Tyler Stephenson - This is why we Greeks of today are so far behind: we like to meet our ancestors half-way to save them the full trip. We are the Greeks: we put the “Hell” in Hellas!
I was born on the island of Ortigia city of Syracuse Sicily Italy, the so called Pentapolis and also the city of Archimedes the greatest of all Greek cities of Magna Grecia..God Bless my Greek culture
vinciguerra = win wars, right? so in Greek: Νικοπολεμος nikopolemos or the other way around: Πολεμονικης polemonikis, I found this name in ancient greek scripture in google
@@alfredvinciguerra532 any Greek name beginning with papa means somewhere in the lineage there was a priest in the family. Hence the word papa or papas means priest in Greek. 👍
Haha yeah... there were possibly up to 90 colonies just in the Black Sea region alone. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More on ancient Greek history to come, stay safe!
13:00 "There are many instances of Greek colonies fighting each other, mostly between cities inhabited by Dorian Greeks against those that were populated with Ionian Greeks." _Greek settler shakes his fist:_ *Damned Greeks! THEY RUINED GREECE!*
Yeah, happens with many, if not most peoples at one point of their history, if not more. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More Greek history to come, stay safe!
Greek colonization, the conquests of Alexander, the various Leagues and alliances that formed, the sheer vastness of Greek domains, the real inspirations behind the stories of the Age of Heroes, all of Ancient Greek history is just so fascinating
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
@@starsajlonjim9598 So Greeks just don't exist according to you? Who would be their successor then? Cause it sure isn't Northern Macedonia, considering they're a Slavic state that's just located in Northern Macedonia. Alexander and his Macedonian Empire were Greek, worshipped Greek gods, spoke and wrote in Greek primarily, and when Alexander died it led to his empire being split between several Hellenic rulers
"FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Hellenic Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes.” The Greeks and their Heritage, A.J Toynbee, 1st Korais Professor of Greek Studies
Amazing. Yet, it begs the question, why the Greek language, culture and influence faded away from the Black Sea? Yet I suspect the Greek speaking peoples must have been eventually absorbed, much later, by the Byzantine Empire (which ended circa 1453)
@@Amadeu.Macedo The culture of the Black Sea or in Greek "Εύξεινος Πόντος" have been survived throughout Ottoman era. The Pontic or Rumeika dialect has been survived and yet is spoken both in greece and black sea till today (constantly declining though in second case). The speakers of the black sea are Greek derived people, that have been converted in Islam religion and Turkish ethnic identity after the fall of the Empire of Trebizond (Byzantine Kingdom) throughout Ottoman rule, due to Hard power. The modern speakers that live in Greece today have emigrated from Black Sea after Greco - Turkish War (1919 - 1922), but they had been living in Black Sea since Antiquity. They have retained their language, religion and ethnic identity throughout Ottoman era. (This is a big issue why some Christians have been retained and some other have been converted, which we can't discuss this by few minutes conversation and is related with Ottoman policies of "Christian Toleration but discrimination in favor of Islam") That's why neo - Turks have slaughtered them (360.000 victims) prosecuted them and exchanged the rest of them with Muslims from Greece (during period of 1909 - 1923 after the regime swift from Ottoman empire to Turkish Republic), keeping the more assimilated people of the Turiksh identity (Turkish policy of singular ethnic identity). Both Pontics of Greece / Turkey are mixed Caucasian/Greek people, because the ancient Greek colonists have been influencing and marring with those native Caucasian people since 800 B.C. (Soft Power). Actually they have many similarities with Georgian and Laz people (genetics/anthropology, domestic customs) except language. The pontic people of Turkey have a cultural greek / caucasian descent and they are aware of that but they self determined as Turks and have been intermixed with Turks too since 1922. In Black sea today live Pontic and Laz people mainly. You can check my assumptions on a well known encyclopedia, or you can check articles and bibliography of top universities in World Ranking. You can search lingual studies about Hellenic language and modern Greek dialects, and the political terms of "Hard/Soft Power" too. I hope you to be helped, have a nice day.
@@thomasthomas6330 Thank you so much, Thomas for your detailed, illuminating reply. As for your suggestion that I might elect to check your assumptions, rest assured that I do not feel compelled to do so, for your postulation makes sense. Additionally, I have recently become interested on the 16th century Ottoman Empire, particularly on account of the life and reign of Sultan Suleiman "the Magnificent" (1494-1566). As such, I am fairly certain that all of his successors were not as fair, civil and honest as he was, for I am aware of the Armenian genocide (ethnic cleansing) of 1915. Consequently I can surely extrapolate the enormity of the duress, which the greek population most likely endured. Cheers!
They were dependent on slavery. Particularly the luxury parasite class that called itself Spartiate. This truth of "enterprise" has never changed through all the history of all the cultures that adopted Greek affectations. Parasitic luxury classes existing off the labor of whoever they can barbarize and pillage.
@@kodiak8525Yeah, finally someone who is able to look behind the curtain. It's always amusing to see how people use these praising attributes because they don't comprehend the context. Unfortunately there is not a lot of material that adds more color to your observation. I.e. exploitation by enslaving the occupied territories (obviously this is not the case when you look at "colonization" a few hundred years later.
@@johng4093And it was the fundamental aspect of their society, without it they had no food or clothes or marble. So what does it mean? They were parasitic luxury classes that we need to understand as an enemy, not a model. Spartans were hobbyist soldiers that were dependent on slaves for food in their mouths, and they died out because they were too proud of it. Athenian democracy was an oligarchy of slavers, too, a sham democracy that died out because they got too greedy. Something nobody ever really mentions is how these two barbarian city states depleted the population of all Greece by around 1/3 to 1/2 during their Peloponnesian wars. And they were all constantly conniving for Persian money.
I can seriously not tell you how refreshing it is to finally find a video about ancient Greek presence in the Italian Peninsula and the larger Mediterranean without it immediately turning into talking about Rome. Thank you for making this. It was seriously needed.
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
While I am delighted to learn about your MANDAEAN culture - that is, pre-Islamic people from southern Iran-Iraq (whose descendents now live in Europe, North America (that's where I live - NYC) and Australia (of all places-LOL)... Fascinating and educative! I am thrilled to make your people's acquaintance! I am native of Brazil (with Portuguese background) and resident of New York City... Cheers! However, on a completely separate matter (and please forgive my ignorance), which person or channel (to whom you sent a message) is Persian? I'm puzzled...
My pleasure, glad you liked this! Yeah, perspectives are important. I also like including primary sources so that people can at least see those and make maybe come to their own conclusions. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
No matter where I venture in the historical world, I always feel a pull back to the ancients. It’s really hard to put into perspective what Alexander, and Phillip, accomplished. Our modern world is so different and our daily lives and needs are the same but still so different. Dan Carlin just started a series on Alexander and I for one am very happy about that. Thanks Cy. You’re a scholar and a gentleman for doing these videos.
I feel the same way... thanks so much for watching, really appreciate it! On another note, I'll be visiting northern Greece in October and will visit the ruins of Aigai and Pella. Will definitely have some content on that later on this year, stay tuned and thanks for watching!
Great Video! I'm a huge fan of Magna Graecia (Μεγάλη Ελλάς), as the Romans called the Greek colonization within the current Italian regions of Sicily, Calabria, Basilicata, Puglia, and Campania. Sicily, the "queen of the Mediterranean" ("La Regina del Mediterraneo"), as I like to call it, was the very heart of Magna Graecia! In Sicily, however, the Greek colonization was concentrated within the current Sicilian provinces of Syracuse (Siracusa), Catania, Ragusa, Messina, Agrigento, Caltanissetta, Enna and within the southern part of the province of Trapani as well (where Selinunte is located). The current province of Palermo, on the other hand, belonged to the Carthaginians. Syracuse (Συράκουσαι), for example, was not only the most important city of Magna Graecia, but it was also one of the most important cities of the western world (specially during Hiero II's reign), rivaling in importance with Rome and Athens themselves! It was also the birthplace of Archimedes himself! Syracuse, in my historical analysis, was the "queen of Sicily" ("Η βασίλισσα της Σικελίας"). From a simple Corinthian colony, Syracuse became the most important city of Magna Graecia. Agrigento (Ακράγας), in turn, was the second most important city of Magna Graecia, especially during the reign of Theron (488-472 BC). After the Greek victory over the Carthaginians at the Battle of Himera (480 BC), Akragas became the most important city of central Sicily. Pindar himself call it the "most beautiful city of the mortals". However, after the destruction of the city by the Carthaginians in 406 BC, Akragas, in MY historical analysis, never recovered its former glory and importance. Rhegium/Ρήγιον (which was the most important city of the Greek Calabria), Taranto/Τάρας (which was the most important city of the Greek Puglia/Apulia) and Paestum/Ποσειδώνια (which was one of the most important cities of Campania), in MY historical analysis, were also key cities for the Greek civilization (Ελλάς). Taranto (Τάρας), in particular, was the single Spartan colony in Magna Graecia! Moreover, the importance of these cities continued even after the Roman conquest! Syracuse (Syracusae) itself, for example, became the capital of the Roman province of Sicily (PROVINCIA SICILIA), which was the first Roman province outside Italy (the "firstborn" of the Roman provinces, as I like to call it). Rhegium became one of the most important cities of BRVTTIVM (Calabria), part of Regio III Lucania et Bruttii (which was one of the 11 regions that emperor Augustus organized Italy). Taranto (Tarentum), in turn, became one of the largest centers of APVLIA (Puglia), which was part of Regio II Apulia et Calabria. Paestum, lastly, became one of the most important cities of Regio I Latium et Campania (which included Rome itself and huge parts of the current Campania). The legacy of Magna Graecia continued throughout the centuries! I really hope to visit its ruins someday.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! For sure, it seems that there's a lot of interest in individual colonies, so in future I'll put together a few short episodes about some of them, including in Magna Graecia. Stay tuned and if you have any specific requests, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again and stay safe!
Watch the film "the Leopard" with Richard Burton, it has lots to do with the descent of the Sicilians... Allen Dellon and Terence Hill are also to see there, as well as Claudia Cardinale. The ancient descent of the Sicilians is used by the main character, to explain their attitude towards life in the 1800´s, at least, that´s the way I understood it.
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
Glad to be of service! Thanks so much for stopping by, always a pleasure! In future I'll do some short episodes on individual colonies and the fascinating stories behind some of them. Stay safe!
Your production skills have gotten so good! The light touch of music, the graphics, the calm presentation style... this is some cozy fireside stuff right here
Thanks, glad you liked this! Yeah, these are all technically works in progress but I'm glad you're noticing some improvements! More to come, stay safe!
Welcome aboard! Glad you're here. This may have been one of the more relaxing ones... actually the podcasts are too, but other vids deal more with conquests and the like... or at least have faster music haha. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, appreciate and more to come...stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy even the conquest ones, I love the pacing and the reading. It's been very engaging and relaxing binging through the channel, especially at night. The TH-cam algorithm needs to pick you up lol. Here to stay.
If you enjoy Cy you’ll probably love Stefan Milo. He primarily covers Neolithic Europe but has recently produced a video on Carthage and a video on the origin of the Iron Age in the African continent. Also if you like references to Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure peppered in with history TreytheExplainer is your guy. He started with paleontology videos but has diversified into covering history. He did a video on the Minoans.
I just did a Greek unit in history. We only learned about Corinth, Megara, Athens, Sparta, and Argos. It was a great unit, but it only scratched the surface! This is so amazing! For all who like Minecraft, I made Konstantinoupolis (Constantinople) on a 1:1000 Earth server. I am allied with Roma! Ask me about details if you are interested. Great video ❤
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
@@starsajlonjim9598lmao tf is this 'global agenda'-type yappin? What would be the reason to 'construct' a new ethnicity (the Greeks)? How do you explain the Romans calling the Greek 'Graeci' , or do you suppose that those words are not related?
@@niklasodonnell6942 Have you seen any artifacts of such? Where did you saw an artifact of RoMaions saying the word Greek? Do a research, and try to find a single artifact with word Greek. Not even a broken coin exists with that word. Also do a research read it's all available these days online. Asks your self then why British French and Russian fleets invade the peninsula in 1820s Why Kapodistrovich the Russian ambassador became the Colonial ruler of the colony? Why did they brought Otto of Bavaria to rule the colony after Kapodistrovich was murdered. Why did the Russian British and French party rule the court? Why did Otto fled and then William the Danish was brought? Then take a look at United Nation founding members, and you will see the House of Gluksburg 1945 ,not Greece. Do a research on Dimotiki language, how it was made and who made it ( Greek doesn't even exist). And again try to find any artifacts , like pottery, jewelry, stone tablets , coins anything with word Greek. You will see it doesn't exist. Never existed !
I’ve been reading a lot about ancient history and specifically Greece. It’s simply a hobby of mine. I’ve also been attending some history courses about this, listening to historians and professors. At the moment I am reading about the interactions between Etruscan and Greek colonies. And I must say that this video is a very good summary! This guy manage to cover in a simple way a lot of what other experts of this field talk about. Great work!
They’re not the same language by any stretch of the imagination, but there’s a lot less change from Ancient to Modern Greek than there is Middle to Modern English. Many of the words are still the same, bar some differences in stresses.
@@aposkal5008 I’m not a scholar but I do teach myself modern Greek (and I also have a fascination with Greece as a whole). I say this mostly based on observations that important Greek words and roots that are present in other languages are still around. An example would be micro and μικρό (which is pronounced me-kro). They’re spelled almost the same and have the same meaning. These words were around from when our languages were forming and have stayed the same until today. And from what I can see, looking at ancient Greek documents, while some pronunciations and accents have been dropped, the core alphabet has stayed the same for over 3000 years. That’s pretty impressive, considering how much change English has gone through in just 500 years.
Thanks, hope you enjoy it! Definitely, there was so much more I wanted to put in but couldn't due to time... just so many colonies, most with really interesting stories!
Greeks are so impressive. for so long theyve had a writing system that beats china, cultural influence that matches or even exceeds Islam, and have had large empires longer than Rome (Alexander the Great's Empire and the Byzantine Empire)
The Greeks have a very long and profound history worthy of any. Alexander the Great's Empire however was short lived and upon his death fractured and split into many competing kingdoms resulting in the wars of the Diadochi. The "Byzantine" Empire was also not a Greek Empire but was the continuation of Rome in the East. The offical language accompanied by Latin was Greek and many ethnic Greeks lived within the borders of the Eastern Empire with many Greeks ruling as Basileus but the civilisation they existed within and were apart of was Roman. "Byzantine" Emperors and citizens of the East reffered to themselves in Greek as Romoioi (Roman) which was their self proclaimed national identity both domestically and abroad. The Roman Empire in one form or another be it united or split into governing halves existed for nearly a millenia and a half being the longest reigning continuous Empire in recorded history. Another thing to note is that although Roman culture was initially heavily influenced by the Ancient Greeks it remained and grew to be very much its own unique entity, one that eventually assimilated and replaced Greek culture near all together. What remained of native Greek culture was whatever the Romans saw efficient and or useful enough to incorporate into their own, everything else was either discarded or replaced.
@@LookHereMars Roman is not a national identity. Roman means Roman citizenship. Every empire is multiethnic. Rome city was founded on 753BC ,from Latin ,Etruscan , Greek and Sabine (Lacedemonian origin) ,populations. These are the names of the 7( 8 ) kings of Rome,from . Romulus,(Titus Tatius), Numa Pompilius, Tullus Hostilius, Ancus Marcius, Tarquinius Priscus, Servius Tullius, Tarquinius Superbus. Romulus =Troian , Titus Tatius = sabine from Lacedemonian origin ,Numa Pompilius =sabine from Lacedemonian origin ,Tarquinius Priscus =Etruscan from paternal (Demaratus) corinthian Doric origin ,Tarquinius Superbus granson of Tarquinius Priscus . Every attempt to dissociate Rome and Roman empire from Greek influence is doomed to failure , from the beginning to the end of the empire.
Byzentine known as roman empire not byzentine empire, the ex scytian hellenic aryans are migrated the china and they mixed with the china they created chinese hellenic kingdome dynasties with queens
Two peoples have really influenced our world greatly. The ancient Greeks were the first. One can only imagine what the world would be like if Alexander had marched westward instead of East. Would Rome have become an empire?
Yeah that's an interesting point...I'm sure people have come up with alternate history stories of that. It's said that after conquering Arabia, he wanted to head west of Macedon into Europe, so I'm sure he would have eventually come into conflict with the Romans. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Yeah, I heard he might have had beef with Carthage, which aided the Phoenician Cities while he sieged them. And it seems like the Phoenicians were long time rivals of the Greeks. If Alexander's Empire goes that far, I don't think the Romans would have grown to the same extent. The Greeks had interests in Magna Gaecia, and unlike Pyrrhus of Epirus, this Empire could grind the Romans into the dust if necessary. Rome benefitted from a nice leveling up period, defeating level appropriate enemies until they finally beat Carthage and became the Hegemon of the Western Med. Then they just had to pit the decadent Daidochi against each other, picking them off one by one, almost on accident. But the Romans might still distinguish themselves as mercenaries and perhaps eventually part of the Empire. Or they might piss off the Empire and get wrecked. :D
@@shorewall Ah yes because such a large and quickly formed empire would definitely have the time and impetus to beat up on no-name, irrelevant tribes in Italy and wouldn't be totally subsumed by rebellion and usurpation. Macedonian politics were legendarily stable and civil after all
There are so many more peoples than the Greeks and Romans who influenced today's world.. please listen to more of Cy's podcasts 😅 what a tired Eurocentric narrative
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
@@javiermandujano35 haha no man, I create a script - not word for word, more like a really thorough outline with important dates and info that I want to make sure I cover so I don't forget anything. It also helps me to focus or else I'd go off on many tangents and keep talking about this stuff forever! Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
"GREEK SIGNATURE DNA influence can be seen in Southern Italy and Sicily, where the genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37%, and the southern Balkans" Di Gaetano, Cornelia; et al. (2009). European Journal of Human Genetics. 17 (1): 91-99
While I do think there is a lot of Greek ancestry in Southern Italy, I don't think that 2009 study was in the position to accertain precise numbers, we still lack iron age samples from modern Greece.
@@g-rexsaurus794 "GREEKS ARE SOME OF THE EARLIEST CONTRIBUTORS OF GENETIC MATERIAL TO THE REST OF THE EUROPEANS AS THEY ARE ONE OF THE OLDEST POPULATIONS IN EUROPE" Cavalli-Sforza, Luigi Luca; Menozzi, Paolo; Piazza, Alberto (1996). The History and Geography of Human Genes. Princeton University Press. pp. 255-301
@@g-rexsaurus794 Absolutely, but the research mesured the haplogroups (Y-Dna and mtDna) in modern population that were exclusive to ancient greece / greek colonies. So since it's 37% for just haplogroups the total admixture could be even more.
@@polarysice5748 I agree that should we wait for more studies. Also the relation of modern Greeks and other nations (as Southern Italians, Greek Cypriots) is mainly based on historical, lingual and cultural similarities than genetics. I believe that the modern Greeks have a significant part of ancient greek DNA but they are intermixed too. Also none person globally is genetically genuine, even the ancient greeks were intermixed in some grade, because they have been interacted with many nations throughout history.
@@polarysice5748 There is no reason to assume all the Greek admixture is from colonies, a lot of it was from slaves taken during the Roman conquest of Greece for example, or later Byzantine migration even.
@@Riftrender, I can't disagree with let me clear my point if I can, I like the idea and mythology of Greece, my favorite city states, were Thebes,Sparta.
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
Probably second most number of Greek cities are in Turkiye which is barely mentioned in the video. Such as: Ephesus, Smyrna, Halicarnassus, Pergamon, Assos, Troy, Priene, Knidos, Phaselis, Side, Antiphellos.
"The Homeric poems were first written down in more or less their present form in the seventh century B.C. Since then GREEK HAS ENJOYED A CONTINUOUS TRADITION DOWN TO THE PRESENT DAY. Change there has certainly been. But there has been no break like that between Latin and Romance languages. Ancient Greek is not a foreign language to the Greek of today as Anglo-Saxon is to the modern Englishman. The only other language which enjoys comparable CONTINUITY OF TRADITION is Chinese." Browning 1983, p. vii: Medieval and Modern Greek Robert Browning Cambridge University Press, Aug 18, 1983
Surely Ancient Greek culture is amazing and is very very imporant. The huge question is /though many Greeks do not wish to talk about it / the one discussing the ethnic structure of today's Greece. i am not sure whether the Greeks today are genetically the same like the Ancient Greeks from Ancient towns. Would be great to see some serious studies about that.
@@Bulgarian021 "GREEKS ARE SOME OF THE EARLIEST CONTRIBUTORS OF GENETIC MATERIAL TO THE REST OF THE EUROPEANS AS THEY ARE ONE OF THE OLDEST POPULATIONS IN EUROPE" Cavalli-Sforza, Luigi Luca; Menozzi, Paolo; Piazza, Alberto (1996). The History and Geography of Human Genes. Princeton University Press. pp. 255-301
@@Bulgarian021 The genetic decent doesn't matter. The Hellenic civilization is a global heritage, but throughout modern Greek civilization is still alive, and modern Greeks are the main heirs of it, but numerous nations too secondarily. Unfortunately many Greeks don't study ancient Hellenism nowadays and yet boasting about their Hellenic descent , but there are also many young Greeks and foreigners that study Hellenic Civilization in order to retain it, against the decay of time. As a Greek, i hope Hellenic civilization to be retained and to continue influence and to be influenced by other nations, (as always) for humanity's sake.
Great video, would LOVE one about pre-Selene Arcadia,since Hermes and Hercules seem to have their proper origins exactly in that very remote, ancient place!
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! Yeah I want to do some short videos on individual colonies soon, maybe later on this year. Hope all is well on your end and talk soon...stay safe!
I always wanted to learn more about the pre-classical ancient world and this video suddenly popped up in my reccomended. So before I watched the video I took a quick look at your channel and OH MY GOD I instantly subscribed! Keep it up mate!
Thanks my friend, appreciate it! Yeah, I'll be skipping around the region for a bit but will eventually come back to some Greek-related topics. Seems to be a lot of interest in the Black Sea colonies/cities so could revisit that soon. As always, thanks so much for your support, really appreciate it! Hope that all is well on your end and stay safe!
Georgios mos i u gaboni më shumë kalabrëzët janë arbëresh ose shqiptarë shkoni dhe pyjtni në greqisht dhe dhe shqip çar gjuhe do të marin vesh shqip apo greqisht në rëgull
My pleasure, thank you for stopping by! I'll try to do more on the Greek cities of the Black Sea region since it seems like many of you are interested in that. Thanks again and stay safe!
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! Yeah, making the maps are my favorite part of the visuals... was lucky this time to also get some good stock footage. More to come, stay safe!
I look forward to viewing more videos about the Greek colonies. If information is available, include the lesser known ones too. Will you do one on Byzantium; a little town that really didn't amount to much, but may still be interesting?
Byzantium? I think I've heard of it. Hahaha yes, for sure! I had once written an article on the history of Constantinople and have thought about using that as a starting point for a video on the subject. I'm hoping by this summer to start putting out content on Roman history, which will lead into the history of Byzantium/Constantinople. Stay tuned my friend! Thanks also for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
Haha yeah a cruise down the Mediterranean and Black seas is not a bad way to start. Seriously though, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
22:25 Silphium was used for way more than just a laxative. Just about anything can be used as a Laxative if you misuse in enough. Silphium was worth its weight in Silver or even Gold depending on the source. Hinting that it was at least an amazing seasoning for food. And an actual functional birth control method.
But...we should have been more careful and organized. It's gone now. Forget it. The most important thing is to fix the current condition and keep what we have, though with these governments and IMF still over our heads, it's going to be extremely difficult. No more wars. Just progress!
This is wonderful video, and when i think how many known cities such as Naples, Marseille and other were in fact founded by Ancient Greeks is amazing feeling. Myself have been to Acragas which is known modern town of Agrigento on Sicily, also i have visited Syracuse, very special feelings.
This just shows how dominant the ancient Greeks were, spreading their culture across the Mediterranean Sea and elsewhere. Thanks for another amazing video!
There's an ancient bronze age Greek settlement in Istria, Croatia called Monkodonja close to the modern coastal town of Rovinj. It was an ancient settlement of bronze age Greeks that were massacred by their Illyrian neighbors. All there is left now are walled ruins but it was an active settlement of about a thousand people in its time. I visited the site and gave offering of bread and Christian prayers for their pagan souls. After saying my prayers for them I felt the shear terror of their massacre the next night I slept. The bronze age was a very active period of localized conflicts.
Although Magna Grecia ceased to exist with the Roman conquest of southern Italy two millenia ago, there are still Greek-speaking towns in Puglia where the road signs, etc. are written in the Cirillic alphabet.
I watched it from my parteon account, thanks, CY. It is nice to learn something, since I am a huge fan of Crete and other Greek islands . Here I was amazed to learn about Greek colonies in Spain and FR. I did not know about that
Oh nice, haha glad some of you are using that. Yeah I need to put out more on the colonies in France and Spain ... there were several and I could probably do short videos on some of them individually. Thanks again for again for the support, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
He didnt mention a couple more greek city-states in Spain, such as Mainake, Hemeroskopeion, etc.... Emporion for example (just as Massalia) was founded by Phocean refugees after their city was taken by the Persians. Emporion being a colony of its own not really one of Massalia (although was very much likely a trade-partner and under it's influence). Later on Emporion became the second largest and important city in the region after Massalia.
8:21 this might be a bit difficult even for Greeks who know a bit of ancient Greek. This is because it is written in Aeolian script, which is right to left and also had some letters differently from the standard Attic Greek you might know. I'll write the text in Attic and miniscule letters, and you can check my response to this for explanation. ΝΕΣΤΟΡΟΣ ΕΙΜΙ ΕΥΠΟΤΟΝ ΠΟΤΗΡΙΟΝ ΟΣΔΗ ΤΩΔΕ ΠΙΕΣΙ (ΠΙΕΙ) ΠΟΤΗΡΙΩ, ΑΥΤΙΚΑΚΕΝΟΝ ΙΜΕΡΟΣ ΑΙΡΕΣΕΙ ΚΑΛΛΙΣΤΕΦΑΝΩ ΑΦΡΟΔΙΤΗΣ Minuscule: Νέστορος εἰμὶ εὔποτον ποτήριον. ὃς δὴ τῷδε πιεῖ ποτηρίῳ, αὐτικάκενον ἵμερος αἱρέσει καλλιστεφάνῳ Ἀφροδίτης.
Here one can notice several differences from the standard Greek alphabet that went on to be adopted by Etruscan and Latin. First off, there's the weird S that's missing a line from Greek Σ. This went on to be curved into S. Also, there are no etas and omegas, that only existed in mainland Greece. That's why long e letters and o letters in Latin are written the same as their short counterparts. So ποτήριον here is written with an ε, καλλιστεφάνῳ is with an o and no subscript, and Ἀφροδίτης is written again with an ε and not the η on the inscription. Also, notice in καλλιστεφάνῳ how the λs are written in reverse up down fashion, like reverse L instead of Λ. This is what became L when it was written left to right instead of right to left. And finally, the Θ like letter on the right in the beginning of words isn't actually Θ, because that was e written as an O with an X inside. That letter is actually H, not the Greek eta, but rather h. It's the latter daseia symbol that was initially written as that, then H and then stopped being used like that. However, Latin and from that English inherited the letter. So at some point in Greek, history, Hades and Hellas were written ΗΙΣΤΟΡΙΑ, ΗΑΔΕΣ and ΗΕΛΛΑΣ.
The name of the country is EL-LAS literally meaning "rock of the Gods". The name Greek (how the west calls Greece) comes from Greakia an ancient kingdom of northwest Greece and the name Yunan (how the East calls Greece) comes from Ionia, another local Hellenic kingdom and colony. Greeks were tribes with common ancestry going back to pre-flood origins and each one had a separate city-state and kingdom, but they all called themselves EL-enes (Greeks).
I'll tell you why these videos are perfect. There's slicker videos with full animation, interviews, exclusive on location video, etc. And we have to wait months for videos like that. Cy is able to pump out quality videos with great info cause he puts the parts that matter ahead of unnecessary production value. Cy has original source quotes, basic animation, and great research, and that's 99% of what makes a great video. Would they be 1% better with interviews with experts, exclusive footage of the ruins visited by CY himself? Full slick and polished animation? Yeah, 1% better, and we'd have to wait 500% longer for each video. The current Cy vids are the perfect balance.
It's comments like this that make my day... I appreciate the kind words but also the constructive feedback. Let's me know what you all like about these and maybe places where I can improve. Seriously, thanks for info! Haha actually when it's safer/easier to travel overseas, I do hope to visit some of these places and create my own footage to put in the videos, maybe later on in the year if everything works out. Anyway, thanks again, really appreciate it and more to come in the near future. Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy There's ways to improve but also a cost to every benefit. Would it be cool if you did personal interviews with experts and were able to edit in quotes from them? Yes. But if it means you only make half as many videos is it worth it? No. I'd rather get 20 great videos instead of one extra great video. Would it be cool to have full animation or costumed reenactments? Yes. But if you putting effort into that means we get 20% less videos total it's not worth what it costs. Right now your videos are so jam-packed with info that I have to (get to) watch them multiple times. First viewing I retain the general overview, second viewing I go back in and pause and rewatch some parts, cause there's so many places and dates and connections, and then I watch a few more times just for fun, and often come back to old videos when a subject you covered comes up on a podcast or something. I still watch your Sea People's video every few months and send it to people when the bronze age collapse comes up in conversation. Why does it come up in conversation so much? Cause I'm a nerd and talk about ancient history a lot. Also cause civilization is collapsing around us and there's a lot of parallels. Systems Collapse 2KXX! Anyway, if - and only if - you can get interviews and on-site footage and slick animation with MINIMAL EFFORT would I encourage you to do it, because what I value most is that you hit the important points; good research/topics, primary source quotes, and some relevant animation and pictures so it's more than just an audio lecture. If each give has 100 possible points of enjoyment, you're giving me 99 several times a month, and that adds up to several hundred a month, which is better than a single video every two months that hits the full 100. Once you can travel I hope you do, you do so much for us and for the history community on TH-cam with these videos you make, so you absolutely deserve to have fun. Just remember to not become too much of a perfectionist and end up making less videos total. If fans have any influence on where you visit to get footage: Meroë, Gebel Barkal, Khartoum, Kerma, Naqada.
One day my friend, I'll put together something separate about that. Seems like it's a popular request from many of you! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...more to come, stay safe!
A fun fact in the story from Herodotous, is that the island of Thera that colonised Lybia is in the modern day called Santorini island which is super famous for instagram purposes and not for its facinating history. Greeting and lots of love to our Lybian brothers from Thera! Very enjoyable video, amazing channel!
Yes, I definitely want to explore that region more on this channel, including its colonies. Stay tuned, have a few short episodes on this region. Thanks for stopping by and stay safe!
Half of my ancestors come from southern Italy (Naples and Calabria) and knew about the greek colonies. So I always wondered if I have some Greek in my blood family.
@@HistorywithCy Your history from Sumer to middle bronze era and then the later Assyrian/Persian/Babylonian/Phoenician/Greeks warrants a medal. I bow and once again thank you for your hard work. Crack on and don't look back if you can.
@@anasevi9456 pleasure's all mine. I loved making that last Sumerian video...took a while but was fun for me to do. In future I'll do one on Babylonian and maybe a revamp, longer version of Assyrian history - that or just a really long podcast. Thanks again for the support, really appreciate it!
Being from Sardinia, I would like to add that my island, unlike the other territories of southern Italy, was not really involved in the Greek colonisation except marginally. The only territories of Sardinia influenced by the Greek presence were those of Olbia on the north-eastern coast and Sarroch on the southern coast. Olbia Is a City founded by Greek colonists from the region of Phocis . And then were founded by the Greeks also other cities with the name of Olbia, including one on the French Mediterranean coast and another on the Black Sea. The name of those cities derives from the adjective olbios which means happy. In the southern territory of Sardinia around Sarroch are attested exchanges with the Mycenaean culture.
Love all your videos Cy. Very educational and informative. You can add migration (as to the US Southern boarder currently) a reason people move. Natural Disasters (yourself have reported the multiple Vocanos) WAR, pestilence and famine, all reasons people "leave the place they love".... When you start connecting dots between time and place and society, your viewers will triple. Love ya Cy!
Haven’t watched it yet but always love your videos when I can find time to watch them! Is there a particular time period/group/nation etc. that you haven’t covered yet that you want to, OR a group you’d want to talk about but there is barely enough historical records about them?
No worries my friend, take your time! Hope that you enjoy it! Yes, there are a few... a few in the Americas, some steppe societies - basically civilizations that we know little about because they either didn't have a written language or other people didn't write much about them. Cimmerians would also be a good one... others (Greeks, Assyrians) have written about them, but they left few if any material remains so technically we don't know too much about them. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
My pleasure, really glad you liked it! I'll see if I can put together more stuff on some individual colonies... most of them have really interesting stories! Thanks again and stay safe!
I missread the thumbnail and thought at first it said "Geek Colonies" and had a picture in my head of a City State of Star Trek Fans next to a City State of Pokemon Fans.... they were at war with the "My little pony" People...
Hi ..i am sudanese student in history field (just first year) I appreciate what do you do .. I just subscribed on your channel ,because i interesting in your content .. but i am not a very good in English (excatly in historian phrases) i will keep watching you to improve my historian language and take general idea about history
Of cause this is much later, but I have learned that for many generations, there has been a well integrated Greek diaspora in East Africa. To be precise in Tanzania. They have been here for hundreds of years and are a part of the general population. A few have Greek inspired restaurants, not for tourists but for the general public in Tanzania. They are nice, well integrated people. Custos to them
"Like frogs around a pond, we have settled down upon the shores of this sea."
Plato
Great quote! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Ancient Greece is crazy as hell. Those people were so far ahead of their time
City States > Nation States
@@marcusbenhurr Until they all inevitably fight and destroy each other
Agreed! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
Tyler Stephenson - This is why we Greeks of today are so far behind: we like to meet our ancestors half-way to save them the full trip. We are the Greeks: we put the “Hell” in Hellas!
Nubiamancy - Ummm...no.
I was born on the island of Ortigia city of Syracuse Sicily Italy, the so called Pentapolis and also the city of Archimedes the greatest of all Greek cities of Magna Grecia..God Bless my Greek culture
vinciguerra = win wars, right? so in Greek: Νικοπολεμος nikopolemos or the other way around: Πολεμονικης polemonikis, I found this name in ancient greek scripture in google
@@damnyourpasswords Many Greek names italianized in Sicily my grandmother last name is Papadopulo.
@@alfredvinciguerra532 any Greek name beginning with papa means somewhere in the lineage there was a priest in the family. Hence the word papa or papas means priest in Greek. 👍
@@damnyourpasswords heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
@@alfredvinciguerra532 heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
Soooo... There's a lot more to ancient Greece than 3 or 4 city states usually mentioned. That's very enlightening. Thank you.
Haha yeah... there were possibly up to 90 colonies just in the Black Sea region alone. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More on ancient Greek history to come, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I'm from one of those colonies, Callatis.
@@r3dpuma l had to google it. Romania, correct? How Greek is it nowadays?
@@shanecarter3154 there is nothing Greek about it anymore. Just some ruins.
3 or 4? I thought it was just Athens and Sparta? Lol
13:00 "There are many instances of Greek colonies fighting each other, mostly between cities inhabited by Dorian Greeks against those that were populated with Ionian Greeks."
_Greek settler shakes his fist:_ *Damned Greeks! THEY RUINED GREECE!*
Yeah, happens with many, if not most peoples at one point of their history, if not more. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More Greek history to come, stay safe!
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@@HistorywithCy I love you cy
Competition breeds success
They were maintaining the cultural traditions of the mother country... 😉
It's amazing how there's more to greek history than what popular media have shown us. These greeks had everything.
Greek colonization, the conquests of Alexander, the various Leagues and alliances that formed, the sheer vastness of Greek domains, the real inspirations behind the stories of the Age of Heroes, all of Ancient Greek history is just so fascinating
Agreed! Next big video will be on one of the topics you just mentioned... don't want to give it away but stay tuned! Thanks for watching!
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
@@starsajlonjim9598cry 🤫
@@starsajlonjim9598North Macedonians are just Serbians having an identity crisis
@@starsajlonjim9598 So Greeks just don't exist according to you? Who would be their successor then? Cause it sure isn't Northern Macedonia, considering they're a Slavic state that's just located in Northern Macedonia. Alexander and his Macedonian Empire were Greek, worshipped Greek gods, spoke and wrote in Greek primarily, and when Alexander died it led to his empire being split between several Hellenic rulers
"FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Hellenic Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes.”
The Greeks and their Heritage, A.J Toynbee, 1st Korais Professor of Greek Studies
Nice, Arnold Toynbee... he's a legend. Thanks for sharing, stay safe!
And 5 if you count the Myceneans inheriting from the Minoans!
Amazing. Yet, it begs the question, why the Greek language, culture and influence faded away from the Black Sea? Yet I suspect the Greek speaking peoples must have been eventually absorbed, much later, by the Byzantine Empire (which ended circa 1453)
@@Amadeu.Macedo
The culture of the Black Sea or in Greek "Εύξεινος Πόντος" have been survived throughout Ottoman era. The Pontic or Rumeika dialect has been survived and yet is spoken both in greece and black sea till today (constantly declining though in second case). The speakers of the black sea are Greek derived people, that have been converted in Islam religion and Turkish ethnic identity after the fall of the Empire of Trebizond (Byzantine Kingdom) throughout Ottoman rule, due to Hard power. The modern speakers that live in Greece today have emigrated from Black Sea after Greco - Turkish War (1919 - 1922), but they had been living in Black Sea since Antiquity. They have retained their language, religion and ethnic identity throughout Ottoman era. (This is a big issue why some Christians have been retained and some other have been converted, which we can't discuss this by few minutes conversation and is related with Ottoman policies of "Christian Toleration but discrimination in favor of Islam") That's why neo - Turks have slaughtered them (360.000 victims) prosecuted them and exchanged the rest of them with Muslims from Greece (during period of 1909 - 1923 after the regime swift from Ottoman empire to Turkish Republic), keeping the more assimilated people of the Turiksh identity (Turkish policy of singular ethnic identity). Both Pontics of Greece / Turkey are mixed Caucasian/Greek people, because the ancient Greek colonists have been influencing and marring with those native Caucasian people since 800 B.C. (Soft Power). Actually they have many similarities with Georgian and Laz people (genetics/anthropology, domestic customs) except language. The pontic people of Turkey have a cultural greek / caucasian descent and they are aware of that but they self determined as Turks and have been intermixed with Turks too since 1922. In Black sea today live Pontic and Laz people mainly.
You can check my assumptions on a well known encyclopedia, or you can check articles and bibliography of top universities in World Ranking. You can search lingual studies about Hellenic language and modern Greek dialects, and the political terms of "Hard/Soft Power" too. I hope you to be helped, have a nice day.
@@thomasthomas6330 Thank you so much, Thomas for your detailed, illuminating reply. As for your suggestion that I might elect to check your assumptions, rest assured that I do not feel compelled to do so, for your postulation makes sense. Additionally, I have recently become interested on the 16th century Ottoman Empire, particularly on account of the life and reign of Sultan Suleiman "the Magnificent" (1494-1566). As such, I am fairly certain that all of his successors were not as fair, civil and honest as he was, for I am aware of the Armenian genocide (ethnic cleansing) of 1915. Consequently I can surely extrapolate the enormity of the duress, which the greek population most likely endured.
Cheers!
The greeks were ahead of their time. Real enterprising people
Yes, that they were! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
They were dependent on slavery. Particularly the luxury parasite class that called itself Spartiate. This truth of "enterprise" has never changed through all the history of all the cultures that adopted Greek affectations. Parasitic luxury classes existing off the labor of whoever they can barbarize and pillage.
@@kodiak8525Yeah, finally someone who is able to look behind the curtain.
It's always amusing to see how people use these praising attributes because they don't comprehend the context. Unfortunately there is not a lot of material that adds more color to your observation. I.e. exploitation by enslaving the occupied territories (obviously this is not the case when you look at "colonization" a few hundred years later.
Slavery existed in almost any ancient culture you can name.
@@johng4093And it was the fundamental aspect of their society, without it they had no food or clothes or marble. So what does it mean? They were parasitic luxury classes that we need to understand as an enemy, not a model. Spartans were hobbyist soldiers that were dependent on slaves for food in their mouths, and they died out because they were too proud of it. Athenian democracy was an oligarchy of slavers, too, a sham democracy that died out because they got too greedy. Something nobody ever really mentions is how these two barbarian city states depleted the population of all Greece by around 1/3 to 1/2 during their Peloponnesian wars. And they were all constantly conniving for Persian money.
I can seriously not tell you how refreshing it is to finally find a video about ancient Greek presence in the Italian Peninsula and the larger Mediterranean without it immediately turning into talking about Rome. Thank you for making this. It was seriously needed.
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
@@starsajlonjim9598Makedonia is Greek
@@ellinmakedon1216 Greek don't exist :) Macedonia is MACEDONIA!
@@starsajlonjim9598 Nonsense from a slavo🤣🤣🤣🤣🥳
@@ellinmakedon1216 In fact nonsense from afro-arab middle easterner :)
Hello my Persian friend I’m native mandean Mesopotamian I’m from Sydney I just wanna say I love your historic documentaries
Thanks so much, really appreciate it! Hope all is well down under and stay safe! By the way, love the avatar!
While I am delighted to learn about your MANDAEAN culture - that is, pre-Islamic people from southern Iran-Iraq (whose descendents now live in Europe, North America (that's where I live - NYC) and Australia (of all places-LOL)... Fascinating and educative!
I am thrilled to make your people's acquaintance! I am native of Brazil (with Portuguese background) and resident of New York City... Cheers!
However, on a completely separate matter (and please forgive my ignorance), which person or channel (to whom you sent a message) is Persian? I'm puzzled...
@@Amadeu.Macedo Cy is of Persian descent.
@@michaelhowze8198 '= Ahhhh! Thanks for clarifying, I should have extrapolated it. Cheers!
@@michaelhowze8198Perhaps Cy is short for Cyrus the Great.
Pytheas from Marseille sailed north to Britain crossing Gibraltar. This is an another interesting page of the greek colonization saga
I swear I love how this channel shows a different perspective than what is focused on by others.
Thanks Cy!
My pleasure, glad you liked this! Yeah, perspectives are important. I also like including primary sources so that people can at least see those and make maybe come to their own conclusions. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
No matter where I venture in the historical world, I always feel a pull back to the ancients. It’s really hard to put into perspective what Alexander, and Phillip, accomplished. Our modern world is so different and our daily lives and needs are the same but still so different. Dan Carlin just started a series on Alexander and I for one am very happy about that.
Thanks Cy. You’re a scholar and a gentleman for doing these videos.
I feel the same way... thanks so much for watching, really appreciate it! On another note, I'll be visiting northern Greece in October and will visit the ruins of Aigai and Pella. Will definitely have some content on that later on this year, stay tuned and thanks for watching!
🇬🇷 I'm Greek and I love the video keep up the great work!
My pleasure, thanks for watching! Next video will be on Greece as well, stay tuned!
Great Video!
I'm a huge fan of Magna Graecia (Μεγάλη Ελλάς), as the Romans called the Greek colonization within the current Italian regions of Sicily, Calabria, Basilicata, Puglia, and Campania. Sicily, the "queen of the Mediterranean" ("La Regina del Mediterraneo"), as I like to call it, was the very heart of Magna Graecia! In Sicily, however, the Greek colonization was concentrated within the current Sicilian provinces of Syracuse (Siracusa), Catania, Ragusa, Messina, Agrigento, Caltanissetta, Enna and within the southern part of the province of Trapani as well (where Selinunte is located). The current province of Palermo, on the other hand, belonged to the Carthaginians.
Syracuse (Συράκουσαι), for example, was not only the most important city of Magna Graecia, but it was also one of the most important cities of the western world (specially during Hiero II's reign), rivaling in importance with Rome and Athens themselves! It was also the birthplace of Archimedes himself! Syracuse, in my historical analysis, was the "queen of Sicily" ("Η βασίλισσα της Σικελίας"). From a simple Corinthian colony, Syracuse became the most important city of Magna Graecia. Agrigento (Ακράγας), in turn, was the second most important city of Magna Graecia, especially during the reign of Theron (488-472 BC). After the Greek victory over the Carthaginians at the Battle of Himera (480 BC), Akragas became the most important city of central Sicily. Pindar himself call it the "most beautiful city of the mortals". However, after the destruction of the city by the Carthaginians in 406 BC, Akragas, in MY historical analysis, never recovered its former glory and importance.
Rhegium/Ρήγιον (which was the most important city of the Greek Calabria), Taranto/Τάρας (which was the most important city of the Greek Puglia/Apulia) and Paestum/Ποσειδώνια (which was one of the most important cities of Campania), in MY historical analysis, were also key cities for the Greek civilization (Ελλάς). Taranto (Τάρας), in particular, was the single Spartan colony in Magna Graecia! Moreover, the importance of these cities continued even after the Roman conquest! Syracuse (Syracusae) itself, for example, became the capital of the Roman province of Sicily (PROVINCIA SICILIA), which was the first Roman province outside Italy (the "firstborn" of the Roman provinces, as I like to call it). Rhegium became one of the most important cities of BRVTTIVM (Calabria), part of Regio III Lucania et Bruttii (which was one of the 11 regions that emperor Augustus organized Italy). Taranto (Tarentum), in turn, became one of the largest centers of APVLIA (Puglia), which was part of Regio II Apulia et Calabria. Paestum, lastly, became one of the most important cities of Regio I Latium et Campania (which included Rome itself and huge parts of the current Campania).
The legacy of Magna Graecia continued throughout the centuries! I really hope to visit its ruins someday.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! For sure, it seems that there's a lot of interest in individual colonies, so in future I'll put together a few short episodes about some of them, including in Magna Graecia. Stay tuned and if you have any specific requests, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again and stay safe!
Watch the film "the Leopard" with Richard Burton, it has lots to do with the descent of the Sicilians... Allen Dellon and Terence Hill are also to see there, as well as Claudia Cardinale. The ancient descent of the Sicilians is used by the main character, to explain their attitude towards life in the 1800´s, at least, that´s the way I understood it.
Poli uwdeo, very beautiful!
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
Whoa. So good. Sooooooo goooood. Loving this, friend. Absolutely loving this. This is absolutely the best part of my week.
Glad to be of service! Thanks so much for stopping by, always a pleasure! In future I'll do some short episodes on individual colonies and the fascinating stories behind some of them. Stay safe!
Your production skills have gotten so good! The light touch of music, the graphics, the calm presentation style... this is some cozy fireside stuff right here
Thanks, glad you liked this! Yeah, these are all technically works in progress but I'm glad you're noticing some improvements! More to come, stay safe!
This man needs more subs
Haha thanks my friend... they're coming, slowly but surely. Thanks also for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
The Greek Colonial Era is one of my favorite periods of history. I like any time where exploration was the norm.
Wow did I just discover another relaxing history TH-cam channel? Sure looks like I did. Well produced!
Welcome aboard! Glad you're here. This may have been one of the more relaxing ones... actually the podcasts are too, but other vids deal more with conquests and the like... or at least have faster music haha. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, appreciate and more to come...stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy even the conquest ones, I love the pacing and the reading. It's been very engaging and relaxing binging through the channel, especially at night. The TH-cam algorithm needs to pick you up lol. Here to stay.
If you enjoy Cy you’ll probably love Stefan Milo. He primarily covers Neolithic Europe but has recently produced a video on Carthage and a video on the origin of the Iron Age in the African continent. Also if you like references to Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure peppered in with history TreytheExplainer is your guy. He started with paleontology videos but has diversified into covering history. He did a video on the Minoans.
I just did a Greek unit in history. We only learned about Corinth, Megara, Athens, Sparta, and Argos. It was a great unit, but it only scratched the surface! This is so amazing! For all who like Minecraft, I made Konstantinoupolis (Constantinople) on a 1:1000 Earth server. I am allied with Roma! Ask me about details if you are interested. Great video ❤
Macedon?
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
@@starsajlonjim9598lmao tf is this 'global agenda'-type yappin?
What would be the reason to 'construct' a new ethnicity (the Greeks)? How do you explain the Romans calling the Greek 'Graeci' , or do you suppose that those words are not related?
@@niklasodonnell6942 Have you seen any artifacts of such? Where did you saw an artifact of RoMaions saying the word Greek? Do a research, and try to find a single artifact with word Greek. Not even a broken coin exists with that word. Also do a research read it's all available these days online. Asks your self then why British French and Russian fleets invade the peninsula in 1820s Why Kapodistrovich the Russian ambassador became the Colonial ruler of the colony? Why did they brought Otto of Bavaria to rule the colony after Kapodistrovich was murdered. Why did the Russian British and French party rule the court? Why did Otto fled and then William the Danish was brought? Then take a look at United Nation founding members, and you will see the House of Gluksburg 1945 ,not Greece. Do a research on Dimotiki language, how it was made and who made it ( Greek doesn't even exist). And again try to find any artifacts , like pottery, jewelry, stone tablets , coins anything with word Greek. You will see it doesn't exist. Never existed !
@@starsajlonjim959810:40
19th century you say?
I really enjoyed this! I can't wait for more content on the black sea Greeks! A big fascination of mine.
Thanks, my pleasure! Will have more coming up in the next few months, stay tuned and thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it!
I’ve been reading a lot about ancient history and specifically Greece. It’s simply a hobby of mine.
I’ve also been attending some history courses about this, listening to historians and professors.
At the moment I am reading about the interactions between Etruscan and Greek colonies.
And I must say that this video is a very good summary! This guy manage to cover in a simple way a lot of what other experts of this field talk about.
Great work!
Fun fact, they still use some greek words in the Moroccan everyday language.
🤣 they have albanian words too what you mean with that? Becouse ancient greek is not modern greek.
@@arteniskaja4576 modern comes from the ancient though
They’re not the same language by any stretch of the imagination, but there’s a lot less change from Ancient to Modern Greek than there is Middle to Modern English. Many of the words are still the same, bar some differences in stresses.
@@zester000 have you studied any of them?
@@aposkal5008 I’m not a scholar but I do teach myself modern Greek (and I also have a fascination with Greece as a whole). I say this mostly based on observations that important Greek words and roots that are present in other languages are still around. An example would be micro and μικρό (which is pronounced me-kro). They’re spelled almost the same and have the same meaning. These words were around from when our languages were forming and have stayed the same until today.
And from what I can see, looking at ancient Greek documents, while some pronunciations and accents have been dropped, the core alphabet has stayed the same for over 3000 years. That’s pretty impressive, considering how much change English has gone through in just 500 years.
Oooh this looks good. The Greek colonies were very intersting!
Thanks, hope you enjoy it! Definitely, there was so much more I wanted to put in but couldn't due to time... just so many colonies, most with really interesting stories!
@@HistorywithCy Save it for another video!
@@connorgolden4 will do!
Greeks are so impressive. for so long theyve had a writing system that beats china, cultural influence that matches or even exceeds Islam, and have had large empires longer than Rome (Alexander the Great's Empire and the Byzantine Empire)
Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
The Greeks have a very long and profound history worthy of any. Alexander the Great's Empire however was short lived and upon his death fractured and split into many competing kingdoms resulting in the wars of the Diadochi. The "Byzantine" Empire was also not a Greek Empire but was the continuation of Rome in the East. The offical language accompanied by Latin was Greek and many ethnic Greeks lived within the borders of the Eastern Empire with many Greeks ruling as Basileus but the civilisation they existed within and were apart of was Roman. "Byzantine" Emperors and citizens of the East reffered to themselves in Greek as Romoioi (Roman) which was their self proclaimed national identity both domestically and abroad. The Roman Empire in one form or another be it united or split into governing halves existed for nearly a millenia and a half being the longest reigning continuous Empire in recorded history.
Another thing to note is that although Roman culture was initially heavily influenced by the Ancient Greeks it remained and grew to be very much its own unique entity, one that eventually assimilated and replaced Greek culture near all together. What remained of native Greek culture was whatever the Romans saw efficient and or useful enough to incorporate into their own, everything else was either discarded or replaced.
@@LookHereMars
Roman is not a national identity. Roman means Roman citizenship.
Every empire is multiethnic.
Rome city was founded on 753BC ,from Latin ,Etruscan , Greek and Sabine (Lacedemonian origin) ,populations.
These are the names of the 7( 8 ) kings of Rome,from .
Romulus,(Titus Tatius), Numa Pompilius, Tullus Hostilius, Ancus Marcius, Tarquinius Priscus, Servius Tullius, Tarquinius Superbus.
Romulus =Troian , Titus Tatius = sabine from Lacedemonian origin ,Numa Pompilius =sabine from Lacedemonian origin ,Tarquinius Priscus =Etruscan from paternal (Demaratus) corinthian Doric origin ,Tarquinius Superbus granson of Tarquinius Priscus .
Every attempt to dissociate Rome and Roman empire from Greek influence is doomed to failure , from the beginning to the end of the empire.
Byzentine known as roman empire not byzentine empire, the ex scytian hellenic aryans are migrated the china and they mixed with the china they created chinese hellenic kingdome dynasties with queens
@@midnightblue3285Aryan is a Sanskrit word 🇮🇳, has nothing to do with Europe
Eternal glory to our formidable ancestors. For preserving and delivering our Ancient Greek heritage of millenniums, throughout the centuries. 🔥🏛️🇬🇷
Cy coming in with another banger like always
Thanks, glad you're into these and other vids...more on the way, stay safe!
Two peoples have really influenced our world greatly. The ancient Greeks were the first. One can only imagine what the world would be like if Alexander had marched westward instead of East. Would Rome have become an empire?
Yeah that's an interesting point...I'm sure people have come up with alternate history stories of that. It's said that after conquering Arabia, he wanted to head west of Macedon into Europe, so I'm sure he would have eventually come into conflict with the Romans. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Yeah, I heard he might have had beef with Carthage, which aided the Phoenician Cities while he sieged them. And it seems like the Phoenicians were long time rivals of the Greeks.
If Alexander's Empire goes that far, I don't think the Romans would have grown to the same extent. The Greeks had interests in Magna Gaecia, and unlike Pyrrhus of Epirus, this Empire could grind the Romans into the dust if necessary.
Rome benefitted from a nice leveling up period, defeating level appropriate enemies until they finally beat Carthage and became the Hegemon of the Western Med. Then they just had to pit the decadent Daidochi against each other, picking them off one by one, almost on accident.
But the Romans might still distinguish themselves as mercenaries and perhaps eventually part of the Empire. Or they might piss off the Empire and get wrecked. :D
@@shorewall Ah yes because such a large and quickly formed empire would definitely have the time and impetus to beat up on no-name, irrelevant tribes in Italy and wouldn't be totally subsumed by rebellion and usurpation. Macedonian politics were legendarily stable and civil after all
There are so many more peoples than the Greeks and Romans who influenced today's world.. please listen to more of Cy's podcasts 😅 what a tired Eurocentric narrative
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
Still waiting for that video on the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex
It's in the script phase... hopefully by April or May it'll be complete. Stay tuned and safe and thanks for stopping by!
@@HistorywithCy LOL I did not know you had a script I thought you just said what came to mind.
@@javiermandujano35 haha no man, I create a script - not word for word, more like a really thorough outline with important dates and info that I want to make sure I cover so I don't forget anything. It also helps me to focus or else I'd go off on many tangents and keep talking about this stuff forever! Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Oh thanks for clarifying it. And may you stay safe too your like one of the best History Channel's on TH-cam
"GREEK SIGNATURE DNA influence can be seen in Southern Italy and Sicily, where the genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37%, and the southern Balkans"
Di Gaetano, Cornelia; et al. (2009). European Journal of Human Genetics. 17 (1): 91-99
While I do think there is a lot of Greek ancestry in Southern Italy, I don't think that 2009 study was in the position to accertain precise numbers, we still lack iron age samples from modern Greece.
@@g-rexsaurus794 "GREEKS ARE SOME OF THE EARLIEST CONTRIBUTORS OF GENETIC MATERIAL TO THE REST OF THE EUROPEANS AS THEY ARE ONE OF THE OLDEST POPULATIONS IN EUROPE"
Cavalli-Sforza, Luigi Luca; Menozzi, Paolo; Piazza, Alberto (1996). The History and Geography of Human Genes. Princeton University Press. pp. 255-301
@@g-rexsaurus794 Absolutely, but the research mesured the haplogroups (Y-Dna and mtDna) in modern population that were exclusive to ancient greece / greek colonies.
So since it's 37% for just haplogroups the total admixture could be even more.
@@polarysice5748 I agree that should we wait for more studies. Also the relation of modern Greeks and other nations (as Southern Italians, Greek Cypriots) is mainly based on historical, lingual and cultural similarities than genetics. I believe that the modern Greeks have a significant part of ancient greek DNA but they are intermixed too. Also none person globally is genetically genuine, even the ancient greeks were intermixed in some grade, because they have been interacted with many nations throughout history.
@@polarysice5748 There is no reason to assume all the Greek admixture is from colonies, a lot of it was from slaves taken during the Roman conquest of Greece for example, or later Byzantine migration even.
Always look forward to your videos. Informative and enjoyable. Thank you.
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed this! And thank YOU! More to come, stay safe!
Thanks a lot for the great video! I recently felt in love with the ancient Greece and this video is very helpful!
Awesome! The greeks are my favorite ancient peoples. Good work CY!
I like Egypt best to the point I have strong feelings about the creation of a Coptic State.
@@Riftrender, I can't disagree with let me clear my point if I can, I like the idea and mythology of Greece, my favorite city states, were Thebes,Sparta.
Thanks my friend, glad you liked it! More to come for sure, perhaps short histories of individual colonies. Thanks again, stay safe!
Lol they’re the most famous
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
Probably second most number of Greek cities are in Turkiye which is barely mentioned in the video.
Such as: Ephesus, Smyrna, Halicarnassus, Pergamon, Assos, Troy, Priene, Knidos, Phaselis, Side, Antiphellos.
"The Homeric poems were first written down in more or less their present form in the seventh century B.C. Since then GREEK HAS ENJOYED A CONTINUOUS TRADITION DOWN TO THE PRESENT DAY. Change there has certainly been. But there has been no break like that between Latin and Romance languages. Ancient Greek is not a foreign language to the Greek of today as Anglo-Saxon is to the modern Englishman. The only other language which enjoys comparable CONTINUITY OF TRADITION is Chinese."
Browning 1983, p. vii: Medieval and Modern Greek Robert Browning Cambridge University Press, Aug 18, 1983
Nice quote, thanks for sharing...stay safe!
Surely Ancient Greek culture is amazing and is very very imporant. The huge question is /though many Greeks do not wish to talk about it / the one discussing the ethnic structure of today's Greece. i am not sure whether the Greeks today are genetically the same like the Ancient Greeks from Ancient towns. Would be great to see some serious studies about that.
@@Bulgarian021 "GREEKS ARE SOME OF THE EARLIEST CONTRIBUTORS OF GENETIC MATERIAL TO THE REST OF THE EUROPEANS AS THEY ARE ONE OF THE OLDEST POPULATIONS IN EUROPE"
Cavalli-Sforza, Luigi Luca; Menozzi, Paolo; Piazza, Alberto (1996). The History and Geography of Human Genes. Princeton University Press. pp. 255-301
@@Bulgarian021 The genetic decent doesn't matter. The Hellenic civilization is a global heritage, but throughout modern Greek civilization is still alive, and modern Greeks are the main heirs of it, but numerous nations too secondarily. Unfortunately many Greeks don't study ancient Hellenism nowadays and yet boasting about their Hellenic descent , but there are also many young Greeks and foreigners that study Hellenic Civilization in order to retain it, against the decay of time. As a Greek, i hope Hellenic civilization to be retained and to continue influence and to be influenced by other nations, (as always) for humanity's sake.
Great video, would LOVE one about pre-Selene Arcadia,since Hermes and Hercules seem to have their proper origins exactly in that very remote, ancient place!
Excellent video greetings from Greece 🇬🇷
Great video as always! I love how you put extra light on certain colonies such as Cyrene. Awesome content, keep it up!
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! Yeah I want to do some short videos on individual colonies soon, maybe later on this year. Hope all is well on your end and talk soon...stay safe!
I always wanted to learn more about the pre-classical ancient world and this video suddenly popped up in my reccomended. So before I watched the video I took a quick look at your channel and OH MY GOD I instantly subscribed! Keep it up mate!
Thanks, really glad you enjoyed this! More pre-classical content to come, stay safe!
I always wondered how that all played out. Thanks!
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed this! More to come, stay safe!
Nice one, noticed you hadn’t continued the Greek series for a while
Thanks my friend, appreciate it! Yeah, I'll be skipping around the region for a bit but will eventually come back to some Greek-related topics. Seems to be a lot of interest in the Black Sea colonies/cities so could revisit that soon.
As always, thanks so much for your support, really appreciate it! Hope that all is well on your end and stay safe!
This channel is amazing, love your videos
Thank you, glad you enjoy them... more to come, stay safe!
Region still has many Greeks! They speak a form of Greek called Calabrian Greek, deriving from Byzantine Greek.
Georgios mos i u gaboni më shumë kalabrëzët janë arbëresh ose shqiptarë shkoni dhe pyjtni në greqisht dhe dhe shqip çar gjuhe do të marin vesh shqip apo greqisht në rëgull
Actually listened to a series on the Bosporus kingdom. This along with Greek kingdoms of the east have always interested me. Thanks for the video Cy.
My pleasure, thank you for stopping by! I'll try to do more on the Greek cities of the Black Sea region since it seems like many of you are interested in that. Thanks again and stay safe!
Fantastic video! Great visuals
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! Yeah, making the maps are my favorite part of the visuals... was lucky this time to also get some good stock footage. More to come, stay safe!
I look forward to viewing more videos about the Greek colonies. If information is available, include the lesser known ones too.
Will you do one on Byzantium; a little town that really didn't amount to much, but may still be interesting?
Byzantium? I think I've heard of it.
Hahaha yes, for sure! I had once written an article on the history of Constantinople and have thought about using that as a starting point for a video on the subject. I'm hoping by this summer to start putting out content on Roman history, which will lead into the history of Byzantium/Constantinople. Stay tuned my friend! Thanks also for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
The City states are actual colonies and ports .The anicent people you talk about call themselves MACEDONIANS ,while the word greek didnt existed at all . All the artifacts are written with word MACEDON ,MACEDONIA.While non is marked with word greek. Word greek is invented in 19 th cent for the British French and Russian colony made on Pellopenes peninsula on a territory taken over from the OttoMan Empire . They colonized it with arabs norhtern africans and minor asians from their previous colonies . The mixture of those people 95% and colonial masters Russian French Austrian and Biritsh 5% are todays greeks from 20th and 21 st cent. They got no relation with ancient people of the Macedonian penisula that colonized and established the mediteranian and black sea colonies including RO--MA(Ro=Capitol Palace of=Ma= Macedon) or Rome as you call it.
Thank you for your videos. I watched/listened to this, this morning while getting ready for work. Great way to start my day.
Haha yeah a cruise down the Mediterranean and Black seas is not a bad way to start. Seriously though, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy ❤😂😎
22:25 Silphium was used for way more than just a laxative. Just about anything can be used as a Laxative if you misuse in enough. Silphium was worth its weight in Silver or even Gold depending on the source. Hinting that it was at least an amazing seasoning for food. And an actual functional birth control method.
Greetings from a Greek who got banished from my homeland of Pontus by the ''republicans of turkey''
Soon the Greeks will have their lands back
@@KanooPhaPha94 lol it IS not your Land. ..
It is funny when greeks colonise it is acceptsble but when Turks did it is genocide. Hypocrits as always.
@@aghileshemdani3144
It's not yours either, if the serbs hadn't attacked us you would still be in Turkmenistan.
But...we should have been more careful and organized. It's gone now. Forget it. The most important thing is to fix the current condition and keep what we have, though with these governments and IMF still over our heads, it's going to be extremely difficult. No more wars. Just progress!
Excellent, thank you. I’d love for this channel to use consistent Greek spellings and pronunciation, but it is already much better than most.
This is wonderful video, and when i think how many known cities such as Naples, Marseille and other were in fact founded by Ancient Greeks is amazing feeling. Myself have been to Acragas which is known modern town of Agrigento on Sicily, also i have visited Syracuse, very special feelings.
This just shows how dominant the ancient Greeks were, spreading their culture across the Mediterranean Sea and elsewhere. Thanks for another amazing video!
My pleasure, glad you liked it! More ancient Greek history to come, stay safe!
It shows how effective trade and other sorts of soft power are at spreading your civilization.
Greeks weren't dominant, they didn't replace anyone but the East Sicilians and were oftentimes on the defensive.
@@g-rexsaurus794 I was thinking more of the Phoenicians, boats can carry people, culture, and DNA far.
There's an ancient bronze age Greek settlement in Istria, Croatia called Monkodonja close to the modern coastal town of Rovinj. It was an ancient settlement of bronze age Greeks that were massacred by their Illyrian neighbors. All there is left now are walled ruins but it was an active settlement of about a thousand people in its time. I visited the site and gave offering of bread and Christian prayers for their pagan souls. After saying my prayers for them I felt the shear terror of their massacre the next night I slept. The bronze age was a very active period of localized conflicts.
Great! Best Regards from Portugal! 🇵🇹
Thanks for yet another outstanding, illustrating documentary!
My pleasure, thank you for always stopping by to watch these, really appreciate it! More on the way, stay safe!
Cy, you did it again! Fabulous content. Everyone should certainly follow this channel.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it and more on the way!
Although Magna Grecia ceased to exist with the Roman conquest of southern Italy two millenia ago, there are still Greek-speaking towns in Puglia where the road signs, etc. are written in the Cirillic alphabet.
is the new Greek alphabet
Greeks dont use the cyrillic alphabet lol..
This is the EXACT information I have been looking around for - this video nailed it..."Introduction to the Greek Colonies"
I watched it from my parteon account, thanks, CY. It is nice to learn something, since I am a huge fan of Crete and other Greek islands . Here I was amazed to learn about Greek colonies in Spain and FR. I did not know about that
Oh nice, haha glad some of you are using that. Yeah I need to put out more on the colonies in France and Spain ... there were several and I could probably do short videos on some of them individually. Thanks again for again for the support, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
He didnt mention a couple more greek city-states in Spain, such as Mainake, Hemeroskopeion, etc.... Emporion for example (just as Massalia) was founded by Phocean refugees after their city was taken by the Persians. Emporion being a colony of its own not really one of Massalia (although was very much likely a trade-partner and under it's influence). Later on Emporion became the second largest and important city in the region after Massalia.
Because you did NOT have a world class education 😮🎉!
Excellent summary of Greek colonies.
Thank you, glad you liked it! I'll do some more on individual colonies soon. Thanks again and stay safe!
8:21 this might be a bit difficult even for Greeks who know a bit of ancient Greek. This is because it is written in Aeolian script, which is right to left and also had some letters differently from the standard Attic Greek you might know. I'll write the text in Attic and miniscule letters, and you can check my response to this for explanation.
ΝΕΣΤΟΡΟΣ ΕΙΜΙ ΕΥΠΟΤΟΝ ΠΟΤΗΡΙΟΝ
ΟΣΔΗ ΤΩΔΕ ΠΙΕΣΙ (ΠΙΕΙ) ΠΟΤΗΡΙΩ, ΑΥΤΙΚΑΚΕΝΟΝ
ΙΜΕΡΟΣ ΑΙΡΕΣΕΙ ΚΑΛΛΙΣΤΕΦΑΝΩ ΑΦΡΟΔΙΤΗΣ
Minuscule:
Νέστορος εἰμὶ εὔποτον ποτήριον. ὃς δὴ τῷδε πιεῖ ποτηρίῳ, αὐτικάκενον ἵμερος αἱρέσει καλλιστεφάνῳ Ἀφροδίτης.
Here one can notice several differences from the standard Greek alphabet that went on to be adopted by Etruscan and Latin. First off, there's the weird S that's missing a line from Greek Σ. This went on to be curved into S. Also, there are no etas and omegas, that only existed in mainland Greece. That's why long e letters and o letters in Latin are written the same as their short counterparts. So ποτήριον here is written with an ε, καλλιστεφάνῳ is with an o and no subscript, and Ἀφροδίτης is written again with an ε and not the η on the inscription. Also, notice in καλλιστεφάνῳ how the λs are written in reverse up down fashion, like reverse L instead of Λ. This is what became L when it was written left to right instead of right to left. And finally, the Θ like letter on the right in the beginning of words isn't actually Θ, because that was e written as an O with an X inside. That letter is actually H, not the Greek eta, but rather h. It's the latter daseia symbol that was initially written as that, then H and then stopped being used like that. However, Latin and from that English inherited the letter. So at some point in Greek, history, Hades and Hellas were written ΗΙΣΤΟΡΙΑ, ΗΑΔΕΣ and ΗΕΛΛΑΣ.
Always wanted tot Know more about this, thanksss man! Great video!
My pleasure, thank you! More to come, probably on a few individual colonies, stay tuned!
Alpha beta gamma Delta Epsilon Zeta.... who else learned the Greek alphabet? Thanks for the video!!! It must take time to put together
I know all the letters, and even speak some Greek, but I can’t remember their order!
*sigh*
Nice stuff! Congratulations!
Greeks are so fascinating their culture is so wonderful. Even today their language and culture is awesome !
Agreed! Thanks for stopping by, appreciate it!
Thenk you for your nice words. You are always welcome in Greece.
I haven't even watched 5 minutes but this channel seems like one of the best history channels on youtube. Immediate sub!
Thanks, glad you found it and appreciate the kind words! More to come on Greek cities in the near future, stay safe!
The name of the country is EL-LAS literally meaning "rock of the Gods". The name Greek (how the west calls Greece) comes from Greakia an ancient kingdom of northwest Greece and the name Yunan (how the East calls Greece) comes from Ionia, another local Hellenic kingdom and colony. Greeks were tribes with common ancestry going back to pre-flood origins and each one had a separate city-state and kingdom, but they all called themselves EL-enes (Greeks).
Ελλάς? Can’t it also be called Ελλάδα?
I'll tell you why these videos are perfect. There's slicker videos with full animation, interviews, exclusive on location video, etc. And we have to wait months for videos like that. Cy is able to pump out quality videos with great info cause he puts the parts that matter ahead of unnecessary production value. Cy has original source quotes, basic animation, and great research, and that's 99% of what makes a great video. Would they be 1% better with interviews with experts, exclusive footage of the ruins visited by CY himself? Full slick and polished animation? Yeah, 1% better, and we'd have to wait 500% longer for each video. The current Cy vids are the perfect balance.
It's comments like this that make my day... I appreciate the kind words but also the constructive feedback. Let's me know what you all like about these and maybe places where I can improve. Seriously, thanks for info! Haha actually when it's safer/easier to travel overseas, I do hope to visit some of these places and create my own footage to put in the videos, maybe later on in the year if everything works out. Anyway, thanks again, really appreciate it and more to come in the near future. Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy There's ways to improve but also a cost to every benefit. Would it be cool if you did personal interviews with experts and were able to edit in quotes from them? Yes. But if it means you only make half as many videos is it worth it? No. I'd rather get 20 great videos instead of one extra great video. Would it be cool to have full animation or costumed reenactments? Yes. But if you putting effort into that means we get 20% less videos total it's not worth what it costs. Right now your videos are so jam-packed with info that I have to (get to) watch them multiple times. First viewing I retain the general overview, second viewing I go back in and pause and rewatch some parts, cause there's so many places and dates and connections, and then I watch a few more times just for fun, and often come back to old videos when a subject you covered comes up on a podcast or something. I still watch your Sea People's video every few months and send it to people when the bronze age collapse comes up in conversation. Why does it come up in conversation so much? Cause I'm a nerd and talk about ancient history a lot. Also cause civilization is collapsing around us and there's a lot of parallels. Systems Collapse 2KXX! Anyway, if - and only if - you can get interviews and on-site footage and slick animation with MINIMAL EFFORT would I encourage you to do it, because what I value most is that you hit the important points; good research/topics, primary source quotes, and some relevant animation and pictures so it's more than just an audio lecture. If each give has 100 possible points of enjoyment, you're giving me 99 several times a month, and that adds up to several hundred a month, which is better than a single video every two months that hits the full 100. Once you can travel I hope you do, you do so much for us and for the history community on TH-cam with these videos you make, so you absolutely deserve to have fun. Just remember to not become too much of a perfectionist and end up making less videos total.
If fans have any influence on where you visit to get footage: Meroë, Gebel Barkal, Khartoum, Kerma, Naqada.
I would love to hear more about the Greek colonies along the Black Sea!
One day my friend, I'll put together something separate about that. Seems like it's a popular request from many of you! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...more to come, stay safe!
A fun fact in the story from Herodotous, is that the island of Thera that colonised Lybia is in the modern day called Santorini island which is super famous for instagram purposes and not for its facinating history. Greeting and lots of love to our Lybian brothers from Thera!
Very enjoyable video, amazing channel!
Another interesting video; the black sea episode will be great.
Yes, I definitely want to explore that region more on this channel, including its colonies. Stay tuned, have a few short episodes on this region. Thanks for stopping by and stay safe!
Super informative, love this video!
Thanks my friend, glad you enjoyted this! More to come, stay safe!
Fascinating🖖🏼, much appreciate the work you put in to these top shelf historical productions👌🏻
My pleasure, really glad that you like them! More to come, stay safe!
Get outta mah brain! I was just researching early Greek colonies and here you are! Thanks Cy! Great vid as always!
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it and glad the timing of this was spot on! More to come in the near future, stay safe!
Half of my ancestors come from southern Italy (Naples and Calabria) and knew about the greek colonies. So I always wondered if I have some Greek in my blood family.
yes you have
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Jo nuk kini gjak grek po gjak shqiptari në Kalabri flitet vetëm arbërisht
Incredible video as always, thanks again Cy!
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed this... more to come, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Your history from Sumer to middle bronze era and then the later Assyrian/Persian/Babylonian/Phoenician/Greeks warrants a medal. I bow and once again thank you for your hard work. Crack on and don't look back if you can.
@@anasevi9456 pleasure's all mine. I loved making that last Sumerian video...took a while but was fun for me to do. In future I'll do one on Babylonian and maybe a revamp, longer version of Assyrian history - that or just a really long podcast. Thanks again for the support, really appreciate it!
Being from Sardinia, I would like to add that my island, unlike the other territories of southern Italy, was not really involved in the Greek colonisation except marginally. The only territories of Sardinia influenced by the Greek presence were those of Olbia on the north-eastern coast and Sarroch on the southern coast.
Olbia Is a City founded by Greek colonists from the region of Phocis . And then were founded by the Greeks also other cities with the name of Olbia, including one on the French Mediterranean coast and another on the Black Sea. The name of those cities derives from the adjective olbios which means happy.
In the southern territory of Sardinia around Sarroch are attested exchanges with the Mycenaean culture.
Love all your videos Cy. Very educational and informative. You can add migration (as to the US Southern boarder currently) a reason people move. Natural Disasters (yourself have reported the multiple Vocanos) WAR, pestilence and famine, all reasons people "leave the place they love".... When you start connecting dots between time and place and society, your viewers will triple. Love ya Cy!
Hello from cyrene (cyrenaica) ♥️
Man its just lovely finding new history based youtube chanels.
Haven’t watched it yet but always love your videos when I can find time to watch them! Is there a particular time period/group/nation etc. that you haven’t covered yet that you want to, OR a group you’d want to talk about but there is barely enough historical records about them?
No worries my friend, take your time! Hope that you enjoy it! Yes, there are a few... a few in the Americas, some steppe societies - basically civilizations that we know little about because they either didn't have a written language or other people didn't write much about them. Cimmerians would also be a good one... others (Greeks, Assyrians) have written about them, but they left few if any material remains so technically we don't know too much about them. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
I have always wanted to learn about Ancient Greek colonies .thanks for making this video 🙂
My pleasure, really glad you liked it! I'll see if I can put together more stuff on some individual colonies... most of them have really interesting stories! Thanks again and stay safe!
I missread the thumbnail and thought at first it said "Geek Colonies" and had a picture in my head of a City State of Star Trek Fans next to a City State of Pokemon Fans.... they were at war with the "My little pony" People...
Real geeks will eat band and fanboy geeks for breakfast
This was awesome as usual Cy. Love your work. From two fans from Down Under.
Hey, great to hear from you and hope all is well Down Under! Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Men at work plays in the distance...
Great stuff! The first mystery in Greek history, and the vein to the impulse behind colonies, are the Pelasgians. Everything else is ancillary.
wow so many sources informations, thanks for the video!!!
Fun fact: the inscription on the cup of Nestor is talking about the modern day equivalent of “beer goggles”
Not to pick nits, but the temple shown at 12:03 is actually in Agrigento.
Yes, you're correct, that was an error I made. Thanks for pointing it out, appreciate it!
6:36 “Hello noble ones, this is the Metatron speaking.”
faboulus work, congrats for all your videos.
Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
This was really informative and interesting. Would love to see a video about Greek colonies in southern Russia, Ukraine and Crimea
Thank you for an interesting and insightful video.
My pleasure, thank you for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Hi ..i am sudanese student in history field (just first year)
I appreciate what do you do ..
I just subscribed on your channel ,because i interesting in your content ..
but i am not a very good in English (excatly in historian phrases)
i will keep watching you to improve my historian language and take general idea about history
Thanks, glad you liked this! I'm thinking of putting captions in the videos so maybe this will help. More to come, stay safe!
In love with this channel. Hidden gem this ❤
to this day, Marseille is still nicknamed "the Phocean City"...
Hi, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Yeah, I think I read that somewhere...thanks for sharing. More to come, stay safe!
Of cause this is much later, but I have learned that for many generations, there has been a well integrated Greek diaspora in East Africa. To be precise in Tanzania. They have been here for hundreds of years and are a part of the general population. A few have Greek inspired restaurants, not for tourists but for the general public in Tanzania. They are nice, well integrated people. Custos to them
Outstanding!
Thanks so much, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
Thank you very much Cy for these great capsuls, I also enjoy your lectures !
Thank you, glad you liked it! More to come to come for sure, stay safe!
Miletus and other strong Asia Minor Greeks also had trade towns or sections in the nile delta, only one was from mainland Greece