Rim Brake Resurgence? The TriRig Omega One

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.พ. 2024
  • Here's a video that's sure to cause a stir. At TriRig, we believe in the right solutions to each problem. And disc brakes in triathlon are simply NOT the ideal solution. Here's why we think rim brakes are still king of the hill in our sport. Check out the products mentioned in this video:
    Omega One: tririg.com/products/omega-one...
    Sigma One: tririg.com/collections/stems/...
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  •  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +438

    I can't believe that as a mountain biker i just watched a 7 minute ad of an areo rim brake :D

    • @rickdeckard6597
      @rickdeckard6597 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Same here... I can't explain...

    • @TheMrbrookster
      @TheMrbrookster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Dunno, it seemed more like an infomercial.

    • @judosteffer
      @judosteffer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Dudes a hell of a salesman

    • @markusseppala6547
      @markusseppala6547 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's the manson lamps

    • @myburneraccount669
      @myburneraccount669 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Next week you gonna buy a gravel bike, and a week after that a touring bike, and then finally a road bike

  • @leftymadrid
    @leftymadrid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Rim brakes are perfect for my riding abilities...
    What's really incredible and sickening is how those companies tried to force riders into the Disc brake ...

  • @MrChippinator
    @MrChippinator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Last spring I was out cycling in pouring rain. My bike has rim brakes but I use alloy rims. I had no problems stopping whatsoever. I'm not racing, ride my bike for training (I also go to the gym), so I see no reason to replace my 10 year old bike with rim brakes and alloy rims. Never had a problem with that setup.

    • @deadreckoner5276
      @deadreckoner5276 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have mostly rim brake bikes. But I have GRX Di2 hydraulics on my gravel bike and they are honestly incredible. For adverse weather and rougher conditions disc is a no brainer.

  • @drill_fiend1097
    @drill_fiend1097 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    These are fine for road/triathlon bikes on dry, sunny day, but for gravel, mountain and general mixed weather commuting I would prefer disc.

  • @vasiliipopov416
    @vasiliipopov416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    The last rim brake bike I had was cursed with one issue - since I lived in northern parts with lots of rains and did ride on all surfaces, including light gravel, every season I had to change the wheels because the dust and sand combined with water created a perfect grinding paste to obliterate the rim's braking surface. I used Kool Stop wet weather brake pads and those served for about 5-7 thousand kilometers, however, for each two pairs of pads new rims were needed as well. There you have it for "simplicity" and "ease of maintenance". And we don't even have as much rain as in the UK.

    • @oreocarlton3343
      @oreocarlton3343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You had alu or carbon rims and cleaned them regularly?

    • @wesleyvandeurzen7199
      @wesleyvandeurzen7199 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      wiping down the rims and the pads takes like 5 minutes. You should have done that atleast 1 time a week if you ride alot

    • @StonerOnLane
      @StonerOnLane 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Don't blame the equipment for your relaxation, I live in a beach area, I get rained on all the time and my rims have 30,000km

    • @markthomasson5077
      @markthomasson5077 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And scary if you blow a rim.

    • @markthomasson5077
      @markthomasson5077 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess if you can afford such exotic kit, either you can afford new rims, or you save it for race days

  • @aaceytuno
    @aaceytuno 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Have these on a 2007 Cyfac proxidium aluminum frame bike , maximized for aero and durable parts with 60mm deep wheels, not weight weening sits at 7kg . The thing is a rocket , prior to Tri-rig install , I noticed that the only place that always gathered dust was the front of the headset , hence a dead spot for air . I installed these puppies on the front, now there is no dirt on the headset because this thing is slicing the air . Hands down , this brake does what’s advertised on the box .

    • @tririg
      @tririg  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Awesome! We love hearing independent results, tests, anecdotes, etc, just as you’ve described. We try very hard to be very honest in our claims.

  • @robertsamuel1994
    @robertsamuel1994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Great vid. Couple of points you didn't touch upon: Tyre clearance, rolling resistance and tyre-rim aerodynamics. Would love to hear you thoughts on those, as they are stated to be extra benefits for disc brakes.

    • @tririg
      @tririg  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Definitely worthy of future discussion! I did have some of that in this video but it was already getting too long so I clipped it. Long story short … even accounting for those factors it’s still in favor of rim brakes. But by all means use wide rims and tires! Omega One opens VERY wide and can easily bite a 32mm+ rim.

    • @stijndeklerk
      @stijndeklerk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Just what I was thinking. Even pro cyclists are opting for 30-32mm tires no (because they are no longer restricted by rimbrake caliper width.

    • @leesem3201
      @leesem3201 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      How are you going to hide the cables? All your aero gains lost with the exposed cables.

    • @IlPinnacolo
      @IlPinnacolo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​​@@leesem3201the cable sits directly ahead of the head tube so there's no increase in frontal area.

    • @evanm.2300
      @evanm.2300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@leesem3201 dude its a cable...ur fine😅

  • @bretzky9261
    @bretzky9261 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Awesome video, i'm glad someone finally said it.

  • @jamesdpayton83
    @jamesdpayton83 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I have never come across a set of brakes that stop better than my old Shimano xtr v brakes.

    • @manchesterexplorer8519
      @manchesterexplorer8519 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I rock the XTR's on my 1991 Kona Hei Hei and they work great . The only thing a disc brake is needed for is downhill mountain biking , other than for extreme downhill biking disc brakes are never really needed.

    • @oreocarlton3343
      @oreocarlton3343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hydraulic Disc's are way more powerful than the strongest vbrake, but all that power is useless outside of mtb, disc's also have a strong initial bite compared to rims so a lot of initial modulation is lost

  • @heiko6376
    @heiko6376 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great. That video makes my day (and that of my 2018 P5) 😎

  • @johndavid3474
    @johndavid3474 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a good video that’ll strengthen people’s faith in rim brakes.
    I have a disc brake frame that needs disc brakes, even though this video was not what I was looking for, I found this it very informative.

  • @SkarTisu
    @SkarTisu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good job building in tire clearance and additional reach adjustment. Those were the two things that immediately came to mind as worries when I started the video.

  • @TheAntoine191
    @TheAntoine191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    It might not be relevant to a pure racing triathlon bike but what i like in discs is wet braking consistency and not grinding my carbon rims. Then i m a rim brake user, mostly because i dont want to change stuff that work and perform.

    • @weberito
      @weberito 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Guy is just selling his product omitting the obvious. Really poor marketing.

    • @rosomak8244
      @rosomak8244 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@weberito Ah the rain man argument again. That's because people love to get out on a bike when there water is pouring from the skies. BTW> Switch your pads when they are no good in rain.

    • @weberito
      @weberito 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@rosomak8244 I guess you just never mtb’d in moderate climate where quarter of the year is muddy, this is not imaginary problem

    • @DilbertMuc
      @DilbertMuc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rosomak8244 I guess you never cycled in the Alps where on blue sky suddenly clouds appear and you have a 1000m descent in rain showers. Canti and rim brakes in general let you grow grey hair in a time lapse all the way down to the valley.

  • @rollerinside
    @rollerinside 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the product, love the way you designed it going backwards.

  • @jasonhurdlow6607
    @jasonhurdlow6607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    Really sick of the forced move to disc brakes personally. A properly setup set of rim brakes rocks, without all the weight and squealing of disks. I prefer the feel as well.

    • @ericl6460
      @ericl6460 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Sick of being forced to move to cars. A properly fed horse rocks. I prefer the feel as well
      😂

    • @jasonhurdlow6607
      @jasonhurdlow6607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ericl6460 Montana is calling... 😁

    • @makantahi3731
      @makantahi3731 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      it is good only in wet condition, in dry condition , road bike design can not take all power of disc brakes because of too short wheel distance

    • @TheRimBrakeGuy
      @TheRimBrakeGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ericl6460yeah go get that car, make sure its an EV to save the environment too, don't miss out 🤡

    • @HCMORGI
      @HCMORGI 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      unless you ride in all weather, were rim brakes suck and shred your expensive rims. for traithlon and sun shine only riders - sure, stick to your rim brakes.

  • @jeraldsomdahl5651
    @jeraldsomdahl5651 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I've used rim brakes for over 50 years. 3-4 thousand miles a year. Can't see any reason to change to discs. I did use hub brakes for a while in a rainy area. I do have Tririg brakes on my tt bike.

    • @peterdallyn6440
      @peterdallyn6440 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It depends on what you're using the bike for. I've used rim brakes for 30 years and love my disc brakes, far superior. In the wet there's no competition.

    • @granfondoguide5991
      @granfondoguide5991 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on!

  • @BennoSattler
    @BennoSattler 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    @Hambini @PeakTorque might be needed here, hello 🙂

  • @twistoffat
    @twistoffat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Campagnolo Delta reborn. New and improved

    • @danieletognozzi7641
      @danieletognozzi7641 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      While Campagnolo drops out of the pro peloton and the hearts of cyclists for not daring stick to their roots

    • @Primifluous
      @Primifluous 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I would say if delta and suntour roller cam brakes had a baby.

  • @joshuadohmen
    @joshuadohmen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Using them on a P5. Best rim brake I have ever used! Expensive though ...

    • @universe-juice
      @universe-juice 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im a huge fan of the p5. How has it been for you?

    • @joshuadohmen
      @joshuadohmen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@universe-juice good so far. Interesting to see that the old p5 frame is still used by so many. Martin Toft Madsen, Anna Kiesenhofer, Dan Bigham ...

  • @michaelspangenberg2792
    @michaelspangenberg2792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a long time believer in disc brakes don't belong on the road, I am stoked to see this!! Great work guys❤

  • @tripleb7232
    @tripleb7232 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Nick! Great stuff 👍💥

  • @markahles1580
    @markahles1580 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video. Good for tri bikes! Same analogy would apply to road bikes as well. Grand tours seem to have more downhill crashes with all disc bikes over past rim bike tours especially in the wet. Brake modulation?

    • @svenweihusen57
      @svenweihusen57 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually the modulation is better for disc brakes. CGN made a test and while braking power on dry tarmac was similar disc performed better on lose underground or in wet conditions.
      Disc brakes will not cut it for road cycling but are better for everyday use and sports where you have to brake hard and often.

  • @federicozucconi2937
    @federicozucconi2937 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    what about the negative effect of rim brakes on carbon wheels, i.e. dirt and temperature damaging the carbon and possibly causing ruptures?

  • @psnSupergrobi10
    @psnSupergrobi10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I mount this on my Pinarello Dogma F Rim brake version?

  • @planttheseed2129
    @planttheseed2129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a Custom Titanium Rim break and a Trek Domane 5.2 Rim brake. Will these fit on these bikes?

  • @MrMarianolore
    @MrMarianolore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Over 500$ for a rim brakes.......its a joke

  • @dcv9460
    @dcv9460 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That's okay for a time trial/aero bike ONLY 💯

  • @scottcopeland7457
    @scottcopeland7457 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have two disc brake bikes and two rim brake bikes. The disc brakes are no comparison to my Ultegra rim brakes with Kool Stop brake pads in either power or modulation. For off road use there is a small advantage to disc brakes although canti’s off road are a viable option. Enjoy your day my friends.

  • @OGillo2001
    @OGillo2001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a mate put it, '...on Mallorca, disc brakes are solving a problem we haven't got...'

  • @Grunge_Cycling
    @Grunge_Cycling 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the new Omega One work with newer road bike frames with direct-mount forks? Like the Pinarello F12?

  • @Reeses0810
    @Reeses0810 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My old haro mtb with XTR rim brakes stops with modulation and brute force

  • @gregbianchi2689
    @gregbianchi2689 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have Cane Creek EE brakes and love them. Light and very strong.

  • @ThomasGerlach4Tri
    @ThomasGerlach4Tri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Nice explanation Nick. Another product (disc) that was invented to solve a problem that doesn't really exist in triathlon. Especially so if pairing rim brakes with HED JET+ Black rims.

    • @ivanboesky1520
      @ivanboesky1520 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well to be honest disc brakes have not been pushed onto the road bike and Tri world by accident. It is and has always been about profits. Sell the rider a disc brake at a higher initial price and margin versus a rim brake and put them into a product that is far more finicky, and requires both its brake pads and rotors to be replaced far more frequently and at far higher replacement costs versus a rim brake. 😀

    • @andreaslaroi8956
      @andreaslaroi8956 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ivanboesky1520 While your point has some merit, you're making it under a video selling a $275 rim brake.

    • @paulflory3532
      @paulflory3532 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andreaslaroi8956 While your point is well taken, it's worth pointing out that really really nice Ultegra 8000 rim brakes can be had for $65 each. Far superior to the single pivot side pull rim brakes of yore. One of the plusses of the mfrs pushing to discs is great discounts on rim stuff.

  • @BillyTheKidsGhost
    @BillyTheKidsGhost 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can we also please keep the square taper bottom bracket?.... Or at least a threaded bottom bracket?

  • @joggerino3284
    @joggerino3284 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But what is the clearance? up to 32-35 mm?

  • @michael26206
    @michael26206 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just used a pair of Tririg Omega one on my 2016 supersix evo 2 months ago, good outlook but less stopping force compare with original Shimano UT6800 brake

    • @DilbertMuc
      @DilbertMuc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You said it! I don't see a good mechanical lever on the Omega like on the Shimanos. Omega looks more like a concealed cantilever brake to me. 🤔

  • @iantyrrell6549
    @iantyrrell6549 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can these brakes be used on a normal carbon road bike ?

  • @MarcAntoineBouchet
    @MarcAntoineBouchet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    living in the Alps, by any weather, I'd never go back to rim brakes for 10km+ steep downhills, mostly during rainy days, discs have been game changers for safety here, already had exploded a tube because of the heat generated on the rim.
    But for flat riding, aero, maintenance and cost, I totally agree with you.

    • @oreocarlton3343
      @oreocarlton3343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It exploded on carbon clinchers?

    • @MarcAntoineBouchet
      @MarcAntoineBouchet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@oreocarlton3343 It was on aluminum Mavic front rim after I climbed the "Semnoz"

    • @oreocarlton3343
      @oreocarlton3343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MarcAntoineBouchet yikes, did you crashed? It happened to me as well, before I thought it was a myth but because of wrong pads on ceramic oldschool rims

    • @MarcAntoineBouchet
      @MarcAntoineBouchet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oreocarlton3343 yes I did, but I've been lucky not to get hurt, I'm really careful since this happened^^
      I hope you didn't crash, it's scary ! It only happened one time for me.

    • @oreocarlton3343
      @oreocarlton3343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarcAntoineBouchet I did mtb for a long time and decided to get a road bike (like many XXXtreme mtbers who try road you entered it with a slight sense of superiority and thing you know everything important), I got a very nice old school used road bike for a nice price.
      Since I was on hydro disc brakes for so long and did the same mountain road descents on my local mountain in Croatia with my old V-brake mtb, I thought I knew everything I need to know about brakes and especially rim brakes and didnt asked a mechanic to look the bike up (since after all I majored to hydros and did XXXtreme mtb - many people sadly get to think like that) . What I forgot to realize is that stated max tire pressure on road is more than 2x of mtb time so a big volume mtb tire is very hard to explode by rim overheating...anyway on my first descent with that road bike (it had shimano pads on ceramic mavic rims and not salmons when I bought it so you really had to squeeze it and 20mm skinwalls but Im no complainer and forgot the technicalities of rims and pad combo during that time) on the same road Ive done so many times I noticed a change in pressure on the front tire after exiting a switchback at around 40kmh. Ive experienced many rear pinchflats and a few fronts on mtb so the feeling of pressure loss at speeds was there. I stopped at the side of the road to check the front tire and it was dead flat. Rim was ultra hot. I didnt crashed but a lot could have happened if I didnt stop to check when I felt I needed to.
      After that Ive changed rims and pads, never dragged the brake like a tool and it never happened again, but tube blowouts from braking are not a myth they can be fatal at descent speeds. I think they are more common with beginners who drag the brakes and not brake with intention to let them cool down. Long story but Ive learned a lot from it.
      Also, rim brake bikes, braking aside, are more enjoyable to ride, they feel more planted, disc brakes also have spoke windup and their initial bite is noticeable compared to calipers. Ive only noticed that after riding rims again.

  • @georgehagstrom4022
    @georgehagstrom4022 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really like the product design and think it could be good for road bikes given the move to wider tires. Anyone here have experience using these on the road with Campy levers? Am curious how they feel with the campy cable pull.

  • @askmeaboutmattweiner
    @askmeaboutmattweiner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    The company selling high end rim brakes explaining why rim brakes are better.

    • @tririg
      @tririg  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Yes. But we design what we want. No one tells us we MUST design rim brakes over disc brakes. This video explains why we choose to do so.

    • @blaze1148
      @blaze1148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      haha - yup

    • @jaymueller2418
      @jaymueller2418 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tririgIt’s a fantastic brake and looks beautiful. It’s great for people looking for a powerful, aero, and well built brake for their rim brake rig. But the likelihood of the market swinging back toward rim brakes is low.

    • @frozerekmeyata4091
      @frozerekmeyata4091 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jaymueller2418 Just because the market is swinging that way doesn't mean that marketing is right. The only place where disk brakes are needed on a road bike is on CF rims, those are what the pros use, the average rider has no reason to be riding on CF rims other than to look like a pro racer complete with the drugstore racer look of wearing racing kit. Just because professional snake oil pushers say we all need to be on disk brakes doesn't mean they're right. This is all about money, the marketing forces are trying to take as much money as possible out of cyclists' credit cards, and we're all stupid enough to believe the lies and spend the money...and they know it.

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@frozerekmeyata4091 and this video is also trying to take as much money away from you as possible too, since this is a marketing video 😉
      It's not about rim or disc for me, it's about cable vs. hydraulic actuation. If they had affordable hydraulic rim brakes, maybe i'd get one. Once i experienced the smoothness of hydraulic actuation, there's just no going back. It's like cable clutch vs. hydraulic clutch, cable feels jurassic.

  • @Todd66
    @Todd66 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can see how Rim Brake would be better for aero.
    I’m a MTB rider, so disc brakes are really ideal for my application, but damn!!! Those TRO 1 are badass looking. I DIG the engineering, so impressive. If I rode road (lol) I would rock those bad boys.
    Kudos
    Good video too!

  • @user-so8qg8ys5b
    @user-so8qg8ys5b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Campag Chorus Monoplaner still not beaten by design :)
    Used similar construction on vintage AX Shimano brakes, same working principle, but they are just not stopping you and requires almost no innitial gap between pad and rim.

  • @americanchallenger
    @americanchallenger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @czeckson74
    @czeckson74 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    rim for life

    • @stevenmarshall7078
      @stevenmarshall7078 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too. I would live and die with a rim brake. Tour de France been racing with rim brake for years. Go rim brake.

  • @yosacfc
    @yosacfc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good video!

  • @BrianAndTheBike
    @BrianAndTheBike 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your approach to innovation, what did you studied how can anyone start on bike design?

  • @ohnezuckerohnefett
    @ohnezuckerohnefett 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for stepping out of your shower just to bring us this important message.

  • @psclassy1123
    @psclassy1123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful and Im sure effective brake. What if you ride in the mountains a lot?

    • @tririg
      @tririg  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mountain/trail riding is a good candidate for rim brakes. Mud will get caked on your tires/rims and impede the mechanics of braking. Separating the braking on an independent rotor helps in those cases.

  • @waynehadley1999
    @waynehadley1999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have these on my Kestrel LTD 4000, great brakes!

  • @aldrinclementina4297
    @aldrinclementina4297 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So this is only for TT bike frames? 😢
    No version for aero road bike frame??

    • @novan3
      @novan3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was wondering if this would be compatible with a '19 Ridley Noah Fast frame by switching out the direct mounted BR-R9110-F caliper

  • @lucky.youtube
    @lucky.youtube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about TT frames where the brake is at the back of the fork and/or under the rear the chain stays ?

  • @lukaszbbbb
    @lukaszbbbb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cant wait to use it.

  • @stfu6397
    @stfu6397 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video filled with facts

  • @MrMasterFlash
    @MrMasterFlash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great pitch. Please explain why they are only good for triathlon bikes

  • @tomrachellesfirstdance7843
    @tomrachellesfirstdance7843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I still have a rim brake bike and the prices of bikes I cannot justify spending so much to get a new bike on par just for disks. I am glad your still pushing the tech the brakes look sweet too. Convincing the Mrs to part way with the money they are.. That will be difficult 😂

  • @alexanderkorchagin67
    @alexanderkorchagin67 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is this brackes compatible with Van Rysel EDR AF 105 ?

  • @etr9650
    @etr9650 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome pitch! Truely.

  • @bkik5
    @bkik5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the maximum tyre size these will take?

  • @ClarkS963
    @ClarkS963 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    They are absolutely superior for triathletes. Triathletes aren't braking like road racers anyway. And so much simpler to work on when traveling for races.

    • @newtoncoffin2254
      @newtoncoffin2254 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      i own 7 bikes all rim brakes no issues i don't go down the Swiss alps in the pouring rain who does

    • @snorttroll4379
      @snorttroll4379 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I do

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@newtoncoffin2254 I've downsized to 8 bikes. Disc brakes are hands down, better than rim brakes. Even in dry weather, they're significantly better. I'm a 10min warmup ride to 2 different HC climbs I've ridden significantly more in rim brakes than disc brakes. But I descend significantly faster due to being able to brake so much later than with rim brakes

    • @GaweNowakowski
      @GaweNowakowski 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@newtoncoffin2254I was in alps with my rim brake road bike and my brother on discs. During descents I didnt have any problems with overheating contrary to my brother, but I would prefer to have discs when it was raining.

    • @beeldpuntXVI
      @beeldpuntXVI 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @vegan…
      What’s the complete stup whit what materials are you comparing, which brakeman’s? Material composition.
      The power of braking is only determined by tyre choice, right before the tire skids on the ground a fraction o a second before this skid you reached max breakpower. For both systems it’s The same

  • @jeremynorth
    @jeremynorth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are very expensive. I couldn't see on the website any pictures of the rear of the calliper to see the fixing bolt. Is it direct mount only ? Pretty vague!

  • @workshopninjathe1st
    @workshopninjathe1st 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So it’s a refined campagnolo delta brake from the 80s?

  • @blacklion79
    @blacklion79 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder, how lower drag becomes with this brake instead of no brake or simple brake like Ultegra? Not for frame or bike, but for the whole system of bike and not-so-aerodynsmic body of the rider?
    Is it 0.5%? 1‰? And what is the precision of the measurement instrument used? I want to see charts with error bars!

  • @ciap1
    @ciap1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aren't there already bikes with an integrated rim brake caliper tucked in behind the fork. I remember even a trek with the rear brake at the chainstay. What exactly is new here?

  • @Timtimzi
    @Timtimzi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it work on roadbikes? I have a dogma f12 rim :D

  • @spindlehospital5263
    @spindlehospital5263 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how to lubricate friction surfaces?

  • @eonreeves4324
    @eonreeves4324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my hydraulic disc brakes. there was no looking back for me

  • @fdshybgv46twgs5ssrjufhfg-pf7lf
    @fdshybgv46twgs5ssrjufhfg-pf7lf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even though the price is high I still appreciate the continued development of rim brakes.

  • @Xayuap
    @Xayuap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yeah, but how offen will I have to change my laced rim?

    • @IlPinnacolo
      @IlPinnacolo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You don't ride enough for that to ever be an issue.

    • @Xayuap
      @Xayuap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      of course, in competition
      like for buying a hoop every race

  • @MONEYLAB001
    @MONEYLAB001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Would these fit a Vintage Racing Bike from the 1970s?? Feeling a restomod build if they do.

  • @dewindoethdwl2798
    @dewindoethdwl2798 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve always preferred the feel of rim brakes and with the right blocks, wet isn’t an issue. As for power? Look at what bicycle trials riders use, hydraulic rim brakes gripping roughed rims.

  • @pflichtprogramm1
    @pflichtprogramm1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel that for triathlon, one important thing has to be mentioned: The dynamics and agility of braking is far less important than in road bike racing. And this is why so many of the disc brake advantages are pointless in triathlon and rim brake disadvantages are minor - it is a sport in which cycling works just very different than racing in a group.

  • @michaelmappin4425
    @michaelmappin4425 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pads? I can't see replacement pads on the site. Carbon wheels and aluminum wheels use different pads. Even if you designed them to be compatible with both, I still need 2 sets for flats (carbon) or switching to mountains (aluminum).

  • @blaze1148
    @blaze1148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Don't carbon wheel rims wear with rim brakes.....
    Not getting rid of my discs - thanks.

  • @michaelmclennan6144
    @michaelmclennan6144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My cyclocross has extra long pads, amazing braking, in my opinion almost as good as discs without all the headaches. Once i swapped to swisstop on my rim road I've never felt like i needed discs but down steep descents i would much prefer to ride my disc bike.

  • @nizerp
    @nizerp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great way to extend the life and performance of old frames. Another important point that would be good to address is the availability of fast aluminum brake track rims. What's a best vs best comparison? Taking a system approach, what's the best rim brake total package vs best disc brake package?

    • @tririg
      @tririg  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great things to think about. We may do a follow up video with these things in mind.

    • @matkrek
      @matkrek 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hed jet

  • @ser.academia
    @ser.academia 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know you like speed @hambini... any thoughts?

  • @borthwey
    @borthwey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like a good product, but will it make a difference? Rim brakes are defeated in the market right now. Is this the product that will bring top and medium level rim brake frames back? Does any brand provide this option currently? That's all that matters for me and all those who do not see an advantage in disc brakes for road bikes.

  • @ChristianAlkjr
    @ChristianAlkjr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow...that was smooth

  • @BartAndrzejewski
    @BartAndrzejewski 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will this fit a Giant Propel from 2016?

  • @V___D
    @V___D 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TRP Aero V-Brakes, love them on my 10yo Giant Propel.

  • @jimcarriefanclub1537
    @jimcarriefanclub1537 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have never changed my 2017 Mavic Cosmic Xalianth brake pads.The wheels have a knurled alloy brake track and a stiffer harder pad. Even my shop was shocked they are still in perfect condition. You're lucky to get 6 months on DB pads.

  • @recyclespinning9839
    @recyclespinning9839 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Coming from old school, campy super record from the 80s. I bought another newer bike with dual pivot campy brakes , and campy brake cables, I was amazed at why you need disc brakes except maybe in the rain or mountains..

    • @ivanboesky1520
      @ivanboesky1520 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The only advantage they provide in the mountains is under extremely wet conditions or a poorly designed carbon rimmed wheel with a bad braking surface. In the dry a disc will heat up and start to warp on extended braking during a dry descent far faster than a rim wheels’ braking surface will because it has far less braking surface area than the outer edge of a wheel rim does. Plus the margin for error - distance from the brake to the braking surface is far smaller on a disc brake versus a rim brake making that warping disadvantage at the disc brake rotor even more of a detriment versus a rim brake.
      That doesn’t even get to the other obvious disadvantages in the mountains of discs versus rim brakes due to their inferior aerodynamics and the average weight of a typical disc brake set up is a good 1.5 pounds heavier than a typical comparable rim brake set up.

    • @MrChippinator
      @MrChippinator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Last spring I did both a crazy descent and a ride in pouring rain on my 10 year old Argon 18. In fact, I think rim brakes saved me as I got the line wrong on the descent. Basically I nearly went off the road but the fact that I had rim brakes ensured I didn't get a lockup and allowed me to get the bike under control before going off into the ditch. This way I was able to save the bike and stayed upright. Same thing, in severe downpour, you just need rim brakes on alloy rims. Discs have a negligible advantage on everything except carbon rims. That cycling trip, if nothing else, proved the efficacy of rim brakes when using alloy rims.

    • @rosomak8244
      @rosomak8244 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ivanboesky1520 You are very generous with the 1.5 pound claim. Typically it's even more.

    • @troydelbridge4878
      @troydelbridge4878 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rim brakes can be deadly in the wet when the riding surface is also dusty, I’ve experienced total rim braking failure on road descents under these conditions, but never with discs under the same conditions - the water and fine dust form what is essentially a lubricating compound between the pads and the rim making the generation of braking friction impossible - so there is a reason rim brakes have become outdated technology. I would never go back to rim brakes for safety reasons alone.

    • @MrChippinator
      @MrChippinator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@troydelbridge4878 were you using alloy or carbon rims? I agree rim brakes should be nowhere near a carbon rim.

  • @OnlineBike
    @OnlineBike 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always wondered if a rim braked bike, with the stiffness of a thru-axle system, might not be a fantastic and efficient design.

  • @victorrodriguez2806
    @victorrodriguez2806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I absolutely agree, Disc brakes are not necessarily on tri bikes or road bikes.
    The bicycle parts manufacturers forced them on bikes and bike shops. Then bike shops had to force them on the customer.
    The Disc system has had a ton of problems in the initial trial years. And have settled into a subpar marginal component.
    The bicycle was so great for over a hundred years due to its elegant simplicity.
    I know I'm preaching to the choir here so I'll cut my rant short.
    Thanks for staying in the game and continuing to innovate.
    In time we'll see disc drop off in popularity and become a high cost niche item that few will desire.

    • @jaymueller2418
      @jaymueller2418 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah. I mean, mountain bikes are all going back to rim brakes.

    • @manchesterexplorer8519
      @manchesterexplorer8519 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Disk brakes are not needed for anything other than for bombing down the side of a mountain.

    • @Bernholesurfer
      @Bernholesurfer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@jaymueller2418still riding my 26" Bridgestone MB-2 with Dia Compe cantilevers in the front and a Suntour Rollercam in the back. Not all of us crave performance and the latest tech available.

    • @rickstout01
      @rickstout01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Something hasn't been forced on you if there is an alternative.

    • @frozerekmeyata4091
      @frozerekmeyata4091 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jaymueller2418 I didn't read in his post anything about MTB's, can you read?

  • @Ironrav
    @Ironrav 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These have been around for years. I had one on my BMC.

  • @dalis994
    @dalis994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Still using rim brakes. I'm not racing, just riding for fun. Yes disc brakes are more consistent regardless of wheather. But I choose when I ride. I don't remember when I was soaked wet on my ride. If it rains (which is rare in my case) most of the time it's just light showers. As for excessive rim temperatures in the mountains, I rode thousands of kms in the mountains, mostly in the french alps, never had any problem with overheating. BTW I'm pretty light and that helps.

    • @MrChippinator
      @MrChippinator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I rode in pouring rain with rim brakes and alloy rims. No problems stopping whatsoever. The biggest issue is stopping on carbon rims. Unless you're racing, why do you need carbon rims anyway?

    • @vasiliipopov416
      @vasiliipopov416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I weren't riding in the rain, I'd probably have only 2 or 2.5 months of riding every year, which is unacceptable for a commute solution. And rim brakes eat through rim brake surfaces pretty easily if you live in a wetter part of the world, especially if your city isn't cleaned properly from the dust. I had a rim brake bike for two years and had to change the rear wheel twice and the front once for that reason.

  • @hoizkiacha
    @hoizkiacha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm still on rim brakes and ever will.

    • @hoizkiacha
      @hoizkiacha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plus: I like the cute little curly lock of hair on your forehead.

  • @johnclowes4531
    @johnclowes4531 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you do some for a tricycle double brake higgins tricycle also maybe also a lack of 700c tricycle conversion kits for 700c road bikes with 12 spd colnago bike master with 12spd tricycle kit zipp aero wheels how cool would that be

  • @michaelgnafakis430
    @michaelgnafakis430 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is actually really good race advice for tri and time trials bikes. They are flat out the worst handling bikes and would greatly benefit on better braking modulation. Ironman Sacramento had torrential downpours and some hard turns where modulation is hugely beneficial. And most tri athletes I’ve seen aren’t into bikes/maintenance and the reliability and simplicity of a cable verses hydraulic line is massive.
    The reworks stopped using them because of dirt,water and mud which only leaves water for tri and time bikes to deal with and modern compounds can easily solve that.
    Personally I only ride dirt but after volunteering on the course for sacs triathlons this makes total sense to me
    There’s drawbacks but not many.

  • @ThatGuyWearsZebraz
    @ThatGuyWearsZebraz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do you do direct mount?

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They made an adapter available for direct-mount frames.

    • @tririg
      @tririg  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes!

  • @MrHcharles
    @MrHcharles 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amen brother - swissstop black pads and alu swisside 625 rim braking track - 😍😍😍

  • @Dumbo3.1428
    @Dumbo3.1428 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Testing the supreme aerodynamics without the cables is the way to go!

    • @frozerekmeyata4091
      @frozerekmeyata4091 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They did that with internal housing.

    • @Dumbo3.1428
      @Dumbo3.1428 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frozerekmeyata4091 as far as I know there is no possibility to anker the cable somewhere else but on the top of the caliper. Wich means that they yust left it off

  • @675nero
    @675nero 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm staying in disc brakes. I love the stopping power even in the wet.

  • @Biohazed
    @Biohazed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Merde. I just bought a disc brake bike (with cable shifters) and have been holding out for years with my aging rim brake bike. You just described what I've been thinking and theorizing for years. My new bike has nice Mavic aluminum rims with bladed spokes.

  • @makantahi3731
    @makantahi3731 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    old favorit brakes with new coating?

  • @MrKeefy
    @MrKeefy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surely if the hub needs to be bigger and with more spokes for torque purposes as you put it then it has more stopping power.

  • @SaschaRissling
    @SaschaRissling 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If anyone asks me how to choose a bike for triathlon i mostly tell them to look for great deals on used rimbrake bikes. People are selling rockets with all the bells and whistles, Di2, deep dish wheels etc. Also the deals you can get on used rim brake disc wheels are incredible.
    Also rim brake parts will be available for years to come. Come race day and you have a broken rim brake part, you'll easily get a replacement at any bike shop or bike rental. May it be a brake line or a caliper.
    Quick fixing a disc brake? Not so much.
    I was on the fence going back to rim brake actually, selling my disc brake speed max and getting a well maintained argon 18 with all the stuff on it. Decided to stay with my bike though because all our bikes are disc brakes.

  • @gregtitus2467
    @gregtitus2467 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating!

  • @matthewsmith6486
    @matthewsmith6486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent!

  • @robertmcfadyen9156
    @robertmcfadyen9156 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember MTB brake booster arches from the v brake era of the late 1990's . This is another concept aiding performance . I have these .

    • @ofeykalakar1
      @ofeykalakar1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look like C Record from the 80’s