Midnight Mass portrayed religion better than almost any other piece of filmmaking I’ve seen. It’s not black and white and doesn’t paint religion as a purely bad thing. It’s critical but not preachy. Mike Flanagan is absolutely brilliant at using emotion and tragedy to tell his stories in a way that deeply humanizes every character. He doesn’t want to tell you the message, he wants you to feel it. He gets the message across to the audience in a way that is capable of bypassing individual egos and biases. I’ve always been a fan of Mike Flanagan but this is by far his best work and one of the best pieces of filmmaking I’ve seen in a decade.
Midnight Mass come hot after my deconstruction and put so many things I was struggling with into perspective in addition to be scary and awesome to watch
1:08:53 The studio failed Dr Sleep. A first week of NOVEMBER release date & barely marketed it. WB didn’t want to take away from IT Chapter 2, it’s their fault!
50:00 yes!! I was a freshman or sophomore in college when Jesus Camp came out, but took a while to watch it. I grew up going to similar camps and youth groups but also really into academic studies and culture. Cut ties with church asap. I’ve been soo frustrated for the last ~15 years trying to get left/liberal folks to understand the threat and need for a long term strategy
Jessica's joy in this video is just sooo infectious. I've not watched any of Mike Flanagan's work (sue me!) but he was a great guest and the interaction here was great to watch.
@@RavnerRavnerGiven the topics discussed, they could be referring to either religion or substance abuse: this was such an interesting interview! Congrats on your recovery, OP! Wishing you well!
This guy went to my high school..graduated 2 years after me in '96 Archbishop Spalding in Severn Md..a Catholic High School..he's changed his tune many times over the years but definitely a talented guy
This subject is so important. There are way too many alcoholics turned off by AA because it's hard to work around the belief issue and actually a bit insulting.That this has been around since the 40's and nothing has been created as a somewhat successful alternative. At least not that I'm aware of.
Well my whole family is either atheists or agnostics and AA and never had a problem with it, and almost none of the alcoholics are religious I feel that most that have never been to an AA meeting (to be fair while nobody in my family is religious we have no feud with religion)
Wow. What an incredible interview with incredible connections to so many things I enjoy: critiquing religion (but also seeing redeeming moments), horror, and Stephen King... I loved this. Good for my soul.
I got to the halfway point and it sounded like things were wrapping up and I had to go to bed, then I see there's another _hour_ left in the video I came back though, and loved every bonus minute of it! You knocked it out of the park!
Midnight Mass was fantastic, I wasn't sure honestly through the first half of the series, but I loved the character who played the priest, and the skeptic who was meeting with him for recovery, I don't want to give any spoilers but I was a little bummed out about a couple characters who got killed off. All in all it was a great series and I went on to watch The Haunting of Hill House and Bly Manor
One of the best director ever 👌 everything he touches is gold ! I don't belive in any god but my famaly does and I cried so much at the end of Midnight Mass !
I'm gonna be honest, this was my first time hearing about these works but I'm gonna have to look into them (given that it sounds like largely horror its uncertain if I'll watch, but I appreciate the clear passion for his work enough that its at least worth my time to look into them)
Although his works involve horror, there is a great deal more introspection rather than jump scare tactics that other modern horrors promote. If anything, his works are much more like the gothic horror stories of the 18th, where it was about how the characters feel and react rather than the Big Bad jumping out of nowhere. I'd start with the Haunting of Hill House - briefly, it's about the kids of a haunted house AFTER they have grown up.
Like Rick said, Flanagan is mainly a horror director, but much of his work is introspection on the human condition. Hill House is my favorite of Flanagans as well (the best horror tv show of all time imo), but if you’re looking for some of his work that’s a little more toned down horror wise, “Before I Wake” is a fantastic story about love, loss, grief, childhood innocence and family. It still has horror elements but is very well acted and moving in its message.
"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." Robert A. Heinlein
I am in a 12 step program and an atheist. AA is rooted in personal responsibility, that is the backbone of it-hence the fourth step. Letting go and letting god is about letting go of the things that you don't have control over and concentration on the things you can change. The higher power part is about acknowledging that you are not one. I have an agnostic sponsor and no one in my home group cares that I am an atheist, Everyone has very different religious/ spiritual beliefs. I like to share in meetings about how I practice whatever step we are on as an atheist. Basically, you have to find the group/sponsor that is right for you.
Good interview, however, this is the first time I have seen Jessica's face, and I think I was a little distracted at the start by some form of "NPR syndrome", or whatever it is called when the person behind the voice you have been hearing does not look like what you were envisioning... Though I suppose I am not sure what I thought Jessica looked like, or why I thought it, but that's a me problem.
He may have grown up in a Catholic setting, but it's clear from the way he speaks of how he engaged with the faith that he doesn't know Catholic doctrine and teaching. Neither him nor the hostess should be taken seriously when it comes to their views on Catholicism or Christianity in general.
@@bebeenderson7863 you mean the doctrine of the Trinity, the doctrine of Jesus being fully God and fully man, the doctrine of the Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, the doctrine that allowed for the formalization of the Canon of Sacred Scripture and many more doctrines? Catholic doctrine is the source of all Christian doctrine because it was established in authority by Christ and passed down through the Apostles and to their successors and so on and so forth up to this present day.
Midnight Mass portrayed religion better than almost any other piece of filmmaking I’ve seen. It’s not black and white and doesn’t paint religion as a purely bad thing. It’s critical but not preachy. Mike Flanagan is absolutely brilliant at using emotion and tragedy to tell his stories in a way that deeply humanizes every character. He doesn’t want to tell you the message, he wants you to feel it. He gets the message across to the audience in a way that is capable of bypassing individual egos and biases. I’ve always been a fan of Mike Flanagan but this is by far his best work and one of the best pieces of filmmaking I’ve seen in a decade.
Agreed on every point.
I like to judge how well a piece of work is on how much it makes me cry. Needless to say I love his work.
Midnight Mass come hot after my deconstruction and put so many things I was struggling with into perspective in addition to be scary and awesome to watch
As a former Catholic, I fucking loved this show
1:08:53 The studio failed Dr Sleep. A first week of NOVEMBER release date & barely marketed it. WB didn’t want to take away from IT Chapter 2, it’s their fault!
man i'm starting to think that show wasn't really about vampires at all... 🧛
I wish I could upvote this more than once.
Mike is a very wise man. I love all of his work, and the raw humanity & life experience just shines through each movie/ show
50:00 yes!! I was a freshman or sophomore in college when Jesus Camp came out, but took a while to watch it. I grew up going to similar camps and youth groups but also really into academic studies and culture. Cut ties with church asap. I’ve been soo frustrated for the last ~15 years trying to get left/liberal folks to understand the threat and need for a long term strategy
Thank you for your time and effort 💛 I love everything you do!
Jessica's joy in this video is just sooo infectious. I've not watched any of Mike Flanagan's work (sue me!) but he was a great guest and the interaction here was great to watch.
As a Recovering Catholic, this whole series was BRILLIANT!
Recovering Catholic?
love the term “Recovering Catholic” lol
@@RavnerRavnerGiven the topics discussed, they could be referring to either religion or substance abuse: this was such an interesting interview!
Congrats on your recovery, OP! Wishing you well!
This guy went to my high school..graduated 2 years after me in '96 Archbishop Spalding in Severn Md..a Catholic High School..he's changed his tune many times over the years but definitely a talented guy
This subject is so important. There are way too many alcoholics turned off by AA because it's hard to work around the belief issue and actually a bit insulting.That this has been around since the 40's and nothing has been created as a somewhat successful alternative. At least not that I'm aware of.
Secular Sobriety, or SMART exist, but with the automatic assigning of victims to AA by judges, it's hard for such organisations to get noticed.
Well my whole family is either atheists or agnostics and AA and never had a problem with it, and almost none of the alcoholics are religious I feel that most that have never been to an AA meeting (to be fair while nobody in my family is religious we have no feud with religion)
@@Danheron2I'm glad AA has worked well for your loved ones, but they've benefited despite the program, not because of it.
Wow. What an incredible interview with incredible connections to so many things I enjoy: critiquing religion (but also seeing redeeming moments), horror, and Stephen King... I loved this. Good for my soul.
I got to the halfway point and it sounded like things were wrapping up and I had to go to bed, then I see there's another _hour_ left in the video
I came back though, and loved every bonus minute of it! You knocked it out of the park!
This was an amazing interview! 🔥🙌
Midnight Mass was fantastic, I wasn't sure honestly through the first half of the series, but I loved the character who played the priest, and the skeptic who was meeting with him for recovery, I don't want to give any spoilers but I was a little bummed out about a couple characters who got killed off. All in all it was a great series and I went on to watch The Haunting of Hill House and Bly Manor
One of the best director ever 👌 everything he touches is gold !
I don't belive in any god but my famaly does and I cried so much at the end of Midnight Mass !
Jessica smiling and laughing made a great interview even better
I can definitely see how the story of Passover influenced this story
I'm gonna be honest, this was my first time hearing about these works but I'm gonna have to look into them (given that it sounds like largely horror its uncertain if I'll watch, but I appreciate the clear passion for his work enough that its at least worth my time to look into them)
Although his works involve horror, there is a great deal more introspection rather than jump scare tactics that other modern horrors promote. If anything, his works are much more like the gothic horror stories of the 18th, where it was about how the characters feel and react rather than the Big Bad jumping out of nowhere. I'd start with the Haunting of Hill House - briefly, it's about the kids of a haunted house AFTER they have grown up.
@@RickReasonnz interesting, thank you very much :) I shall check it out
Like Rick said, Flanagan is mainly a horror director, but much of his work is introspection on the human condition. Hill House is my favorite of Flanagans as well (the best horror tv show of all time imo), but if you’re looking for some of his work that’s a little more toned down horror wise, “Before I Wake” is a fantastic story about love, loss, grief, childhood innocence and family. It still has horror elements but is very well acted and moving in its message.
“This is an anthology collection, of Iron Age philosophy from hundreds of individual writers none of whom are coordinating! It’s a mess!” 👌
Omg how am I just now seeing this??
Loved Midnight Mass.
"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire."
Robert A. Heinlein
🥺 mike 💜
For the record Maximum Overdrive might be objectively bad but it's a collection of hilarious moments back to back to back and I'm guilty of loving it
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I am in a 12 step program and an atheist. AA is rooted in personal responsibility, that is the backbone of it-hence the fourth step. Letting go and letting god is about letting go of the things that you don't have control over and concentration on the things you can change. The higher power part is about acknowledging that you are not one. I have an agnostic sponsor and no one in my home group cares that I am an atheist, Everyone has very different religious/ spiritual beliefs. I like to share in meetings about how I practice whatever step we are on as an atheist. Basically, you have to find the group/sponsor that is right for you.
Listening to this post-The Dark Tower news knowing Mike's dream 10 year project is his adaption of King's opus 🤭
Great conversation but the shrill nervous laughter of interviewers and their constant interruption get very irritating.
Good interview, however, this is the first time I have seen Jessica's face, and I think I was a little distracted at the start by some form of "NPR syndrome", or whatever it is called when the person behind the voice you have been hearing does not look like what you were envisioning... Though I suppose I am not sure what I thought Jessica looked like, or why I thought it, but that's a me problem.
He may have grown up in a Catholic setting, but it's clear from the way he speaks of how he engaged with the faith that he doesn't know Catholic doctrine and teaching. Neither him nor the hostess should be taken seriously when it comes to their views on Catholicism or Christianity in general.
Yea, it’s weird to hear grown people with such Reddit tier takes on religion and Christianity.
No matter what the doctrine says, we have no reason to believe in it whatsoever
@@bebeenderson7863 you mean the doctrine of the Trinity, the doctrine of Jesus being fully God and fully man, the doctrine of the Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, the doctrine that allowed for the formalization of the Canon of Sacred Scripture and many more doctrines? Catholic doctrine is the source of all Christian doctrine because it was established in authority by Christ and passed down through the Apostles and to their successors and so on and so forth up to this present day.
@@samoa7431 yea all that made up stuff…glorify mythology..
@Bebe Enderson that's just ignorant. It's the same as saying slavery never happened.
Love Mike Flanagan but interviewer sounds ridiculous, so annoying! Why does she cackle non stop?
Please sort out the audio. Despite the obvious pop shield you were popping coninuously - couldn't keep listening.
It’s called AA for a reason. It’s anonymous you’re not supposed to be talking about it like that.