Battle of Edgehill 1642 - English Civil War Begins - DOCUMENTARY
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Kings and Generals historical animated documentary series on the history of the Early Modern Era and the English civil war continues with a video on the battle of Edgehill fought in 1642. Previously we discussed the reasons why the Civil War happened. In this episode we will see how the Parliamentarian and Royalist forces started to form up and how it led to the first battles of the war. In this series we will cover the main battles of the civil war between the Royalists and the Parliamentarians, including Edgehill, Newsbury, Marstoon Moor, Naseby, Preston, Drogheda, Dunbar and others
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It's a strange map you've used. The Ouse and the Trent meet, but don't flow to the sea.
I wish we had educational resources like this when I was at school, it would have made learning far more engaging than it subsequently was. I am thankful for the brilliant teachers I had who made the best of boring textbooks.
Guys, one question, Are you still planning to make the thirty years war in 2 hours documentary? like combine all parts?
Can't wait till you do Montrose Campaign in Scotland
The "Royalist Cavalry wins and then leaves the field" is going to become something of a running theme, by the way.
NOOOOOO why ;(
Thanks for the spoiler rando guy
Also Charles having victory at his hands and letting it go by doing something different
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Spoilers
I'm sure that after Edgehill, Prince Rupert will realize he should remain on the field of battle until the engagement is decided. I look forward to seeing him turn the flanks of the Parliamentary forces in the next battle, and bring the English Civil War to a quick and decisive end with minimal bloodshed.
he was a cavalry commander at this point under a unified command of infantry artillery and cavalry. He would later take command of the entire Royalist Army but at the time he had to contend with others both in council and in court.
Man, I really hope I don’t get dissapointed.
@@SantomPh he was a cavalry command who was great at leading his calvary to victory and terrible at actually taking advantage of that.
well this is not total war game where every units are listening to commander
Lol, Boye (sic) are you going to be dissapointed.
Edgehill was the baptism of fire for a then approximately 22 year old William Hiseland, who would serve in the English and later British armies for an unprecedented 70 plus years, only dying in 1732 at the claimed age of 111. Hiseland is known to have fought at the Battle of Malplaquet in 1709 at the age of 89, serving as a sergeant in an infantry battalion and reportedly still possessing the strength of a man three generations younger. If true, he was the last surviving soldier of the English Civil War, and he was in it from the very beginning.
Bloody Malplaquet
That's insane! To live to the triple 1 back in those days wax unheard of
And what felled this English Methuselah?
@@ronmaximilian6953 I don't know what exactly. He was a Chelsea Pensioner but had to leave when he married at age 103(!) but returned when he outlived his wife and he died soon after.
“English Man Literally Too Loyal to Die”
Crazy to think how different things could have been if the royalist cavalry had more discipline
the issue was not that they kept chasing the enemy but that they stopped to loot, which made them incredibly difficult to regroup and heavier in the saddle. Rupert tried in vain to get his flank to wheel around quickly but they were not really keen on listening to the King's German nephew. Cavalry is lightning quick if it stays together and mounted, but if they dismount and gather loot or supplies their mobility is taken away.
Charles' artillery was also foolishly placed on top of the hill, making the cannon fire little more than divot making near the river. Had he deployed them on the river bank itself between the infantry the war might have ended there as the Parliament army was not mobile enough to dodge artillery.
This is a case of generals of high social rank playing soldier without actually trying to consider the battlefield situation. Rupert was the only true professional and experienced officer here, but he was also an arrogant prince who sneered at the English nobility and their ideas.
Thats the issue with most Cavalry engagements. You need to persue less the enemy has time to regroup and reform, but at the same time you NEED those cavalry forces to smash into the center from the flanks.
It's a conondrum really which only works if the respective cavalry commander has reliable sub-commanders to which he then is able to relay orders in order to achieve both. Send enough Cav after the fleeing enemy Cav to make sure they dont reform and still have enough men left to attack the center.
From a Great Man theory perspective, that would have made a difference. From the perspective of other theories, slight changes leading to Royalist victories would have at best extended the initial phases of the war, and done little to nothing to reverse the things that made the war happen.
@@FoxtrotYouniform yeah well if Pope Gregarious MXVVII had used the other restroom we would all be purple and speak Swahili
@@FoxtrotYouniform I think the war was still small enough that a good leader could turn the outcome of a battle and several such battles the war.
That wouldn't roll back the causes but would change the result.
Maybe decades later they would cause another conflict but a lot could happen in that time which might address the causes or cause then to become obsolete.
i think a short focus video comparing the royalist and parlimentary troops would be helpful. how they were recruited, their uniforms, how they got their nicknames and their commanders.
great vid as always.
Very good idea, thank you for the awesome comment/idea
The recruitment and arming would be incredibly similar.
would love to see this
It depends when and where during the English Civil War. The book "Worcestershire Under Arms: An English County During the Civil Wars" by Malcolm Atkin describes in detail what recruitment was like during the war in what was for most of it a frontier county. Basically at the start of the war every county had a militia (Cities such as London had trained bands which were similar), they were an excuse for the lads that wanted to, to turn out every so often to play at soldering and then go down to the pub.
The two rabbles who met at Edgehill had some experience officers who had fought in the 30 years war, but think of the early years of the Bosnian War (1992-1995), rather than the well trained coalition soldiers who fought the First Gulf War (1991).
Once the New Model Army was created it was another matter. Winston Churchill summed it up thus "The Story of the Second English Civil War is short and simple. King, Lords and Commons, landlords, merchants, the City and the countryside, bishops and presbyters, the Scottish army, the Welsh people, and the English Fleet, all now turned against the New Model Army. The Army beat the lot!"
Stuart Asquith argues that the roots of the British Army spring from the New Model Army before 1660: "Many authorities quote the Restoration of 1660 as the birth date of our modern British Army. While this may be true as far as continuity of unit identity is concerned, it is untrue in a far more fundamental sense. The evidence of history shows that the creation of an efficient military machine [, The New Model Army,] and its proving on the battlefield, predates the Restoration by 15 years. It was on the fields of Naseby, Dunbar and Dunes that the foundations of the British professional army were laid."
Fun fact - the Parliamentarian cavalry who deserted to the Royalist side were led by the inaptly named Sir Faithful Fortescue. Many of these men forgot the remove the sash that identified them as Parliamentarian, and were killed by the Royalist cavalry.
It’s crazy to think that literally everywhere in the 1600s was consumed by war at some point. Never a dull day
Even during war's darkest days, in most places around the world, absolutely nothing happens.
Like nowadays? 🤷♂️
@@kdo-double-g4269 blackfish leave TH-cam and help Stannis!
@@santymartin7383 Ha! I’m glad someone got it.
@@kdo-double-g4269 Well yes, but there are very clear times when everything was going to hell, and just like a war today affects people outside of the countries at war, so it did back then. I'd much rather live in Europe at almost any point of the 1500's than the 1600's, especially when it comes to central Europe. The weather kept getting colder, overfishing was a serious issue in the baltic, 30 years war, all the religious fighting and bullshittery, plagues and other diseases, hell most of our sort of ''dark medieval'' tropes in fantasy actually come from the 17th century, witch hunts and all.
I don't know how far you're planning on going on this but any coverage of the Leveller revolts and the various radical groups of the aftermath of the Civil Wars (Levellers, Ranters, Diggers, Fifth Monarchists etc) would be great!
I remember doing this for A-level, a lot more fun when you don’t have to write essays on the topic.
I’m from banbury, had to double take when I heard it in the video! One of the local pubs, the Reinedeer inn claims one of the generals had his headquarters there. Strange to hear the place I’ve grown up in mentioned in a video
I went to school on the grounds where a doomsday oak is located. This tree is known as the Doomsday Oak, for its association with William the Conqueror. It was one of two saplings given by the king to the then owners of Holton Park.
You should screen this video at the Reinedeer Inn!
The tiny castle built at the top of Edgehill is now a pub. A truly English fate for a historic building.
How is the beer? And fish-n-chips?
@@kirbyculp3449 Beer is all the imported expensive dry lagers. But I have it on good word that the food is very nice - although also quite expensive. I think they also have a few rooms that they let guests say in, one being in the tower of the castle.
Yes! Been waiting for Civil War stuff, hugely underatted. I feel it could be a great series like Rome, as there were so many iconic charatcers.
I would watch the hell out of that
I had no idea about this Civil War. Its fascinating. 😎👍
Being American, I thought history started at 1776. 😂
@@apexnext Lol, my house is older than that.
@@jonbaxter2254 my local pub is from 1368 and saw action in the civil war, being attacked by Prince Rupert's troops.
Do u know which of the long Roman civil war vids are first?
You guys should do a series about Henry Morgan and his raids against the Spanish empire in the 1600s. There are very little thorough documentaries on this topic.
Confused how someone with a British accent pronounce Berwick as "bear-wick". It's pronounced Behr-rick like oil DERRICK. Shrewsbury is "Shr-rows-bree" and Derby is "DARBY".
I think he is from elsewhere and puts on an accent, as he has mis-read places before in the Viking video.
Shrewsbury is both, most people from Shrewsbury actually pronounce it as "Shrews-bury"
I beleive he's Canadian. I do wish the writers would provide the narrators with pronounciation guides.
He is Canadian lol
I mean my family are down the road from Shrewsbury (telford area), and nobody in that area pronounces it Shrowsbury
10:50 I literally live in Wellington. I never thought this tiny town would ever be mentioned on a sizable TH-cam channel like K&G :)
Finally, this period of history is fascinating and often not covered enough
Traditional Scottish weapons:
-Claymore
-Dirk
-Stool
While often maligned and overlooked, when wielded by an enraged a religious servant girl the stool may well be the deadliest weapon of all.
It's weird to learn that the concept of a republic was ever popular in Britain.
I was hoping to hear about my ancestor, Robert Devereux, the 3rd Earl of Essex, who became the first chief commander of the Parliamentarian army. He won no decisive victories, and was overshadowed in history by Oliver Cromwell and Thomas Fairfax, but im very glad to learn about these battles!
How far does your ancestry go?
@@urubu715 My distant relation George Fleetwood was also instigated in the regicide of Charles I, while another relation, Charles Cromwell was Cromwell's lord deputy of Ireland , who was charged under the Act of Indemnity. Neither of them were executed.
Spoiler alert
Why is it these historical videos always attract the " my ancestor" wannabes ? Seriously its an epidemic !
@ardshielcomplex8917 because it's interesting to me. I'm sorry that it's had such a negative effect on you
"The Cavalry breaks through on both flanks" - Oh well that was a quick victory then. I assume something else must have happened for that rebellion to not be ended on the spot
"The Cavalry then triumphantly leaves the battlefield" - Oh... right...
This would be a fine setting for a Total War that wanted to tell a more tighter story.
Yeah I've always thought that since I was a kid
exceptional animation, and explanation of the events, of the complex English history
It's amazing how many battles and wars were lost because the cavalry and infantry were so lacking in discipline. Personal glory and desire for plunder was more important than winning the battle, or the war.
Great video, as always. Look up the siege of Clonmel. It would make a great video.
During the siege and ensuing assault Cromwell's troops fell into a trap laid by Hugh "Dubh" O'Neill.
The New model army lost more troops in the storming of the breach at Clonmel than in any other battle.
The Royalist Cavalry’s lack of discipline is going to become an ongoing problem going forward.
Excellent video! I know next to nothing about this war it will be interesting to follow!
Greetings from Sweden! 🇸🇪
A world changing conflict. Heige Gustavus!
I'd like to know why there is a royalist flag over Coventry? When it was held by the parliamentarians? Just before the outbreak of the civil war in 1642, Charles I was refused entry to the city of Coventry.
Looking forward to the battle of Marston Moore in 44, I only know a handful of info on it. However, I'm hoping Col Sir William Lambton my ancestor get's a mention as he and his Regiment sacrificed themselves so Charles could escape. Also hoping for the battle of Piercebridge get's mentioned too as it opened the road to relieve York.
Just for additional information the number of protestants killed in 1641 by Irish insurgents in many cases for example in Ulster were the original land owners dispossessed primarily because they were Irish and Catholic, the number killed although substantial were never the number quoted by propagandists in Britain and used by Cromwell to reduce even further the number of Catholic landowners of their estates as well as the genocidal impact of Cromwell in Ireland. Finally even with the restoration of Charles 2nd the Irish continued to loose land ownership by the end of the Williamite wars it was under 10% not since Norman conquest was there such a transfer of land from one group to another and laid the foundation of subsequent trouble and conflict in the future Ireland problem being a majority Catholic country in an emerging protestant empire!
Look forward to seeing the rise of Oliver Cromwell, one of the most brilliant generals in British history by far.
@@Zack_P_Panos and ? I Give you Richard 1 the lionheart, well Bi...lol
@@Zack_P_Panos Is that supposed to change something? 💀
@@Zack_P_Panos Source?
@@Zack_P_Panos aren't you also a homosexual?
@@Zack_P_Panos I've not seen any evidence to suggest he was. Even if he was though, I don't see why that would matter.
If only Sir Alec Guinness was still around to read King Charles's part...
Only 19 000 infantry soilders on the field, where all armies that small in the 1600s?
The Bishop's War will come back to haunt Charles as after Edgehill the English Civil War turned into a protracted conflict until Charles fled to Scotland but after just nine months the Presbyterians delivered him to the Parliamentarians in 1647 and he was he was held prisoner by Parliament for the next two years before they had him stand trial and executed in Whitehall on January 30, 1649. Nine days later the monarchy was formally abolished.
Spoiler Alert!
the monarchy wasn't abolished. The Puritans replaced human monarchs with God as their king and Cromwell as his regent.
"until Charles fled to Scotland" he did not flee of Scotland he fled to the Scotish Army besieging Newark-on-Trent in England. There is a Wikipedia article on this subject: "Charles I's journey from Oxford to the Scottish army camp near Newark"
@@theawesomeman9821 by Act of [the Rump] Parliament the English monarchy was abolished. Initally the executive functions of the monarchy was replaced with a Council of State with a Lord President who chaired the meetings and was frequently replaced to stop the office becoming too influential. See the Wikipedia articles on the "Rump Parliament" and "English Council of State".
I would love to see you discuss the Dutch Golden Age.
Hope others would as well.
Leven is pronounced "Leeven" and Berwick "Berrick".
Not to mention the mispronounciation of Derby.
K&G should the histories and development of the oldest universities like Oxford, St Andrews, etc.
1600s had to be one of the craziest century’s in human history super bloody
Waiting for Fairfax and Cromwell to come into play...
Once again , well done !
They should have done what Alexander did hell if he was commanding that cavalry force they would have won easy battle with cavalry
I've seen here excellent documentaries. Keep up the good work.😁
Perhaps Covid mandates could be the reignite of ship money?
Parliament began raising an army when the king briefly laid siege to Hull. He left for Oxford when the Royal Navy relieved the garrison. The Parliamentary artillery fire fire was more effective at Edgehill because their cannoballs skipped up the incline, whereas the Royalist guns were at a higher elevation, so their cannonballs struck plowed earth at a high angle and stopped. The advance of the Parlimaentary infantry stopped when Royalist case shot cannonfire stopped them.
The role of the artillery branch has been deprecated by decades of "military historians" focused on the pageant of regiments with pennants a-flutter. For a corrective view on the role of artillery in these conflicts, read Stephen Bull's "The Furie of the Ordnance: Artillery in the English Civil Wars" (2012).
Officially Devin, yet again mispronounces many words: Berwick, Leven, Holles, Derby and Presbyterian.
The map is strange. It looks like the North of Scotland is an island, Manchester was an insignificant village in the 17th century and Derry was renamed Londonderry in 1613.
Charles VIII and Elizabeth I laid foundation of this destruction by abandoning Catholicism for a Church subservient to their lusts.
So glad you're finally doing the English civil war!
19:38 here king's cavalry returned and both sides infantry are tired. Isn't this the usual moment where cavalry charges the flank and the whole rebel line break and get massacred...
Oh hell yeah! I’m so hyped for this series.recently gotten into the ECW as a period I re-enact the royalists and so this series will be great to help me pick up on some more knowledge for that.For the king and the cause! Church and the Law! Charles King of England! Prince Rupert of the Rhine! God save the king! And a pox on the rebels!
I get most of my uniform colors from watching re-enactments ( wargame figures) You lot are excellent .
@@HairyBankers that’s great! Thank you very much! It’s our job to help to help educate and inspire so glad we’ve done our job :)
Thank you, Kings and Generals! I’ve been waiting for the good ole pike and shot for some time. Very pleased!
As a Tauntonian, whenever i see Taunton on a map… I immediately turn into that guy, standing infront of a camera screaming “HEY MUM, I’M ON TV!!”
Is Taunton the same town that had a very bloody battle during the Wars of the Roses or am I misremembering?
@@coryhall7074 that’s Towton. Taunton was where the bloody assizes happened, made famous after Judge Jeffries sentenced a silly amount of people to death after the war.
@@joshm3119 Ahh thank you! That was after the Monmouth Rebellion yes? One of the aftershocks of the Civil War that wracked the British Isles for thirty years.
@@coryhall7074 correct! Just after the battle of Sedgemoor
@@coryhall7074 we still have the tavern that Judge Jeffries stayed in. Though, it’s now a Cafe Nero 😂
The artillery would have been in front of the infantry, otherwise the shots would be killing their own men. Besides it would not have been an artillery duel if the cannon shots would rip through all the infantry to get to the artillery on the other side.
I swear every time I watch one of these videos, I'm astonished by the detailed content but then even more surprised at mispronunciation of some fairly large places like Derby and Berwick
Dammit. I try not to get hooked on a series till after it's fully released and I dont have to wait for the next part, but nooooo
Weird seeing the names of towns that I'm familiar with feature in a historical documentary.
I totally can’t wait to see Nasbey and Marston Moor and also the 1st Marquess of Montrose.
The Marquis of Montrose entering Scotland with 2 men and more or less conquering the country in less than a year was a real flex. Too bad it didn't last.
@@Oxtocoatl13 oh okay well I would say that I am really looking forward to seeing the 1st marquess of Montrose because fighting with the marquess of Montrose was a group of 2,000 Irish soldiers under Sir Alexander MacDonald and he interests me because I took a DNA test on ancestry and According to it I am 7% Irish.
Crazy that this episode was out so soon
Edit: mad props
K&G are synonymous with quality.
Will you ever make a series about the Crimean war and The charge of the light brigade etc?
Yep
Cant wait, keep up the good work!
Ah , Parliament ! Doing things the Dutch way 😌 ; maybe a Dutch king would sort it all out ?
Only criticism I got is the terminology English Civil War, this conflict is also and far more appropriately known as the War of the Three Kingdoms , the real English Civil Wars were the Anarchy and the wars of the Roses.
The Wars of the Three Kingdoms was the overarching conflict. The English Civil War happened during this period, as one of the wars. England was but one of these three kingdoms.
It was *obviously* a civil war, and it happened among the English, so ...
I'm interested in how officers and soldiers were recruited, commanded or got their foods in both the Royalist and Parliamentarians. Thanks for another great video.
Would have got a lot of their food by raiding small villages such is the way of war when most go on the offensive.
Plundering the peasants.
Nobles & gentry, who made the bulk of the officers*- raised a force from among their tenants (of particular appeal were any men who served in local 'Train bands' or militias**); reason that nobles & gentry were the majority of the officers, being: they were required to outfit, arm, armour, & feed their men, out of their own pocket - sometimes that meant taking some carts of supplies when they set out - at other times they could buy, or trade with the people who followed military units- the camp followers (an early unofficial wing of the armies); while for some commanders, they were a logistical & security nightmare- they were also essential to perform tasks such as washing & mending of clothes, nursing the sick, gaining additional supplies- either by foraging, or trading with nearby villages, or farmers- they could also guard camps, & perform a kind of reconnaissance while doing their usual tasks, or outright spying. In some situations, they might be tasked with watering soldiers, the injured, &/ or prisoners- especially the artillery- & might even be roped into helping load cannons & guns- though it was soldiers who would fire them.
Officially, I believe requisitioning, or even confiscating supplies from people was done fairly early on- it wasn't often a blanket thing, but _usually_ focused on those who supported the opposite side- sometimes supplies might be bought or requisitioned from neutral parties- & it was a last resort to requisition from your own side - buying/ trading, as one would, while on campaign- it's possible people were often paid token sums, though there is evidence that people sold goods to armies at a massive mark-up. Looting obviously happened, but it wasn't something officers would want to make a habit of- especially if they were going to be in an area for an extended period of time; keeping the goodwill of the locals, while not always possible, was usually attempted- at least for a time - I daresay it all depends on the circumstances & need- & how much goodwill you need from those around you, what you're going to go with- if you care about what impression you make.
*There were fairly few 'career soldiers', as we would term them today- standing armies did not exist in the UK - most gentlemen (unless impeded by age, capacity, health, or other circumstances) got at a minimum- the rudiments of martial training - those who were not heirs, or otherwise in a position to any real inheritance could serve in the armies of foreign nations- a ton of future Scots officers did so; serving in France, or other parts of Europe during the 80 Years' War, &/ or the 30 Years' War- if they'd had the fortune of serving in Europe, especially places like Sweden or Holland- they would get first-hand experience in the most up-to-date military techniques & knowledge of the latest tactics.
Many future officers & soldiers would take this skillset back to England & Scotland - Rupert of the Rhine, despite being born a prince, & a nephew of the English king, was considered one of the finest professional soldiers of his day- though to the enemy, he was a foreign mercenary (despite visiting England on & off with his younger brother, Maurice for several years- before they came to help their uncle)- & possibly also a witch, complete with a familiar or two (his poodle, Boye- & later, another dog).
The problem for these men, was that the 'Continental' style of fighting that they learned- involved things that were not 'English' - like extorting captured cities for ransoms, & leaving the battle to loot baggage trains...
**They were the only real line of defense, should matters come to that- they were required to enroll in their local unit, & train several times a month, every year- there's no great detail on the matter of their training, but it can be assumed that pike, longbow, sword, & later musket & pistol training were among their disciplines - I doubt that everyone was training with real weapons, however- but it's possible that every good-sized township had a small armory...
Hope that all helps - I've been doing some research on the era, but I'm not approaching anything like a scholar- I just have a deep interest in the period
Hope we get a nod to the real OGs of the Civil War period: the Diggers.
Great start, look forward to seeing the Battle of Dunbar.
The only knowledge I have of this era is from the movie "Cromwell" I watched when I was a kid :). Thank you kings and generals!
It's a great movie ---- i didn't see it for first time until about 2015 !!!
1970 --- Hollywood movie ?
@@francisbrewster4948
Very much so in spirit, if not in fact - as in: very little accuracy, for a historical film- _despite_ the claims. Sorry if I put a dampener on your retroactive enjoyment of it, but....
A metric sh*tton of battles were ignored, & the battles that *_were_* mentioned or shown, displayed next to nothing in the way of accurate battlefield techniques of the time, which were often quite particular - Cromwell's men were costumed as bumblebees, in their black-&-yellow striped sleeves (there's no evidence *any* unit, on either side was in black & yellow).
TH-camr The Laughing Cavalier does a fantastic 2-part review of it; there's necromancy, early deaths, inaccurate deaths- the Second & Third phases of the English Civil Wars are entirely glossed over, as is Cromwell's controversial Scottish & Irish campaigns (given 'The Troubles' were kicking off in Ireland, it was *A ChoiceTM* not to depict it in any way, shape or form- except for some allusions to Irish aid to the King) - multiple figures are sidelined or cut- to inaccurately attribute their acts to Cromwell- thus making him out to be far more present & influential in this early period than he was- the movie could have worked around this, by having him observe & grow, as a commander & politician, but nope- it chose to lionize Cromwell & give him accomplishments that were not his, attribute motives that it is exceptionally unlikely that he had, & make him a proto-communist- even not liking him, I wouldn't have done **_that_** to him- & in all honesty, Harris' rather hammy performance did nothing to endear him to me - though Guiness' much more subtle performance was a masterclass, right down to the Scottish accent when he's angry- & the hint of his childhood stutter.
And his farewell to the two children that had been taken into Parliamentary custody was heartbreaking, as it must have been in real life (we know what happened, because Princess Elizabeth herself wrote about it).
Also- Rupert's younger brother Maurice was not shown, as far as I could see- & the historical Rupert would have sounded a bit more like Matthew Goode's German accented English, rather than Timothy Dalton's Welsh/ English (Rupert & Maurice visited their uncle on & off for years before the wars, & I daresay their mother [Elizabeth Stuart] would have ensured they had learnt English, but he did grow up in European courts) - his fate is left up in the air, & Prince Charles' (who is way too old in the movie) gets a voiceover.
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
It was a Shocking battle and a most suitable flag recovery
Cavalry lacking in discipline and costing one side the battle serms to be a thing going back to greek times. Will continue to be a thing up to custer
Cromwell and his Godly army won the civil war but lost the peace. I always wonder what would have happened if he could have anticipated the reforms of 1688-1720, only a half-century later, and established a parliamentary republic - executive in the commons, ministry in the parliament, public finances and bonds transparent and open to all, no monarch.
The dialectic of War-and-Restoration did exactly that, and in my opinion it was that process as a whole that gave Britain the solid strength of government that has stood it in such good stead ever since, and could not I think have been created any sooner.
@@coryhall7074 - I don't disagree, except for the need for a monarch.
@@FlyxPat The major of the reason that parliament pressed Oliver to become King Oliver, was because if he accepted that position he would be bound by the chains of precident reaching back into the middle ages. Without that people worried that a dictator could arise who could be a tyranical as some of the early Norman monarchs. At a trivial level no one calls a Prime Ministers wife in Britain "First Lady" because that position is held by the Queen. If you remove monarchy then one has to untangle so much of the constitution and place it into "basic law" that it would make Brexit look like a walk in the park. Basically it is a case of "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
@@firstlast7052 - i don’t agree. England was heavily influenced by the republican Netherlands throughout the 17thC. The Parliament got more than Cromwell ever dreamed of in 1688-1720. It’s not that complicated; the parliament assumes the powers of the king using the cabinet system (alongside transparent public accounts, which is what unlocked the UK’s great power potential). The problem was Cromwell saw everything through the lens of religion.
@@FlyxPat more than Cromwell (a greandee) wanted, but not as much as the Levellers or the Agitators wanted (as can be read in the Putney Debates and the Agreement of the People, and the 1660 pamphlets on the Good Old Cause).
I don't disagre that all of them saw things through the lense of religion, however that does not mean that they could not formulate many of the ideas that we consider more modern ones. Eg. "I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live, as the greatest he; and therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear, that every man that is to live under a government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that government; and I do think that the poorest man in England is not bound in a strict sense to that government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under..." (Thomas Rainsborough).
For political expediency after the Restoration both parties Roundhead grandees and Cavaliers (who would become Whigs and Tories after the Exclusion Crisis) were willing to support the Test Acts to keep Roman Catholics and Dissenters out of power, or even from attending universities. As the more radical middling sort tended to be Dissenters, this suited both parties. The Glorious Revolution did not change that. This of course led to the creation of Cadburys, Freys, and Rowntrees chocolate companies which was a good thing :~)
"Ber-ick" not "Bur-wick". "Darby", not "Der-by", Shrowz-bury", not Shroos-bury"! Are you English at all??? Other than that. Good video!
Question: Why do English historians rewrite history and only mention English civil war and Charles I as an English King? There was also civil war in Scotland and charles 1 was also king of Scotland and he was actually born in Scotland as was James 6th of Scotland also Scottish just asking WHY?
I must say, for a historian, you're rubbish at correctly pronouncing Towns & Cities of England. It's Darby, not Derby, I'm also sure you said Kineton wrong, but not 100% on that.
As a round Smoothhead myself, this is so satisfying to see
I love your videos, but Derby is pronounced D-ARR-BY.
This is a bit of petty pet peeve of mine, but you pronounced a number towns and cities quite differently from the "standard".
Berwick is 'BER-ick'
Derby is 'DAR-by'
Leven is 'LEE-ven'
17:46
Rupert running away with his enthusiasm in the two important battles cost, Charles his head 👑 👸 🤴
Positioning of Scottish cities on your map at 2:09 is all wrong.
I mean, you've got Dundee across the Firth of Tay in Fife, for crying out loud.
I wonder who would of won if it was just swords armour and mounted knights ect,,,I think gun powder fucked the battlefield, even look how stupid they looked with them hats and cloths
I love the videos on this channel but I really wish you would pay more attention to the correct pronunciation, particularly for place names. A small point perhaps but so easy to get right.
@Kings and Generals please make a video covering the current uprising of brave Iranian youth fighting for their rights against the terrorist Regime in Iran. #MahsaAmini
Amazing video like always but what do. You use to create the battle maps?
Photoshop ;)
This is perfect, taking an Early modern English history class soon and this will help a lot
I don't get the narrator. He sounds like he has a British accent but he keeps mispronouncing the place names
I think the Battle of Naseby failed for the royalists for similar reasons.
The cavalry left the field to loot the baggage train I think
Also it was maybe 10000 vs 15000 then
🎶Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England (Puritain)
Born in 1599 and died in 1668 (september)..🎶.
Anyone? ;)
I’m literally looking out of my bedroom window over at Edgehill lit up in the moonlight 😊
That’s amazing, imagine the events that took place there years ago! 😱
You sound like a native English speaker, and yet... Berwick. 🙂
These videos are exceptional and I always learn. But being a northerner when you said "ber - wick" I couldn't help but laugh! It's pronounced "Berrick"
Narrator is a westerner :-)
3:41 berwick is pronounced beh - rick like all the other -wick places in the uk
@@Gudha_Ismintis on the same timestamp uttoxeter spelled wrong, as well as shrewsbury being pronounced incorrectly, should be shrew as in 'throw' with a sh sound
THIS ISN'T THE BATTLE OF ANTIOCH!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
*sees my ancestor Feilding in the center of the royalist forces* What is also interesting is that's the 1st Earl of Denbigh, meanwhile his son soon to be 2nd Earl was on the opposite side under the Parliamentarians.
If there was no English war, I wonder whether they would aid, fight against or be indifferent to Gustavus Adolphus 's course......
Gustavus was already dead by the time the civil war started. England spent those years arguing about budgets, and even had the king wanted to come fight on the continent, he had no funds to do so. Besides, the English attempt to save the French protestants at La Rochelle was a complete farce, so enthusiasm for military adventures was sorely lacking.
Wrong civil war but still appreciated
It’á Really interesting The Development of History The Conflicts Between The King And Parliament,Could After The End of English Civil War Could Talk About The Fronde ar The Beginning of The Reign Of King Louis XIV influenced By The Events in England.
I wonder what are the consequence the survived military officers faced in the aftermath of the battle for allowing glory to blind them in achieving victory by following the King's command. So unless he needed them, they are most likely faced something like lashing, imprisonment, cutting off their salaries and might even losing their heads. So which one is most likely possible or all of them are possible?
That's what I want to know as well. Must have been so infuriating to see.
the King in fact minted the first British battlefield medal for Robert Welch, who had recaptured the Royalist banner alongside John Smith (not the Pocahantas guy) and didn't really punish anyone at the time as he was concerned with making his base at Oxford and gathering more support. Rupert himself was actually praised by the King and many although other senior generals and lords did not like him.
Heads began to roll (not literally) when Rupert was forced to surrender Bristol and Oxford in the coming years (not entirely his fault) and lost the battle of Naseby to Oliver Cromwell's New Model Army. Eventually he was sent away from court.
@@SantomPh thank you..
@@SantomPh So my assumption about the King really needed them is correct. Am I right?
Charles was having a shortage of experienced officers, beheading his nephew would have robbed him of the one man he had who could at least win the cavalry skirmishes, and be terrible PR. You could also say that introducing the idea that royal heads are actually detachable would have set a dangerous precedent.
My 10 x Grandfather was there captain Richard Corfield
Alexander Leslie was a badass. One of the better soldiers of his era.
I knew a K. Leslie and asked him if he was a descendant. He did not know. Nonetheless I shook his hand just in case.
No mention of Prince Rupert's battle poodle, Boy?
I used to cycle in this area a lot, Edgehill is truly one damn steep wall of a hill. I only went up there when I was feeling fresh and up for a battle with gravity.
That is why the Cavaliers who held the high ground, but wanted a battle, marched down from the heights as the Roundheads would not have attacked them up such a steep hill.
We need the post Caesar civil wars to return it’s been months
30k Soldiers 50 guns and 1000 killed and 3000 wounded