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Mate you have some of the coolest videos on youtube I have watched a ton of them, I really like the style of these videos and you always find cool stuff that other people don’t talk about
@@cv4809 They speak chinese and yoruba, also the macedonians have bulgarian and afrikan names just like the ancient macedonians who talked swahili and oromo and the famous filipov and alexandrov.
Thanks you Sir I have learned a lot from your anicent empires podcasts in very good details and yes I'm very glad that I found your channel, I'm your fan from north Iraq Kurdistan duhok city. I'm kurd median deceendent i wish someone would make podcast about the median empire existence around 600bc. There is no podcast about the meds, only few short videos. Thanks again have nice day and stay safe ... and I hope Americans will stand as one against bad cops.
Very cool. I am interested in the history of the Medes, but I would have to do some additional research before putting together an episode on the Median Empire. I too hope that thee are some serioius changes in police culture, although I am not very optimistic.
@@ThersitestheHistorian thanks for your responses I am glad to hear that you already are interested in median empire, I and all the meds/kurds will be very thankful to you if you are ever going to make an episode on median empire, I would love to help but unfortunately I dont know much about the median empire...cant wait to hear such podcast I will definitely share it with my community. God bless America and bring peace and unity.
Great video. Though out of curious why didn't you mention Orestis? While I understand that it wasn't "royal" in the same way Lynkestis was it held a similar position to Lynkestis, and several very important characters of Macedonian history were from there such as Philip's assassin, Perdikkas, and Seleukos.
Great vid. Ideas for future videos: Greekness of Macedon and that guy Mezziwig, more about Ptolemy, life and times of Olympias. Did she have big tomb raider lips? niiiice
@@ThersitestheHistorian Well, i know 3 ancient macedonian 🇬🇷 scholars , Hermagoras, Craterus, Alexarchos among others , whose scripts were saved by others, or they are mentioned by others. For example i liked utopist Alexarchos a lot
The story of the Macedonians begins with their being descended from the Dorian tribe. The Dorians were comprised of the Macedonians and Spartans. Based on the evidence, only an unreasonable person or a denier of reality would argue that the Macedonians were';t Hellenes. Alexander believed he was the progeny of Archilles. The Macedonias are more responsible than any other Greek group for the Hellenistic Age. Finally, the initial 'C' in Chalcedon is silent, and the word is pronouced as an 'H'. It said Halkidiki, even thouugh, to this day it spelled Chalkidiki. Thessaliniki can also be referred to as Salonica. A name that was less Greek sounding. Thessaliniki, even by English speakers is 'Thess Sala niki'. That was also of Alexander's sister's name.
@@zazazazizizi6276 they aren't Bulgarian like the nowdays north "Macedonians", take an ethological map and see yourself, or take a DNA test, but I doubt that you would do such thing.
@@Craterus123 Greece is in the green zone , Spain and Portugal carry the most which isn't even a significant amount considering that it's not over 3%, Greece has 1 % like almost every European country. Ur funny :P
What about the cities of Engelina, Stubera (i.e. "Pillar" city, latinized 'Stybera'), Bylazora, Pelagonia, Gortinia, Ulpiana, etc...? And it's Amfipoliteon (see the coins) not "Amphipolis"!
"Amphipoliteon" (/Amphipoliton) means "of the Amphipoliteans". It's common in ancient Greek drachmas to say whose coin it was. So it's always "of X", the X being the king or the people of the city. In this case it's the latter.
Pelagonia was inhabited by people of Epirotan stock before being absorbed. Amphipolis was originally an Athenian city built in Thrace. Paeonia was not part of the kingdom either. It was taken though expansion to the north. Ulpiana was a Roman city whose ruins can be found in Kosovo.
@@AthrihosPithekos - And what about today Polog valley, homonym of the ancient city of Pelagia? You see - you fake "greex" cannot decently fake yourself, imagine history...
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD Relating Polog to Pelagia is clearly and unquestionably paretymology. All the ancient names of the region were completely unknown to the average illiterate Yugoslav peasant. They survived thanks to the orthodox church based at Constantinople and it's diocese since the Roman state did not fully recognise loss of land to the Yugoslav newcomers of the north and their overlords and thought that by using ancient names it legitimised its presence. A good example is the "Archbishopry of Prima Justiniana and all of Bulgaria" based at Ohrid (another Slavic and therefore non ancient name).
Wrong. Thracians are a Hellenic tribe - hence the region THRACE. Plus some leftovers in for example Philippopolis in Bulgaria etc. As well as Macedonians are a Hellenic tribe as well - hence the region Macedonia which once included Paeonia as well of course in the past.
Xena the Warrior Princess was from Amphopolis. During the Persian War she singlehandedly defeated the Persian avangard, saving Amphopolis and stoping the invasion altogether.
Let's not get too carried away. Xena's slaying of Mardonios was a key moment in the Battle of Plataia, but since she didn't do this until 479, I wouldn't say that she "stopped" the invasion.
Talking about Macedon in Filips time, Greece got absolutely noting at all to do. Greece was not invented, Greece is new country, of 190years existence, created be English Monarchy and ruled be German Bavarian King, So you explain first this then you talk about. Greece: (OTTO THE FIRST AND THE ONLY ONE KING OF GREECE. German Bavarian: Otto Fredrich Ludwig von Bayern, 1 June 1815 - 26 July 1867 AD) was a first Bavarian Prince as a King who Ruled Greece from the establishment of the monarchy on 27 May 1832, under the Convention of London, until he was deposed on 23 October 1862. Prove me if I'm wrong. The history is gone up to shit.
It s stupid even to claim that new bulgaralbanian ,former Ygoslavian state, of Sopjia or FYROM or slavik North Macedonia has anything to do with real ancient greek Macedonia, the aria at N.Greece that is still called Macedonia ,where all the ancients macedonians facts is found. Tito told a farytale to bulgars and albanians for politikal reasons and they believed it. ...And the world laugths when the ...fski called slavs the , ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ -ALEXANDROS, ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΊΑ -MACEDONIA( Both greek names,as ancient and modern capital of Macedonia ,Thessaloniki, also greek nsme, as everything regarding the history of Fillip( also greek) and Alexander. Who could take them seriously?
Macedonia is a great history lesson but you have to start from the beginning. It was ruled by King Balthazar of the Three Orientalen (Blacks) and ruler of Mohren Menschen (Black People). It was a very powerful Indiër (Nword or Arian) country. Great story if you know the language. They were Heiden (Blacks, Pagans).
Amazing what Philip 2 was able to do,considering the other Greek states looked at it like a backwater! Was the language of Macedon unintelligible to other Greeks? Alexander spoke in his native language when he quarreled with Clytuss the Black. So other Greeks could not understand. Great video!
I mean Qin and Macedon were both backwater nations existing on borderlines of their respective civilizations that then under a single ruler turned into a powerhouse that managed to unify all other states of that civilization for the first time in history and then conquered large parts of the rest of known world, only to collapse shortly afterwards
The comparison still has contrition. Qin fought various kingdoms of equal and larger arable size. The principle reason for the successful campaigns being the careful cultivation of the recent conquest in the SiChuan Basin flood plains that permitted increasingly distant campaigning without stain to the already fragile homelands. To this day, the world's largest pre-industrial dam complex is located in DuJiangYan, outside ChengDu, designed by a Qin governor and architect and chiefly responsible for the domestication of the wild Min river and tributaries. Still in use with rock filter bamboo baskets that sift out silt and debris for drinking [though this has been replaced with modern implements]. From the agricultural surplus, Qin generals were free to operate in the open, gain ground, and build outposts that were well within logistical distance. Even when a battle was lost, the denial of enemies having an equivalent capacity cut others short of capitalizing on victory with long sieges or capture of strategic locations. This is very different to the rapid Alexandrian conquests.
If I use internet and speak English, it doesn`t mean that I am American. Lusathian Sorbs are living in area around Cottbus, south west from Berlin, speak German, pay taxes in Germany, but they are still Slavs. Aleksander has hated Greeks more than Persians. Yes, he has had classical Greek school (Aristoteles). But also in old Roman culture was big influence, first by Etrusci, after than by Greeks. In both way - old Romans and old Macedonians - Greeks have influenced with culture, but than were defeated and conquered by their student. Of course also Etrusci. But that doesn`t mean that both were of Greek origin. If I drive Korean car, am I Korean?
You guys (citizens of the modern country of Macedonia) need to stop with this nationalistic view of ancient Macedon. Is being partially descendant from them not good enough for you? why try to whitewash them into something they clearly weren't?
@@GarlicOasis Their view is not nationalistic, it's irredentist and delusional but they can't help but make up stuff that aren't true because otherwise their country would have no reason to exist and it would be divided between neighboring ones, mainly Bulgaria and Albania but also Greece and Serbia since all of their people are either Slavs, Albanians and with a smaller Greek minority.
@@Proud2bGreek1 What would be your opinion, when someone claim, that your land has to be theirs? Your ancestors have done the same, what you are accusing North Macedonians about.
@@bojanstare8667 I don't understand your question. Try to rephrase it in actual English and I'll do my best to answer it. My ancestors have reclaimed much of the land that during ancient times was Greek. Not all of it but most of it. Nobody is accusing the Skopjan Bulgarians of doing this, only that they harbor irredentist claims over what is not theirs to take.
@@Proud2bGreek1 First, they aren`t Bulgarians. Second, your answer is tipical "Greeks". So the Greeks statement is: Greece is state ofparts in Italy, France, Turkey, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Slovenia, Albania etc.?
One question. If the Macedonians were Greeks, then why the Alexander's sister name means "Bright Sun" in the modern Macedonian language (that is Slav) and nothing in Greek? Did the Macedonian "Greeks" have a time machine and knew that the Slavs would invade them 10 centuries later?
Her name was thessaloniki meaning victory of the thessalians in both ancient and modern greek and she got her name after Phillip's victory with the thessalians in the battle of crocus field 😉
I would highly recommend the game Hegemony Gold: Wars of Ancient Greece to anyone interested in the era of Philip II. You can conquer all these cities and more leading Philip's army.
Alx You do not yet realize your importance, the Athenians have foreseen this, join us and we can put an to this destructive conflict and we can be once again Macedonians in Macedonia, if you only knew the power of united Macedonia. Languages: Macedonian Greek, Macedonian Slav Denonym: Macedonian Capital: Thessaloniki Population: 5 million Flag: Vergina sun Half Red, Half Blue.
@@unseen23221 it was proposed at some point that Thessaloniki would become a separate state but it would be a predominantly Jewish state (the city itself was about 50% Jewish although there aren't almost at all outside the city), as Jews would be moved there instead of ending up in Israel. Later on, the Communists tried that too, which led to the Republic of Macedonia, modern North Macedonia. But confederate multinational states don't really work out. The multinational Ottoman empire collased, Jugoslavia collapsed as well as the nearby Chechoslovakia and USSR. Even tiny Cyprus suffered an invasion and a division in two states. Israel is having issues with Palestinians. States and borders are fine as they are now. No need for irredentism, revisionism and...well...war.
That would be great, but as for now both native slavic Macedonians and native Greek Macedonians are denying mutually their existence and creating a plenty of hating propaganda, so it is never going to happen XD
@@mareksagrak9527 Greek Macedonians were newcomer in Macedonia. Before them were there Slavic Macedonian. Greeks have first conquered them. After that have claimed against revisionism. What kind of behavior is that? Standard Greeks behavior.
@@bojanstare8667 Telling "Macedonian Greeks" I do not reffer to the refugee population which is now dominating in the region of so called by you Aegean Macedonia (75%) but to native Macedonian Greeks who lived there before for centuries (now they can number something about 15%, hard to say), alongside with Macedonian Slavs (now 10% of the region, diminished by persecutions carried out by the Greek government). Greeks lived in Macedonia a lot of time before Slavs arrived there, and in spite of different historical events, the massive settlements of Slavic tribes like Dragouvites, Sagudates who ruled the area for some time etc. they never ceased to exist there. In 1900, before the Balcanic Wars and other disasters, the population of Aegean Macedonia (the former ancient Macedonia) looked as follows, according to Vasil Kanchov: 35% Slavs (Florina/Lerin Kilkis/Kukush, the region of former ancient Pella/Postoł, Edessa/Voden and many more) 27 % Turks 23 % Greeks (Roumlouki, which is the central part of former ancient Macedonia proper, where ancient Aigai is located (then there were villages Barbesh and Kutlesh - names obviously Slavic but lived there exclusively Greeks) Chalkidiki, Darnakochoria, Serres, Veria, Naoussa (a mixed Greek-slavic Town) Kozani, Siatista..) And also a lot of Vlachs (Vermio, Vlasti, Samarina, Skra, etc.). As you See, in the former ancient Macedonia Slavs were only 1,5 times more numerous than Greeks and the region was multiethnical and never fully Slavic. Thats why I give the right to call themselves as Macedonians to both Slavs and Greeks, on the condition that they know they are native to this region. To create a straightforward link between the ancient Macedonians and any modern nation is an absurdal thing. If they were a distinctive nation, we can be sure that they partially got hellenized and then partially got slavisized through centuries.
Iphicrates spent most of his time in either Athens or Thrace and I'm unaware of him having any particular links with the democratic leadership of Thebes.
Philps lover was Pausanias who insulted Attalus' lover who was also named Pausanias. Attalus' retaliation for the insult of his lover was to rape the lover of Philip (Pausanias of Orestis). Philips lover then got mad and killed Philip...as I understand it....
@@tassiek2450 As Macedonia was never a Greek-city state or a state or a Greek province or a Greek colony. Ancient Macedonian share very few with Ancient Greek. Just commercial links. They're not inter-breeded with Greeks.
@@hulking_presence People who aren't christian and do not know about the real meaning call it as that. We don't use latin anymore. Also many other religions have other ways of chronology, some are a lot more complext and are not made up of just 2 divisions. Take the Puranic Chronology of hinduism as an example. They take time as Cyclic, occuring again and again in a time span of 12000 divine years. It is seperated into 4 yugas. We are in the Kali yuga. Meanwhile, Buddhists believe the beginning of this world and of life is inconceivable since they have neither beginning nor end. Buddhists believe that the world was not created once upon a time, but that the world has been created millions of times every second and will continue to do so by itself and will break away by itself. Stop making such comments on how you christians use common era and others don't. You sound like a bozo.
Theodor Monsen : The survivors of the Ilyrians aree the Albanians. Kelly Miller : The Balkans battelfield is exactly yhe center of world history. Wadham Peacok : The mann who marched to Babylon Persia and India were the ancestprs of the Albanians. Nikolla Jorga The Albanian people together and the Basques one are the oldest in Europe. Joseph Saliger The Epiroticlanguage of the past is the Albanian language of Today. Branislav Nusic : The Albanians are indigenious, who during all the agitations managed to save their character and even emphazised it.They resisted on Romans attacks and survived the Slavic migrations. Edith Durham : They are strewn with the wrecage of dead Empires passt Powers only the Albanian go on forever. Robert Gordon Latham : Macedonia and Thracia were Albanians/ Skipetaria. Franz Bopp : Albanian is the oldest indoeuropean language. Alphonse de Lamartine : Albanians this nation and this people can not be mocked . This is the land of Heros of all time . Hopmer found there Achiles the Greeks the Alexander the Great Turks found Skanderbeg people these of the same race,the same blood. Maurico Druon : Albanians belong to the nations who are older than the History and the Grandfathers of Albanians took part in the Troy War,ruled by Hector on one part and by Achilles on the other part. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : Albanian is the old language of the Pelasgien and Ilyrians. Sir Edwin Pears : Albanians are the descendants of the oldest race in the Balkanic Peninsula an Aryan race, Even the word Aryan in their Language means : ^^ Pure Gold ^^. Maximilian Lambretz : The tru History of the humanity will be written only when it will be written with the participation of Albanians. Jovan Cvijic South Slavs after arrived in the Balkans found there the Albanians who under their presuere (Slavs) retreted southward and to most mountains areas. Holger Pedersen : The Albanian language is the oldest tool for elighttenement and more progress.It is a powerful and beautiful language that should be the pride of its speakers and sacred tool for the cultural and intellect development of the ancient Albanian Nation. Edvin Jacques : Ilyrians or Albanians , those tirelessness sonns , were warriors of the Albania Ethnic Ancestors of Achilles , Philip, Alexander the Great Pyrros of Epirous. Johan Georg von Hahn The Albanian derives from Ilyrians and the Ilyrians derives from Pelasgian one. Henri Barisford : In Macedonia Albanians are the only indogenous people. Kelly Miller : The Albanians are wild daring mountainers and have never recognized the sove rignty of the Sultan.General Niox : The Albanians are of Pelasgien origin-they are considered one of the most beautiful and courageous races.Gustav Meyer : The Albanian language is the oldest language in Europe. Herbert David : Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkans, and they are the gooetters of the mountains from very ancient times, they are the descendants of the ancient Pellazgia. No other race has a valid claim to the territories of the Albanians. Lord Byron : Albanians with their costumes make a most wonderful scenery in the world. Albanians are the most beautiful human race exists,courageous,stronger than their strongholds. Konstandin Paparigolus : Only the Albanians are considerded descendands of the Ilyrian-Pelazzgien race. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz If you want to discower they History before Christ and the the sciences at that time you have to lern the Albanian language. Lord Byron : They are the most beautiful creatures that my eyes have ever seen-The Albanian female grant her body and her heart only to one Man. ^^ Alexander the Great was influenced to apreeminent degree by his backround.Sprung according to tradotion,from Heracles and Achilles,he was of Greek descent,but from both parents he had Ylirian Albanian Blood. Charles Alexander Robinson 1949. The Albanian are descended from the ancient Pelasgi .They are a proud and martial people.and have but littlesympathy either with Greks,against both of whom they have frequently fought under Turkish generals,Indeed they havepreserved a sort os semi-Indenpedence ever since the days of Phyrrus .Whom as well as Alexander the Great they claim as their Countrymann. George Henry Lewes 1866 . Albanians are the descendands of Ylirien,Macedonian and Epirotes ,who were the offspring of the Pelasgiens.They are noted for their Indepedence persistence,strong sense of honor:caution hospitality,respected for womannhood,bravery loyality,and keen apreciation of poetry:and have produced some of the most noted Leaders of History.Alexander the Great Leka i Madhe Pyrrhus,Scanderbeg,Ali Pasha of Janina, Mehmet Ali Pasha , of Egypt,the Italian Statsmann Crispi,Papa Clement XXI etc. William Chamberlin Hunt , Edwin MunsellBlisa 1919 . Isac Don Lewin ^^ Alexander the Great is thought by some to have been Albanian.Pyrrhus , the greatest soldier of his time , was an Albanian. Joseph K. Greene 1916 The Albanians are an Aryan race,first now as Pelasgiens,but called Illyrians by the Romans ,with 25,000 Albanian soldiers Alexander Leka i madh conqured Asia. Demetra Vaka ^^ The Albanians had constituded the phalanxes of Alexander the Great ^^ Pyrrhus ,Alexanderthe Great , Scanderbeg were of that race. Alfred Emanuel Smith 1916 ^^ The Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkan peninsula-the descendants of the ancient Pelasgiens and Ylirians.Allthought a small race,they have given to the world several great men,including Pyrrhus,Alexander Leka i madhe,Saint Jerome,Constantine the Great,Pope ClementxI,and Crispi^^ Robert Gordon ^^ The Skipetar ,Epirot,Arnaut,Arvanitas,Arberesh or Albanian of Albania was the language of the ancient Ilyrians perhaps the language of the bulk of the Macedonians a language perhaps of the whole of ancient Greeceand a language which was almost certainly spoken far to the north , the east and the north-eastof its present frontiers^ Louis Herbert Gray - Juwenile ^^ The relation of Macedonia tp Greak is uncertain, Scholars regarding it is a Ylirian Dialect^^Nicholas Geoffrey Lempriere Hamond 1976 ^^ Other tribal groups in what we now call Macedonian spoke non-Greek languages such as Ylirian Thracian languages. if it is not Inoff tell me i Have alot of Facts. One thing more the Studie from Cavalli Sforza : But if the Albanians are not Illyrians, who are they? The geneticist Cavalli Sforza 1997 carried out a study on the genetic data of European populations obtained by using the classifications of blood groups and the DNA markers relating to the Y chromosome. His conclusions, now universally accepted, have contributed decisively to reconstructing the historical and geographical evolution of the human gender. Well according to Cavalli Sforza the Albanians would be the most ancient people of Europe.
Yes there are in the Balkan remains of Sanskrit ancient language classified separately as Indo- European . And the Indo- European is most preserved in Albanian language . But it was never called Albanian in ancient times !
I always thought that Herodotus' emphasis on Macedonian Greekness was some sort of interpolation from the Hellenistic period. I even talked about this with my mentor and he said that that actually can be the case but we do not have substantial evidence to confirm that. It kinda makes sense if the story about Ptolemy III confiscating the whole Athenian library and all books that come to Egypt is true. However, I read both Thucydides and Herodotus a long time ago so I can't remember whether these two historians had a different take on the Macedonians (I think Thucydides actually wrote around 4-5 pages about them...)
Till 1989 y. it was dengeros to say Macedonia or Macedonian in Greece. After that become a new greeks history.Greeks become Helleniks,Macedoniаns,ets. And the name became Hellenik Repablic of greece!!!
Phillip the II was killed in the wedding of his daughter not his own. Please also check the pronunciation of the Greek names. Its a shame such a beautiful video to loose due to the bad pronunciation of Greek names
Macedonia (the Greek region) is almost 100% Christian, while North Macedonia (the independent country) is 70% Christian and 30% Muslim. Combined, the two Macedonias have a population of 2.3 million Christian Greeks, 1.4 million Christian North Macedonians and 600,000 Albanian Muslims. There exist some Catholics, Jews and Jehova's Witnesses, but their numbers are extremely low.
@Jd Pv "Long live German kind ottos Name creator of Greace and name in 1829 AD." Apart from making no sense grammatically, your comment is also factually incorrect and completely out of topic. When Otto, prince of Bavaria, was invited to become king of Greece, the Greek state had already been established by Ioannis Kapodistrias. You also got the date wrong. Otto became king in 1832.
Macedonia is a region in the north of Greece, pseudo-Macedonia will never be a full-fledged state. Why steal a name from the Greeks? after all, the Greeks have given so much good to the world. This is not human. It's a shame for big states that allow such injustice.
It's just Herodot who said that Macedonian have "Greek" origin. After Salamine war between Greece an Persia , when Greece won the war with the supply of Macedonian timber for ship construction, etc ... wich allowed Greece to win. Then Herodot, to thanks Macedonia, "invented" suddenly, coming from nowhere, an obscure (I should says pretty stupid concept : Why Greek from Argos would go in the north, cold climate, malaria infested area,...) Greek origin, and more , divine origin...Whaow !!! What a flatter, that dear Herodot... Plutarch : Macedonian come General Argea ...
The whole world knows that the Macedonians were of Greek doric stock, this dispute has ended long ago. How can people who speak a Slavic language, people who don't live in Macedonia, people who don't have Mediterranean skin tone, be Macedonian?
Pretty much every single Greek writer mentions Macedonians as Greek. Those who did not are people like Demosthenes and Thucydides.... 1) Demosthenes, an orator, a professional liar that is to be more exact, was a fanatical enemy of Philip II. He did not call in fact Macedonians as barbarians, he only called Philip II as "barbarian"' and merely on "cultural reasons" such as his preference for unwatered wine and drinking in big parties with his soldiers which was not up to the liking of Demosthenes. Really.... Oh... did I mention that he only rememembered to call him a "barbarian"' in his 3rd anti-Philip IIi speech? In the first two he never called him such. Which makes it even more hilarious!!!! 2) Thucydides.... he hated Macedonians far more than Demosthenes. While as a historian he strove to be moderated, in reality he failed and the instance was with Macedonians. Why? Because Macedonians destroyed his life. Read about how his famly (of aristocratic, yet tribally humble Thraecian, roots - LOL!) rose to become a major political family in Athens (great success) and how Thucydides rose to be elected a general. As general he was sent to Macedonia to protect the city of Amphipolis, then allied to Athens, but the Macedonians, allies of Spartans, got there first because Thucydides had underestimated their reactivity and military capabilities. The result? Thucydides was not just stripped from his generalship but also of his citizenship and was kicked out of Athens, never to return. Him and his family lived the rest of their lives in shame (possibly in relative poverty as well in relation to their position in Athens)... why? Because of Macedonians! LOL! The man hated them!.... So sometimes when he is angry he calles them "half-barbarians" or "barbarians".... but what is the most funny is that when he casually mentions them (i.e. forgetting he hates them!) he mentions them as a Greek tribe. Hahahahaha..... Seriously! You can't make that shit up!
I hate to ruin your fantasy but Greeks went and established states pretty much everywhere around the Mediterranean. I mean did you even see the video? It mentions many Greek city-states that later became part of Macedon. There were already Mycenean settlements in the region during the bronze age, many centuries before all these. Greeks had cities in Ukraine, lol. Plutarch pretty much agrees with Herodotus. I guess you haven't read him. I suggest reading his parallel Lives, with pairs of a Greek and a similar Roman. Read the pair of Alexander and Caesar!
@@dimitris_lev.8947 Dorians were not at all Greeks !!! They came from north, far away from Greece. The so-called Dorian BECAME Greeks once they settled in "Greece" and "mixed" with Mycenians and then made a new antropological type : Greek. The Macedonians (ancient) were not mixed with Myceneans, there is even not Mycenean site in Macedonia. Greece has much more legitimity on Scicilly, Calabria, ..(ancient colony that Macedonia was not !) than on Macedonia ! I even should say that Macedonia ( o.k, North Macedonia), historically, has more legitimity on Thessaly then Greece has !!! And don't make us more stupid we are by putting in our mouths your stupid theory and lye claimig that we say that Alexander was slavic speaking !!! You should maybe learn more about indo-european invasion in balkan
I'm very interested in the hellenized kingdoms in the east post-Alexander. Especially Greco-Bactria.
Indo-greek kingdom is interesting too. They ruled in North Central India and were the last independent Greek state when the fell in 10a.d.
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Mate you have some of the coolest videos on youtube I have watched a ton of them, I really like the style of these videos and you always find cool stuff that other people don’t talk about
Bruh Albanians claim they built every city in Greece too, doesn’t mean it’s true
"you don't want to f with Albanians."-Etno Engjujt
Nice Video, greetings from Macedonia 🇬🇷👍🏻
This is a really stupid question, What language is spoken in Macedonia today?
@@Dick_Interritus Bulgarian and Albanian
@@cv4809 Thanks! I hadn't even thought of Bulgarian for some reason.
@@cv4809 They speak chinese and yoruba, also the macedonians have bulgarian and afrikan names just like the ancient macedonians who talked swahili and oromo and the famous filipov and alexandrov.
@@Dick_Interritus They speak japanese and have madagascarian names and last names just like the famous aiko filipo and fujitsu alexandritsko
Thanks you Sir I have learned a lot from your anicent empires podcasts in very good details and yes I'm very glad that I found your channel, I'm your fan from north Iraq Kurdistan duhok city. I'm kurd median deceendent i wish someone would make podcast about the median empire existence around 600bc. There is no podcast about the meds, only few short videos. Thanks again have nice day and stay safe ... and I hope Americans will stand as one against bad cops.
Very cool. I am interested in the history of the Medes, but I would have to do some additional research before putting together an episode on the Median Empire.
I too hope that thee are some serioius changes in police culture, although I am not very optimistic.
@@ThersitestheHistorian thanks for your responses I am glad to hear that you already are interested in median empire, I and all the meds/kurds will be very thankful to you if you are ever going to make an episode on median empire, I would love to help but unfortunately I dont know much about the median empire...cant wait to hear such podcast I will definitely share it with my community. God bless America and bring peace and unity.
@@sultansaladin1135 cringe
Medians are very obscure in the archaeological record but widely referenced in literary evidence
Thank you for your great work other people shy away to talk about all this especially the greeks
Do you think Alexander The Great was inspired by the March of the 10,000?
Big time.
@WarLord Proudboy!
Xenophohn specifically mentions conquering all of Persia under Cyrus and appointing the mercenary captains as rulers.
Love the history lectures. Thank you
Thanks. That tidbit about Gabrielle was fascinating!
Hear, hear!
Hail, Thersites! Gabrielle's birth at Potidaia will be remembered with sacrifices to Persephone! May the blessings of Klio be with you!
Top-notch lecture. Concise and to the point.
Looking back on this series. It was great. Wish we had more
Great video. Though out of curious why didn't you mention Orestis? While I understand that it wasn't "royal" in the same way Lynkestis was it held a similar position to Lynkestis, and several very important characters of Macedonian history were from there such as Philip's assassin, Perdikkas, and Seleukos.
I forgot about Orestis. Damn.
Good job, well read!
will this be on the test?
But of course.
If only we had tests over this stuff...
Great vid. Ideas for future videos: Greekness of Macedon and that guy Mezziwig, more about Ptolemy, life and times of Olympias. Did she have big tomb raider lips? niiiice
When is the next episode of byzantine emperor's coming out ?
Would you recommend any ancient historian who talked about Macedonia and Alexander?
Arrian, Quintus Curtius Rufus, Plutarch, Diodorus Siculus and a little bit of Polyaenus.
@@ThersitestheHistorian Thank you!
@@ThersitestheHistorian
Well, i know 3 ancient macedonian 🇬🇷 scholars , Hermagoras, Craterus, Alexarchos among others , whose scripts were saved by others, or they are mentioned by others.
For example i liked utopist Alexarchos a lot
i love your work
The story of the Macedonians begins with their being descended from the Dorian tribe. The Dorians were comprised of the Macedonians and Spartans. Based on the evidence, only an unreasonable person or a denier of reality would argue that the Macedonians were';t Hellenes. Alexander believed he was the progeny of Archilles. The Macedonias are more responsible than any other Greek group for the Hellenistic Age. Finally, the initial 'C' in Chalcedon is silent, and the word is pronouced as an 'H'. It said Halkidiki, even thouugh, to this day it spelled Chalkidiki.
Thessaliniki can also be referred to as Salonica. A name that was less Greek sounding. Thessaliniki, even by English speakers is 'Thess Sala niki'. That was also of Alexander's sister's name.
Eh no !! Macedonian are not Hellenes and that is a reasonable evidence, and you know it ...
@@zazazazizizi6276 go get some sleep
@@zazazazizizi6276 they aren't Bulgarian like the nowdays north "Macedonians", take an ethological map and see yourself, or take a DNA test, but I doubt that you would do such thing.
@@dimitris_lev.8947 modern greeks have sub sahara genes lmao
@@Craterus123 Greece is in the green zone , Spain and Portugal carry the most which isn't even a significant amount considering that it's not over 3%, Greece has 1 % like almost every European country.
Ur funny :P
your map is wrong.
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What about the cities of Engelina, Stubera (i.e. "Pillar" city, latinized 'Stybera'), Bylazora, Pelagonia, Gortinia, Ulpiana, etc...? And it's Amfipoliteon (see the coins) not "Amphipolis"!
"Amphipoliteon" (/Amphipoliton) means "of the Amphipoliteans". It's common in ancient Greek drachmas to say whose coin it was. So it's always "of X", the X being the king or the people of the city. In this case it's the latter.
Pelagonia was inhabited by people of Epirotan stock before being absorbed. Amphipolis was originally an Athenian city built in Thrace. Paeonia was not part of the kingdom either. It was taken though expansion to the north. Ulpiana was a Roman city whose ruins can be found in Kosovo.
@@AthrihosPithekos - And what about today Polog valley, homonym of the ancient city of Pelagia? You see - you fake "greex" cannot decently fake yourself, imagine history...
@@jackdonith - Today corrupted transcription "Amphipolis" was in question, not its habitants!
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD Relating Polog to Pelagia is clearly and unquestionably paretymology. All the ancient names of the region were completely unknown to the average illiterate Yugoslav peasant. They survived thanks to the orthodox church based at Constantinople and it's diocese since the Roman state did not fully recognise loss of land to the Yugoslav newcomers of the north and their overlords and thought that by using ancient names it legitimised its presence. A good example is the "Archbishopry of Prima Justiniana and all of Bulgaria" based at Ohrid (another Slavic and therefore non ancient name).
Wrong. Thracians are a Hellenic tribe - hence the region THRACE. Plus some leftovers in for example Philippopolis in Bulgaria etc. As well as Macedonians are a Hellenic tribe as well - hence the region Macedonia which once included Paeonia as well of course in the past.
It was !
Xena the Warrior Princess was from Amphopolis. During the Persian War she singlehandedly defeated the Persian avangard, saving Amphopolis and stoping the invasion altogether.
Let's not get too carried away. Xena's slaying of Mardonios was a key moment in the Battle of Plataia, but since she didn't do this until 479, I wouldn't say that she "stopped" the invasion.
@@ThersitestheHistorian mardonios wasn't killed by a fictional character lol
Yeah boiiiiiiii
Macedonia 🇬🇷
I didn't know they found Phillip's body. That's so cool! ^-^
i'm of macedonian descent..so...thanks for this
LOL, Lara missed it!
did they smoke weed?
Talking about Macedon in Filips time, Greece got absolutely noting at all to do. Greece was not invented, Greece is new country, of 190years existence, created be English Monarchy and ruled be German Bavarian King, So you explain first this then you talk about. Greece: (OTTO THE FIRST AND THE ONLY ONE KING OF GREECE. German Bavarian: Otto Fredrich Ludwig von Bayern, 1 June 1815 - 26 July 1867 AD) was a first Bavarian Prince as a King who Ruled Greece from the establishment of the monarchy on 27 May 1832, under the Convention of London, until he was deposed on 23 October 1862. Prove me if I'm wrong. The history is gone up to shit.
You are an idiot by all standards
Alexander didn't win all of his battles, he lost at the Persian Gates
For people who claim they have never lost touch of their identity they sure know how to lose their language 🎪🇲🇰🎪
It s stupid even to claim that new bulgaralbanian ,former Ygoslavian state, of Sopjia or FYROM or slavik North Macedonia has anything to do with real ancient greek Macedonia, the aria at N.Greece that is still called Macedonia ,where all the ancients macedonians facts is found. Tito told a farytale to bulgars and albanians for politikal reasons and they believed it. ...And the world laugths when the ...fski called slavs the , ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ -ALEXANDROS, ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΊΑ -MACEDONIA( Both greek names,as ancient and modern capital of Macedonia ,Thessaloniki, also greek nsme, as everything regarding the history of Fillip( also greek) and Alexander. Who could take them seriously?
I'm now wondering if there is a 3rd Macedon.
Gabrielle!
Macedonia is a great history lesson but you have to start from the beginning.
It was ruled by King Balthazar of the Three Orientalen (Blacks) and ruler of Mohren Menschen (Black People).
It was a very powerful Indiër (Nword or Arian) country.
Great story if you know the language. They were Heiden (Blacks, Pagans).
Why is there so many insane people under this video?
@@hulking_presence I guess drugs and lack of Culture & education.
@@lordvonmanor6915 no, I mean, what pushed you to insanity?
@@hulking_presence I was going to ask you the same thing Komrade.
Did a Ukrainian hit you over the head?🤕
Wasn't Macedon basically the Qin of the West?
The work of Macedon was carried on by Rome, but the relationship (and geographical overlap) was not as great as the relationship between Qin and Han.
Amazing what Philip 2 was able to do,considering the other Greek states looked at it like a backwater! Was the language of Macedon unintelligible to other Greeks? Alexander spoke in his native language when he quarreled with Clytuss the Black. So other Greeks could not understand. Great video!
I mean Qin and Macedon were both backwater nations existing on borderlines of their respective civilizations that then under a single ruler turned into a powerhouse that managed to unify all other states of that civilization for the first time in history and then conquered large parts of the rest of known world, only to collapse shortly afterwards
Only Rome managed to unify the "West" of the antiquity.
The comparison still has contrition. Qin fought various kingdoms of equal and larger arable size. The principle reason for the successful campaigns being the careful cultivation of the recent conquest in the SiChuan Basin flood plains that permitted increasingly distant campaigning without stain to the already fragile homelands.
To this day, the world's largest pre-industrial dam complex is located in DuJiangYan, outside ChengDu, designed by a Qin governor and architect and chiefly responsible for the domestication of the wild Min river and tributaries. Still in use with rock filter bamboo baskets that sift out silt and debris for drinking [though this has been replaced with modern implements].
From the agricultural surplus, Qin generals were free to operate in the open, gain ground, and build outposts that were well within logistical distance. Even when a battle was lost, the denial of enemies having an equivalent capacity cut others short of capitalizing on victory with long sieges or capture of strategic locations.
This is very different to the rapid Alexandrian conquests.
If I use internet and speak English, it doesn`t mean that I am American. Lusathian Sorbs are living in area around Cottbus, south west from Berlin, speak German, pay taxes in Germany, but they are still Slavs. Aleksander has hated Greeks more than Persians. Yes, he has had classical Greek school (Aristoteles). But also in old Roman culture was big influence, first by Etrusci, after than by Greeks. In both way - old Romans and old Macedonians - Greeks have influenced with culture, but than were defeated and conquered by their student. Of course also Etrusci. But that doesn`t mean that both were of Greek origin. If I drive Korean car, am I Korean?
You guys (citizens of the modern country of Macedonia) need to stop with this nationalistic view of ancient Macedon. Is being partially descendant from them not good enough for you? why try to whitewash them into something they clearly weren't?
@@GarlicOasis Their view is not nationalistic, it's irredentist and delusional but they can't help but make up stuff that aren't true because otherwise their country would have no reason to exist and it would be divided between neighboring ones, mainly Bulgaria and Albania but also Greece and Serbia since all of their people are either Slavs, Albanians and with a smaller Greek minority.
@@Proud2bGreek1 What would be your opinion, when someone claim, that your land has to be theirs? Your ancestors have done the same, what you are accusing North Macedonians about.
@@bojanstare8667 I don't understand your question. Try to rephrase it in actual English and I'll do my best to answer it. My ancestors have reclaimed much of the land that during ancient times was Greek. Not all of it but most of it.
Nobody is accusing the Skopjan Bulgarians of doing this, only that they harbor irredentist claims over what is not theirs to take.
@@Proud2bGreek1 First, they aren`t Bulgarians. Second, your answer is tipical "Greeks". So the Greeks statement is: Greece is state ofparts in Italy, France, Turkey, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Slovenia, Albania etc.?
One question. If the Macedonians were Greeks, then why the Alexander's sister name means "Bright Sun" in the modern Macedonian language (that is Slav) and nothing in Greek? Did the Macedonian "Greeks" have a time machine and knew that the Slavs would invade them 10 centuries later?
You so stupid, it's not true 👎
Her name was thessaloniki meaning victory of the thessalians in both ancient and modern greek and she got her name after Phillip's victory with the thessalians in the battle of crocus field 😉
Come back to Bulgaria my disillusioned sibling, you’re only embarrassing yourself with your Tito made history.
Thank you for your series of lectures. I have learnt so much.
I choose to call it Makedonia
Me too. They growing mak, therefor it Is Makedonia or Makedonija.
As a balkaner i call it Makedonija
It's an american video so we call it muhseedawn
And we call Argos "owrgas"
Philip of massydon us actually a good thing
It means he was "on mass" meaning big and muscled
Antiochus The Great please
What Greek World !!!
Most interesting possible alt history is what if Alexander lived 30+ more years.
They should make new Xena worrier princess.
Yeah, but if they did it now Xena would be an overweight woman of color, and unambiguous in her sapphic persuasion.
What about the phocians and onomarchos, did phillip ever come back to them after his defeat by onomarchos?
He got even and reduced Phocia within a couple years of Onomarchos' victory.
Makedon
Makedonia
I would highly recommend the game Hegemony Gold: Wars of Ancient Greece to anyone interested in the era of Philip II. You can conquer all these cities and more leading Philip's army.
Is it like Pirate's Gold?
Gabrielle+Xena hottub scene
"I LIKE IT! I WANT IT!"
-Athenians on Potidaia.
Great video! Greetings from an Thessalonian. Θεσσαλονίκη μου λείπεις!
Alx You do not yet realize your importance, the Athenians have foreseen this, join us and we can put an to this destructive conflict and we can be once again Macedonians in Macedonia, if you only knew the power of united Macedonia.
Languages: Macedonian Greek, Macedonian Slav
Denonym: Macedonian
Capital: Thessaloniki
Population: 5 million
Flag: Vergina sun Half Red, Half Blue.
@@unseen23221 it was proposed at some point that Thessaloniki would become a separate state but it would be a predominantly Jewish state (the city itself was about 50% Jewish although there aren't almost at all outside the city), as Jews would be moved there instead of ending up in Israel. Later on, the Communists tried that too, which led to the Republic of Macedonia, modern North Macedonia. But confederate multinational states don't really work out. The multinational Ottoman empire collased, Jugoslavia collapsed as well as the nearby Chechoslovakia and USSR. Even tiny Cyprus suffered an invasion and a division in two states. Israel is having issues with Palestinians.
States and borders are fine as they are now. No need for irredentism, revisionism and...well...war.
That would be great, but as for now both native slavic Macedonians and native Greek Macedonians are denying mutually their existence and creating a plenty of hating propaganda, so it is never going to happen XD
@@mareksagrak9527 Greek Macedonians were newcomer in Macedonia. Before them were there Slavic Macedonian. Greeks have first conquered them. After that have claimed against revisionism. What kind of behavior is that? Standard Greeks behavior.
@@bojanstare8667 Telling "Macedonian Greeks" I do not reffer to the refugee population which is now dominating in the region of so called by you Aegean Macedonia (75%) but to native Macedonian Greeks who lived there before for centuries (now they can number something about 15%, hard to say), alongside with Macedonian Slavs (now 10% of the region, diminished by persecutions carried out by the Greek government).
Greeks lived in Macedonia a lot of time before Slavs arrived there, and in spite of different historical events, the massive settlements of Slavic tribes like Dragouvites, Sagudates who ruled the area for some time etc. they never ceased to exist there.
In 1900, before the Balcanic Wars and other disasters, the population of Aegean Macedonia (the former ancient Macedonia) looked as follows, according to Vasil Kanchov:
35% Slavs (Florina/Lerin Kilkis/Kukush, the region of former ancient Pella/Postoł, Edessa/Voden and many more)
27 % Turks
23 % Greeks (Roumlouki, which is the central part of former ancient Macedonia proper, where ancient Aigai is located (then there were villages Barbesh and Kutlesh - names obviously Slavic but lived there exclusively Greeks) Chalkidiki, Darnakochoria, Serres, Veria, Naoussa (a mixed Greek-slavic Town) Kozani, Siatista..)
And also a lot of Vlachs (Vermio, Vlasti, Samarina, Skra, etc.).
As you See, in the former ancient Macedonia Slavs were only 1,5 times more numerous than Greeks and the region was multiethnical and never fully Slavic.
Thats why I give the right to call themselves as Macedonians to both Slavs and Greeks, on the condition that they know they are native to this region.
To create a straightforward link between the ancient Macedonians and any modern nation is an absurdal thing. If they were a distinctive nation, we can be sure that they partially got hellenized and then partially got slavisized through centuries.
Nothing to do with "Grease" or "Greex". The Latin term "Graecus" was introduced by Romans two (2) centuries AFTER the death of Alexander the Great!
I thought Phillip got the phalangites from Iphicrates while a hostage in Thebes
Iphicrates spent most of his time in either Athens or Thrace and I'm unaware of him having any particular links with the democratic leadership of Thebes.
Philps lover was Pausanias who insulted Attalus' lover who was also named Pausanias. Attalus' retaliation for the insult of his lover was to rape the lover of Philip (Pausanias of Orestis). Philips lover then got mad and killed Philip...as I understand it....
Thumbs up for the Lara Croft reference!
Came for the history, stayed for the jokes.
Judging by some of the comments, ancient tribalism/nationalism is still alive and well, in fact, seething with hatred.
Yes indeed. Talking about any topic involving the Balkans seems to lead to some rather pointless ethnic debates.
I call it "educational", since you can start to get an idea when "race" debate will end in the United States.
Never.
Tribalism is perpetual.
@@OkurkaBinLadin And not just in the US. Tribalism is a world wide human trait.
the unfortunate poison of the ethnic nation-state
@@FlameQwert Ethnic? Seems more political.
Very interesting subject.the first macedonias were from Argos.plus successive migrations from the south made that possible
Plus Thessaly was never a Macedonians province.only during the time o Phillip were subjugated to Macedonia.
Not Argos in Peloponese, but Argos Orestide in MACEDONIA !!! ... Plutarch : Macedonian descent from General Argea, Macedonian ...
@@tassiek2450 As Macedonia was never a Greek-city state or a state or a Greek province or a Greek colony. Ancient Macedonian share very few with Ancient Greek. Just commercial links. They're not inter-breeded with Greeks.
@@zazazazizizi6276 go and f....yourself .and after wards read some history.not Slavic propaganda.
@@tassiek2450 Do you need a glass of water to swallow the truth ? And Plutarch was not a Slavic ...
Well he retrained the people and made new weapons
What does bce mean? Is it similar to BC?
true, its known as before christ and ad is after death of christ
Bce means Before Common Era. It is just another way of saying BC. It's to avoid the religious connotations of BC.
@@arch357 AD means Anno Domini 😂
"after death" 🤡🤡🤡🤡
BCE means before Christ but by people who hate christianity
Try asking them what their "common era" started with
@@hulking_presence People who aren't christian and do not know about the real meaning call it as that. We don't use latin anymore.
Also many other religions have other ways of chronology, some are a lot more complext and are not made up of just 2 divisions.
Take the Puranic Chronology of hinduism as an example. They take time as Cyclic, occuring again and again in a time span of 12000 divine years. It is seperated into 4 yugas. We are in the Kali yuga.
Meanwhile, Buddhists believe the beginning of this world and of life is inconceivable since they have neither beginning nor end. Buddhists believe that the world was not created once upon a time, but that the world has been created millions of times every second and will continue to do so by itself and will break away by itself.
Stop making such comments on how you christians use common era and others don't. You sound like a bozo.
Theodor Monsen : The survivors of the Ilyrians aree the Albanians. Kelly Miller : The Balkans battelfield is exactly yhe center of world history. Wadham Peacok : The mann who marched to Babylon Persia and India were the ancestprs of the Albanians. Nikolla Jorga The Albanian people together and the Basques one are the oldest in Europe. Joseph Saliger The Epiroticlanguage of the past is the Albanian language of Today. Branislav Nusic : The Albanians are indigenious, who during all the agitations managed to save their character and even emphazised it.They resisted on Romans attacks and survived the Slavic migrations. Edith Durham : They are strewn with the wrecage of dead Empires passt Powers only the Albanian go on forever. Robert Gordon Latham : Macedonia and Thracia were Albanians/ Skipetaria. Franz Bopp : Albanian is the oldest indoeuropean language. Alphonse de Lamartine : Albanians this nation and this people can not be mocked . This is the land of Heros of all time . Hopmer found there Achiles the Greeks the Alexander the Great Turks found Skanderbeg people these of the same race,the same blood. Maurico Druon : Albanians belong to the nations who are older than the History and the Grandfathers of Albanians took part in the Troy War,ruled by Hector on one part and by Achilles on the other part. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : Albanian is the old language of the Pelasgien and Ilyrians. Sir Edwin Pears : Albanians are the descendants of the oldest race in the Balkanic Peninsula an Aryan race, Even the word Aryan in their Language means : ^^ Pure Gold ^^. Maximilian Lambretz : The tru History of the humanity will be written only when it will be written with the participation of Albanians. Jovan Cvijic South Slavs after arrived in the Balkans found there the Albanians who under their presuere (Slavs) retreted southward and to most mountains areas. Holger Pedersen : The Albanian language is the oldest tool for elighttenement and more progress.It is a powerful and beautiful language that should be the pride of its speakers and sacred tool for the cultural and intellect development of the ancient Albanian Nation. Edvin Jacques : Ilyrians or Albanians , those tirelessness sonns , were warriors of the Albania Ethnic Ancestors of Achilles , Philip, Alexander the Great Pyrros of Epirous. Johan Georg von Hahn The Albanian derives from Ilyrians and the Ilyrians derives from Pelasgian one. Henri Barisford : In Macedonia Albanians are the only indogenous people. Kelly Miller : The Albanians are wild daring mountainers and have never recognized the sove rignty of the Sultan.General Niox : The Albanians are of Pelasgien origin-they are considered one of the most beautiful and courageous races.Gustav Meyer : The Albanian language is the oldest language in Europe. Herbert David : Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkans, and they are the gooetters of the mountains from very ancient times, they are the descendants of the ancient Pellazgia. No other race has a valid claim to the territories of the Albanians. Lord Byron : Albanians with their costumes make a most wonderful scenery in the world. Albanians are the most beautiful human race exists,courageous,stronger than their strongholds. Konstandin Paparigolus : Only the Albanians are considerded descendands of the Ilyrian-Pelazzgien race. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz If you want to discower they History before Christ and the the sciences at that time you have to lern the Albanian language. Lord Byron : They are the most beautiful creatures that my eyes have ever seen-The Albanian female grant her body and her heart only to one Man. ^^ Alexander the Great was influenced to apreeminent degree by his backround.Sprung according to tradotion,from Heracles and Achilles,he was of Greek descent,but from both parents he had Ylirian Albanian Blood. Charles Alexander Robinson 1949. The Albanian are descended from the ancient Pelasgi .They are a proud and martial people.and have but littlesympathy either with Greks,against both of whom they have frequently fought under Turkish generals,Indeed they havepreserved a sort os semi-Indenpedence ever since the days of Phyrrus .Whom as well as Alexander the Great they claim as their Countrymann. George Henry Lewes 1866 . Albanians are the descendands of Ylirien,Macedonian and Epirotes ,who were the offspring of the Pelasgiens.They are noted for their Indepedence persistence,strong sense of honor:caution hospitality,respected for womannhood,bravery loyality,and keen apreciation of poetry:and have produced some of the most noted Leaders of History.Alexander the Great Leka i Madhe Pyrrhus,Scanderbeg,Ali Pasha of Janina, Mehmet Ali Pasha , of Egypt,the Italian Statsmann Crispi,Papa Clement XXI etc. William Chamberlin Hunt , Edwin MunsellBlisa 1919 . Isac Don Lewin ^^ Alexander the Great is thought by some to have been Albanian.Pyrrhus , the greatest soldier of his time , was an Albanian. Joseph K. Greene 1916 The Albanians are an Aryan race,first now as Pelasgiens,but called Illyrians by the Romans ,with 25,000 Albanian soldiers Alexander Leka i madh conqured Asia. Demetra Vaka ^^ The Albanians had constituded the phalanxes of Alexander the Great ^^ Pyrrhus ,Alexanderthe Great , Scanderbeg were of that race. Alfred Emanuel Smith 1916 ^^ The Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkan peninsula-the descendants of the ancient Pelasgiens and Ylirians.Allthought a small race,they have given to the world several great men,including Pyrrhus,Alexander Leka i madhe,Saint Jerome,Constantine the Great,Pope ClementxI,and Crispi^^ Robert Gordon ^^ The Skipetar ,Epirot,Arnaut,Arvanitas,Arberesh or Albanian of Albania was the language of the ancient Ilyrians perhaps the language of the bulk of the Macedonians a language perhaps of the whole of ancient Greeceand a language which was almost certainly spoken far to the north , the east and the north-eastof its present frontiers^ Louis Herbert Gray - Juwenile ^^ The relation of Macedonia tp Greak is uncertain, Scholars regarding it is a Ylirian Dialect^^Nicholas Geoffrey Lempriere Hamond 1976 ^^ Other tribal groups in what we now call Macedonian spoke non-Greek languages such as Ylirian Thracian languages. if it is not Inoff tell me i Have alot of Facts. One thing more the Studie from Cavalli Sforza : But if the Albanians are not Illyrians, who are they? The geneticist Cavalli Sforza 1997 carried out a study on the genetic data of European populations obtained by using the classifications of blood groups and the DNA markers relating to the Y chromosome. His conclusions, now universally accepted, have contributed decisively to reconstructing the historical and geographical evolution of the human gender. Well according to Cavalli Sforza the Albanians would be the most ancient people of Europe.
This is pure schizophrenia 😂
Yes there are in the Balkan remains of Sanskrit ancient language classified separately as Indo-
European .
And the Indo-
European is most preserved in Albanian language .
But it was never called Albanian in ancient times !
I always thought that Herodotus' emphasis on Macedonian Greekness was some sort of interpolation from the Hellenistic period. I even talked about this with my mentor and he said that that actually can be the case but we do not have substantial evidence to confirm that. It kinda makes sense if the story about Ptolemy III confiscating the whole Athenian library and all books that come to Egypt is true. However, I read both Thucydides and Herodotus a long time ago so I can't remember whether these two historians had a different take on the Macedonians (I think Thucydides actually wrote around 4-5 pages about them...)
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Very interesting
Just found this channel. Love the in depth coverage of something I have heard lots about but never in this detail. Well narrated too. Cheers
Chal see dis 😆😆😆
It's hal ki di ki
Chalsidis 😂
Seleuseed empire? It's seleuKid, it's written right there by yourself! 😂
Amazing!!!
Till 1989 y. it was dengeros to say Macedonia or Macedonian in Greece.
After that become a new greeks history.Greeks become Helleniks,Macedoniаns,ets.
And the name became Hellenik Repablic of greece!!!
Propaganda!
Can you make a video about the huzars in Afghanistan. The Greek settlers planted there to hellenize the region
a lot of it was fake since the time it took.to do what they did would have taken.more time due to logistics.
You..have.to.go..to.pella.amfipolis.SEMETERI.TO.SEE.THE.GREEKS.LETERS.GO.ALEXADREA..TO.SEE.ORIGINAL.MAKEDONIAS.SPIKIN..ELINIKA.....
In.....cre....di.....b.le 😨
Phillip the II was killed in the wedding of his daughter not his own. Please also check the pronunciation of the Greek names. Its a shame such a beautiful video to loose due to the bad pronunciation of Greek names
Is Macedonia today predominantly Muslim?
No the greek region of Macedonia is predominantly Christian orthodox
@Jd Pv Oh shut up already bulgarian no one believes your crap.
North Macedonias half population is Albanians and so muslims the other half are bulgarian orthodox, so let's say it's 50/50
Macedonia (the Greek region) is almost 100% Christian, while North Macedonia (the independent country) is 70% Christian and 30% Muslim.
Combined, the two Macedonias have a population of 2.3 million Christian Greeks, 1.4 million Christian North Macedonians and 600,000 Albanian Muslims.
There exist some Catholics, Jews and Jehova's Witnesses, but their numbers are extremely low.
@Jd Pv "Long live German kind ottos Name creator of Greace and name in 1829 AD."
Apart from making no sense grammatically, your comment is also factually incorrect and completely out of topic. When Otto, prince of Bavaria, was invited to become king of Greece, the Greek state had already been established by Ioannis Kapodistrias. You also got the date wrong. Otto became king in 1832.
Macedon is not called Macedonia.
Macedon is name of the state, Macedonia is name of the country belonging to that state.
Macedonia is a region in the north of Greece, pseudo-Macedonia will never be a full-fledged state. Why steal a name from the Greeks? after all, the Greeks have given so much good to the world. This is not human. It's a shame for big states that allow such injustice.
Macedonia is a greek name
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МАКЕДОНИЈА rules!:)))
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It's just Herodot who said that Macedonian have "Greek" origin. After Salamine war between Greece an Persia , when Greece won the war with the supply of Macedonian timber for ship construction, etc ... wich allowed Greece to win. Then Herodot, to thanks Macedonia, "invented" suddenly, coming from nowhere, an obscure (I should says pretty stupid concept : Why Greek from Argos would go in the north, cold climate, malaria infested area,...) Greek origin, and more , divine origin...Whaow !!! What a flatter, that dear Herodot... Plutarch : Macedonian come General Argea ...
Aeges and Pella are not North and cold. Greeks settled in Crimea too, you need to get some sleep. Where did the Macedonians belong as a group then?
The whole world knows that the Macedonians were of Greek doric stock, this dispute has ended long ago.
How can people who speak a Slavic language, people who don't live in Macedonia, people who don't have Mediterranean skin tone, be Macedonian?
Pretty much every single Greek writer mentions Macedonians as Greek. Those who did not are people like Demosthenes and Thucydides....
1) Demosthenes, an orator, a professional liar that is to be more exact, was a fanatical enemy of Philip II. He did not call in fact Macedonians as barbarians, he only called Philip II as "barbarian"' and merely on "cultural reasons" such as his preference for unwatered wine and drinking in big parties with his soldiers which was not up to the liking of Demosthenes. Really.... Oh... did I mention that he only rememembered to call him a "barbarian"' in his 3rd anti-Philip IIi speech? In the first two he never called him such. Which makes it even more hilarious!!!!
2) Thucydides.... he hated Macedonians far more than Demosthenes. While as a historian he strove to be moderated, in reality he failed and the instance was with Macedonians. Why? Because Macedonians destroyed his life. Read about how his famly (of aristocratic, yet tribally humble Thraecian, roots - LOL!) rose to become a major political family in Athens (great success) and how Thucydides rose to be elected a general. As general he was sent to Macedonia to protect the city of Amphipolis, then allied to Athens, but the Macedonians, allies of Spartans, got there first because Thucydides had underestimated their reactivity and military capabilities. The result? Thucydides was not just stripped from his generalship but also of his citizenship and was kicked out of Athens, never to return. Him and his family lived the rest of their lives in shame (possibly in relative poverty as well in relation to their position in Athens)... why? Because of Macedonians! LOL! The man hated them!.... So sometimes when he is angry he calles them "half-barbarians" or "barbarians".... but what is the most funny is that when he casually mentions them (i.e. forgetting he hates them!) he mentions them as a Greek tribe. Hahahahaha..... Seriously! You can't make that shit up!
I hate to ruin your fantasy but Greeks went and established states pretty much everywhere around the Mediterranean. I mean did you even see the video? It mentions many Greek city-states that later became part of Macedon. There were already Mycenean settlements in the region during the bronze age, many centuries before all these. Greeks had cities in Ukraine, lol. Plutarch pretty much agrees with Herodotus. I guess you haven't read him. I suggest reading his parallel Lives, with pairs of a Greek and a similar Roman. Read the pair of Alexander and Caesar!
@@dimitris_lev.8947 Dorians were not at all Greeks !!! They came from north, far away from Greece. The so-called Dorian BECAME Greeks once they settled in "Greece" and "mixed" with Mycenians and then made a new antropological type : Greek. The Macedonians (ancient) were not mixed with Myceneans, there is even not Mycenean site in Macedonia. Greece has much more legitimity on Scicilly, Calabria, ..(ancient colony that Macedonia was not !) than on Macedonia ! I even should say that Macedonia ( o.k, North Macedonia), historically, has more legitimity on Thessaly then Greece has !!! And don't make us more stupid we are by putting in our mouths your stupid theory and lye claimig that we say that Alexander was slavic speaking !!! You should maybe learn more about indo-european invasion in balkan
Search About it --- League of Corinth,
Stratigos!