I know I'm commenting on a 5-month-old video, but regarding the marriage conversation, while I think a huge part of the desire for many people comes from societal norms and it being seen as the "ultimate commitment", one of the biggest pieces for me (and many others) is the legal benefits of being married. Being able to make decisions for my partner if she were to become sick/incapacitated, being able to take family or spousal leave from work if something were to happen, having an easier time becoming parents when we decide to do that, and a host of rights that only a spouse has when a person dies, are all super important to me personally. Not to mention all the financial benefits you can get from marriage like taxes, health insurance, IRA, social security, etc. I recently read the cases that lead to the Obergefell v Hodges supreme court decision for gay marriage, and it's heartbreaking because many of them had to do with a partner that was ill or had already died. That's why it's extra terrifying that Roe V Wade just got overturned and Obergefell could be re-examined next, because it's not just about being able to fit with societal norms, it's about having equal access to all those same legal benefits and rights that a marriage offers. (Sorry for the rant! Just currently engaged and a tad terrified about what the US will do before we make it to our wedding day..)
when I have conversations with my conservative mom about gay people getting married my mom often says “you don’t need marriage to prove you love someone.” And yes I agree with that but some people want to be married and I will definitely bring this to her attention next time we talk about it. Ty
i feel the breast reduction part so much. i feel the exact same way - i’m a DD cup and would love to be a B cup. i live in the UK and because my breasts cause me discomfort and distress i could be eligible to get the surgery for free on the NHS and if i can do that i’d be eternally grateful. it’s literally one of the only things i’m insecure abt. good luck to anyone who’s going thru the same thing
@@matteaing You two should consider yourselves lucky. I can't even remember when the last time I talked to my siblings or when will I talked to them again.
I think the principle of marriage is different for everyone. Some believe it’s oppressive, and others believe it’s the ultimate commitment, especially inside of religion. I photograph weddings and it’s really interesting to see how different cultures & couples approach marriage & what it means for them. I specialise in elopements now because I believe it’s more of a personal experience that isn’t influenced by family members or societal “norms”.
im not much of a talker, i more of a listener so this felt so natural. i forgot i was watching a video and next thing i knew it was over. y'all hit great topics and were so respectful when letting each other talk and sharing your opinion and different points of view.
about to drive back to school and i’m gonna put this on to listen to like a podcast :) you two have quickly become some of my favorite content creators and i love the bond you have, keep doing you and take good care of yourself ☺️♥️
my take on 33:51, i really wish coming out wasn’t a thing but it really is. many parents even sometimes when they’ll eventually support you, take sometime to process the information mostly because it’s not that societal norm, so when you suddenly spring someone on them, you’ve kind of added the person to that situation. The tension and everything, it might end up affecting the parents’ first impression of your person. Anyway, great video guys, just subscribed, can’t wait for more content ✨
I really appreciate you sharing videos like this. I'm not able to talk to anyone about life or these types of things. So to hear two others talk about it helps me A LOT with inner turmoil. I don't have friends and I don't have family, because I married very young. I had a bad upbringing and my mothers belief was that a women needs a man to survive. She urged me to get married so that I can have a life, but 10 years down the line, a lot of self hate, states away from any family members, hardly any friends and all of them being only online. I don't hate the man I married, but there is no passion or even companionship, I never NOT feel alone. We got married young (at 18) and now we both are suffering in the marriage but it is all I know. Because i was raised and grew up believing that women can't do things on their own. Now at 30 years old its all I know.., everything in his name. Whenever I phone and issue its always "Can we speak to your husband?" "Is your husband home?". It feels like I don't exist, and my only purpose is to accent his life. I wish I knew growing up that LOVE was an option...a thing even.., and that you can LOVE anyone, not just opposite genders.
What you were saying about gender expression and how you feel like you’ve gone back to what you were like as a child is so interesting. It is so relatable and I’ve not been able to put it into words like that! So cool to see that someone has gone through that kind of process as well
Girl I’m gender-fluid myself and related sooooo much to that part! Anytime I feel like my truest self,I feel just like I did when I was 4/5/6 years old. She hit it spot on lmao and her reasoning for WHY that is is also right
For the marriage conversation, it has never been about how other people view my relationship with someone. But it's this ultimate act of romance; it doesn't get more romantic than this act of showing someone just how much they mean to you and that you want them to be part of your life forever.
I am truly loving this. Thank you so much for this. I was having a crappy day and this made me laugh, smile, and think. The two of you could rock a podcast. This was truly wonderful. The two of you together are like Jazz musicians rifting. Mattea more and more you remind me of a young Lucile Ball. You are funny as hell and brilliantly smart. Remember both Star Trek and Mission Impossible would never have made it to television without Lucy believing in them and fighting for them. I'd like to see Mattea make more TH-cam videos. If the title wasn't already taken the two of you could go on the road as "Sister Act".
I found you through WHGS and I've been going through watching videos. So, comment on an old video here BUT I have to say I LOVE what you said about exploring the way you present yourself. I have had the exact same thought-I feel like I've found my way back to how I was as a little kid before all the societal bs really took hold. In elementary school I hated clothes shopping because i didnt like anything "girly" or flashy in that way. I distinctly remember trying to tell my mom what I wanted, and I said "I just like plain things." Anyway, it feels great to peel away all those expectations and find the way I truly want to present myself. The inner child is happy.
I was cooking while listening to this, and it was one of the most entertaining long format talks I've listened to in a long time. I enjoy the topics and both of ur thoughts and opinions!! Hope u guys do this more x
You two are so adorable and inspiring at the same time. I've been going through some stuffs lately and watching you in tiktok and youtube just makes my day so much better.❤️
wow, I really understand the question about "why would anyone get married", besides the taxes/money together/ potential issues when having a kid if the other half is not as ok as you thought. I think even on the very happy path of a relationship, when both parts are doing their best and want to make the realtionship work, it is not easy nor natural to keep it working for more than a few years, without effort. Basically, with or without marriage, after a few years, love transforms in whatever you put in: shit, boredom, lack of respect (in a bad case) or possibly some more chill, sustainable, understandable kind of live, that doesn't require you to be in top shape. For me, when I got married (which is of course reversible), for me it represented a vow "I'm flawed, you are too, be all are. Relationships are complicated and we will not always make each other happy, but we will do our best". You can say the same without the marriage itself, but for me it made it in a way more official/sacred kind of official. If for you this doesn't represent anythig, then maybe just saying it is enough/the same. You might ask yourself, if it requires so much effort to keep a life long relationship alive, then why do it. My answer is that you don't do it for quite some years, and after a while you get soooooo bored of always breaking up and starting other relationship, which you know from the start that will last a few years, you start seeing a pattern, and no progress in your life. So trying something lifelong starts making sense
Holy shit, my brother said somewhat the same thing about masculinity and femininity being like Yin and Yang but in a way to say that men and women are the way it’s supposed to be and homosexuality is not natural (he is not “against” gay people) I love that you mak took this view of Yin and Yang and said it MUCH better than my brother. This whole conversation is my confused brain getting a clear view of what I think of things.
This vids are awesome, thank you for making it. All the questions and topics you guys talked about were so interesting and made me think about them like I've never did before.
On marriage, my wife and I legally married each other in September of 2020, we only signed the paper. In December of that year we held our spiritual wedding with just the two of us in cabins in the mountains. We did a Cherokee sand ceremony and made our rings from the sand, the rings mean everything to us and was infinitely more important to us compared to the legal ceremony. I will never forget the days we spent together and I cherish our rings.
This is the first video I watched of you....But when Mattea said that she believed that she could convince herself to fall in love with anyone....I FELT THAT!! Maybe its cz I've been single my whole life, but I feel like that too....our brains aren't flawless. And honestly, when seeing some relationships, like genuinely good people "being in love with" horrible terrible people with bad personalities, I just couldn't see how it's not a choice anyway. I LOVE love...the forever kind lol....but Im also terrified of it.
13:36 that is making me have a crisis because when I was a kid I was very girly. I wore dresses and did my nails and loved pink but I got dirty and loved being outside and wearing shorts. But now I’m in that phase (teenage) where I’m “expressing myself.” But I don’t know if I’m finding out more about myself or if I’m converting to society’s idea of gay, teenage, depressed people. Now I’m very introverted, I cover my legs cause of how society taught me, I dress masculine, I act masc, I liked “boy stuff.” Very not like my kid self. idk if I’m going through a teen phase, figuring myself out, or lying. Idk sorry for the rant
It was really interesting to hear about both of your experiences with gender expression! The question from the trans person about being a masc girl took me a little off guard because as a trans person myself I honestly feel the complete opposite about that--I'm transitioning to male precisely so I can feel confident presenting more femininely than I used to. It's fascinating to hear about so many different perspectives.
Mattea is so on point for so many things! Her thoughts on marriage (and your thoughts/agreement Mak) and "why involve the govt??" are so good Both of you have such wisdom, I wish I had a wise sibling as close to me as you two are with each other.
I think I have very things in common with you makaela, like your childhood history and everything, interesting… I’m also gay so haha, it feels so good hearing how I think about things In someone else. You both are such an inspiration, keep going girls 💪🏻❤️
you guys should start a podcast omg. I just started listening and I love it so much, I love how you can have such deep convos with your sister. This is me with my brother (he's the only sibling I can talk to like this) And we have spoken about my fears with marriage, in the end we figured out that the reason I don't wanna get married is cause I know (being gay) the woman I'll marry deserves loving in laws, deserves family fun time and a relationship with my family. Which I can't give cause I know im never coming out to the rest of my family and it hurts to realise that. This video is really awesome omg.
Makingemi, when you have serious conversation with your sister. She presents herself as a very sophisticated person. Making herself extremely attractive.
I need more of these holy shi I watched every second of this. I loved this. Literally loved this. Idc if it’s a podcast either bc wow. Makes me miss talking to My sister because we have the same energy when talking as you guys 😭💜💜
Hey, glad you friend-siblings are having these philosophical conversations about social and personal perspectives on autonomy, marriage, and gender. ( Phyllis A. Lyon and Del Martin, two founders of the Daughters of Bilitis, were already together for about 50 years before being the politically symbolic first people to be legally married in San Francisco...Even so, that showed marriage is not required to prove commitment. Relationship style and definitions are very personal.)
First off, apologies for only watching this now, hectic week! But my god when I say this video is 💯! Love you both! Thank you both for your openness & authenticity❤️.. Mattea that convo half way through is Literally me. For real am in the same boat & am considering getting the work done as soon as possible as it's been a constant nuisance for years! Do what makes you happy & more comfortable in your skin! 💕
I know this is months old but for anyone reading this considering a breast reduction surgery: I thought i would do the same, I had a 30GG chest for a while that I hated for many reasons. Definitely big chest genetics, my aunt got a reduction and loved it, it was great for her rock climbing and overall comfort. My chest actually sort of shrunk on it's own right after I turned 20, it wasn't weight loss bc I was always very active but a stress hormone thing. Now I can wear a 30C or D, regular sports bras actually fit and work now. So I would advocate for whatever a person thinks will be best for your body, and to know that there's always hope that you will feel more comfortable in your body.
i think if you were to have a relationship where you're essentially married but don't formalise it, it would be defined differently from people who are dating casually or perhaps haven't been together for long. you wouldn't introduce your life partner as 'just someone you're seeing', for example. labels are definitely important, but unlike definitions, i think they're more important for personal purposes than for other people/ society. essentially, the process/ structure of marriage as a patriarchal form of oppression will never disappear or lose power unless someone starts somewhere with strong definitions of what their relationship is to them, without external pressure influencing them to conform, don't you think?
I’ve always felt that I wanted to get married but then I thought…do I really really want to or is it just what society made me think I should do. Also I agree, more people need to get on board with not getting offended when people just don’t know things. We can’t change or open people’s thinking if we don’t share knowledge
Really good video to just sit and listen to!! Super interesting topics and takes all around. I love having these types of conversations with close friends and my girlfriend. (Btw I’m finally with her in person now, we did it.) -Henrik
Marriage is made of more than love and that passion fase (2/3 years) so it is emotion but it is also an active choice. I believe in living together first too, for a good while. At your age Mak and even older I felt the same way as you, but later on we sometimes learn that it's more than that. We need to be on board with the person when it comes to medium and long term goals, if you want children or not (adopted or not, if not who will carry it), how many, how to raise and educate them, how to feed them (one of you may be a vegan or something else), what things you both need to take to therapy regarding yourselves, house chores (although as lesbians we do have a diferent Dynamics then that of heterossexual couples but still), like, everything. Those things are part of a long term relationship. Plus, a lot of abusive relationships would be prevented too if people where more assertive in that way. :) But, that being said, you are wonderful and you are doing a great job on yourself. You guys are great. Loved this vlog.
I love makingemi and can't count how many tyms have watched her coming out video tym to tyms.... coming out should not be a thing...but in Africa and specially in Kenya it's hard to come out since it's not allowed...but we still do exist date and live together
idk but my nana and papa were crazy for eachother and loved one another dearly. married or not they would act the same loving way with eachother because they were truly and adorably in love.
the main advantages to marriage are around births and deaths. Long term romantic partners who aren't married can often have difficulty visiting their dying partners in hospital if the family don't want them to, whereas a married spouse has the right to visit. Likewise, when it comes to births and children things can be more complicated for unmarried partners than if the people are married for pretty much everything else it makes very little difference, if any (assuming you don't need constitutional protections against having to give incriminating evidence against your spouse) idk, I thought about this with my spouse a few years ago (we got married last year). We very much viewed the wedding as an excuse to throw a big party with our friends and family celebrating our love, with the legal side being entirely secondary (in fact nothing legal, or religious actually happened at the "wedding", we had a vague ceremony thing, but it had no official power whatsoever, the legal stuff was done a couple of weeks earlier with only our parents and my spouse's brother there, and because my spouse is Jewish and I'm a non-Jewish atheist we can't have a religious marriage). We're not planning to have kids and whilst we're certainly hoping not to have to deal with it any time soon, one of us could end up in a hospital with something life-threatening at any time, and so having that safety net of legal recognition is really valuable
3:40 Marriage in general had economical purposes in the past. Now things has changed, women have more opportunities to follow their career and be independent. That's why Marriage now it's more of a personal choice than something you obligated to do. I 100% agree with Mattea ofc you have the right to stay with your partner without being engaged. It's clearly personal choice and something between the couple to decide!
Sounds weird, but I can see my sister and me in you. Like how you talk with each other/how you act around each other and stuff. Of course I only know you on camera, but yall still make me miss my sis. And in may I can drive a car and I wanna go on a road trip with my sister so bad after watching this, because I wanna talk with her like you do haha omg
Wishing you a healthy and happy 2022 and enjoyed this vlog a lot, and agree with all your opinions and your conversation with each other is amazing. Clothing doesn’t classify your sexuality and your marriage opinions I do agree with also very interesting perspective and thank you so much for this vlog. Looking forward to seeing your videos this year.
I’m literally a stereotype, a TROPE, when it comes to flirting. It’s so embarrassing, I always feel so stupid because I know other people notice and judge me it’s just awful. I try to stop…but it just happens…
I’ve recently realizing I’m gay and the thought of feeling like I need to tell people makes me want to rip my hair out. The one friend I told I told her I just want to find someone and get married or be in a relationship with them and my “coming out” would just be introducing her as my girlfriend/wife but idk if it’s that easy!
In Jungian psychology that balance between the masculine and feminine is called the contrasexual. That is what Jung believed too. That it had less to do with sexuality. And also that we have to strike a balance within ourselves too. If your interested look up the anima and animus.
Different Country doesn’t always mean different culture in a noticeable way. English speaking countries, pretty similar vibe. Even Western Europe, begause of all the movement to English speaking countries… pretty chill dating those areas. From experience.
This is a pretty raw video, I didn't want to do much with it so just pretend like you're in the car with us ;) What video length do you guys prefer?
i love the longer videos!
LONGGGGGG… please 😀
Longer videos
@@elliebrown1393 that’s what she said 😏
long!!!!
I know I'm commenting on a 5-month-old video, but regarding the marriage conversation, while I think a huge part of the desire for many people comes from societal norms and it being seen as the "ultimate commitment", one of the biggest pieces for me (and many others) is the legal benefits of being married. Being able to make decisions for my partner if she were to become sick/incapacitated, being able to take family or spousal leave from work if something were to happen, having an easier time becoming parents when we decide to do that, and a host of rights that only a spouse has when a person dies, are all super important to me personally. Not to mention all the financial benefits you can get from marriage like taxes, health insurance, IRA, social security, etc. I recently read the cases that lead to the Obergefell v Hodges supreme court decision for gay marriage, and it's heartbreaking because many of them had to do with a partner that was ill or had already died. That's why it's extra terrifying that Roe V Wade just got overturned and Obergefell could be re-examined next, because it's not just about being able to fit with societal norms, it's about having equal access to all those same legal benefits and rights that a marriage offers. (Sorry for the rant! Just currently engaged and a tad terrified about what the US will do before we make it to our wedding day..)
when I have conversations with my conservative mom about gay people getting married my mom often says “you don’t need marriage to prove you love someone.” And yes I agree with that but some people want to be married and I will definitely bring this to her attention next time we talk about it. Ty
i feel the breast reduction part so much. i feel the exact same way - i’m a DD cup and would love to be a B cup. i live in the UK and because my breasts cause me discomfort and distress i could be eligible to get the surgery for free on the NHS and if i can do that i’d be eternally grateful. it’s literally one of the only things i’m insecure abt. good luck to anyone who’s going thru the same thing
My sister and I have never had this kind of honest, raw discussion.. have you two always been like this?
Yes we have always had discussions like this, it’s one of our favorite things to do
@@matteaing You two should consider yourselves lucky. I can't even remember when the last time I talked to my siblings or when will I talked to them again.
@@matteaing you guys are very lucky me and my brother are so toxic and he doesn’t understand how to be a brother
@@ChaseTerrier damn same
I think the principle of marriage is different for everyone. Some believe it’s oppressive, and others believe it’s the ultimate commitment, especially inside of religion. I photograph weddings and it’s really interesting to see how different cultures & couples approach marriage & what it means for them.
I specialise in elopements now because I believe it’s more of a personal experience that isn’t influenced by family members or societal “norms”.
Y’all are genually so inspiring
thank you so much, you are very sweet, sending you love
im not much of a talker, i more of a listener so this felt so natural. i forgot i was watching a video and next thing i knew it was over. y'all hit great topics and were so respectful when letting each other talk and sharing your opinion and different points of view.
Stay tuned for the podcast
Cannot Wait!!!!
about to drive back to school and i’m gonna put this on to listen to like a podcast :) you two have quickly become some of my favorite content creators and i love the bond you have, keep doing you and take good care of yourself ☺️♥️
i genuinely love mattea, especially when she checked with mak if she was allowed to say butch :)) my favourite ally tbh
my take on 33:51, i really wish coming out wasn’t a thing but it really is. many parents even sometimes when they’ll eventually support you, take sometime to process the information mostly because it’s not that societal norm, so when you suddenly spring someone on them, you’ve kind of added the person to that situation. The tension and everything, it might end up affecting the parents’ first impression of your person.
Anyway, great video guys, just subscribed, can’t wait for more content ✨
I really appreciate you sharing videos like this. I'm not able to talk to anyone about life or these types of things. So to hear two others talk about it helps me A LOT with inner turmoil. I don't have friends and I don't have family, because I married very young. I had a bad upbringing and my mothers belief was that a women needs a man to survive. She urged me to get married so that I can have a life, but 10 years down the line, a lot of self hate, states away from any family members, hardly any friends and all of them being only online. I don't hate the man I married, but there is no passion or even companionship, I never NOT feel alone. We got married young (at 18) and now we both are suffering in the marriage but it is all I know. Because i was raised and grew up believing that women can't do things on their own. Now at 30 years old its all I know.., everything in his name. Whenever I phone and issue its always "Can we speak to your husband?" "Is your husband home?". It feels like I don't exist, and my only purpose is to accent his life. I wish I knew growing up that LOVE was an option...a thing even.., and that you can LOVE anyone, not just opposite genders.
What you were saying about gender expression and how you feel like you’ve gone back to what you were like as a child is so interesting. It is so relatable and I’ve not been able to put it into words like that! So cool to see that someone has gone through that kind of process as well
Girl I’m gender-fluid myself and related sooooo much to that part! Anytime I feel like my truest self,I feel just like I did when I was 4/5/6 years old. She hit it spot on lmao and her reasoning for WHY that is is also right
12:09 holy shit, I'm so glad Mak brought this up. She put exactly how I've been feeling into words!
y'all should make a podcast, i would go on a walk to listen to it like how I am listening this video
For the marriage conversation, it has never been about how other people view my relationship with someone. But it's this ultimate act of romance; it doesn't get more romantic than this act of showing someone just how much they mean to you and that you want them to be part of your life forever.
I am truly loving this. Thank you so much for this. I was having a crappy day and this made me laugh, smile, and think. The two of you could rock a podcast. This was truly wonderful. The two of you together are like Jazz musicians rifting. Mattea more and more you remind me of a young Lucile Ball. You are funny as hell and brilliantly smart. Remember both Star Trek and Mission Impossible would never have made it to television without Lucy believing in them and fighting for them. I'd like to see Mattea make more TH-cam videos. If the title wasn't already taken the two of you could go on the road as "Sister Act".
I hope your day gets better!! And I am working on more TH-cam content :)
You two have such a beautiful sibling chemistry! I really enjoyed watching. Can’t wait for this podcast 😌
Honestly this video was very comforting you guys are such an inspiration
I found you through WHGS and I've been going through watching videos. So, comment on an old video here BUT I have to say I LOVE what you said about exploring the way you present yourself. I have had the exact same thought-I feel like I've found my way back to how I was as a little kid before all the societal bs really took hold. In elementary school I hated clothes shopping because i didnt like anything "girly" or flashy in that way. I distinctly remember trying to tell my mom what I wanted, and I said "I just like plain things." Anyway, it feels great to peel away all those expectations and find the way I truly want to present myself. The inner child is happy.
I was cooking while listening to this, and it was one of the most entertaining long format talks I've listened to in a long time. I enjoy the topics and both of ur thoughts and opinions!! Hope u guys do this more x
I love how much they look alike and they vibe is just chill
I finally got to finish watching the video. One of the things I noticed was how perfect yours and Mattea’s hair stayed like PERFECTION!!! ❤️
honestly y'all are so real with ur followers you communicate and interact with ur followers and honestly my fav content creators
Listening to this as a podcast on my road-trip right now. I love you guys so much! Have a nice rest of day :)
You two are so adorable and inspiring at the same time. I've been going through some stuffs lately and watching you in tiktok and youtube just makes my day so much better.❤️
yall are so inspiring i love yall so much
thank you Julia :) you are so sweet, hope you have a wonderful day
I loved watching the whole thing! You should have a podcast together, its so fun and interesting to hear your conversation!
wow, I really understand the question about "why would anyone get married", besides the taxes/money together/ potential issues when having a kid if the other half is not as ok as you thought. I think even on the very happy path of a relationship, when both parts are doing their best and want to make the realtionship work, it is not easy nor natural to keep it working for more than a few years, without effort. Basically, with or without marriage, after a few years, love transforms in whatever you put in: shit, boredom, lack of respect (in a bad case) or possibly some more chill, sustainable, understandable kind of live, that doesn't require you to be in top shape. For me, when I got married (which is of course reversible), for me it represented a vow "I'm flawed, you are too, be all are. Relationships are complicated and we will not always make each other happy, but we will do our best". You can say the same without the marriage itself, but for me it made it in a way more official/sacred kind of official. If for you this doesn't represent anythig, then maybe just saying it is enough/the same. You might ask yourself, if it requires so much effort to keep a life long relationship alive, then why do it. My answer is that you don't do it for quite some years, and after a while you get soooooo bored of always breaking up and starting other relationship, which you know from the start that will last a few years, you start seeing a pattern, and no progress in your life. So trying something lifelong starts making sense
Holy shit, my brother said somewhat the same thing about masculinity and femininity being like Yin and Yang but in a way to say that men and women are the way it’s supposed to be and homosexuality is not natural (he is not “against” gay people) I love that you mak took this view of Yin and Yang and said it MUCH better than my brother. This whole conversation is my confused brain getting a clear view of what I think of things.
these conversations give me life
This vids are awesome, thank you for making it. All the questions and topics you guys talked about were so interesting and made me think about them like I've never did before.
On marriage, my wife and I legally married each other in September of 2020, we only signed the paper. In December of that year we held our spiritual wedding with just the two of us in cabins in the mountains. We did a Cherokee sand ceremony and made our rings from the sand, the rings mean everything to us and was infinitely more important to us compared to the legal ceremony. I will never forget the days we spent together and I cherish our rings.
That’s cute 🥰
no bc u guys literally need to start a podcast this is so entertaining
They really do
Y’all are two of the first people who have motivated and inspired me in so many ways thank you so much
This is the first video I watched of you....But when Mattea said that she believed that she could convince herself to fall in love with anyone....I FELT THAT!! Maybe its cz I've been single my whole life, but I feel like that too....our brains aren't flawless. And honestly, when seeing some relationships, like genuinely good people "being in love with" horrible terrible people with bad personalities, I just couldn't see how it's not a choice anyway.
I LOVE love...the forever kind lol....but Im also terrified of it.
When mak and mattea said that they always been attracted to older people my heart broke honestly
This is so lovely just to listen to - feels like hanging out with people you've known for ages - so chilled, good vibes 💜
13:36 that is making me have a crisis because when I was a kid I was very girly. I wore dresses and did my nails and loved pink but I got dirty and loved being outside and wearing shorts. But now I’m in that phase (teenage) where I’m “expressing myself.” But I don’t know if I’m finding out more about myself or if I’m converting to society’s idea of gay, teenage, depressed people. Now I’m very introverted, I cover my legs cause of how society taught me, I dress masculine, I act masc, I liked “boy stuff.” Very not like my kid self. idk if I’m going through a teen phase, figuring myself out, or lying. Idk sorry for the rant
I love how you both are teasing each other on TikTok then on YT you both have great bonding :3
It was really interesting to hear about both of your experiences with gender expression! The question from the trans person about being a masc girl took me a little off guard because as a trans person myself I honestly feel the complete opposite about that--I'm transitioning to male precisely so I can feel confident presenting more femininely than I used to. It's fascinating to hear about so many different perspectives.
I love watching videos with you two. I wish I had this kind of relationship with my family tbh
Mattea is so on point for so many things! Her thoughts on marriage (and your thoughts/agreement Mak) and "why involve the govt??" are so good Both of you have such wisdom, I wish I had a wise sibling as close to me as you two are with each other.
Please keep making videos like this, your conversations are so sass-tastic!✨
I think I have very things in common with you makaela, like your childhood history and everything, interesting… I’m also gay so haha, it feels so good hearing how I think about things In someone else. You both are such an inspiration, keep going girls 💪🏻❤️
oh i am so excited for this
Yes!!!!!! What a Fantastic Day!!!! Thanks Mak!!!!!
i love your videos so much they help me a lot
you guys should start a podcast omg. I just started listening and I love it so much, I love how you can have such deep convos with your sister. This is me with my brother (he's the only sibling I can talk to like this) And we have spoken about my fears with marriage, in the end we figured out that the reason I don't wanna get married is cause I know (being gay) the woman I'll marry deserves loving in laws, deserves family fun time and a relationship with my family. Which I can't give cause I know im never coming out to the rest of my family and it hurts to realise that. This video is really awesome omg.
Yup! Staying in a relationship and staying committed is a choice. I'ts like I'll choose the same person everyday. ❤
Makingemi, when you have serious conversation with your sister. She presents herself as a very sophisticated person. Making herself extremely attractive.
Same thing I said
This was rly enjoyable I want more road trip vidsssss
I literally jumped when I saw you posted, I love watching you and Mattea ❤️
I love your videos so much and thank you for the inspirational video❤️❤️
thank you so much for watching!
I need more of these holy shi I watched every second of this. I loved this. Literally loved this. Idc if it’s a podcast either bc wow. Makes me miss talking to My sister because we have the same energy when talking as you guys 😭💜💜
Hey, glad you friend-siblings are having these philosophical conversations about social and personal perspectives on autonomy, marriage, and gender. ( Phyllis A. Lyon and Del Martin, two founders of the Daughters of Bilitis, were already together for about 50 years before being the politically symbolic first people to be legally married in San Francisco...Even so, that showed marriage is not required to prove commitment. Relationship style and definitions are very personal.)
the background "driving car" sound is so lovely
First off, apologies for only watching this now, hectic week! But my god when I say this video is 💯! Love you both! Thank you both for your openness & authenticity❤️.. Mattea that convo half way through is Literally me. For real am in the same boat & am considering getting the work done as soon as possible as it's been a constant nuisance for years! Do what makes you happy & more comfortable in your skin! 💕
I know this is months old but for anyone reading this considering a breast reduction surgery: I thought i would do the same, I had a 30GG chest for a while that I hated for many reasons. Definitely big chest genetics, my aunt got a reduction and loved it, it was great for her rock climbing and overall comfort. My chest actually sort of shrunk on it's own right after I turned 20, it wasn't weight loss bc I was always very active but a stress hormone thing. Now I can wear a 30C or D, regular sports bras actually fit and work now. So I would advocate for whatever a person thinks will be best for your body, and to know that there's always hope that you will feel more comfortable in your body.
You guys are amazing I love your video and content 💕 love you mak
WE NEED MORE VIDEOS LIKE THESE PLEASEEEEE I LOGE HEARING YOUR OPINIONS ON THINGS
i think if you were to have a relationship where you're essentially married but don't formalise it, it would be defined differently from people who are dating casually or perhaps haven't been together for long. you wouldn't introduce your life partner as 'just someone you're seeing', for example.
labels are definitely important, but unlike definitions, i think they're more important for personal purposes than for other people/ society.
essentially, the process/ structure of marriage as a patriarchal form of oppression will never disappear or lose power unless someone starts somewhere with strong definitions of what their relationship is to them, without external pressure influencing them to conform, don't you think?
You Two Are So Comforting & Are The Best People! Thanks For All Of Your Content
For some reason you're giving me Sam and Dean energy in this
I’ve always felt that I wanted to get married but then I thought…do I really really want to or is it just what society made me think I should do.
Also I agree, more people need to get on board with not getting offended when people just don’t know things. We can’t change or open people’s thinking if we don’t share knowledge
The intro sets the mood😭😭
This was so wholesome!💕
Like I’m here pausing the video to think about my thoughts on the different topics. 😂😂😂
Really good video to just sit and listen to!! Super interesting topics and takes all around. I love having these types of conversations with close friends and my girlfriend. (Btw I’m finally with her in person now, we did it.) -Henrik
Marriage is made of more than love and that passion fase (2/3 years) so it is emotion but it is also an active choice. I believe in living together first too, for a good while.
At your age Mak and even older I felt the same way as you, but later on we sometimes learn that it's more than that. We need to be on board with the person when it comes to medium and long term goals, if you want children or not (adopted or not, if not who will carry it), how many, how to raise and educate them, how to feed them (one of you may be a vegan or something else), what things you both need to take to therapy regarding yourselves, house chores (although as lesbians we do have a diferent Dynamics then that of heterossexual couples but still), like, everything. Those things are part of a long term relationship. Plus, a lot of abusive relationships would be prevented too if people where more assertive in that way. :)
But, that being said, you are wonderful and you are doing a great job on yourself. You guys are great. Loved this vlog.
My favourite duo rn🤣
I love makingemi and can't count how many tyms have watched her coming out video tym to tyms.... coming out should not be a thing...but in Africa and specially in Kenya it's hard to come out since it's not allowed...but we still do exist date and live together
idk but my nana and papa were crazy for eachother and loved one another dearly. married or not they would act the same loving way with eachother because they were truly and adorably in love.
I loved this.... you guys definitely need a podcast.
the main advantages to marriage are around births and deaths. Long term romantic partners who aren't married can often have difficulty visiting their dying partners in hospital if the family don't want them to, whereas a married spouse has the right to visit. Likewise, when it comes to births and children things can be more complicated for unmarried partners than if the people are married
for pretty much everything else it makes very little difference, if any (assuming you don't need constitutional protections against having to give incriminating evidence against your spouse)
idk, I thought about this with my spouse a few years ago (we got married last year). We very much viewed the wedding as an excuse to throw a big party with our friends and family celebrating our love, with the legal side being entirely secondary (in fact nothing legal, or religious actually happened at the "wedding", we had a vague ceremony thing, but it had no official power whatsoever, the legal stuff was done a couple of weeks earlier with only our parents and my spouse's brother there, and because my spouse is Jewish and I'm a non-Jewish atheist we can't have a religious marriage). We're not planning to have kids and whilst we're certainly hoping not to have to deal with it any time soon, one of us could end up in a hospital with something life-threatening at any time, and so having that safety net of legal recognition is really valuable
Maks face expressions when she’s talking is just the funniest thing 😂
Loved the conversation! Looking forward to all the great content I know you will continue to create this year.
This makes my day 💕 peaceful vibe
Keep up your great work 🙌🏻
“That’s great business even” DECEASED. Not sure why, but the tone of that really did something to me.
3:40 Marriage in general had economical purposes in the past. Now things has changed, women have more opportunities to follow their career and be independent. That's why Marriage now it's more of a personal choice than something you obligated to do. I 100% agree with Mattea ofc you have the right to stay with your partner without being engaged. It's clearly personal choice and something between the couple to decide!
I could literally sit and listen to you and mattea talking all day I really love your Contant ❤️❤️btw you like the pfp?
I love how one second they are talking about poop and the next second they get into a deep conversation about marriage
I enjoyed this conversation a lot! I would watch it if it was hours long :)
love the long vid mak
just the video I needed after finding out a friend of mine got sick!
oh boy, glad I had a long one for you this week lol
@@Makingemi thank you for the long video I hope my friend gets better soon!😊
MAAAK you are sooo amazing and gorgeous omg stay healthy and keep inspiring okay love from Indonesia
I agree, they balance each other out (masculinity and femininity).
Mak just moved up 3 spots on my list of mommies😍
Sounds weird, but I can see my sister and me in you. Like how you talk with each other/how you act around each other and stuff. Of course I only know you on camera, but yall still make me miss my sis.
And in may I can drive a car and I wanna go on a road trip with my sister so bad after watching this, because I wanna talk with her like you do haha omg
Wishing you a healthy and happy 2022 and enjoyed this vlog a lot, and agree with all your opinions and your conversation with each other is amazing. Clothing doesn’t classify your sexuality and your marriage opinions I do agree with also very interesting perspective and thank you so much for this vlog. Looking forward to seeing your videos this year.
y'all need a podcast!
I loved this so much!!!
Proud of you two! ♥️😘
I’m literally a stereotype, a TROPE, when it comes to flirting. It’s so embarrassing, I always feel so stupid because I know other people notice and judge me it’s just awful. I try to stop…but it just happens…
I’ve recently realizing I’m gay and the thought of feeling like I need to tell people makes me want to rip my hair out. The one friend I told I told her I just want to find someone and get married or be in a relationship with them and my “coming out” would just be introducing her as my girlfriend/wife but idk if it’s that easy!
In Jungian psychology that balance between the masculine and feminine is called the contrasexual. That is what Jung believed too. That it had less to do with sexuality. And also that we have to strike a balance within ourselves too. If your interested look up the anima and animus.
Always make the effort. Yes that social construct was from a place of control originally. In essence, it's about rights 🥰 You do you.
ooooo more road trip vids!!
Loved this. Absolutely loved it. I don’t usually comment on YT vids but wow speechless
Different Country doesn’t always mean different culture in a noticeable way. English speaking countries, pretty similar vibe. Even Western Europe, begause of all the movement to English speaking countries… pretty chill dating those areas. From experience.
Hey Mak! How are you going! Looking incredible as always!
aw, thank you Molly! hope you are doing well