In my 30 years of experience wearing all the different types of fabrics..I have come to the conclusion that if you truly want to stay dry then you wear Wax Cotton..if you travel any significant distance or out for long periods of time wax cotton is the only product that actually works. If you are an urban city rider then a waterproof 'over jacket' - 'pull on trousers' is ideally the most protective.. in my experience all the modern fabrics give up over time and need replacing wax cotton can be re-waxed and repaired if damaged.. waterproof over jackets/trousers are cheap enough to replace when worn out.. don't waste your money on expensive technical kit.
Thanks for the heads up. Being a new rider and mainly pottering around suburbia/town/city…I invested in (what I think) an expensive over-trouser…..I was specifically after not just something waterproof but also high-vis seeing as the days are getting shorter here in Blighty….might get a chance to test it tomorrow as it’s supposed to be quite heavy rain down south …..and if it does, it’ll be my first ride in the wet ….😂
Yep I’m a golf pro that loves riding motorcycles- look to other sports for gear. Bike brands rip us off. Dont get me wrong Gore-tex isnt cheap but from Motorcycles brands it is
In 30 years of commuting the only kit to keep me completely dry are my Hideout custom 2 piece textiles, made to order, flipping expensive but worth every penny when you are riding all year round.
I absolutely agree with you about outer layers. I use the Scott ergo from more than 5 years (just one Scott pant failed between legs after 4 years of daily riding). Great product ! Outer layer keeps your cloth dry and you don't have to let your motorcycle gear dry for hours or all night long + it's efficient and reliable. Layers can be packed in dry bags after rain and let it dry back home. The down side is that, if your riding without them, you have to park the bike to wear your outer layers (if it already raining...).
8:00 this is the only time i actually choose high-viz. I hate the color any other time, but for any heavy rain i prefer high viz. It also helps distinguish the jacket from the trouser
Thank you. Great content. In my experience if it has to be waterproof or dust proof it is about layers. Like your laptop. Waterproof bag inside a waterproof bag. Waterproof over waterproof jacket. When one fails the second is there to catch the ingress.
For waterproof luggage Lomo is a great brand. They started off making equipment (bags, pouches etc) for the sailing industry. Their prices are pretty good too.
I know that there's probably a thousand videos like this online, and it's definitely been a question i've had about waterproofing, but this video was so bloody helpful. Thank you🤘 ride safe
One name you didn't mention was Knox. I know we tend to think of their mesh jackets as summer gear, but they're also really good when the weather turns wet, because you're separating the protective layer from the insulating and waterproof layers, so you can tailor what you wear, and use the best gear without being restricted to motorcycle only clothing. I'm personally not that keen on Knox's own outer layers, they're a bit too fell-walker for me, perhaps because they're based in Cumbria, but a Knox Urbane Pro combined with decent outdoor gear works really well, and doesn't weigh you down half as much as a single motorbike jacket that's trying to do everything at once.
Rain X is still the best for visors IMHO and tiny, tiny bottle I have has lasted a year. I recoat it every time I clean my visor (wet paper towel to soften the bugs and NO soap or chemical cleaning).
I bought my kit some time ago based on 'Best Buy' advice. The helmet is Arai Quantum that is absolutely perfect for fit and protection. The Suit is a Spada full textile for suspect weather conditions and the boots are Oxtar Gore-tex that are perfect fit and totally waterproof The gloves were Hein Gericke Sympatex leather gloves. The worst conditions I have ridden in was a 3 hour trip from Southend to Leicester via M11/A14/M1 in conditions that I describe as 'Power Boating' The bike never missed a beat and I arrived home fully dry inside the gear I carry an over suit as a back up when I'm not wearing the full kit but this makes me wetter inside than out.
I spent years using hiking waterproofs but they’re just not durable enough i had many holes and zip failures. The Scott ergo jacket has been the best by far for torrential rain. My belstaff crosby has been daily use through winter months for 7 years now and still perfect. Just needs re-waxing from time to time. Genuinely spot on advice in this video, thanks
Great video cheers. Here in Ireland it never seems to stop raining so we need very good waterproof gear to enjoy all year round motorcycling. I am 95% sorted with staying dry on an all day raining spin, by reading others advice and trying different kit. Am enjoying this challenge “staying dry” as a project before retirement next year, -as work is interfering with my biking. The 5% that has failed me is around the neck and back of the helmet. Any advice would be greatly welcomed. I have the Scott hi-neck over jacket and tried 6 different storm collars 😂. And no I won’t use a car.
Carrier bags over your socks, before putting your boots on - works a treat, and I've never had wet or sweaty feet using that method (I do have WP boots BTW) Some people highly recommend some of the RAF over suits too, cheaper than motorcycle specific ones, and allegedly they're very WP - never looked into it myself though
Have seen a tip to wear thin workshop plastic gloves under your main ones, not tried it yet, but it seems it could be a low-cost solution for when gloves wet-out.
Reference pinlock in the Summer take it of your visor to let it dry out, because it absorbs moisture while on the visor , so it will work properly again . Reference waterproofing getting laminated kit it works a lot better than layers ( 53 years experience.reference a layer of water on the outside of your jacket , while in the winter it freezes and your really driving in a fridge not good . And it’s heavier 🤪😊👍
I've used a North Face waterproof outer layer for over 10 years and have now replaced it with one from Arcterix. I just find that I can have it in my bag always with me, regardless of whether I'm on or off the bike. For my bag I use Yeti backpack, it's technically water resistant, but I've been heavily rained on and it has done the job well enough. My laptop and all the internals were kept dry
40 years riding experience: buy expencive helmet and boots. Laminated jacket and pants, but Scott ergo pro on top. You can swim with this combination and no water come inside ! Gloves - if you have handguards, doesn't matter, just take two pairs for a case
Great Video. Thank you. As a newbee (4y) i had to learn it the hard way, that waterproof doesn't mean waterproof. And i can totaly aggree with most comments made here: •Cotton Wax! Great. I own the legendgear panniers, and troubled myself with waxing them, (4 times waxing and baking it in) and i never needed the inlays again. •Motorcyclebrands are too expensive for outer layers. I do use my decathlon hiking gear and it never failed me so far, and of course i can use it for hikingg as well. Wich, the other way round wouldn't work half as good, and not half as good looking.... As for boots, after quite some time of returning "waterproof" boots to the store, i had, and have my best time with some Stylemartin Rockets. But even with them i tend to have some of theese ugly trashbaglike things to put over them when its going to get biblical.. same for the gloves. Nevertheless when the world seems to come to an end, my - now - waxlayered panniers would be a little moist on the inside but still waterproof in my eyes.... ending here, my best antifog i had so far is an open/cross helmet and googles. Getting a little wet round the neck, wich can be solved by a good buff, but ways more secure concerning visibility in the rain. I've never had a issue with visibility on the street. And especially in the rain you don't want to miss anything going on traficwise.....
Simples… don’t go out in the rain and have a car in reserve. That mantra has served me well for over 40 years… Except in June this year when I got rained on every day as I rode around France……. Bugger……
Great vid. I have the Scott waterproofs. They are excellent. I put a mark on the storage bag so I can identify which is the jacket and which are the pants.
Motorcycle rain pants should zip to the hip. If the side zips stop below the knee, it is almost impossible to get them on over a pair of boots standing next to the bike on the side of the road.
FCC rule number 15 is a 300+ part rule. They only tell you two dumbed down pieces of it in every owners manual for anything electronic purchased nowadays. The rule states that all electronic devices are listening to us and communicating with each other. If you modify the electronics to remove the fcc rule 15 piece of it it's a felony and any electronics pre FCC rule 15 will eventually stop working because of the new frequency that is in the air, but I'm sure you have already heard this buzzing through your mind......?!?
Avoid opening your visor in wet weather, which will allow raindrops to run down its inner surface. When you stop for fuel or to garage your bike, for example, remove your helmet without opening the visor.
urban rider accepting it aint as hot as Texas is the woke mindset the world needs. Much love from cowboy town love the content because all the gear has a nice aesthetic and that's exactly what I'm looking for. good gear that doesn't look like garbage from north face.
Used to swear by laminated and wore goretex or equivalent kit for years. Now moved on to layering using drop liner kit and Scott and Revit waterproofs, a much more flexible option and so easy to adjust to our variable weather. It’s also a lot better vfm than overpriced and in my opinion overrated Goretex. Always wear waterproof boots even in Summer….gloves I have two pairs one Summer and one fully waterproof both by Knox. Luggage is all SW Motech and soft, hard luggage is ugly and heavy and I don’t leave my bike far when I’m touring…
I have the same issue with 10 bucks waterproof jacket and pants (both items add up to 10 bucks) rain gear. The plastic at the cross stitching at the crotch area of the pants tend to wear off faster than the other parts. When they don't, sit further in your seat. The rain pants meant it's water proof if it's rain or water sprayer at you. But it doesn't mean it's totally impermeable. So if you sit too close to the tank, there is an inverted cone area between your crotch and the tank where water will collect and eventually seep through the pants. That's the only place the rain gear failed me too. It's only when I changed to a different bike that I felt suddenly the issue doesn't happen anymore, because the tank of the new bike is not at the same place as my old bike.
second number goes to 9, you can get ip69 electronics, i came here because my alpinestars waterproof jacket isnt waterproof... i hate that companies can use the term "waterproof" without substantiating it
4:30… “not that anyone ever does”… not so fast there Tim! Recoated my Merlin Kurkbury with Merlin Wax treatment… boom! Back to looking, and performing, like a brand new jacket. 😂
I always found wax cotton very good even in the wettest conditions however its effectiveness does depend on the tightness of the cotton fabric and the viscosity of the wax treatment itself I found the Barbour wax was by far the best and would waterproof a pair of Y fronts should your over trousers spring a leak around the crotch. As for waterproof boots nothing beats a pair of rubber wellies and rubber soles will also last much longer than anything else during spirited riding through the twisties when they come into contact with the road.
Bought those Scott water proof trousers, they fit fine, but THEY RIDE MY LEGS and go above my boots. my boots were fills to the brim with water when I got home today. There is no way to fasten down as they don't have straps or a way to connect anything too. They're £80 too so extremely disappointed in this purchase.
How do you waterproof the thorat/neck area??? After an hour in the rain I always get water that's soaked through my neckwarmer or buff and it starts to drip on the inside my jacket and down my stomach. Any ideas ?
10000 is definitely not waterproof. That's ok in a shower but not goid for actual rain. 30k is waterproof. Laminated layers are best especially as the good ones have excellent through venting.
My 20yr old one-piece "Motoline" waterproofs still do the job, how's that for a long term test? Fair weather rider these days though, I just pop on the one-piece suit and Held overgloves if I get caught in a downpour.
We all know how to stay dry. The problem i see is the complete and total disappearance of big powerful bike riders disappearing like flies in winter from U.K roads cos they’re scared sh*#less of riding. I have the ultimate riding dry gear. And tbh the only thing u need to keep ontop of-is keeping your sprocket(s) and chain clean and lubed. The bike is going to get wrecked. Just focus on maintaining good protection on metal components. Forget the plastics till you know you have 3-4 good dry days
In my 30 years of experience wearing all the different types of fabrics..I have come to the conclusion that if you truly want to stay dry then you wear Wax Cotton..if you travel any significant distance or out for long periods of time wax cotton is the only product that actually works. If you are an urban city rider then a waterproof 'over jacket' - 'pull on trousers' is ideally the most protective.. in my experience all the modern fabrics give up over time and need replacing wax cotton can be re-waxed and repaired if damaged.. waterproof over jackets/trousers are cheap enough to replace when worn out.. don't waste your money on expensive technical kit.
Thanks for the heads up. Being a new rider and mainly pottering around suburbia/town/city…I invested in (what I think) an expensive over-trouser…..I was specifically after not just something waterproof but also high-vis seeing as the days are getting shorter here in Blighty….might get a chance to test it tomorrow as it’s supposed to be quite heavy rain down south …..and if it does, it’ll be my first ride in the wet ….😂
I agree. Don't waste your money on expensive technical kit. Good point.
@@2WheeledCoconutbuy Oxford rainseal jacket £25 and bottoms £16
@@Bigbrass AWESOME!! Thanks mate 🙏🙏🙏👍👌😎
Thank you for sharing!
Yep I’m a golf pro that loves riding motorcycles- look to other sports for gear. Bike brands rip us off. Dont get me wrong Gore-tex isnt cheap but from Motorcycles brands it is
In 30 years of commuting the only kit to keep me completely dry are my Hideout custom 2 piece textiles, made to order, flipping expensive but worth every penny when you are riding all year round.
Daytona boots..I've had a pair for nearly five years now and the waterproofing has never let me down. PS, Just picked up Scott's waterproofs.
Nice one!
I absolutely agree with you about outer layers.
I use the Scott ergo from more than 5 years (just one Scott pant failed between legs after 4 years of daily riding). Great product !
Outer layer keeps your cloth dry and you don't have to let your motorcycle gear dry for hours or all night long + it's efficient and reliable.
Layers can be packed in dry bags after rain and let it dry back home. The down side is that, if your riding without them, you have to park the bike to wear your outer layers (if it already raining...).
Very true!
8:00 this is the only time i actually choose high-viz. I hate the color any other time, but for any heavy rain i prefer high viz. It also helps distinguish the jacket from the trouser
Thank you. Great content.
In my experience if it has to be waterproof or dust proof it is about layers. Like your laptop. Waterproof bag inside a waterproof bag. Waterproof over waterproof jacket. When one fails the second is there to catch the ingress.
Thanks for sharing!
For waterproof luggage Lomo is a great brand. They started off making equipment (bags, pouches etc) for the sailing industry. Their prices are pretty good too.
I know that there's probably a thousand videos like this online, and it's definitely been a question i've had about waterproofing, but this video was so bloody helpful. Thank you🤘 ride safe
Glad it was helpful!
One name you didn't mention was Knox. I know we tend to think of their mesh jackets as summer gear, but they're also really good when the weather turns wet, because you're separating the protective layer from the insulating and waterproof layers, so you can tailor what you wear, and use the best gear without being restricted to motorcycle only clothing.
I'm personally not that keen on Knox's own outer layers, they're a bit too fell-walker for me, perhaps because they're based in Cumbria, but a Knox Urbane Pro combined with decent outdoor gear works really well, and doesn't weigh you down half as much as a single motorbike jacket that's trying to do everything at once.
Thank you for sharing!
Rain X is still the best for visors IMHO and tiny, tiny bottle I have has lasted a year. I recoat it every time I clean my visor (wet paper towel to soften the bugs and NO soap or chemical cleaning).
❤😊😊
Man I remember having to learn about gore-tex in school. Fully being examined on what makes it special
I bought my kit some time ago based on 'Best Buy' advice. The helmet is Arai Quantum that is absolutely perfect for fit and protection. The Suit is a Spada full textile for suspect weather conditions and the boots are Oxtar Gore-tex that are perfect fit and totally waterproof The gloves were Hein Gericke Sympatex leather gloves. The worst conditions I have ridden in was a 3 hour trip from Southend to Leicester via M11/A14/M1 in conditions that I describe as 'Power Boating' The bike never missed a beat and I arrived home fully dry inside the gear I carry an over suit as a back up when I'm not wearing the full kit but this makes me wetter inside than out.
I spent years using hiking waterproofs but they’re just not durable enough i had many holes and zip failures. The Scott ergo jacket has been the best by far for torrential rain. My belstaff crosby has been daily use through winter months for 7 years now and still perfect. Just needs re-waxing from time to time. Genuinely spot on advice in this video, thanks
Thank you for sharing!
Great video cheers. Here in Ireland it never seems to stop raining so we need very good waterproof gear to enjoy all year round motorcycling. I am 95% sorted with staying dry on an all day raining spin, by reading others advice and trying different kit. Am enjoying this challenge “staying dry” as a project before retirement next year, -as work is interfering with my biking. The 5% that has failed me is around the neck and back of the helmet. Any advice would be greatly welcomed. I have the Scott hi-neck over jacket and tried 6 different storm collars 😂. And no I won’t use a car.
No car 💪🏍️🤩
Carrier bags over your socks, before putting your boots on - works a treat, and I've never had wet or sweaty feet using that method (I do have WP boots BTW)
Some people highly recommend some of the RAF over suits too, cheaper than motorcycle specific ones, and allegedly they're very WP - never looked into it myself though
Thank you for the tip!
Gore-tex , enerything, trousers, jacket, gloves, daytona boots with goretex. staying dry as a martini
Have seen a tip to wear thin workshop plastic gloves under your main ones, not tried it yet, but it seems it could be a low-cost solution for when gloves wet-out.
Reference pinlock in the Summer take it of your visor to let it dry out, because it absorbs moisture while on the visor , so it will work properly again . Reference waterproofing getting laminated kit it works a lot better than layers ( 53 years experience.reference a layer of water on the outside of your jacket , while in the winter it freezes and your really driving in a fridge not good . And it’s heavier 🤪😊👍
I've used a North Face waterproof outer layer for over 10 years and have now replaced it with one from Arcterix. I just find that I can have it in my bag always with me, regardless of whether I'm on or off the bike. For my bag I use Yeti backpack, it's technically water resistant, but I've been heavily rained on and it has done the job well enough. My laptop and all the internals were kept dry
Thank you for sharing!
40 years riding experience: buy expencive helmet and boots. Laminated jacket and pants, but Scott ergo pro on top. You can swim with this combination and no water come inside ! Gloves - if you have handguards, doesn't matter, just take two pairs for a case
Great Video. Thank you. As a newbee (4y) i had to learn it the hard way, that waterproof doesn't mean waterproof. And i can totaly aggree with most comments made here:
•Cotton Wax! Great. I own the legendgear panniers, and troubled myself with waxing them, (4 times waxing and baking it in) and i never needed the inlays again.
•Motorcyclebrands are too expensive for outer layers. I do use my decathlon hiking gear and it never failed me so far, and of course i can use it for hikingg as well. Wich, the other way round wouldn't work half as good, and not half as good looking....
As for boots, after quite some time of returning "waterproof" boots to the store, i had, and have my best time with some Stylemartin Rockets. But even with them i tend to have some of theese ugly trashbaglike things to put over them when its going to get biblical.. same for the gloves. Nevertheless when the world seems to come to an end, my - now - waxlayered panniers would be a little moist on the inside but still waterproof in my eyes....
ending here, my best antifog i had so far is an open/cross helmet and googles. Getting a little wet round the neck, wich can be solved by a good buff, but ways more secure concerning visibility in the rain. I've never had a issue with visibility on the street. And especially in the rain you don't want to miss anything going on traficwise.....
Simples… don’t go out in the rain and have a car in reserve. That mantra has served me well for over 40 years…
Except in June this year when I got rained on every day as I rode around France……. Bugger……
Great vid. I have the Scott waterproofs. They are excellent. I put a mark on the storage bag so I can identify which is the jacket and which are the pants.
Thank you for sharing!
Motorcycle rain pants should zip to the hip. If the side zips stop below the knee, it is almost impossible to get them on over a pair of boots standing next to the bike on the side of the road.
FCC rule number 15 is a 300+ part rule. They only tell you two dumbed down pieces of it in every owners manual for anything electronic purchased nowadays. The rule states that all electronic devices are listening to us and communicating with each other. If you modify the electronics to remove the fcc rule 15 piece of it it's a felony and any electronics pre FCC rule 15 will eventually stop working because of the new frequency that is in the air, but I'm sure you have already heard this buzzing through your mind......?!?
Avoid opening your visor in wet weather, which will allow raindrops to run down its inner surface. When you stop for fuel or to garage your bike, for example, remove your helmet without opening the visor.
Waxed cotton or outer layers. Ditch the drop liners,they’re ultimately a compromise.
Waterproof socks makes all boots waterproof, quite warm too
Good tip!
Rewaxed my Merton - works a treat
My Dainese Goretex gear does the trick for me.
Good tip, I stay 100% dry on my bike, I don’t ride or get caught out in rain on my bike, I use the car instead lol
urban rider accepting it aint as hot as Texas is the woke mindset the world needs. Much love from cowboy town love the content because all the gear has a nice aesthetic and that's exactly what I'm looking for. good gear that doesn't look like garbage from north face.
omg i surely am not the only person who rewaxes his barbour jacket
Great vid for those of us in Seattle 🌦️. Nice to see Tim’s Duc. Heard about it on the podcast. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Used to swear by laminated and wore goretex or equivalent kit for years. Now moved on to layering using drop liner kit and Scott and Revit waterproofs, a much more flexible option and so easy to adjust to our variable weather. It’s also a lot better vfm than overpriced and in my opinion overrated Goretex. Always wear waterproof boots even in Summer….gloves I have two pairs one Summer and one fully waterproof both by Knox. Luggage is all SW Motech and soft, hard luggage is ugly and heavy and I don’t leave my bike far when I’m touring…
I’m a gloves under my jacket sleeves person! The feeling when you stop and rain gushes down into your glove is horrible! Always gloves in!
Great video, no BS 👍
Glad you liked it!
O.J. SIMPSON GLOVES
Left out the worst bit - the neck and helmet collar. Nothing like putting on a soggy helmet again to get home…
Go to the tropics and redo the wet & dry videos. 😀
The bloody crotch is where my "water proof" pants always fail!!!!
I have the same issue with 10 bucks waterproof jacket and pants (both items add up to 10 bucks) rain gear. The plastic at the cross stitching at the crotch area of the pants tend to wear off faster than the other parts.
When they don't, sit further in your seat. The rain pants meant it's water proof if it's rain or water sprayer at you. But it doesn't mean it's totally impermeable. So if you sit too close to the tank, there is an inverted cone area between your crotch and the tank where water will collect and eventually seep through the pants.
That's the only place the rain gear failed me too. It's only when I changed to a different bike that I felt suddenly the issue doesn't happen anymore, because the tank of the new bike is not at the same place as my old bike.
second number goes to 9, you can get ip69 electronics, i came here because my alpinestars waterproof jacket isnt waterproof... i hate that companies can use the term "waterproof" without substantiating it
Cool video!! Thanks for the job!!!
Glad you liked it!
4:30… “not that anyone ever does”… not so fast there Tim! Recoated my Merlin Kurkbury with Merlin Wax treatment… boom! Back to looking, and performing, like a brand new jacket. 😂
Helmets, like tupperware and the occasional walrus all enjoy a tight seal 😂
Underated sir 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I always found wax cotton very good even in the wettest conditions however its effectiveness does depend on the tightness of the cotton fabric and the viscosity of the wax treatment itself I found the Barbour wax was by far the best and would waterproof a pair of Y fronts should your over trousers spring a leak around the crotch.
As for waterproof boots nothing beats a pair of rubber wellies and rubber soles will also last much longer than anything else during spirited riding through the twisties when they come into contact with the road.
Electrically heated visors are better than pinlock. So that bit of advice is out of date.
Bought those Scott water proof trousers, they fit fine, but THEY RIDE MY LEGS and go above my boots. my boots were fills to the brim with water when I got home today. There is no way to fasten down as they don't have straps or a way to connect anything too. They're £80 too so extremely disappointed in this purchase.
Xtra large rubber gloves, like marigolds but black😂, can go over existing gloves,and keep your hands dry.sodden gloves are dangerous.
How do you waterproof the thorat/neck area??? After an hour in the rain I always get water that's soaked through my neckwarmer or buff and it starts to drip on the inside my jacket and down my stomach. Any ideas ?
10000 is definitely not waterproof. That's ok in a shower but not goid for actual rain. 30k is waterproof.
Laminated layers are best especially as the good ones have excellent through venting.
My 20yr old one-piece "Motoline" waterproofs still do the job, how's that for a long term test?
Fair weather rider these days though, I just pop on the one-piece suit and Held overgloves if I get caught in a downpour.
Dated Visio dry! You can’t touch it and didn’t work for me… too expensive too!
Motolegends pay their rent with the sale of Scott waterproofs. Risky helmet position. You can see it wobble as you are leaning on your bike 😳
We all know how to stay dry. The problem i see is the complete and total disappearance of big powerful bike riders disappearing like flies in winter from U.K roads cos they’re scared sh*#less of riding.
I have the ultimate riding dry gear.
And tbh the only thing u need to keep ontop of-is keeping your sprocket(s) and chain clean and lubed. The bike is going to get wrecked. Just focus on maintaining good protection on metal components. Forget the plastics till you know you have 3-4 good dry days
Closing all vents on your helmet will only make it fog up even more. Use common sense, folks.
Trench 2 GTX ❤
Ergo pro , sleeves & legs r short 👎 big belly. Not ergo at all😂😂😂 design failure and still they dont have Ergo2 , why ?????
0:00 what did u just say?
Never buy Goretex.
What is the little side messenger bag that you have and the name brand and model please. Thanks
The side racks are sw motec SLC range they have a range of soft to semi rigid bags and panniers to choose from.
The little bag that is next to your backpack is sw motech?
Clear those weeds 😂
👍
Wear waterproof clothing
Where’s the waterproof snood/ scarf ? Waters just gonna run down your neck 😂
Very good question!
dont ride in the rain 😂
Doesn't IP goes up to 9? IP69?
don't go out in the wet
First 🥳
I use the car.
😂