I just acquired a 30 year old HR215 electric start model with every bell and whistle in superb condition for $50 from an estate sale. It probably saw three seasons max before the coil died and it sat. I replaced the coil, changed the oil, installed a 3d printed 20v lithium drill battery mount to replace the dead starting battery and now it’s a beautiful running machine that’s so much nicer than my 60v Greenworks electric push mower. I’m planning on using it the rest of my life, as it’s the same mower with the same engine as the commercial line without being called ‘commercial’. Quality all around and as clean running as a four stroke can get. People will regret jumping on the electric train. My 60v Greenworks mower has no power or suction. Pine needles, dog poop, pine cones, they all mat down into the grass. Five minutes of mowing with the vintage HR215, the grass is now bare and clean. Incredible.
These things are (and will BOTH agree), the BEST Lawnmowers EVER. I am seeing more and more, and I'm now getting much more selective in what I'm buying, as they seem to be everywhere. After that, I have FUN "recycling these amazing machines. After that: even more fun looking / watching / and MEETING the various 'Sellers' ... thinking they've played-me for a fool for even buying, what THEY BELIEVE ta be a soon "outlawed machine" !.
@@TommyZTrainsI couldn’t agree more. People will wake up one day and realize their mistakes. Electric stuff is more convenient, lighter to maneuver, etc. but they severely lack in suction, long term reliability and power. My yard became matted and compacted during the three years I used electric after my 2006 Honda HRR216 died and I sold it. Found the 60v mower at a yardsale for $75 and thought it was great at first but then I acquired a 2017 John Deere D110 with a bagging system and 70 hours on the clock for $450 with a blown head gasket. Fixed it and was blown away by its vacuum and clean cut. Then I found this Honda HR215 and the electric stuff is history. There’s nothing better than the sound and feel of a well-tuned precision machine doing a great job - what it was designed to do. I think all this electric equipment is gimmicky, sold to maximize profits. I’d rather keep a quality machine running smoothly for decades to come than to babysit batteries and hope they continue to work from year to year.
Whats so great about electric?.My funace is gas .I had it put in 5 years ago for 2500 and it saved me 50 dollars a month cause 95 percent efficient.My brother had a heat pump put in last year and spent 8 grand and it wont heat the whole house .
@@raypalermo1603 In the years I used electric yard equipment, I didn’t have to service any of it. Just string on the weed eater. It’s convenient at the cost of being almost impossible to repair unless you scavenge for used parts. Greenworks doesn’t sell parts and after the warranty period is up, the devices are pretty much disposable. I had a Greenworks 60v cordless snow blower and I would do about one driveway per battery. I’ve since been given a Honda snowblower and am looking forward to being able to clear more snow this winter. For the average .25-.35 acre homeowner, electric is the way to go. For someone who likes repairing things along the way as I do, gas is king.
Thoroughly enjoyed this one! Man are times strange. I never imagined growing up people would ditch gas powered anything. But hey in a way it’s win for “old school” guys huh! One man’s trash another man’s treasure. Love your attention to detail and treating a machine like it knows what it wants! Make it run at its full potential!
That's just an amazing deal you got on that mower!!! I've got one with a slightly bent shaft. I was mowing someone's yard with it, as a favor. And all of the sudden "bang" I hit a root that was sticking up, but hidden under some tall grass. It bent the bottom blade 180 degrees, and bent my shaft. Urgggggg! I straightened it out as well as I could. Now it vibrates like hell when its idling. But still mows fine when the clutch is engaged, and the blades are spinning. Wish I could find a deal like you did!!! That mower will last you the rest of your life, and then some! Great video!
I've gotten 3 so far ... I'd try an straighten that crank ! *It SHOULD BE Obvious if it's bent that badly, so pop everything OUT, get a nice piece of pipe, and get it straightened back out !. (Just MY opinion there).
To landscapers, Honda's HRC 216 is like the AR-15 firearm, the best weapon in his arsenal: one pull, one start. I purchased one in the mid-eighties, a model HRC 216-AD, type HXA. The engine lasted for 40-years of residential use before it through a rod this week--right out the side of the case. Fortunately, I was able to procure a long block off eBay, what appears to be a Honda compatible. We shall see how long it last. For the record, I have zero interest in an electric mower. My 93-year-old mother has one of those "Playstation" mowers, a Black and Decker 36V, and it is already dead as a doornail.
Careful ... "or were coming after / for YOU" ! (ROFLOL). The (this) whole thing is literally ridiculous / amid something that "isn't even there". These 'freakout people' astound me and there falling for all this hook - line "and battery". 🤥 I'm [now] am on my 5th Machine, and I'm getting more an more fussy with what I'll buy / or "offer" to buy. I think however (now), that I'm gonna stop and see where all this goes. I LOVE Your analogy / + couldn't agree MORE. 😂
@@TommyZTrains camshaft in plastic made suck why with that why cam valve intake and exhaust not need anymore to registrate on Honda mower hrx217 hrd 216 and hrn 216
@@TommyZTrains every type of four-stroke or two-stroke engine has a rope which, when you pull it, the spring tightens and releases two hooks which rotate the flywheel with a sort of cup with four square holes which thus rotate the crankshaft but if the valves if intake and exhaust are not adjusted the engine itself becomes harsh and gives kickbacks when starting
Just keep an eye out, as I (myself), now have 4 units in absol. BEAUTIFUL Shape ... They seem to just 'sit' on F.B. Marketplace / the like, so I low-ball them / and usually score. It'll be interesting to see what happens to these machines and their value.
@@TommyZTrains Absolutely my neighbor put a HRR2166 out for the trash last year I cleaned the carb and sharpen the blades and I'm still using it I normally sell them off but this one is going to be a keeper 👍🏾
Best lawnmower on the market. Just bought one brand new before Honda stops making them. Saved $2k off the HSS1332A I bought with it. Can't wait to use the HRC216 this spring.
Ive used an HRC and an HRX for years. The HRX is good for flats and tight areas (lightweight) The HRC shines on awkward/hilly/ wet and basically any other terrain over the HRX. The HRC is just planted at all times. Its a bear to move around but worth it.
HRC216 is super amazing! But just FYI, in HRX217 models too, each wheel has two bearings (inner and outer). What's especially great about the wheels of HRC216 is that they are made of Nexite polymer which is what HRX217 models use for the deck with life time warranty on it.
Purchased one of these new in 2011 and have been using it every season without fail. Just tore it down and replaced a bunch of rusty parts. I would disagree though that these are dropping in value. In fact I believe that these will begin to appreciate as they become more scarce. A nice example in the shape of the one you worked on gets upwards of a grand in my area. Landscapers will pay all the money for the nice examples as they know they are a work horse.
Never said I THOUGHT they were "losing" value Jeff ... my remarks are aligned with the people whom ALREADY have these, **and "THEY" think they'll be taken away or something** / because their GAS Pwr'ed ... Again: I see them all over the place, and people do NOT seem to want a "gas anything" anymore ... so they sit-and sit (the last one was 18 weeks with no takers), and I move in and lowball offer them, and when I loading the machine up they'll remark that I cannot bring it back BECAUSE it's a gas machine and THEY are NOT responsible ! ... and: with that: I get the better one's for literally pennies on the dollar. I now have 5 machines ..... "You tell me".
Jeez. Would love to assist someone in relieving their guilt of an HRC216! No such silliness in my area. I bought mine brand new in 2018 and I really appreciate the quality. It now has about 55hrs.
It's sad news for me to hear about Honda leaving the gasoline outdoor power equipment market I own 2 lawnmowers & trimmer 😮 I believe that the weight difference kept their trimmers from being more popular 😮 much quieter, lower fuel consumption, than the 2cyls😊
Sure ... "and in no small measure" ! I'm all for "better" and cleaner as well, but the way things are going it FEELS LIKE "their" coming to TAKE anything 'gas'.
I see a surprising amount of battery lawn mowers for sale. I am not sure if people buy them then regret it or what. I will stick to gas mowers myself. I am still running an old school snapper which might be the best mower I ever owned and its over 20 years old.
The poor saps are buying those electric mowers out of GUILT, and within a year the battery dies, and they put them out on the curb for trash. Then their buying a used gas mower because they just work if they take care of them.
Unable to find one used, however, I found one brand new at a local dealer. I pulled the plug, and I should have had peace of mind until I packed it in and placed it in a box.
Just picked up one of these from my dealer. Used by a homeowner once a week for 5 years. Perfect shape. $600. I thought I got a good deal, but $250? That's a steal! What is the 3M coating you used on the underside of the deck before the fluid film?
Just 3M Rubberized Undercoating. I now have 4 of these, and I'm quite sure many more will pop up as things get "worse" amid the fossil fuel setting / & the guilt factor.
Great vidoe, I'm an HRC216 owner myself, im not a mechanic and just do basic maintenance so I learned a lot this video. Is there a reason that the rpms arent as strong as before? It doesn't go as fast anymore, would greasing the ball bearings like you did help with that? Is it just grease that you put on them?
That won't help (in an RPM regard), and I wouldn't really worry about your "little personality change" amid the governed speed. It CAN be moved, but I'm quite sure that overall you are happy with the machines performance ? / and there is a governor spring, that perhaps has lost just a tiny bit of tinsel (strength) ... so, if your running the motor and look on the left side; you will see a network of links / and it is there that you'll find an "arm" that you carefully can bend to INCREASE spring "tinsel" strength. *I know this won't make a lot of sense, but I'm afraid that it's rather involved to do this procedure unless your well familiar with the machines "build". END RUN: you haven't any "real-issue" right ? / SO then; "just leave things alone" / but KNOW that under ANY load, the machine WILL compensate for ANY "load" that you can happen to throw at it / = "everything's ok". 🙃 Just keep the blades nice n' sharp, give it a bit of a lube, and you'll enjoy FOREVER performance. Take CARE.
Just WATCH in your area !, Many more are happening along as people feel they're literally "committing a crime" even having these gas-powered machines !. "CRAZY" !! ............... (MY opinion).
$250 you should have played the lottery that day. I just spent $1400 out the door. Last one in Tampa dealerships. I was happy to pay it. These things aren’t coming back and I’m over the battery powered ramp up / down blade speed BS cut.
I guess powered battery powered trimmers are great for homeowners who only “edge”the yard every two weeks! I’m serious. Homeowners who don’t use them commercially. They would be good string trimmers and things smaller than that! Perhaps even small chainsaw for occasionally use. But lawnmowers & especially riding mowers NO!!
That's what my original Video was ABOUT (I paid the same), but NOW many want rid of / and are getting rid of "gas-anything" amid that 'guilt factor' I preface here. Thus far, I have 3 machines ... "THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL UNITS". 😉
gas rules battery mowers suck donkey butt. I got the 2nd to top ego mower last year it sucks hate it, can't even sell it no one wants it hardly used. I now have the hrn 216 love it.
Possibly, but I think it's in our being fair, that we REMEMBER that this stuff is ever evolving, and whatever happens / Honda's not stupid and IF it is a "24 hour" thing, (your remark), then it likely bring excellence toward the setting.
I just acquired a 30 year old HR215 electric start model with every bell and whistle in superb condition for $50 from an estate sale. It probably saw three seasons max before the coil died and it sat. I replaced the coil, changed the oil, installed a 3d printed 20v lithium drill battery mount to replace the dead starting battery and now it’s a beautiful running machine that’s so much nicer than my 60v Greenworks electric push mower. I’m planning on using it the rest of my life, as it’s the same mower with the same engine as the commercial line without being called ‘commercial’. Quality all around and as clean running as a four stroke can get. People will regret jumping on the electric train. My 60v Greenworks mower has no power or suction. Pine needles, dog poop, pine cones, they all mat down into the grass. Five minutes of mowing with the vintage HR215, the grass is now bare and clean. Incredible.
These things are (and will BOTH agree), the BEST Lawnmowers EVER. I am seeing more and more, and I'm now getting much more selective in what I'm buying, as they seem to be everywhere. After that, I have FUN "recycling these amazing machines. After that: even more fun looking / watching / and MEETING the various 'Sellers' ... thinking they've played-me for a fool for even buying, what THEY BELIEVE ta be a soon "outlawed machine" !.
@@TommyZTrainsI couldn’t agree more. People will wake up one day and realize their mistakes. Electric stuff is more convenient, lighter to maneuver, etc. but they severely lack in suction, long term reliability and power. My yard became matted and compacted during the three years I used electric after my 2006 Honda HRR216 died and I sold it. Found the 60v mower at a yardsale for $75 and thought it was great at first but then I acquired a 2017 John Deere D110 with a bagging system and 70 hours on the clock for $450 with a blown head gasket. Fixed it and was blown away by its vacuum and clean cut. Then I found this Honda HR215 and the electric stuff is history. There’s nothing better than the sound and feel of a well-tuned precision machine doing a great job - what it was designed to do. I think all this electric equipment is gimmicky, sold to maximize profits. I’d rather keep a quality machine running smoothly for decades to come than to babysit batteries and hope they continue to work from year to year.
Where can I get this 3d printed mount?
Whats so great about electric?.My funace is gas .I had it put in 5 years ago for 2500 and it saved me 50 dollars a month cause 95 percent efficient.My brother had a heat pump put in last year and spent 8 grand and it wont heat the whole house .
@@raypalermo1603 In the years I used electric yard equipment, I didn’t have to service any of it. Just string on the weed eater. It’s convenient at the cost of being almost impossible to repair unless you scavenge for used parts. Greenworks doesn’t sell parts and after the warranty period is up, the devices are pretty much disposable. I had a Greenworks 60v cordless snow blower and I would do about one driveway per battery. I’ve since been given a Honda snowblower and am looking forward to being able to clear more snow this winter. For the average .25-.35 acre homeowner, electric is the way to go. For someone who likes repairing things along the way as I do, gas is king.
Thoroughly enjoyed this one! Man are times strange. I never imagined growing up people would ditch gas powered anything. But hey in a way it’s win for “old school” guys huh! One man’s trash another man’s treasure. Love your attention to detail and treating a machine like it knows what it wants! Make it run at its full potential!
That's just an amazing deal you got on that mower!!!
I've got one with a slightly bent shaft. I was mowing someone's yard with it, as a favor. And all of the sudden "bang" I hit a root that was sticking up, but hidden under some tall grass. It bent the bottom blade 180 degrees, and bent my shaft. Urgggggg! I straightened it out as well as I could. Now it vibrates like hell when its idling. But still mows fine when the clutch is engaged, and the blades are spinning.
Wish I could find a deal like you did!!!
That mower will last you the rest of your life, and then some!
Great video!
I've gotten 3 so far ... I'd try an straighten that crank ! *It SHOULD BE Obvious if it's bent that badly, so pop everything OUT, get a nice piece of pipe, and get it straightened back out !. (Just MY opinion there).
To landscapers, Honda's HRC 216 is like the AR-15 firearm, the best weapon in his arsenal: one pull, one start. I purchased one in the mid-eighties, a model HRC 216-AD, type HXA. The engine lasted for 40-years of residential use before it through a rod this week--right out the side of the case. Fortunately, I was able to procure a long block off eBay, what appears to be a Honda compatible. We shall see how long it last. For the record, I have zero interest in an electric mower. My 93-year-old mother has one of those "Playstation" mowers, a Black and Decker 36V, and it is already dead as a doornail.
Careful ... "or were coming after / for YOU" ! (ROFLOL). The (this) whole thing is literally ridiculous / amid something that "isn't even there". These 'freakout people' astound me and there falling for all this hook - line "and battery". 🤥 I'm [now] am on my 5th Machine, and I'm getting more an more fussy with what I'll buy / or "offer" to buy. I think however (now), that I'm gonna stop and see where all this goes. I LOVE Your analogy / + couldn't agree MORE. 😂
@@TommyZTrains camshaft in plastic made suck why with that why cam valve intake and exhaust not need anymore to registrate on Honda mower hrx217 hrd 216 and hrn 216
@@LeonardoMigot I didn't know this "as I NEVER heard of a failure" .... Honda's motto should be: "as time goes by, you'll know why". 😶🌫🙃
@@TommyZTrains every type of four-stroke or two-stroke engine has a rope which, when you pull it, the spring tightens and releases two hooks which rotate the flywheel with a sort of cup with four square holes which thus rotate the crankshaft but if the valves if intake and exhaust are not adjusted the engine itself becomes harsh and gives kickbacks when starting
You definitely got a excellent deal on this one! I had one years ago ran it for years cleaned it up and sold for more than you paid for this one.💯👍🏾
Just keep an eye out, as I (myself), now have 4 units in absol. BEAUTIFUL Shape ... They seem to just 'sit' on F.B. Marketplace / the like, so I low-ball them / and usually score. It'll be interesting to see what happens to these machines and their value.
@@TommyZTrains Absolutely my neighbor put a HRR2166 out for the trash last year I cleaned the carb and sharpen the blades and I'm still using it I normally sell them off but this one is going to be a keeper 👍🏾
Best lawnmower on the market. Just bought one brand new before Honda stops making them. Saved $2k off the HSS1332A I bought with it.
Can't wait to use the HRC216 this spring.
Nice !, I now have 4, and just watch for them as people dont seem to want them !. 😂
Spaying a protective coat under is a great idea
I think so !. 🥴
Ive used an HRC and an HRX for years. The HRX is good for flats and tight areas (lightweight) The HRC shines on awkward/hilly/ wet and basically any other terrain over the HRX. The HRC is just planted at all times. Its a bear to move around but worth it.
HRC216 is super amazing! But just FYI, in HRX217 models too, each wheel has two bearings (inner and outer). What's especially great about the wheels of HRC216 is that they are made of Nexite polymer which is what HRX217 models use for the deck with life time warranty on it.
GOOD TO KNOW !!! 👌
In my town every crew runs Honda's. Go one hour north to OKC and they run Toro and Exmark. Guess it depends on what your dealer has and service's
That's a great mower will last forever. Picked up one HRC216 for free only needs carb cleaning 😮
Great video man!
Purchased one of these new in 2011 and have been using it every season without fail. Just tore it down and replaced a bunch of rusty parts. I would disagree though that these are dropping in value. In fact I believe that these will begin to appreciate as they become more scarce. A nice example in the shape of the one you worked on gets upwards of a grand in my area. Landscapers will pay all the money for the nice examples as they know they are a work horse.
Never said I THOUGHT they were "losing" value Jeff ... my remarks are aligned with the people whom ALREADY have these, **and "THEY" think they'll be taken away or something** / because their GAS Pwr'ed ... Again: I see them all over the place, and people do NOT seem to want a "gas anything" anymore ... so they sit-and sit (the last one was 18 weeks with no takers), and I move in and lowball offer them, and when I loading the machine up they'll remark that I cannot bring it back BECAUSE it's a gas machine and THEY are NOT responsible ! ... and: with that: I get the better one's for literally pennies on the dollar. I now have 5 machines ..... "You tell me".
I like how nostalgic those sound
Jeez. Would love to assist someone in relieving their guilt of an HRC216! No such silliness in my area. I bought mine brand new in 2018 and I really appreciate the quality. It now has about 55hrs.
"Honda Commercial Lives matter". 🥴
It's sad news for me to hear about Honda leaving the gasoline outdoor power equipment market I own 2 lawnmowers & trimmer 😮 I believe that the weight difference kept their trimmers from being more popular 😮 much quieter, lower fuel consumption, than the 2cyls😊
Sure ... "and in no small measure" ! I'm all for "better" and cleaner as well, but the way things are going it FEELS LIKE "their" coming to TAKE anything 'gas'.
I see a surprising amount of battery lawn mowers for sale. I am not sure if people buy them then regret it or what. I will stick to gas mowers myself. I am still running an old school snapper which might be the best mower I ever owned and its over 20 years old.
The poor saps are buying those electric mowers out of GUILT, and within a year the battery dies, and they put them out on the curb for trash. Then their buying a used gas mower because they just work if they take care of them.
Love Honda mowers . Will those nice HRC wheels fit on a HRX ?
I'd venture to say YES, "but I'm not sure" !.
Unable to find one used, however, I found one brand new at a local dealer. I pulled the plug, and I should have had peace of mind until I packed it in and placed it in a box.
Just picked up one of these from my dealer. Used by a homeowner once a week for 5 years. Perfect shape. $600. I thought I got a good deal, but $250? That's a steal! What is the 3M coating you used on the underside of the deck before the fluid film?
Just 3M Rubberized Undercoating. I now have 4 of these, and I'm quite sure many more will pop up as things get "worse" amid the fossil fuel setting / & the guilt factor.
Great vidoe, I'm an HRC216 owner myself, im not a mechanic and just do basic maintenance so I learned a lot this video. Is there a reason that the rpms arent as strong as before? It doesn't go as fast anymore, would greasing the ball bearings like you did help with that? Is it just grease that you put on them?
That won't help (in an RPM regard), and I wouldn't really worry about your "little personality change" amid the governed speed. It CAN be moved, but I'm quite sure that overall you are happy with the machines performance ? / and there is a governor spring, that perhaps has lost just a tiny bit of tinsel (strength) ... so, if your running the motor and look on the left side; you will see a network of links / and it is there that you'll find an "arm" that you carefully can bend to INCREASE spring "tinsel" strength. *I know this won't make a lot of sense, but I'm afraid that it's rather involved to do this procedure unless your well familiar with the machines "build".
END RUN: you haven't any "real-issue" right ? / SO then; "just leave things alone" / but KNOW that under ANY load, the machine WILL compensate for ANY "load" that you can happen to throw at it / = "everything's ok". 🙃
Just keep the blades nice n' sharp, give it a bit of a lube, and you'll enjoy FOREVER performance. Take CARE.
Thanks Tommy 😊
$250.00 !!! What a steal.
Take the Lawn Mower and run 🎶🎵🎶
Just WATCH in your area !, Many more are happening along as people feel they're literally "committing a crime" even having these gas-powered machines !. "CRAZY" !! ............... (MY opinion).
$250 you should have played the lottery that day. I just spent $1400 out the door. Last one in Tampa dealerships. I was happy to pay it. These things aren’t coming back and I’m over the battery powered ramp up / down blade speed BS cut.
ROFLOL ! "I gotca" !! THEY are AMAZING !.
I bought 2 for 200$ each non running. and sold each one for 800$ each after I worked on them.
There's a flood of them AT TIMES !! ... "so just watch and ye' shall find" !.
Can you ship to Texas? Great unit and great job tuning up!
Just wait and watch ... "their everywhere". 🙃
Sad honda isn't producing these anymore
I'm looking for that exact mower. HRC2016 Commercial Honda. I live in Fresno.
I guess powered battery powered trimmers are great for homeowners who only “edge”the yard every two weeks!
I’m serious. Homeowners who don’t use them commercially. They would be good string trimmers and things smaller than that!
Perhaps even small chainsaw for occasionally use. But lawnmowers & especially riding mowers NO!!
250? You stole that mower! I just bought a brand new one for 1600 bucks... 😂😂😂
That's what my original Video was ABOUT (I paid the same), but NOW many want rid of / and are getting rid of "gas-anything" amid that 'guilt factor' I preface here. Thus far, I have 3 machines ... "THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL UNITS". 😉
@@TommyZTrains mines still in the box, my 20 year old 216 still goes....but for how long? The new one will stay in the box for the foreseeable future.
ROFLOL. 🙃@@f4fake22
I love Greenie guilt!😂
Ship them to Pittsburgh pa ,, can find any HRC216
"can find" ? ... Boy there all over the place here !.
Crazy is great for homeowners and landscapers you want great lawnmowers for a fraction of the price!😂
I use the same clamp on my Honda
"I think just about everyone does" !!
I got 2 great working machines
💪🏽
gas rules battery mowers suck donkey butt. I got the 2nd to top ego mower last year it sucks hate it, can't even sell it no one wants it hardly used. I now have the hrn 216 love it.
ata-boy !
Maybe honda will make a electric lawn mower that can run 24 hours..
Possibly, but I think it's in our being fair, that we REMEMBER that this stuff is ever evolving, and whatever happens / Honda's not stupid and IF it is a "24 hour" thing, (your remark), then it likely bring excellence toward the setting.
Good work TommyZ 🫡 electric mowers are for people with tiny yards like mine 🤣 not for a real man’s yard
Agree with that (a SMALLER yard).