I went through everything I have with me in this temporary accom trying to find an outfit that resembles any character from the movie but i don't have anything remotely close, so had to settle on a boring tshirt dress. Shoutout to my heart necklace from 14yrs ago so I could at least tie that in 😅 I had a go at recreating Tally"s makeup from the party too but dang I was kinda expecting more fun looks esp for a party scene
you should do a little more research in the products you do use because you can make them all at home and the ones you buy are not great for you including suncream. liked your vid. keep it up
This video got me thinking so much, I loved the honesty and the thought processes D'Angelo talked about. I even mentioned it to my therapist and we dissected what it meant to me. I highly recommend it
Ive read the entire uglies series. I remember asking my math teacher about the golden ratio once, and she did her best to emphasize that we shouldn't judge ourselves based on some crazy standard. ❤ Also I just remembered my username on here is actually my gay ship of Tally & Shay 😅
You should have asked your Arts teacher. Then you would know it's a useful instrument for when one draws up a madeup human. It has nothing to do with one being attractive, it's just a rule of thumb how to create a shape which would be quickly recognized as a human or a human face.
I work in the hospital, where many people due to the disease/health conditions may not look their best, but I still find so much beauty in them-the wrinkles, freckles, scars, grey or no hair, baggy eyes, stretch marks etc...its all a map of someone's life journey and I absolutely love it. Our bodies tell the story of resilience and strength , we should cherish them. Those little imperfections make us unique in it's own way and that's something truly special ♥
Uglies is amazing. I was in the demographic it was "for" when it came out as a book in 05, and it really left a lasting impact on me. I still think about it from time to time even at 28.
I'm 35, and I read a portion of this book in high school, but never finished (friend borrow) I walked blindfolded into this video, and was delighted to actually have a griphold on the material. I remember the party. Funny how you don't get to choose core memories before your brain completes it's development. 😮 Life's an adventure. That party scene (in my mind) could have been written off as a fever dream
My mother made it a point to not call me "beautiful, pretty etc" growing up, her reasoning "I didn't want you to think looks were important" truly, she was called ugly throughout her entire childhood and I think she was pretty sure I would grow up to be "ugly" like she percieved herself to be, and she didn't want me growing up thinking the fact that I was ugly was a problem. Not being vain is nice on the surface, but it's a far deeper issue to me, she didn't fit the beauty standard and therefore, because of the opinions and biases of others, she saw herself as inherently ugly and her daughter, with her DNA, would naturally be ugly as well. In her eyes, neither of us are beautiful, we are just naturally ugly, seeing ourselves as beautiful is off-limits, ugly women like us just have to learn to value ourselves for reasons other than beauty, rather than find self love and appreciate some inner beauty which radiates out or finding beauty in the interesting features of our faces. It's a shame because she clearly has a deep sadness and inswcurity about believing she is an inherently ugly person, and that kind of persistent self hate can definitely dampen inner beauty, and it ended up developing into some kind of NLOG energy over time, she really talked bad about women who enjoyed fashion, makeup, or anything to do with outer appearances.
i really appreciate you sharing your experience here; i grew up with a very similar dynamic. i, too, would like to feel beautiful, even if my family doesn't see me that way......
That's so cruel and sad... 💔 You go ladies! You rock the world and we your sisters need you! Who cares how you look...😠 You all are 100% beautiful, period. Even in your worst days. 🥰 And you make all of us stronger. 😍 You go shine bright and show them. 💪🏻 Just know we love you exactly as you are and we have your backs everyday. ❤
So she complimented you on your skills and achievements... right? Right?? Please tell me she complimented you on your skills and achievements. Also, to make you feel better about not having had your mom call you beautiful: opposite situation isn't much better. My mother used to be very vain about the fact that she was very thin.. until she rapidly gained weight. No one in our family was ever thin. We come from a deep ass-end of Belarusian countryside, and we're all built like workhorses. She resented it, and from her teens, she starved herself to be "pretty". As we all know, starving yourself doesn't work, and of course it didn't for her - her poor body began hoarding fat. So she switched her attention to me. I was now her "mirror". Now I had to "keep" my figure. She'd doll me up, and stare at me, and say things like "you look exactly like me. I was so beautiful. I can't believe how beautiful I was". It brought me to the point where I was ready to violently destroy my own face just to not look like her. I spent years changing everything about myself and yet I still flinch away from mirrors whenever I feel like I look like her. All my photos are taken in heavy makeup that changes my face as much as possible. Occasionally I still think about plastic surgery - not to become more "beautiful", but to remake myself into something radically different from her. Recently, I've been trying to practice body neutrality, and I'm slowly making progress into accepting myself. To anyone who has hard time with body positivity - I can't recommend it enough!
Whoooaa this resonated with me because my mother is the same way in terms of how she was treated in the past, her poor self image and how she limits and looks down on herself. The only difference is that my whole life she's done the opposite of your mom and praised me for being "prettier than she ever was" even though I look just like her minus twenty years, and every time we're together and someone remarks on how much I look like her, she always says something like "I'm sorry she had to take after me" and it has always made me so incredibly sad. My mom has never been ugly or anywhere close to it in my mind, she's just an extremely sensitive person who was bullied for most of her life by her family and her peers, and she internalized the hate and the fatphobia so much that it's impossible to convince her otherwise. I've been trying since I was a child and to no avail.
I was surprised when I saw this come out on Netflix. I read it years ago along with the Hunger Games and always thought it should've been the bigger dystopian story but it is more relevant now so the timing worked out
The conclusion I got from the movie... is the more you focus on how you look and how pretty you are... you look away from what is going on in the world. The world is dying and people only care about BBLs. The more you base things on your looks, the less substances you have. How deep can you be if you lurk on the surface. I went to a small collage and the people around me had surgeries...I could not have a deep conversation we with them because it all came back to looks and how I needed some.
yes i agree ! , people are becoming dumb and stupid day after day, teenager are drawn and distracted by stupid things such as ideal beauty and infinite reels, forgetting bigger problems such as the death of children in wars, environmental pollution, etc.
Last year I went to a different dentist to who I usually see because my regular dentist was on leave. I was in for just my routine check and clean and this dentists went on to tell me everything that is wrong with my face, from fine lines, to sagging, to sun, spots to thinner, uneven lips. She then went on to say she can give me threads, a non surgical facelift, a vampire facial and lip lift, as well as baby Botox all for a small fortune of 5-10k I just wanted my teeth checked for no new cavities and a clean. I left feeling so ugly I actually cried when I got into the car
What the actual?? Why would a dentist go to tell you everything wrong with you and try to sell you on doing all of this to "fix" yourself in ways not at all related to your teeth?! I'm so sorry they did that, completely unprofessional and unbelievable way for them to behave
Ew wtf , I would have cried too. I’m so sorry babe , that psycho is just trying to make $ . I saw another comment say report them , I would second that , but don’t reopen wounds if that would be too difficult. It’s terrifying that a dentist is doing these procedures anyways , that can’t be right or done well.
I think working with patients in a hospital has helped ground my perceptions about what is a "normal" appearance. I see wrinkles, fat deposits, scars, roughened skin and so many other variations of the human body. However I am my own worst critic and have really had to work to normalize my own aging face and body. I also rarely go on Instagram and don't have a TikTok account. I know of one influencer who has stated she only follows women over 50 to help normalize her perceptions. I think working to expose ourselves to people who aren't filtered to the max is helpful in combating this perfection obsession our culture has given us.
I love Tiktok for educational purposes. Just swipe away the prettiest and only stay for substance. It works. Believe me, there's a reason everyone is against it and the government is trying to get rid of it. You can learn about the world directly from the source.
I love Tiktok for educational purposes. Just swipe away the prettiest and only stay for substance. It works. Believe me, there's a reason everyone is against it and the government is trying to get rid of it. You can learn about the world directly from the source.
It's important to remember when watching a movie or someone famous and they look beautiful that it's tons of makeup and a hair stylist. And often a lot of technology that filters their flaws. Most people feel ugly, but most people are not ugly. I personally think every woman is beautiful in some way. Thanks for the video. Always interesting to hear your insight🧤
I was listening to Conan O'Brien podcast a few months ago and one of the guests was a female comedian or an actress(shamefully I can't remember her name) and she told an anecdote how she was doing some show and young girls approached her and told her that she was very pretty and they want to be like her. She then took her extensions and makeup off to show them that it's all just showbusiness magic. Parent of those girls thanked her.
@@AuntieMamies yeah it's SO often styling or just expensive products. I've been acquaintances with plenty of semi-professional models, and most have pretty bland, ordinary faces which can be styled in different ways. Not like they look bad or anything, but you would never guess out of all the makeup and lighting.
I have gold eyes (technically the term is "Amber"), and I get so many "are you wearing color contacts" comments, which increased after the Twilight movies and now I fear they'll increase again after this movie. Everyone wants gold eyes, no one wants to be asked "are you wearing color contacts" all the time.
I had a friend when I was 13 with golden/amber eyes. I was always so jealous lol I had never seen anyone with eyes that colour before. She also had stretch marks that she was super insecure about but I always thought looked so cool.
I have a little gold because I have (actually fairly common) central heterochromea, and in highschool a kid asked me if they were my real eyes. I guess he meant contacts? It's such a weird and accusatory question, plus be real, like you can't tell if someone is wearing color contacts, if you're looking for them you can actually see them. I saw a woman once with gold eyes with a turquoise ring around the outside. Gorgeous. But I didn't say anything, because I can be normal, and like, just because it's positive doesn't really mean you should comment on someone's appearance? Like, maybe their hair? idk.
Once when I lived in L.A., in the aughts, I had to get some headshots. The makeup artist told me “you know your face isn’t symmetrical, right?” I told her her observation and comment were poorly timed as my asymmetrical face would likely now be on my mind for the entire photo shoot. I’m good with my asymmetry though. I appreciate unique beauty!
Omfg I hate that! I'm a makeup artist and whenever people comment things about their OWN face, I try to reassure them that whatever thing bothers them isn't nearly as obvious to anyone else. I try to make people feel more confident and comfortable when they leave my chair, not to make them have new concerns they didn't even have before.
@@eponinesg well I wish I would have had you doing my makeup at that time! Hopefully by now, this person learned her lesson and has been more supportive, or changed her career.
So many people have this issue. More girls than guys because a lot of girls don't get positive reinforcement in other fields like guys do. I've asked many girls I know and they all say they have low self esteem. And it just shocks me because if I had what they had, I would never have that issue. It just goes to show you how your upbringing can really impact how you see yourself. And how social media makes influences you how you see the world. Because a lot of these girls have the idea that their worth is based on how other people see them. Not what they accomplished.
I think you'd be surprised at just how many guys struggle with the same, but don't feel free to talk about it. Most of my guy friends, cis and trans alike, all struggle with body image issues, some having developed EDs because of it. They are all people who most would consider successful, and are complimented accordingly, but as humans, most of us want to be attractive. It goes beyond gender, even though the beauty industry is targeted towards women. On the guy side, we have a similar thing where the protein powder, supplements, and gym is heavily pushed. It can cause huge self image issues seeing tall, buff men that is widely not achievable due to them being dehydrated, working out to an extreme, etc. I absolutely don't say this to imply men have it worse by any stretch, simply that as humans we all struggle with wanting to appear in an unattainable ideal way, just like the movie is showing.
Exactly. The other good qualities we have as women are tied to how beautiful society sees us as. We're allowed to be valuable in society in our intelligence, strength, kindness, etc only if were conventionally beautiful also.
Guys still have the same problem, we're just not allowed to talk about it. Either you buckle down and fix it, shut it, or if your genetics wont let you get there: pin it 💉
I read all of these in middle school thankfully. Definitely helped with loving the “non perfect” aspects of myself. We are all beautiful individuals. ♥️
I think I’m already on my journey with letting go of these ridiculous beauty standards but this was a good reminder!! I appreciate you speaking on it bc I think a lot more ppl need to think abt how dystopian and unrealistic the standards are. Hoping more ppl embrace more realistic beauty standards or abandon standards of beauty altogether.
DID NO ONE WATCH THE TWILIGHT ZONE? lol this is exactly where this was always going. Number 12 looks just like you! And I wonder if the pig mask was a reference to the eye of the beholder.
i went to see deadpool & wolverine at the cinema with my sister, and at the shirtless scene she just went " thank you hugh jackman for sacrificing your health for this"💀
NGL, changing eye colors was one of the aspects of the uglies universe that I found *super* appealing. (I read the books before my chronic pain was really making itself known - I'm guessing the books would hit a *mite* differently now) I'm kind of surprised I haven't gotten into colored contacts, because I really love the idea of being able to change my eye color around. I'd pick deep, deep purple. Or dark grey. Or dark green, but a more uniform green than what I currently have. Or possibly a full sclera tattoo black, because freaking people out would be fun. (Though obv that wouldn't be much of a popular choice in the world of the uglies universe)
I deleted tiktok because my body dymorphia got so much worse (it was during covid). It started out as looking at cool outfit ideas and then realising they didnt look the same way on me.
I remember reading the first and second books of this series as a child! Hadn't realised it was a movie now too. Thanks for another great video, it's interesting to reflect on how a dystopian sci fi future in 2005 hits uncomfortably close to the bone in 2024
I've been a viewer for quite some time and never really commented on anything as far as I remember, but I need to thank you. You talk so in depth about all sorts of important and progressive stuff on this channel and it makes me so happy to know that you are also vegan. What a great example you are setting for your viewers. 💚🌱 I'm grateful for all the educating you do out here! 🧤Thank you.
I actually got so excited when you mentioned Dom, his videos are awesome. Also I just started the video and I’m already being reminded of growing up and in school the girls would always ask each other what plastic surgery they want when they grow up. I always got weird looks when up until I was 9 I said I didn’t want anything, then by 9 years old all I wanted was a double mastectomy (I developed incredibly early, it was hell, would’ve been for anyone, but especially as a trans guy). I was told repeatedly I should at least get a nose job which was really frustrating because my nose is one of the few parts of my body I never had an issue with, but people have been determined to make out like my nose was horrific or something because it’s the one thing besides my weight that others have complained about when it comes to my appearance. One of my ex’s even said for my 18th he’d pay for a nose job if we were still together. Thank Thor I’m with someone completely different now Also - One Amethyst purple eye and one bright green eye, like supernaturally green but not dayglow green, both with silver flecks. I always do that combo when I have the contact lense. When I have the energy to wear them, lol
Never even heard of the book or the movie, but now I am interested! People in certain industries and politics seem to use sci-fi dystopian works as inspiration and roadmaps rather than cautionary tales... As for eye color change, I don't know which one I would choose. All colors are pretty, so... I'd go with one that changes according to my mood. If I'm feeling zen, my eyes go silver; if i'm pissed, they go pitch black, and so on 😁
This sounds like a cross between an old Twilight Zone episode called Number 12 Looks Just Like You, with elements of Logan’s Run and The Stepford Wives. Goes to show these issues have been around for a long, long time
🧤 I don't read nor watch movies, I appreciate Bryony for going beyond a Cliff Notes video by analyzing the varied medium of a particular story (Film and Literature) as I love stories though my own arts and practice keep me from investing the time she does so graciously. Thanks!
I read those books when they came out but I never realized, until I heard your summary, that it could be analyzed as an apologea for capitalism and "pulling yourself up by your boot straps".
I thought this book series was fascinating, back in the day. Thanks for the video! My 1st and favorite Scott Westerfield book is called 'So Yesterday'. It was written in 2004 about teens who get paid by corporations to be 'cool hunters'. What really is cool, trendy, fashionable??? It's giving social media influencers...🧤 I forgot about the significance of the gloves in the book. Guess i may need to re-read
I won't watch this yet, because you're so adorable and you've immediately convinced me to watch the movie/ read the book. I love your videos and I want you to know how beautiful you are. I know you "know that" but I wish you more moments of KNOWING that than questioning it.
An ironic (yet sad) thing is before I transitioned and assumed I'd grow up to live the life of an allosexual lady, I had some body dysmorphia. I'd critique everything about me because others said that would keep me from getting a boyfriend (my family were my biggest advocates bc they also went through the same thing when younger). After transitioning I have a whole new can of worms but I love the body I was born with and frankly find it gross that I'm still expected to look 'nice' or 'attractive' for other people.
My friend worked on this movie! They're in sound department but were low on background people so they had to be in the movie! You can spot them going down the stairs in the trailer.
Maybe I’m not a good person, because, I do think most people are average. Not ugly, but not pretty. Pretty and ugly people are both rare-and I’d even argue that it’s rarer to find someone who is truly pretty, surgery or natural.
The whole thing will never fully stick with because not as single one of the "pretties" looks good to me. They look just plain weird. Like this uncanny valley mix between a real human and a wax statue.
Omg I didn’t know the movie was out yet. I’ll definitely say that the first book was the best and that it should’ve stayed a trilogy and other than the overall message of the first book I really like the world building and I think that it’s a good YA book to get into to understand how a story isn’t just a random fictional story but an overall social commentary.
I remember never wanting to be part of the "pretties", but of the "specials" - oh to have that kind of enhanced body 😍😍 Also, the tranformation didn't go far enough in the movie - in my mind, the pretties looked alien-like. So deformed that you had to have a strange beauty standard to be able to bear it.
I have small breasts and, although I was averse to the idea or surgery, I was born in the last 1990s. Every celebrity had big boobs, and that made me really self-aware. Then Ariana Grande, Jade (Little Mix) and others came along, and that discomfort was gone - I mean, not totally, because a lot of clothes are designed for larger breasts and that makes me a little sad but, overall, yeah, it's gone. I never liked the way I look in pictures either, so a rarely take them. I don't think I'm ugly, I'm just not photogenic - and I think we should use that again. You can be pretty and still not look good on camera. I never actually took part on visual social media (IG, TikTok), but I understand that young people might feel like they don't have any other options.
I liked the movie watched it yesterday. Can barely remember the book(s). In the movie I couldn’t tell the difference that was supposed to be in the face with before and after and I tried so hard. But I’m faceblind so I really didn’t get the difference 😅 When I read the book I imagined they made the eyes big like doll eyes and stuff. And I thought the specials had more cat like eyes and stuff from the description and all that. But in the movie I don’t think it was made that way? But maybe I’m too facblind to have noticed it. 😅
The difference with Peris was very significant I thought, as when you see a before his first surgery to when he gets turned into a special, his skin texture has that filter quality, his facial structure looks more angular, then of course the eyes are the same as Dr Cable's now. There was a decent difference with Shay, but that's mostly due to the body surgery (which was extreme) wig and makeup and eye colour combo. Both of them had an uncanny vibe post surgery due to filters i thought, as i think was the intention. Imo Tammy changed the least, she didn't give me the same uncanny vibes, just gold eyes, a bit of makeup, and that skin filter
Well, dystopian fiction does shine a mirror up to society's social ills to reflect it right back at us... But this video was very informative. I never saw this movie or heard of it until now, but I get its message. And if I could change my eye colour, I need or choose between having blue or green or purple for my irises.
I’ve always wanted brown too! Blue is very common where I live so I thought they were kind of boring. I think blue is alright now, but I still would like to see brown on me :)
I'm not trying to be disrespectful at all but referring to a natural eye color as "creepy" on a video that's centered around people struggling with their appearances maybe isn't the kindest move. You don't have to like blue eyes but you don't have to put them down either.
The series was fave of mine when it came out in my teen years and it still is in my mid-30s. Social media plays a part in later books but even without that aspect they still ring true.
I think it was an interesting casting/ adaptation choice - the main character is supposed to have squinty eyes, and they went with an actress who very much does not
I read the whole series when it came out, and even owned most of the books. Ive been fascinated with plastic surgery (as a concept) but would never get it for myself at this point in my life. Thank you for the great video
Also, I've learned over time if I try to appeal to everyone, I will be no one's favorite. Better be way more specific and way more you, many will not like you, but the special few will find you faster, and remember you longer
Great timing! I watched the movie last night. I actually loved it. But it was so eerie how these are already things we have wrong in our current society.
The primary things that influence how people interact are love, power, money, fame and beauty. Beauty is unique in that its effect is also sometimes detrimental. Attractive people can be underestimated, overlooked and avoided too. Really interested in where this goes.
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your continuation of bringing up the pandemic and how it’s not over. It’s rough being a disabled and immunocompromised person and having people chastise me for wearing my n95 and just trying to keep myself safe and alive. It sucks. Especially with so many left leaning channels also just acting and talking like it’s over
I read this series 15 years ago in Primary school. It was an amazing book series. I believe there’s 3 books and they’re all as good as each other, I highly recommend reading them ❤
This is exactly why I decided to get off of social media (apart from TH-cam). I'm not saying everyone else needs to do the same thing, but it has definitely helped me.
I would'nt change my eye color for a million bucks! I'm Danish with eastern european and irish ancestry.My eyes are wolf-like icy blue and contrasting my black hair, I would'nt want it changed, e.v.e.r! I've been told ut's rare to have a combination of naturally black hair abd icy eyes, so that's mine and I'm keeping it!
I am intrigued by this channel and this person cuz damn she's intelligent and actually made a deep research. and also the pace she talks is comfortable for me not to fast fwd 1.25x 😂😂 this is how people should talk in video essay cuz most likely you have the script. hate how people drag their words lmfao. anyway great insight and video!! ps. when you make the ref of 🍉 and israhell are spot on 💀
🧤 I have not read the book, but I used to work in the YA section of a bookstore quite a bit, and this series always caught my eye! Speaking of eyes, I'd honestly keep my deep blue eyes because they're the same color as my dad's.
I have felt ugly in the past but my bigger problem is that I am boring and I look like it. Looks are fine but personality is so much more important to me. I've known people who photograph well but are absolutely ugly through and through.
Yo, fellow boring person here, can 100% agree on that. Like, I am in the best physical shape of the last 10 years of my life (not that I look good, simply that I am at a much healthier weight, and have a bit of musculature in my arms), but I'm still as boring as ever. 😔
Your comment on being pro-science made me instantly subscribe. I have watched several of your videos, but you just made me very very happy ^-^. I tend to watch your videos because I very much enjoy psychology and ED topics tend to be something I hyperfocus on. I am Autistic myself, and I do not have an ED, nor do I have body dysmorphia. I don't even really wear makeup because I have never been able to wrap my head around the idea of spending hours a day just to put makeup on and make my hair look perfect to go to a job where no one cares what I look like. I am amazed at what some girls can do, don't get me wrong, and I appreciate it on them, but as far as beauty standards, I just always felt they never applied to me, because I never cared enough-- outside of learning about it from a psychology standpoint. Your videos are always well researched, well put together, and I really like the inside perspective you also give. Thank you for your content and love of science!
I keep seeing tweets and posts about how people are missing the point by saying the actors aren’t ugly enough to be called ‘uglies’, but I would argue that if so many people are making that particular point (Scott Westerfeld himself addressed it in a tweet), then maybe the point wasn’t made clear enough either in the book or in the film adaptation. I read the book as a teen and again last year as an adult and the interpretation I got was that ‘uglies’ were just average looking teens going through puberty. I think it’s fair to say that the actors they chose to play the ‘uglies’ don’t look that different from the ‘pretties’ they just don’t have a full face of makeup and wigs on and don’t have the weird cgi filter put on them. I think this is going to become a pet peeve for me because the author shouldn’t have to tweet exposition to get the point across, the book itself should convey that. I also think the explanation is a bit of a cop out because the people in Hollywood who made this were never under any circumstances going to cast ‘average’ looking people so I just feel like the people tweeting in defence of it - and a lot of them are being condescending about it - are just doing far too much (it’s giving ‘you don’t have media literacy’ energy - also I’m not saying you’re giving that same energy at all just the tweets I’ve seen are). Like they really couldn’t cast any ‘uglies’ who didn’t have perfectly straight teeth or acne? And if the point is that they all look perfect but are taught to feel insecure about it I don’t get how that’s relatable to the average person who most certainly wasn’t born in the future with some kind of gene editing to make them look perfect but not TOO perfect, that doesn’t really make any sense to me conceptually from a reader’s perspective. If anything I identified with Tally more having envisioned her as looking like a normal awkward teen🤷🏽♀️ Anyway I had to get the wee rant off my chest (apologies😩) but I also wanted to say I really like your videos and I really appreciate how you share thoughts from your own perspective and add a lot of outside context, it makes for really interesting and engaging viewing, I always look forward to the topics you cover!
I get what you're saying, but I think the point that these area already pretty people is kind of THE point. That even people this genuinely naturally good looking aren't / don't feel pretty enough, because no one does. It's literally impossible to feel pretty enough without magic flower and actual brain damage.
@@StormSought to be honest with you I don’t think the ‘uglies were actually pretty the whole time but they just couldn’t see it thing’ really was the point of the books, I think they’re trying to spin that in the marketing now to save face because they weren’t brave enough to cast average looking people. That being said (and I said this in my earlier comment), even if that was the author’s intent I don’t think he got the point across clearly enough within the text itself which is evident in the audience reaction now. And even if he had I think that would be a rubbish and incongruous plot point, there’s much less pathos in already conventionally attractive people agonising over not looking supernaturally attractive. I find the concept of people who don’t fit within a certain beauty standard striving towards a harmful and contrived extreme more compelling and more relatable. Also I don’t believe that because something is intended by the author that that makes it good or interesting (I’m not implying you are I’m just elaborating). For example, the author who ought not to be named (JK Rowling lol) wrote a whole subplot about how Hermione is stupid and wrong for wanting to end the enslavement of house elves. That was 100% her intention, but I think it’s a very ignorant, ham fisted, and frankly disgusting plot point. I don’t have to think it’s good or interesting because that’s the point she intended to make I’m like… yeah the editors should have told you to cut that entire thing out. That being said in a way I wouldn’t want to necessarily censor writers because things like this belie a lot of their worldview, and in the aftermath of her going full mask off with her transphobia people are looking back on her work and seeing her having bigoted attitudes isn’t a new thing at all. (Apologies for the tangent, I love book talk lol!)
@@mimimoonpie8190 I didn't read the books - I think they didn't have the first one at the library when I was that age - but certainly in real life the problem with an impossible ideal is that it's impossible. It might not be easy to empathize with people we see as being closer to that ideal, but no one is at the ideal naturally. It's literally not possible. And I think there's a tendency to resent people who are just a little bit closer instead of the system that makes us both feel like shit.
As a man: The biggest "game changer" for me was realizing that attractiveness has MUCH LESS to do with physical appearance & much more to do with someone's confidence & their sense of self-worth. People who are "pretty" but fundamentally insecure are truly ugly. Whether they let that show through their choices to tear others down or by constantly needed to be told how pretty they are: that kind of behavior drastically changes how "attractive" they are.
I would rather be actually disfigured in a world where nobody gaf about how you look than be objectively perfect in a world where everyone is constantly disrespecting people based on how they look. Even if you achieved perfection, people would still be more incentivized to be cruel and objectivifying about it rather than just normal. Because you're still judging people your worth on your looks and in a hierarchy which leads to competitive behaviors, nobody wants to be the "loser".
Ooh I’m reading doppelgänger by Naomi Klein . I’m also really looking forward to your next video! That was precisely my parents , members of the Green Party and super environmentalists in the 90s and now extreme trump supporters with all the phobias and hate . Wild shit . I actually felt so not alone to know that this is sort of a common thing unfortunately, I could never wrap my head around it when I was younger, but as I understand the nuances of life more, I guess I do now. Ask me anything!
I’m 6 minutes in and I can’t watch anymore because I really want to read the book now 😆 so, sorry for ditching but thanks for finding my next read for me!
I don't know what it is with me, if I'm some kind of freak of nature or I'm just autistic or simply born early enough. But I never truly hated myself. I say truly because I did use to at one point. And funnily enough I was angry at things that I either lost growing up or that some people didn't even notice about me. It was always that I had a round face and my eyes are uneven. My right eye compared to my left is slightly more open for some reason. And it took my brother 19 years to find out, one afternoon at the train station wearing contacts, after making me worried for a second about my right eye being swollen. I laughed at told him that was always a thing and I was quite baffled he had just noticed. And the other big thing was my round face I never had. I have more of a diamond/rectangular face actually (after having to stare at my id photo for my cv for ages yesterday). But in the end none of this really affected me. It was me directing it to my self because I was different from the other kids. I might say I'm lucky to be born during the wholesome years of the Internet and I only cared about origami videos or random crafts than looks really. I liked makeup because it's fun and colorful. But back then I was mostly doing it because others were and I wanted to fit in so badly. So I pretty much did what others did or thought was acceptable of me to do. So I'd have that leg up I never had when it came to making friends. But growing older, slowly loosing that dorky face and mentality a bit and having a good character development in my style is what led me to today. I'm aware I'm beautiful and some might even say I'm priviledged for it. But maybe it's the bullying for me. Maybe it's that people always used to be jealous of knowning that simply getting older and smarter makes me the way I am. I used to wear brown leggings with butterflies on them and a funky coral frilly top. I don't anymore. That is what made me look "ugly". The fact I couldn't express my style was the reason. Because I noticed the snarky remarks towards me were coming in more when I became more pretty. Tbh I still look virtually the same I did at 7 but with a better fashion sense so I don't understand why I suddently became a problem. I guess that girl saw me as competition. Anyways I now realize I'm beautiful not because I have almond eyes and medium sized lips or a diamond face shape or this or that. But rather because all those features make me who I am. Because if we go back to what I said earlier, those features alone are what made me "insecure" if we can even call it that. I say this as I didn't have it as bad as some other people and I'm not trying to gain sympathy or a bunch of people accusing me of fishing for compliments. But then again these features combined make me pretty. And I honestly see so many people I consider pretty that many would not because of this. And after being called pretty by some, even online I realized I like getting the compliments because I deserve them. But I'll let you be the judge: that's me on my profile pic i took this summer. Also I happen to have eurocentric features because well... I'm eurocentric. And for the weirdos, I'm not Asian (I get told that a lot in real life). I'm mostly identical to my Italian dad and barely look like my Ukrainian mom.
Personally, there are a lot of eye colors that I would find cool. Like silver, or smokey gray, or turquoise, or a neon cyan. All of those would be quite cool, but my natural eye color is nice too (it's a light, almost 'pale jade' green, but also with this irregular halo of hazel right around my pupil. It looks kinda unnatural, but in a really cool way)
I read a blurb for the german translation years ago and it sounded interesting. But I didn't get around to reading the books. I would never change my eyecolour, I love the way my eyes look.
I‘ve read these books in my teenage years and it has been somewhat formative. Before reading them I was sure I am going to get a nose job to make my nose tip smaller. But after reading it and some years of experience I decided that I don’t need it.
If I could change my eye colour I'd probably go with the colour on the cover for Peeps (another Scott Westerfeld book that I was *obsessed* with as a teen). It's a like a neon greenish-blue with a dark indigo ring. I have a very complicated relationship with my body, and it probably comes close to dysmorphia at times. I avoid looking at mirrors because I don't like looking at myself, but at the same time my face is the least unliked aspect about myself. My weight has always been the hardest thing to like, because I went from skinny to fat very quickly and the small amount of "positive" attention I was receiving vanished (and giant boobs are only acceptable if you don't have a tummy to go with it, and they defy gravity, as told by cruel young men). The pressure to look effortlessly perfect (or to put every bit of effort into looking perfect) is immense, and I don't even seek out beauty or style guides. I can't imagine being a teenager in this social media environment, but I also can't imagine what it would take to change it short of a massive upheaval in perception
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I went through everything I have with me in this temporary accom trying to find an outfit that resembles any character from the movie but i don't have anything remotely close, so had to settle on a boring tshirt dress. Shoutout to my heart necklace from 14yrs ago so I could at least tie that in 😅 I had a go at recreating Tally"s makeup from the party too but dang I was kinda expecting more fun looks esp for a party scene
you should do a little more research in the products you do use because you can make them all at home and the ones you buy are not great for you including suncream. liked your vid. keep it up
D'Angelo said a couple of days ago that just getting through your day is a win already.
Yes it is.
That video hit me so hard it had me sobbing in my bathtub LOL 🥺😭
Everything he said spoke to me (positively) and Ive been thinking about it since
This video got me thinking so much, I loved the honesty and the thought processes D'Angelo talked about. I even mentioned it to my therapist and we dissected what it meant to me. I highly recommend it
Ive read the entire uglies series. I remember asking my math teacher about the golden ratio once, and she did her best to emphasize that we shouldn't judge ourselves based on some crazy standard. ❤
Also I just remembered my username on here is actually my gay ship of Tally & Shay 😅
She sounds lovely.
She sounds lovely.
Damn.. we went to a science thing and learned about the golden ratio and they made everyone do one. We were like in 3rd/4th grade
You should have asked your Arts teacher. Then you would know it's a useful instrument for when one draws up a madeup human. It has nothing to do with one being attractive, it's just a rule of thumb how to create a shape which would be quickly recognized as a human or a human face.
@@kikiTHEalien but surely a European face?
I work in the hospital, where many people due to the disease/health conditions may not look their best, but I still find so much beauty in them-the wrinkles, freckles, scars, grey or no hair, baggy eyes, stretch marks etc...its all a map of someone's life journey and I absolutely love it. Our bodies tell the story of resilience and strength , we should cherish them. Those little imperfections make us unique in it's own way and that's something truly special ♥
Same , i go outside so i know a look human in comparison , edited faces look uncanny, i don't find it pretty
Uglies is amazing. I was in the demographic it was "for" when it came out as a book in 05, and it really left a lasting impact on me. I still think about it from time to time even at 28.
I'm 35, and I read a portion of this book in high school, but never finished (friend borrow) I walked blindfolded into this video, and was delighted to actually have a griphold on the material. I remember the party. Funny how you don't get to choose core memories before your brain completes it's development. 😮
Life's an adventure. That party scene (in my mind) could have been written off as a fever dream
My mother made it a point to not call me "beautiful, pretty etc" growing up, her reasoning "I didn't want you to think looks were important" truly, she was called ugly throughout her entire childhood and I think she was pretty sure I would grow up to be "ugly" like she percieved herself to be, and she didn't want me growing up thinking the fact that I was ugly was a problem. Not being vain is nice on the surface, but it's a far deeper issue to me, she didn't fit the beauty standard and therefore, because of the opinions and biases of others, she saw herself as inherently ugly and her daughter, with her DNA, would naturally be ugly as well. In her eyes, neither of us are beautiful, we are just naturally ugly, seeing ourselves as beautiful is off-limits, ugly women like us just have to learn to value ourselves for reasons other than beauty, rather than find self love and appreciate some inner beauty which radiates out or finding beauty in the interesting features of our faces.
It's a shame because she clearly has a deep sadness and inswcurity about believing she is an inherently ugly person, and that kind of persistent self hate can definitely dampen inner beauty, and it ended up developing into some kind of NLOG energy over time, she really talked bad about women who enjoyed fashion, makeup, or anything to do with outer appearances.
i really appreciate you sharing your experience here; i grew up with a very similar dynamic. i, too, would like to feel beautiful, even if my family doesn't see me that way......
That's so cruel and sad... 💔
You go ladies! You rock the world and we your sisters need you!
Who cares how you look...😠
You all are 100% beautiful, period. Even in your worst days. 🥰
And you make all of us stronger. 😍
You go shine bright and show them. 💪🏻
Just know we love you exactly as you are and we have your backs everyday. ❤
The only compliment my mother ever gave me was to call me pretty lol
But that was when I was thin.
So she complimented you on your skills and achievements... right? Right?? Please tell me she complimented you on your skills and achievements.
Also, to make you feel better about not having had your mom call you beautiful: opposite situation isn't much better.
My mother used to be very vain about the fact that she was very thin.. until she rapidly gained weight. No one in our family was ever thin. We come from a deep ass-end of Belarusian countryside, and we're all built like workhorses. She resented it, and from her teens, she starved herself to be "pretty". As we all know, starving yourself doesn't work, and of course it didn't for her - her poor body began hoarding fat.
So she switched her attention to me. I was now her "mirror". Now I had to "keep" my figure. She'd doll me up, and stare at me, and say things like "you look exactly like me. I was so beautiful. I can't believe how beautiful I was".
It brought me to the point where I was ready to violently destroy my own face just to not look like her. I spent years changing everything about myself and yet I still flinch away from mirrors whenever I feel like I look like her. All my photos are taken in heavy makeup that changes my face as much as possible. Occasionally I still think about plastic surgery - not to become more "beautiful", but to remake myself into something radically different from her.
Recently, I've been trying to practice body neutrality, and I'm slowly making progress into accepting myself. To anyone who has hard time with body positivity - I can't recommend it enough!
Whoooaa this resonated with me because my mother is the same way in terms of how she was treated in the past, her poor self image and how she limits and looks down on herself. The only difference is that my whole life she's done the opposite of your mom and praised me for being "prettier than she ever was" even though I look just like her minus twenty years, and every time we're together and someone remarks on how much I look like her, she always says something like "I'm sorry she had to take after me" and it has always made me so incredibly sad. My mom has never been ugly or anywhere close to it in my mind, she's just an extremely sensitive person who was bullied for most of her life by her family and her peers, and she internalized the hate and the fatphobia so much that it's impossible to convince her otherwise. I've been trying since I was a child and to no avail.
I was surprised when I saw this come out on Netflix. I read it years ago along with the Hunger Games and always thought it should've been the bigger dystopian story but it is more relevant now so the timing worked out
the hunger games is more high quality , and makes these points as well
The conclusion I got from the movie... is the more you focus on how you look and how pretty you are... you look away from what is going on in the world. The world is dying and people only care about BBLs. The more you base things on your looks, the less substances you have. How deep can you be if you lurk on the surface. I went to a small collage and the people around me had surgeries...I could not have a deep conversation we with them because it all came back to looks and how I needed some.
yes i agree ! , people are becoming dumb and stupid day after day, teenager are drawn and distracted by stupid things such as ideal beauty and infinite reels, forgetting bigger problems such as the death of children in wars, environmental pollution, etc.
Last year I went to a different dentist to who I usually see because my regular dentist was on leave. I was in for just my routine check and clean and this dentists went on to tell me everything that is wrong with my face, from fine lines, to sagging, to sun, spots to thinner, uneven lips. She then went on to say she can give me threads, a non surgical facelift, a vampire facial and lip lift, as well as baby Botox all for a small fortune of 5-10k
I just wanted my teeth checked for no new cavities and a clean. I left feeling so ugly I actually cried when I got into the car
What the actual?? Why would a dentist go to tell you everything wrong with you and try to sell you on doing all of this to "fix" yourself in ways not at all related to your teeth?! I'm so sorry they did that, completely unprofessional and unbelievable way for them to behave
I'm so sorry you went through that! That dentist was really pitching for the extra business they do on the side, weren't they?
@@amw6846 yeah I think they just finished their extra study for cosmetics and was ready to make some money off people's insecurities
Ew wtf , I would have cried too. I’m so sorry babe , that psycho is just trying to make $ . I saw another comment say report them , I would second that , but don’t reopen wounds if that would be too difficult. It’s terrifying that a dentist is doing these procedures anyways , that can’t be right or done well.
That happened to me too at the dentist I had been seeing for 10 years. I left that day crying and never went back.
It’s kind of scary how much this book series was able to predict certain aspects that are present in social media and society today.
Except the everyone is happy and there is no conflict part!
I think working with patients in a hospital has helped ground my perceptions about what is a "normal" appearance. I see wrinkles, fat deposits, scars, roughened skin and so many other variations of the human body. However I am my own worst critic and have really had to work to normalize my own aging face and body. I also rarely go on Instagram and don't have a TikTok account. I know of one influencer who has stated she only follows women over 50 to help normalize her perceptions. I think working to expose ourselves to people who aren't filtered to the max is helpful in combating this perfection obsession our culture has given us.
I love Tiktok for educational purposes. Just swipe away the prettiest and only stay for substance. It works. Believe me, there's a reason everyone is against it and the government is trying to get rid of it. You can learn about the world directly from the source.
I love Tiktok for educational purposes. Just swipe away the prettiest and only stay for substance. It works. Believe me, there's a reason everyone is against it and the government is trying to get rid of it. You can learn about the world directly from the source.
It's important to remember when watching a movie or someone famous and they look beautiful that it's tons of makeup and a hair stylist. And often a lot of technology that filters their flaws. Most people feel ugly, but most people are not ugly. I personally think every woman is beautiful in some way. Thanks for the video. Always interesting to hear your insight🧤
I was listening to Conan O'Brien podcast a few months ago and one of the guests was a female comedian or an actress(shamefully I can't remember her name) and she told an anecdote how she was doing some show and young girls approached her and told her that she was very pretty and they want to be like her. She then took her extensions and makeup off to show them that it's all just showbusiness magic. Parent of those girls thanked her.
@@TearfulMoon that's awesome. Those girls are gonna remember that for the rest of their lives
@@AuntieMamies yeah it's SO often styling or just expensive products. I've been acquaintances with plenty of semi-professional models, and most have pretty bland, ordinary faces which can be styled in different ways. Not like they look bad or anything, but you would never guess out of all the makeup and lighting.
I have gold eyes (technically the term is "Amber"), and I get so many "are you wearing color contacts" comments, which increased after the Twilight movies and now I fear they'll increase again after this movie. Everyone wants gold eyes, no one wants to be asked "are you wearing color contacts" all the time.
Same
I had a friend when I was 13 with golden/amber eyes. I was always so jealous lol I had never seen anyone with eyes that colour before. She also had stretch marks that she was super insecure about but I always thought looked so cool.
I have a little gold because I have (actually fairly common) central heterochromea, and in highschool a kid asked me if they were my real eyes. I guess he meant contacts? It's such a weird and accusatory question, plus be real, like you can't tell if someone is wearing color contacts, if you're looking for them you can actually see them. I saw a woman once with gold eyes with a turquoise ring around the outside. Gorgeous. But I didn't say anything, because I can be normal, and like, just because it's positive doesn't really mean you should comment on someone's appearance? Like, maybe their hair? idk.
The way you’re positioned in front of your mirror makes it look like you’re haloed by the sun like those medieval paintings of saints
Omg yessssss!!!! Byrony is such a goddess
Once when I lived in L.A., in the aughts, I had to get some headshots. The makeup artist told me “you know your face isn’t symmetrical, right?” I told her her observation and comment were poorly timed as my asymmetrical face would likely now be on my mind for the entire photo shoot.
I’m good with my asymmetry though. I appreciate unique beauty!
A perfectly symmetrical face is pretty rare, isn't it? Seems like a stupid thing to point out to a person. What a jerk!
What a bad ass comeback !!! Symmetry can also look like a robot . Godamn tho what a shit makeup artist
Omfg I hate that! I'm a makeup artist and whenever people comment things about their OWN face, I try to reassure them that whatever thing bothers them isn't nearly as obvious to anyone else. I try to make people feel more confident and comfortable when they leave my chair, not to make them have new concerns they didn't even have before.
@@eponinesg well I wish I would have had you doing my makeup at that time! Hopefully by now, this person learned her lesson and has been more supportive, or changed her career.
So many people have this issue. More girls than guys because a lot of girls don't get positive reinforcement in other fields like guys do. I've asked many girls I know and they all say they have low self esteem. And it just shocks me because if I had what they had, I would never have that issue. It just goes to show you how your upbringing can really impact how you see yourself. And how social media makes influences you how you see the world. Because a lot of these girls have the idea that their worth is based on how other people see them. Not what they accomplished.
I think you'd be surprised at just how many guys struggle with the same, but don't feel free to talk about it. Most of my guy friends, cis and trans alike, all struggle with body image issues, some having developed EDs because of it. They are all people who most would consider successful, and are complimented accordingly, but as humans, most of us want to be attractive. It goes beyond gender, even though the beauty industry is targeted towards women. On the guy side, we have a similar thing where the protein powder, supplements, and gym is heavily pushed. It can cause huge self image issues seeing tall, buff men that is widely not achievable due to them being dehydrated, working out to an extreme, etc.
I absolutely don't say this to imply men have it worse by any stretch, simply that as humans we all struggle with wanting to appear in an unattainable ideal way, just like the movie is showing.
Exactly. The other good qualities we have as women are tied to how beautiful society sees us as. We're allowed to be valuable in society in our intelligence, strength, kindness, etc only if were conventionally beautiful also.
Guys still have the same problem, we're just not allowed to talk about it. Either you buckle down and fix it, shut it, or if your genetics wont let you get there: pin it 💉
I read all of these in middle school thankfully. Definitely helped with loving the “non perfect” aspects of myself. We are all beautiful individuals. ♥️
Wow. I just found Uglies and Pretties on my book shelf this morning going through my books. I guess I found my next read. ❤
I think I’m already on my journey with letting go of these ridiculous beauty standards but this was a good reminder!! I appreciate you speaking on it bc I think a lot more ppl need to think abt how dystopian and unrealistic the standards are. Hoping more ppl embrace more realistic beauty standards or abandon standards of beauty altogether.
DID NO ONE WATCH THE TWILIGHT ZONE? lol this is exactly where this was always going. Number 12 looks just like you! And I wonder if the pig mask was a reference to the eye of the beholder.
i went to see deadpool & wolverine at the cinema with my sister, and at the shirtless scene she just went " thank you hugh jackman for sacrificing your health for this"💀
NGL, changing eye colors was one of the aspects of the uglies universe that I found *super* appealing. (I read the books before my chronic pain was really making itself known - I'm guessing the books would hit a *mite* differently now)
I'm kind of surprised I haven't gotten into colored contacts, because I really love the idea of being able to change my eye color around. I'd pick deep, deep purple. Or dark grey. Or dark green, but a more uniform green than what I currently have. Or possibly a full sclera tattoo black, because freaking people out would be fun. (Though obv that wouldn't be much of a popular choice in the world of the uglies universe)
I deleted tiktok because my body dymorphia got so much worse (it was during covid). It started out as looking at cool outfit ideas and then realising they didnt look the same way on me.
I remember reading the first and second books of this series as a child! Hadn't realised it was a movie now too.
Thanks for another great video, it's interesting to reflect on how a dystopian sci fi future in 2005 hits uncomfortably close to the bone in 2024
The movie just came out 2 days ago, I believe
I've been a viewer for quite some time and never really commented on anything as far as I remember, but I need to thank you. You talk so in depth about all sorts of important and progressive stuff on this channel and it makes me so happy to know that you are also vegan. What a great example you are setting for your viewers. 💚🌱 I'm grateful for all the educating you do out here! 🧤Thank you.
Great video!!! Please take care of yourself and have some time off, we all love you ❤️❤️🎉
I actually got so excited when you mentioned Dom, his videos are awesome. Also I just started the video and I’m already being reminded of growing up and in school the girls would always ask each other what plastic surgery they want when they grow up. I always got weird looks when up until I was 9 I said I didn’t want anything, then by 9 years old all I wanted was a double mastectomy (I developed incredibly early, it was hell, would’ve been for anyone, but especially as a trans guy). I was told repeatedly I should at least get a nose job which was really frustrating because my nose is one of the few parts of my body I never had an issue with, but people have been determined to make out like my nose was horrific or something because it’s the one thing besides my weight that others have complained about when it comes to my appearance. One of my ex’s even said for my 18th he’d pay for a nose job if we were still together. Thank Thor I’m with someone completely different now
Also - One Amethyst purple eye and one bright green eye, like supernaturally green but not dayglow green, both with silver flecks. I always do that combo when I have the contact lense. When I have the energy to wear them, lol
Thank you for speaking on long COVID🙏🙏🙏🙏
Never even heard of the book or the movie, but now I am interested! People in certain industries and politics seem to use sci-fi dystopian works as inspiration and roadmaps rather than cautionary tales...
As for eye color change, I don't know which one I would choose. All colors are pretty, so... I'd go with one that changes according to my mood. If I'm feeling zen, my eyes go silver; if i'm pissed, they go pitch black, and so on 😁
This sounds like a cross between an old Twilight Zone episode called Number 12 Looks Just Like You, with elements of Logan’s Run and The Stepford Wives.
Goes to show these issues have been around for a long, long time
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I don't read nor watch movies, I appreciate Bryony for going beyond a Cliff Notes video by analyzing the varied medium of a particular story (Film and Literature) as I love stories though my own arts and practice keep me from investing the time she does so graciously.
Thanks!
I read those books when they came out but I never realized, until I heard your summary, that it could be analyzed as an apologea for capitalism and "pulling yourself up by your boot straps".
I thought this book series was fascinating, back in the day. Thanks for the video! My 1st and favorite Scott Westerfield book is called 'So Yesterday'. It was written in 2004 about teens who get paid by corporations to be 'cool hunters'. What really is cool, trendy, fashionable??? It's giving social media influencers...🧤 I forgot about the significance of the gloves in the book. Guess i may need to re-read
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So intrigued by this author now , thanks for mentioning ❤
I won't watch this yet, because you're so adorable and you've immediately convinced me to watch the movie/ read the book. I love your videos and I want you to know how beautiful you are. I know you "know that" but I wish you more moments of KNOWING that than questioning it.
An ironic (yet sad) thing is before I transitioned and assumed I'd grow up to live the life of an allosexual lady, I had some body dysmorphia. I'd critique everything about me because others said that would keep me from getting a boyfriend (my family were my biggest advocates bc they also went through the same thing when younger). After transitioning I have a whole new can of worms but I love the body I was born with and frankly find it gross that I'm still expected to look 'nice' or 'attractive' for other people.
The one thing I have always wanted from this series is the moving tattoos.
My friend worked on this movie! They're in sound department but were low on background people so they had to be in the movie! You can spot them going down the stairs in the trailer.
No one has given you any roses for your outstanding reenactment I see. Here you go 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Another great video btw! :)
Maybe I’m not a good person, because, I do think most people are average. Not ugly, but not pretty. Pretty and ugly people are both rare-and I’d even argue that it’s rarer to find someone who is truly pretty, surgery or natural.
The whole thing will never fully stick with because not as single one of the "pretties" looks good to me. They look just plain weird. Like this uncanny valley mix between a real human and a wax statue.
Young boys are actually breaking their jaws in order to achieve the perfect jawline.
Anyone else heard of this?
the framing of the video with the mirror haloing over your head is just *chefs kiss*
This series was my favourite in my teenage years!
Omg I didn’t know the movie was out yet. I’ll definitely say that the first book was the best and that it should’ve stayed a trilogy and other than the overall message of the first book I really like the world building and I think that it’s a good YA book to get into to understand how a story isn’t just a random fictional story but an overall social commentary.
Saw this on my Netflix recs, guess I’ll watch it then come back for ur commentary :)
I remember never wanting to be part of the "pretties", but of the "specials" - oh to have that kind of enhanced body 😍😍
Also, the tranformation didn't go far enough in the movie - in my mind, the pretties looked alien-like. So deformed that you had to have a strange beauty standard to be able to bear it.
It's that too perfect look that looks uncanny and less human.
I have small breasts and, although I was averse to the idea or surgery, I was born in the last 1990s. Every celebrity had big boobs, and that made me really self-aware. Then Ariana Grande, Jade (Little Mix) and others came along, and that discomfort was gone - I mean, not totally, because a lot of clothes are designed for larger breasts and that makes me a little sad but, overall, yeah, it's gone. I never liked the way I look in pictures either, so a rarely take them. I don't think I'm ugly, I'm just not photogenic - and I think we should use that again. You can be pretty and still not look good on camera.
I never actually took part on visual social media (IG, TikTok), but I understand that young people might feel like they don't have any other options.
I liked the movie watched it yesterday. Can barely remember the book(s).
In the movie I couldn’t tell the difference that was supposed to be in the face with before and after and I tried so hard. But I’m faceblind so I really didn’t get the difference 😅
When I read the book I imagined they made the eyes big like doll eyes and stuff. And I thought the specials had more cat like eyes and stuff from the description and all that. But in the movie I don’t think it was made that way? But maybe I’m too facblind to have noticed it. 😅
I would choose deep purple eyes. I think the hex code is #34003A, I had a hurdy gurdy made and painted that color. 🧤
The difference with Peris was very significant I thought, as when you see a before his first surgery to when he gets turned into a special, his skin texture has that filter quality, his facial structure looks more angular, then of course the eyes are the same as Dr Cable's now. There was a decent difference with Shay, but that's mostly due to the body surgery (which was extreme) wig and makeup and eye colour combo. Both of them had an uncanny vibe post surgery due to filters i thought, as i think was the intention. Imo Tammy changed the least, she didn't give me the same uncanny vibes, just gold eyes, a bit of makeup, and that skin filter
Whilst watching the movie Peris reminded me of oli London 😭 @@BryonyClaire
Always appreciate your insight, Bryony. ❤🧤
These were amoung my favorite series when i was in middle school!
No shade to this book series or movie, in fact (for me in particular) this is really high praise, THIS MOVIE IS ZARDOZ
bryony you are a legend for that tldw 💐🧤
Well, dystopian fiction does shine a mirror up to society's social ills to reflect it right back at us... But this video was very informative. I never saw this movie or heard of it until now, but I get its message.
And if I could change my eye colour, I need or choose between having blue or green or purple for my irises.
honestly ever since i was a kid I've wanted brown eyes, I've always thought blue eyes are creepy and hated mine
That's so interesting! Especially given how much people are told to "love" blue eyes *cough eugenics cough*
I’ve always wanted brown too!
Blue is very common where I live so I thought they were kind of boring. I think blue is alright now, but I still would like to see brown on me :)
As a woman with brown eyes I've always wanted blue. Or green. I just feel like brown eyes are so boring and blue can be just piercing
My little brother is the only person I’ve ever seen with gray eyes. They are stunning.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful at all but referring to a natural eye color as "creepy" on a video that's centered around people struggling with their appearances maybe isn't the kindest move. You don't have to like blue eyes but you don't have to put them down either.
this was another amazing video, so glad your channel came up in my feed!! also solidarity from another covid conscious pro pal baddie
The series was fave of mine when it came out in my teen years and it still is in my mid-30s. Social media plays a part in later books but even without that aspect they still ring true.
I loved this video, thank you for making it :) have a good day!
That series was EVERYTHINGGGGGGGGG TO MEE 😭😭😭😭😭
Omg thank you for knowing what color mauve really is. You have no idea how happy that made me, lol.
I think it was an interesting casting/ adaptation choice - the main character is supposed to have squinty eyes, and they went with an actress who very much does not
I read the whole series when it came out, and even owned most of the books. Ive been fascinated with plastic surgery (as a concept) but would never get it for myself at this point in my life.
Thank you for the great video
I don't think I'd change my eye color at all, I've got like silver-gray eyes now, and I think they're pretty cool
Also, I've learned over time if I try to appeal to everyone, I will be no one's favorite. Better be way more specific and way more you, many will not like you, but the special few will find you faster, and remember you longer
Great timing! I watched the movie last night. I actually loved it. But it was so eerie how these are already things we have wrong in our current society.
The primary things that influence how people interact are love, power, money, fame and beauty. Beauty is unique in that its effect is also sometimes detrimental. Attractive people can be underestimated, overlooked and avoided too. Really interested in where this goes.
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your continuation of bringing up the pandemic and how it’s not over. It’s rough being a disabled and immunocompromised person and having people chastise me for wearing my n95 and just trying to keep myself safe and alive. It sucks. Especially with so many left leaning channels also just acting and talking like it’s over
I read this series 15 years ago in Primary school. It was an amazing book series. I believe there’s 3 books and they’re all as good as each other, I highly recommend reading them ❤
This is exactly why I decided to get off of social media (apart from TH-cam).
I'm not saying everyone else needs to do the same thing, but it has definitely helped me.
I would'nt change my eye color for a million bucks!
I'm Danish with eastern european and irish ancestry.My eyes are wolf-like icy blue and contrasting my black hair, I would'nt want it changed, e.v.e.r!
I've been told ut's rare to have a combination of naturally black hair abd icy eyes, so that's mine and I'm keeping it!
I am intrigued by this channel and this person cuz damn she's intelligent and actually made a deep research. and also the pace she talks is comfortable for me not to fast fwd 1.25x 😂😂 this is how people should talk in video essay cuz most likely you have the script. hate how people drag their words lmfao. anyway great insight and video!!
ps. when you make the ref of 🍉 and israhell are spot on 💀
🧤 I have not read the book, but I used to work in the YA section of a bookstore quite a bit, and this series always caught my eye! Speaking of eyes, I'd honestly keep my deep blue eyes because they're the same color as my dad's.
I have felt ugly in the past but my bigger problem is that I am boring and I look like it. Looks are fine but personality is so much more important to me. I've known people who photograph well but are absolutely ugly through and through.
Yo, fellow boring person here, can 100% agree on that. Like, I am in the best physical shape of the last 10 years of my life (not that I look good, simply that I am at a much healthier weight, and have a bit of musculature in my arms), but I'm still as boring as ever. 😔
@@genzo454 welcome to Dullsville. 👀
Your comment on being pro-science made me instantly subscribe. I have watched several of your videos, but you just made me very very happy ^-^.
I tend to watch your videos because I very much enjoy psychology and ED topics tend to be something I hyperfocus on. I am Autistic myself, and I do not have an ED, nor do I have body dysmorphia. I don't even really wear makeup because I have never been able to wrap my head around the idea of spending hours a day just to put makeup on and make my hair look perfect to go to a job where no one cares what I look like. I am amazed at what some girls can do, don't get me wrong, and I appreciate it on them, but as far as beauty standards, I just always felt they never applied to me, because I never cared enough-- outside of learning about it from a psychology standpoint.
Your videos are always well researched, well put together, and I really like the inside perspective you also give. Thank you for your content and love of science!
I loved that book series!
I highly recommend you read it if you haven't.
I read uglies in middle school I loved it ❤
The new run of this book came out in the US on my birthday and now I'm tempted to yoink a copy from my store and read it
Woah, I loved this series as a kid
So many cool new movies to watch on Netflix.
🧤 this was my favorite series as a middle schooler and if we don't get and Extras movie I will DIEEEE
🧤 thanks! 🧤
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I keep seeing tweets and posts about how people are missing the point by saying the actors aren’t ugly enough to be called ‘uglies’, but I would argue that if so many people are making that particular point (Scott Westerfeld himself addressed it in a tweet), then maybe the point wasn’t made clear enough either in the book or in the film adaptation. I read the book as a teen and again last year as an adult and the interpretation I got was that ‘uglies’ were just average looking teens going through puberty. I think it’s fair to say that the actors they chose to play the ‘uglies’ don’t look that different from the ‘pretties’ they just don’t have a full face of makeup and wigs on and don’t have the weird cgi filter put on them. I think this is going to become a pet peeve for me because the author shouldn’t have to tweet exposition to get the point across, the book itself should convey that. I also think the explanation is a bit of a cop out because the people in Hollywood who made this were never under any circumstances going to cast ‘average’ looking people so I just feel like the people tweeting in defence of it - and a lot of them are being condescending about it - are just doing far too much (it’s giving ‘you don’t have media literacy’ energy - also I’m not saying you’re giving that same energy at all just the tweets I’ve seen are). Like they really couldn’t cast any ‘uglies’ who didn’t have perfectly straight teeth or acne? And if the point is that they all look perfect but are taught to feel insecure about it I don’t get how that’s relatable to the average person who most certainly wasn’t born in the future with some kind of gene editing to make them look perfect but not TOO perfect, that doesn’t really make any sense to me conceptually from a reader’s perspective. If anything I identified with Tally more having envisioned her as looking like a normal awkward teen🤷🏽♀️
Anyway I had to get the wee rant off my chest (apologies😩) but I also wanted to say I really like your videos and I really appreciate how you share thoughts from your own perspective and add a lot of outside context, it makes for really interesting and engaging viewing, I always look forward to the topics you cover!
I get what you're saying, but I think the point that these area already pretty people is kind of THE point. That even people this genuinely naturally good looking aren't / don't feel pretty enough, because no one does. It's literally impossible to feel pretty enough without magic flower and actual brain damage.
@@StormSought to be honest with you I don’t think the ‘uglies were actually pretty the whole time but they just couldn’t see it thing’ really was the point of the books, I think they’re trying to spin that in the marketing now to save face because they weren’t brave enough to cast average looking people. That being said (and I said this in my earlier comment), even if that was the author’s intent I don’t think he got the point across clearly enough within the text itself which is evident in the audience reaction now. And even if he had I think that would be a rubbish and incongruous plot point, there’s much less pathos in already conventionally attractive people agonising over not looking supernaturally attractive. I find the concept of people who don’t fit within a certain beauty standard striving towards a harmful and contrived extreme more compelling and more relatable.
Also I don’t believe that because something is intended by the author that that makes it good or interesting (I’m not implying you are I’m just elaborating). For example, the author who ought not to be named (JK Rowling lol) wrote a whole subplot about how Hermione is stupid and wrong for wanting to end the enslavement of house elves. That was 100% her intention, but I think it’s a very ignorant, ham fisted, and frankly disgusting plot point. I don’t have to think it’s good or interesting because that’s the point she intended to make I’m like… yeah the editors should have told you to cut that entire thing out. That being said in a way I wouldn’t want to necessarily censor writers because things like this belie a lot of their worldview, and in the aftermath of her going full mask off with her transphobia people are looking back on her work and seeing her having bigoted attitudes isn’t a new thing at all. (Apologies for the tangent, I love book talk lol!)
@@mimimoonpie8190 I didn't read the books - I think they didn't have the first one at the library when I was that age - but certainly in real life the problem with an impossible ideal is that it's impossible. It might not be easy to empathize with people we see as being closer to that ideal, but no one is at the ideal naturally. It's literally not possible. And I think there's a tendency to resent people who are just a little bit closer instead of the system that makes us both feel like shit.
How have I not read this series yet?? I needed this video today it’s a sign fs
I watched it yesterday and now I wished i ready the book instead. Even though i still enjoyed the movie :)
🧤 --- color, I like the idea of a neat teal color.
As a man:
The biggest "game changer" for me was realizing that attractiveness has MUCH LESS to do with physical appearance & much more to do with someone's confidence & their sense of self-worth.
People who are "pretty" but fundamentally insecure are truly ugly. Whether they let that show through their choices to tear others down or by constantly needed to be told how pretty they are: that kind of behavior drastically changes how "attractive" they are.
What about people who are "ugly" and fundamentally insecure? They would be truly ugly too, correct?
🧤 never read the book or seen the movie but watched the whole video. I like my eye color now. They are blueish green.
I would rather be actually disfigured in a world where nobody gaf about how you look than be objectively perfect in a world where everyone is constantly disrespecting people based on how they look.
Even if you achieved perfection, people would still be more incentivized to be cruel and objectivifying about it rather than just normal.
Because you're still judging people your worth on your looks and in a hierarchy which leads to competitive behaviors, nobody wants to be the "loser".
Ooh I’m reading doppelgänger by Naomi Klein . I’m also really looking forward to your next video! That was precisely my parents , members of the Green Party and super environmentalists in the 90s and now extreme trump supporters with all the phobias and hate . Wild shit . I actually felt so not alone to know that this is sort of a common thing unfortunately, I could never wrap my head around it when I was younger, but as I understand the nuances of life more, I guess I do now. Ask me anything!
Pretty decent visual effects in the movie
Your hair is angelic today
I’m 6 minutes in and I can’t watch anymore because I really want to read the book now 😆 so, sorry for ditching but thanks for finding my next read for me!
Don't mind me, just commenting for the algorithm
I don't know what it is with me, if I'm some kind of freak of nature or I'm just autistic or simply born early enough. But I never truly hated myself. I say truly because I did use to at one point. And funnily enough I was angry at things that I either lost growing up or that some people didn't even notice about me. It was always that I had a round face and my eyes are uneven. My right eye compared to my left is slightly more open for some reason. And it took my brother 19 years to find out, one afternoon at the train station wearing contacts, after making me worried for a second about my right eye being swollen. I laughed at told him that was always a thing and I was quite baffled he had just noticed. And the other big thing was my round face I never had. I have more of a diamond/rectangular face actually (after having to stare at my id photo for my cv for ages yesterday). But in the end none of this really affected me. It was me directing it to my self because I was different from the other kids. I might say I'm lucky to be born during the wholesome years of the Internet and I only cared about origami videos or random crafts than looks really. I liked makeup because it's fun and colorful. But back then I was mostly doing it because others were and I wanted to fit in so badly. So I pretty much did what others did or thought was acceptable of me to do. So I'd have that leg up I never had when it came to making friends. But growing older, slowly loosing that dorky face and mentality a bit and having a good character development in my style is what led me to today. I'm aware I'm beautiful and some might even say I'm priviledged for it. But maybe it's the bullying for me. Maybe it's that people always used to be jealous of knowning that simply getting older and smarter makes me the way I am. I used to wear brown leggings with butterflies on them and a funky coral frilly top. I don't anymore. That is what made me look "ugly". The fact I couldn't express my style was the reason. Because I noticed the snarky remarks towards me were coming in more when I became more pretty. Tbh I still look virtually the same I did at 7 but with a better fashion sense so I don't understand why I suddently became a problem. I guess that girl saw me as competition. Anyways I now realize I'm beautiful not because I have almond eyes and medium sized lips or a diamond face shape or this or that. But rather because all those features make me who I am. Because if we go back to what I said earlier, those features alone are what made me "insecure" if we can even call it that. I say this as I didn't have it as bad as some other people and I'm not trying to gain sympathy or a bunch of people accusing me of fishing for compliments. But then again these features combined make me pretty. And I honestly see so many people I consider pretty that many would not because of this. And after being called pretty by some, even online I realized I like getting the compliments because I deserve them. But I'll let you be the judge: that's me on my profile pic i took this summer. Also I happen to have eurocentric features because well... I'm eurocentric. And for the weirdos, I'm not Asian (I get told that a lot in real life). I'm mostly identical to my Italian dad and barely look like my Ukrainian mom.
Personally, there are a lot of eye colors that I would find cool. Like silver, or smokey gray, or turquoise, or a neon cyan. All of those would be quite cool, but my natural eye color is nice too (it's a light, almost 'pale jade' green, but also with this irregular halo of hazel right around my pupil. It looks kinda unnatural, but in a really cool way)
🧤 Thanks for the great vid!
I read a blurb for the german translation years ago and it sounded interesting. But I didn't get around to reading the books. I would never change my eyecolour, I love the way my eyes look.
I‘ve read these books in my teenage years and it has been somewhat formative. Before reading them I was sure I am going to get a nose job to make my nose tip smaller. But after reading it and some years of experience I decided that I don’t need it.
thanks for the video - really enjoyed it :)
If I could change my eye colour I'd probably go with the colour on the cover for Peeps (another Scott Westerfeld book that I was *obsessed* with as a teen). It's a like a neon greenish-blue with a dark indigo ring.
I have a very complicated relationship with my body, and it probably comes close to dysmorphia at times. I avoid looking at mirrors because I don't like looking at myself, but at the same time my face is the least unliked aspect about myself. My weight has always been the hardest thing to like, because I went from skinny to fat very quickly and the small amount of "positive" attention I was receiving vanished (and giant boobs are only acceptable if you don't have a tummy to go with it, and they defy gravity, as told by cruel young men). The pressure to look effortlessly perfect (or to put every bit of effort into looking perfect) is immense, and I don't even seek out beauty or style guides. I can't imagine being a teenager in this social media environment, but I also can't imagine what it would take to change it short of a massive upheaval in perception
Purple eyes with orange and green flecks for me! maybe some sectoral heterochromia - I'm all about those Halloween colors