thank you for letting me in your group. I am a 76 yr. EX.Seal Team member that shoots only 22cal. rifles.my best is a Winchester 52b bull barrel with a Lyman super target spot 20X dot scope. I have shot a .32 5shot group using Ten-X ammo. We also shoot 100M, 200M,300M, targets. thanks agan.
I have a CZ452 American, beautiful trigger. I also have a Brno that I bought new 31 years ago. At 100 meters the Brno is the better shooter with a heavier trigger. I do appreciate your .22LR shootouts and the info I glean from you. Keep it up and thanks - NZ
Thanks for all you do now & for your service to your country. I love the 22 rifle videos, especially the game challenge ones that you do. I just pulled the trigger on a Savage TR & can’t wait to shoot flys with it. 🤣. Greetings from WNY.
If you shoot side to side and then move down you will have a lot less adjustments needed. I love your videos. much love from North Idaho. Your videos are the best. thanks for your great videos and information that has non bias content.
thanks for another great video-i like what i see in the savage-i might need one of these-now shooting savage/anschults mark 10-hope to get to the range this week
Thank you for loving and respecting your wife. The world would be a better place if more men had your attitude and were proud of being one equal half of a married couple!
DATR, good shooting with that Eley, I just picked 500 rounds of CCI-STD for $49.99 "new lot " and shoots pretty good out of my 82G, as you see the $27 bricks are a thing of the past !! I assume things will settle down in the near future something like $35-$40 for a brick but you'll never see $27 anytime soon.
I can tell you love to shoot as I do. From an Old almost Marine to an old Ex-Marine if I live close to you I would be proud to have you shoot my 455 trainer or 457 varminter CZ`s Or my Anshutz 1416 AV THX. I have done a little Bench rest shooting and it seems besides the rifles you have the bullets and the lead on those bullet may be a little out of balance weight wise. I have many bricks of those CCI standard velocity however they don`t have a date or price tag on them. They maybe as old as 2014 but I can`t say for sure. Keep up the good videos.
Awesome video again. Really enjoyed it. When`s the next one(?) I`ve still got quite a few bricks i bought for $7.99 (per brick of 500rds) I guess that`ll tell how long ago that was, lol (somewhere around 40yrs ago)
An old friend passed away a while back. His family knew I used to hunt with him so they gave me his ammo stash. I received some 30-06 and a 500 round carton of .22 ammo. Both had an oshmans price tag of 5.99. He probably bought them in the '80s.
I wear reading glasses, but I like to leave the glasses off and adjust the scope to my eye only. When I am shooting with iron sights I wear the glasses and I try to turn my head so I am looking more straight ahead instead of out of the corner of my eye.
"That was terrific Eli...just look at the improvement over the last video." Try not to race the clock, just shoot like each shot is the only shot you get all day. Remember 'OS-OK' - 'One shot - one kill'. One thing I have noticed with the Caldwell rests...if I don't lock the mariners screw (elevation) my rest will have some wobble, it's not really 'rock solid' steady...that can be part of your flier problem. I don't lock the mariners screw down 'tight', I just snug the lock nob lightly & that takes any wobble from the rest. A good friend over on CastBoolits, 'tazman' mentioned that just .005" of barrel movement will translate to about 1/2" @ 50 yards. (don't hold me to that number, I'm going off memory) so it behooves us to take every measure we can to eliminate our problems with the rest and especially our 'cheek weld'... You got it going lil'Brother! ... charlie
Savage knows how to pull a button through the barrel. My TR is as accurate as my Bergara. I reduced the trigger pull in my TR to 9oz. It's all about Lot numbers. Even Eley Tenex must be Lot tested.
I want a benchrest 22 and I'm about to drop the hammer on a CZ At 1, or probably an MTR. Went to the store just yesterday and held this Savage TR selling for like $495 and really liked it. Not a competitor but like shooting different ammo for fun, but usually shoot CCI Std V or Aguila SE, or Fed Auto Match...Will this Savage "satisfy" my groups, or Do I need a MTR?? Help?
I have a Savage MKII TR and I like it alot. I rarely use a rest so not good insight for this kind of shooting. I like to say, tries to be a CZ. I think I paid mid $300s after not being able to find a good used CZ.
@@artsmith103 I replaced the original TR stock after it cracked at 30 in/lbs. I now have a Boyds Rimfire Hunter. No issues with 30 in/lbs on the two action screws. The groups really tightened up at that setting.
Thanks and I enjoy your videos. Nice shooting. You'll never get your best from those wonderful guns with cci standard. Although I really enjoy shooting cci standard ( I keep several bricks on hand) it is not a match ammo. My 457 can do sub 1/2 moa groups at 100 yards with good match ammo but cci just can't compete. It's hard to compare two rifles with less than ideal ammo. Not dissing CCI standard but just my observation. Thanks again.
CCI-SV is alot better than bulk ammo by far. I buy all i can, because its far cheaper than MATCH ammo. (and i`m feeding my wife`s 22 hobby too) I dont shoot major competition, nore will i ever, so CCI-SV works fine for plinking, for me, in my CZ457LUX. My wife shoots CCI-SV in her Ruger American rimfire, that gun LOVES it.
I have shot my friends 452 standard barrel and it is very accurate. I have a Savage Mark ii f standard barrel and it also is very accurate. The two guns are very similar, with the CZ having a better finish and bluing.
I like your "no-fly zone" target. On another note, when picking the best ammo for a rimfire (or center-fire, for that matter), 50 or 100-shot groups will tell you the most. I'd like see a video on that. Nice video, good work.
Phillip are you saying 50 and 100 yard groups of the same ammo? I have other video's of 50 yard groups and a couple of 100 yards. Try to hit the 100yards when it is less windy.
@@Dayattherange he’s saying shoot the whole box out of a case of ammo and see how good that case of ammo should be . If you do that between 10 cases then use the best case for your competition ammo or get a idea of there was a off day at the factory and 4 out of 100 have 5% less charge or primer consistency.
So I feel it would be more consistent to shoot from left to right rather then up to down . My thinking is ; that jacking the stand up and down is a less uniform process versus staying on the same row and then jacking the stand..
Your zero seems to be off, IMO. When shooting match sticks, I zero POA/POI at he distance needed, then proceed to shoot score. (Sorry, have only shot live flies off targets, so may need to make some of your targets to practice.) Good shooting, for sure. Don't have a CZ to compare, but my Savage BTV will give any rifle a run for the money, but it only shoots RWS with any consistent accuracy. My Ruger Precision does like CCO/std, but it isn't as accurate as the Savage. Still, a great little rifle for the money. Fun watching your vids, so please keep doin' what you're doin'.
My guess is your gun, like mine, doesn’t like CCI SV. Mine don’t like Green Tag either. SK semi-auto shot my best group ever with my CZ 457mtr. Thanks for the video.
Just picked myself up a second hand 455 Competition heavy fluted barrel with thumb hole laminated stock Ive topped it with a Japanese weaver grand slam 6-20 with fine duplex with the small target dot With the yo dave trigger Firearms here in newzleand th they don’t come cheap retail on a new cz457 is arround $1000-$1300 ($920 usd)
I did you one better, I actually took out a real fly this past summer (@50yds) with a brand new 16.5” CZ457MTR on its first range trip. Got it on my third try as it crawled across my target. All that was left on paper was a hole surrounded with fly splatter. That 457 is now in an Oryx chassis and is a great 100 yd shooter.
@@Dayattherange My Dads thinks they are from the 60 possible. It is a box of 50. I should have clarified it was a b of 50. They were for his old Marlin.
thank you for letting me in your group. I am a 76 yr. EX.Seal Team member that shoots only 22cal. rifles.my best is a Winchester 52b bull barrel with a Lyman super target spot 20X dot scope. I have shot a .32 5shot group using Ten-X ammo. We also shoot 100M, 200M,300M, targets. thanks agan.
I had a Savage Mark II TR and CZ 455 Varmint. Both were great rifles. You cant lose with either one.
That's awesome. Thanks for taking the time. God bless you and yours.
I have a CZ452 American, beautiful trigger. I also have a Brno that I bought new 31 years ago. At 100 meters the Brno is the better shooter with a heavier trigger. I do appreciate your .22LR shootouts and the info I glean from you. Keep it up and thanks - NZ
Thanks for all you do now & for your service to your country. I love the 22 rifle videos, especially the game challenge ones that you do. I just pulled the trigger on a Savage TR & can’t wait to shoot flys with it. 🤣. Greetings from WNY.
Oh Rich let me know how it shoots and submit your target for the challenge -- I believe it will be an awesome fly swatter for you 😁😁
If you shoot side to side and then move down you will have a lot less adjustments needed. I love your videos. much love from North Idaho. Your videos are the best. thanks for your great videos and information that has non bias content.
That Savage is giving the CZ a run for the money! Excellent shooting and narration!
Brother, I enjoyed the video!👍👍
thanks for another great video-i like what i see in the savage-i might need one of these-now shooting savage/anschults mark 10-hope to get to the range this week
Thank you for loving and respecting your wife. The world would be a better place if more men had your attitude and were proud of being one equal half of a married couple!
The 457 shoots just as good, I just picked one up and it has become my favorite.
DATR, good shooting with that Eley, I just picked 500 rounds of CCI-STD for $49.99 "new lot "
and shoots pretty good out of my 82G, as you see the $27 bricks are a thing of the past !!
I assume things will settle down in the near future something like $35-$40 for a brick but
you'll never see $27 anytime soon.
I can tell you love to shoot as I do. From an Old almost Marine to an old Ex-Marine if I live close to you I would be proud to have you shoot my 455 trainer or 457 varminter CZ`s Or my Anshutz 1416 AV THX. I have done a little Bench rest shooting and it seems besides the rifles you have the bullets and the lead on those bullet may be a little out of balance weight wise. I have many bricks of those CCI standard velocity however they don`t have a date or price tag on them. They maybe as old as 2014 but I can`t say for sure. Keep up the good videos.
I’ve been enjoying the content a lot lately. Thanks @Dayattherange!
I picked up 10 boxes of standard velocity cci at Walmart 5he other day for 3.99; a box. Great ammo
Awesome video again. Really enjoyed it. When`s the next one(?)
I`ve still got quite a few bricks i bought for $7.99 (per brick of 500rds)
I guess that`ll tell how long ago that was, lol (somewhere around 40yrs ago)
Loving the fly target challenge. 🤣🤣.
Nothing like fly swatting
An old friend passed away a while back. His family knew I used to hunt with him so they gave me his ammo stash. I received some 30-06 and a 500 round carton of .22 ammo. Both had an oshmans price tag of 5.99. He probably bought them in the '80s.
I wear reading glasses, but I like to leave the glasses off and adjust the scope to my eye only.
When I am shooting with iron sights I wear the glasses and I try to turn my head so I am looking more straight ahead instead of out of the corner of my eye.
What rest were you using making this video? Looks really nice.
"That was terrific Eli...just look at the improvement over the last video."
Try not to race the clock, just shoot like each shot is the only shot you get all day. Remember 'OS-OK' - 'One shot - one kill'.
One thing I have noticed with the Caldwell rests...if I don't lock the mariners screw (elevation) my rest will have some wobble, it's not really 'rock solid' steady...that can be part of your flier problem. I don't lock the mariners screw down 'tight', I just snug the lock nob lightly & that takes any wobble from the rest.
A good friend over on CastBoolits, 'tazman' mentioned that just .005" of barrel movement will translate to about 1/2" @ 50 yards. (don't hold me to that number, I'm going off memory) so it behooves us to take every measure we can to eliminate our problems with the rest and especially our 'cheek weld'... You got it going lil'Brother! ... charlie
Savage knows how to pull a button through the barrel. My TR is as accurate as my Bergara. I reduced the trigger pull in my TR to 9oz. It's all about Lot numbers. Even Eley Tenex must be Lot tested.
I want a benchrest 22 and I'm about to drop the hammer on a CZ At 1, or probably an MTR. Went to the store just yesterday and held this Savage TR selling for like $495 and really liked it. Not a competitor but like shooting different ammo for fun, but usually shoot CCI Std V or Aguila SE, or Fed Auto Match...Will this Savage "satisfy" my groups, or Do I need a MTR?? Help?
I have a Savage MKII TR and I like it alot. I rarely use a rest so not good insight for this kind of shooting.
I like to say, tries to be a CZ. I think I paid mid $300s after not being able to find a good used CZ.
@@artsmith103 I replaced the original TR stock after it cracked at 30 in/lbs. I now have a Boyds Rimfire Hunter. No issues with 30 in/lbs on the two action screws. The groups really tightened up at that setting.
Thanks and I enjoy your videos. Nice shooting. You'll never get your best from those wonderful guns with cci standard. Although I really enjoy shooting cci standard ( I keep several bricks on hand) it is not a match ammo. My 457 can do sub 1/2 moa groups at 100 yards with good match ammo but cci just can't compete.
It's hard to compare two rifles with less than ideal ammo. Not dissing CCI standard but just my observation. Thanks again.
CCI-SV is alot better than bulk ammo by far. I buy all i can, because its far cheaper than MATCH ammo. (and i`m feeding my wife`s 22 hobby too)
I dont shoot major competition, nore will i ever, so CCI-SV works fine for plinking, for me, in my CZ457LUX.
My wife shoots CCI-SV in her Ruger American rimfire, that gun LOVES it.
@@D70340 I give my wife Federal Automatch or Winchester white box lol.
Good channel. Thanks. Subscribed.
Appreciate the support Gary K
What's your thoughts on magnum research. Love your enthusiasm,I have one in ,22 lr and .22 magnum and .17 hmr .
I just purchased the Ransom rest, and I’m curious as to how your forend stop works? Mine didn’t come with one so I’m looking into one.
I have shot my friends 452 standard barrel and it is very accurate. I have a Savage Mark ii f standard barrel and it also is very accurate. The two guns are very similar, with the CZ having a better finish and bluing.
Me to the Missus, " CZ has this new 457 model. How do you want that gift wrapped?"
I like your "no-fly zone" target. On another note, when picking the best ammo for a rimfire (or center-fire, for that matter), 50 or 100-shot groups will tell you the most. I'd like see a video on that. Nice video, good work.
Phillip are you saying 50 and 100 yard groups of the same ammo? I have other video's of 50 yard groups and a couple of 100 yards. Try to hit the 100yards when it is less windy.
@@Dayattherange he’s saying shoot the whole box out of a case of ammo and see how good that case of ammo should be . If you do that between 10 cases then use the best case for your competition ammo or get a idea of there was a off day at the factory and 4 out of 100 have 5% less charge or primer consistency.
If you or competing you would want to check your consistency of your ammo if you aren’t hand loading
I think both rifles shot great. I'd be happy with either one in my safe
Nice shooting Big Guy . Steve from Australia.
Thanks Steve -- Still pushing for better squeeze everything out of it I can.
So I feel it would be more consistent to shoot from left to right rather then up to down . My thinking is ; that jacking the stand up and down is a less uniform process versus staying on the same row and then jacking the stand..
I agree, I shoot the USBR 25 bull target, 5 rows of 5 bulls. Much simpler and consistent to shoot left to right.
What color is that Boyds stock? Very nice looking
Your zero seems to be off, IMO. When shooting match sticks, I zero POA/POI at he distance needed, then proceed to shoot score. (Sorry, have only shot live flies off targets, so may need to make some of your targets to practice.) Good shooting, for sure. Don't have a CZ to compare, but my Savage BTV will give any rifle a run for the money, but it only shoots RWS with any consistent accuracy. My Ruger Precision does like CCO/std, but it isn't as accurate as the Savage. Still, a great little rifle for the money. Fun watching your vids, so please keep doin' what you're doin'.
My guess is your gun, like mine, doesn’t like CCI SV. Mine don’t like Green Tag either. SK semi-auto shot my best group ever with my CZ 457mtr. Thanks for the video.
I don’t like flies either 😂 but I love my CZ’s 👍👍.
I just got cci standard velocity at Walmart yesterday it was $3.5 for 50 not $27 for brick but not bad
Anything else done to the MK.II besides the chassis? I have a MK.I & MK.II and for the money they shoot well.
Take the leap and get a 457 MTR, ad some top quality glass, the rifle deserves it and you will never be sorry.
Bad influence you are bad influence sir 😁
Hey, so I have the stock savage mark two F series. What’s the main differences in mine compared to your TR?
Because of the black body of the fly within the target it's tough for older eyes to see the bullet hole. The Savage and shooter shot good groups.
What is the brand of your shooting rest?
Who is the manufacturer of the rest you're using in this video? I been trying to read it but no luck. Your videos are always enjoyable.
It's a Ransom rest. Awesome piece of gear!
Legs are hits IMHO!
I know this is a little late, but I need to ask what rest that is ??
I found some norma tac 22 at $12 for 50 rds. Seems to be the norrm nowadays
Oh they say CCI standard velocity TARGET on the box if that makes a difference.
Looks like the Savage edged out the CZ to me!
Why would you shoot columns instead of rows? Beautiful rifles.
Come on man!!!
I think you need to dump the standard velocity and pick up some CCI Subsonics. My wife's Mark II loves them. 1/4" to 3/8" spreads.
You should ask the wife about buying a 457 MTR I think you would like the stock it’s a Different grip but man it’s nice when you get used to it
Totally agree. Best $650 I’ve spent in a target grade 22lr. My Bergara B-14 is the best $950 I’ve spent.
Just picked myself up a second hand 455 Competition heavy fluted barrel with thumb hole laminated stock
Ive topped it with a Japanese weaver grand slam 6-20 with fine duplex with the small target dot
With the yo dave trigger
Firearms here in newzleand th they don’t come cheap retail on a new cz457 is arround $1000-$1300 ($920 usd)
Those flies never had a chance...
Them flies was dodging your bullets
You do need a 457! You can find a way!
Young man, some of those flies got in the Buttermilk!
Not good for me considering I like buttermilk biscuits and buttermilk n cornbread. 😂😂😂
When you look at the CZ group's on the fly's, had it been 1/4" left it would 4 won
Check rimfire central. Guy from Bama may be able to hook you up on some dat thar Eley Club exxer.
Looks like the wind was getting you.
I did you one better, I actually took out a real fly this past summer (@50yds) with a brand new 16.5” CZ457MTR on its first range trip. Got it on my third try as it crawled across my target. All that was left on paper was a hole surrounded with fly splatter. That 457 is now in an Oryx chassis and is a great 100 yd shooter.
Nice shot
Dang, defied by the flies! 🤷♂️
Try it with a Kid 10 22 next time. You’ll sell your other rifles lol
LOL I have old 22 ammo from my dads vault with a price tag of 89c tag still on it.
A whole brick for 89c? WOW I don't think I have EVER seen such in my lifetime.
@@Dayattherange My Dads thinks they are from the 60 possible. It is a box of 50. I should have clarified it was a b of 50. They were for his old Marlin.
Building me a Frankin CZ 457 so I can join in the fun with u and Dm…! #ArmyRetired
Don't think the CZ likes CCI Standard
Legs = no hit. 😢
Kinda makes you buggy eyed.
LOL
At times it looked like the target was dancing around a little. That doesn't help anything.
Use ammoseek to find the cheapest ammo across the country at any given time