Both companies are well known in the diesel industry for making quality filters. Both American made🇺🇸 I wouldn't hesitate to use either filter, but I like the thicker can and the coil spring on the Baldwin. Would be better if they had metal crimped seams instead of glued seams.
Can't go wrong with either one. Working in the field for many years, I noticed that Baldwin seems to be the standard with rental companies. (oil, fuel, air) Farmers love therm too. Good video.
I'd go with Baldwin it just seems cleaner overall... Donaldson had the silicone ADBV but the Baldwin looks good as well. The overall fit and finish leaned me towards the Baldwin on this one. Interesting review 👍
I like the Donaldson a little bit better I like the larger diameter of the filter, seem like the fleet under the microscope was also a little bit finer.
Donaldson appears to be made by M&H Wix-Purolator. The tapping plate is Wix type, the internals/element classic Purolator design. What can be seen is what newer Wix now will look like, thanks to M&H. Wish the efficiency stated at 20um with ISO spec. The Baldwin looks ok, though in general they are not noted for being particularly efficient. In my experience, also they are not a readily available filter brand. Prefer the silicon adbv on Donaldson and because of that give it the edge here. Stamped spring doesn't bother me in the least. But, as I don't own a diesel, wouldn't be looking for either filter. Even if I did doubtful go out my way for either. One thing I do like about both filters, made in the US.👍 Thanks for vid.
Nice job, Pete, both look like really nice filters and if I were running a diesel, usually the rubber anti-drain back valve isn’t that big a deal because they usually hang straight down vertically. I’d use either one
the Donaldson looks like it was made by Purolator as a Purolator bypass and anti-drain-back valve and a slotted center core, I suspect that this was subcontracted to Purolator, and yes I almost forgot the glue everywhere, I choose the Baldwin because it is clean.
They must be great filters if you say so. You're very knowledgeable when it comes to analyzing them.Thanks for another nice comparison! Take Care, Cuz! 👍
G'day Whip.Awesome video as usual.I would not hesitate to use either of these filters however i be more inclined to run the Baldwin because it ticked more boxes.But I would'nt run extended oil change intervals because of the nitrile adbv. Cheers from Downunder!
Another Great Video Pete! Thank you. I've actually just chose to use that Baldwin B7449 in our Silverado after seeing your video on 1/6 with the Napa Gold and Napa Proformer 2100255/100255. Napa finally has the Platinum filter 4100255 back in stock after over a year of being out of stock. I may pick one up and see if it's the same as before....or since they are made by WIX, I'm wondering if they re-tooled the Napa Platinum and if it's going to be nearly same as the O'reilly's Microguard Select 100255 that's now made in Vietnam. I believe WIX/M&H make most of the Napa and Microguard filters at this time.
I'm having this struggle finding a filter for my 2020 Silverado. It has a pf63e with 22 psi bypass, the replacement pf63 only has 12, so im struggling to find a oil filter , considering selling a truck with only 14k miles, over a discontinued oil filter,
If i chose one to use, i would chose the Baldwin. The Donaldson has too much over glue. I think can can be bad on a engine over time. Thank you for the video. Could you do a video on motorcycle filters
Is Donaldson p series I've noticed before like that one that they are not truly a Donaldson. Since it's a white filter, that's usually a giveaway. You should try a blue one sometime. But at least the Baldwin is its own still. Something to be said of Baldwin. My oldest operating piece of equipment on the farm at 68 years old uses Baldwin from the day it was new thanks for sharing. Enjoyed it much
AJ the top of the line Donaldson made filter is full synthetic media filter. Topic Donaldson is not that. Most likely topic filter made by M&H Wix/Purolator.
We use Baldwin on our technically antique Ford 8N`s of which we have 3. 2 with loaders that are hydraulic controlled. We have never had a problem with filtration & during winter our loader tractors have severe short trip operating cycles when cleaning stalls in our barn. Always enjoy & interesting to see the many types of filters you cut open & analyze. We change oil & filters at 100 hour intervals as well as the filters too. We buy the Baldwins by the case along with AC Delco filters for the 1970 C10 & the 1984 & 1989 S10 trucks.
Thanks for doing this comparison, Whip! I've been looking forward to it since you mentioned it in December. To be honest, I'm a little disappointed that the Donaldson doesn't have a crimped end in the media, but I do like it's thickness. I tried to back figure the efficiency based on their numbers and I think it equates to about 95% or a little better at 25u. Obviously, I do like the silicone ADBV, but I was surprised to see it has M&H construction and a thinner can. I was debating between this Donaldson and a PureOne and went with the Donaldson assuming it had superior construction, even though it cost more. Do you feel there is an edge in materials or build quality between the two? The last thing I noticed is that the louvers seem to be mirror opposites on each of the metal cores. Interesting. Now, I know I'm just asking your opinion, but do you believe the Donaldson is suitable for a annual oil change interval with about 3,000 miles? I'm glad to see it has extra pleating, and I think with the silicone ADBV, it's probably fine. I'm also curious if you ever seen any major issues with filters with this kind of construction that you've cut open? Thanks again for the awesome content!
You're Welcome, John. This Donaldson should have no problems doing 3K miles, it certainly resembles the Purolator One. I'll have to do a comparison someday. Thanks!
An interesting comparison of two similarly priced filters. Based on the media rating and the coil spring (over the stamped leaf retainer spring), I would take the Baldwin. If they spent the extra $ and put in a silicone anti-drain back valve, it would definitely be the Baldwin.
I think they're both in the same league with minor differences. I believe you're right they both look like cellulose. I bought a case of Baldwin's about 8 years ago and am down to my last 2. I probably wouldn't hunt down either of those specifically because of the conventional media, but I wouldn't 'not' use them either. They're both good quality. I used both brands on my diesels quite a few years ago for lube and fuel filters. Baldwin hasn't seemed to adopt much new 'tech' in their filters though.
watched you harbor freight torque wrench video...good way to crack your rims...your impact tightened them over the 100 you set the wrench at...when you went back they all clicked at 100 lbs easy, without moving....how do you know how much over your impact wrench tightened them man? they could of been pushing 200 pounds for all you know ! should of LIGHTLY tightened them with that impact, then come back with the calibrated hf torque wrench and snugged them to 100 pf lbs.... you kinda did that very back wards...just saying.... might save somebody a cracked rim if they know the right way to do it.....
I didn't tighten them that much with the corded tool as I stopped shortly after the lug nut tightened up. But I can see how someone who doesn't know what they are doing might hold the tool on there for an extended time and over-tighten so I took the video down.
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Both companies are well known in the diesel industry for making quality filters. Both American made🇺🇸 I wouldn't hesitate to use either filter, but I like the thicker can and the coil spring on the Baldwin. Would be better if they had metal crimped seams instead of glued seams.
Baldwin has filters from China as well.
Can't go wrong with either one. Working in the field for many years, I noticed that Baldwin seems to be the standard with rental companies. (oil, fuel, air) Farmers love therm too. Good video.
Thank You👍
2 good filters.. I have used Baldwin/Hastings for year with out a problem.
Baldwin would be my choice. I ran Baldwin filters back in the 70s and 80s.
I'd go with Baldwin it just seems cleaner overall...
Donaldson had the silicone ADBV but the Baldwin looks good as well. The overall fit and finish leaned me towards the Baldwin on this one.
Interesting review 👍
Thanks, drum!
I like the Donaldson a little bit better I like the larger diameter of the filter, seem like the fleet under the microscope was also a little bit finer.
Donaldson appears to be made by M&H Wix-Purolator. The tapping plate is Wix type, the internals/element classic Purolator design. What can be seen is what newer Wix now will look like, thanks to M&H. Wish the efficiency stated at 20um with ISO spec. The Baldwin looks ok, though in general they are not noted for being particularly efficient. In my experience, also they are not a readily available filter brand. Prefer the silicon adbv on Donaldson and because of that give it the edge here. Stamped spring doesn't bother me in the least. But, as I don't own a diesel, wouldn't be looking for either filter. Even if I did doubtful go out my way for either. One thing I do like about both filters, made in the US.👍 Thanks for vid.
You're Welcome, faxmen09!
They both decent filters if you change your oil on normal intervals, wouldn't use them for those extended oil changes
Nice job, Pete, both look like really nice filters and if I were running a diesel, usually the rubber anti-drain back valve isn’t that big a deal because they usually hang straight down vertically. I’d use either one
Thanks, Jim!
Working for GRAINGER - sold Baldwin ( industrial ) Fram ( automotive ) Givin my druthers tho - would use Kralinator if they were still around
I'm using Donaldson because I got a good deal on them, but I'd be confident using either one.
the Donaldson looks like it was made by Purolator as a Purolator bypass and anti-drain-back valve and a slotted center core, I suspect that this was subcontracted to Purolator, and yes I almost forgot the glue everywhere, I choose the Baldwin because it is clean.
Hi, bud
Yep, it looks a lot like a Purolator One.
They must be great filters if you say so. You're very knowledgeable when it comes to analyzing them.Thanks for another nice comparison! Take Care, Cuz! 👍
Thanks, Ella
Have a Great weekend, Cuz!😊
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks! 👍😊
Both seem to be good filters! Very good comparison! Have an awesome weekend Pete! Merri :)
Thanks, Merri!
Have a great weekend also!😊
Thanks, Pete
Both are serviceable American made filters.
You're Welcome, Jonathan.
G'day Whip.Awesome video as usual.I would not hesitate to use either of these filters however i be more inclined to run the Baldwin because it ticked more boxes.But I would'nt run extended oil change intervals because of the nitrile adbv.
Cheers from Downunder!
Thank You, Luke! Cheers!😊
Another Great Video Pete! Thank you. I've actually just chose to use that Baldwin B7449 in our Silverado after seeing your video on 1/6 with the Napa Gold and Napa Proformer 2100255/100255. Napa finally has the Platinum filter 4100255 back in stock after over a year of being out of stock. I may pick one up and see if it's the same as before....or since they are made by WIX, I'm wondering if they re-tooled the Napa Platinum and if it's going to be nearly same as the O'reilly's Microguard Select 100255 that's now made in Vietnam. I believe WIX/M&H make most of the Napa and Microguard filters at this time.
You're Welcome, Paul!
I'm having this struggle finding a filter for my 2020 Silverado. It has a pf63e with 22 psi bypass, the replacement pf63 only has 12, so im struggling to find a oil filter , considering selling a truck with only 14k miles, over a discontinued oil filter,
If i chose one to use, i would chose the Baldwin. The Donaldson has too much over glue. I think can can be bad on a engine over time. Thank you for the video. Could you do a video on motorcycle filters
Thanks for sharing
Is Donaldson p series I've noticed before like that one that they are not truly a Donaldson. Since it's a white filter, that's usually a giveaway. You should try a blue one sometime. But at least the Baldwin is its own still. Something to be said of Baldwin. My oldest operating piece of equipment on the farm at 68 years old uses Baldwin from the day it was new thanks for sharing. Enjoyed it much
AJ the top of the line Donaldson made filter is full synthetic media filter. Topic Donaldson is not that. Most likely topic filter made by M&H Wix/Purolator.
You're Welcome, AJ!
We use Baldwin on our technically antique Ford 8N`s of which we have 3. 2 with loaders that are hydraulic controlled. We have never had a problem with filtration & during winter our loader tractors have severe short trip operating cycles when cleaning stalls in our barn. Always enjoy & interesting to see the many types of filters you cut open & analyze. We change oil & filters at 100 hour intervals as well as the filters too. We buy the Baldwins by the case along with AC Delco filters for the 1970 C10 & the 1984 & 1989 S10 trucks.
Good show. Well done.
Michael Herrell
Thanks, Michael.
Thanks for doing this comparison, Whip! I've been looking forward to it since you mentioned it in December. To be honest, I'm a little disappointed that the Donaldson doesn't have a crimped end in the media, but I do like it's thickness. I tried to back figure the efficiency based on their numbers and I think it equates to about 95% or a little better at 25u.
Obviously, I do like the silicone ADBV, but I was surprised to see it has M&H construction and a thinner can. I was debating between this Donaldson and a PureOne and went with the Donaldson assuming it had superior construction, even though it cost more. Do you feel there is an edge in materials or build quality between the two? The last thing I noticed is that the louvers seem to be mirror opposites on each of the metal cores. Interesting.
Now, I know I'm just asking your opinion, but do you believe the Donaldson is suitable for a annual oil change interval with about 3,000 miles? I'm glad to see it has extra pleating, and I think with the silicone ADBV, it's probably fine. I'm also curious if you ever seen any major issues with filters with this kind of construction that you've cut open?
Thanks again for the awesome content!
You're Welcome, John.
This Donaldson should have no problems doing 3K miles, it certainly resembles the Purolator One. I'll have to do a comparison someday. Thanks!
An interesting comparison of two similarly priced filters. Based on the media rating and the coil spring (over the stamped leaf retainer spring), I would take the Baldwin. If they spent the extra $ and put in a silicone anti-drain back valve, it would definitely be the Baldwin.
Great job Pete!
Thanks, Dwayne!
I’m torn, not sure which to use on my powerstroke or should I go with the new motorcraft 2124 that replaces the 2051S….decisions are hard
On Friday, April 7th, I have a Purolator Boss PBL14459 vs. the Motorcraft 2124S video.
I think they're both in the same league with minor differences. I believe you're right they both look like cellulose. I bought a case of Baldwin's about 8 years ago and am down to my last 2. I probably wouldn't hunt down either of those specifically because of the conventional media, but I wouldn't 'not' use them either. They're both good quality. I used both brands on my diesels quite a few years ago for lube and fuel filters. Baldwin hasn't seemed to adopt much new 'tech' in their filters though.
Hi Vince,
Thanks for Sharing!
Hey Whipcity, how do I send you a couple filters to test?
email sent
Likely made in the same factory
The last 4 filters I got that were Donaldson were made in Saudi Arabia. These were ford backhoe filters. Strange.
Wow, I don't think I ever seen one made in Saudi Arabia
Fuel and air. SA is trying to rise above oil only as income. @@WhipCityWrencher
Saudi Arabia has filter factories ?!?!?!??
@@linctexpilot8337 Pretty bizarre indeed! Those billionaire turban heads are diversifying for the day the oil runs out.
Very nice video good morning 223
Good morning👍
well, not much difference. Donaldson is leader in filtration for heavy duty. I would take Donaldson
The Donaldson looks like a Purolator….
watched you harbor freight torque wrench video...good way to crack your rims...your impact tightened them over the 100 you set the wrench at...when you went back they all clicked at 100 lbs easy, without moving....how do you know how much over your impact wrench tightened them man? they could of been pushing 200 pounds for all you know ! should of LIGHTLY tightened them with that impact, then come back with the calibrated hf torque wrench and snugged them to 100 pf lbs.... you kinda did that very back wards...just saying.... might save somebody a cracked rim if they know the right way to do it.....
I didn't tighten them that much with the corded tool as I stopped shortly after the lug nut tightened up. But I can see how someone who doesn't know what they are doing might hold the tool on there for an extended time and over-tighten so I took the video down.