After 3 years of continuous listening to spiritual talks , I understood what he's saying. 🙏 Listening to him since 3 years. I couldn't understand anything what actually he is talking about. But today finally. 🙏🙏 He did so much for mankind. Thankyou sir.
@@Omg-nw6vy maybe one day even that happens. All we can do is try n try . Many people can't understand what is going beyond thought. Becz they never tried to know. All we can do is. To try n wait for the moment.
That's not true. Look at the Alzheimer guys. They are not losing their memory because of the leg/hand/heart/spinal/leaver damage. They are losing their mind and perosnality firstly because of the brain damage. We can say that "every cell is a sylo of memory" but only from some points of view. The "memory" of non-brain tissues is irrelevant in the question of thought, fear and time: - For example You need the memory in the DNA only for cell division and not for the processes JK talks about. - But without special brain parts the personal memory will dissapear.
Ele está correto. Se o medo veio devido a algum incidente ocorrido no passado, e isto está fortemente gravado na memória passada da pessoa, a pessoa deve perceber que aquilo é apenas um registro, como um livro. Sendo assim, a pessoa perceberá , pela meditação (dhyaana), que a mente não pode ser ela, é como uma filmadora. Então, a pessoa não é a máquina nem a coisa filmada, é algo além disso, o eterno testemunhar. Haverá um espaço entre a pessoa e a coisa observada, tudo que está na mente tornou-se objeto de estudo, e a identificação acabou-se. Surge a Liberdade, sem amarras. Grato pela percepção.
Yes but think about it. You're only repeating what other people have said. You believe something because it sounds nice to you but you don't realize the fact.
Thought could be called "miniscule action".It is actually the blueprint prepared in content of consciousness by the mind,as an observer of a particular observed with which it wants to achieve a positive result through " becoming" When the mind,as observer, has zeroed in,so to say,on a particular observed,it's object of desire at that point in time,it scans memory for the relevant information about that observed ,and based on this,it prepares a blueprint or miniscule action,and looks for its result in the " relative world".After the required action and time are spent on this process,mind goes on to identify with the result of that action,and says," I am that".Every mind,as an observer,is engaged in the same subjective,hence divisive action,and it is achieved through thought.
Everything about us is confined/limited by space and time but thought does not occupy space. Now, humanity is simply not ultimate but I think divinity is, and inherits a different world our time-space-matter oriented mind cannot imagine. Therefore, thought must be our connection with that spaceless and timeless world. We might think that we think in time but it's just memory trick. Our thought is timeless, doesn't occupy space, (and we can't see it).
While this entity is a wonderful pointer to personal truth , he himself said follow no one ,not the buddha not the krishna and not christ. Hear his words and follow your own truth.
We perceive 'thought' just as we perceive everything else. We are Consciousness perceiving Mind. A feature of Mind is thought, which is the same thing as Ego, as Duality, as illusion, as Maya, as the 'apple' in the Garden, as the devil whispering in your ear... All suffering, all fear, all life and death, all time, mortality... is thought/duality.
But as soon as one sees the fact that thought is capable of creating fear, he desires to control it, maybe not immediately but certainly, if you see something is harming you your natural reaction is to do something about it. So, should one try to control his thought? What happens if he does? Or is it even possible or necessary?
Мысль- это наше мироощущение в данную конкретную минуту. Джидду Кришнамурти - это человек, который достиг вершины эволюции на примере своей жизни. Этим он нам показал, что можно достигнуть просветления, только в том случае, если будешь аскетичным и воздержанным, а также самое главное для просветления- это наличие просветлённого наставника, который правильно поставит твое внимание, и поможет его там закрепить. Сейчас проблема в том, что нет просветленных учителей, то есть они есть, но они скрываются от людей, а те кто выдает себя за просветленных учителей, они все - мошенники. Для поиска настоящего просветленного у меня ушли годы, я долгое время следовала за мошенником , потом за другим мошенником, пока меня не спас, мой сегодняшний учитель.
me> is thought the basis of fear? ChatGPT> Thought can be a contributor to fear, but it is not the sole basis of it. Fear is a natural emotion that serves an important evolutionary purpose by helping us to recognize and respond to potential threats. It can be triggered by a variety of factors, including past experiences, external events, and internal physical sensations. While thought can play a role in fear, it is not the only factor. For example, a person may feel fear in response to a loud noise or an aggressive dog, even if they are not consciously thinking about it. Similarly, a person may feel fear in response to physical symptoms, such as a racing heart or shortness of breath, even if they are not consciously aware of what is causing these symptoms. So while thought can be a factor in fear, it is not the sole basis of it.
I believe the starting point of all emotions is thought. Even in case of physical fear or a dog barking, there is the thought of danger or the harm it's going to cause, then fear arises. The first encounter of a physical danger will probably not trigger fear because at that point there is no memory to induce the thought and fear flow. We may argue that the first time I see a tiger, I will be fearful, but that would be because we are already told that tiger is dangerous and it's already in our memory. Just like a child who has never experienced fire would not be afraid to put their hand in fire for the first time. We don't have to think consciously or be aware of the thought for the thought to do it's job. In fact, unconscious thought is the root of all our major problems including desire, fear, anxiety, guilt, anger, frustration. Again physically triggered emotions are not what we are much concerned about because we rarely encounter them. In fact, it's the emotions triggered from memory that trouble us/ create inner conflict every moment of our life. And realizing that all emotions arise from thought and also realizing that the breathe still continues when thought has completely stopped can be a point of true liberation, at least for some time (ironically) until the memory-thought-emotion cycle comes into power again.
There are two types of fear physiological fear and psychological fear physiological fear is necessary and not actually a fear but more of an intelligence to protect your body from outside danger but psychological fear is not necessary because it is caused by memory and therefore there is not any immidiate danger at such,it is thought that is creating a story which is our imagination which is inducing fear, here the thought of what will happen in future is causing fear, we have to see this fact.
Every fear is caused by thought it is just that it is happening so fast that sometimes we dont see the whole process.once we start observing the thought and our response then it starts getting slow down and then we can actually see this happening. The key is to observe and find out.
The human thought process is the one who's the physical body's consciousness energy's dwelling inside involuntary karmic AC continuous not knowing to themselves is a completely secret and marmic process we undergo every movement.
Thought is nothing but it is word which creates images in our mind and this cycle continues means chatting goes continue in our mind but now my question is can I stop chattering in our mind is it possible if possible how I can do please give me answer
you remove the chatter by reminding yourself that the mind is NOT the real you. The mind, the like the body, is only a part of you, therefore you do not let these things be the master, you (the spirit and the soul) is the master over them.
i remember how he used to tell me every year, "read this good book I wrote" but then there were more selling books of maths and science to be slaves of white race
(FACTS OVA FEELINGS). A Thought tha Thinking wen it Begins to Reproduce Moor and Different Thought is the Moor UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVE Definition of watt it Means for Something to bee ALIVE
Pretty much summed up everything in 8 mins, no need to watch another video, just be, as you are, and only ever can be, truly and clearly, remove the veil, thought is the veil, or the belief and not clear seeing of thought is more so the veil. There is, that’s all, and nothing need be added
I believe that JK is not trying to create a picture or an idea of thought and time. He is not trying to explain the physical parameters and other abstract concepts. He wants us to observe. He wants us not to think but to exit thinking and perceive the very creation of thought and time in our minds. As i can see and understand JK the thought is just a process of ressurection and modifiaction of some memories. So we are experiencing and repeating something and then it becomes memory. Then we can remind it and think. The time is another product of mind and it is the glue between memories and ideas. So if You are stopping to remind, the perception of the time is instantly dissapears. I mean not the physical and biological time - some parts of the brain can feel it quite well. But rather some abstract time - like the past, the future, days, weeks, months, seasons, etc. That's quite intersting observation of JK, I should try it hard.
This is one of the last talks before his passing in 1986.. what a productive years of serving the humanity by this great master
He was a true master ❤
He is a Beautiful chandler of truth. There is only truth, nothing else matters... believe Krishnamurti❤️❤️🎁🙏
You are hearing jk and saying believe him. This is absurd. Question fucking everything and find it yourself.
After 3 years of continuous listening to spiritual talks , I understood what he's saying. 🙏 Listening to him since 3 years. I couldn't understand anything what actually he is talking about. But today finally. 🙏🙏 He did so much for mankind. Thankyou sir.
please tell what you understand
@@NothingneslesS He'll get back to you in another 3 years.
Самый "великий" человек из всех мне известных
@ vitaliy and still know!
Only limited can bring conflict! Time and thought are root cause of fear. If there was no time there is no fear because eternal has nothing to lose.
yes we understand that but still we are helpless to go beyond our thoughts
Eternal means
What do you mean ,is this body eternal ?.you will loose it one day?
@@suryagupta5933
It means the PRESENCE which IS before, during and after the end of the "Time/Thought",
That's you
TATVAMASI!
@@Omg-nw6vy maybe one day even that happens. All we can do is try n try . Many people can't understand what is going beyond thought. Becz they never tried to know. All we can do is. To try n wait for the moment.
🙏
Not only brain, each n every cell is a sylo of memory.
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That's not true. Look at the Alzheimer guys. They are not losing their memory because of the leg/hand/heart/spinal/leaver damage. They are losing their mind and perosnality firstly because of the brain damage.
We can say that "every cell is a sylo of memory" but only from some points of view.
The "memory" of non-brain tissues is irrelevant in the question of thought, fear and time:
- For example You need the memory in the DNA only for cell division and not for the processes JK talks about.
- But without special brain parts the personal memory will dissapear.
Ele está correto. Se o medo veio devido a algum incidente ocorrido no passado, e isto está fortemente gravado na memória passada da pessoa, a pessoa deve perceber que aquilo é apenas um registro, como um livro. Sendo assim, a pessoa perceberá , pela meditação (dhyaana), que a mente não pode ser ela, é como uma filmadora. Então, a pessoa não é a máquina nem a coisa filmada, é algo além disso, o eterno testemunhar. Haverá um espaço entre a pessoa e a coisa observada, tudo que está na mente tornou-se objeto de estudo, e a identificação acabou-se. Surge a Liberdade, sem amarras. Grato pela percepção.
Amazing clarity of difficult concepts like time and thought.
Life altering moment with such understanding.
Literalmente escalofrios con cada frase, para finalmente ver joya en la mano, gracias Jidu K, buenas noches.
Thank you! I'm grateful to you🙏
the thinker is the thought
Take no thought....no distraught
Thought and time are one and the same..
When both ends .
Then only total freedom enters our life with flowering love and intelligence..
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yes but think about it. You're only repeating what other people have said. You believe something because it sounds nice to you but you don't realize the fact.
@@FRElHEITWords are tricky that way... Keep you in their confineds
Thought could be called "miniscule action".It is actually the blueprint prepared in content of consciousness by the mind,as an observer of a particular observed with which it wants to achieve a positive result through " becoming" When the mind,as observer, has zeroed in,so to say,on a particular observed,it's object of desire at that point in time,it scans memory for the relevant information about that observed ,and based on this,it prepares a blueprint or miniscule action,and looks for its result in the " relative world".After the required action and time are spent on this process,mind goes on to identify with the result of that action,and says," I am that".Every mind,as an observer,is engaged in the same subjective,hence divisive action,and it is achieved through thought.
Everything about us is confined/limited by space and time but thought does not occupy space. Now, humanity is simply not ultimate but I think divinity is, and inherits a different world our time-space-matter oriented mind cannot imagine. Therefore, thought must be our connection with that spaceless and timeless world. We might think that we think in time but it's just memory trick. Our thought is timeless, doesn't occupy space, (and we can't see it).
Thoughts comes into force through past experiences, knowledge and rememberenc.
Muchísimas gracias!!!❤🙏😊
A moment in time and space
Thought born out of me end in me !!
focus attention into the border between what is limited and what is not, the gateway into your heart can be glimpsed
While this entity is a wonderful pointer to personal truth , he himself said follow no one ,not the buddha not the krishna and not christ. Hear his words and follow your own truth.
Excellent 👍
We perceive 'thought' just as we perceive everything else.
We are Consciousness perceiving Mind.
A feature of Mind is thought, which is the same thing as Ego, as Duality, as illusion, as Maya, as the 'apple' in the Garden, as the devil whispering in your ear...
All suffering, all fear, all life and death, all time, mortality... is thought/duality.
Sri Ramana Marashi, embodiment of this,
great
Does it thinging the ending of time? And thought is knowledge. Facts is unlimited, what is limited was you and me.
But as soon as one sees the fact that thought is capable of creating fear, he desires to control it, maybe not immediately but certainly, if you see something is harming you your natural reaction is to do something about it.
So, should one try to control his thought? What happens if he does? Or is it even possible or necessary?
woww
Мысль- это наше мироощущение в данную конкретную минуту.
Джидду Кришнамурти - это человек, который достиг вершины эволюции на примере своей жизни. Этим он нам показал, что можно достигнуть просветления, только в том случае, если будешь аскетичным и воздержанным, а также самое главное для просветления- это наличие просветлённого наставника, который правильно поставит твое внимание, и поможет его там закрепить.
Сейчас проблема в том, что нет просветленных учителей, то есть они есть, но они скрываются от людей, а те кто выдает себя за просветленных учителей, они все - мошенники.
Для поиска настоящего просветленного у меня ушли годы, я долгое время следовала за мошенником , потом за другим мошенником, пока меня не спас, мой сегодняшний учитель.
If you are searching for the teacher, then you have not understood JK. Just saying.
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me> is thought the basis of fear?
ChatGPT> Thought can be a contributor to fear, but it is not the sole basis of it. Fear is a natural emotion that serves an important evolutionary purpose by helping us to recognize and respond to potential threats. It can be triggered by a variety of factors, including past experiences, external events, and internal physical sensations. While thought can play a role in fear, it is not the only factor. For example, a person may feel fear in response to a loud noise or an aggressive dog, even if they are not consciously thinking about it. Similarly, a person may feel fear in response to physical symptoms, such as a racing heart or shortness of breath, even if they are not consciously aware of what is causing these symptoms. So while thought can be a factor in fear, it is not the sole basis of it.
I believe the starting point of all emotions is thought. Even in case of physical fear or a dog barking, there is the thought of danger or the harm it's going to cause, then fear arises. The first encounter of a physical danger will probably not trigger fear because at that point there is no memory to induce the thought and fear flow. We may argue that the first time I see a tiger, I will be fearful, but that would be because we are already told that tiger is dangerous and it's already in our memory. Just like a child who has never experienced fire would not be afraid to put their hand in fire for the first time.
We don't have to think consciously or be aware of the thought for the thought to do it's job. In fact, unconscious thought is the root of all our major problems including desire, fear, anxiety, guilt, anger, frustration. Again physically triggered emotions are not what we are much concerned about because we rarely encounter them. In fact, it's the emotions triggered from memory that trouble us/ create inner conflict every moment of our life. And realizing that all emotions arise from thought and also realizing that the breathe still continues when thought has completely stopped can be a point of true liberation, at least for some time (ironically) until the memory-thought-emotion cycle comes into power again.
@@gaurabsubedi3579 nicely explained 👌
There are two types of fear physiological fear and psychological fear physiological fear is necessary and not actually a fear but more of an intelligence to protect your body from outside danger but psychological fear is not necessary because it is caused by memory and therefore there is not any immidiate danger at such,it is thought that is creating a story which is our imagination which is inducing fear, here the thought of what will happen in future is causing fear, we have to see this fact.
Every fear is caused by thought it is just that it is happening so fast that sometimes we dont see the whole process.once we start observing the thought and our response then it starts getting slow down and then we can actually see this happening. The key is to observe and find out.
@@Venom_590 very nicely explained brother...
The human thought process is the one who's the physical body's consciousness energy's dwelling inside involuntary karmic AC continuous not knowing to themselves is a completely secret and marmic process we undergo every movement.
I’m very confused about this topic. If I have a song stuck in my head, what exactly is the song?
Thought is nothing but it is word which creates images in our mind and this cycle continues means chatting goes continue in our mind but now my question is can I stop chattering in our mind is it possible if possible how I can do please give me answer
you remove the chatter by reminding yourself that the mind is NOT the real you. The mind, the like the body, is only a part of you, therefore you do not let these things be the master, you (the spirit and the soul) is the master over them.
i remember how he used to tell me every year, "read this good book I wrote" but then there were more selling books of maths and science to be slaves of white race
Thank you Master Oogway🐢
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
One feels compelled to say to this fella that there is no picture for the thought. Neither there is a picture for coordinates.
The one´ d be right but only within limited conceptual world
(FACTS OVA FEELINGS). A Thought tha Thinking wen it Begins to Reproduce Moor and Different Thought is the Moor UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVE Definition of watt it Means for Something to bee ALIVE
Why does he look 110 years old?
Isn’t it just the acceptance of the fear ?
Pretty much summed up everything in 8 mins, no need to watch another video, just be, as you are, and only ever can be, truly and clearly, remove the veil, thought is the veil, or the belief and not clear seeing of thought is more so the veil. There is, that’s all, and nothing need be added
Those who understand what he says will not be typing anything in comment section.
You typed
I cannot understand this. What is thought? What is time?
What is the importance of experience, memory, knowledge, thought
I believe that JK is not trying to create a picture or an idea of thought and time. He is not trying to explain the physical parameters and other abstract concepts. He wants us to observe. He wants us not to think but to exit thinking and perceive the very creation of thought and time in our minds.
As i can see and understand JK the thought is just a process of ressurection and modifiaction of some memories.
So we are experiencing and repeating something and then it becomes memory. Then we can remind it and think.
The time is another product of mind and it is the glue between memories and ideas. So if You are stopping to remind, the perception of the time is instantly dissapears. I mean not the physical and biological time - some parts of the brain can feel it quite well. But rather some abstract time - like the past, the future, days, weeks, months, seasons, etc.
That's quite intersting observation of JK, I should try it hard.
You can be a better piano player tomorrow, but I will be better person tomorrow is thought projecting into the future which psychological time.
Was he happy himself?