I knew a farmer with a John Deere he thought it could pull a pan . That tractor was spinning all four and bending in the middle . He kicked up all that dirt for 2 shovels full of dirt . I told him about the Case tractors and he had one the next week . He thought his farm tractor could pull a pan . If you want work to get done use a Case .
If you’ve driven these machines you’d know that the Case has the better gearbox, on the road (uk) the John Deere is a bit of a handful especially when pulling out junctions because it was soo slow to change gear. I had a 620 quad for 3 years then they got me a 9620RX for 1 year then changed to 9RX640 and that for a year, I missed my quad, John Deere cab was a lot nicer place to be compared to the quad I had but the red pulled so much better and was better on fuel. I can’t talk for the new Case machines or the new mega jd that’s coming out as I haven’t driven them only but from my 8000hrs operating Case 620 and 3000hrs on RX I’d take the Case any day.
From what I’ve heard the transmission is the main thing holding the Deere quads back. How do the 9620rx and 9rx640 compare in that regard? They improved the transmission on the 8rs quite a bit with that refresh, so I’m curious about the bigger ones. (though the 8rs had a plenty good one to begin with lol)
@@Beyonder8335 the gearbox on the 640RX was still a bit slow compared to a quadtrac but a bit more refined than the 620RX, pulling in field with gearbox in custom and RPM droop set to 20% it was great, very reactive as long as you set the target speed not too high so that it wasn’t getting greedy with the gears. The 8RX is an awesome machine, the E23 box was great and pulled so well for its size, we got a demo of one with the new hybrid electric gearbox and that thing was mega, it was so reactive and seem to have way more pull, On the road, the hybrid gearbox made the tractor feel way more controllable and safe (which is a good feeling)
@@rcmast3rtract0rking the EVT is a very interesting transmission, I’ll be curious if it takes off in the future. We have a new 8r310 with the e23 and really like that one as well. Good to hear they’re at least moving the right direction with the quads, even if they’re still behind
It has been like this for a long time. In the 1990's JD 6000 series tractors struggled to produce their rated horsepower. The case Maxxums and Magnums at the same time easily produced more than the rated power at the PTO
Here’s what you do. You wait until they break down. Then you call the Johnny Deere boys to fix the green one. And the red one you can fix yourself. Guess who wins now?
Yeah unfortunately I'm forced to be the maintenance on everything that moves on my farm john deere can screw itself with its anti right to repair bulls*** there actions literally should me that I'm better off using the same horse drawn farm implements my Amish friends use than dealing with JD's s*it which is why i am currently working on a complete set of prewar horse drawn implements
???? 😂 Der 620 Case hat Maximalleistung 692Ps und der 9rx 640 hat 691Ps. Mit den Ps hat das nix zutun.😂 Die neuen sind 9rx 710/770/830 und der 830 hat die 900Ps. Die 54 Liker sind genauso hol 😅
Well. I am no expert. But seeing how burnt the Case Steiger tractor exhaust is ( how white ) I am pretty sure this is not Factory set anymore. It’s a Cummins engine, and personally 98% of those Cummins are "deleted". So. Now, take a rag, put it in front of your mouth, pinch your nose and go for a run. I know I know. I must be devil for defending Johndeere. The funny thing is that I am not defending them. A deleted engine will always win over a tier4final. It’s simply the way it is. Flow is restricted ( to supposedly be more clean… while burning more fuel… )
@@historicbeef it's in europe. all EU countryies have thhe same rules. every american made tractors that comes in europe will have a DEF and adblue installed
Si los tractores se hicieran para correr carreras elegiría case, pero cómo se hacen para tirar, trabajar y durar elijo JD. Cada 1 rotura del JD son 3 o 4 de Case, siendo bueno!
Cummins engines are known to be thirsty. Once I've had a Hitachi ZW310 in test in my former company to eventually replace a Cat 966M (non XE). Well, while the previous 966M XE used to work at 6 gals/HR feeding clay in the plant's hoppers, the 966M used to require 7,5 gals with an average operator, while being 20% slower, my best result being 6,7 gals/hr but with the same 20% speed gap. The Hitachi came with the plant under winter maintenance so we used it for plowing snow. 9 gals/hr...
I don't know the exact specs for the case machines are always very fuel efficient in my experience produce a lot of power for the amount of fuel they use. Not only that but I think you'll find a lot of features about the John Deere are not up to par with the Case. You'd be really hard pressed to justify the deer especially with the price tag
As someone who has drove both… it’s not close. Deere has a nicer cab but pulling power is case all day. John Deere transmission suck as well, they shift incredibly slow so this guy was probably downshifting but it’s about as fast as wagon train shifting. 😂
Out of curiosity have you had a chance to run the new 9rx640s vs the 9620rxs? Curious if they cleaned up the transmission any on them. They smoothed it out quite a bit on the 8rs, though the 8rs had a decent transmission to start with lol.
The Deere just needs a case transmission and it could hang. Everyone complains about how sluggish it is shifting. The case is super smooth and can skip gears quickly.
Case provides both cvt and power shift transmission for quadtrac but jd only provides power shift for this tractor. And looks like this quadtrac had cvt. So very easy win. Despite only having very slight more power ( actually less rated power lol ).
@@lp60tor70not quite. The 9rx 640 has a peak horsepower of 691 while the 620 tops out at 682.6 which is only 9 horsepower less not 20 however what is more impressive is the fact that the 620 has a 12.9l iveco engine while the RX has a 15L Cummins. More displacement should mean better performance when the horsepower is so even
I think it’s less of a horsepower thing, and more of a transmission thing. The 9r/rx transmissions are known to be slow shifters, which holds them back in situations like this.
Awful lot of black smoke come from the Case when leaving the start line. I'm guessing that machine is turned up and/or the emissions have left the chatroom.
Case realy know their stuf.That quad is no jole.King of 4 track tractors easy.But to give olive branch, i do not see point of this "test" except only for fun..And for those people that will say "Yeah but wait till JD 830 comes out"..What do you think will happend?They will blow engine at 2000 hours like older 9rx?I realy do not expect much from new 9rx, but we will see.No hate at all at JD but they failed farmers..HARD
@@timzona6829 If it's green it won't make it through the beans. JD ain't been good since the mid-2000s, before that even. They peaked from 1970-90. CNH and AGCO demolish JD. The only reason JD is in business still is because of brand loyalty. John Deere barely makes anything themselves. They had to buy Waterloo Boy because nobody wanted the tractors that John Deere made themselves. JD was junk. For the most part, it always has been, and now, it will be for forever, or until they finally get back to making quality products. (also JD just makes a slightly different tractor than Yanmar does, for the compacts I mean. It only has a few extra amenities, still has a Yanmar engine. They just license/buy everything because they can't make it themselves because then nobody will want it.)
@@DuisteinAffe-qo4ie well I had a new holland tractor it was a fucking joke. I have all Deere’s but I own an agco challenger MT 755 C engine great rest of the tractor a pile of shit
@@DuisteinAffe-qo4ie I been farming a long long time owned an run them all. Going Deere hunting use a magnum? The case ih magnum is more like a blown out magnum condom. Owned one of those red it’s dead leave it in the shed. I had an allis charmers Massey Ferguson ford fendt. There is a reason Deere is number 1 in sales in us and 2 worldwide. They are largest farm equip manufacturer in world. You prolly drive a ford or a dodge as well.
They almost died out there for a minute due to poor management and lack of dealerships with adequate service but make no mistake about it International has always been the best pulling tractor not to say Deere isn't an awesome specimen.
What they said ohhh - “Nothing runs like a Deere” 😂 More like “Nothing Runs Like a Case IH “ 💪 Get the fuck out Jd fanboy’s there is only a real Quadtrac here 👑
Hey Case might be faster but can it tow more, that’s the real test, it’s not all about speed for tractors it’s about what they can pull. Nothing Runs Like A Deere!
Poor real world performance vs paper claims and poor reliability are part of the reason JD is facing a major lawsuit right now. I even own one, luckily a few years older with several implements, but nothing in this newer style and price range.
The JD was last seen running for the border... The Mexican border.
Love to see Case IH rule like that. Proudly made in Fargo ND!
There was a time Deere was quality. Those times are long past.
JD too busy funding pride parades rather than their products 😂
This is MUCH better than tractor pull or semi drag racing. No huge cloud of black smoke to obstruct your view lol.
Found the karen
Nothing runs like a Case IH ❤ 😂
Except a never ending repair bill on a brand new million dollar John Deere "anything." The brand is finished, has been for years.
Or nothing runs over a Deere like a Case!
@@rayhilton1759😂🤡
John Deere got a 10 minute headstart and still lost😂😂😂😂
I knew a farmer with a John Deere he thought it could pull a pan . That tractor was spinning all four and bending in the middle . He kicked up all that dirt for 2 shovels full of dirt . I told him about the Case tractors and he had one the next week . He thought his farm tractor could pull a pan . If you want work to get done use a Case .
The John deer people been pretty quiet with this one
Bro the 9RX weighs 67,000 pounds versus the 620 weighing 45 to 60 thousand pounds and the 9RX has 940 hp
@TravisLange-l3e we run green but case has the quad track system down. We're switching our pull tractors to red.
They became 🦌😂😂
@@amateurgamer149what became deere? Case is case. My guy. Nothing red and green match. You mean blue and red are similar lol. 😅
CASE 👏👏👏👏👏 WIN !!!! ELO 👊👍
My farmer neighbor, who WAS a big JD fan, shit canned all his JD equipment and now runs Case IH, Fendt, and New Holland!
Just not a surprise.
If you’ve driven these machines you’d know that the Case has the better gearbox, on the road (uk) the John Deere is a bit of a handful especially when pulling out junctions because it was soo slow to change gear.
I had a 620 quad for 3 years then they got me a 9620RX for 1 year then changed to 9RX640 and that for a year, I missed my quad, John Deere cab was a lot nicer place to be compared to the quad I had but the red pulled so much better and was better on fuel.
I can’t talk for the new Case machines or the new mega jd that’s coming out as I haven’t driven them only but from my 8000hrs operating Case 620 and 3000hrs on RX I’d take the Case any day.
From what I’ve heard the transmission is the main thing holding the Deere quads back. How do the 9620rx and 9rx640 compare in that regard? They improved the transmission on the 8rs quite a bit with that refresh, so I’m curious about the bigger ones. (though the 8rs had a plenty good one to begin with lol)
@@Beyonder8335 the gearbox on the 640RX was still a bit slow compared to a quadtrac but a bit more refined than the 620RX, pulling in field with gearbox in custom and RPM droop set to 20% it was great, very reactive as long as you set the target speed not too high so that it wasn’t getting greedy with the gears.
The 8RX is an awesome machine, the E23 box was great and pulled so well for its size, we got a demo of one with the new hybrid electric gearbox and that thing was mega, it was so reactive and seem to have way more pull, On the road, the hybrid gearbox made the tractor feel way more controllable and safe (which is a good feeling)
@@rcmast3rtract0rking the EVT is a very interesting transmission, I’ll be curious if it takes off in the future. We have a new 8r310 with the e23 and really like that one as well. Good to hear they’re at least moving the right direction with the quads, even if they’re still behind
It has been like this for a long time. In the 1990's JD 6000 series tractors struggled to produce their rated horsepower. The case Maxxums and Magnums at the same time easily produced more than the rated power at the PTO
Nothing runs like a Deere and nothing smells like a John (Jon)
If it ain’t red, leave it in the shed.
Here’s what you do. You wait until they break down. Then you call the Johnny Deere boys to fix the green one. And the red one you can fix yourself. Guess who wins now?
Yeah right 😂
JD will cost you 10x more to fix
Yeah unfortunately I'm forced to be the maintenance on everything that moves on my farm john deere can screw itself with its anti right to repair bulls*** there actions literally should me that I'm better off using the same horse drawn farm implements my Amish friends use than dealing with JD's s*it which is why i am currently working on a complete set of prewar horse drawn implements
I think your argument is unclear or shots it’s self in the foot ….either way the case won by a mile in that pull
@@jons6125 it’s sarcasm. John Deere locks farmers out of fixing their own equipment.
AAA..Darum baut John Deere einen RX mit über 900 PS dass er nur Ansatzweise mit dem 620 QT von Case mithalten kann.
???? 😂 Der 620 Case hat Maximalleistung 692Ps und der 9rx 640 hat 691Ps. Mit den Ps hat das nix zutun.😂
Die neuen sind 9rx 710/770/830 und der 830 hat die 900Ps.
Die 54 Liker sind genauso hol 😅
GO BIG RED
Case IH drive knew the name of the game! Theres givin some slack, and there's takin the mick! 😂
Where are those guys , says nothing runs like a John Deere 😂😂
Well. I am no expert. But seeing how burnt the Case Steiger tractor exhaust is ( how white ) I am pretty sure this is not Factory set anymore. It’s a Cummins engine, and personally 98% of those Cummins are "deleted". So. Now, take a rag, put it in front of your mouth, pinch your nose and go for a run.
I know I know. I must be devil for defending Johndeere. The funny thing is that I am not defending them. A deleted engine will always win over a tier4final. It’s simply the way it is. Flow is restricted ( to supposedly be more clean… while burning more fuel… )
Lol yeah like nothing chases like a case!!!
@@historicbeef You can take any subsequent quadtrack, and the result will always be the same.
@@historicbeef it's in europe. all EU countryies have thhe same rules. every american made tractors that comes in europe will have a DEF and adblue installed
@@historicbeefYour defense is something that may or may not be real? Okay someone's coping hard.
Red ones go fasta!
the Case plant is down the street from me
I'm a John Deere guy but I know a case 620quad will out pull the JD 9650
Power
JD never had a prayer tell quad trac patient ran out . Quad Track rules
Bellissimi e potentissimi trattori 😮😊❤🎉
Where are the deere fanboys ?
RED POWER!!🇺🇸
If you go hunting deer, use a Magnum?
If u see john ask for his case
Aye
If you ever want a business model to ruin your brand look no further than the green machines.
Oh Deere.
Essa é a "minha" Formula-1 😅❤
Triple and Quadruple axles Trailers need it for the big ones
Cummins power💪
😂😂😂😂Case is IVECO (FPT engine)
I think you can make the case for the red one😂
Nothing cost like a Deere
Si los tractores se hicieran para correr carreras elegiría case, pero cómo se hacen para tirar, trabajar y durar elijo JD. Cada 1 rotura del JD son 3 o 4 de Case, siendo bueno!
OG 💪
I would like to know if the case burns more fuel and if so how much more? I cant just go by pulling power if i want to buy one.
Cummins engines are known to be thirsty. Once I've had a Hitachi ZW310 in test in my former company to eventually replace a Cat 966M (non XE).
Well, while the previous 966M XE used to work at 6 gals/HR feeding clay in the plant's hoppers, the 966M used to require 7,5 gals with an average operator, while being 20% slower, my best result being 6,7 gals/hr but with the same 20% speed gap. The Hitachi came with the plant under winter maintenance so we used it for plowing snow. 9 gals/hr...
I don't know the exact specs for the case machines are always very fuel efficient in my experience produce a lot of power for the amount of fuel they use. Not only that but I think you'll find a lot of features about the John Deere are not up to par with the Case. You'd be really hard pressed to justify the deer especially with the price tag
New hollend❤❤❤
New Hollands put more power to the ground even though identical engine wise to the Case because their transmission is a better design.
Case wins💪💪💪💪💪
Incase anyone was wondering the case was hauling 30 tons of grapple sauce😂
JD's getting their ass well and truly slapped.
CASE IH, Dai non si bulllizzano così gli avversari 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Case 👍🇳🇴
Case the best
Music RUINED the video. Just want to hear the damn tractors. If I wanted to listen to a music video, I would have clicked on a music video. So stupid.
case all the way
Tuned Case
Case is pushing 800hp
@@noxas5814Its that John Deere shit not tuned Case 😂 JD💩
It’s not only tuned. It’s fully deleted.
@@andreauberti9294put a rag in front of your mouth and pinch your nose. Go for a run. That’s a tier4final engine…
@@historicbeef Yes the Case fully deleted the JD.
As someone who has drove both… it’s not close. Deere has a nicer cab but pulling power is case all day. John Deere transmission suck as well, they shift incredibly slow so this guy was probably downshifting but it’s about as fast as wagon train shifting. 😂
Out of curiosity have you had a chance to run the new 9rx640s vs the 9620rxs? Curious if they cleaned up the transmission any on them. They smoothed it out quite a bit on the 8rs, though the 8rs had a decent transmission to start with lol.
The Deere just needs a case transmission and it could hang. Everyone complains about how sluggish it is shifting. The case is super smooth and can skip gears quickly.
Case provides both cvt and power shift transmission for quadtrac but jd only provides power shift for this tractor.
And looks like this quadtrac had cvt. So very easy win. Despite only having very slight more power ( actually less rated power lol ).
Deere always needs something to keep up
Man stelle sich vor, dass man einen 645 Quadtrac genommen hätte ;).
Nothing Runs Like a Deere and smells like a john!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iveco engine Power
Which is iveco engine case or John deere
Case
FPT engine..The green with Liebherr-Jhon Deere eng...
I never seen such a gap in performance. What is the hp difference?
The case has 20 less than the JD 😂
@lp60tor70 that's not good 🫣
@@lp60tor70not quite. The 9rx 640 has a peak horsepower of 691 while the 620 tops out at 682.6 which is only 9 horsepower less not 20 however what is more impressive is the fact that the 620 has a 12.9l iveco engine while the RX has a 15L Cummins. More displacement should mean better performance when the horsepower is so even
I think it’s less of a horsepower thing, and more of a transmission thing. The 9r/rx transmissions are known to be slow shifters, which holds them back in situations like this.
@@clearskiesranch1362I agree with most everything you said here but I’m pretty sure Deere dropped the Cummins in favor of their own 13.5L
I’m gonna sell my jd
JD is going woke and supporting drag shows so it’s not a bad idea
Well they both were going at top speed the case just has a higher road gear
Something goes wrong with all this... looks like the deere is not pushed to it's maximum power...
Cele mai proaste tractoare agricole John Deere 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Betting the case is remapped 😂
If it ain’t red it stays in the shed where it belongs
it belongs in the junkyard, not the shed.
Nothing runs like deer said for reliability, sustainability and constant power under harsh conditions.
How much less does the CASE cost ?
Nice they edit the video when case passes the green lump of shit with the larger engine, and case gave them a 10 second head start
Awful lot of black smoke come from the Case when leaving the start line. I'm guessing that machine is turned up and/or the emissions have left the chatroom.
That's not even the new Case...
Deleted Case…
It's also not the newest Deere. Deere is at 840 engine hp now compared to Case's 715
@@historicbeef The Case deleted the JD.
RED POWER!!!!!!
Case is tuned
Yes, tuned with Iveco engine 😎
Case realy know their stuf.That quad is no jole.King of 4 track tractors easy.But to give olive branch, i do not see point of this "test" except only for fun..And for those people that will say "Yeah but wait till JD 830 comes out"..What do you think will happend?They will blow engine at 2000 hours like older 9rx?I realy do not expect much from new 9rx, but we will see.No hate at all at JD but they failed farmers..HARD
That's because real tractors only come in red)
If it ain't red leave it in the shed!
If it’s red its bled and probably dead. Coming from a former ih/case ih guy.
@@timzona6829 If it's green it won't make it through the beans. JD ain't been good since the mid-2000s, before that even. They peaked from 1970-90. CNH and AGCO demolish JD. The only reason JD is in business still is because of brand loyalty. John Deere barely makes anything themselves. They had to buy Waterloo Boy because nobody wanted the tractors that John Deere made themselves. JD was junk. For the most part, it always has been, and now, it will be for forever, or until they finally get back to making quality products. (also JD just makes a slightly different tractor than Yanmar does, for the compacts I mean. It only has a few extra amenities, still has a Yanmar engine. They just license/buy everything because they can't make it themselves because then nobody will want it.)
@@DuisteinAffe-qo4ie well I had a new holland tractor it was a fucking joke. I have all Deere’s but I own an agco challenger MT 755 C engine great rest of the tractor a pile of shit
@@DuisteinAffe-qo4ie I been farming a long long time owned an run them all. Going Deere hunting use a magnum? The case ih magnum is more like a blown out magnum condom. Owned one of those red it’s dead leave it in the shed. I had an allis charmers Massey Ferguson ford fendt. There is a reason Deere is number 1 in sales in us and 2 worldwide. They are largest farm equip manufacturer in world. You prolly drive a ford or a dodge as well.
Да подстава на джон дире особо и не довил педаль
How is Deere so slow.
It depends in the speed not the horsepower here
They almost died out there for a minute due to poor management and lack of dealerships with adequate service but make no mistake about it International has always been the best pulling tractor not to say Deere isn't an awesome specimen.
I'll say it for you; "Deere isn't an awesome specimen"
What they said ohhh - “Nothing runs like a Deere” 😂 More like “Nothing Runs Like a Case IH “ 💪 Get the fuck out Jd fanboy’s there is only a real Quadtrac here 👑
Deleted engine will always win
Bros mad you know there's a difference between tuned and deleted vs tier 4 final right
Say all the things you want , that 640 lost, the only thing is that Case got better trasmission and it delibera more power to the ground
@@nicholassalcedo5954 Plus no smoke no fun
Hey Case might be faster but can it tow more, that’s the real test, it’s not all about speed for tractors it’s about what they can pull.
Nothing Runs Like A Deere!
They are towing the same load so presumably the case can handle a bigger load and still come out on top.
There's plenty to choose from , why john deere then
my Subaru, could do that
I don't think your subaru has over 600hp... and I doubt it can pull 30 tons...
Was that suppose to be a head to head race? Didn’t look fair for John Deere that has more HP.
Ether red or its dead
Keyik hayranları nerde?😅
Tutti che comprano cervi sono i migliori in tutt le soluzioni 😂😂😂
Ah si ho visto bene in questa prova che fine ha fatto il cervo sulla griglia 😂
Nessuno batte gli articolati Case
John Deere does beat case with the new high horsepower 9RX John Deere Tractors
@@HLL-LordVader yeah I wanna see that green dumpster how it lose 😂
@@andreauberti9294 you say as case is still an American owned tractor company along with new holland
Il quadtrak è lui.
Танки в работе.
WhereWhere is John Deere?
John Deere is too busy being woke,
Why is the John Deere loaded and case only 2/3.
lol it isn't
Americano perdeu 🎉
IVT looses too much power vs the power shift
Poor real world performance vs paper claims and poor reliability are part of the reason JD is facing a major lawsuit right now. I even own one, luckily a few years older with several implements, but nothing in this newer style and price range.
Да ладно, ну нихуя себе!
Annoying soundtrack spoiled another good video.....when will they learn???????
Something fishy about this test.
Democrat Juice ruins everything.
Ouch
Last time I checked I couldn't care less what the 1/4 mile time is for my tractor.
case is deleted
Never!
Uffde Luffde
Ti