So this printer: -has no heated bed -can only print pla -has a small build volume -has to be tethered -has bad print quality -still costs 300 dollars And you still call it near perfect? I'm confused to say the least.
TBH makers muse leading with „they got nearly everything right“ and then presenting an absolute pig of a printer whose only redeeming qualities are cheap (tough you can probably get far better printers for the same money) and pretty (really, who cares?) leaves me wondering about the „quality“ of his reviews altogether...
For $230 you can get a xyzprinting davinci nano with a build volume barely smaller than this reviews turd, and it comes with a heated build plate, enclosure, part cooling fan, pla/abs/petg support and standalone operation.
Intro: Stay tuned because this printer is nearly perfect. First few seconds of review: This thing is beautiful and well engineered Next 8 minutes of review: The side load filament is meh, the build plate is meh, the leveling system is meh, the print size is meh, Ooooooo it has a cheep acrylic door with a key lock from a shitty cash box, being tethered really sucks, the print quality is meh, the control board appears to be 8-bit so have to run prints at .25speed to remove stuttering... Review Wrap-up: I really like this printer and hope to see updates because it is so great! WTF? I guess we can assume this is not produced by a Chinese company because if Creality produced this exact same thing, Angus would be frothing at the mouth with anger about not being finished, not being open source, and not being worth the money. Seriously? This is a more expensive, less useful version of the Monoprice Mini Delta with fancier injected plastic frame pieces.
The possibility of a ready to run 3D Printer aimed at a craft market segment excites me, but yes you're right it's got issues for sure. I don't personally care too much for open source if it's a well rounded product - my most used machine is the closed source up mini 2 from 2016. The Monoprice Mini Delta looks like it's worth investigating tbh, that's a significant price difference!
@@MakersMuse even an AnyCubic Kossel looks so much nicer (Auto bedleveling, bigger bed, heated bed, linear rails, socketed stepper drivers .. ) an its much cheaper
I had the same reaction. "Nearly perfect" yet in the first few minutes he mentions more missing features and let downs than I can mention in this comment without it becoming a boring run on sentence, but somehow it's just the control board that makes it not "perfect". Huh?
The monoprice mini delta is much lower quality than this machine, I promise you. It's cute, but very, very cheap. This may not have bells and whistles, but the components look nice
Love the idea of a reskinned, simplified Cura (something like Flashprint) with integrated TinkerCAD type CAD. That alone, with easy to import printer profiles would open 3D printing to tons of people.
So they got everything right, except build plate, bed heating, extruder, print speed, control board, print quality, software support, standalone operation/storage media, interface, filament detection, power out recovery, filament holding, bed leveling, part cooling fan and filament type support.
Not really, just a better control board and maybe standalone operation. The rest is fine for a printer at this size. You don't really need failure mitigation when running 3 hour prints. If the power goes out, start over. No big deal. I have a high dollar professional printer that is missing power off recovery. Now that is a problem.
that super slow print has stunning surface quality to it :O With heated bed, 32bit controller and onboard storage of any sort, this could be truly amazing printer
I did some research into this printer after it was shown off here initially... here is what I found out. The Alta itself is a heavily modified Print-Rite CoLiDo D1315 Plus. It uses a proprietary hotend unit, as in you have to replace the entire thing if you need to replace the nozzle. That being said, it does perform very well from what I have heard. The printer does NOT have a part cooling fan, the motherboard does have a header for one but it is disabled in firmware. The Alta Plus coming out next year is confirmed to have a part cooling fan. The printer motherboard is 8-bit arduino based from what I can tell. It's running Marlin 1.0 and is fuse locked to prevent tampering with the firmware. The motherboard also has spots for a bed heater and thermistor, but they are unpopulated. It also has what I believe to be headers for a SD reader and possibly a display/controller. But again, I believe these may be disabled in firmware. Here is the helpful post where I got a majority of my info. :) community.ultimaker.com/topic/23530-cura-support-for-silhouette-alta-3d-printer/?do=findComment&comment=219062 Here is a up close picture of the Motherboard for anyone that might be interested in modding it. www.print-rite.com/product/mainboard-colido-d1315-3d-printer-%ef%bc%88updated-version-v2-x%ef%bc%89/ I really wish this printer had the community the MP Mini Delta does, because it is obvious it is a diamond in the rough and I think with a little community backed love it could really shine.
I really like mine. Being able to use the full version of Cura 4.1 made this thing sing. I think I can flash a different firmware on there. I may give it a shot.
@@christopherleveck6835 If you can manage it, try flashing klipper, that should take care of all of the printing issues from the board being 8 bit based. :D There was someone on the ultimaker thread that actually designed a part cooling shroud for the stock hot-end, but I haven't had any luck finding it online. :(
@@reluttr2 to my knowledge, I'm not having any "8-bit problems". Cura 4.2 wouldn't run right so I went back to 4.1 which works fine. I have two other very high end machines and this one keeps up with them ok.... I get decent quality and time to print isn't too bad... I find that with the door closed I have no problems getting the print to stick and no warping. I did have some stringing in the beginning. Fixed it by adjusting the speed and temp of the pla and no issues with cooling.... I just open the door when I want it cooler, close it when I don't.
because i think this product is designed not only for nerds or design students but for normal house holds, similar to to a inkjet deskopt printer which would be a gamge changer
Have been using this for about a month now. At standard settings any gradient surface ends up with bumps and blisters. Any part with finer details on the first layer needs a full bottom layer underneath as there is serious problems with bed adhesion. And just now the tension weel under the feeder sprocket broke off. The bracket holding it is made from thin clear acrylic.
I bought one of these as my first 3D printer and while it was good, very quickly I had issues with the extruder. Took it back and ended up with a Flashforge Finder. It has a lot of potential and I think the next iteration of it will be pretty damn good.
@@christopherleveck6835, do your kid a favor and get them an Ender 3 Pro. (The only caveat here is that they'll need to learn a few things. Like thermal runaway protection. But... Kids are supposed to be in the business of learning things, aren't they?) The Ender 3 Pro will set you back about $250 and is stunningly upgradable. There isn't much you CAN'T do with it, if you're willing to learn.
My choice was anet a6 on the sale ;}, I have it like 8 months now and I couldn't be happier. Firstly I had to put it all togather (it took like 4 days but was suuuuper fun )I learned all the parts and knew how it works, the first print was so exciting, came out like a shit with alot of zits and underextruded xD but I was the happiest person on the world, every day after I could find mod that I could do to it to make it better, and now I am very happy with every single print, every thing from the kit is working great and nothing broke to this day, the journey was a lot of fun, learned a lot, if I had a choice between kit to build and ready printer I would 100% go for kit I want to thank you so much
Can I give a bit of a tip to those that use painters tape? A tip I've never seen anywhere on any 3D info? Instead of using strips of the painters tape, which only come in a few sizes, use "application tape or transfer tape" designed for vinyl cutters. Get the paper stuff that's like masking tape and NOT the transparent plastic stuff. It comes in multiple sizes, so you no longer need stick bits together. Just lightly sand it (takes about 15 to 20 seconds) and wipe over with glue-stick. It's quick and easy to do.
I think you may have a problem with the control board or something because I don't have any artifacts or stringing or any issues at all really with mine. One thing I REALLY don't like though is that you can't change or even remove the nozzle for cleaning. It doesn't unscrew. And if you have ANY issue with the print head at all you have to replace the whole thing. I don't know if they are carrying more inventory now or not but when I first got mine it was from a guy on craigslist who tried to remove his nozzle to clear it and broke it not realizing it wasn't removable. He tried to clean it because he couldn't get a replacement head from alta. After waiting for a couple months they just sent him a new one. That's what he sold me. Sealed and new in the box. I ordered a new head to keep one on the shelf just in case, I haven't had to use it but it took several weeks to get it. So if the hot end, cartridge heater, nozzle or thermistor go bad, you have to replace the whole thing for 60-70 bucks.
Throw the gayer-anderson cat at it (scaled to fit) on default settings and see how you go i'm curious if it's just my machine. I tested it across several setups and found I had to drop the perimeter speed dramatically to remove the artifacts. www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-gayer-anderson-cat-at-the-british-museum-london-4010
@@MakersMuse I'll try it with the Alta 3d software but I would normally use Cura so it would be interesting to see if you had better luck with Cura instead. While I have your ear, thanks for the videos I've learned .maybe half if what I know about 3d printing from your channel and you enabled me to take a printer people thought was a dud and fix it to be a monster producer. Check out the Build one on kickstarter if you want to see a 750,000 $99 printer project that is going off the rails. Creator hasn't produced in 2 years and is offering 50% refunds. Including shipping which he will never pay.... deplorable.
The Monoprice Mini Delta has a similar build volume, and lacks the "training wheels software", but has a microSD 32-bit control board, a color LCD interface, auto-level, and a heated bed. It's not as elegant looking, but has exceptional print quality for 1/2 the price. I've seen beginners able to learn Fusion360 and Cura well enough to do their own thing without any help, so I think the learning curve is not as difficult as these printer makers would have you believe.
Thanks, Angus! Your videos inspired me to try doing a review. I think the reason it's not as big as other printers is that it's only sold by Monoprice.
I still exclusively use painters tape (even on the glass of my new Anet A8 Plus). Great stuff and rarely have anything pop off that wasn't the fault of a bad leveling.
Nice, I have the curio and looked at their 3D printer, but I guessed that it would be crap. Good to see 3D printers being brought to more different hobbies.
I have one of these and have had no problems since purchase over a year ago. Silhouette always update software and not just tweeks, but major updates. There's a lot more behind this machine in the software. Namely if you have one of their cutters and Silhouette Studio, you can design within Studio and send it straight to the 3D Stuido software for conversion ready for printing. One of the downsides to the 3D software is that you cannot export to STL or G.code for printing on other machines. I have other Deltas which obviously do more and are more tweakable, but the Alta and integrated software is as you say ideal for a first timer. I have heard through various sources and whispers that there is a new Alta and Cutters on the way in the Autumn. Always have a mooch on your channel as enjoy the professional and sometimes quirky content. Thanks from the UK
This is actually a rebranded 3d printer made by another company. Silhouette did a shell redesign. This was listed back in 2016 as the CoLiDo D1315 Delta 3D Printer, so the guts and parts are all the same. You can even buy a nozzle replacement from print-rite and it will work in the Alta 3D at 1/2 the price. What Muse said about slowing the prints is 100% true. However because there is no active cooling you end up with melting issues. This limits what you can print. For example once you print details smaller than 3mm and its a vertical print, such as an ear, it just melts into a swirl. You end up with hacks like printing multiples at the same time, or just placing a desk fan to blow into the enclosure. Their software was also too basic to tweak settings for better prints. You can turn to Cura but my wife purchased this at the time of release and no one was able to get it to work with Cura for months. My wife loves Silhouette products, and invested into this. However after an entire month I was so fed up of being her tech support so much so that I ended up buying an Ender 3. All she does now is load up Cura, picks a profile and prints. 9.5 times out of 10 it prints just fine. Honestly Silhouette is on the right road, but this V1 product is just that and they missed the mark. Don't buy this version. They have an Alta Plus version which has hit delay after delay, but it supposed be released soon and should include a fan and updated nozzle design.
Only one material possible, super slow, tiny build volume, not upgradeable, no sd card slot, no Wifi, no heated bed, expensive for the size. What year is it? This is useless. With that printing speed, it's also useless for schools. And they use a custom slicer where you can't adjust the settings, so it's also not good for teaching kids since they can't really learn how to print by tweaking print settings like in cura.
Yeah, i really failed to understand how Angus called this "almost perfect" in the intro. The rest of the video seems like an endless list of terrible design decisions and needless cost savings. The only good thing i can see here is the enclosure with the key and maybe the build quality, which i can't judge on my own just based on this video. I fail to see how this would make a good printer for first timers, but maybe it's just me.
most people value plug and play over customizability. I have an ender 3 pro and I wouldn't recommend that to anyone who doesn't want to tinker. there's value in simplicity.
@@AmeshaSpentaArmaiti Yes they value plug and play. But these people also value versatility. Like using different materials, different sizes or printing at a decent speed. This printer will be a constant disappointment to people who love simple solutions, a large mount of all the stuff they want to print will be not possible. I don't see a target group for this printer. If you want a versatile out-of-the-box solution, buy a Monoprice Select Mini v2 for almost half the price(180$).
@@Gromic2k I wouldn't have bothered commenting if I knew that printer existed. I also realized a little too late the implications of the printer being tethered. I still, however, see no problem in getting a printer that can only do PLA, and has limited customization.
@@Gromic2k The target market for this would be users already comfortable with the Silhouette ecosystem. The software works with their (extensive!) shop of pre-made designs for their line of vinyl cutters. This really isn't a 3D printer for enthusiasts, this is a 3D printer for crafters who are looking to branch out a bit into some additive work.
It feels like a printer that should have been released 3 years ago - everything feels so dated. We have so much higher expectations now, and the machines have improved to (somewhat) meet that.
It can totally be modded. There are pins for a bed heater and cooling fan... It can be loaded with other firmware if you want. Its infinitely hackable. You can use Cura on it. So you can mess with all the spice settings.
So pretty much the Tiko 3D, just that it works. It’s in a nearby store for approx $150 equivalent. Almost want to pick it up if it is relatively silent. Although the tethered USB sucks...
Just a quick note. The angle on the acrylic is not due to the kerf, but more to the focus length of the laser lens, and thickness of the acrylic. Using a different lens would result in less of an angel. That is if the laser they used could handle it.
Thanks for the review. I was on the verge of buying one because it's marketed to crafters (less technical & more user friendly), but having to be connected to my laptop for the entire printing time is a deal breaker.
I have 6 3d printers including flashforge and Prusa. I would never buy this for myself, however my wife uses the cutters and really likes the look of the Alta software. That alone along with the simple prints she would use it for makes it perfect for her. Having said that I’ve heard they have an Alta plus coming along, hopefully they make improvements to the bed, board and cooling then I’ll definitely be getting one.
The Monoprice Mini Delta gives you nearly the same size print area, a heated bed, a horizontal rather than vertical print spool holder, as well as SD and WiFi and for half the price. The USB Tether seems like a huge issue especially for a printer that is supposed to be easy to use out of the box. They seemed to want it to work more like a normal printer but without RAM storage rather than how nearly every other 3D printer works. Looks good though and I like the enclosed print area.
Watching first 2:22min... Almost did it to be perfect? No heating bed, only PLA.... Just a delta printer that looks like one of mine G2S but... uglier... and without SD card. What crafter would use this?!?!?!? Useless
My first thought was "I wonder if the board can run Klipper..." That could theoretically help smooth out the blobs by offloading processing to a Raspberry Pi, but that also means you'd be tethering it to a Pi the whole time. More optimal, but I don't know if it would be worth it.
While their cameo vinyl cutters can be used with a USB drive, I've never seen anyone use the option. IIRC, the competing Cricut cutters don't even have the option. Whether they deleted the USB option to save costs, or to simplify the process is hard to say.
I have just started looking into 3d printing to add to my crafting toolbox. I was looking at this one as i use many silhouette products. What would you recommend as the best beginners 3d printer with user friendly software. Thanks for any info
That printer definitely has some nice features. Fully enclosed with a key to lock it are nice features you don't get with most of deltas. One option to deal with the tethering issue is to use a Raspberry Pi running Octoprint but that starts to take the set up outside the realm of its intended target audience. Some of those other craft devices you showed at the start of the video looked to me a bit like an old style 2d plotter in how it behaved.
I got the Alta to work with Cura and Simplify 3D too, it's not true that you can run it with the Silhouette software only. Despite the fact that it does'n have a part cooling fan, it does a pretty good job. I haven't had the artifacts Angus showed in this video, so I can't tell something about that. Silhouette America merchandises the Alta as a PLA only printer, but I tried PETG as well and it did a good job. The missing part cooling fan isn't a problem here, as PETG doesn't need too much cooling. But in my opinion the huge drawback of this printer is that you have to have it connected to a running pc - this is the reason why I mostly prefer my other 3D printers.
I'm new to printing, (still on my first roll). And even I know that a heated bed is too important to omit to fit a price point. Surprised you didn't see that as unforgivable. With my PayPal discount, I got my Ender 3 for $169! I wouldn't trade it for two of those.
I don't run heat beds for PLA printing any more, it's almost never required unless printing at high infill in my experience. Ender 3 is definitely a better deal, but still requires a fair bit of assembly and set up.
@@billbyrd9845 Painters tape is a poor print surface in my opinion, it rips easily. There's other more durable surfaces for PLA on an unheated bed like buildtak or even PVA glue that work well and are more durable.
@@MakersMuse : I don't mean to belabor the subject, but tape, glue, all of that does cost some money, Adding a heat module from China is a one-time cost and a low cost at that. I don't see the logic in buying anything that works "as good" as a heated bed in a world where heated beds are available and cheap. I'll drop it now.
Honsetly kit printers shouldn't be that scary tbh. Most people can put together ikea furniture, and a tarantula PRO is about that difficult to get set up (cant speak for the ender or other kit printers, don't own em). The lack of heated bed, cooling fans and such a tiny print volume for that price are shameful, but then there's all the other crap like the design being so unique and unmodular, it only being able to use it's own software, and freaking tethered printing only. The print quality isn't exactly stellar either
Awesome review - loved it! I have had my Alta since it was released and I learned a few things from your review. Thank you. (It seems that many fellow commenters don't realize that this printer is aimed at someone like myself who has 0 experience with 3D printing. No assembly. Out of the box. Fully enclosed. Ready to use. I actively use Silhouette Studio software as a crafter with a Curio and a Cameo, so this was a seamless switchover to a software that allows me to import Studio designs into 3D. The Alta has given me confidence that I doubt I would have gained from using another 3D printer as my first experience.) Do you mind sharing which version of the software you were running during this review? I'm asking, because I've had this since its release and I must be running an older version of Silhouette 3D as my menus look a bit different.
Whilst newbies might like a printer with an integrated computer, I would prefer to choose my own. I've ran 2 printers on a Raspberry Pi simultaneously before, and I'm sure you could get away with one per core. I'm going to be putting a pi zero into my ender 3 using a buck converter so it's got octoprint from the start. Also is that how Australians say cache?
Woo I like that coiled hot end cable 😁. Shouldn't need to assume it's 8 bit, just look at the chips! The lack of storage is definitely a miss, especially when at least competition in the vinyl cutter space (Cricut) have lots of cutters with Bluetooth that you can run from desktop or phone.
Could you test the Monoprice mini delta? Its quite similar in architecture. But the resolution seems to be very good. It’s also really cheap. Tiny build volume though. Would love to see you opinion on in! Other channels just don’t cover it well enough.
Hey Angus, could you share your settings for the cat? I wonder how my printers will do the task. I'd think my delta woud burst thru this print within less than 3 hours with >75mm/s and 0.1mm layerheight.
Me podrian decir cuantas piezas pequeñas aproximadamente puedo imprimir con 1kg de pla? Estoy evaluando el costo que implicara y si realmente vale la pena la inversion.
I had the same issue of blotches on my 3d prints when I tried connecting a Raspberry Pi to my ender 3. Found a few options on forums that helped a little, but the best fix would be to replace the mainboard to a 32 bit one. Haven't done that yet due to my budget and I'm kinda worried I'll screw something up, so no octoprint for me for now.
With a sticker build sheet (pei, buildtak ect) best way to print nylons is to pva a sheet of printer paper to the bed, a whole lot easier (and neater) than using painter's tape and it comes off like a giant post it note, bonus if you (2d) print on the printer paper it will get transferred to the bottom of the final part.
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I don't have a laptop... just a PC. Tethered is how I prefer ALL my connections (keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor, etc).
If you want a cheap delta, I recommend the monoprice mini delta. I know I sound like a shill but I own two of them. The only things that printer lacks is a power button and consistency in part quality
No, the USB is presumably device-only, not host. Even if it had USB host and file system support, it would have been cheap to add an SD slot directly: even 8 bit boards can handle that.
I am surprised it took so long for this design to translate to 3D printers. Look up Hexapod machining. If the manufacturers took it a bit further, you would not need the support material. Very cool.
My Alta is well over a year and a half old. It's not a new printer by any means. The rostock (sp?) was a parallel printer like the Alta and those came out 2.5-3 years ago.
I looked that up, didn't know that delta robots date to the 80s but not surprised. This is Rostock, supposed to be the first delta 3d printer. th-cam.com/video/AYs6jASd_Ww/w-d-xo.html
The always tethered thing is a huge standard in the crafting cnc machine world. I don't know any machine that works untethered these days. It feels like they kept with that standard since it's designed for crafters, but i agree with you, this needs fixed.
Hello, I actually just bought this for cookie cutters only. But mine keeps saying the printer is disconnected. I have uninstalled it, reinstalled it several times. Any suggestions? Silhouette, unfortunately only allows chat and email as a means of "customer support". Many thanks!!
Thanks for the review. Will consider this printer in the future. They'd have to fix the tethered issue though, that's bonkers. Angus, i've been dying to see you review the M3D MICRO 3D printer. Do you think you might ever get the chance to do so or do you have any ideas on this printer?
Do you have any spare 3D printer to give away for an elementary school classroom? I would love to give my students a chance to have fun with 3D printing.
I found your videos very helpful when I got my first printer, but it seems like you are becoming more of a critic than a tutor or muse as such as time goes on. Be nice to see more "muse" or "inspiriring" style videos because you were a lot happier when you were creative. Sorry but now every video seems like an insult to some manufacturer and you always come across annoyed.
FDM 3D printer since april (CR10S Pro), if I had this money and considering all these no-go features to buy a new printer, I'd definitely go for a Elegoo Mars resin printer... If someone asks me what to buy as a 1st 3D printer, I'd recommend a Ender 3 because it looks like it's the best overall on 100% of all aspects when wanting to get in 3D printing. Thanks Angus for presenting this machine, I started playing with a Silhouette Graphtec plotter for making vinyl stickers like 15 years ago lol, but they really need to get their game up if they want to get in the 3D printer war... :(
@@goury they built a custom board from scratch already. It isn't as simple as just swapping chips, but if it's designed from the ground up to use a better chip, the cost isn't that much.
Are you sure the USB port is sending g-code and not step and direction pulses for the motor drivers? If the USB is sending g-code I cant imagine how the USB port makes any difference. Even USB 1.0 could transfer a couple MB g-code file over a few hours of print time. The smallest buffer would be enough to hold a few lines in advance. On the other hand if the PC is converting the g-code to pulses for the motors (doing the heavy lifting for the printer) and sending that over USB the result will be extreamly system dependant due to the need for exact timing. I believe the printers microcontroller is simply acting as a USB interface and breaking out the serial pulses to parallel for each motor.
I use 3m spray adhesive on blue painter's tape. I haven't had a single warp or lift since I started doing this. The software keeps the PC from sleeping. I dont get ANY over extrusion bumps on mine.
I've had a Silhouette Cameo 3 for a long time, I used it so much I wore out the downward force solenoids (which are not replaceable). I Love the thing. It _just works_. The design is simple, elegant, and intuitive if you have ever cut paper with an xacto knife. Silhouette does continuously improve the software, and I actually use the software to generate 2d files for a laser cutter and with a $$ upgrade you can export .SVG files that tinkercad and fusion360 ingest with no problems. (as well as inkscape illustrator and photoshop). Silhouette has tried 3d software in the past with miserable results (a 3d model maker app that just does not work). I was hoping their entry into the 3d printer world would take the same design approach. It looks like they made the same set of decisions. To those that list it's flaws. I would point out that Silhouette has a history of improving hardware over time. Prime example is the Cameo version 4 cutter will start shipping (reportedly) by october 2019. I hope they take your feedback to heart. But I gotta tell ya, the Cameo 3's untethered operation Suuuucked. Has anyone tried to drive a Silhouette 3d printer with octoprint?
The firmware might be at fault here. My micromake D1 (an old kossel clone by this point) isn't the that badly artefacted with a 8 bit board running repetier firmware. Although, having said that, I am considering upgrading to a 32 bit board. But just because the board that is in there is dying.
With all the R & D that went into this...... they really missed the mark with that control board, Deff should have been at least a 16 bit board with some form of card reader. For being such a good company lets hope they rectify this. Thanks Angus 😆
I'd like to see your thoughts on the Anycubic D (was known as the Predator). I've got one, but it was a project machine from the start so I didn't really bother to test it stock and went right to Duet, smart effector, bondtech bmg, mosquito magnum hotend, magball arms, etc. I feel like this machine doesn't get the attention it deserves, and generally Deltas don't get a lot of representation. 370mm diameter, 455mm height, 32 bit board, with a cloned titan extruder and cloned e3d hotend, for $600 msrp, but can be had around $400-450 on sale most of the time.
Come on... are you sponsored? This is a moment I start to doubt your integrity. For 300$ you can buy much more ‘sophisticated’ 32 bits Delta printer like FLSUN QQ-S. This thing is a expensive toy.....
Looks like a nice printer and would be cute in a school environment, would not be difficult replacing the board with a budget ramps 1.5/1.6 and re-arm board or any of the cheap new 32-bit boards, a bit sad it doesn’t have a heated bed and other bells and whistles but I am pleasantly surprised by the price, would have thought it was a $1,000 overpriced machine at a glance, great review and looking forward to seeing more in the future! I am a bit horrified by how few views your channel gets these days and would like to see that turn around
Everyone in the comments are so mean about this lmaoo. It's meant for housewives who do crafts at home, who want a plug-and-play machine to mainly print cookie cutters (I'm not being sarcastic, this is the main selling point). I own their Silhouette Cameo (paper cutter) and it also runs tethered. I've had entire sheets wasted because it got disconnected halfway... Not surprised their 3d printer would be tethered too LOL. Glad I saw this vid; guess I'll stick to my ender 3p.
It's shocking that we still don't have a plug and play hastle free 3D printer on the market yet. This was a great attempt but overall a failure. Hope they take this review seriously and get it worked out. It would be great to see craft hobbyists able to use 3D printers without having to make it a whole other hobby of its own.
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Coulda been an interesting printer, but they were probably designing for a certain price point and target market (aka, 'crafters'), hence the all-plastic construction and 'missing features'. And also why they tethered the computer to do the 'heavy lifting', rather than including the faster, and pricier electronics that Delta-style machines require.
FLSUN are shite, I bought a delta off them and it printed wonky and their customer service was shocking. It's currently sat in a bin bag in my spare room.
I just receive silhouette Alta and the load tab was broken. I speak with the company and they accept that it was broken but I am from Greece and they make a replace only with US address..... I found two pieces inside and I am sure they are from load tab....can you send me a picture from inside the part of load tab so I can fix it ? The company can't do that!!!!!!!
So this printer:
-has no heated bed
-can only print pla
-has a small build volume
-has to be tethered
-has bad print quality
-still costs 300 dollars
And you still call it near perfect? I'm confused to say the least.
TBH makers muse leading with „they got nearly everything right“ and then presenting an absolute pig of a printer whose only redeeming qualities are cheap (tough you can probably get far better printers for the same money) and pretty (really, who cares?) leaves me wondering about the „quality“ of his reviews altogether...
Could it be because it’s a paid review?
Its called getting a printer, a cuting tool and some Money to og With it!
For $230 you can get a xyzprinting davinci nano with a build volume barely smaller than this reviews turd, and it comes with a heated build plate, enclosure, part cooling fan, pla/abs/petg support and standalone operation.
Please add to the list
- no cooling fan
- 8 bit board
- embedding LGPL software in their slicer without publishing source code
Intro: Stay tuned because this printer is nearly perfect.
First few seconds of review: This thing is beautiful and well engineered
Next 8 minutes of review: The side load filament is meh, the build plate is meh, the leveling system is meh, the print size is meh, Ooooooo it has a cheep acrylic door with a key lock from a shitty cash box, being tethered really sucks, the print quality is meh, the control board appears to be 8-bit so have to run prints at .25speed to remove stuttering...
Review Wrap-up: I really like this printer and hope to see updates because it is so great!
WTF? I guess we can assume this is not produced by a Chinese company because if Creality produced this exact same thing, Angus would be frothing at the mouth with anger about not being finished, not being open source, and not being worth the money.
Seriously? This is a more expensive, less useful version of the Monoprice Mini Delta with fancier injected plastic frame pieces.
The possibility of a ready to run 3D Printer aimed at a craft market segment excites me, but yes you're right it's got issues for sure. I don't personally care too much for open source if it's a well rounded product - my most used machine is the closed source up mini 2 from 2016. The Monoprice Mini Delta looks like it's worth investigating tbh, that's a significant price difference!
@@MakersMuse even an AnyCubic Kossel looks so much nicer (Auto bedleveling, bigger bed, heated bed, linear rails, socketed stepper drivers .. ) an its much cheaper
I had the same reaction. "Nearly perfect" yet in the first few minutes he mentions more missing features and let downs than I can mention in this comment without it becoming a boring run on sentence, but somehow it's just the control board that makes it not "perfect". Huh?
The monoprice mini delta is much lower quality than this machine, I promise you. It's cute, but very, very cheap. This may not have bells and whistles, but the components look nice
Absolutely right! Already submitted my reaction in with a start to doubt his integrity seriously.
Enclosed and no heated bed? They missed out a trick there... as they could have made a really nice ABS type or similar printer.
isnt the heated chamber still under patent protection?
@@ericvauwee4923 Patent on a box with heating in it? I want off this planet... totally. :(
ABS is really a pain for sure. perhaps it should be stopped from being 3D printable
Nice that they call their slicer S3D so you don't get confused with an other slicer one the market 🤐
I use Cura with my Alta. Works really well.
@@christopherleveck6835 and what does this have to do with my comment?
Yeah, nothing confusing at all considering a lot of people use the S3D abbreviation.
@@Technology89 let's see. If the s3d was confusing to you, maybe "Cura" wouldn't be. I don't know, thought I was helping.
Relax.
@@christopherleveck6835 Wait, he is complains about the naming of the software. And your solution is what?
Love the idea of a reskinned, simplified Cura (something like Flashprint) with integrated TinkerCAD type CAD. That alone, with easy to import printer profiles would open 3D printing to tons of people.
I guess I'm kinda randomly asking but do anyone know a good place to stream newly released series online ?
@Waylon Bradley Flixportal =)
@Messiah Theo Thanks, I signed up and it seems to work :D Appreciate it!
@Waylon Bradley Glad I could help :D
So they got everything right, except build plate, bed heating, extruder, print speed, control board, print quality, software support, standalone operation/storage media, interface, filament detection, power out recovery, filament holding, bed leveling, part cooling fan and filament type support.
Don't forget, no part cooling fan!
Not really, just a better control board and maybe standalone operation. The rest is fine for a printer at this size. You don't really need failure mitigation when running 3 hour prints. If the power goes out, start over. No big deal. I have a high dollar professional printer that is missing power off recovery. Now that is a problem.
Also nonexistent hot end cooling that leads to very frequent jams on retractions.
@@goury the new version has a van now
I would put it in the "just another 3D printer" category
"just another bad 3D printer"
that super slow print has stunning surface quality to it :O
With heated bed, 32bit controller and onboard storage of any sort, this could be truly amazing printer
I did some research into this printer after it was shown off here initially... here is what I found out.
The Alta itself is a heavily modified Print-Rite CoLiDo D1315 Plus.
It uses a proprietary hotend unit, as in you have to replace the entire thing if you need to replace the nozzle. That being said, it does perform very well from what I have heard.
The printer does NOT have a part cooling fan, the motherboard does have a header for one but it is disabled in firmware. The Alta Plus coming out next year is confirmed to have a part cooling fan.
The printer motherboard is 8-bit arduino based from what I can tell. It's running Marlin 1.0 and is fuse locked to prevent tampering with the firmware.
The motherboard also has spots for a bed heater and thermistor, but they are unpopulated. It also has what I believe to be headers for a SD reader and possibly a display/controller. But again, I believe these may be disabled in firmware.
Here is the helpful post where I got a majority of my info. :)
community.ultimaker.com/topic/23530-cura-support-for-silhouette-alta-3d-printer/?do=findComment&comment=219062
Here is a up close picture of the Motherboard for anyone that might be interested in modding it.
www.print-rite.com/product/mainboard-colido-d1315-3d-printer-%ef%bc%88updated-version-v2-x%ef%bc%89/
I really wish this printer had the community the MP Mini Delta does, because it is obvious it is a diamond in the rough and I think with a little community backed love it could really shine.
I really like mine. Being able to use the full version of Cura 4.1 made this thing sing.
I think I can flash a different firmware on there. I may give it a shot.
@@christopherleveck6835 If you can manage it, try flashing klipper, that should take care of all of the printing issues from the board being 8 bit based. :D
There was someone on the ultimaker thread that actually designed a part cooling shroud for the stock hot-end, but I haven't had any luck finding it online. :(
@@reluttr2 to my knowledge, I'm not having any "8-bit problems".
Cura 4.2 wouldn't run right so I went back to 4.1 which works fine.
I have two other very high end machines and this one keeps up with them ok.... I get decent quality and time to print isn't too bad...
I find that with the door closed I have no problems getting the print to stick and no warping. I did have some stringing in the beginning. Fixed it by adjusting the speed and temp of the pla and no issues with cooling....
I just open the door when I want it cooler, close it when I don't.
Thanks Angus for impaling Silhouette defects like a boss 🐍🐍🐍 💝
I really don't understand why you started by saying this is a game changer?
because i think this product is designed not only for nerds or design students but for normal house holds, similar to to a inkjet deskopt printer which would be a gamge changer
Have been using this for about a month now. At standard settings any gradient surface ends up with bumps and blisters. Any part with finer details on the first layer needs a full bottom layer underneath as there is serious problems with bed adhesion. And just now the tension weel under the feeder sprocket broke off. The bracket holding it is made from thin clear acrylic.
I bought one of these as my first 3D printer and while it was good, very quickly I had issues with the extruder. Took it back and ended up with a Flashforge Finder. It has a lot of potential and I think the next iteration of it will be pretty damn good.
I never have any probs with my extruder, what did yours do?
Curious because I'm thinking about getting another one to send to college with my kid.
@@christopherleveck6835, do your kid a favor and get them an Ender 3 Pro. (The only caveat here is that they'll need to learn a few things. Like thermal runaway protection. But... Kids are supposed to be in the business of learning things, aren't they?) The Ender 3 Pro will set you back about $250 and is stunningly upgradable. There isn't much you CAN'T do with it, if you're willing to learn.
Christopher Leveck Get them one you gotta build, it’s a great learning experience,
@@ninetails6218 I have built two machines from scratch a polar and a scara.... but you are right you learn a ton....
The finder was my first printer. I was very happy with it.
My choice was anet a6 on the sale ;}, I have it like 8 months now and I couldn't be happier. Firstly I had to put it all togather (it took like 4 days but was suuuuper fun )I learned all the parts and knew how it works, the first print was so exciting, came out like a shit with alot of zits and underextruded xD but I was the happiest person on the world, every day after I could find mod that I could do to it to make it better, and now I am very happy with every single print, every thing from the kit is working great and nothing broke to this day, the journey was a lot of fun, learned a lot, if I had a choice between kit to build and ready printer I would 100% go for kit
I want to thank you so much
I would prefer the ender 3 over this any day.. and its cheaper.
Just gotta look out for the safety issues, but otherwise I totally agree.
And I love my ender 3 :P
This. there are plenty of cheaper printers that are far more flexible and practically as user friendly.
@@satan1149 Do you recommend any? Currently looking for one. thanks:)
Can I give a bit of a tip to those that use painters tape? A tip I've never seen anywhere on any 3D info? Instead of using strips of the painters tape, which only come in a few sizes, use "application tape or transfer tape" designed for vinyl cutters. Get the paper stuff that's like masking tape and NOT the transparent plastic stuff. It comes in multiple sizes, so you no longer need stick bits together. Just lightly sand it (takes about 15 to 20 seconds) and wipe over with glue-stick. It's quick and easy to do.
I think you may have a problem with the control board or something because I don't have any artifacts or stringing or any issues at all really with mine.
One thing I REALLY don't like though is that you can't change or even remove the nozzle for cleaning. It doesn't unscrew. And if you have ANY issue with the print head at all you have to replace the whole thing.
I don't know if they are carrying more inventory now or not but when I first got mine it was from a guy on craigslist who tried to remove his nozzle to clear it and broke it not realizing it wasn't removable.
He tried to clean it because he couldn't get a replacement head from alta. After waiting for a couple months they just sent him a new one. That's what he sold me. Sealed and new in the box.
I ordered a new head to keep one on the shelf just in case, I haven't had to use it but it took several weeks to get it.
So if the hot end, cartridge heater, nozzle or thermistor go bad, you have to replace the whole thing for 60-70 bucks.
Throw the gayer-anderson cat at it (scaled to fit) on default settings and see how you go i'm curious if it's just my machine. I tested it across several setups and found I had to drop the perimeter speed dramatically to remove the artifacts. www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-gayer-anderson-cat-at-the-british-museum-london-4010
@@MakersMuse I'll try it with the Alta 3d software but I would normally use Cura so it would be interesting to see if you had better luck with Cura instead.
While I have your ear, thanks for the videos I've learned .maybe half if what I know about 3d printing from your channel and you enabled me to take a printer people thought was a dud and fix it to be a monster producer.
Check out the Build one on kickstarter if you want to see a 750,000 $99 printer project that is going off the rails.
Creator hasn't produced in 2 years and is offering 50% refunds.
Including shipping which he will never pay.... deplorable.
The Monoprice Mini Delta has a similar build volume, and lacks the "training wheels software", but has a microSD 32-bit control board, a color LCD interface, auto-level, and a heated bed. It's not as elegant looking, but has exceptional print quality for 1/2 the price. I've seen beginners able to learn Fusion360 and Cura well enough to do their own thing without any help, so I think the learning curve is not as difficult as these printer makers would have you believe.
You can use Cura on the Alta.
The mini delta seems to be a machine that should be more popular for sure, you did a good video on it. I had no idea it was so cheap...
Thanks, Angus! Your videos inspired me to try doing a review. I think the reason it's not as big as other printers is that it's only sold by Monoprice.
What the heck!? They expect me to leave my laptop at home for 10 hours?
This literally makes the printer unusable.
Octopi
That's what I thought, but they force you to use proprietary Windows software.
I still exclusively use painters tape (even on the glass of my new Anet A8 Plus). Great stuff and rarely have anything pop off that wasn't the fault of a bad leveling.
Nice, I have the curio and looked at their 3D printer, but I guessed that it would be crap. Good to see 3D printers being brought to more different hobbies.
I have one of these and have had no problems since purchase over a year ago. Silhouette always update software and not just tweeks, but major updates. There's a lot more behind this machine in the software. Namely if you have one of their cutters and Silhouette Studio, you can design within Studio and send it straight to the 3D Stuido software for conversion ready for printing. One of the downsides to the 3D software is that you cannot export to STL or G.code for printing on other machines. I have other Deltas which obviously do more and are more tweakable, but the Alta and integrated software is as you say ideal for a first timer. I have heard through various sources and whispers that there is a new Alta and Cutters on the way in the Autumn. Always have a mooch on your channel as enjoy the professional and sometimes quirky content. Thanks from the UK
This is actually a rebranded 3d printer made by another company. Silhouette did a shell redesign. This was listed back in 2016 as the CoLiDo D1315 Delta 3D Printer, so the guts and parts are all the same. You can even buy a nozzle replacement from print-rite and it will work in the Alta 3D at 1/2 the price. What Muse said about slowing the prints is 100% true. However because there is no active cooling you end up with melting issues. This limits what you can print. For example once you print details smaller than 3mm and its a vertical print, such as an ear, it just melts into a swirl. You end up with hacks like printing multiples at the same time, or just placing a desk fan to blow into the enclosure. Their software was also too basic to tweak settings for better prints. You can turn to Cura but my wife purchased this at the time of release and no one was able to get it to work with Cura for months. My wife loves Silhouette products, and invested into this. However after an entire month I was so fed up of being her tech support so much so that I ended up buying an Ender 3. All she does now is load up Cura, picks a profile and prints. 9.5 times out of 10 it prints just fine.
Honestly Silhouette is on the right road, but this V1 product is just that and they missed the mark. Don't buy this version. They have an Alta Plus version which has hit delay after delay, but it supposed be released soon and should include a fan and updated nozzle design.
Very informative video. Love the added safety of the locking door.
Only one material possible, super slow, tiny build volume, not upgradeable, no sd card slot, no Wifi, no heated bed, expensive for the size. What year is it? This is useless.
With that printing speed, it's also useless for schools.
And they use a custom slicer where you can't adjust the settings, so it's also not good for teaching kids since they can't really learn how to print by tweaking print settings like in cura.
Yeah, i really failed to understand how Angus called this "almost perfect" in the intro. The rest of the video seems like an endless list of terrible design decisions and needless cost savings. The only good thing i can see here is the enclosure with the key and maybe the build quality, which i can't judge on my own just based on this video. I fail to see how this would make a good printer for first timers, but maybe it's just me.
most people value plug and play over customizability. I have an ender 3 pro and I wouldn't recommend that to anyone who doesn't want to tinker. there's value in simplicity.
@@AmeshaSpentaArmaiti Yes they value plug and play. But these people also value versatility. Like using different materials, different sizes or printing at a decent speed. This printer will be a constant disappointment to people who love simple solutions, a large mount of all the stuff they want to print will be not possible.
I don't see a target group for this printer. If you want a versatile out-of-the-box solution, buy a Monoprice Select Mini v2 for almost half the price(180$).
@@Gromic2k I wouldn't have bothered commenting if I knew that printer existed. I also realized a little too late the implications of the printer being tethered.
I still, however, see no problem in getting a printer that can only do PLA, and has limited customization.
@@Gromic2k The target market for this would be users already comfortable with the Silhouette ecosystem. The software works with their (extensive!) shop of pre-made designs for their line of vinyl cutters. This really isn't a 3D printer for enthusiasts, this is a 3D printer for crafters who are looking to branch out a bit into some additive work.
It feels like a printer that should have been released 3 years ago - everything feels so dated. We have so much higher expectations now, and the machines have improved to (somewhat) meet that.
3? More like 10.
"No modding potential"
pfft. Words you'll never hear from a true modder.
It can totally be modded. There are pins for a bed heater and cooling fan...
It can be loaded with other firmware if you want. Its infinitely hackable.
You can use Cura on it. So you can mess with all the spice settings.
So pretty much the Tiko 3D, just that it works.
It’s in a nearby store for approx $150 equivalent. Almost want to pick it up if it is relatively silent.
Although the tethered USB sucks...
Just a quick note. The angle on the acrylic is not due to the kerf, but more to the focus length of the laser lens, and thickness of the acrylic. Using a different lens would result in less of an angel. That is if the laser they used could handle it.
Thanks for the review. I was on the verge of buying one because it's marketed to crafters (less technical & more user friendly), but having to be connected to my laptop for the entire printing time is a deal breaker.
8 bit and tethered?? How long has this thing been in development?
My bet is 15 years.
I have 6 3d printers including flashforge and Prusa. I would never buy this for myself, however my wife uses the cutters and really likes the look of the Alta software. That alone along with the simple prints she would use it for makes it perfect for her. Having said that I’ve heard they have an Alta plus coming along, hopefully they make improvements to the bed, board and cooling then I’ll definitely be getting one.
The Monoprice Mini Delta gives you nearly the same size print area, a heated bed, a horizontal rather than vertical print spool holder, as well as SD and WiFi and for half the price. The USB Tether seems like a huge issue especially for a printer that is supposed to be easy to use out of the box. They seemed to want it to work more like a normal printer but without RAM storage rather than how nearly every other 3D printer works. Looks good though and I like the enclosed print area.
Watching first 2:22min... Almost did it to be perfect? No heating bed, only PLA.... Just a delta printer that looks like one of mine G2S but... uglier... and without SD card. What crafter would use this?!?!?!? Useless
You're correct, only useless crafter will use crap like this.
One of them is Anus, another one is his clone who pushes for it in the comments.
My first thought was "I wonder if the board can run Klipper..." That could theoretically help smooth out the blobs by offloading processing to a Raspberry Pi, but that also means you'd be tethering it to a Pi the whole time. More optimal, but I don't know if it would be worth it.
It looks good for an auto or grandma to make little customized things on occasion. The slicer/modelling software is half the product.
Yeah, they've cut some corners on the controller. I've seen older 3D printers that have to be loaded via USB, but never tethered. Huge bummer.
While their cameo vinyl cutters can be used with a USB drive, I've never seen anyone use the option. IIRC, the competing Cricut cutters don't even have the option.
Whether they deleted the USB option to save costs, or to simplify the process is hard to say.
I have just started looking into 3d printing to add to my crafting toolbox. I was looking at this one as i use many silhouette products. What would you recommend as the best beginners 3d printer with user friendly software. Thanks for any info
I like the un symmetrical framing you have evolved to in this video and the last
That printer definitely has some nice features. Fully enclosed with a key to lock it are nice features you don't get with most of deltas. One option to deal with the tethering issue is to use a Raspberry Pi running Octoprint but that starts to take the set up outside the realm of its intended target audience. Some of those other craft devices you showed at the start of the video looked to me a bit like an old style 2d plotter in how it behaved.
I got the Alta to work with Cura and Simplify 3D too, it's not true that you can run it with the Silhouette software only.
Despite the fact that it does'n have a part cooling fan, it does a pretty good job. I haven't had the artifacts Angus showed in this video, so I can't tell something about that.
Silhouette America merchandises the Alta as a PLA only printer, but I tried PETG as well and it did a good job. The missing part cooling fan isn't a problem here, as PETG doesn't need too much cooling.
But in my opinion the huge drawback of this printer is that you have to have it connected to a running pc - this is the reason why I mostly prefer my other 3D printers.
Could you help me? I have Silhouette 3d but Cura throws me an error every time i try a Silhouette file.
I'm new to printing, (still on my first roll). And even I know that a heated bed is too important to omit to fit a price point. Surprised you didn't see that as unforgivable. With my PayPal discount, I got my Ender 3 for $169! I wouldn't trade it for two of those.
I don't run heat beds for PLA printing any more, it's almost never required unless printing at high infill in my experience. Ender 3 is definitely a better deal, but still requires a fair bit of assembly and set up.
To@@MakersMuse: I'll give that a go.
If cool beds are adequate, what happened to your example in the video? After all, you did blame the bed.
@@billbyrd9845 Painters tape is a poor print surface in my opinion, it rips easily. There's other more durable surfaces for PLA on an unheated bed like buildtak or even PVA glue that work well and are more durable.
@@MakersMuse : I don't mean to belabor the subject, but tape, glue, all of that does cost some money, Adding a heat module from China is a one-time cost and a low cost at that. I don't see the logic in buying anything that works "as good" as a heated bed in a world where heated beds are available and cheap. I'll drop it now.
Honsetly kit printers shouldn't be that scary tbh. Most people can put together ikea furniture, and a tarantula PRO is about that difficult to get set up (cant speak for the ender or other kit printers, don't own em). The lack of heated bed, cooling fans and such a tiny print volume for that price are shameful, but then there's all the other crap like the design being so unique and unmodular, it only being able to use it's own software, and freaking tethered printing only. The print quality isn't exactly stellar either
I wonder if using something like Astroprint would make it better?
Ok, I have this and can not get the project off of the bed 😑. My first ever 3D experience so what are some tips and tricks to getting these off?
Awesome review - loved it! I have had my Alta since it was released and I learned a few things from your review. Thank you. (It seems that many fellow commenters don't realize that this printer is aimed at someone like myself who has 0 experience with 3D printing. No assembly. Out of the box. Fully enclosed. Ready to use. I actively use Silhouette Studio software as a crafter with a Curio and a Cameo, so this was a seamless switchover to a software that allows me to import Studio designs into 3D. The Alta has given me confidence that I doubt I would have gained from using another 3D printer as my first experience.)
Do you mind sharing which version of the software you were running during this review? I'm asking, because I've had this since its release and I must be running an older version of Silhouette 3D as my menus look a bit different.
Whilst newbies might like a printer with an integrated computer, I would prefer to choose my own. I've ran 2 printers on a Raspberry Pi simultaneously before, and I'm sure you could get away with one per core. I'm going to be putting a pi zero into my ender 3 using a buck converter so it's got octoprint from the start. Also is that how Australians say cache?
I hear the zero doesn't quite have the muscle for octoprint. Maybe if you're using an IP cam not tethered to the pi.
I'm running a raspberry pi 3 and connect through wireless.
So, custom code and not gcode compatible? otherwise could plug an octopi to it. now that's falling off the steep end in design.
Woo I like that coiled hot end cable 😁. Shouldn't need to assume it's 8 bit, just look at the chips!
The lack of storage is definitely a miss, especially when at least competition in the vinyl cutter space (Cricut) have lots of cutters with Bluetooth that you can run from desktop or phone.
Could you test the Monoprice mini delta?
Its quite similar in architecture. But the resolution seems to be very good. It’s also really cheap. Tiny build volume though.
Would love to see you opinion on in!
Other channels just don’t cover it well enough.
Hey Angus, could you share your settings for the cat? I wonder how my printers will do the task. I'd think my delta woud burst thru this print within less than 3 hours with >75mm/s and 0.1mm layerheight.
Sure, 0.15mm layer height, 2 perimeters, 3 top 3 bottom layers and 30% gyroid infill.
Me podrian decir cuantas piezas pequeñas aproximadamente puedo imprimir con 1kg de pla?
Estoy evaluando el costo que implicara y si realmente vale la pena la inversion.
Do you have to use the Silhouette 3d program or are the other compatible programs out there?
I had the same issue of blotches on my 3d prints when I tried connecting a Raspberry Pi to my ender 3. Found a few options on forums that helped a little, but the best fix would be to replace the mainboard to a 32 bit one. Haven't done that yet due to my budget and I'm kinda worried I'll screw something up, so no octoprint for me for now.
Can it be controlled by octoprint?
Have you ever printed on a mesh or paper? Or incorporated other things in your prints
With a sticker build sheet (pei, buildtak ect) best way to print nylons is to pva a sheet of printer paper to the bed, a whole lot easier (and neater) than using painter's tape and it comes off like a giant post it note, bonus if you (2d) print on the printer paper it will get transferred to the bottom of the final part.
I don't have a laptop... just a PC. Tethered is how I prefer ALL my connections (keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor, etc).
I have been printing tethered for like 4 years and have never had an update stop a print, only recently I got a duet wifi.
If you want a cheap delta, I recommend the monoprice mini delta. I know I sound like a shill but I own two of them. The only things that printer lacks is a power button and consistency in part quality
Would it work to plug a usb to sd-card adapter into the printer so that there would be no need to tether it to a computer?
No, the USB is presumably device-only, not host. Even if it had USB host and file system support, it would have been cheap to add an SD slot directly: even 8 bit boards can handle that.
@@rpavlik1 Oh yah, you are probably right, I didn't think of that. Thanks for answering my question
I am surprised it took so long for this design to translate to 3D printers. Look up Hexapod machining. If the manufacturers took it a bit further, you would not need the support material. Very cool.
My Alta is well over a year and a half old. It's not a new printer by any means. The rostock (sp?) was a parallel printer like the Alta and those came out 2.5-3 years ago.
I looked that up, didn't know that delta robots date to the 80s but not surprised. This is Rostock, supposed to be the first delta 3d printer. th-cam.com/video/AYs6jASd_Ww/w-d-xo.html
Can you do the review on the Alta Plus Please
Sandra Lugo I’m wondering what it’s like also. It has a cooling fan which is a plus, I just hope they’ve upgraded the board inside.
The always tethered thing is a huge standard in the crafting cnc machine world. I don't know any machine that works untethered these days. It feels like they kept with that standard since it's designed for crafters, but i agree with you, this needs fixed.
Hello, I actually just bought this for cookie cutters only. But mine keeps saying the printer is disconnected. I have uninstalled it, reinstalled it several times. Any suggestions? Silhouette, unfortunately only allows chat and email as a means of "customer support". Many thanks!!
Thanks for the review. Will consider this printer in the future. They'd have to fix the tethered issue though, that's bonkers. Angus, i've been dying to see you review the M3D MICRO 3D printer. Do you think you might ever get the chance to do so or do you have any ideas on this printer?
Do you have any spare 3D printer to give away for an elementary school classroom? I would love to give my students a chance to have fun with 3D printing.
So is it possible to upgrade it with 50 bucks buying a duet clone and a random display with sd support directly from china? I'd try it.
I found your videos very helpful when I got my first printer, but it seems like you are becoming more of a critic than a tutor or muse as such as time goes on. Be nice to see more "muse" or "inspiriring" style videos because you were a lot happier when you were creative. Sorry but now every video seems like an insult to some manufacturer and you always come across annoyed.
FDM 3D printer since april (CR10S Pro), if I had this money and considering all these no-go features to buy a new printer, I'd definitely go for a Elegoo Mars resin printer...
If someone asks me what to buy as a 1st 3D printer, I'd recommend a Ender 3 because it looks like it's the best overall on 100% of all aspects when wanting to get in 3D printing.
Thanks Angus for presenting this machine, I started playing with a Silhouette Graphtec plotter for making vinyl stickers like 15 years ago lol, but they really need to get their game up if they want to get in the 3D printer war... :(
Maybe using the Octoprint add to this?? Would that help?
interesting printer, sort of.
Thanks for sharing :-)
OOf. What would upgrading to a better controller chip cost? $1-2?? Seems like a really weird corner to cut for such a small cost.
Actually more like $10-30, but still
@@goury incorrect. Wholesale cost of 32 bit microcontroller chips can be as low as $2. More a proper ARM CPU you can get $5
@@meikgeik, if only you could use just a chip without anything else.
But you can't.
@@goury they built a custom board from scratch already. It isn't as simple as just swapping chips, but if it's designed from the ground up to use a better chip, the cost isn't that much.
@@meikgeik they didn't, they just cloned another one that was available
Are you sure the USB port is sending g-code and not step and direction pulses for the motor drivers?
If the USB is sending g-code I cant imagine how the USB port makes any difference. Even USB 1.0 could transfer a couple MB g-code file over a few hours of print time. The smallest buffer would be enough to hold a few lines in advance.
On the other hand if the PC is converting the g-code to pulses for the motors (doing the heavy lifting for the printer) and sending that over USB the result will be extreamly system dependant due to the need for exact timing.
I believe the printers microcontroller is simply acting as a USB interface and breaking out the serial pulses to parallel for each motor.
Great Review Angus. Cheers
It would make one hell of a terrarium....!
I use 3m spray adhesive on blue painter's tape. I haven't had a single warp or lift since I started doing this.
The software keeps the PC from sleeping.
I dont get ANY over extrusion bumps on mine.
won't it be too thick?
I've had a Silhouette Cameo 3 for a long time, I used it so much I wore out the downward force solenoids (which are not replaceable). I Love the thing. It _just works_. The design is simple, elegant, and intuitive if you have ever cut paper with an xacto knife. Silhouette does continuously improve the software, and I actually use the software to generate 2d files for a laser cutter and with a $$ upgrade you can export .SVG files that tinkercad and fusion360 ingest with no problems. (as well as inkscape illustrator and photoshop). Silhouette has tried 3d software in the past with miserable results (a 3d model maker app that just does not work). I was hoping their entry into the 3d printer world would take the same design approach. It looks like they made the same set of decisions. To those that list it's flaws. I would point out that Silhouette has a history of improving hardware over time. Prime example is the Cameo version 4 cutter will start shipping (reportedly) by october 2019. I hope they take your feedback to heart. But I gotta tell ya, the Cameo 3's untethered operation Suuuucked.
Has anyone tried to drive a Silhouette 3d printer with octoprint?
The firmware might be at fault here. My micromake D1 (an old kossel clone by this point) isn't the that badly artefacted with a 8 bit board running repetier firmware.
Although, having said that, I am considering upgrading to a 32 bit board. But just because the board that is in there is dying.
If they update it with your recommended changes I'd be ready to buy asap lol
With all the R & D that went into this...... they really missed the mark with that control board,
Deff should have been at least a 16 bit board with some form of card reader.
For being such a good company lets hope they rectify this.
Thanks Angus 😆
Hi there. When will we see a review on the Flashforge adventurer 3 printer and maybe a Anycubic predator.
I'd like to see your thoughts on the Anycubic D (was known as the Predator). I've got one, but it was a project machine from the start so I didn't really bother to test it stock and went right to Duet, smart effector, bondtech bmg, mosquito magnum hotend, magball arms, etc. I feel like this machine doesn't get the attention it deserves, and generally Deltas don't get a lot of representation.
370mm diameter, 455mm height, 32 bit board, with a cloned titan extruder and cloned e3d hotend, for $600 msrp, but can be had around $400-450 on sale most of the time.
Sorry to go off topic, and I'm sure you've been asked this before, but where did you get that modular wall light?
They're called "Nanoleaf light panels" as far as I am aware
Come on... are you sponsored? This is a moment I start to doubt your integrity. For 300$ you can buy much more ‘sophisticated’ 32 bits Delta printer like FLSUN QQ-S. This thing is a expensive toy.....
Was there ever a doubt?
Either this or some sort of mental illness, probably due to brain damage caused by inhaling all this resin.
Looks like a nice printer and would be cute in a school environment, would not be difficult replacing the board with a budget ramps 1.5/1.6 and re-arm board or any of the cheap new 32-bit boards, a bit sad it doesn’t have a heated bed and other bells and whistles but I am pleasantly surprised by the price, would have thought it was a $1,000 overpriced machine at a glance, great review and looking forward to seeing more in the future! I am a bit horrified by how few views your channel gets these days and would like to see that turn around
Does Silhouette get this feedback? And if they have, did they respond?
So does this save or allow you to import STL files?
Everyone in the comments are so mean about this lmaoo. It's meant for housewives who do crafts at home, who want a plug-and-play machine to mainly print cookie cutters (I'm not being sarcastic, this is the main selling point). I own their Silhouette Cameo (paper cutter) and it also runs tethered. I've had entire sheets wasted because it got disconnected halfway... Not surprised their 3d printer would be tethered too LOL. Glad I saw this vid; guess I'll stick to my ender 3p.
It's shocking that we still don't have a plug and play hastle free 3D printer on the market yet. This was a great attempt but overall a failure. Hope they take this review seriously and get it worked out. It would be great to see craft hobbyists able to use 3D printers without having to make it a whole other hobby of its own.
Would it work with a Bluetooth dongle ? Could you try that ?
You are my legend and i will explain you why and dont think i want promote my chanel.... Because evrything start with you!
I was interesting about 3d printing but newer think to buy it i go on youtube where i find many your videos many your explanations so i decide to buy my first CR 10 s4 i was happy to trying but i must say i have many many problems with that printer... Many solutions i found by you i was totally beginer... You insoired me trying new materials my prints was so crapy long time so i buy ultimaker 3 and afcorse i buy a working horse.... From time i have it i buy also priusa because i see it on your videos and i see its work great.... I learned with you how to improve my prints how to use thinkercad haha i never forget so stuoid easy for beginers and later i start with fushion 360 (still busy with learning) you open my word to creativity eaven if im still for my self beginer... I try with timelapse i love it to look so one day i decide to make my ovn youtube channel whitch one is afcorse in begining and i dont care how many views i get... But you was my motivation from beginning and i want to thank you very much
Small videos like your can change people life at least is change my one!
Coulda been an interesting printer, but they were probably designing for a certain price point and target market (aka, 'crafters'), hence the all-plastic construction and 'missing features'. And also why they tethered the computer to do the 'heavy lifting', rather than including the faster, and pricier electronics that Delta-style machines require.
For an extra $130 AUD you can get a Flsun QQ-s on ebay, heaps more volume but most reviews tend to compare it to a CR-10. Any thoughts or opinions?
FLSUN are shite, I bought a delta off them and it printed wonky and their customer service was shocking. It's currently sat in a bin bag in my spare room.
have u reviewed the alta plus?
I wonder how octoprint would handle that tethering issue.
Saw this one for sale. Went with an FLsun QQS pro. Still in the mail so Weill see how it goes.
I just receive silhouette Alta and the load tab was broken. I speak with the company and they accept that it was broken but I am from Greece and they make a replace only with US address..... I found two pieces inside and I am sure they are from load tab....can you send me a picture from inside the part of load tab so I can fix it ? The company can't do that!!!!!!!
Whats a good printer at a good price to make helmets and masks
so its a good platform for modding, replacing the board with one that can run like a "normal" delta and support a heated bed..
It is not
silhuette alta : i'm the best printer for $300
kossel, ender 3, i3 mega : am i a joke to u
Would you be able to review the CoLiDo DIY 3D printer?