Driving In Rush Hour Traffic... With A Tilton Twin Plate Race Clutch
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- Driving in rush hour traffic with a Tilton twin plate clutch. The internet told me this car wouldn't be driveable on the street, but here we are 8+ years later. It's certainly not like driving a stock car - but it's not too bad once you get the hang of it.
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I bought a car that has twin disc and it feels like I'm learning to drive a manual all over again. I hate having to be at a complete stop, feels like I'm riding my clutch so much just to get it moving in 1st gear (also reverse). I am now one of those annoying guys that seems to always rev up my engine for no reason lol. Thanks for the tips and making this video!
I feel exactly the same after installing a Tilton ST-246 twin disc racing clutch rated 1250 ftlbs just about a week ago. It’s a pain going uphill in a stop and go traffic😝 Pair it with a RPM B3 cam with some surging and it’s another challenge. I like the way it grabs when you’re racing, there’s no slip at all. Other than that, it is just a matter of time getting used to driving it in heavy traffic.
I'm in the process of buy a Nissan S15 with orc twin plate clutch and not sure what to expect as I never drove a twin plate clutch yet, this was the most informative video I could find and it was cool to see local roads as well. Thanks for sharing
Good technical hints heel on the Floor,thanks 😊.
Ahhh I miss my home province. I love seeing The Beer Store trailers. Sick ass MR-2 as well!
I got not even, 10,000 Ks from my twin plate ceramic of nightmare daily driving before it ruined my push bearings, drive shaft, diff and my left leg muscles. But it was so much fun and still worth it. Great vid 👍
Best comment on this video haha
Which car?
Awesome video man, I have been on mine tilton since 2013 and love it. I needed it for the power level I am on. I was a pain at first. But after a few weeks it's all good. I forget get how stock clutches feel when I drive other sticks. They feel weird to me. Anyways cool video man.
This was helpful, thanks! My Toyota Aristo has a twin plate rated to 850ft lb. I'll try riding it a bit more to get going.
Ended up with what must be an agressive ceramic twin disc spec supertwin in my C4 Corvette when I swapped it from auto to 6 speed.
It was included in a bunch of swap parts I purchased from a partout. No info was given about the clutch. I figured it would be fairly aggressive, but it truly is like learning to drive stick again.
This setup has no mercy. It is almost like an on/off switch. I have gotten used to it though. Now when I get in anything else with a stick, it feels extremely odd.
Launching at the track on street tires was also a bit of a learning curve.
his car is on the verge of stalling... "this car is fine for the streets"
Would this same concept apply to daily driving a 6 puck sprung clutch with a lightweight flywheel?
I think a 6 puck is miles better than a twin plate
This is exactly what i was looking for. A person that might be just as crazy as me with the parts choice. I am currently looking for flywheel and clutch options for my next daily driven car. And its kind of hard to find what i want because im putting an audi v8 in front of a bmw transmission. So no of the shelf clutch and pressureplate options are available. Actually no affordable flywheel options either. But the main issues i was thinking of where is it going to be impossible to drive in stop and go traffic, but it dosnt seem to be worse then my ceramic 4 puck in my current car. Its all about good clutch control and then it should be fine right?
But the other issue i was thinking about is noise. Cant really tell to well from the video. But how bad is the noise? My current clutch is the unsprung 4puck wich sometimes makes so much noise, its sounding like the gearbox is actually falling apart. And then you push the clutch pedal and its all silent. And with the twinplates some people say they are worse, some say they are not. But you seem to be 1 of the only guys driving it on the street, so you might be the best source for this information.
I can only comment on the cerametallic Tilton, but it's pretty loud. It's quiet at idle but rattles when you push the clutch in. Lots of noise on decel and loud squawking in reverse (and in forward gears when it gets hot). I could definitely see it being annoying for a daily driver. I think a clutch with carbon plates would be quieter and easier to drive, but at a higher cost.
@@CanadianGearhead with the squawking i think you mean a sort of screaming noise right? But that is probably when you ride the clutch? My current 4 puck is doing that as well. But im not driving in reverse the whole day, so not too much of a problem. But the noise on decel might be a problem. Might have to think about it.
And the price of a carbon clutch is so stupidly high i dont even consider it an option at this point. For the price of that i could add a shitload of insulation to the car wich would also help against heat.
And i also looked at some of the dual plate options the germans allready use for their cars. The bmw m5 e60 with a manual trans has a dual plate clutch. But it can only handle 700nm, and i expect to end above that, more towards the 700ft/lbs your clutch should be able to handle. And there are very few clutches that can handle that.
You can hear the noise I'm talking about in reverse in my 5 Things I Hate video. But it also makes the screaming noise when you ride it too haha. The noise on decel would probably be the thing that bothered me most if I drove it daily. It sounds like the trans is going to blow up. Sort of similar to straight cut gear whine, but sounds more like death.
It's a tough call because driving a car that highly modified daily is going to mean making a lot of compromises. Personally I'd just build the car to function properly and buy a beater to drive daily.
Hello there, I drive a twin plate clutch on a daily basis, the only problem I’m facing is when moving uphill from a stop/heavy traffic on a slope and my car will shakes a lot, have you encounter this type of situation? My clutch is unsprung type. Btw nice ride you got there. Cheers
Really need to ride it on hills but in that situation it's just kind of the nature of the beast
I’m the same when the cops come out lol. I roll down my tinted windows and hope they aren’t dicks about the loud exhaust or revs and cheeps they may have heard previously. I’m currently looking into twin disc coming off a mcloud street extreme single disc that I currently have. Im looking into a twin disc because I want to supercharge my 2011 mustang. But it’s completely a street car that I may want to take a few passes down the track with. The traffic and local driving has me anxious, am I making a mistake? I don’t want my driving experience to be limited, I want to drive spirited and for it to last. I’m not sure that exists. It’s been suggested that I throw a stock clutch in it but I don't want RPM lock out either. Granted I am still limited to my stock engine and MT82 trans, I want the clutch to handle whatever I throw at it. I was looking into the mcloud rst at first then decided to entertain the exedy hyper twin. Maybe I should just get the same Mcloud single disc street clutch I had rate to 700hp?
How long/how many miles did the clutch last you??
Still going!
@@CanadianGearhead it’s been a few years now, have you noticed any changes over time?
what clutchplate? rigid or spring, organic or cerametallic or full sinter plate
Spring, cerametallic
which tilton is this? the 5.5? the 7.25??
The GWB during rush hour traffic 😑..pretty much a Humongous parking lot.
It's been a while, but just wondering how many miles you got on the clutch and if you've removed it...what condition were the pilot bearing and throwout bearing in? The combined extra clearance between the extra parts of that type of disc makes me wonder how hard they are on the two bearings. Thanks for any information 👍
Not sure how many miles are on it, it's still in the car and working perfectly
Nice BOV sound, which one is it?
HKS SSQV
@@CanadianGearhead Awesome, thanks!
Do you have a hydraulic release bearing? Want to put the Tilton kit on my STI, not sure about streetability.
Is it heavy, or just on/off switch grabby? I never cared for a heavy clutch
How do you if you need to park on an incline? On reverse. It’s bad to press on the clutch while driving right?
I didn't hear a single "aboot" or "eh", nor did I see a moose. I call shenanigans on this being a Canadian video.
I'm not surprised the clutch is reasonably drivable. Conventional wisdom is so often wrong that I rarely give it any credence.
Well I'm in Southwestern Ontario so it's basically Michigan but with more maple syrup
@@CanadianGearhead I'm vaguely familiar with the area. I used to drive for a company out of Oswego, NY that hauled fire hydrants out of a plant in Kingston, ON. Quite often, the quickest route to my destination was across the 401 and over the Ambassador bridge into Detroit. It was always bizarre... like going from "Pleasantville" into Fallujah.
Here's an amusing international anecdote; I once ran into a Canadian driver down in Laredo, TX... about as far from home as he could get. We had an epic conversation. He was "eh"ing everything, I was "y'all"ing everything, I'm sure it would have made quite the comedy sketch.
I did hear some aouts (out) in the video tho 😄
I don't think that the race clutch is that difficult to use in traffic once you are used to. And it certainly helps quick changes which is what you hope for when you drive a heavily boosted car with a turbo lag. Actually, I don't think that turbo lag is that bad as you wanted to describe in your earlier video. The engine is running smoothly and I get the impression that in a trackday it would be awesome. The only thing that i didn't like in your car is the ride that looks really stiff and bumps and shakes...If you can afford it you should consider installing air suspension. (Greetings from a MR2 W30 owner) EDIT - I haven't watched the video 5 Things I HATE About My TOYOTA MR2 TURBO, I am going to do it now)
The bumps and shakes were exaggerated because of the camera mount, but it does ride stiff. Doesn't bother me though.
I just got an OS Giken TS2BD installed and it’s ridiculous. So hard to take off without stalling or revving too much.
Did you ever get used to it?
I’m just curious because I recently bought an Infiniti G35 2004 6 speed, and it had some kind of race clutch installed by the previous owner… and I’m pretty much melting from stress every time I drive it. such a jerky car. I’m sure I’ll get used to it… hopefully.
@@donkler5476 I did get used to it. But I still stall sometimes. It helped to get it to the biting point and then doing several blips of the throttle until I get going smoothly. These clutches bite hard and fast, so you have to slip the clutch until you get to a decent speed then you can gently let off from there. As long as you don’t rev it to 3k, 4K rpm, you should not have to worry about burning the clutch.
@@BourneThisWay Awesome. I’ll remember that. Do you enjoy driving the car now, or is it always a bit frustrating?
@@donkler5476 It’s a bit annoying sometimes because I daily the car and often get stuck in traffic.
@@donkler5476more power to you. I am trying my best to daily drive mine and punish myself just to get used to it as quickly as possible.
How much gear lash do you hear when on low throttle and when you let off the throttle on deceleration? Not necessarily low rpms, maybe 3 to 4k
It's mainly just the sound of the clutch discs rattling on decel
@@CanadianGearhead Interesting.. Okay thanks for your reply! If you find yourself really bored today take a look at my video and see if that resembles anything you've heard from a multi-plate clutch. It's more noticable second half of video. If you don't find the time, I already appreciate your reply.
Just installed an RPS C/C Twin disc into my Supra and my accel/decel noises are concerning me.
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I'm thinking of buying a Tilton clutch. Does it make a ringing sound when clutched in? I'm on an ATS carbon twin plate and it makes a really loud ringing sound when I'm clutched in (it sounds amazing).
I think that's a typical thing with multidisc clutches. My 280z with a quartermaster twindisc makes the same ringing.
@@NateSpring I've tried a few clutches. The ATS rings the loudest so far. I often get asked by others at the traffic light if my car is spoiled! LOL
Make one on a steep incline
Good idea
fuck hell no hahhaahha
Handbrake and precise movements🤷♂️
this is a sintered iron disc?
I always hear my clutch disk slamming whenever I upshift in low to medium rpm. any suggestions?
Find the sweet spot. I found that my twin plate shifts smoothly at higher RPMs, as opposed to my stock clutch that was smoother in lower RPMs.
Hella weird comment but what stereo head unit is that???
It's an old school Kenwood one
Its not bad at all just had to get used to it but its better than my OS Giken twin in my E36
What are the actual clutch specs 7.25?
Good way to break those clutches in is stop and go traffic
They sure do like heat
Everyone that hears "Race Clutch" automatically assume its gunna be harsh and stiff pedal feel. Most Twin Disc clutch are slightly heavier than stock, Bite and friction point is close to stock. You wont even notice the difference if you didnt know
better than single disc 3/6 puck setup? i have those and the friction point is narrow so a little difficult at first but definitely stressful in uphill situation.
What does race clutch do ? Anything heavy or what?
Holds more power, lighter weight so the engine revs quicker. Also scares off 99% of people wanting to drive off in your car ;)
@@CanadianGearhead theyre unable to lmao
Stall it 24/7
@@DhirC35 lol my dad drove my car once.... he said I don't need car alarm because the thief wouldnt be able to drive away with it.
@@Cranky-Panda hehehheee. Thats true. One of my friends has a 3 puck clutch in his car
A thief tried to steal it but stalled it continuously
Now show us how well you are able start from a stop on a steep hill. I already know its not possible. You will have to spin them or stall.
Oh fuck it, if you can do it in a high horse power car so can I in my vw bug. I'll stall a 13 lb flywheel and a unsprung clutch in a few days just because I can
This gives me so much anxiety 😅
If you're working out your left leg, might as well delete powersteering then, huh.. :D
Car didn't come with power steering :)
is your idle going up and down due to bigger cams?
It does have bigger cams but the surging idle is because I'm not running an IAC. It'll do that in colder weather.
Oh ok i just bought a built civic and it has no iac either and i cant seem to get the idle on point. When the idle is consistent, it tends to stall when i give it gas. So I’m thinking i just need to deal with the high surging idle but im not used to racecars so im just scared to blow it up lol
I found that at least with my setup, setting the idle a bit high and fairly rich is what it likes. It's normally fairly stable.
Long story short for all you noobs. Unless your making north of 600hp you're wasting your time effort & money with twin plate its serving you no purpose with anything less then 600hp
Downtown Toronto Torture!
Haha it'll have to wait until springtime, but if that's what the people want, that's what the people get!
Do you daily this clutch?