Namco should make the bear run like a real bear after fff 1+2, or heat dash. Like a gallop. The animation would look smoother and can do hunting bear mixups after the run or like a super plus heat smah headbutt or heatsmash low... eg @ 0:49, 0:56 a gallop animation would be cooler there.....
Im not certain what the polish caption says, but it has the input for HBS so maybe if you press 3+4 it puts you into that stance with a gallop animation? Just allowing you to have a choice between them maybe.
😕 Not much was added. I guess he finally got animations updated. Was really hoping more Heihachi moves. Like for the whatever random unknow reason that Armor King can wave dash and Dark upper, I was hoping bears would be next... dang...
Two things caught my attention, the nerf of damage and frame data of his db, 2 being -1 on hit, and his hellsweep forcing crouch on hit but being faster. Not sure about the second one being buff or nerf but they should've kept his first one the way it is since it's one of his main pokes. Also sad for the b,f2 not leading to a screw on normal hit anymore.
gutting Kuma's "electric" was one of the most questionable ideas, if not straight up dumb. character favoritism really shows, some dudes in Bamco are probably still coping that bear won TWT
RIP Hach. He was the only Mishima I could play worth a damn. Oh well, I don't mind being forced to finally find a new main. I did secretly just want to play Bearhachi though XD
@@aestheticstorm yep me too Although i usually play kuni and DJ, but damn oh damn,Bearhachi would've been something, and they almost falsely advertised his lore
not as heihachi as i wanted, but I love the new animations. Wish his mouth moved a bit more during his animations. The permanent smile is distracting lol ayo, his grabs are hilarious. He has a Andre the Giant choke slam lmao
I've been a Shaheen main for over 6 years in Tekken 7. I still am looking to play Shaheen in T8, however I absolutely love all the changes they have done to Kuma for his moveset. Im not talking about about visual changes, but overall input changes. There's so much changes for the better in inputs. I dabbled with Kuma in T7 and previous Tekkens, but never have mained him. T8 might be the first time I main Kuma. I know it wasn't shown here, but the "Bear Electrics" he also has and is super fun! Can't wait!
I don't use Kuma much, but was wishfully thinking he was gonna have more Heihachi moves or at least a dark upper. They only gave him like 2 Heihacha moves 😕 AND Panda better not have the same EXACT moveset lol
I Main Kuma and lili and Kuma here looks awesome, heat from b1, db1,2 and Hunt stance Rolling bear is too fun People try sidestep or jump and take dmg instead of just blocking 😂😂 B,db,d,df 2,2 also ppl dont see the 2nd hit is a low which lead to combo its really surprising
That's unfair for kuma players like me but I always expect that to happen unfortunately. Let's see how usefull are those guardbreakers at high level gamming
Looks like they made his inputs easier. Grizzly claw and grizzly claw smash are QCF instead of HCF, and rolling bear is just a double forward input. I think I spy a lot more stance transitions too.
Now that we've seen Kuma's trailer, where are the Salmon Wind God Fists? Was it something they added into his moveset last minute, perhaps a hidden move? 😮
That's interesting. So this really isnt final yet. I returned to this vid since the Kuma reveal. The Electric isnt shown here. I hoping for better Alisa changes then.
0:15 Just to clarify, when you say "mostly" what percentage are we talking here? 70% the same, or a number even higher than that? They boasted about how they're different now due to Kuma's training, but this has me worried that Panda is just glorified pallet swap again...
I don't know about frame data or properties on block/CH, but they have different Rage Art and Heat Burst animation. You can check Panda in a separate video: th-cam.com/video/ujtxu7s2LIw/w-d-xo.html
his new moves change a lot of how he's played, and his new charge mechanic especially changes how he's played. have 10 really drastic new things is a lot more important than having 100 little new things.
No new homing moves, db2 is worse on hit now, still can't punish - 10 from fc, b,f2 no longer launches, and db3 is one.... Its gonna be hard to rank up, oooof.
The only thing that really disappoints me is the fact you can’t combo off of his snake edge anymore. What is the point of using it if theres not reward for using such a risky seeable low
These were either not visible in the move list back then or not present in that build. You can notice in the Shaheen trailer that there is a move which was not present in the move list video.
@@JakubDi yea thats what i was saying its funny and trash how they didnt even bother to display in heat enhanced movesets, I honestly wouldnt even be surprised the final build wont feature that as well
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Namco should make the bear run like a real bear after fff 1+2, or heat dash. Like a gallop. The animation would look smoother and can do hunting bear mixups after the run or like a super plus heat smah headbutt or heatsmash low... eg @ 0:49, 0:56 a gallop animation would be cooler there.....
Agree
U f*ckin damn RIGHT maan
This is not an opinion, this is just correct
Im not certain what the polish caption says, but it has the input for HBS so maybe if you press 3+4 it puts you into that stance with a gallop animation? Just allowing you to have a choice between them maybe.
Absolutely terrifying 😂
Kuma looks fun af, was hoping for a few more Heihachi moves; but I’ll take it lol
they need to give him EWGF,
@@Bluzlbeebut he already has it
@@kingofdragons7 What's the input? Is it in T7? Sorry, I'm boomer Tekken 3 player and didn't follow Kuma much after that.
@@aestheticstorm he had it since T6 i believe, i don't remember the input
An Electric Bear Godfist (EBGF) would've been sick
so happy to see salmon massacre (2:44). rest in peace heihachi.
Fue hermoso hermano ❤
was hoping for a dark upper or bear upper LOL but he still has new cool stuff. cant wait
2:40
@@hughhugh7988 that's a Mishima CD1, not CD2 which is what I was referring to
Kuma trailer just dropped and he's doing wind god fists now
😕 Not much was added. I guess he finally got animations updated. Was really hoping more Heihachi moves. Like for the whatever random unknow reason that Armor King can wave dash and Dark upper, I was hoping bears would be next... dang...
Yea, kinda dissapointed he and panda are still pretty much the same
I guess tekken will always have a wasted character slot for the sake of a skin lol
They hyped up with Kuma's bio a lot but he still kinda the same character in T8 😢
I want Thunger God Paw man
@@randomaether skip to this timestamp 6:35. you'll see it there
Just wanted to drop by and let you inow the lore reason AK can do those things is because he's based as fuck and the coolest character.
bless you for this
You finally got your bear!
latest kuma reveal shows that he can do wind god fist... i wonder if this movelist is not final? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
It seems the move list wasn't final version. We really saw Wind Bear Fist!
It wasn't and it's actually really good. Looking forward to the release version even more now!
Yup i agree. This is a good thing! Finally we have 2 different bears hopefully. It doesn't make sense if panda can do wind god fist foo 🤣
@@JakubDiguess this means the other movelist videos might be missing some moves that will only be in the release version
Yes, Shaheen already had a "new" move in his trailer last week.
It would have fit Kuma's Lore by giving him Heihachi's Moveset.
Two things caught my attention, the nerf of damage and frame data of his db, 2 being -1 on hit, and his hellsweep forcing crouch on hit but being faster. Not sure about the second one being buff or nerf but they should've kept his first one the way it is since it's one of his main pokes.
Also sad for the b,f2 not leading to a screw on normal hit anymore.
Damn, i loved abusing bf2 range...
gutting Kuma's "electric" was one of the most questionable ideas, if not straight up dumb.
character favoritism really shows, some dudes in Bamco are probably still coping that bear won TWT
db 2 is spammable because it crushes highs and its range is still great
db4 launches on CH only
@@moodyhearts db4 is quite worthless anyway, so that's not a bad change imo. It'll help green rankers cope with fighting bears.
went here after seeing the trailer
Never been this disappointed in Tekken. Where is the Electric Wind Hook Palm?
THEY GOT US GOOD
They hyped him so much, all the TH-camrs based on his lore, I wanted a proper heihachi styled kuma, not a kuma that does hei's 1 plus 2 that's it
RIP Hach. He was the only Mishima I could play worth a damn. Oh well, I don't mind being forced to finally find a new main. I did secretly just want to play Bearhachi though XD
@@aestheticstorm yep me too
Although i usually play kuni and DJ, but damn oh damn,Bearhachi would've been something, and they almost falsely advertised his lore
@@aestheticstorm Reina has slightly more hei moves,try her,and she looks strong af
not as heihachi as i wanted, but I love the new animations. Wish his mouth moved a bit more during his animations. The permanent smile is distracting lol
ayo, his grabs are hilarious. He has a Andre the Giant choke slam lmao
Heihachi's TRUE son. XD It is awesome that he has Heihachi's Square+Triangle double palm strike.
I've been a Shaheen main for over 6 years in Tekken 7. I still am looking to play Shaheen in T8, however I absolutely love all the changes they have done to Kuma for his moveset. Im not talking about about visual changes, but overall input changes. There's so much changes for the better in inputs. I dabbled with Kuma in T7 and previous Tekkens, but never have mained him. T8 might be the first time I main Kuma.
I know it wasn't shown here, but the "Bear Electrics" he also has and is super fun! Can't wait!
I don't use Kuma much, but was wishfully thinking he was gonna have more Heihachi moves or at least a dark upper. They only gave him like 2 Heihacha moves 😕 AND Panda better not have the same EXACT moveset lol
he has a lot more heihachi moves. but if all you know is ewgf, wgf, and dark upper this i can see why you are disappointed
@@brian1436 Aside from T7, did he have more of Heihachi's moves for T8? I only noticed 2. I could be wrong cuz I don't use him much 😕
b22 is a Heigachi move, the ender is just different
Heihachi Headbuts for plus frame, Kuma swipe up for combo
@@tremaynehawthorne8273I also noticed just 2 new Heihachi moves, 1+2 and b2,2,1. Beside his ff+2, uf4,3 and headbutt, can't really name any others...
I Main Kuma and lili and Kuma here looks awesome, heat from b1, db1,2 and Hunt stance
Rolling bear is too fun People try sidestep or jump and take dmg instead of just blocking 😂😂
B,db,d,df 2,2 also ppl dont see the 2nd hit is a low which lead to combo its really surprising
And they made it ⬇️↘️➡️2️⃣2️⃣😢😢 so easy now 🎉🎉
I hope we can input old method for a blue spark atleast. Some other characters have a blue spark for using the old/legacy input.
In the end, it was not about the move set but the (highly destructive and overpowered) fish we meet along the way~
my main looking good lol
No wavedash and no electric? Kinda disapointed 😔
💀i mean we have reina
So the bears really didn’t need separate spots on the select screen, since they’re pretty much the same.
wheres the panda one. im trying to see it
@@brian1436 th-cam.com/video/ujtxu7s2LIw/w-d-xo.html
Why Harada loves nerfing Kuma so much? He's a botton tier😢
He was really pissed when rangchu took the world tour with panda I guess
cuz a bear won a tournament
That's unfair for kuma players like me but I always expect that to happen unfortunately. Let's see how usefull are those guardbreakers at high level gamming
Nerfed How? He got stronger Neutral Mixup tools with his unblockables and plus frame string enders
you dont even know what youre saying.
Looks like they made his inputs easier. Grizzly claw and grizzly claw smash are QCF instead of HCF, and rolling bear is just a double forward input.
I think I spy a lot more stance transitions too.
Man these charging unblockable moves are scary af when against the wall...
Something about seeing a bear run full sprint 🏃♀️ 💨 on 2's is terrifying to me 😂
Kuma somehow feels depressed in this video
It would be nice if Kuma had a standalone demon bear (b2) in his movelist
Update: they gave him EWGF. I hope panda doesn't have that.
he only have a Wind God Fist
kuma got electric wind salmon fist now
Now that we've seen Kuma's trailer, where are the Salmon Wind God Fists? Was it something they added into his moveset last minute, perhaps a hidden move? 😮
No hellsweep?!? Yessss
That's interesting. So this really isnt final yet. I returned to this vid since the Kuma reveal. The Electric isnt shown here.
I hoping for better Alisa changes then.
Damn, i like him more in seven. i see my hbs df 1 loops are over
bears without hbs df11 is abomination,
LETS GOOOO
Siemka Jakub, dzięki ziomku 😁
He does not get an i12 launcher from b1+2 in heat. Look again, that move is i18.
0:15 Just to clarify, when you say "mostly" what percentage are we talking here? 70% the same, or a number even higher than that? They boasted about how they're different now due to Kuma's training, but this has me worried that Panda is just glorified pallet swap again...
I don't know about frame data or properties on block/CH, but they have different Rage Art and Heat Burst animation. You can check Panda in a separate video: th-cam.com/video/ujtxu7s2LIw/w-d-xo.html
he's barely changed from before. And he only got hei 1+2 as a new hei move. Rather disappointing.
f,f+2 is Heihachi's as well
@@pineqa2209he's been had that
his new moves change a lot of how he's played, and his new charge mechanic especially changes how he's played. have 10 really drastic new things is a lot more important than having 100 little new things.
@@pineqa2209 He had that already before.
No new homing moves, db2 is worse on hit now, still can't punish - 10 from fc, b,f2 no longer launches, and db3 is one....
Its gonna be hard to rank up, oooof.
they gotta change his running animation.
HBS 1,2 being gone is really bad for Kuma
yep, and hbs df1,1 is also gone and ws 1 1 😢 t7 bears is better
WHERE IS THE ELECTRIC WIND GOD FIST
Kinda disappointed. Expected more than two Heihachi moves... and why is his mouth open all the time? It looks like King's jaguar mask.
With all the hype around ps5 and still the console don't even have that many exclusives
The only thing that really disappoints me is the fact you can’t combo off of his snake edge anymore. What is the point of using it if theres not reward for using such a risky seeable low
It's way faster at 21, way better to have it as a poking/ch low
I think it also juggles in Heat, but I wasn't 100% sure, so I didn't mention it.
@@JakubDi I guess we’ll find out in a couple days
it launches on counter hit still
What about his dance?
He has some very nice new moves and combos. Why they never do that with Roger?
Hi I don't think b1+2 in heat state is an i12 launcher, it shows i18 when you do the move
He means 1+2
1+2 said it was i13 tho
they keep the Hei's moove for dlc Heihachi
They removed the tenstring and other moves 😞
I wish Kuma has Heihachi's Powerbomb & the Nuggie.
I have this idea: Kuma's 2+4 is when he bear-hugs his opponent and then does the powerbomb afterwards.
@@vinceamaro1382kinda like how Jinpachi's got a Nuggie followed by s Bulldog in Tag 2.
Maybe Reina is Kuma's new owner?
BearWGF when
kuma‘s mouth always open
Harada give Kuma electric pls
How did you get access to this?? Nobody ever mentions how?
I was at a pre-release event. You can find more here: th-cam.com/video/i0UNj6S9LIU/w-d-xo.html
@@JakubDi thanks
db4 not launch was hit :(
He's so cute
where is the godfist?
am i the only one in this section who is still waiting for kuma godfist
It seems it was not present in this pre-release version. The first time we learned about Kuma's EWGF was when the trailer dropped.
Back throw 70 damage lol
It's been doing 70 damage since Tekken 6 at least lmao
And d1+2 is guaranteed after that.
Where the heihachi moves? Lol
1+2 and TGF (the last hit from b+2,2,1) and the special throw he already had, but I think that's that.
Yikes mega nerfed
FK the DB+4 doesnt knockdown anymore :(
Que falso decían que tendría movimientos de Heihachi y solo vi 2 miserables movimientos 😒
Estabas esperando el Kuma EWGF?
Quien dijo que tendría?? Tiene 4 movimientos de heihachi eso quiere decir que sigue vivo el viejo
@@ELJUGOrig 5* tiene mi movimiento favorito de Heihachi, el pedo que mata de 1
@@leorevolo7966 😁😁🤣 acaso regreso ese movimiento que no lo vi
Nothing new
dajcie mi go
The funny shit is these vids dont ever show the enhanced moves in heat, or in the move lists like wtf there should he a vid for those too
These were either not visible in the move list back then or not present in that build. You can notice in the Shaheen trailer that there is a move which was not present in the move list video.
@@JakubDi yea thats what i was saying its funny and trash how they didnt even bother to display in heat enhanced movesets, I honestly wouldnt even be surprised the final build wont feature that as well
kuma is die...
Dissapointed.
I think they straight nerfed my boi
he was already low tier but rangchu winning made Harada feel some type of way
BUT DOES HE GET HIS FATAL WIND FART MOVE BACK?! His BEST MOVE?? NO? Ok then another fail bye namco ✌🏾