My review of the Mimiq from TC Electronics
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- Normally, I don't do reviews of products. Even more odd is for me to review another company's pedal. However, today I'm going to break that streak and have some fun with the Mimiq from TC Electronics. It's a very cool effect if you are running stereo. If you're in a praise and worship band and going direct in, you'd be crazy NOT to have this in your arsenal. It's also highly effective if you run two different amps as well. If you use it in mono, with just one amp, the effect won't be as great, it's true potential shines in stereo, IMO. I'm also using a Rat pedal from proco and a Torpedo C.A.B. from Two notes here.
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a manufacturer who praises another manufacturer's product instead of trashing the competition?
i tip my hat in respect, sir...
thanks Dave :)
you are welcome, sir, & thanks for the thanks;
btw, i must admit that i have never tried 1 of your pedals, mainly because the music store i frequently shop at, a large canadian chain, does not carry them;
however, other stores in the area do carry your line, so i will go out someday, check them out &, with finances allowing, perhaps purchase 1 or more of your pedals...
I have to agree with you Dave, Brian is definatly one of few that show a high level of professionalism in a sometimes competitive industry, sometimes, to the point of unneeded rude and destructive behavior. Kudos Brian, excellent review as well.
I totally agree: respect! I think this FX is sometimes useful, but i like the more clean and direct tone.
Brian Wampler is the Master!! He's so above the competition... no more words...
As we are all gear junkies at heart, not excluding manufactures, people like yourself, that show that interest in others products, shows integrity in a world that lacks it in several areas, People like Brian, Robert, Josh and Tore are a blessing to the industry. I don’t mean to leave any other great designers out, These are just a few people who’s products I am familiar with and/or dealt with. Keep up the great vids Brian, Keep Rockin’ bro!
Thanks :)
The mere fact that you are humble enough to recognize another manufacturer's product is truly astounding and quite frankly refreshing. I shall buy a Plexi-Drive for this.
Thanks for this video. All other ones didn't show the subtle differences between added tightness and wet/dry etc. Like some others mentioned it's really refreshing to see somebody honestly reviewing their "competitors". So much so that I'm going to be taking a hard look and listen at all your pedals now. I don't own a Wampler now but will soon.
Great video, thanks!
I've always been a big TC fan, since my first 2290! I stumbled upon this effect already in 2007, in their NovaSystem and it was really amazing! Essentially, there were two oscillators, distant only a few cents one each other and in total stereo front. And you could program whether to send the oscillators negative or positive, giving the impression of two separate guitar playerz. As soon as the Mimiq came out, I bought it blindly, trusting that they had improved their initial idea at top level...and so they did! Great Brian, with this video you celebrate one of the most important sound factory in the world AND demonstrate us how humble and fantastic you are! Soooo proud to have some of your products in my rigs!!!
I've never heard a Tele sound more badass
Brian: "Here's my clean sound"
Me: "Ok, sounds nice"
Brian: "Here's the mimiq turned on"
Me: "Sounds cool I guess, but it didn't really do much that I can hear"
Brian: "And here's the Mimiq turned off"
Me: "Wait, now it sounds horrible! Turn it back on!"
Think his patronage of other builders is where Josh from JHS got the idea from.
Once you use a wet/ dry or just a stereo set up, it's tough going back.I do think there's still something special about a little 15 watt tube combo cranked.Tough call.
@@markferguson3745 ah but what about 2 15 watt amps is stereo ?
@@garyharrison8891 Similar, definitely.I suppose " stereo" is the wrong term, but if the amps are significantly diff, it has that type of feel.I go between both, as, especially at lower volumes, the balance between wet/ dry can be a headache.I do prefer simple as possible, but I initially liked the dry without the necessary buffers, - many drives and fuzzes lose a lot combined with buffers.It's the two separate, different , amps that's the important thing.
Peace.
Put your headphones on and you will hear the difference
It reminds me of back in the day I would use the chorus on my amp but turn the the depth and speed down to zero. It had a very similar effect. I would use it for the same reason, to widen my sound when I was the only guitar player in a cover band.
I REALLY like that you review other company's gear, shows you're not one of those stuck up corporate types
Sounds like the perfect pedal for 80's hair metal
Best presentation of the Mimiq that I have seen. Thanks so much!
You have a wonderful way about you, Brian. Thanks for all the great content, and creative technical wizardry.
Listening to this video in stereo really sold me on the pedal.
I love this pedal
When played with headphones, it gives a surround sound experience in a room
Even without headphones, it works in stereo.
I've never played through one of these, but this is exactly the option that a Boss GT 8 gives you when you select two different amps to play through simultaneously, in its Dual L/R mode. If you have two 1-12 combo amps, you can add varying milliseconds of delay between them and it gives you an enhanced stereo field effect, and you suddenly have access to very Vai and Johnson-esque sounds. I think it's very cool that it ended up in a stand-alone pedal.
Love dropping in to see what you gots. I'm with everyone else. Always a positive thing with you and often the humor. On top of that you're a damn fine picker. God bless you boy!
Thanks :)
Brian, thanks so much for the review, and especially the tip regarding using it in stereo. I bought one a few years back, wasn't overly impressed, and sold it. Just bought it again, and what a world of difference in stereo. It's one of the sounds--musical and non-musical!--I was hearing in my head.
So cool to do an episode on another company’s pedal - respect!
I run two amps. But I use the mimic only on one side in mono. with the dry all the way down. that way I have a true dry side, and can adjust the wet side to the desired effect. Sounds amazing!
Try it in one hour 🎉cool
I have the Mimiq, and use it when running directly into the auto interface. I use it in the Fx loop of a Digitech GSP 1101.
I think it's very cool the you reviewed another companies product, well played,. good demo.
That's a lot more subtle than I was expecting but I really like it. It's kind of what I always wished chorus pedals would do but don't.
The donner harmonic square does this exactly. Set the octaves at -0+ and it does an interesting chorus effect. It's really great.
Awesome demo dude! I love how you explored the full spectrum of the pedal with clean and dirty tones. Such a great tone too - Tele through a cranked Marshall, yum! I've been waiting for someone to invent this pedal and can't wait to add this to my arsenal. Of course, now I'll have to buy another amp 🤓
You rock sir, I'm excited that you have these informative videos. and it doesn't have to specifically be Wampler brand pedals. Thanks!
Nice an proper demo!! I usually find that the best setting for a real double tracking effect is in position 1, and with "effect" full up, "dry" between 1 and 3 o'clock, and "tightness" between 1 and 4 o'clock. Our earscheat us making us think the sound comes from the quickest source (that's left, "dry"), so by turning that one down a notch we experience a full leveled stereo image.
It's also good to put both amps as separated as you can, because if they're very close you'll get more of a blurred sort of chorused/short slap effect.
I'm having plenty of fun putting this thing in the Orange Rocker 32 stereo effects loop, and with two mikes my guitar sounds huge through the PA system in my gigs!
Hope it helps!
I bought this pedal because of this review. Love it. Thanks Brian.
Is there any way they could make the miniature guitar player inside the pedal more skilled than I am?
What I really need is a second guitar player with burning solos...
Hmmm 🤔
They have the wire tap riff recorder. You can get some other guitarist to record something into that for you.
Get a Pitchfork and Eight Step Program from EHX and set up the Eight Step to make the Pitchfork play arpeggios. It's a great way to get all those wheedily-wheedily sounds but you only have to provide the initial "Wee!"
You are so super cool! Thank you very much for this video! I think maybe TC Electronics would say thank you too!
Hey man, that was pretty cool of you to do such a great review of another company's product....
I call it as I see it... it's simply a great pedal! Keep in mind... I got into this biz because I'm a huge fan of gear and guitar tone in general. So regardless of who the company is, if I get a great piece of gear I'll make sure to do a video on it. :)
*****
Again, that's really cool of you. And it's also a sign of class on your part.
I certainly understand, we all start off as fans.... Speaking of, I'm a huge fan of your pedals. Always have been. I have a couple, and have my eye on more than a couple to add. So just keep them coming, please!
I did not expect a reply. Very cool. You seem to have a lot of that to go around..
Continued success to you at Wampler Pedals..... Thanks again.
This is why we love you and your pedals!
Question for you Brian. I've done a similar thing in my rig. First using a 100% wet delay on one side and later I used the Strymon DECO which has a Wide Stereo Mode (the implementation isn't the same, but same thing fundamentally). The problem I ran into was how to incorporate stereo effects, particularly reverb. It seems like the obvious thing is to plug it in after a pedal like this, and I did that for a little while until I started noticing a hollowness to the reverb sound, a phase alignment issue perhaps. The stereo image was messed up. So then I did mono reverb before the pedal. That was okay ... the effect has a stereo image, but I was losing some control over the stereo features internal to the effect itself. I thought of other ways I might go, but would like to hear your take on that. Thanks.
Hey Brian, Thank you for the video! Very informative. Hey question: As far as a double tracker.. Do you feel the Deco sounds better or is it equal with the Mimiq given they have different technology? I'm very curious to hear you thoughts on this. Thank you!!
Thanks , I have been having a good time with the two amps.
You are a very good guitar player. I like the mimiq...
Picked one up recently and am trying to get most from it. Thanks for the helpful tips.
Fantastic video, beautiful sound. Cannot imagine why anyone would try to listen to this pedal in mono and expect it to sound good.
Man, what amp are you using??
great tone, didnt know that Rat sounded that good
It's crazy that you're like an hour and a half away! Love your vids, the podcast, and your tones! Haven't had the chance to use your pedals yet. 😞
Brian, you are the MAN! Nice review as always. I've got Wampler and TC pedals on my board :)
+BlueRaja thanks!
I haven’t seen/heard one video on this pedal where it sounds like TWO different gtrs. It just doesn’t. Thickening, widening yes, it does that.
When these first came out I thought about getting one but the reviews I saw were not real impressive. Hearing the difference it made in your sound has rekindled my interest. I am using a wet dry stereo setup now
Thanks Brian. The suggestion to use this pedal for PW is exactly the solution I was looking for. This video is 10 months old. Have you come up with your own version yet. As the only electric guitarist in my group I do a lot of fill within every song. This type pedal will help immensely. Blessings to you and your team.
Hi Brian I love the videos very informative and touches on many aspects of the products you review.
would you mind sharing the impulse response for the torpedo cab you made specifically for this video could you make the file available? Or share the parameters for each setting? Thanks again
That pedal gives me a warm feeling deep down
Great review. Help me to understand the pedals order, you run the mimiq after the torpedo cab, and then the 2 outputs of the mimiq (stereo) directly into your audio interface? I want to try the same but the mimiq after my torpedo live. Thanks!
I saw Wampler Pedal and I knew I'd get a proper demonstration of this pedal, always love your videos and find them useful and informative. I think I am right to assume this, but wouldn't this pedal work well for me since I use a stereo setup? I don't use two amps but I use a rack preamp>rack FX>stereo out>stereo power amp> left-right cabs. I'd stick this pedal on the output of my FX before going into the power amp. Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated so thank you.
If it’s a stereo power amp then yes, should work well
Thank You. Your demo helped me a lot!!!👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽
My Pedal Board Sports The MIMIQ, As Well As The Wampler TUMNUS, PLEXI-DRIVE DELUXE, CATAPULP, And THIRTY SOMETHING Pedals Through 2 H&K 36 Watt TUBMEISTER, And TUBESCREAMER Amps. All Of Those Plus A DigiTech LUXE Are My Favorite Go To Pedals Out Of All Twenty Pedals. WALL OF YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME SOUND! Good Job With Your Review Brian. The Only Thing Better Than The Sound Of My *WAMPLER'S* Are 2 Of Them Though That MIMIQ.
I'm getting this and I'm not running stereo.
I get it.
Huge tones all day long, and I'm on board.
Nice, thanks for the review, I didn't know the rat survived, still have mine from 1980, better dust it off, will be checking out your stuff next.
Here's my review of most TC electronic pedals: I wish they put the inputs and outputs 2 or 3mm further apart. It makes a lot of 90deg type jumpers impossible to plug in to it
So true
You, sir, are epitome of class
in a word - Respect !!
should i run it last in my chain? I'm thinking send one to my amp and one to the PA/Front of house....? Cheers for the video dude!
this is not really a delay, per se... it's actually changing your input guitar in slight variances to mimic double tracking or quad tracking guitars. Best way to use this is obviously with two amps/cabs, or for recording, split off into 2 tracks in your DAW.
Straight and to the point. Thanks!
that might be a silly question but can it be used an a single amp ? just to fatten the sound ? i'm just trying to emulate the fattning sound of a mxr doubler flanger (but not interested in the flanger) and i tried a very short delay but i'm not convinced and it makes cuts in the sound, thanks for the review :)
It reminds me about the boss metalizer. i had (eighty's?) had also a 'doubler', output a and b, and wich some twisting from the knob's it sounds thick and fat. But this does the job very good too.
You're right. The boss MZ-2 was probably one of the first digital pedals of Boss. The MZ-2 has a doubling knob counting from I to III. Using a short delay to create "air" in your guitar tone. The only difference is that the MZ-2 uses the doubler with distortion. Without the pedal engaged it doesn't work. Like Deadastronaut said it's like the Haas effect.
very cool u do this for the love of gear,not to plug a product.. (u never mentioned Wampler at all)
says a lot about u,
,it enriches the scene in general,thanx Brian
Damn - it was starting to lose me with the needing two amps for it to shine thing but I will admit, that does sound subtly amazing.
I bought this pedal yesterday because of your review. I've got 3 of your pedals. If you had one of these out l would have purchased your version.
Great demo and the pedal sounds awesome in Stereo a bit Brian May I say🎸
It's very cool!! Awesome Brian!!
its the best right after guitar, in front of two separate chains.
God how do you do that?!
Help please at your own convenience please 🙏
@@Stereostupid You mean what, how to set it in front of two separate chains?
@@alexgl yeah I'm trying to figure out stereo wet dry and stuff I have an aby but I haven't really gone past that with hooking anything up ! I'm trying to understand a few more ideas new ideas to me !
@@Stereostupid in front of two chains means you plug your guitar into Mimiq and then you have two outs, each plugged into separate chain like “pedals/amp/cab”. Or whatever emulates this chain. For instance, you can have two combos or even a stereo ampsim on your computer. Thus you get a full kinda stereo sound like two guitarists play the same thing
Hello, just curious or a recommendation. Fuzz/Distortion before or after Mimiq? After = Coming out of the Mimiq into two different fuzz pedals then into two separate amps from each pedal. Love YOUR pedals Keep up the great work!
That’s a great question, and it cold really be either way. Sometimes it’s fun to run two different types of gain pedals into two totally separate amps, and other times you may just want some sort of stereo effect, so the answer is really “it depends!”
I really wanted to enjoy the Mimiq, but I had really bad problems with odd artifacts jumping quite abruptly across the stereo field, I had sudden loss of top end with quite dramatic phase canceling all in all not a pleasant sound. This was especially noticeable on acoustic clean sounds. I thought it was a really good idea, but the realization of the idea just did not 'cut the mustard' for me in the product. I got a far better effect from splitting the signal and putting a very small delay and a Digitech Luxe on one side. that aside, I thought it was very refreshing and professional to see a manufacturer discussing another companies products in a good critical manner.
Nice review, very helpful. Thanks!
Neat! That's a good idea! I do that in the box, but a pedal! Hells yeah!
When we run stereo, our sound guy just delays one of the channels by a few milliseconds to get this effect. Not a bad idea for a pedal though. Just don't think it'll be taking up space in too many pedal boards in a church setting.
That’s not the same thing. That would be more like a slapback type effect. It does thicken things up, but the Mimiq is working differently than that.
The TC is actually doing a lot more than that. Imagine if your sound guy was _dynamically_ manipulating that delay as well as _dynamically_ making minor adjustments to the "tuning," and then running it through a stereo separation algorithm. Many of these techniques are "standard" ideas, but it was really a stroke of genius to build them all into a single pedal. Tons of fun.
Better than TC’s own demo, thank u.
+Wampler Pedals great video! I have a Katana 50w- does the Mimiq need an effects loop to do its doubling? I agree the Mimiq is probably best in a stereo setup with 2 amps, but will it work at all if I put it in front of my Katana 50w (a 1x12)?
No, you need two different amps
I didn't really appreciate this pedal until I saw this demo.
Your the MAN Brian ! To see you review someone else's gear you must be a total gear head..... Worse than me !
I would still rather hear it used with the Pinnacle though.... Cause that's why I would by it.
To me it sounds much like the "Detune" from Zoom when using stereo amps/recording. I use that quite often for over 20 years now. Do you agree Brian, or is it something completely different?
I got this last week. Still trying to get it right. Seems like it will be cool for recording, but not sure about live.
Interesting pedal man. Thanks for sharing! :)
and there goes more money...
Brian do you know how much headroom it has if I was to use it post line out from my amp (either into a cab emulation or a clean stereo power amp into two speakers)?
Im confused where to put a delay pedal with this pedal in the chain. Whether stereo in into a delay pedal? Or a mono delay pedal before the doubler?
I love it. Very cool. Might have to get one being a one guitar player in a 3 piece.
nice review and your great riffs seem enhanced by the pedal
Hello, thanks for the demo Brian, i have this pedal on my pedalboard and i've read something on the TC site that if you were using the overdrive channel of your amp and not pedals to create your overdriven tone, it was better to put the Mimic on your loop? What do you think about it? In fact, i'm playing on a Mesa Triple rectifier and i'm using the three channels but i also have some overridden pedals such as the Tumnus, The Clarksdale, TS-808, a tone bakery double creme and i'm controlling all that stuffs with a one control, where is the best position for it, as i've putted it at the very end of my signal..or at the very end of the effect loop???
+Olivier Troupin that's a tough one. My personal opinion is that it sounds best with two amps, and with your other pedals and since you use the amps gain channels you would want to put it in the effects loop.... which means you would need to take the other input into the effects return of a different amp for best sound
I also have a Randall NB King 100, it's a Nuno Bettencourt signature model, so i could run in stereo...the problem is the transport of all that stuffs for live shows!!!! And i'm not an expert in connecting things at the right place, although till now everything looks to sound good, the problem is with my controller( One Control Crocodile Tailloop) everything is connected to it, so running some stereo effects and managing it in a loop is a little bit tricky for me.....That said, just know that all my Wampler are for me the best pedals i've ever owned and for sure they will never leave my board!!!
Problem is it really does seem to effect the guitars tons quite a bit. Do you think you could run an EQ pedal in front of it to compensate or would you need two eq pedals to run in front of each amp after splitting the signal with the mimiq?
I currently use a TC Electronic MIMIQ Doubler pedal for my current dual mono rig to split the signal to two amps and give me that bigger sound but I've been wanting to try a wet/dry setup. I'm not sure if this pedal makes sense for wet/dry as it seems to be designed for stereo use. If I run my wet effects through the MIMIQ, will that just sound TOO lose being that the MIMIQ is only effecting my wet affects? (Chorus, tremolo, reverb delay) Any help would be really appreciated!
I would consider buying this but have a question: How low can you go? I notice that some pedals (eg chorus) cut the bottom end of the guitar which for me is a no-go as I am down-tuned. How is this pedal with more bassier tunings and tones?
But why is it panned so much to the left?
Because, despite of being at the same level, our ears trick us by making us think the sound comes from the quickest source (thats the "dry" one). The effect signal is a bit delayed, therefore it looks that it sounds lower (but its not!)
Thats why TC put different level controls on each signal, and I have found out that you have to turn down the "dry" signal till you get a leveled and full stereo image.
I learnt this from my DAW tricks by making a stereo guitar with one track, copying the track, panning left and right, and putting a small delay (20-30ms) on one of them. I found out that you get a leveled stereo image when you turn down the undelayed signal between 3 to 6 dBs
To be honest , i don't like the stereo-effect , but another possibility ....
could be by using 2 different distortions , connected in parallel
Actually, I thought it was odd that the sound was coming from the left side as well and looked at the meters on my Ensemble and saw the left side was much much louder than the right. It does it when he is playing dry as well. Seems it was a setting discrepancy in the Torpedo.
What a weird way to find out my headphones are on backwards.
Sounds like you need to made a version that sounds GREAT straight into the amp or at least into the effects loop...please? I have owned the mini and sold it quickly.
Hi Brian. Did you tried this pedal in mono? Just hear this video in mono, you can hear the flanger effect. Probably this pedal makes Haas Psychoacoustic effect, with phase side effects in mono.
IMO, not used best in mono. The magic is when using it in stereo.
***** I understand, but Haas effect not ideal for stereo emulation, because of phase side effects. The mono control very useful for side effects identification, because our brain makes the same conversion with two stereo channels.
***** I think for good stereo you dont need two amps/cabs, the one stack will be enough. put three mics (shure 57, 87 and 68) closely to the speakers on axis. put the 87 to the left on your console, 57 to the right, 68 on the middle. the side channels - minus 15db, middle minus 12db
It sounds flangey in mono because the stereo field is collapsed, causing the comb filtering of the differently phased signals. Run it in stereo and you hear the effect without the artefacts.
T.C. Mimiq vs Keeley 30ms ???
I just want to add +/- 5-10 cents stereo detune to my tri-chorus/Dimension C,
which would be the better choice?
iron maiden type of music can be good on this if "that guy" use a pitch shifter
if i have a two amp high gain setup and want to run dirt pedals before the amps, does the mimic go before the dirt pedals then split the signals or dirt pedals into mimic then split to the amps? thanks
Now that these have doubled in price what's a good replacement?
What does the internal switches do
thanks. my knee jerk reaction is TC paid you, or are involved in manufacture or distribution of your brand. that's how the world works. that didn't set right this time. i believe this is an exception to that "rule". it's like you were hearing that accusation while you were recording this. you seemed to have a "pissing in the fan" air you were struggling with. glad you didn't overthink it and went on give a video i find very useful. you gained my respect. i will certainly take a closer look at your products. I wonder if TC will ever do a Wampler plug. maybe a toneprint with you name on it?
+hr jr I’m not sure, but my videos are not a “tit for tat” type thing. I love pedals, so I talk about them. The pedal builder community is small, and we are all friends, but the only reason I did this video is purely and simply to inform, educate, and entertain those interested in pedals in any fashion. I don’t subscribe to the idea that I will only talk about MY pedals. That’s just too shallow of an idealogy for me personally. Regardless, I hope you liked the video.
yeah. that comes through in your videos. it takes a LOT of enthusiasm to develop AND utilize the guitar playing, sound and electrical engineering skills you possess. passion is the right word. how you run a business and make these videos in addition to this seems superhuman. that has to require structure and self discipline that does not usually accompany such passion. time certainly must be precious commodity in your life. thanks for sharing some of that with us. Happy holidays to you and yours!
Finally, someone did it in Dobly.
Listening years later I feel like this is like a room feel pedal. Like now you can hear what your amp sounds like in the room without the amp if your using a modeler or DSP profiled amp.
Thanks. Have you tried to input the MimiQ in stereo? How are the dubs of the left and right inputs panned in the output channels on the different dub settings? Thanks in advance. Z.
think about it...panned fully
How does this thing work with pinch harmonics? I don't get to hear them much in the demos I've seen, so I'm curious how well they come out.
+Adam King works great, no problem at all with it. That's more dependent on amount of gain/clipping and technique
any phase issues going on with the low end ? could it be possible that there is a high pass filter on it to avoid it? doubling just the overtones to avoid phase cancelation ?
Never managed to decide wether the Mimiq should go right after the preamp(s) before delay and reverb (running in stereo) or just before hitting the stereo power amp I m using. Seems like mimiq right after the preamp(s) sounds more logical.... couldn’t get a feeling while trying both
Notice when on clean near the end that there is some weird change in stereo placement? Am I the only person who has noticed this? I'm not sure this pedal is good for clean quieter parts if it glitches like that.