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- Badge Engineering is when one company makes an agreement with another, and gets to market a car they did not design as their own. Automakers do this all the time for different reasons. Today, we’re going to learn why.
Join Nolan as he checks out some of the okay-est and worst “badge jobs” in history, because there aren’t many good ones.
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"Yeah...I own an aston." - 150 Toyota owners in the UK.
Some say the Cygnet was a gift to the mistress. :P
LMAO
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Title translation: How GM scrambles to make a buck and fails miserably every time
Chad Bell not really
chevy ss was made to fail and wasnt an actual failure. they just wanted to sell them off before pulling the plug on holden
They've had some successful ones.. lol the Chevy LUV was an Isuzu faster... Lol the metro and tracker were Suzukis and they lasted a long time... The Silverado/Sierra and Colorado/canyon do pretty well.. hell all of the GMC truck and SUVs are rebadged Chevy truck and SUVs..
This video could be all about GM. They've done this constantly over the years.
Zero Ninety it could be their tagline because they’ve done it so much
Gm: Hey dude can I copy your homework?
Literally every car company: Yeah man just don’t make it obvious you copied it.
Gm: Ok
Every car company: Dude you just changed the name from mine to yours.
Yeah and I made different color options
GM: stfu you dumbass i already own you and most of your friends. What you do is already my property. I do what i want. MURICA.
American public: Falls for it every time
My car is better because it's a Myota 123. 😁
No dummy, it's the same exact car as his Yournda 321 . . But with different hubcaps . And a $3000 markup.
🚗 💸 🤒
Curt Brockhaus so you just automatically assume everyone is from the us or something? I’m irish lmao. Also yes I know that this was a funny joke I was making, don’t take it too seriously
I’m rebadging some Yankee candles and selling them at the flee market this weekend
Curtis Campbell Nike!
Where do you plan to flee to? Will you be touring with a traveling flea circus?
Ronald Schild thanks dad...
You're welcome, "son".
LMFAO
The title should be "who really made your car: how GM shot themselves in the foot...multiple times."
SONICR It wouldn’t have been that bad if gm marketed the Holden’s as holdens
SONICR yeah they're like Microsoft of auto industry , whatever they touch turns into shit after a period
GM: the death of GM one car at tme time
With a rocket launcher?
Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
The entire gmc, Cadillac, and Buick lineup is literally a rebadge job
So is lexus and Toyota
I can see that with gmc but not the entire Cadillac and Buick lineup and definitely not Lexus and Toyota
@@aloseronline4659 the only Lexus's based on Toyota's are the ES, RX, GX, LX, UX and NX
byron Rideaux that’s still 6 models that have been re baged
Yonathan Goldberg well Buick is literally just some opels. And if you look side by side. An encore from Buick is a shiny Chevy trax. Also I like the Cadillac designs but they are way to cheap on the interior. As well as the most of the lineup having Chevy versions. I feel that luxury brands should start from the ground up with minimal parts sharing like “”the old Cadillac “”
I feel like everyone is forgetting the Toyota Yaris and Mazda 2
Miguel López
Well yeah, the Mazda 2 Sedan doesn’t exist in the US, and the Toyota Yaris hatch doesn’t exist either, so it works out
The example you should have used is the FRS, 86 & BRZ
Literally the same car with three different badges all sold in the USA
Time For Car actually the Yaris hatchback does exist in the USA, I think it was just added
Miguel López
The Mazda 2 just isn’t sold in the US anymore, my mistake
I guess it sells better as a Toyota
Makes sense
What doesn’t make sense, is Subaru and Toyota literally making the BRZ at the same time, and selling them in the same countries
Time For Car agree; yeah it doesn’t make sense same thing happens with the chevy tahoe/suburban and GMC Yukon they are both the same thing basically just a different logo and a few different details but I think it has to do more with brand bias, some people want to have a brz but don’t want to buy a Subaru bc they prefer Toyota reliability so they get the gt86 and the same thing the other way around with Subaru buyers
Who? 😂
men·da·cious
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Yep, got it, badge engineering. It's like when a bloke wears a T-Shirt with a Lamborghini badge on it. Yet, you know that really he's all about VANS.
Man, I would love it if GM went and imported a fleet of Holden UTEs and rebadged them as a new 2018 El Camino
On 20 October 2017 it ceased manufacturing vehicles in Australia
Anthony Webber then GM could buy the blueprints and a few of the models they still have on the show room floor, bring over here for the Geneva auto show, see what the public thinks after a small redesign
i wish they would do that or something, i'd love to have an El Camino
Yeah that would have be great but the 25% chicken tax would make importing the Holden too expensive.
William Rutkowski
GM could of done the same thing as they did with the Chevrolet Sonic, and build it here in America
Good example as a DSM guy is Eagle Talon, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser, or the 3000 GT, and Dodge Stealth. Thanks for covering this topic. It's obvious to people like us who work in the automotive industry but unfortunately, most "non-car guys" are so particular about badges it drives me crazy. At the end of the day, most OEMs work together, most OEMs use same tier 1's and those tier1's source material from the same tier 2's........
The chevrolet cavalier was a bad car (EVEN FOR A ECONOBOX) but the toyota cavalier is wrong, really wrong
CZeroMedia those are all just trash in different cans
corvette 86_97 i remember the Toyota Cavalier LMAO.
3000 by and stealth are not dsm lol
Boastful Boost why not?
“Was powered by an anemic I4” proceeds to show a 2.8L V6 💁🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Still anemic
R.I.P Steve Irwin
Patrik Anđić RIP Holden too. Even though I'm a big Ford fan, it's a shame GM didn't market the commodore as well as they could have, it was superior to whatever local equivalent they had...
too soon
RIP PETA
He definitely did not say "Son of a gun." :D
Ford Ranger, Mazda B-Series
Mazda and Ford worked together a whole lot through the 90s and 2000s
plus they weren’t bad cars
Chevy Luv
I use a low mileage one owner -00 "Ranger" 2.5TD 4x4 as my service truck and I find it hilarious that this is de facto a Mazda B2500, produced in the very same factory in Thailand and the only differences are things with Ford logo like the driver airbag, radiator grille/mask and the wheel hub covers. The entire engine and drivetrain and electronics (sans the Ford cassette player that I changed very first weekend) and frame and chassis and entire interior are just the same car. Now why on earth would the same truck be sold under two names in the Finnish market and why did this grandpa buy a Ford for several thousand euros higher pricetag than the very same truck had as a Mazda?
We'll never know but here I am with a Ford that has nothing to do with Fords X-D
@Sam S thank god Mazda is independent now. Look at their cars! They have really nice interiors, great reliability and an amazing driving experience. And of course they have the legendary MX-5/Miata depending on where you live.
I actually like the saab 9-2x
several people are typing...
saabaru gang where y'all at
What I love about the Saabaru is that it's a Japanese car, branded as a European car, but only sold in the North American market.
Me too, I had one & I liked it. But I wasn't fooled about what it was, and I didn't have any problem with it being a Subaru.
Hell yeah, Ill take my 5mt 92x aero over a wrx anyday
I love it, but ist sad that the key ist in the wrong position for a Saab. So sad that they dont sell the car here (in europe)
The SS failed because GM didn't care about it and definitely didn't care to advertise it.
Peyton S. They just sold it to fulfil a commitment to open up holders plants until they become a full time rebadge importer. They definitely didn’t want it to succeed because that could mean keeping those factories open or having to reopen a new production line in North America.
true, i thought it was a better looking Malibu all these time until i saw youtuber review saying it is discontinuing
FrankW1029 it wasn't based of a Malibu
it is a holden commodore. was just making fun of the look and marketing by GM
ayy, regular car reviews
k n o w l e d g e
Well, my thoughts about Donut Media
Nolan: Chill and patience
Bart: Crayzee sience 🌀🌀🌀
Tony: 2000's teens culture
Matt and Odi: REAL Motorsports
Pumphrey: Braaaaaaahhhhhhhh !!!!
Pretty much acurate
Nguyễn Lê Đức Dương Chris and Ryan?
Julian Vargas Actually, I didn't watch their show, can u tell me what show ?
Nguyễn Lê Đức Dương Their show is "BlackOut" They've been in other mini series here on Donut
Julian Vargas hmmm, actually, that show is a little weird because it's a little messy, but it's a cool show after all
The little Ford Festiva hatchback has weird badging issues. It was designed by (Mazda Mazda 121), built by Kia (as the Kia Pride), and sold in the states by Ford (Ford Festiva), because they thought americans wouldn't buy a korean built car, so they slapped Ford on it.
Or something like that.
And they sold production line to Iran so... Saipa Saba
in Europe, they were sold as Fiestas
What happens when you take a hideous car like the Pontiac Aztek and add some GM Magic? You get the Buick Rendezvous
Gabriel Correa
thats a lot of magic, because the Pontiac Aztek and Buick Rendezvous is based on the
Buick Terraza, Chevrolet Uplander, Pontiac Montana and Saturn Relay mini vans
Gabriel Correa do you realize Pontiac/Buick/Chevrolet/Oldsmobile are all General Motors?
86, BRZ, and FR-S.
p e r i o d
I don't think these are badge engineering because Toyota and Subaru develop the car together, and Scion is owned by Toyota.
It was a joint venture not a rebadge
don't know if it counts, as it was a collab.
oof, forgive me for my stupid mistake
Elongated Muskrat you are excused
Nolan: but nobody in American wanted a Holden
Me & Literally everyone i know: I wanted An SS
I just got a 2004 GTO, so I guess I wanted a Holden too.
I want a g8 so i definitely want a holden
Yes but back in 2006 nobody likes holden
@@suspeh I wanted a Ute, but Chevy didn't care enough to rebadge them as an El Camino for the states.
Move to Australia holdens are dirt cheap here
Calling the Tesla Roadster 'just a rebadged Lotus Elise' is pretty deceiving. The roadster while developed from the Elise, it ended up sharing very few parts. If I recall correctly, there is a quote from Tesla about how they changed so much of the car, they wish they had started from scratch as it would have been easier, and possibly cheaper too.
It’s really a melting pot, with parts from Ford and even GM.
It doesnt even use the same power source. Its electric
@@maspunchnath7487 it doesn't have to
yeah, the Roadster is based on the Elise, not a rebadged Elise. The fact that the Roadster has a longer wheelbase than a normal Elise should be enough evidence.
Ive a couple of hairs you havent split yet....there was Lotus elise there somewhere? If the answer is yes you need say no more.
How about Chrysler making the neon under 3 divisions? And not even bothering to change the name lol
There was a Plymouth/Chrysler/ and Dodge neon.
Plymouth Colt
Mitsubishi Colt
Dodge Colt
This exactly what came to mind when I thought of rebadging
Don't forget about mitsu eclipse, Plymouth laser, and Eagle talon
Chrysler is the laziest rebadger
You also forgot the dodge sx 2.0
The obvious ones:
Silverado/Sierra
Yukon/suburban/escalade
..aka St. Peter Hearse SUV
Rod Chandler actually I shouldn’t be this technical but
Yukon/Tahoe/Escalade
Yukon XL/Suburban/Escalade ESV
I haven't seen anyone mention these two but:
Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis
Isuzu Hombre (basically a rebadged Ford Ranger and Mazda B Series).
@@WatchDog-wr9kd don't forget about the marauder variant of the Crown vic
GM again. Chevy LUV was a rebadged Isuzu and so was the first Chevy colorado slash GM canyon which are both Isuzu I series trucks.
Up to speed on the Toyota Corolla
Its on the AE86 video
Go look for it
In Japan, Toyota makes minivan called Noah, Voxy, and Esquire, which is same car under different name badge, they also share its small car named Tank as Toyota Roomy, Subaru Justy, and Daihatsu Thor. Daihatsu give their Kei car to Toyota and Subaru, Nissan sell minivan named Serena as Suzuki Landy, Suzuki sell its Kei-cars as Mazda, and give Mitsubishi a small car named Solio. Meanwhile, Nissan's commercial estate named AD Van, is also available as Mitsubishi or Mazda. Mitsubishi and Nissan made a company that produces Kei car for their own. Meanwhile, Mitsubishi Fuso, a commercial vehicle manufacturer introduced its new truck named Great, which is re-badged version of Mercedes Benz Actros. Long story short, only Honda don't do badge engineering.
Holy crap, that´s one heck of a map!
Honda rebadged the Isuzu rodeo in 1994
Toyota also makes a minivan called the isis
Lmao
'Honda don't do badge engineering' ?? Acura? Same company but still badge engineering, not to mention Honda have been in bed with Isuzu, Rover, Triumph just to name a few....
Honda also did a badge engineered version of the LandRover Discovery.
Called the Honda Crossroad
I LOVED the revived GTO I It is my go to car in NFS underground 2 which I still play to this day!
Shout out to the saabaru
Mitchell Jackson hahahaha! Yes!
Mitchell Jackson lesbian vaper
what makes me facepalm about GM bringing rebadged Holdens to America is how they don't bring the models that aren't similar to other cars/competition.. So rather than attempting to bring the Monaro or Commodore to the states, GM needs to bring the unique Holden Ute or Holden Maloo to the states.. There would be absolutely zero competition that looks similar, they can even call it the Chevy El Camino and resurrect that long dead style of a pick-up truck fitted to a car.
I have a strong feeling they would be popular cars with teenagers and young adult males in America, it's an aggressive looking vehicle and many models with very impractical and extravagant amount of Horsepower driven to it's rear wheels (no weight over those wheels), so makes for ridiculous burnouts with loads of fishtailing. Everything a young teenage boy wants. Plus the styling in general you can tell would be something Americans would like: www.topcarrating.com/holden/2017-holden-ute-hsv-gts-r-maloo.jpg
Too bad they don't make them anymore.
i agree and i want a new ute, however i recognize that like maybe 3 people would actually go to a dealer, and buy it, with money. unfortunately teenage boys aren't buying a lot of new cars. i mean hell i am an adult male and i dont have that kind of money, i just drive my 13 year old hoopty saab lol
they couldve even brought in the holden commodore wagon wouldve been good as who doesnt want a v8 wagon
Coarsoldier what do you mean I’m Australian and the Ute is super common (and fast) it’s the ideal Australian sports car for the ideal Australian worker.
One day I would love to have a VF2 Maloo... One day.....
The VW Audi Group do this a lot. The MQB platform is probably the most well known and used for a huge percentage of the cars sold by VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat. I have an NJ Fabia on the PQ25 platform, which basically a polo, ibiza and a1 (though the ibiza and a1 use the slightly older PQ24 chassis from the older polo). This isn't a bad thing as the styling is completely different between each brand. Audi being expensive and luxury, vw being sensible and premium, seat being sporty and skoda being the cheaper sensible car. The best part about it is the cheaper brands have the same cool tech, similar handling and the same engines from the expensive models which is a huge win for the average consumer.
I wouldn't say that the SS having been a Holden hurt it. Things that hurt it way more:
1. Boring Styling. It looks like it's just a $45,000 malibu, the most boring car on the road
2. BORING STYLING. It's supposed to be a performance car, I can't stress this enough.
3. Naming it the "SS" "SS" was always just a trim level. Which led to the few non-car people I know that were aware it was a thing, thinking it was a trim level... of a malibu
4. BAD MARKETING. They didn't even try. Sure, they used it for the body of their NASCAR cup car. But we live in a time of significant disconnect between NASCAR and road going cars. And that's about it. John Q Public had no idea this thing even existed.
I know I know. "But it's an understated sleeper"
You know what understated means? Boring. So does sleeper.
The other big issue with you kind of did state was people would walk onto a GM lot and they look at it no one knew what it was GM did not advertise it or market it at all and someone like you said would say I was at a Malibu know it’s an SS what’s an SS? They killed there own car
You were so close but yet so wrong, do you even know anything about Commodore's.
The same thing killed the GTO. Darn thing looked like a 2 door Grand Am or Grand Prix. No advertising. I love sleepers, but sleepers don't excite the average car buyer.
All good points, especially #4. We couldn't even find good press footage for this video because it seems Chevy didn't bother making any.
Up to speed on the TOYOTA HILUX
Jason Voorhees its in the 4runner video
Thomas John Solidum yea but he touched on it slightly, he didn’t mentionanything about the hilux other than it’s a pickup, it’s more than just a pickup
All the “Geo” Brand like, Geo Metro, Geo Tracker, that actually were Suzukis
I've owned two geo prizm's over the years, because they were re-badged Corollas. They were great cars that not many people knew about so they were also cheap at the time.
I have a Geo Prizm ministock racecar! The only issue with a Prizm, is it's lack of power and a heavy weight.
In 1989 my parents wanted to buy another Toyota after totalling their Camry. They were frustrated that Toyota had raised their prices. Buying a comparable Prizm was cheaper. And it was an early model that was built in Japan by (I assume) Toyota themselves.
Saabaru
06 92x Aero is a VERY desirable SAABARU!!! Much better and more rare than the 05.
I had a 05
No. The Chevy SS and the (new) Pontiac GTO didn't sell well because GM priced them WAY out of the middle-classes reach. They were SUPER overpriced. The anticipation for the release of the (new) GTO was off the hook when GM announced they were bringing it back. People were going INSANE in anticipation for this car. And then they saw the price tag. Holy shit. Hell, I was making low six figures back then and even I didn't want to spend that kind of money for it. Typical GM. They did the same thing with the SSR.
NorthernChev I think SS the right price it was GTO that was way over priced
Yeh i wanted to buy a ss but it was way to expensive for that car would rather buy a mustang or camero with that money
The SS never got any advertising either, so you basically had to be an enthusiast to know it even existed. I work for a chain of dealerships and we have a 2014 triple black SS on our Kia lot and I want is so bad. I just don't have the money or the space to bring her home.
Even in Australia those cars are ridiculously priced and thats why they arent being made anymore sadly.
totally agree great cars but over priced , even a used G8 is a bit pricey
You forgot About the whole Volkswagen Lineup = Skoda/Seat Lineup Situation the seats and skodas in this case are usually a few Grand less expensive.
They probably never heard about Skoda in US =)
Try Malaysia. Honda Accord, Mitsu Lancer, numerous Dihatsu/Toyota compacts gets the new badge slap because import tariffs.
Yes, Skoda and Seat are not sold in the US so they are not commonly known by most of the Donut audience.
Joshikun that isnt rebadging tho. Different interior and exterior
yeah but partssharing all over the place, apart from the design inside and out, wich was given as an examble of rebadging in this Video, everything in These cars is the same engine, Chassis etc.
Just bought myself a Pontiac Vibe, a rebadged Toyota Matrix
I had one, too. I called it a Pontiota Vibrix. It came out of that joint venture factory in Fremont, CA that Elon Musk bought.
That's also available as a Lexus CT
Erock Init Lexus CT is not based off the matrix...
Best Pontiac ever made lol
Mazda 2? not in America..... Scion IA... oops we’re going out of business.... Toyota Yaris IA.... wait let’s clean that up.... Toyota Yaris Sedan!
In Puerto Rico, the car was sold as a Mazda2 and a Scion iA/Toyota Yaris iA simultaneously.
How about the tragedy of Lancia? A rally legend who's sole purpose is to sell rebadged Fiats and Chryslers in Europe
Marco kwan sad story...
It’s not a story the CEOs would tell you...
They only sell a single car, that's not a rebadge these days.
Kar Wai Wong they sold rebadged cars like the Thema and Ulysse, the Ypsilon is a Fiat 500 with different bodywork
DDT Yeah but they don’t sell the Thema anymore. The Ypsilion is not a rebadge, don’t get it confused with platform sharing.
The Toyota Aygo was rebadged as the Citroen C1 and the Peugeot 107. Really successful.
Do you even know what rebadging means?! The Aygo was made after both the Citroen and the Peugeot, ans Théo all look VERY different.
Maybe it’s not the right word, I admit. I have seen it was changed slightly.
Toyota Wigo?
They were developed as a joint venture.
@@timfrolov7891 On the Peugeot 107 page - The 107 was developed by the B-Zero project of PSA Peugeot Citroën in a joint venture with Toyota; the Citroën C1 and Toyota Aygo are badge engineered versions of the same car, the Aygo having more detail differences from the C1 and 107.
I love my "Dodge" Stealth.
The Mitsubishi Eclipse and eagle talon! ;)
Plymouth laser, too
Why don’t you guys do an Up To Speed on the rivalry between Audi and Lancia?
The grand tour already do that
Ya grand tour did about the group B era
I'll do it only on lanciw
And its not even that interesting, Ferrari vs ford on nascar.
its been done.
4:25 Karin Futo🤣😂
Bruh
gta 5 respect
The isuzu trooper was rebadged as over 10 different vehicles including luxury vehicles
The isuzu dmax is rebadged as Chevrolet eldababa which means Chevrolet tank here in egypt 😂😂
I wouldn't consider half of these listed as badge engineered vehicles. GM owns Holden. Holden uses GM platforms, engines, etc. It's not really badge engineering when it's all under GM.
Badge engineering is where one manufacturer goes to another manufacturer of completely different decent and says "hey we'd like to take x car and put it into our lineup", we don't consider Toyotas with Lexus badges to be badge engineered and likewise we shouldn't consider a Holden with a Chevy badge to be badge engineer because technically they are quite literally the same company. When it's the same company it's simply just a rebadge, not a badge engineer.
are you sure about that
The MG midget was just an Austin Healy sprite with MG logos on it
Look at the Austin 1300, it was badged as a Morris, MG, Riley, Wolseley, Vanden Plas + I might be missing a few
The chevy ss is one of my favorite cars of all time
Which is actually a Holden Commodore.
@@lukeslocomotives8521 and it's actually vauxhall vectra / opel vectra :D
@@EnchoStanev What!? The Chevrolet SS is a Holden VF Commodore made in Australia with Chevrolet badges instead of Holden badges and imported to America. The Vauxhall/Opel Vectra is entirely different, being made in Germany. The Vectra was also Badged as the Holden Astra in Australia.
The new Mercedes X-Class is based on the Nissan Navara.
Not just based. It is a Navarra with different interior and some exterior parts. But that is super common with European car makers. VW sells the same Golf and Polo platforms as Skodas, Seats, Audis. Renault has the Kangoo which Mercedes sells as Citigo (or whatever it's called). And so on.
and it runs on Renault engines ;-)
And the sprinter is based on VW.
I remember that trucks for the 90's, from different brands were all essentially Hilux's. Isuzu and VW comes to mind.
@@GermanEngineer84 That's not strange and no secret at all. Almost every European knows that the VAG concern includes VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda and Maybach,MAN(trucks) to name a few. The Renault/Nissan/Mercedes Benz bonding isn't hardly a new topic either..
...The "anemic" four cylinder you showed for the Cadillac Cimarron was not a four cylinder. It was the 2.8 V6 (5:34).
Yup my kids mom had a 1989 z -24 convertible had that V6..It was actually fun to drive with the top down..
5:33
NorthernChev there were 2 engine for this particular fiasco
I came here to make the same point lol. I had an 88 Z24 with that same motor. It was peppy, but it was, in the end, a piece. I eventually moved on to the newer Z with the Quad, and the LS Sport with the Ecotec. I had a blast with those cars.
Toyota Matrix - Pontiac Vibe - Toyota Voltz (Japan)
Ford Ranger - Mazda B Series Trucks
Honda Civic - Acura CSX (I know, Honda owns both, but the CSX is 25% more money for the same car)
Stirling Bullet - Dodge Ram
Only Toyota would sell an American built car(Voltz) in Japan and a foreign built car(Matrix) in USA.
Ever heard of proton from Malaysia? Essentially rebadged Mitsubishis for 2/3 of their existence
I've actually wanted to buy a Proton to do up. They are very cheap and pretty rare in the UK.
And Honda accord
but wait.. there's more.. a jaguar now
Better than perodua, which rebadged toyota/daihatsu almost 90% of their existence
@@lukmanulhakeemabang3078 really?!
Oh here's one (ik Im LATE)
Mercedes-Benz GLA-Class
Infiniti QX30.
Infiniti QX60
Nissan Armada
5:15 when they say M3 but it's a M2
an* M2
don't be an* ass@@LincolnLagger
@@LincolnLagger M is a Consonant so He is correct, They Use "An" when the first letter of the word infront of it is a Vowel, try thinking :/
@@wxnkss9481 nah lol M is pronounced 'em' and 'e' is a vowel, try again man
@@wxnkss9481 "Y" is a vowel, but you don't say "an yellow car", you say "a yellow car"
The Chevy (Sprinter) Nova had the same 4AGE engine as in the AE86 so the Nova was a rebadged 86, with front wheel drive
thegrassmaster2 I'm glad somebody else knew this 😱, people look at me like I've got three heads when I say that
Just so you know, the 4AGE is also found in the MR2
ROJ GERMAN and also in a bunch of other corollas as well as the 86
Matt Wilkinson the 4AGE has been in a ton of cars
ummm.. no, just no. It wasn't a "rabadged AE86"... at all. and the 4AGE came in literally everything at the time. It was a rebadged... wait for it... toyota corolla... and NO NOT the Corolla Trueno/LEVIN. the COROLLA COROLLA that Toyota also sold in their own country which looks like the chevy nova looks... and is FWD like the nova... nice try to spur sensationalism from the Weeaboos though.
I always thought to myself why didn't they sue other companies for copying their design, that's why, thank you for this video, very informative
The most rebadged car is the corsa b, a subcompact car not for sale in the US. Opel corsa, chevrolet Chevy, vauxhall corsa, buick sail, holden barina, Suzuki fun, and other names.
Uriel Trejo ah I remember seeing the Chevrolet Chevy when I took a trip to Mexico and thought "wtf why were the namers so lazy?"
Opel and vauxhall are the same brand
Tom Brennan yeah but its still a different name and badge so it still counts
Kieran Courtney no it doesnt count
Uriel Trejo .
The truth about RUF
Mj Tingzon RUF Is a like Brabus.... But they works on Porsche desing only
Mj Tingzon RUF is a tuning house, though. Just like Dinan is to BMW.
Mj Tingzon ruf tuned theyre cars not just rebadge them
Anggoro Putra Alpina is the better example
Up to speed: RUF
5:15 looks like an M2 or M4. 3series BMWs in the F series had 4 doors if I’m not mistaken. The kidneys scream M2 to me.
It's funny you mentioned the Chevy SS. It was reviewed by Regular Car Reviews a couple of days ago. It was a great car, too bad it didn't sell much.
cause Chevrolet didn't advertise it, and kept it out of canada
Holden makes better car's if you ask me
Yeah, Chevy dropped the ball on the SS. Doug DeMuro points that out in his review of it.
Yyyyyeah. And now our factory is getting shut down costing thousands of jobs. It had high praise from Top Gear (as the Vauxhall VXR8), a low price, mutual components with GM vehicles, 5 big seats, a big fuck off boot and more road presense than a 300C.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Low price my azz. $55k?
The sad story of Lancia
86/ BRZ/ FRS
Toyota Bb/ Scion XB
Tahoe/SubUrban
LandCruiser/LX570
Highlander/RX350
Chevy Colorado/ GMC Canyon
GMC Yukon/Cadillace Escalade
Chrysler Town and Country/ Dodge Grand Caravan
Ford Edge/ Lincoln MKX
Ford Expedition/ Lincoln Navigator
Honda Civic/ Acura ILX
Mazda 2/ Toyota Yaris
:)
Man, LX570 and RX350 are sharing platform with Landcruiser and Highlander, so is not rebadged. Cause they both didn't have similiar body shape and interior design.
Lexus is a luxury Toyota
Acura is a Luxury Honda
so some of your points are not valid.
It's not Ajax, it's Francis
Ahaha deadpoolXD
NASHCAR
*ba dum tss
Kekistani citizen #001 is gay
Malaysia has 2 'national car brands' one sells basically rebranded mitsubishi and recent years a china car company, another company sells rebranded daihatsu
Don’t forget about the second gen Proton Perdana, which is definitely NOT a rebadge.
@@arion9696 2nd gen Perdana is a rebranded Honda Accord
@@tormenmashi_ Thank you captain obvious. What gave it away?
@@arion9696 Just realized your original comment was being sarcastic sorry didnt read it properly
And one of those models have been rebadged not once, twice... but is sold in four brands. Daihatsu Rocky, Toyota Raize, Subaru Rex, Perodua Ativa.
Saab and WRX
they said that, Saab 9-2X is a wrx
they're the same thing! it's direct bolt-on!
Subaru manufactured a badge engineered version of the second generation Impreza hatchback as the "Saab 9-2X" between 2004 and 2005. Retailed only in the North American market for the 2005 and 2006 model years, the car earned the nickname "Saabaru". At the time the 9-2X was conceived, Saab Automobile had been a fully owned subsidiary of General Motors (GM), and GM held a 20 percent stake of Subaru's parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries.
Atem S. It's a completely different interior
Jake Schuster
thats funny. looks the same to me
Does anyone else really miss Saab?
Me for sure
Timothy Daly Yes... Luckily my dad collected XD
My dad did own a 900 turbo but he sold it unfortunately.
Yea
Yes I miss the 9-2's and 9-3's. :(
Chevy Spark = Daewoo Matiz, pretty much every Volkswagen = Seat, Skoda, Bentley, Lambo, Audi
It's not really rebadging if you own both brands. It's called platform-sharing.
You haven’t got a clue about the VW group have you.
No one wanted a Holden huh? Then why did GM offer the Holden badges as accessories to the SS? I would have loved an SS but a house was more important at that time. Have a G8 though, had a GTO.
Only selected dealers and some aftermarket outfits (and the companies Federalizing models like the Commodore Ute)...
You guys do realize you said the J-body used the four cylinder but showed a picture of a 2.8 v6 right?
The first and second gen Z24 came with the 2.8
Is this why the Mercury Grand Marquis, Ford Crown Victoria, and Lincoln Town Car look so similar?
Yep, same car
0:23 ITS NOT A LIQUID!!!!
LMFAO! I thought the same thing.
microbuilder
tell that to Scrooge McDuck lol
darn inconsistent cartoon physics....
I think many peoples don't understand the difference between corporate cars (1 car used for several models almost identicals for each division of a manufacturer) and badge engineering cars
One, in my youth, I remember seeing a Vauxhall Astra / Opel Kadet parked in a car park. Except it had a Pontiac badge on it. As a Brit, I always thought of Pontiac as this cool exotic American company that made muscle cars or something. I'd never seen a Pontiac in the flesh before. My world was turned somewhat upside down that day.
100th! RAMCHARGERS! woohoo!
Man will you shut the fuck up about that shit already
lol
ScarletMiata beating a dead horse
Ramchargers are pretty sweet.
In India's case we have many. For naming a few.
There's a Romanian maker's Dacia Duster, which is sold rebadged as Renault Duster in India. Also in India, same Dacia Duster is tweaked very little and is sold rebadged by Nissan as Nissan Terrano.
Famous case with Maruti Suzuki.
Also Maruti Suzuki will partner with Toyota for rebadging each other's car.
Also. This may seem wierd or maybe a thought in my head. Look at the new Range Rover Discovery and the Tata Safari Lineup. Yup mostly everything is different, but look at basic design of em. Tata owns both Jaguar and Land Rover now. And Safari line up is known as best SUV lineup. So it might have happened.
here in Argentina happens the same with the Duster, and so with the sandero, and i think most of the lineup of renault are dacias and not renault, but thats a common thing in my country (you know to sell crappy cars)
Nissan and Renault share a lot of models
Nissan Sunny : Renault Scala
nissan micra : renault pulse
Yah. Same here with Renault mostly.
Yup..forgot the Sunny=Scala thing
Because Renault buy a lot share in Nissan
Dacia is owned by Renault as cheap brand like a skoda in VAG.
Mateusz Zimon thanks for telling
Imagine saying you got an Aston Martin but you pull up in a Toyota IQ with an Aston Martin badge
Ponatic Vibe a rebadge Toyota Matrix
Kevin Lim Ahem.. Voltz
Made at the Tesla factory in Fremont (hmmm...).
Toyota Voltz seems to be the brand's rebadge of the Pontiac Vibe, not the Matrix (wasn't sold in JDM and you could distinguish a Vibe from a Matrix from the middle of the car and back, as they sloped differently).
True but that was just a continuation of the aforementioned Corolla/Nova/Prism/Vibe partnership
I forgot about that
Toyota Cavalier
The Winstorm is actually a rebadged Chevy Captiva
The Chevy SS come to Brazil named Chevrolet Ômega. GM market in Brazil is basically Chevrolet brand. About 90’s and 2000 Chevrolet rebranded Opel and Vauxhall models to brazilian costumers, but todays chevrolet market have many GM american Models, Like Camaro, Cruze, Equinox and brazilian made models Like Chevrolet Montana, S10, Trailblazer and the Ônix, Ônix is the best-seller model in Brazil, a 4cyl1.0/1.4L 108cv FWD manual compact car hatchBack or sedan body, for around US$15.000.
First time at the channel. Super dope video tons of information awesome job!
James D. Buzzard donut got me into cars😂
i like the dsm cars ... eclipse talon and laser are all awesome
you mean laser?
Eagle Talon
Plymouth Laser
Mitsubishi Eclipse
they are the same car
all the folks that looked up and learned what mendacious meant
My Chevrolet Spark is proudly made by Deawoo GM, in South Korea
Garrett Reven GM and Daewoo have a long history with share platform and cars.
Sure do, I just get a kick out of finding Deawoo branded parts every once in awhile, instead of GM
In Poland Daewoo make microwave owen and cars like Lanos,Nubira,Lacetti
My aveo was a mostly Daewoo make. It was a nice first car. I miss it.
Enjoy your cheapo piece of shit.
The Cadillac Cimarron was supposed to compete with the BMW M3? Where do you get this crap? The BMW M3 came out in the 1986 model year. The Cimarron came out in 1982, *four years before* the M3 came out. The Cimarron was the result of GM's need for a compact luxury car to compete with cars in that class from European luxury marques and their misguided belief that they could just do so by changing the grille and taillights and adding an upmarket interior. It was one of the few badge engineered cars that literally was badge engineered. The market quickly disabused them of that fallacy. The M3 is a high end performance car. A Cimarron is not. Only an idiot would confuse the two.
Came looking for this comment, I have no fluckin clue which genius at donut media thought the cimarron came after the m3 and was supposed to compete with it
The Catera (an Opel) was supposed to be the Caddy that changed the game for them...and it did, it was renamed the CTS, had a high performance variant, the V series and put them on the map as a serious sports sedan contender.
Regarding the SS...it was always supposed to be a low volume model. The VF Commodore was slated to be the final model built at that factory, just as the Falcon from Ford the other V8 RWD sedan making noise down there. Yeah, advertising was very limited, but the people who were supposed to buy them did, enthusiasts - I know I love mine 😉
Not trying to spark debate, just that the SS is a little misunderstood here.
In addition to being the ultimate brittish car company, Aston Martin is not British
Think you'll find it is. Always British owned, registered in London, factories around England, HQ in Warwickshire and general brand identity as British as you can get. Don't know what company you're mistaking them for?
@@dcarbs2979 yeah OP is talking shit
Also, the alliance between Honda and Isuzu in the 90s. Does anyone remember the Isuzu Oasis?
Honda rebadged the Isuzu Rodeo and Isuzu Trooper as the Honda Passport and Acura SLX
MercurySable99 it was a rebadged Honda Pilot and/or Passport. Also the 90's Honda/Isuzu partnership with GM, Isuzu sent motors to GM for them to Rebadged for small engine truck/SUVs like the Chevy S10/S15/Blazer, GMC Sonoma/Cyclone/Jimmy, and a few small engine cars, mostly the twin overhead cam sedans on Saturn's, Pontiac's, Olds, Buick's.
The Oasis was a rebadged Honda Odyssey.
Nik Buerky Isusu engine also was mounted in Opel/Vauxhall cars
Mateusz Zimon I did say they sent them to GM, GM owns Opel and Vauxhall, so that would imply that GM put them in whatever they owned.
Chrysler Conquest. Rebadged Mitsubishi Starion.
dodge Stealth = rebadged mitsu 3000gt
Chrysler rossfire=rebadged slk
Vauxhall vx220=rebadged opel speedster=modified rebadged lotud elise
Aimar Zufar The Crossfire is WAYY off the SLK. It only shared the powertrain and the platform.
ThundeRed T well its a remake then
Plymouth Neon is a rebadged Dodge Neon. Same car, same name, same company, different divisions
There's a V8 aston martin cygnet by the way(its widebody BTW).from
aston
Bad engineering 😂😂😂 sorry that came out of nowhere.
Im awesome
the fucc
Have you hearted of Proton and Peredua?
Tony G Benard famous for badge engineering 😂
Car company claiming to be a car company by rebaging other car company car
Proton is famous for badge engineering with Geely
Roy Kim Wei And that's Proton
Perodua my friend
2004 Skoda Superb is a rebadged 3BG Passat, which is based on the B5/PL45 platform for the Audi A4/6, but with a lengthened wheelbase. Interestingly, this generation and the B1 generation Passat/Superb/A4/A6 are the only gens to share a platform.
The eighties Monte Carlo and regal are the same platform
Actually it went from the '60s 'til the Aughts (Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Regal, Cutlass Supreme ), even as they've switched to FWD...
Yea but different engine
Buick Regal (1982-1987)
Chevrolet El Camino (1982-1987)
Chevrolet Malibu (1982-1983)
Chevrolet Monte Carlo (1982-1988)
GMC Caballero (1982-1987)
Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (1982-1988) Note: the 1988 model was known as Cutlass Supreme Classic
Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruiser (1982-1983)
Oldsmobile Cutlass Salon (1986-1987)
Pontiac Bonneville (1982-1986)
Pontiac Grand Prix (1978-1987)
You'll have to remove one from what I believe is GM's "G" midsize RWD platform list as the Pontiac Bonneville was on the next larger (same as Chevy Caprice) chassis.
Even as these "G's" were replaced by a FWD platform (the El Camino / Sprint / Caballero Utes never made it to the FWD platform) whoever survived was kept within the same platform family as the others. Most of the members of a GM platform family (unless they had a Cadillac member and even then...) used much of the same engine lineup.
the Pontiac Bonneville was a G-body car from 1982-1986
My first car was a ‘76 Dodge Colt, literally a Mitsubishi Galant with different emblems and wood grain. I think Plymouth had one too called either Valiant or Cricket.
GM f*cked up saab😢
The windstorm is a Holden Captiva
You missed spelt it mate, it should be spelt Craptiva lol
It's tragic they replaced the Adventra with that shitbox
You guys misspelled cancer
@@TheTeeroy32 Even the engineers call it the Craptiva lol
Also chevy captiva in Indonesia
what happened to Plymouth??
Pinoy_Silvia S14 Death by loss of identity
Last hurrah was a "Duesy"... The Prowler "factory hot-rod".
the prowler was a stolen Foose design and they still found a way to screw it up. lol
REDLINESTEEZ, biggest problem would be the engine they put into the Prowler, the NA3.5L V6 that wasn't very reliable (par for Chrysler's course...). In hindsight (they didn't knew back then) the Pentastar engine (NA-3.6L) and a higher-cog (than 4) tranny (even a 6-speed would've done the trick even if they couldn't profitably install a proper manual). At least it was a longitudinal RWD engine and not FWD (it was based on a very modified Intrepid, so much so that had other kind of traction and engine positioning from the donor).
Sales went down
7:00 instead of that bullshit, Aston Martin should have made a competitor to the Mini Cooper S.. an Aston version of the Mini S would probably be pretty sick..
As usual, fun and informative! Good job Donut Media! It is channels like yours that keep me from going back to cable.