Awesome videos, being a life time member has allowed us to complete one full remodel and now we're starting a new basement shower/bathroom from scratch.
Well, I went with wedi the first time and other than cost, it worked out great. I'm gonna go with their shower pan combo with this one as well as a bench and led niche..tile floor the whole bathroom... looking forward to the task
Special thanks in reference to "where" to cut the pex pipe to install a fitting, in this case the "T." Nobody, I mean NOBODY mentions this in any pex video I've watched Thanks!
Great video. I like the Delta valve as well. I use the one with the shut off valves and for Pex-A. One thing I like to do is put one or two wraps of Teflon tape around the threads for the bonnet nut that holds the cartridge in. I only do this that so it makes it easier to get the bonnet nut off when the valve has to be replaced.
Very timely.. I'm getting ready to redo a shower and have to replace the old faucet with a new Delta unit. Never used PEX before so a bit nervous. Your video helped.
I like the tip about cutting the vertical pex flush with the bottom of the horizontal, and then cutting the horizontal flush with side of the vertical. I wonder if that trick works the same with sweat fittings?...or flare fittings?
Nice tutorial. I like the stainless steel cinch clamps instead of the copper rings for my PEX b installs. The same tool works for the different sizes and it doesn't require the go/no go gauge.
@@HomeRepairTutor for a DIYer, it's too pricey for the tools and materials. PEX B is also better in some ways, like being less likely to burst under pressure.
@@HomeRepairTutor A is the superior product. I find it easier to work with as well. One of the best things is the ability to fix kinks by heating it up.
@@HomeRepairTutor Same. Wirsbo. I am not crazy about the manifolds from any company though. Have to be careful attaching the tube and can't fix leaking packing nuts. I stopped using on antifreeze systems. The quality of everything is better with that brand though.
I would usually come off of the valve with copper and hit it with a couple split rings before I go to pex. You want it to be more steady. I'm a licensed plumber in Massachusetts.
Awesome video well done and clean work I would have mentioned the measurements from center of valve and and height of shower head and valve and also code requirements but overall great plumbing
Pex tubing/ plumbing does not require water hammers ever. What exactly do you think would make any noise with plastic tubing? I've been plumbing since before pes ever existed.
I wanted to split off my 3/4 line to have the master bath on a separate zone. Can I split 1/2 from the 3/4 and run up a 8 ft wall directly to the fixture or do I have to run 3/4 up the wall?
I need to get this done on my Condo as a refurb Put a couple of valves in to stop water flow so I can replace things without having to have water turned off to the entire building. Put inline filters on both the hot and cold side (iron and mineral issues) 50yo+ building where the main water line in the roof is Galvanized, but each unit has copper branching off.
What’s the difference between the copper rings with the red spacer on it and the copper rings without the red spacer? Is it just so you get consistent spacing and jam that red spacer up against the fitting?
Hi, great video. I'm hearing that switching a 1/2-inch copper pipe to pex B will cause water flow issues due to the pex fittings and could cause plumbing issues later. What is your thoughts? Tks for the input.
Delta valves are totally worth the cost. Pex is fast and forgiving if you make mistakes. I find that Pex on the shower does reduce water pressure from the shower nozzle. Good if you want to save water. I might not have done Pex on the master shower if I had to do it over.
Its your debris screen on your shower head or your old PRV or many different factors. Pex has nothing to do with pressure. It is used in commercial setups and is trusted.
Heights are generally 38” to 48” for the valve based on NKBA recommendations and Shower heads depend on the user, but 82” to 84” is a good place to start
excellent video. do you test the line for leaks before finishing the drywall ? also does the PEX pipe system can work for laundry lines? I prefer this method than the brass type of course
I am on a well system and get no where near 50 psi currently have 1/2 copper that keep getting pin hole leaks I want to install pex to avoid the leaking but can not get straight answers to if the water flow will be restricted or not
The only down side I can see is that water Hammer arrestors have rubber diaphragms that eventually fail and you need to replace the unit, how would you access it? I'd think it would be better further down the line maybe in the basement where you can access it. As long as it's before the valve it will do its job of absorbing shock.
You can also use the rubber part of your pliers to lightly crimp the ring in place then finish it off with your crimp tool. Some crimp tools also have a pre crimp feature as well.
Normally up against the drywall or the back of the 2x4 stud wall. But you still want to use the plaster guard to ensure the valve is at the correct depth
Are those Diaphramed air chambers? Is there a code where you are for them to be accessible for servicing? I have allways been taught to use copper for the riser peice for the shower head. Does pex slow down your shower pressure?
PEXa expansions should give you minutely more pressure, and PEXb fittings likely drops a very small bit. At this point very few local codes should require water hammer arresters (diaphragmed air chambers) for PEX and CPVC.
any color pex at any point is okay. future plumbers following logic might not like you though. There is sometimes oxygen barrier needed for some heating applications. PEXa only systems do not work with PEXb pipe/tubing.
You can also dry fit the whole set up and then pull away from board a little to get better clearance with your crimp tool. Of course get it where you want it first nice and level and plumb. Make sure nailing board is plumb if installing a tub spout and use copper for that
Where do you find the pex valves? They stopped carrying them in the stores years ago. I had so many call backs for leaks while using threaded adapters, I went back to soldering all my shower and tub valves.
What do you do if you are working in a space that doesn't allow for the use of the tool? (Can't open it wide enough). Also, can you connect new Pex to old Pex?
there are a few recommendations set by Delta and the National Kitchen and Bath Association. Delta recommends this valve be set such that the plaster guard roughly within 1/4” of the finished wall, their directions vary for valves with integrated shut offs, so read the directions carefully. The height recommended by the NKBA is between 38” and 48” off the finished tile floor - it’s a wide range to suit the height of the user.
You can put it however high you want the shower head usually goes at like 75 in from the ground main thing to remember is the pressure builders he has on the mixing valve and if you dont sana use them then tie your lines back into eachother so the valve will build pressure eveenly
@@3807shawn Those are arrestors sparky, not pressure builders(?). They alleviate water hammer when you shut the faucet off. You can't tie your got and cold lines together
Great video I'm getting ready to swap out my tube for a shower unit it very confused on which crimper to buy What crimper did you use it looks perfect Thank you
@@andrewandrewa224 happy to help any time, I recommend checking out supplyhouse.com for PEX rings and fittings. Their shipping is fast and prices are fair 👍🏼
If you use a 2x10 board to secure the mixing valve, at what depth do you have to set it so it will be at the appropriate depth for when the backer board and tile are done?
The black square plastic depth gauge (seen in video at 1:21 ), included with the valve, needs to be set so that the finished wall is within the width of that black plastic. His was a hair inside of the finished tile wall, which is usually close enough.
never seen a hammer arrest on a shower system... interesting. always check your go/nogo rotating it as sometimes crimp rings can warp into an oval shape. Nice video
You never seen them on a shower system because they are not needed. 🤣😂 this is so stupid. And he ran it in pex so then you have even less banging of the pipes. 😃😃
Thank you so much for not adding all the extra fluff that so many people use. Nice and simple with no monologue.
Excellent video. Straight forward with tips...Like the plate tip on the 2x4 to protect the pipe! Thank you!
Awesome videos, being a life time member has allowed us to complete one full remodel and now we're starting a new basement shower/bathroom from scratch.
that’s awesome news buddy!! Super excited to see your project. What kind of shower are you building?
Well, I went with wedi the first time and other than cost, it worked out great. I'm gonna go with their shower pan combo with this one as well as a bench and led niche..tile floor the whole bathroom... looking forward to the task
@@anthonymyers-35 sounds like an awesome renovation!!
EXTREMELY HELPFUL 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
New project upcoming and I have never used pex. But, thanks to your video, I believe that I can do it. Thank You. No more soldering (maybe)
Special thanks in reference to "where" to cut the pex pipe to install a fitting, in this case the "T." Nobody, I mean NOBODY mentions this in any pex video I've watched Thanks!
Great video. I like the Delta valve as well. I use the one with the shut off valves and for Pex-A. One thing I like to do is put one or two wraps of Teflon tape around the threads for the bonnet nut that holds the cartridge in. I only do this that so it makes it easier to get the bonnet nut off when the valve has to be replaced.
Your job is so clean my man
WOW QUICK AND EASY!! GREAT JOB!!!
Great clean job and tutorial with Beginners in mind... I appreciate your hard work.
Very timely.. I'm getting ready to redo a shower and have to replace the old faucet with a new Delta unit. Never used PEX before so a bit nervous. Your video helped.
What is the depth of your drop ear elbow for the shower arm from the stud face?
Great video! Easy to follow. THANKS!
I like the tip about cutting the vertical pex flush with the bottom of the horizontal, and then cutting the horizontal flush with side of the vertical. I wonder if that trick works the same with sweat fittings?...or flare fittings?
was a complete and informative video, thanks
Helped me out a lot - thanks for posting
Awesome 🙌🏼🔥
You have to use same diameter as your old galvanized pipe ?
Wanting to run pex ondef ground for outdoor water valve is 1/2 in ok or should i use 3/4 to 1 inch for better water pressure
Huge help. Thank you very much.
Nice I use stainless steel clamps now great video
Great video! Thanks for your help!
Nice tutorial. I like the stainless steel cinch clamps instead of the copper rings for my PEX b installs. The same tool works for the different sizes and it doesn't require the go/no go gauge.
thanks for the tips, how do you feel about PEX A?
@@HomeRepairTutor for a DIYer, it's too pricey for the tools and materials. PEX B is also better in some ways, like being less likely to burst under pressure.
@@HomeRepairTutor A is the superior product. I find it easier to work with as well. One of the best things is the ability to fix kinks by heating it up.
@@IslandPlumber it’s a great product, I like Uponor but what’s your preferred type?
@@HomeRepairTutor Same. Wirsbo. I am not crazy about the manifolds from any company though. Have to be careful attaching the tube and can't fix leaking packing nuts. I stopped using on antifreeze systems. The quality of everything is better with that brand though.
Very cool product. Can't wait to use on my next shower.
I would usually come off of the valve with copper and hit it with a couple split rings before I go to pex. You want it to be more steady. I'm a licensed plumber in Massachusetts.
hit it with a couple split rings?
@@blueplasma5589 hangers
Thank you so much
Awesome video well done and clean work I would have mentioned the measurements from center of valve and and height of shower head and valve and also code requirements but overall great plumbing
Great stuff. Thank you 🙏
AWESOME work !
Pex tubing/ plumbing does not require water hammers ever. What exactly do you think would make any noise with plastic tubing? I've been plumbing since before pes ever existed.
I wanted to split off my 3/4 line to have the master bath on a separate zone. Can I split 1/2 from the 3/4 and run up a 8 ft wall directly to the fixture or do I have to run 3/4 up the wall?
Yes, 👍🏼
@@HomeRepairTutor so I can do either ? Does it matter if it’s 1/2 or 3/4 running up a wall or should I split the 1/2 closer to the fixture ?
I've been debating on Pex A, B or copper and I think you convinced me to go with B. Thanks. Nice video.
I really like A but you need the expansion tool
A is the best. B fittings are smaller and choke the water flow a bit.
Pex A is better
Copper is better
I need to get this done on my Condo as a refurb
Put a couple of valves in to stop water flow so I can replace things without having to have water turned off to the entire building.
Put inline filters on both the hot and cold side (iron and mineral issues)
50yo+ building where the main water line in the roof is Galvanized, but each unit has copper branching off.
I like your channel
What’s the difference between the copper rings with the red spacer on it and the copper rings without the red spacer? Is it just so you get consistent spacing and jam that red spacer up against the fitting?
Hi, great video. I'm hearing that switching a 1/2-inch copper pipe to pex B will cause water flow issues due to the pex fittings and could cause plumbing issues later. What is your thoughts? Tks for the input.
Delta valves are totally worth the cost. Pex is fast and forgiving if you make mistakes. I find that Pex on the shower does reduce water pressure from the shower nozzle. Good if you want to save water. I might not have done Pex on the master shower if I had to do it over.
Your crazy there’s no way you can tell that minor drop in psi you nut
Its your debris screen on your shower head or your old PRV or many different factors. Pex has nothing to do with pressure. It is used in commercial setups and is trusted.
Question fo you. What is that right hight for valve and shower Head installation
Heights are generally 38” to 48” for the valve based on NKBA recommendations and Shower heads depend on the user, but 82” to 84” is a good place to start
Thank you
Nice tips buddy Thanks for all information all experience
Wow that was awesome!! Thanks bud!!💪
Hopefully it was helpful 👍🏼
Is the straight pipe to shower head ok for thermal expansion?
Quick question, what are we doing with that bottom opening? Cap it?
How far back did you recess the 2 x 10 to put the control valve and how do you figure that out?
Yes this delta shower valve is the best in the market and price reasonable. Plus if you ever need a part delta is always lifetime
Awesome video! Can the hammer arrestors be installed upside down? My water source comes from the top.
REALLY NICE, THANK YOU.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for that video
Are water hammer arrestors required to be accessible?
they really should be cause they need to be replaced every 10 years.
Good tutorial
Do you solder all the way around the pipes or just halfway?
Good morning👍👍
What brand is that carthridge?
Can I use the red or blue pipe where you used the white "riser" pipe? What's the difference? Thanks in advance..
Nice clean well laid out work. I hate seeing plumbers or anyone for that matter doing sloppy work.
Did u leave access for future service of the arrestors in the wall ?
an access panel can be added
What does the water hammer do ? What is its function ?
it absorbs the shock of water stopping suddenly when valves are turned off
Can you use a shower valve with the bottom tub part even if you only
Have a shower? Like by just plugging the tub out.
Good advice, thank you..👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽🤠
thank you 👍🏼🔥
Is m18 milwaukee tool ok to use for crip the pex??
excellent video. do you test the line for leaks before finishing the drywall ? also does the PEX pipe system can work for laundry lines? I prefer this method than the brass type of course
Ton travail est propre ( clean)👍👍👍👍
Thank you 🙏🏼
Do you find that the water flow is restricted using these fittings?
No, as long as you have water pressure above 50 psi
I am on a well system and get no where near 50 psi currently have 1/2 copper that keep getting pin hole leaks I want to install pex to avoid the leaking but can not get straight answers to if the water flow will be restricted or not
The only down side I can see is that water Hammer arrestors have rubber diaphragms that eventually fail and you need to replace the unit, how would you access it? I'd think it would be better further down the line maybe in the basement where you can access it. As long as it's before the valve it will do its job of absorbing shock.
I noticed you are not using Shark Bite or any other commercial connectors other than crimping it to-is that a brass connector then?
Thank you man
🙏🏼🙏🏼
What does the white pipe in the middle do?
How will you access air hammers in future ??
awesome vid! do you have to worry about any type of corrosive reaction between the galvanized screws and the brass fittings?
i wish i knew about those crimp ring spacer. had to fight some of those ring while installing into odd position, would have save a lots of frustration
ya, spacers help a lot and keep the pipes stabilized while trying to crimp
You can also use the rubber part of your pliers to lightly crimp the ring in place then finish it off with your crimp tool. Some crimp tools also have a pre crimp feature as well.
You can lightly crimp the ri g with channel locks and it wont move do it under tubs all the time
How far back do I set the 2x10 inside the wall
Normally up against the drywall or the back of the 2x4 stud wall. But you still want to use the plaster guard to ensure the valve is at the correct depth
Are those Diaphramed air chambers? Is there a code where you are for them to be accessible for servicing? I have allways been taught to use copper for the riser peice for the shower head. Does pex slow down your shower pressure?
PEXa expansions should give you minutely more pressure, and PEXb fittings likely drops a very small bit. At this point very few local codes should require water hammer arresters (diaphragmed air chambers) for PEX and CPVC.
Thanks for the video! Is the "riser pipe" just 1/2 white pex?
any color pex at any point is okay. future plumbers following logic might not like you though. There is sometimes oxygen barrier needed for some heating applications. PEXa only systems do not work with PEXb pipe/tubing.
I worry about using pex in enclosed walls. Would mice be prone to eating it?
I like Uponor fittings.
same here, PEX A is awesome, I’ll have a video about that system down the road - do you use the M12 expansion tool?
@@HomeRepairTutor DeWalt Expansion Tool.
How many inches does the riser has to be between the shower head assembly and the valve?
There’s no guidance but normally 30-40” - it depends on the height of the main valve which is 38” to 45” off the floor for showers
What the height for the shower head value and the water sprout
Does diverter go on after body valve
You’d want to install the main valve then immediately install the diverter
You can also dry fit the whole set up and then pull away from board a little to get better clearance with your crimp tool. Of course get it where you want it first nice and level and plumb. Make sure nailing board is plumb if installing a tub spout and use copper for that
Well done.
Thanks
What’s the steel protector plates on the studs for?
so you don't shoot a nail through the pex by accident later
Where do you find the pex valves? They stopped carrying them in the stores years ago. I had so many call backs for leaks while using threaded adapters, I went back to soldering all my shower and tub valves.
I buy all my valves from build.com, they have both PEX A and PEX B valves from Delta
what are the purpose of the hammer valves?
What do you use the water hammer rester for?
What do you do if you are working in a space that doesn't allow for the use of the tool? (Can't open it wide enough). Also, can you connect new Pex to old Pex?
If my valve is listed as IPS connectors, can I use NPT to PEX adapters? Can’t find IPS to PEX anywhere.
Same issue
Wanting to build an outside shower is 1/2 pex the norm for this application?
Yes
Thanks You sir, it's helpfull
Is there a rule of thumb on how to figure depth of the valve and height of valve / shower head?
there are a few recommendations set by Delta and the National Kitchen and Bath Association. Delta recommends this valve be set such that the plaster guard roughly within 1/4” of the finished wall, their directions vary for valves with integrated shut offs, so read the directions carefully. The height recommended by the NKBA is between 38” and 48” off the finished tile floor - it’s a wide range to suit the height of the user.
You can put it however high you want the shower head usually goes at like 75 in from the ground main thing to remember is the pressure builders he has on the mixing valve and if you dont sana use them then tie your lines back into eachother so the valve will build pressure eveenly
You have to check the directions that come with the fixture for the depth.
@@3807shawn Those are arrestors sparky, not pressure builders(?). They alleviate water hammer when you shut the faucet off. You can't tie your got and cold lines together
Is PEX used any where in Illinois?
Great video I'm getting ready to swap out my tube for a shower unit it very confused on which crimper to buy What crimper did you use it looks perfect Thank you
thank you, I used SharkBite’s crimper for 1/2” PEX B 👍🏼
@@HomeRepairTutor awesome Thank you I'm going to subscribe to your channel look like great info👍
Does Delta make one with Pex A fittings?
yes, same set up with the PEX A fittings and capped bottom port for showers, you can get one on build.com for roughly $50 👍🏼🔥
@@HomeRepairTutor great thank you!
@@andrewandrewa224 happy to help any time, I recommend checking out supplyhouse.com for PEX rings and fittings. Their shipping is fast and prices are fair 👍🏼
@@HomeRepairTutor that’s who I use, they’re customer service and shipping are great!
@@andrewandrewa224 right!! I love them because of the selection and shipping, very convenient 💯
What's your opinion on SharkBite fittings?
I like them for exposed plumbing but prefer using PEX or soldered fittings inside shower walls
@@HomeRepairTutor Good point. I totally agree. Thanks for responding.
If you use a 2x10 board to secure the mixing valve, at what depth do you have to set it so it will be at the appropriate depth for when the backer board and tile are done?
The black square plastic depth gauge (seen in video at 1:21 ), included with the valve, needs to be set so that the finished wall is within the width of that black plastic. His was a hair inside of the finished tile wall, which is usually close enough.
@@selmaave9145 yeah, that image of the black gauge is only two seconds long, much too quick!
never seen a hammer arrest on a shower system... interesting. always check your go/nogo rotating it as sometimes crimp rings can warp into an oval shape. Nice video
You never seen them on a shower system because they are not needed. 🤣😂 this is so stupid. And he ran it in pex so then you have even less banging of the pipes. 😃😃
@@chrispino8249 I I ii I
why did the valve wiggle on both crimps of the copper rings? The valve isn't held firmly to the 2x10 block?
What the size between floor to head shower I know the size from floor to valve 45”
80-82". You can pipe higher if desired.
thank you
can you use pex a?
Yes, Delta makes a valve with the PEX A adapters
Where’s your pex pipe supports and access panels for your water hammer arrestors?
great video
great job and video! Just one point, I wouldnt wipe the flux off until after soldering/brazing; unless the flux manufacturer states todo so.
actually that was a really great tutorial format, quick and to the point
@@benbauer7016 thank you for your kindness and the feedback on flux
wont hurt a thing to wipe befor and after it cools
At what depth did you install the mixing valve? What depth and height for the drop ear elbow?
Code in most areas is 80” height for shower head and 48” for the mixing valve