I witnessed a horrible event at a local used game store recently...a husband and wife came in (about 50 yrs old or so) with an in-box (and complete), near mint NES console (the console was still in its original plastic), 7 or 8 boxed games (Mario's 1-3, Faxanadu, etc.), 3 loose games, a boxed NES Advantage, and a boxed NES Game Genie... The store offered them $125 for all of it...the couple, who obviously didn't know what they had, said "Oh wow! That's great!" and took the offer...I stood there in disbelief...the store absolutely ripped them off...
the store did their job, which is to buy items for as little as is acceptable to the seller who walks in.. and sell it for as much as the buyer is willing to pay. they could have walked away but they were happy and the store was happy. what's to complain about? they could have just thrown it in the trash if the store didn't exist and they thought it was junk like happened to so many thousands of copies of games over the last 30 years.
+PotbellyPunch No, the store preyed on the couple's ignorance...the store could've easily offered $200 and made it all back by selling the NES and a boxed game...no doubt about it... I don't go to that store anymore based on how much they ripped those people off...
Sam White Yeah, what I ended up doing was talking to the husband in the couple when he went out to his car to get something else...the store has a "policy" of no deals between customers...I'm always 30 sec. behind in thinking of something to say...since I decided I wasn't going back there, I should've said something, but didn't...bah...
The Nostalgia Factor Thats your choice but the people selling that stuff weren't upset so why should you care? If they had those items out for rummage at $125 would you tell them "oh no, this is worth at least $300 and pay that amount? nope.
"I'll give you $2 Bucks for this game!" - Jay "But sir, it's Earthbound for the Snes." - Seller "Okay, $5 Bucks! If you throw in Ninja Gaiden Trilogy. Final Offer!" - Jay "...." - Seller "...." - Jay "You've got yourself a deal! SOLD!" - Seller
Retail stores are nuts now. They used to be so crazy about pointing the finger at the next one accusing them of using eBay prices. Now they are all well above eBay prices, and often the condition is horrible.
I know this is 4 years old but it seems that most stores use Pricecharting.com now which is a good sign. However, there’s still a few stores that go over those prices.
I have a store called EStarland near me and they’re actually pretty great. Retail or under prices with a huge selection and great conditions. It’s a great experience and I got really lucky living near this store.
Major props, guys, for reiterating that people should treat retail workers with genuine respect... which is sadly very difficult for a lot of people. Everyone who's ever worked in retail will tell you that you catch WAY more flies with honey. Acting entitled, rude, or superior to the employee will do absolutely nothing other than make you into the nightmare customer that the staff will rant about once you're gone.
Depends on the stage in the discussion. It is absolutely true that you shouldn’t harass the average retail employee. Save that pressure for the manager, who will do just about anything you want to get you to stop complaining. If I have an issue that I intend to get angry about (not just something I’m acting entitled about but an actual issue with service or with the product) I normally will tell the employee “look, I have a complaint and I don’t wanna tell at anyone for no reason, so please get the manager for me so you don’t have to deal with this mess you didn’t make...”
I work at a retro game store and I deal with a lot of hagglers and know how many people try to do it so I love that you made this video highlighting how businesses work and that there is most likely a good reason for the price a certain game has. Also I'd like to note many games (retro games especially) change over time. So when someone wants to trade or buy a certain game and then they wait 4 months and are surprised the price has changed, they need to understand the demand for them change. (example: pokemon games, they spiked up when pokemon go had started and now they are slowly dropping back down) From experience, I know some of our customers have gotten deals for games after they've sat for quite a while. Another time its happened is when there is a game collector that comes into the store and buys all kinds of good stuff all the time and is really nice and respectful, and mentions how this one game is a little over his/her budget, then we may work out a bit of a deal, since he/she you know come to the store and spend money there regularly. Overall being nice and respectful definitely helps :]
Love how u break things down and explain things... And having kelsey in your videos sometimes makes it an even more enjoyable experience.. Keep up the great work bro
The first thing I do whenever I walk into a new store. I walk straight to the people in charge and ask them "Are you guys open to offers if I were to buy multiple items?" That saves a ton of time before you even begin searching their shelves that way you know how you plan on buying.
Two tips: 1. You need to be OK with not walking away with something, because physically walking away means not selling their item. 2. Sometimes silence is a good thing. While the other person is trying to get the most money they can for their item, most of the time it is more important to them to sell the item versus not sell it (this scenario usually refers to games that are not as popular, ie NOT Pokemon games). Ask if they can do any better on the price, let them think and give you a number. Cross your arms and stay silent and ponder their offer. If you seem on the fence, but don't say anything, the silence may make them uncomfortable and they may blurt out a lower number to try and win you over. Either way, if you're not comfortable with the price, you can say, "ah shoot, I'm going to have to pass at that price." If they don't say anything, be OK with it and just walk away. It is important to know your pricing and realize that some games you can't always get amazing deals on, but you may be able to save a smaller percentage with composure and a cordial attitude.
Great show in regards to respect and how one should engage as a seller/buyer. I like how Kelsey said, "Nobody owes you a discount....and you can always walk away....." Then MJR mentioned how there's a human being behind every transaction. This concept and social lens is really crucial when establishing yourself as a house hold name in any large or small community (to include social media outlets). That is why I love this show Metal Jesus. Never loose touch with the genuine and authentic characteristic of customer relations. I will also add that "loyalty and networking" are also key factors when considering the long-term relationships with local gaming stores and outlets. In fact, I made more friends over the past seven years by just staying in touch and networking for sellers when possible. In return, I often get first pick and outstanding discounts when it comes to new items that have been traded in. They are in many ways a part of my extended family and I enjoy every conversation about their lives. This was a really good show today guys! Keep up the great work....
If nothing else, you might make a connection that will come in handy later. Or if you come off as approachable, someone else at the same sale just might overhear you and come up to you. People tend to live in fishbowls of our own making so it's easy to forget that there are lots of folks that have no idea that there are people out there interested in their old games.
Damn bro thats rough! But i think every gamer has a story like that, i traded ocarina of time, star wars for n64, mortal kombat for pokemon stadium xD so rough, I also had skullmonkeys in great condition as a kid and sold it with my ps1 and a bunch of other games for like 10 bucks at a yardsale like 17 years ago lol
Definitely! My whole game collection from goodwill, I own CIB games that are worth hundreds of dollars that I managed to get from 2-8 dollars. Have been shopping for games since I was at the age of 12, I am now 18 and still going through at times
One of the reasons I support MJR is because of the Video summary text -- now I know what's going to be covered and I can gauge my time appropriately. Excellent!
@@dutchkel I found it here but its sold out . Replace the (dot) with an actual dot, dont know but some comments dont post if you have a link. merchandisingplaza(dot)us/Nintendo/NINTENDO-Kirby-Clouds-Men-s-Black-TShirt-298695
What I find most impressive about your channel is the comradery you have with your friends who share the same passion as you and are willing to join in your TH-cam channel frequently. This small community you have is really cool and to some extent I really envy. I love my friends and all, but it's weird how none of them share the same passion as I do when it comes to gaming.
Great Advice! I also find that getting to know my local shop owners / staff and letting them know what you like to collect helps. When walking into a local store I have had people pull items out that just came in or haven't been processed yet because they know it is something I will be interested in. This can make working out a mutually beneficial price much easier.
I honestly love you two together. I just binged a bunch of Metal Jesus/Kelsey videos that I've already watched a bunch lol. Can't get enough, you guys are just my kind of gamers I guess.
one thing that i have experienced is when trying to get a good discount, be a frequent buyer from the store. If you give them a lot of business and are a regular they will more than likely give you a loyalty discount on the more expensive games. If you buy $200 a month in their store i'm sure they will eat $20 or even 20% off something to keep you coming back into the store.
I refuse to buy from retail stories. I have saved a ton over my career collection and have never once had an issue finding "this" or "that" game from a private party.
Right. Only a few games I have gotten from shops or stores but they were cheap like 15 or 20$ at most! I will not buy at crazy or over priced games fuck that lol
Very good video Metal! This is one of the most important things a lot of buyers could learn, that part of being respectful. In my region a lot of resellers but also beginning collector's almost act entitled that they should be able to buy t for whatever price they've in mind. In most cases it's always about the popular, very wanted or rare games. So things that actually sell a lot easier. I also think it has to do with all the garage hunting shows on TV and youtube. Some of these are fixed, so items are put into the garage. But people are thinking about the hunting and forgetting that you still have to be respectful. A nice conversation can bring you a lot further than just acting like a hardcore reseller (that makes you feel he or she is the only one that will buy it, which isn't the case of course).
I've had good experience with going to the same store and purchasing quite a few games over a period of time for the sticker price. This allowed me to build a relationship with the people that work there and opened up the opportunity for me to haggle since they know I'm willing to spend money every time i go int here. I don't haggle on everything I buy, but I will try it on some things that are a little out of my price range just to try and make it more affordable or if I'm buying in bulk they will often cut me a deal.
So this tells us one of two things.....either the owner doesn't like YOU and marks prices up to keep you away.....or they have a captive audiences willing to pay those prices, and tough luck for you. Businesses don't last long when customers don't buy.
It's great that Pokemon has gained popularity again because of Pokemon Go, but I can't tell you how much I hate that it's skyrocketed the prices. Even on older titles. As someone who wants to get into collecting handheld titles, Pokemon was at the top of that list and now I won't be able to find or afford copies for quite some time. I am hoping that Nintendo decides to put Gold and Silver on VC for 3DS like they did with Red, Blue and Yellow. I'd love to have access to that. Virtual Console titles are a lot of fun.
Caleb's Crannie I used to own Sapphire as a kid, but must have sold or lost it. I bought Ruby later on to relive my favorite Pokemon generation, but aside from two DS titles (and VC games), I don't really have any others. Just Platinum and SoulSilver. Admittedly, they are very good additions to the Pokemon franchise and I intend to take good care of them. I do wish I had more, though.
821lancevance Kind of ironic that I cannot understand your meaning, either. The Pokemon Go effect? Where people got nostalgia for the series and wanted to go back to it and drove up prices of the old cartridges? Or, did you mean that you don't get why people like Pokemon? Or that you don't get why people get angry about the prices going up or what? I don't follow your meaning.
821lancevance If you don't get it, I see no reason to bother explaining. You simply don't like the series, whereas many people do. That's your problem.
821lancevance Yeah, great. You're so "mature" now. I like SMT and Pokemon. Hell, I was literally restarting Nocturne just last night for kicks. There's nothing inherently better about either series, it's all about what you want out of a game. Anyway, you've proven precisely my point. You don't like the series, so there's nothing to be said to convince you otherwise. Take your toxicity elsewhere.
thanks for all the great tips. they actually helped me land a lot of ps2 games for little over a dollar a piece. always enjoy watching your channel, keep rockin' man.
Without the consumer the supplier would be penniless. While I understand the cost of manufacturing, that doesn't factor into this conversation. Also the theory that there would be no consumers if no services/goods were offered is a logical fallacy.
They both determine the market, the consumer choose what to buy and how popular things become determining the value but the supplier choose how much of things get released and how difficult it is to buy
You two highlighted the best advice for game haggling and it's great advice for living in general: Be nice and treat the person with respect. People who come off entitled are insulting to the vendor. We're all human. It should be a level playing field. Just be nice. Kelsey's story about the trade-in for SNES Harvest Moon was a great example of the value of turnover titles. Expensive games may sit around quite a while waiting for someone who is willing to pay for them. However, as a seller, if you know that you can get the same value in multiple less-expensive games that are in high demand, that trade becomes a win-win. However, refer back to the first rule above: Be nice. Even if you have the best deal, if you treat the seller rudely, they may deny you on principle (and I would support that decision). No one should treat another disrespectfully. There's no justifiable reason for it. Always love your videos, Jason, and your team. Shout out to Reggie and everyone else. You and your friends have helped to reaffirm the social aspect of gaming and what a pillar it is for our generation and those going forward! Peace.
Here's the easiest way that I've found. Go out and quicksave in front of some keep guard, then intimidate him (reload if it doesn't work) and repeat this until you get to level 20 speech. Go out and level up (find a dungeon or two) and put your skill point into haggling. Repeat this until you get really good and then people will practically throw bargains at your face!
Great video. Thanks. A coworker of mine is an avid game collector and a pro haggler I went game hunting with him just to observe his technique. It really.
When it comes to stores and pawn shops I go out of my way to build a rapport with the managers/owners over a long period of time. This includes bringing in good trade-ins and just talking about the hobby and showing a generally interest in them as individuals. And understand that that still does not entitle you to a deal.
My tip: Anyone that has bought or sold through OfferUp or LetGo know that sometimes the other person they are dealing with can be a bit flighty or sometimes take you on a long trip and show up late (or not at all). When messaging people on there to purchase games, I always like to add "I can meet you right now" or "I can meet near you to save you some gas". That usually saves me a few dollars and can get me a deal before the other buyers in my area see the ad.
i found out the best way to haggle is the aziz method where you just act like you really wanted it and that you are horribly distraught that you are 20 dollars short. it works about 85% of the time
Development of relationships with smaller retail stores and becoming a regular definitely helps. You shouldn’t feel obligated to buy every time, but being there and being polite to the employees and other customers fosters goodwill. I also develop good rapport with smaller, locally owned pawnshops (although it’s getting harder and harder to find ones that aren’t part of a franchise, three in my local are closed down when the owners retired), and smaller thrift shops.
I love Kelsey's Kirby shirt!!! -I bought some Dreamcast games a few months ago from a garage sale. I think that's great advice to be respectful and nice. I got Gauntlet, Sonic 2, and Rayman for $9, and all three games were like new--no scratches on all three games. I also the seller organize his games, controllers, and consoles (Hehad some things mixed up).
I've never tried to haggle in a store, but I usually always try and haggle at yard sales. It really depends on the price. I used to be afraid to haggle with someone, but now I almost always do. whenever we have a yard sale and I'm selling my stuff, I always want someone to haggle with me and they never do! lol The worst thing at a garage sale to hear though is "oh, I sold all of my videogames yesterday". But anyways, yeah haggling is in my blood haha Great video you two!
All great points. If you're haggling at a retail shop my number one tip is to always be gracious and positive. If you ask for a discount and they accept show appreciation. If they say 'no' then don't be a baby about it. In either case employees tend to remember kindness (and the assholes). Also, try to get the manager or 'top dog' to cash you out as they're more empowered to actually give discounts.
I think helping and being nice is a big factor. There is a store near my area that i always goto to buy old games, im a regular and they always give me deals. i have saved alot of money by just getting to know them. but one day i stumbled upon 2 huge boxes of boxed toys in my attic, so i googled most of the 30 plus toys and they were worth a bit of money, however knowing the game store also sold toys i decided to take them there. When i brought them in they asked how much do you want for them,, i had no intention of selling the 30 plus toys but wanted to give them to the store for helping me out sooo much with deals and bargins. Needless to say after that they were really appreciative. So i think it also works by building a relationship with the store after awhile because they almost always give me a deal but never or rarely give my friends deals when they go lol. Knowing it works both ways is a big deal, they have helped me so i wanted to help them a bit... ahhh, i love the memories of video game collecting lol....
Another component is to recognize a good deal when it's there. Don't push for an even bigger discount when they're already hooking you up. If you're trying to be a repeat buyer from someone, being reasonable is what will open up to better deals down the road.
Step #1: Don't go up to someone selling rare games and say: "YOU KNOW, THIS IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN YOU ARE SELLING IT FOR!" I want to hit people that spoil deals for collectors with a giant boulder. Like whoever the assholes were that went to that vendor Billy and Jay bought Little Samson off of and told her that she basically gave away plastic gold.
i agree everytime that happens im like dude seriously what the hell wrong with you ruining a good deal dont worry though karma will bite them in the ass worse way possible haha
It is the sellers responsibility to set the prices of their items. I hate when people go telling the sellers that an item is worth more because the sellers may start increasing the prices on everything. Also the person saying that half the time has no idea of what prices should be. I had a couple of places ruined because of people doing talking about the prices being to low.
+Blarg69man it's not about the money but I'm glad you enjoy the channel. anyways, Metal Jesus delivered some good tips, I was just adding my own two cents in regarding my pet peeves when it comes to haggling. it's super difficult when people think they're sitting on plastic gold and it's just super Mario world or zelda, or any other crazy common games.
As a 15-year retail vet (for lack of a better word) who buys merch from (and sells to) the public, a lot of great points made here. Haggling tip: Become a regular, be polite, be friendly but not overly-intrusive with the staff, and don't haggle. That's how you'll get the best deal. Being pushy is the least effective way to haggle.
i keep slacking on the garage sales these little mom and pop shops tend to be expensive or not wanna haggle much but i like to support them. i did recently get 20% off at a shop which was nice
being polite is the most important thing. seller as well as buyers. i often get people messaging me online with low ball offers on reasonably priced games that get very snippy when I don't accept their offers.
One collecting tip I find that works well is to keep a list of not only what games you are looking for, but your friends as well and buy the needed games in bulk. It's a good way to save a bit more money, but also to help yourself as well as other fellow collectors.
I needed this yesterday. I went into a GameStop and bought SAO: lost song for ps vita for 29.99. And supposedly it was "New" but I got the open case that was on the shelf.
Very good point on the pokemon games. I was looking for HeartGold and SoulSilver and saw it spiked in price everywhere! Found SoulSilver at Gamestop for $45. So happy i found it. Couldn't find it anywhere else.I think employees are buying them and selling them for $100+ on Amazon/Ebay. It's crazy!
I have a lot of respect for buyers like you.I'm fine with haggling while buying and selling.The problem lies with people who are disrespectful while trying to buy.If I'm asking $40 for a game that will sell all day for $50 and someone offers me $20,I will shut that shit right down.I will not sell to you even after you come back with more level headed offers.I try to be fair,while keeping profits in mind.Your videos are some of the more realistic pertaining to this genre.Keep up the good work.
I pretty much like to support this one local family owned game store. I never ask for discounts, I always pay their asking price, these guy's are just super nice people but by me shopping there for years, they often offer me discounts without me asking just because I shop there so often. my little girl almost every time we go there, leaves with a free DVD. So being loyal can sometimes work to your advantage.
I have a tip that I'm surprised you guys didn't mention. I go to Goodwill stores a lot for costuming supplies and sometimes find video games that people can't get rid of at garage sales. Several years ago I bought both Secret of Mana, and Breath of Fire loose from a Goodwill store. Both are near mint even though they are loose, both are very much real games, and I managed to get both of them for less than $20 each. I think the reason why I got them for so low is because I bough both of them and a few of other games from the manager of the store after telling her what their value actually was, but also told her I was willing to pay for all of the game she had if she wanted to get rid of them all at once for her listed price rounded down. I think it was more my being completely honest with her about the value of them than it was expressing that I was willing to help her all of them out at once that really helped, but most of the people working at Goodwill, especially the managers, just don't care. They want to get rid of the things they have as fast as they can because they often have a large storage room full of donations that they just need to find room for.
Hit the jackpot at a charity shop a few days ago. They had an untested Neo Geo AES in box without the power supply and AV cables, but with boxed copies of NAM-1975 (uncensored boxart), Samurai Spirits (aka Samurai Shodown), Magician Lord and Blue's Journey. Got the whole thing for 15 pounds (about 20 US dollars)!
Best time I've had haggling is at Expos on the last day like you said. A lot of vendors at PRGE are out of state or even just a good distance and the less they have to pack up at the end of a long day, take home and continue to try to sell the better. I've gotten 25% off quick sellers like Zelda because they know they're going to get more down the road and it's less to take back.
When I'm dealing with someone online I always use their name if it's listed, like were already friends. Then I try to ask 2 maybe 3 questions that I know the answer is yes to so when I ask if they would take X amount it's easier to roll along with another yes( get them saying YES!) and I never low ball. You have to build a small rapore with someone before asking for a discount. Be happy, enthusiastic and polite and it's harder for them to get offended or upset at you just for asking. If they say no and won't budge just walk away and tell them "sorry we couldn't work something out but I really hope you sell it soon for your asking price cause it's a really great game. Have a good day." And sometimes they cave and reach back our to you and will take the low amount cause they're tired of it not selling as soon as they thought.
I don't think I've ever been this early into a new video by such a big TH-cam channel! :O Great tips! I'm tending to go to more 2nd hand stores and looking for old most likely to be preowned games these days.
I recommend not asking for more than a 25% Discount on anything when making an offer. I usually stick to 15-20% less than actual price. If someone for example, is selling a loose copy of Earthbound for 200$ and for some reason it hasn't sold for weeks. You can try asking for a price reduction to 180-175$. You can be ballsy and ask for less, though the chances of your offer getting declined is higher. The discount may be trivial, though it adds up over time.
The strongest negotiating position is being able to walk away and mean it
We're talking about video games, everyone can walk away and "mean it." It won't get them a great deal.
That's also a good tip for gamboling I hear
yea you'll be as richer as you was before
A gun does wonders.
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I witnessed a horrible event at a local used game store recently...a husband and wife came in (about 50 yrs old or so) with an in-box (and complete), near mint NES console (the console was still in its original plastic), 7 or 8 boxed games (Mario's 1-3, Faxanadu, etc.), 3 loose games, a boxed NES Advantage, and a boxed NES Game Genie...
The store offered them $125 for all of it...the couple, who obviously didn't know what they had, said "Oh wow! That's great!" and took the offer...I stood there in disbelief...the store absolutely ripped them off...
the store did their job, which is to buy items for as little as is acceptable to the seller who walks in.. and sell it for as much as the buyer is willing to pay.
they could have walked away but they were happy and the store was happy. what's to complain about?
they could have just thrown it in the trash if the store didn't exist and they thought it was junk like happened to so many thousands of copies of games over the last 30 years.
+PotbellyPunch No, the store preyed on the couple's ignorance...the store could've easily offered $200 and made it all back by selling the NES and a boxed game...no doubt about it...
I don't go to that store anymore based on how much they ripped those people off...
+The Nostalgia Factor You should have offered the couple more.I do this all the time at the exchange... employee's there usually get pissed.lol
Sam White Yeah, what I ended up doing was talking to the husband in the couple when he went out to his car to get something else...the store has a "policy" of no deals between customers...I'm always 30 sec. behind in thinking of something to say...since I decided I wasn't going back there, I should've said something, but didn't...bah...
The Nostalgia Factor Thats your choice but the people selling that stuff weren't upset so why should you care?
If they had those items out for rummage at $125 would you tell them "oh no, this is worth at least $300 and pay that amount? nope.
My best strategy has always been to be respectful. Who knows, you might even make a friend.
"I'll give you $2 Bucks for this game!" - Jay
"But sir, it's Earthbound for the Snes." - Seller
"Okay, $5 Bucks! If you throw in Ninja Gaiden Trilogy. Final Offer!" - Jay
"...." - Seller
"...." - Jay
"You've got yourself a deal! SOLD!" - Seller
Retail stores are nuts now. They used to be so crazy about pointing the finger at the next one accusing them of using eBay prices. Now they are all well above eBay prices, and often the condition is horrible.
I know this is 4 years old but it seems that most stores use Pricecharting.com now which is a good sign. However, there’s still a few stores that go over those prices.
I have a store called EStarland near me and they’re actually pretty great. Retail or under prices with a huge selection and great conditions. It’s a great experience and I got really lucky living near this store.
Major props, guys, for reiterating that people should treat retail workers with genuine respect... which is sadly very difficult for a lot of people. Everyone who's ever worked in retail will tell you that you catch WAY more flies with honey. Acting entitled, rude, or superior to the employee will do absolutely nothing other than make you into the nightmare customer that the staff will rant about once you're gone.
Depends on the stage in the discussion. It is absolutely true that you shouldn’t harass the average retail employee. Save that pressure for the manager, who will do just about anything you want to get you to stop complaining. If I have an issue that I intend to get angry about (not just something I’m acting entitled about but an actual issue with service or with the product) I normally will tell the employee “look, I have a complaint and I don’t wanna tell at anyone for no reason, so please get the manager for me so you don’t have to deal with this mess you didn’t make...”
I work at a retro game store and I deal with a lot of hagglers and know how many people try to do it so I love that you made this video highlighting how businesses work and that there is most likely a good reason for the price a certain game has. Also I'd like to note many games (retro games especially) change over time. So when someone wants to trade or buy a certain game and then they wait 4 months and are surprised the price has changed, they need to understand the demand for them change. (example: pokemon games, they spiked up when pokemon go had started and now they are slowly dropping back down)
From experience, I know some of our customers have gotten deals for games after they've sat for quite a while. Another time its happened is when there is a game collector that comes into the store and buys all kinds of good stuff all the time and is really nice and respectful, and mentions how this one game is a little over his/her budget, then we may work out a bit of a deal, since he/she you know come to the store and spend money there regularly. Overall being nice and respectful definitely helps :]
As another small business person, I've said many times money comes in a handful of ways and goes out a hundred ways
Love how u break things down and explain things... And having kelsey in your videos sometimes makes it an even more enjoyable experience.. Keep up the great work bro
I found waiting till the last hour or two of the last day of a con helps a lot, not just for games.
I love it when you two get together and talk games. Always interesting.
The first thing I do whenever I walk into a new store. I walk straight to the people in charge and ask them "Are you guys open to offers if I were to buy multiple items?" That saves a ton of time before you even begin searching their shelves that way you know how you plan on buying.
Two tips:
1. You need to be OK with not walking away with something, because physically walking away means not selling their item.
2. Sometimes silence is a good thing.
While the other person is trying to get the most money they can for their item, most of the time it is more important to them to sell the item versus not sell it (this scenario usually refers to games that are not as popular, ie NOT Pokemon games). Ask if they can do any better on the price, let them think and give you a number. Cross your arms and stay silent and ponder their offer. If you seem on the fence, but don't say anything, the silence may make them uncomfortable and they may blurt out a lower number to try and win you over. Either way, if you're not comfortable with the price, you can say, "ah shoot, I'm going to have to pass at that price." If they don't say anything, be OK with it and just walk away. It is important to know your pricing and realize that some games you can't always get amazing deals on, but you may be able to save a smaller percentage with composure and a cordial attitude.
Right on! Be respectful. Great tips overall
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Nope, your fellow gang member the A is in the house. =)
How much would Kelsey give you for your SEALED MSG3? $10?
Great show in regards to respect and how one should engage as a seller/buyer. I like how Kelsey said, "Nobody owes you a discount....and you can always walk away....." Then MJR mentioned how there's a human being behind every transaction. This concept and social lens is really crucial when establishing yourself as a house hold name in any large or small community (to include social media outlets). That is why I love this show Metal Jesus. Never loose touch with the genuine and authentic characteristic of customer relations. I will also add that "loyalty and networking" are also key factors when considering the long-term relationships with local gaming stores and outlets. In fact, I made more friends over the past seven years by just staying in touch and networking for sellers when possible. In return, I often get first pick and outstanding discounts when it comes to new items that have been traded in. They are in many ways a part of my extended family and I enjoy every conversation about their lives. This was a really good show today guys! Keep up the great work....
Your eyes in the thumbnail... nightmares.
+Eissari4 hidden gems are like crack, super addicting!
I really dont like the eyes. I know it's trying to draw attention, but it's a lame thumbnail.
Is that photoshop or is Jason's eyes just really that animated?
ronjon83 like the eels album cover
At least her ass isn't the thumbnail and not in the video. I mean it is a bit clickbaity but not that bad
Good common sense points, kindness goes a long way.
If nothing else, you might make a connection that will come in handy later. Or if you come off as approachable, someone else at the same sale just might overhear you and come up to you. People tend to live in fishbowls of our own making so it's easy to forget that there are lots of folks that have no idea that there are people out there interested in their old games.
If I had the game why not my friend. ;^)
i really love kelsey. i just like watching her talk lol idk she's perfect
I've been bummed out for years selling my Earthbound when I was 10 for cheap... Full in box with the guide D:
Damn bro thats rough! But i think every gamer has a story like that, i traded ocarina of time, star wars for n64, mortal kombat for pokemon stadium xD so rough, I also had skullmonkeys in great condition as a kid and sold it with my ps1 and a bunch of other games for like 10 bucks at a yardsale like 17 years ago lol
Yeah a dew years ago I had two SPs one kobalt blue with a front lit screen which I kept because of the color and traded a pink ags 101 for 10 bucks
I sold Smash bro’s on n64, Conkers bad fur day, and my Pikachu n64 with controller for like $120 all together when I was 15 :((
I go to Goodwill stores a lot and its pretty hit or miss -- but it's exciting to see what they have every week!
Smash JT That's so right! Got a fully functional n64 for $20!
JacksonC124 nice score! I actually got an N64 last week at my store too so yeah persistence is key!
Smash JT only problem is finding a good spot to get games... 😂
Definitely! My whole game collection from goodwill, I own CIB games that are worth hundreds of dollars that I managed to get from 2-8 dollars. Have been shopping for games since I was at the age of 12, I am now 18 and still going through at times
One of the reasons I support MJR is because of the Video summary text -- now I know what's going to be covered and I can gauge my time appropriately. Excellent!
That kirby shirt is rad, tracked it down and bought one by the end of the video.
do share where u found it
@@dutchkel I found it here but its sold out . Replace the (dot) with an actual dot, dont know but some comments dont post if you have a link.
merchandisingplaza(dot)us/Nintendo/NINTENDO-Kirby-Clouds-Men-s-Black-TShirt-298695
I just love when you two make vids together. you two have a great on screen Chemistry that compliment each other.
Yea being friendly goes such a long way.
What I find most impressive about your channel is the comradery you have with your friends who share the same passion as you and are willing to join in your TH-cam channel frequently. This small community you have is really cool and to some extent I really envy. I love my friends and all, but it's weird how none of them share the same passion as I do when it comes to gaming.
0:34 Kelsey started to sway backwards like she was about to fall off the box.
And a ladder :D
Great Advice! I also find that getting to know my local shop owners / staff and letting them know what you like to collect helps. When walking into a local store I have had people pull items out that just came in or haven't been processed yet because they know it is something I will be interested in. This can make working out a mutually beneficial price much easier.
Kelsey would look very appropriate with pointy elf ears
Yes!!!
LOL so true
With a horse-tail butt plug.
@@gabrielfigueroa7917 love the turn this is taking
And a pair of Huge DD Knockers
I honestly love you two together. I just binged a bunch of Metal Jesus/Kelsey videos that I've already watched a bunch lol. Can't get enough, you guys are just my kind of gamers I guess.
i love Kelsey.. do a Nintendo 64 buying guide with her (:
one thing that i have experienced is when trying to get a good discount, be a frequent buyer from the store. If you give them a lot of business and are a regular they will more than likely give you a loyalty discount on the more expensive games. If you buy $200 a month in their store i'm sure they will eat $20 or even 20% off something to keep you coming back into the store.
I refuse to buy from retail stories. I have saved a ton over my career collection and have never once had an issue finding "this" or "that" game from a private party.
that part!
Right. Only a few games I have gotten from shops or stores but they were cheap like 15 or 20$ at most! I will not buy at crazy or over priced games fuck that lol
Well you're not going to find what you're looking for at target kid.
@Kris Ever heard of eBay kid?
Very good video Metal! This is one of the most important things a lot of buyers could learn, that part of being respectful. In my region a lot of resellers but also beginning collector's almost act entitled that they should be able to buy t for whatever price they've in mind. In most cases it's always about the popular, very wanted or rare games. So things that actually sell a lot easier. I also think it has to do with all the garage hunting shows on TV and youtube. Some of these are fixed, so items are put into the garage. But people are thinking about the hunting and forgetting that you still have to be respectful. A nice conversation can bring you a lot further than just acting like a hardcore reseller (that makes you feel he or she is the only one that will buy it, which isn't the case of course).
Your anime eyes on the thumbnail of the video made you look like princess Kenny from South Park man haha
I've had good experience with going to the same store and purchasing quite a few games over a period of time for the sticker price. This allowed me to build a relationship with the people that work there and opened up the opportunity for me to haggle since they know I'm willing to spend money every time i go int here. I don't haggle on everything I buy, but I will try it on some things that are a little out of my price range just to try and make it more affordable or if I'm buying in bulk they will often cut me a deal.
I only have one retro game store in my city and its prices are so bad and the guy is super rude!
+Caleb's Crannie that's for bad games Zelda games are like 80 +
Not for me! Snagged Crash Bandicoot And Die Hard trilogy for 7 bucks
+Caz nice
So this tells us one of two things.....either the owner doesn't like YOU and marks prices up to keep you away.....or they have a captive audiences willing to pay those prices, and tough luck for you. Businesses don't last long when customers don't buy.
I guess I'm lucky, my retro game store sells most games for 5.95 - 10.95. The most expensive game they had was earthbound for $156.00
being nice and respectful is EVERYTHING
It's great that Pokemon has gained popularity again because of Pokemon Go, but I can't tell you how much I hate that it's skyrocketed the prices. Even on older titles.
As someone who wants to get into collecting handheld titles, Pokemon was at the top of that list and now I won't be able to find or afford copies for quite some time.
I am hoping that Nintendo decides to put Gold and Silver on VC for 3DS like they did with Red, Blue and Yellow. I'd love to have access to that. Virtual Console titles are a lot of fun.
Caleb's Crannie I used to own Sapphire as a kid, but must have sold or lost it.
I bought Ruby later on to relive my favorite Pokemon generation, but aside from two DS titles (and VC games), I don't really have any others.
Just Platinum and SoulSilver. Admittedly, they are very good additions to the Pokemon franchise and I intend to take good care of them. I do wish I had more, though.
821lancevance Kind of ironic that I cannot understand your meaning, either.
The Pokemon Go effect? Where people got nostalgia for the series and wanted to go back to it and drove up prices of the old cartridges?
Or, did you mean that you don't get why people like Pokemon?
Or that you don't get why people get angry about the prices going up or what? I don't follow your meaning.
821lancevance If you don't get it, I see no reason to bother explaining. You simply don't like the series, whereas many people do.
That's your problem.
821lancevance Yeah, great. You're so "mature" now.
I like SMT and Pokemon. Hell, I was literally restarting Nocturne just last night for kicks. There's nothing inherently better about either series, it's all about what you want out of a game.
Anyway, you've proven precisely my point. You don't like the series, so there's nothing to be said to convince you otherwise.
Take your toxicity elsewhere.
If you are into video games and not just obsessed with Pokémon since Pokémon GO came out then you'll be fine.
That's absolutely right! Be respectful when and if you haggle. The person on the other end of selling doesn't owe you a thing .
Kelsey: "Your attempt to haggle me is admirable, but I cannot be haggled."
always ask if they have any deals or sales going on. it breaks the ice and may exactly what you are looking for.
thanks for all the great tips. they actually helped me land a lot of ps2 games for little over a dollar a piece. always enjoy watching your channel, keep rockin' man.
The consumer determines the market. Just remember that.
The consumer and the supplier both determine the market. It's a dance.
Without the consumer the supplier would be penniless. While I understand the cost of manufacturing, that doesn't factor into this conversation.
Also the theory that there would be no consumers if no services/goods were offered is a logical fallacy.
They both determine the market, the consumer choose what to buy and how popular things become determining the value but the supplier choose how much of things get released and how difficult it is to buy
Nope, ti is Santa Clause. =)
Kind of the quantity of game too. Or else Tony Hawks and Mario 3 etc would be very expensive.
Working at a game store myself, this hits so many important points about retail stores
I can't stop thinking about Kelsey standing on that crate. LOL!!!
Pawn shops can sometimes be a good place to find games. I remember being in a pawn shop once and finding some really good games for like a dollar.
hey Metaljesus have you found out anything about that N64? It was too interesting!
+Darien Sukach update this Friday!
you made my day! I'm honored haha. and thanks I'm excited to hear!
+MetalJesusRocks You're the best!
+MetalJesusRocks psssst, does the disk work yet ?
I'm with you guys on this one! I am looking forward to that video!
You two highlighted the best advice for game haggling and it's great advice for living in general:
Be nice and treat the person with respect.
People who come off entitled are insulting to the vendor.
We're all human.
It should be a level playing field.
Just be nice.
Kelsey's story about the trade-in for SNES Harvest Moon was a great example of the value of turnover titles.
Expensive games may sit around quite a while waiting for someone who is willing to pay for them. However, as a seller, if you know that you can get the same value in multiple less-expensive games that are in high demand, that trade becomes a win-win. However, refer back to the first rule above: Be nice.
Even if you have the best deal, if you treat the seller rudely, they may deny you on principle (and I would support that decision). No one should treat another disrespectfully. There's no justifiable reason for it.
Always love your videos, Jason, and your team. Shout out to Reggie and everyone else.
You and your friends have helped to reaffirm the social aspect of gaming and what a pillar it is for our generation and those going forward!
Peace.
Here's the easiest way that I've found. Go out and quicksave in front of some keep guard, then intimidate him (reload if it doesn't work) and repeat this until you get to level 20 speech. Go out and level up (find a dungeon or two) and put your skill point into haggling. Repeat this until you get really good and then people will practically throw bargains at your face!
Yes always be nice and respectful, having carisma can go a long way.
Love You video going to add it to my Facebook group
I watched this to get some more tips as I've been pretty successful so far. but I've just started collecting
Great vid as always. Does Kels have a website for her store?
Sounds a bit different to owning a store.
Actually Kelsey BOUGHT PinkGorilla Aug 1st... so she is now one of the owners.
+MetalJesusRocks awesome!
+MetalJesusRocks That's pretty cool I wish her luck but Why didn't she open her own store though? Why Pink Guerilla?
+MetalJesusRocks even better. Didn't see it on her FB page but congrats to her. Always respect a person willing to go into business for themselves.
Kelsey always has the coolest shirts. Great tips, thanks guys.
H-Hi there good people
I sincerely hope you are having a nice day
Screw you buddy!
A shy and polite person in a TH-cam comment section? I don't believe my eyes!
Sees nice person in comments.
Pulls up channels.
Sees Donald trump.
+TjCineBoss What does Trump have to do with this?
+TjCineBoss hahaha. And? Fucking loser
Great video. Thanks.
A coworker of mine is an avid game collector and a pro haggler I went game hunting with him just to observe his technique. It really.
+Gary Gealy thanks for the question!!
+MetalJesusRocks sure thing. I get a lot of value from your content great stuff
He is clearly very good at Bargaining, I mean he's managed to get this girl in his basement multiple times now, =-P
and not get belted by his wife too crazy bargaining skills :P haha
Great tips. I'm kind of a collector myself, but I never tried haggling before. I just don't wanna come off as a cheapass.
Guys forgot to mention Pawn Shops...
Pawn shops are such a RIP off
When it comes to stores and pawn shops I go out of my way to build a rapport with the managers/owners over a long period of time. This includes bringing in good trade-ins and just talking about the hobby and showing a generally interest in them as individuals. And understand that that still does not entitle you to a deal.
Kelsey is cute af T.T
Yeah she is 0_o
haha quickest i've found a creepy comment about kelsey. i was hoping to get further down the list, damn! thanks!
+Andy Abell we are not being creepy she is a cute little girl. Not gonna fap... or anything.
Speak for yourself.
yes she is, to the point that she can easily sell a copy of atari's ET and superman 64 to a xbox 360 call of duty player lol
My tip: Anyone that has bought or sold through OfferUp or LetGo know that sometimes the other person they are dealing with can be a bit flighty or sometimes take you on a long trip and show up late (or not at all). When messaging people on there to purchase games, I always like to add "I can meet you right now" or "I can meet near you to save you some gas". That usually saves me a few dollars and can get me a deal before the other buyers in my area see the ad.
i found out the best way to haggle is the aziz method where you just act like you really wanted it and that you are horribly distraught that you are 20 dollars short. it works about 85% of the time
awesomessdan Works 0% of the time on retailers. I cut off negotiations the second someone tries pulling that.
Development of relationships with smaller retail stores and becoming a regular definitely helps. You shouldn’t feel obligated to buy every time, but being there and being polite to the employees and other customers fosters goodwill. I also develop good rapport with smaller, locally owned pawnshops (although it’s getting harder and harder to find ones that aren’t part of a franchise, three in my local are closed down when the owners retired), and smaller thrift shops.
Kelsey looks like Sheldon Cooper sis :)
I find your channel completely unique, like its quality would be good enough for it's own show tbh. Keep up the good work guys.
why does kelsey not start her own channel???
+Douglas Guelich because she's busy running two retro stores in Seattle
true, just thought it would be cool. maybe someday.
Because no porn on TH-cam and that's how she would get my money at least.
She actually started her own channel now recently!!!
Kylescorpion what's it called
I could listen to these 2 talk about games for days.
I don't think I would do very well haggling with Kelsey. :-)
I love Kelsey's Kirby shirt!!!
-I bought some Dreamcast games a few months ago from a garage sale. I think that's great advice to be respectful and nice. I got Gauntlet, Sonic 2, and Rayman for $9, and all three games were like new--no scratches on all three games. I also the seller organize his games, controllers, and consoles (Hehad some things mixed up).
I imagine trying to negotiate with Kels would be like.Her: its $15me: *lost in her eyes* ill give you $25 for it!!Her: okme: *runs away awkwardly*
I've never tried to haggle in a store, but I usually always try and haggle at yard sales. It really depends on the price. I used to be afraid to haggle with someone, but now I almost always do.
whenever we have a yard sale and I'm selling my stuff, I always want someone to haggle with me and they never do! lol
The worst thing at a garage sale to hear though is "oh, I sold all of my videogames yesterday". But anyways, yeah haggling is in my blood haha Great video you two!
I have a crush on Kelsey
WHAT?! UNHEARD OF
Ichabaud Craine lol it kind of wore off
All great points. If you're haggling at a retail shop my number one tip is to always be gracious and positive. If you ask for a discount and they accept show appreciation. If they say 'no' then don't be a baby about it. In either case employees tend to remember kindness (and the assholes). Also, try to get the manager or 'top dog' to cash you out as they're more empowered to actually give discounts.
step 1 be a chick into video game collecting
step 2 collect
Lol sorta true
I think helping and being nice is a big factor. There is a store near my area that i always goto to buy old games, im a regular and they always give me deals. i have saved alot of money by just getting to know them. but one day i stumbled upon 2 huge boxes of boxed toys in my attic, so i googled most of the 30 plus toys and they were worth a bit of money, however knowing the game store also sold toys i decided to take them there. When i brought them in they asked how much do you want for them,, i had no intention of selling the 30 plus toys but wanted to give them to the store for helping me out sooo much with deals and bargins. Needless to say after that they were really appreciative. So i think it also works by building a relationship with the store after awhile because they almost always give me a deal but never or rarely give my friends deals when they go lol. Knowing it works both ways is a big deal, they have helped me so i wanted to help them a bit... ahhh, i love the memories of video game collecting lol....
Why do people type one WORD in their question in all caps?
+JayPG isn't it obvious? It's for emphasis ...because you can't use bold or italics in a text only headline....
MetalJesusRocks Just seems superfluous.
Well it's NOT.
Feyrom REALLY?!?! *asteriks*
Feyrom *Mind blown*
Another component is to recognize a good deal when it's there. Don't push for an even bigger discount when they're already hooking you up. If you're trying to be a repeat buyer from someone, being reasonable is what will open up to better deals down the road.
Step #1: Don't go up to someone selling rare games and say: "YOU KNOW, THIS IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN YOU ARE SELLING IT FOR!" I want to hit people that spoil deals for collectors with a giant boulder. Like whoever the assholes were that went to that vendor Billy and Jay bought Little Samson off of and told her that she basically gave away plastic gold.
i agree everytime that happens im like dude seriously what the hell wrong with you ruining a good deal dont worry though karma will bite them in the ass worse way possible haha
It is the sellers responsibility to set the prices of their items. I hate when people go telling the sellers that an item is worth more because the sellers may start increasing the prices on everything. Also the person saying that half the time has no idea of what prices should be. I had a couple of places ruined because of people doing talking about the prices being to low.
+Blarg69man well I try not to go to my fellow TH-camr's pages and promote my stuff but thank you for the kind comments, man!
+Blarg69man it's not about the money but I'm glad you enjoy the channel. anyways, Metal Jesus delivered some good tips, I was just adding my own two cents in regarding my pet peeves when it comes to haggling. it's super difficult when people think they're sitting on plastic gold and it's just super Mario world or zelda, or any other crazy common games.
@Dongled Which episode was this? for the Billy and jay
As a 15-year retail vet (for lack of a better word) who buys merch from (and sells to) the public, a lot of great points made here.
Haggling tip: Become a regular, be polite, be friendly but not overly-intrusive with the staff, and don't haggle. That's how you'll get the best deal. Being pushy is the least effective way to haggle.
i want to haggle with kelsey 😜🤘🏼
Houstone584 i wonder whast fgor? Lmao
i keep slacking on the garage sales these little mom and pop shops tend to be expensive or not wanna haggle much but i like to support them. i did recently get 20% off at a shop which was nice
kelsey is hot
Word.
She’s a 6 at best mate.
You need those glasses my man
Burak Crystal bet you're a 3 yourself.
imo she's a 7.5
Make friends with them. Seriously, this helps so much. Crack a joke, make them smile and they'll remember you.
Why this girl look like Ted Cruz
Why can't you spell or write? Good attempt
being polite is the most important thing. seller as well as buyers. i often get people messaging me online with low ball offers on reasonably priced games that get very snippy when I don't accept their offers.
One collecting tip I find that works well is to keep a list of not only what games you are looking for, but your friends as well and buy the needed games in bulk. It's a good way to save a bit more money, but also to help yourself as well as other fellow collectors.
Been watching several videos. You guys are true gamers... Playing even the most obscure titles and collecting them!
ive had the most success with just being respectful and engaging as well
I needed this yesterday. I went into a GameStop and bought SAO: lost song for ps vita for 29.99. And supposedly it was "New" but I got the open case that was on the shelf.
Very good point on the pokemon games. I was looking for HeartGold and SoulSilver and saw it spiked in price everywhere! Found SoulSilver at Gamestop for $45. So happy i found it. Couldn't find it anywhere else.I think employees are buying them and selling them for $100+ on Amazon/Ebay. It's crazy!
I have a lot of respect for buyers like you.I'm fine with haggling while buying and selling.The problem lies with people who are disrespectful while trying to buy.If I'm asking $40 for a game that will sell all day for $50 and someone offers me $20,I will shut that shit right down.I will not sell to you even after you come back with more level headed offers.I try to be fair,while keeping profits in mind.Your videos are some of the more realistic pertaining to this genre.Keep up the good work.
I pretty much like to support this one local family owned game store. I never ask for discounts, I always pay their asking price, these guy's are just super nice people but by me shopping there for years, they often offer me discounts without me asking just because I shop there so often. my little girl almost every time we go there, leaves with a free DVD. So being loyal can sometimes work to your advantage.
I have a tip that I'm surprised you guys didn't mention. I go to Goodwill stores a lot for costuming supplies and sometimes find video games that people can't get rid of at garage sales. Several years ago I bought both Secret of Mana, and Breath of Fire loose from a Goodwill store. Both are near mint even though they are loose, both are very much real games, and I managed to get both of them for less than $20 each. I think the reason why I got them for so low is because I bough both of them and a few of other games from the manager of the store after telling her what their value actually was, but also told her I was willing to pay for all of the game she had if she wanted to get rid of them all at once for her listed price rounded down. I think it was more my being completely honest with her about the value of them than it was expressing that I was willing to help her all of them out at once that really helped, but most of the people working at Goodwill, especially the managers, just don't care. They want to get rid of the things they have as fast as they can because they often have a large storage room full of donations that they just need to find room for.
I always found being a repeat customer at a mom and pop game store to work in my advantage especially if I'm buying with cash.
Hit the jackpot at a charity shop a few days ago. They had an untested Neo Geo AES in box without the power supply and AV cables, but with boxed copies of NAM-1975 (uncensored boxart), Samurai Spirits (aka Samurai Shodown), Magician Lord and Blue's Journey. Got the whole thing for 15 pounds (about 20 US dollars)!
Best time I've had haggling is at Expos on the last day like you said. A lot of vendors at PRGE are out of state or even just a good distance and the less they have to pack up at the end of a long day, take home and continue to try to sell the better. I've gotten 25% off quick sellers like Zelda because they know they're going to get more down the road and it's less to take back.
When I'm dealing with someone online I always use their name if it's listed, like were already friends. Then I try to ask 2 maybe 3 questions that I know the answer is yes to so when I ask if they would take X amount it's easier to roll along with another yes( get them saying YES!) and I never low ball. You have to build a small rapore with someone before asking for a discount. Be happy, enthusiastic and polite and it's harder for them to get offended or upset at you just for asking. If they say no and won't budge just walk away and tell them "sorry we couldn't work something out but I really hope you sell it soon for your asking price cause it's a really great game. Have a good day." And sometimes they cave and reach back our to you and will take the low amount cause they're tired of it not selling as soon as they thought.
Like most people they also have plans for the money they're hoping to collect and want to get moving on them.
I see Kelsey in the thumbnail, i click. Its that simple.
I don't think I've ever been this early into a new video by such a big TH-cam channel! :O Great tips! I'm tending to go to more 2nd hand stores and looking for old most likely to be preowned games these days.
I recommend not asking for more than a 25% Discount on anything when making an offer. I usually stick to 15-20% less than actual price. If someone for example, is selling a loose copy of Earthbound for 200$ and for some reason it hasn't sold for weeks. You can try asking for a price reduction to 180-175$. You can be ballsy and ask for less, though the chances of your offer getting declined is higher.
The discount may be trivial, though it adds up over time.