure if its the color or what but this rifle is sharp looking!
Hi Andy thanks for another great budget rifle and on one from Hatsan that really looks impressive ,you have just added another one to think about when I go and buy from the guys at Vector Air ,as I can't seem to find a good airgun shop here in Stratford upon Avon since leaving my home town Coalville in Leicestershire.
I live in Stratford too! Try Becketts farm gunshop on the way back to Brum, they sell these. I might get one myself.
@@OffGridMadMan thanks for the reply I will give them go
The mag would be fantastic in a barn full of feral pigeons, my single shot Daystate can be hard work by the time you’ve shot 100! This has to be Bargain of the Century!
Love your reviews but why are so many air rifles got the AR look I prefer a nice bit of wood or a nice synthetic stock like the BSA R10
Greetings from Down Under.
i bought one a couple of months ago the only thing i have found an issue is the bipod mount no matter how much you tighten it it loosens off, i'm going to have to think of a way of fixing it so it doesn't move again. but that's my only negative.
"Budget PCP rifle"? Not over here in Finland. €750 easily. And most found in .25 (full power though). And the regulated version costs around €1000, or more...
Been watching at these lately. Loved the looks instantly. But the local price for a Hatsan.. Ouch.. And many seem to think Hatsans as a bit crappy - depending on model, I guess...
nah, they are considdered to be a bit crappy. Depends. Either you get a good one, or you got the wrong one. Over here people prefer Kral over Hatsan, cheaper but better quality
@@ronheeringa6158 Aaand here is one to confirm what I thought I've read about them Hatsans before. 😁👍 Good or bad - depending on just kinda luck..
Not really familiar with the Krals either - but I have at least seen a few of them.. and with pretty happy owners too.
@@brorjordas1979 ive only have a hatsan (the cheapest one) springer and its horrible. the plastic is cracked in allot of places, it came with rust out of the box, and its recent development is that the safety doesnt work anymore. (i never took it apart but i have a feeling its looking terrible in there)
perhaps im asking to much from a budget rifle but that experience makes me look at other brands.
@@ronheeringa6158 I had the option of getting the Hatsan Factor or the Kral Jumbo Hi-Cap; Both look VERY similar in design, though the Kral costs about £130 more than the Factor.
I had the option of trying both out before buying and they're both good rifles, which are equally good value for money and in my mind, worth it.
One of the main reasons I chose the factor, was due to its being within my budget at the time, whereas the Kral was not.
Given the choice and funds to choose again? It would be like flipping a coin :)
@@Frietpan Ouch! Your Hatsan experience has then not been that good.. I only own one springer. It is a Crosman Phantom. I use it when want hard shots at longer ranges. Has worked way good all these years.. But after this comment of yours - I bet I would not buy myself a Hatsan springer..
Nice video and this rifle I never get tired of I have it in 6.35 it's very good for the price
Nice rig but don’t care much for the looks of the bottle. Easily fixed with a clip on cover that makes it looks authentic. Send that to Hatsan Andrew!
I love to buy one
So, instead of counting sheep,we count pellets... have you fallen asleep while loading the mag🤣🤣
Thats a very nice gun, it may have liked a lighter pellet. 👍😎👍
Indonesia is here uncle
Now i like this!!👍
Nice gun .....
Very nice 👌 👍
Hi sir have a question that airgun can't you chipping other countries
Just put a deposit on one at my local shop. Roll on payday lol. Cheers for the review squire.
Awsome vid again Andy you keep hitting them out the ball park. Anybody know what are the best pellet guns on amazon U.S., if there are any I'm new to this and looking for a good .22 rifle and decent scope but unaware about what an all around gun and scope should have. Thanks in advance
One of the few i like be nice if you could get in say .25 or .30
Is it regulated? Carbon tank and a CZ barrel that would rock
Good video
Were they in the 500 to 600 price range months ago all i can find is $999 us
Andy, thank you, and your mates (they call their friends "mates") involved in helping you, thanks, from across the pond, for offering me valuable guidance in my entrance to this hobby. On top of the knowledge, because you are so charismatic, charming, apparently intelligent, funny, apparently-reasonably law-abiding and fastidious to detail, and able to keep comments a safe distance from politics without scolding viewers, it lends the entire hobby an elevated air of legitimacy. I can't imagine how much time and money this consumes, this public service you provide, but I know you wouldn't do it if it didn't at least pay you back with pride and satisfaction. You are obviously a steward of the hobby. It just kills me that your nation restricts you so tightly in energy. Between you and me, given how responsible and competent you are, in my opinion it would not be that unethical for you when the camera is off to accidentally indulge in a few more foot pounds, off the record. Cheers.
@William Tell I hope you at least say cheers, don't you? Just some friendly irreverence, pardon me, of course neither all Brits nor all Americans use the same anything including terminology. Fortunately for me at least, when learning from this channel, I believe we still are on the same page when it comes to the foot and the pound.
@@DougSimmonsYay we use newton meters (i think) but so many manuals and documents etc are in foot pounds like when torquing car parts n stuff that its hard to say if we have a definite measurment
@@DougSimmonsYay also yes its sad we are so restricted ):
I suspect it's intended more for FAC levels of power. The length and shot count are probably overkill for UK sub-12ftlbs.
M-E-G-A O V E R K I L L!
Would like to see a comparison with the Walther rotex RM8 UC. In price alone it's a competitor..
So difficult to decide which one is ideal for my first PCP. Love your channel and reviews.
10:27 I think you killed a few bunnies with that one! lol.
wow looks really cool hmm i maybe have to get one :)
Hmm nice but I still think I would choose a Gamo GX40. I love the added range time your filming these days, nice addition to the reviews mate. ATB MMMD
If you get a chance I would like suggestions for those of us who are left
handed. Does that mean we are working in our right brains?
I like this rifle, but I am put off buying it by the exposed barrel, if they sold an upgrade kit with full enclosed barrel with rails like the Sig MCX I would swap my Rotex for one
This one looks nice😎 I've wanted hatsan blitz for couple years now but ammo prices kinda steer me other way especially after smg22 malfunctions going off when it jammed& I put safety on then went to set it down then brrrratttt 4rounds went off towards neighbors house😡💩 that one jammed to much so I trade it in for dragonclaw single shot. 50cal you only need one shot if your decent shot. This one r 22 version I'd like to try someday😎🤘
the hatsan factor or the Benjamin Gunnar? Im stuck between the two.
Like the Video. Maybe next time review a Kral when reviewing a budget pcp.
Great review and probably my perfect purchase.
This does look tempting. And the fact that bolt holds back on empty.
That looks like a fun bit of kit but I'm betting I can't have one in Australia. It certainly wouldn't be worth the hassle if so :(
Only fault with mine is a wobbly bipod mount
I am selling my gladius to buy this by years end .I am not selling g my ATP2 which I love .
Love your channel
When you buy a new pcp does it come pre charged
1st
Been watching at these lately. Would like one - despite it being a Hatsan. But the price over here... Nah.
Good morning, how are you ?
Good morning!
I'm all good, thank you for asking. How are you?
Have watched many vids of this rifle lately. I liked the looks of it right from the start. Many just do not seem to like Hatsan, and thinks it is often quite a crappy brand. But personally dunno. Some can be good. This one just costs around €750 over here in Finland - and I've only found them in .25cal. And the regulated version costs over €1000 easily. It is no budget PCP rifle over here.
@@brorjordas1979 hi, iam doing OK thank you. Its raining here yuk.
Yes a smart looking Rifle, you get lots of extras. Big shot count.
I like hatsan, they are impressive for the price. I would buy one. Have a super weekend 🙏😃👍🏻👌🏻
@@simonnoble7589 We've had some rain lately also. Better now. Not sunny, but blue n grey all day..😁
I'd gladly buy one of these for sub €500.. But about €800 is getting a bit high for me.. A semi-auto function to it - and I could have concidered it more for the price.
@@simonnoble7589 I have never held a Hatsan so I can't say a thing about them really. Just read some negative commemts about the brand lately.. As an example; the Blitz seemed cool imo- but many said them to be plasticky - and they cost about €1000 over here. Many Hatsans seemingly have had quality issues.. But a friend of mine owns a Hatsan BT-65, and it seems to do coin size groups at 50 metres. Just seen a picture of that rifle and the group on the target - never actually seen it in person. Concidered once to buy one myself - but I prefer military styled airguns more - hence I now own the Virtus instead.
My experience was good for about three or four rounds of pellets. After that the gun start losing air somewhere by the trigger, cannot charge anymore.
I found the valve on the bottle/filling port not sure which is prone to sticking. Usually clears if I attempt to refill a couple of times. I suspect it needs bedding in same as much of the gun.
I HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEM. SOMETIMES LEAKS AIR AND SOMETIMES NOT. FRUSTRATING BECAUSE CHECKED ALL SEALS, USED BALLOONS ON FILLER PROBE, MANOMETER ETC. EVEN USED SOAPY WATER !! BUT RIFLE I LOVE IT. ANY ADVICE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
purrrfect ^=.=^ ... at least for the small purse ^^
no carbine version????
love this channel
Hi don’t mind me asking what best small pcp rifle
Mantap bro
I like the look of the rifle. Sadly the only thing that lets it down for me is that oversized magazine. It's too big and in my opinion, doesn't look right. It seems out of proportion with the rest of the gun
It is pretty large, but the high capacity definitely works in your favor.
people have designed and sold custom magazines for other air rifles, so I wouldn't be surprised is someone designs a custom version thats a little less "in your face" and sells it on ebay sometime in the future :)
Fair point about a custom built magazine. But I would imagine that the gun would have to sell very well before someone invested the time and money to develop a less intrusive magazine
Can I get any of these guns online it from the USA
ANOTHER GREAT REVIEW , BUT ALAS I NEED TO SEE WOOD ON A GUN...
I'm just the opposite & hate wooden / laminate gun stocks
My only complaint is the FDE finish does mark when you fit anything to the rails. So it's not the most robust finish
Same goes with the black, I'm serously thinking about spraying it with a protective matte clear laquer
@@GaisaSanktejo I wanted black but fde was the only one I could get.. Pleased thou
@@RogueBrit I managed to get the black version (didn't care for fde) and am pleased too, though as you mentioned, the paint finish marks way too easily, hence my idea of using a protective matte laquer
Probably a stupid noobie question but can these tanks be filled at a petrol station or something I don't really want the expense of a compressor or don't have the room for one either