Caroline Myss - The Storyteller and the Gossip (The Power of Archetypes)

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  • @lousiannegirlatheart
    @lousiannegirlatheart 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love you! Thank you for the archetype playlist! I'm not wanting to send you bread. I want to send you a hug and a humidifier 😂❤❤

  • @caroltaylor8530
    @caroltaylor8530 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hedda Hopper was a gossip columnist in Hollywood. Hedy Lamar was a beautiful actress and also a genius inventor back in the hey day of Hollywood.

    • @DancingQueenie
      @DancingQueenie ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hope she CORRECTS that.

    • @patriciaedlr
      @patriciaedlr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. For a minute I thought Caroline might be thinking of someone else, which paradoxically makes a perfect reference of what gossip is.

  • @DancingQueenie
    @DancingQueenie ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I work in an office 95% women. We agreed that anything we say about a coworker, we are willing to say to her. Everything we say about each other is 100% POSITIVE! Hey, Macy! Jess says your project is brilliant! ❤️❤️❤️ We’re all happy and supported.

  • @HealerWarrior101
    @HealerWarrior101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great comparison of storytelling versus gossip, Caroline. I am glad you did it, since nowadays, unfortunately, so much damage is being done to people through mindless, malicious gossip by small minds.

  • @thestudentat101
    @thestudentat101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @0:59... “Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.” -Eleanor Roosevelt
    *️⃣That quote sums up a lot for me.

  • @BarefootShaman
    @BarefootShaman ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you! I learnt to REALLY honour my life story as I practiced the 12 Steps by Alcoholics Anonymous. In particular, Steps Four and Five. The icing on the cake for me in life is to take other men through the steps and to hear their stories. "Our small stories become a vehicle for the larger stories, the greater truths about why we are here and what is our purpose." Peace be upon you.

  • @cosmicdreamz
    @cosmicdreamz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speaking of stories - the one you told about wound-ology and the Native American soldier has stayed with me and and I remember it at least once a week. ❤

  • @marya6445
    @marya6445 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I needed to hear this today. live in a Senior Retirement Community. We have more than our share of "Gossips". Both women and men have nothing kind to say about others. I try to isolate from them, but they come to my gate. I try to change the subject, but they are not interested in talking about things of interest. I love your term; social currency. It helps me understand why they do this and not to "feed the beast".

  • @izaaguilo
    @izaaguilo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Every archetype has it's positive and negative attributes but...I believe that at the end, what matters is how we choose to use that energy in our lives and others. I simply love your storyteller archetype. Thank you and Blessings 🙌 ❤

  • @graceb947
    @graceb947 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You have so much wisdom to share. Thank you

  • @RaptorGirlkathy
    @RaptorGirlkathy ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you, Caroline..I needed this, now!! I was a professional journalist for decades, & I think it fed into my need to feel "clued in", be listened to and feel important. I felt a great responsibility in transmitting correct and objective information, but I must admit, it made me cynical & judgmental. I was working in Manhattan on 9/11, and continued as a street reporter, for a few more years, then inside as an All-News anchor, during which, I developed the "media mind." Eeek You helped me in Energy Anatomy, Why People Don't Heal, and the list goes on and on..I love the way you weaved these two archetypes together. Stay well 🥰🤗💚

  • @scopeymosley8265
    @scopeymosley8265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Ms Myss❤

  • @sandraspidle5972
    @sandraspidle5972 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wisdom and truth is what I hear from everyone of your lessons, Caroline. Thankful that you have been showing up these last few weeks, I've needed your wisdom, not that I don't have wisdom inside of me, but looking at my situation from your paradigm is fuller. I recently named my Spirit, "Pure Worth", because it deserves my respect, my love, and I want to be conscious of my words, actions and attitude. Gratitude takes on a whole new meaning. You've helped me for several years, along with a few others, who teach what I need to hear, not just what I want to hear. To be honest, truly honest with myself (Spirit) is not a cake walk, in fact I have to turn around a lot in order to be worthy of this life, gift I've been given. Again, thank you for making us responsible to tell a story honestly as we can, with love.❤️🙏😺🙏🌹🙏

  • @wickedvvvwitch
    @wickedvvvwitch ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd love to hear a deeper dive into the shadow of the storyteller--specifically on lying/pathological lying, never feeling safe/adequate/comfortable enough with ones reality to disclose it truthfully.

  • @margueritebaca3921
    @margueritebaca3921 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You reminded me of my Dad's favorite quote:
    Small minds discuss people
    Mediocre minds discuss events
    Great minds discuss ideas
    He exemplified that for me! Thank you Dad. I treasure the realm of creative ideas.

    • @cyndeetaylor
      @cyndeetaylor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You cannot imagine how many times that quote has popped into my memory over the past couple of years.

  • @cyndeetaylor
    @cyndeetaylor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was listening to music, thinking about this: we GIVE attention because we WANT attention - we WANT attention because we GIVE attention. Laughing at the obvious! Great writers love great readers. Great readers love great writers. Then this video popped on my feed. The Universe is blowing my mind these days.

  • @andersstromberg6025
    @andersstromberg6025 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Great storyteller you are Caroline.👍Myself, I try to stay away from gossiping as much as possible.

  • @cloverstack
    @cloverstack ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think you meant "Hedda Hopper" who was the gossip columnist. Hedy Lamarr was probably more of a Femme Fatale and Engineer archetype, but I'd be curious to hear your take on that :)

  • @penseal.
    @penseal. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time tuning in to your channel. Wow. What an incredible description. I've been contemplating gossip for two weeks now and couldnt get my finger on why it bothered me so. Seeing it as the dark side of storytelling makes so much sense. Your lecture has lifted a veil. Thank you

  • @sumtingwong8752
    @sumtingwong8752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Caroline, my eyes have been opened to the story teller… love this.

  • @susanciambrone5784
    @susanciambrone5784 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow … needed to hear this right now … as always, Carolyn is such a blessing in my life. 🙏🏼

  • @melwillis6475
    @melwillis6475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your enlightening teachings 🥰 I send great love and appreciation 🙏🏻🙌🏻

  • @Joy_Love_joy
    @Joy_Love_joy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate this. I will definitely listen again because I want to internalize all this great information.

  • @katie.the.cosmic.sailor
    @katie.the.cosmic.sailor ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all of your archetype videos and even have your archetype cards! I relate with the poet and was wondering if you could do a video on the poet! ❤

  • @shannongillespie1440
    @shannongillespie1440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh yes! Just in time for this. Thank you so very much for sharing

  • @antor2471
    @antor2471 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting story, reminds of “Detachment” where the Detachment is from the self-indulgent immediate help in priority to the efficiency of a solution creating a long-term base

  • @negcomas759
    @negcomas759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can not thank you enough, all love of the universe to you!! Best wishes

  • @amyhodges959
    @amyhodges959 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ooooh thank you for that wonderful story!!

  • @soniareyes4425
    @soniareyes4425 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! What a clear way to describe the gift of the storyteller!

  • @dawnfreshour8425
    @dawnfreshour8425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just love watching your very helpful videos. I've benefitted from many of them. Thanks

  • @barbarajohnson1442
    @barbarajohnson1442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you mentioned the gossip columnist, I was reminded of a famous quote by the Count of Grandsailles:
    " Balls are given for those not invited" 😂
    Thank you again for words and ideas to live by.

  • @Terry-ye3gp
    @Terry-ye3gp ปีที่แล้ว

    Soul Food, Gathering Time!!! Thanks so much Caroline. Brilliantos!! Mwah.😊❤🎉

  • @avivashefa4430
    @avivashefa4430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel blessed to have discovered you,Caroline. Always brilliant and your grasp of people and the universe is stunning!! I begin my day listening to one of your lessons and am always in awe of how much you know. I must, however, remind you that the gossip columnist was Heddy Hopper, not Heddy Lamar . The latter was an Austrian Hungarian born American actress who actually invented many things.

  • @PilgrimagewithJesus
    @PilgrimagewithJesus ปีที่แล้ว +18

    God, my therapist and Caroline get me…..and that’s good enough.

  • @A-Znation
    @A-Znation ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks u actually answered my question about the narcissistic spectrum with ur final words on ur narcissistic archetype session … lol ur perspective is setting my Persephone free

  • @sherigreenwell7905
    @sherigreenwell7905 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like to do what I call "White Gossip" - I make a point of passing on positive remarks and observations that will lift others up. I refuse to take other people's negative and destructive gossip on board, especially because it is usually unsupported by actual facts.
    When I receive information - including eZines, articles, videos like this one, etc - I always pause to think about who else would find the information useful / helpful and pass it on.

    • @cyndeetaylor
      @cyndeetaylor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been practicing the same thing for the past few years. If it's something that makes me feel good to talk about, I do. If not . . .
      As another teacher I follow said "Taste your words before you spit them out of your mouth."

  • @drishanadasilva463
    @drishanadasilva463 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you you have been an amazing blessing in my life❤

  • @anitadai6143
    @anitadai6143 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you !

  • @mannie2075
    @mannie2075 ปีที่แล้ว

    So true 👌and thank you so much for remanding me!!😝
    I feel it is so wrong into my guts 💪🏼❤️🙏✨👌

  • @elisabethveltman5291
    @elisabethveltman5291 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy and learn from these talks, thank you.
    Just an important note, Heddy Lamar was a famous actress and also an inventor. Her discoveries were used by the navy, and the precursors to the wifi and blutooth we use today. Hedda Hopper, I believe, was the gossip columnist.

    • @elisabethveltman5291
      @elisabethveltman5291 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, your talks have helped sustain me and so many throughout difficult times with beautiful depth and interest. Thank you, again for being here.

  • @KimloveMuse
    @KimloveMuse ปีที่แล้ว

    I Love this series ♥️ I Love all your work. Thank you so much 🙏💫♥️As a Psychic Medium this helps me so much in my own work and life.

  • @anndelorge8451
    @anndelorge8451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Learning about archetypes from you is right in there with Course in Miracles for me. I am curious if there is a Gardener archetype and if so, can you offer some resources of info about it? I can’t find anything about it. One author compared it to an architect and that’s all I could find. Thanks.

  • @stratovation1474
    @stratovation1474 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant!

  • @maryshirren4865
    @maryshirren4865 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you ❤

  • @sharandhillon1138
    @sharandhillon1138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was gossiping today and this video drops 😳 sorry 🙏🏽 lesson learned 😅

  • @maryoanna
    @maryoanna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was interesting, thank you! Would it be possible to focus a little more on the story teller whose stories don't only use people (like the gossip) but also contain symbols, signs and surprising ways for bringing collective patterns to the light? Could you please elaborate on that part as well, possibly through another archetype like the poet or the visionary? I'd be very much looking forward to such a video as well 🪄🤓😍
    Thanks in advance for your consideration 😊

  • @sandraspidle5972
    @sandraspidle5972 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you talking about, Hedda Hopper, maybe? I just read a documentary about Hedi Lamarr, I thought they said she was an Actress/Scientist. Just wanted you to know what I read, I could be wrong. Love you, always.❤️

  • @cefrench7106
    @cefrench7106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ain't nothing more painful as being the target of a malicious gossip. Embellished lies and slander.

  • @arzuozer5717
    @arzuozer5717 ปีที่แล้ว

    The story is a story from the Holy Quran, the journey of Moses and the teacher of all prophets Hz. Hızır. Sure Kehf 18/71. Hz. Hızır is telling Moses, not to discuss his desicions he will made throughout the journey because he is not able to see the core and essence of the events, Moses prays to have enough compassion to understand the whole. Beautiful explanation and interpretation! Thank you for all your videos 🙏🩵

  • @sheilahalvonik8977
    @sheilahalvonik8977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are so beautiful. I am grateful for you.

  • @carrietetzlaff8941
    @carrietetzlaff8941 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again:)

  • @suecooper9011
    @suecooper9011 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the gossip can't see is their boomerang.

  • @amyrosenold-music-healing-yoga
    @amyrosenold-music-healing-yoga ปีที่แล้ว

    If i recall correctly, Hedy Lamarr went down in history not only as a beautiful actess, but as a spy in WW2.

  • @jasasyiken5561
    @jasasyiken5561 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just my opinion. I do believe that whatever story that one is telling, is really a story to oneself. And how the story is articulated depends on the lens (perspective) of the story teller (or gossiper). It’s like building on fire metaphor Caroline shared before. Someone on the left and another one the right of the building, both tells a different story based on what they each see. The truth is that the building is on fire. Whether it’s a good thing, a dramatic scene, a bad thing…like the guru story, nobody knows why the building is on fire. Therefore the guy on the left or right are both just telling “their truths” not necessary “the truth” as the truth is unknown to the seer.
    When an event occur, by nature our mind goes into action for purpose of comprehension. One tells him/herself stories. Through this process, one gets to see his/her own lens ie perspective (whether +ve or -ve). Every story told is an opportunity to know oneself better. Like Charles Dickens’ story described in this video, is about his views which are influenced by his own experience. Readers only relates and we either like or do not like the stories told. I believe, when looking at the tabloids and gossips, it’s good to see our receptions to those stories. If we like all the malicious stories, we enjoy seeing others humiliated, criticized or punished in our relation to those kind of stories, it shows that we perhaps harvest some kind of anger or vengeance towards certain portfolio of people such as the rich or successful because we feel that there is injustice in our own lives. And the best story in this context is to see if we can change the stories within, to break the relation to those malicious or negative stories. If successful, we can become compassionate to the tabloid victims and gradually will no longer be addicted to negative and harming stories people sell us as their social currency. This is how the storyteller can use his/her gift to learn and grow. Those who look outside dreams. Those who look inside awakens. ✌️

  • @lisademers9581
    @lisademers9581 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic information that helps me further understand the weapon of gossip. It’s interesting that many years ago, I dreamt of Jesus talking to me. It is the only dream, in my recollection in which a Jesus figure has appeared or spoken. The only clear message I remember was regarding gossip, or speaking about others when they were not present. The lesson was clear. Do not do it. It’s incredibly harmful to every party, mostly and including myself. There was a tremendous amount of gossip going on at my place of work at the time. I learned how to quickly and easily walk away and keep my mouth shut. Don’t give that crap any energy.

  • @chitownRonnie
    @chitownRonnie ปีที่แล้ว

    Heddy Lemar was a starlet.... HEDDA HARPER, she was the gossip columnist., I love your content and I love your archetype deck ❤️❤️❤️

    • @loribrack6251
      @loribrack6251 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hedda HOPPER was the gossip columnist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedda_Hopper

    • @boplo1
      @boplo1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “That’s Hadley!” Harvey Korman as Hedley Lamar.

  • @tristanraffan
    @tristanraffan ปีที่แล้ว

    Question for the community and for Caroline. How interested would you be in the Archetypes on Kings & Queens?

  • @maureendrennan9328
    @maureendrennan9328 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was similar as a child(biographies, documentary and my community in my village and school.

  • @MazeyDaze
    @MazeyDaze ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you mean gossip columnist Hedda Hopper rather than the actress Hedy Lamarr?

  • @mysticat7652
    @mysticat7652 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hedda Hooper Hollywood gossip columnist. Heddy Lamar '40's movie star.

  • @amotherofcolour5989
    @amotherofcolour5989 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good example of this archetype is Wendy Williams. The way she told a story just memorized her show, just hot topics alone. But also had so many negative side effects to those around her.

  • @jonhinson5701
    @jonhinson5701 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you mean Hedda Hopper instead of Hedy Lamarr?

  • @marynanceschellenbach3359
    @marynanceschellenbach3359 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oops! Hedda Hopper, not Hedy Lamarr

  • @jessicakreimermanlew3825
    @jessicakreimermanlew3825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you meant Hedda Hopper, not Hedy Lamarr. Hedy Lamarr (/ˈhɛdi/; born Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler; November 9, 1914[a] - January 19, 2000) was an Austro-Hungarian-born American actress and inventor.[2] She was a film star during Hollywood's Golden Age.[3]

  • @jg3094
    @jg3094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hedda Hopper was the gossip, not Hedy Lamarr (a beautful and highly intelligent woman-read her bio!).

  • @maureendrennan9328
    @maureendrennan9328 ปีที่แล้ว

    Books and educational stuff.

  • @betaren21
    @betaren21 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see a mean gossip as a social bully.

  • @revk-squared9046
    @revk-squared9046 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s 18:60. Very interesting.

  • @Lilrumbles
    @Lilrumbles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hedley Lamar- Mel Brooks

  • @johnburke3445
    @johnburke3445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hedy Lamarr a gossip???? Don't think so (she was an actress and an inventor).
    Perhaps CM meant to say Hedda Hopper (who was a gossip columnist)?

  • @usernameida
    @usernameida ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you😍🙏Eat bread💪❤️

  • @DonnaPiaVocci
    @DonnaPiaVocci ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a wise person once said helping a person, perceived as deserving, may interrupt their karma. choose wisely. the karmic narrative is key and only accessible by way of trust
    in the larger cosmic reality of that person, and necessitates detachment of one's bias
    in perception and understanding derived from that filter. the gossip(ers) has/have
    followed me from a very, very young age. if history is any teacher much of the motive
    is based in envy and jealousy. they find pleasure in my challenges instead of focusing
    on living a full satisfying life base on what gratifies them. seems a total waste. sad.

  • @bowenalignzknott582
    @bowenalignzknott582 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do we see our 'history' how do I discern that truth. To see clearly?

  • @imaniwilson1848
    @imaniwilson1848 ปีที่แล้ว

    To Caroline’s Team: Please post a correction of Caroline’s mistaken reference to Hedy Lamar vs. Hedda Hopper. I’m sure it was an innocent mistake, but it deserves to be acknowledged and corrected. Thank you!

  • @claudiaoprean7433
    @claudiaoprean7433 ปีที่แล้ว

    💙💚🧡💜💚💛🧡💙🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @revk-squared9046
    @revk-squared9046 ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s a story in Quran about Moses and a Teacher. Very similar to the Guru story.

  • @rwhorton44
    @rwhorton44 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hedda Hopper...not Hedy Lamar, she was an actress and intellectual.

  • @lesleyhumphrey6498
    @lesleyhumphrey6498 ปีที่แล้ว

    Careful Caroline. I think you meant Hedda Hopper.

  • @annlarson3723
    @annlarson3723 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was Hedda Hooper not Heddie Lamar

  • @tom99790
    @tom99790 ปีที่แล้ว

    What archetype would be the primary one that runs Trump?
    Bully?

    • @nyu3492
      @nyu3492 ปีที่แล้ว

      Narcissist

    • @tom99790
      @tom99790 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nyu3492 I know this is a psychological diagnosis, but doubtful that it is an archetype.
      Are you sure?

    • @nyu3492
      @nyu3492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tom99790 I didn’t think so either but Caroline did a video recently on narcissists. It doesn’t matter… this is a very power hungry guy who feels horrible about himself if he is not on top of the world. For me it’s more interesting how many people are mesmerized by such an obviously incompetent person. I guess there are no good alternative candidates for them so they project their hopes and desires onto him.

  • @marjcsb8672
    @marjcsb8672 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carolyn Myss I love your work so much one time I listen to a tape of yours “Anatomy of the Spirit “ at least 100 times. However, I’d encourage you to reconsider only sharing the idea that Hedy Lamarr may have introduced gossip by listening to her story. I believe she was a misunderstood woman, and today she would’ve been far different I think gossip was used by her to protect herself when she came to Hollywood, perhaps that got out of hand she did invent a technology that might be behind all of our cell phones, and helped Howard Hughes to design a faster airplane. I don’t think many people care about that, but being a wannabe geek, she’s been one of my Heroes. I’m sorry that she may have disappointed the world in someway. th-cam.com/video/3QB_P8gvZ-c/w-d-xo.html

    • @marjcsb8672
      @marjcsb8672 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still love ❤️ all your work, and look forward to every single new episode that you publish🏠. I consider you a genius in your work and you have helped me to sort out numerous spiritual questions… Including your book on archetypes, which turned out to be a predictive exercise in my life.

  • @miriamceornea97
    @miriamceornea97 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry but the story of the murderer that was not saved from drawning to me makes not sense, how do you NOT know that if you would have save that person that was almost to loose their life., they might have almost experience the "horror" or death on himself in a a way that is not "natural" death but is caused by something exterior, altho obviously you bring it on yourself, might have not changed his mind or heart....?! to say, do not help anyone because they might be people that cause harm, dose not seam like a grate teaching at all. It is like an eye for an eye and this is not the teaching or CHRIST at all, dose not mean that we should be foolish and support peoples hurtful behavior but I once had that, a man with his head bent over a bench in the train, I could have signalized that to the train driver, they could have called an ambulance and seen if the man was doing good, might have been a druken person, might have been someone on drugs ecc. but the point was, I could have done something and still have decided not too, because in my head I also thought, someone else will, which probabbly did but why did I not do it? to be it was to not "bother" other people on the train, I was more afraid of people negative reaction because they had to get to work and stopping in the middle of the rail road would have blocked or delayed the trains and this is why but the shame that I felt for not having done it KNOWING I could have, man that was something I sometimes think about this day, I don't beat myself up for that but there is not excuse to what people might have done in the past that should stop anyone from caring and act nice or do whatever is needed, what if in that moment it was God acting throw me giving me guidance and I just decided to bypass it, what if that guy that toll the men in the story was also not his consciousness speaking to him, I fully understand not getting overly aggressive or desperate if not able to have help more in certain situations but it is NOT an excuse.

    • @miriamceornea97
      @miriamceornea97 ปีที่แล้ว

      one more thing, in Austria that is even called "unterlassene Hilfeleistung", which means that if you had the mean and capacity to do something but you just watched and avoided it and you get called in as a witness and they find out that you did nothing, you actually can get a jail sentence for it

  • @naturelover1284
    @naturelover1284 ปีที่แล้ว

    the snoop gets offended and feels she has found something out about you if you don't want to tell her all, and she snoops more.
    YES, SHE! SHE concentrates on all statistics which have to do with your private area. That is why vulgar men call it a money maker. SHE is just as vulgar though it is long, and played out and covert.

  • @spawnkie
    @spawnkie ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps inappropriate and machiavellian, I will find the gossip and feed them misinformation. It is a credibility thing.

  • @MariaBaca-r8r
    @MariaBaca-r8r ปีที่แล้ว

    Then what is Christ about? We turn the other cheek, we forgive, we feel compassion and empathy?