another reason for mihawk not being seen as much of a threat compared to shanks can also be because mihawk doesn't have a big crew/fleet as powerful as shanks's and he also doesn't own any large territory either while all the yonko do.
Now he has fleet and territory but his bounty still low, if he stronger than shanks, roger and prime wb his bounty should be 5 billion minimum coz he the only character after Dragon who hunts marines
He isn't the captain, WG knows buggy and his crew are mid and that Croc and Mihawk are the only threat. So no he doesn't really have a fleet that's comparable to that of the other yonkos and he doesn't have anybody worth anything on that crew.@@zaynali5588
@@zaynali5588 it’s not even his OWN fleet though, and his bounty was already 3.9 billion before joining buggy and croc, so idk what argument you’re tryna make rn. Also, when did I say that he was stronger than those guys??? I’m just saying that Mihawk IS in the top 10 top 5 whether people like it or not. Obviously he’s not the strongest, but (if we use our brains) we know that he’s at LEAST equal to shanks in terms of strength.
I honestly believe that in order to create a black blade, you need top tier haki. WB's Murakumogiri allowed him to channel his full power, Ace was Roger's companion and he named his kid after his blade. We know from Mihawk that any weapon can be turned black and Yoru is the #1 weapon. It's > Ace and Murakumogiri, therefore, it's wielder needs to be on par with it. The fact that people don't fear Mihawk might be due to his goals in life rather than his strength. The WG knows, for a fact, that Mihawk has 0 interest in causing any trouble since he wants to be left alone, while he waits for someone stronger than Shanks to challenge him. You can't call Shanks a swordsman and say Mihawk is < Shanks. And if you say that his bounty should be higher, on par with someone like Shanks or Blackbeard i'll say that is all due to the fact that he's not recognised as a Yonko. Notice that Buggy is the one who's Mihawk's "leader" but even with the title of Yonko he's not on Mihawk lvl bounty 💀
You just went with the black blade argument again. In a series that has told us that haki only truly grows in the extreme conditions of battle, you casually scale mihawk to shanks when mihawk has a weaker pool of enemies, has been laying back, and has never faced a yonko because shanks wasnt even a yonko yet and only had a 1B berry bounty. To casually assume shanks is even at the same strength as when they used to fight is questionable at best.
@@olegariocarrillo1416 oh so a Shanks at 27 yrs of age doesn't know advanced conquerors because...logic, right. There's no reason for them to not know what they know now, back then. Also yes, it is true Mihawk would have a smaller pool but Shanks only fended off Kaido and that's his only feat, and even that might've not been a strength one. Also, you've defeated you're whole argument when saying that haki only grows in extrene situations. Isn't a black blade suposed to be formed after countless battles? Yes the pool is smaller but how do you know Mihawk was only challenging swordsmen? After all he hadn't even fought Vista but already had a black blade. Does that mean he doesn't scale above because they haven't fought? 💀 To finish off, i'll say this, it would be obvious that a character at their lvl would be able to gage their strenth and their opponents. Therefore, after the comments of Mihawk calling Shanks a one armed has-been, plus, other statements in databooks and vivre cards that say Mihawk is waiting on someone who's stronger than Shanks...yeah...there's not a lot of room for Shanks > Mihawk
Not so sure about Momo I mean he’s just an 8 year old in a 28 year old body with barely any experience with his DF. However Big Mom was literally fighting both Kidd and Law and Kidd was taking hits from both her and Hawkins/Killer attacks still landing solid hits against her
Yeah tf is he a fraud hes just an 8 yr old and was never depicted as a top tier. He was just shown to be a coward and decided he wants to be brave. Thats all
Also agree about shanks. People really have selective reading skills. Oda been told us for 26 years straight that your bloodline does not define you. We know good celestial dragons and nobles, we know evil D clan members. Plus even our good characters all have their moral gray areas. Of course we need some questions answered and he’s still a mystery but the evil thing is weak headcanon😂
Fraud watch for Mihawk is wild to me I think there’s too things to take into fact. 1. When comparing Mihawk to other pirates Is the fact that he didn’t have a crew until grossguild, people like shanks had goons. And even now Mihawk is crossbuilds biggest goon. Back in the day all Mihawk had was a bunch of monkeys and an e girl. 2. Mihawk pre cross guild wasn’t really active or too confrontationa, bro was just kinda vibin and bored for real.
You wrong Rob, Mihawk had a bounty before he was a warlord. All warlords bounties are frozen when they join, so mihawks bounty was 3.5 B pretimeskip. They just never showed his bounty until the warlord system had been abolished. Otherwise, great vid.
@adoniscreed4031 it's a fact that every warlords bounty was frozen once they became a warlord. Mihawks bounty isn't shown until after the warlord system is abolished and is still higher than buggys who is considered cross guilds leader and a yonko.
Lmao no, the 3.5 billion bounty was his upgraded bounty just like how crocodile and buggy got an upgrade literally in the same scene, his pretime skip bounty was never revealed but I don't think it would be above any YC1 bounty
@@abbamalami9171even if for arguments sake his bounty wasn't frozen at 3.5, how much of a boost you really think he got from joining cross guild? It makes no sense that his bounty would get enough a boost from joining to put him over the yonko that he is considered to work for. To think he ran up that type of bounty between the abolishment of the warlords system to him joining cross guild is ridiculous.
@@sum1759 honestly we don't know, but I'm pretty sure it was dissapointing which is why oda never revealed it, crocodile jumped from 80 million to over 1 billion, the pre time skip bounties were pretty low because oda never intended for one piece to reach this point
the list from kaido were people who he thought are top tier fighters even though he defeated oden without going into his hybrid (going all out) shows that not all of them can defeat him but who he thinks are top tier characters
There’s no way Momo is a fraud. Having big shoes to fill and not having filled them yet does not make him a fraud. Being a fraud would mean that either you claim a certain strength, or others have claimed that for you, and then failing to meet that. Momonosuke hasn’t claimed to be at Oden’s level or anything like that.
I agree with what you are saying but that’s not my argument. I’m saying he believed he ran Aramaki out of town but he didn’t. He also failed to recognize that he needs Yamato’s help, so Yamato had to take it upon herself to tell Luffy she can’t join the straw hats rn.
All good till i heard that Kaido disrespect. Thats crazy how mutch slander can be said about a character that have shown waaaaaaay more feats compared to the likes of Shanks or White beard.
Kaido was not saying that all those people can beat him (although I think Roger and Rocks and maybe Shanks prob could). He was just thinking of people that he thought had hands. Also remember that he jumped off Skypeia thinking it might kill him; he doesn't have a good measure of what things can hurt him.
"they don't treat mihawk with respect like shanks" brother what?? when he stepped in in marineford everyone present reacted including whitebeard, warlords and the admirals. only characters that pulled that kind of weight in marineford were whitebeard, mihawk, garp and shanks.
I’m just glad to see the Monkey family has been spared from the fraud allegations. I was mad at Dragon for not saving Kuma earlier or not moving when Ginny got abducted, but I know these are all sacrifices for the sake of the greater cause. It just stings a bit. I do, however, believe that once the revolutionary forces are unleashed on Mariejois, Dragon will be an unstoppable force. He seems extremely determined and driven. I am itching to see him in action 😤
Well I don’t think kaido is a fraud. Because all the people he talked about were already dead. So technically he is the current world’s strongest creature from what we’ve seen. Bro got jumped by like 16 people took out Luffy like 3 times and still have gear 5 trouble after all that
@@SqueakHakidon't forget the fact that he's the only person in the history of the OP world to become a yonko based on his own strength after single handedly challenging the navy, and yonko. Something no one else ever did
But the reasons why everyone is chill with Mihawk and why his bounty is so low is because Mihawk is chill. He didn’t do anything before Crosssguild and he always tried to get away from conflict to chill
World strongest swordsman actually means worlds strongest swordsman and not some world most skilled swordsman if it meant worlds most skilled swordswoman then someone could loose to Mihawk and get the title because of sword skill
What I'm saying is take Prime Garp for instance (a pure haki user) and hand him a sword. Does that automatically make him lose to Mihawk now? No, because Prime Garp still has more impressive haki as far as we know. He would absolutely lose the sword battle, but where he lacks in swordsmanship, he makes up for in haki. As Kaido said, haki transcends all. Mihawk is a better swordsman than Shanks, but Shanks has more powerful haki. That's why I lean more towards Shanks in a battle.
@@ShonenShowdownThen Mihawk isn’t the WSS then. His title is world’s strongest swordsman, not world’s most skilled swordsman. Mihawk is the strongest person who’s a swordsman of this current day and age. If Shanks is stronger than Mihawk, then he’s the WSS, but he’s not.
Diamond jazu struggling with a normal two hand slash that isn't even a named attack already shows you how much strength mihawk is hiding still. Also, rose (i forgot his name) is light work for mihawk tbh. Only reason mihawk would wanna keep fighting with his is because he's actually a really good swordsman, but that's where their comparison would end. And what's to say that mihawk doesn't have good haki??? I still don't understand how people just keep ignoring the FACT that mihawk and shanks literally used to fight each other multiple times for the ''worlds strongest swordsman'' title. I do agree that we should see more feats from him, but at the same time statements alone already tell us how powerful he really is.
@@zaynali5588 jozu was only in like 1-2 panels for this in the manga, so you can't even use that against my argument since there is no proof for either claim in the manga.
Agree about Mihawk vs Shanks but to be fair to Mihawk, one of the most dangerous things about Shanks is the fact that he has a whole crew of top tiers that will slide for him. Seems to be the main thing that’s special about the red hair pirates, they don’t have any weak links in the main officer crew and they’re by far the most well balanced. Those who have given shanks his respect never just say shanks, it’s usually @ the group. Blackbeard said I don’t wanna fight all of you guys. Green bull same words. When the yonko bounties were revealed during wano, Shanks segment was about how stacked and balanced their crew is compared to the other yonko. So that’s a big part of why he’s portrayed as so lethal. Kidd didn’t even see Shanks when he lost his arm, Beckmann did that and it was probably neg diff. Still though shanks haki by itself is ridiculous
Third comment 😂 Do you guys remember how many Gear 5 conquerors haki punches Kaido took and was still standing? It took one the size of an Island to bring Kaido down. Kizaru could never survive that many. One to the head took him out. If he had gone to Wano against big mom and kaido, he would have been cooked
I believe that Mihawk wasn't even trying at the war at Marineford, simply trying to gauge everyone's skills compared to him... Notice he never used a single named attack Also, I think you're underestimating Jozu's durability as his vivre card called him a "diamond man with an unparalleled toughness", with him only being taken down when Aokiji froze him and took his arm, which means thay his durability is insane and is probably near top tier (definitely not Kaido's level). Lets not forget that Mihawk only left Marineford after Shanks (who lost an arm) left meanwhile he was willing to engage with Shanks when he had his arm (Mihawk having engaged in numerous duels with Shanks before that point), meaning that Mihawk IS currently stronger than Shanks since Mihawk no longer considers him as an equal. With that Shanks and Whitebeard example you pulled, there's a major difference to a war and simply another emperor (who was a crewmate of their captain's old friend) coming on to have a talk. They didn't engage in battle with Shanks because they didn't need to
The phrase “always bet on kaido in the 1v1” isn’t disputed by there being 5 (6 if you count luffy) that he considers on the level. If you were told “hey, kaido is fighting one person, who you betting on” you don’t know who it is, it could be Shanks, or it could be Capone Bege. The fact is that out of the 100s of alive fighters in One piece only 1 (2) is a loss for Kaido. I’ll take those odds any day.
kaido beat shanks in a 1v1 tho he know shanks power lvl and think no one can beat him in the world if shanks was strong enough to kills him he would have let him do it like with the scabards, since he didn't that means kaido is stronger than shanks also he want to destroy this boring world, even after "fighting" shanks, he find it boring because he can't taste defeat literally
@@VictorDurand-me5yu i was talking hypothetical worst case scenario for Kaido. I dont count Luffy among those among Kaido’s top 6, nor do i think in a 1v1 luffy would win. I put him in parentheses for the worst case scenario where the odds for Kaido in the 1v1 are worse. And as shown above worst case scenario 2 people in the verse can beat him (not counting blackbeard or dragon). Best case scenario is as you said, even Shanks isnt on Kaido’s level in the 1v1. However my math looks more impressive if you consider the worst case scenario having those high of odds.
Mihawk is the Strongest character currently There are several Statements and he has never even used a named attack and he never used any sort of advanced haki even tho he clearly has it
You didn’t mention the fact that the world government always makes the captains bounty higher even if he’s weaker than his subordinates but for mihawk his bounty is higher even tho buggy is recognized as a yonko this proves 2 things mihawk had tht bounty before hand without a crew but it wasn’t revealed second the WG recognizes his strength as a top tier even with out a crew and now since he’s not the captain that means he does not have command on the cross guild nor does he have claim to the territory but still manages to land a higher bounty than his yonko captain it is not writing inconsistency it’s is oda clearly saying mihawk is him
Stongest Gorosei > Blackbeard > Shanks > Dragon > Sakazuki > Mihawk > Current Garp > Luffy If anyone could take Blackbeard, they would, except the Gorosei who think he’s a check on the other Emperors (for now)
I do not think Kizzy is a fraud. I feel like he didn't really go all out BECAUSE he was so full of himself. If we actually see him going all out I'm sure he'll fold a lot of people 👍
@@onepeak7032how is that head cannon we literally saw he wasn't fully focused on fighting luffy he was trying to deal with vagapunk and personally I think white star gun inst I 1 shot move but more like a stun move cause we saw that he was still conscience and just holding his head plus y wouldn't his head be spinning after an attack like that
I don’t think he was full of himself as much as he just really, very clearly didn’t want to be there. he said as much like 4 chapters in a row. I REALLY don’t wanna do this sentomaru, Bonney, vegapunk, luffy, even said it to Saturn. His heart wasn’t even remotely in it. That being said I don’t think he was holding back THAT much either though. Going all out i still think Luffy can hang with him just fine
Only zorro fans would call mihawks title legitimate just so zorro wouldnt be a fraud. Anyone whos not a zorro/mihawk fan would easily call both of them frauds. I used to belive all zorro fans are mihawk defenders. But I found out a while ago that there are zorro fans who doubt mihawks title. They are basicly saying that zorros final opponent will be the bald gorrosei or figurland garling and mihawk is indeed a fraud.
@@animoments8969 is miwhawk a fruad for not going all out against fodder charchaters?? you calling him a fruad even tho miwhawk has a black blade was a rivel to shanks who is considerd the strongest charchater at the moment with feats and has the world strongest title?.idc if you say shanks is stronger that,s not what im here to argue but both are realative anyways that,s why so he 100% aint a fruad
@@blitzer1603 yeah everyone knows all those things already yet hes still called a fraud. And I didnt say wether hes a fraud or not, just that his 'zorro' arguement is kinda weak
I honestly believe Mihawk is by far the strongest in the world outside of maybe Imu and he just never uses his full strength because he just doesn't care to. We've seen how lazy and bored he always is with swordsmanship and how he prefers to do other things like chill in a gothic island, drink wine, and tend gardens. I think he's reached a strength like Saitama esk in the sense that opposition swordsman bore him completely now. For example how he was belittling Shanks because he lost his arm talkin bout how "he half a man now and can no longer put up a good fight." The fights he could get into are just not really worth it to him. That's why his bounty is the way it is because the Marines know how dangerous this man is, beyond your average yonko level aka above Luffy. but they also know he doesn't really care enough to stir up that much trouble for them.
kaido was talking about dudes that could hurt him, fight him, not necessary win, and all those dudes except shanks fought kaido when he was young on rocks crew, and oden a little after that.
@attoboi9763 so what if he is 8 years old? then he should go play with toys, if he wanna be shogun now than he needs to step up his game coz Yamato is babysitting him instead of going on adventure with the crew, Rob was right about him and most of the community thinks the same way
@zaynali5588 look at the video title and watch the video for a few minutes and you'll get the concept, momo is not a fraud just needs moretraining and time
@zaynali5588 momo didn't get the whole "training" thing between his child age and current age, little bit of a advantage to Oden lmao, momo is the first to tell you all that he isn't ready
I see what you're saying but if that were the case, why would Kaido imply Roger's Haki allowed him to takeover the world? He's literally admitting Roger reached higher levels of haki then he has. Also, Shanks did stop Kaido from going to Marineford and it was confirmed that a skirmish happened.
I think there is a huge misunderstanding around the world strongest swordsman title and here is why, when people claim that mihawk is the strongest swordsman that doesn’t mean he is stronger than shanks cause there are other factors in a fight besides sword skills and most importantly is haki which shank sims to be the best at right now however he isn’t the better swordsman according to the title that mihawk have, just because shanks is stronger and using a sword doesn’t mean he’s a better swordsman just like how big mom isn’t a better swordsman then zoro but would still beat him in a fight and that’s why I do believe that mihawk is the world strongest swordsman.
Side note, another great example is the zoro vs king fight where zoro stated that king isn’t actually using proper sword technics but he was still skilled enough fighting with a sword to close the gap and his superior strength and speed was what gave him the edge for most of the fight but zoro was still a stronger SWORDSMAN.
@@SegKillerGamingILwell shanks is 100% a swordsman then since, he used divine departure. Also shanks appeared on (I think a cover) with the other swordsman so.
@@yourm8596 still doesn't change my point, Shanks = better HAKI Mihawk = better SWORDSKILLS and don't say that haki is a part of swordskills cause it's not it is a tool to enhance them just like fusing devil fruit powers with haki like luffy did with gear 4.
You gotta understand Kizaru’s Situation; kizaru: holding back due to his character, his main mission is not to defeat luffy, holding back even more because any damage caused to the island is a net loss for them (stated), holding back EVEN MORE because of his emontional attachment to vegapunk and sentamaru (he stated this), Kizaru gets punched but still conscious and is speaking luffy: just defeated seraphims and ate lots of meat right before fighting kizaru which is a recovery method for luffy in one piece, was at 100%, luffy punches kizaru BUT BECOMES UNCONSCIOUS B-But he used Gear 5 earlier 🤓 In his battle against Kaido he has demonstrated to be capable of using Gear 5 again simultaneously from eachother so Luffy with a recovery break should by proxy have recharged the energy expended by Gear 5 as we see him do In Wano so he has no actual nerfs Now who would win in an actual fight It’s actually crazy when u realize having weakness in hesitation in one piece can nerf u really badly like Luffy punching away Old Garp and making him bleed same Old Garp who can combat against Aokiji or When Aokiji hesitates and gets perception blitzed by Garp who he’s definitely stronger than to… and Kizaru was experiencing 3 of these nerfs Also Kizaru 1 Shot and Blitzes Gear 4 Who Has Relative Showings To Hybrid State Kaido which is an insane feat when put in face value The fact that the battle was close says enough and people out here saying Luffy 1 Shots haven’t went in depth of the battle even Kizaru’s clones can make G5 Luffy bleed let alone Kizaru himself especially when factoring that he likely has an awakening of his Devil fruit; He also didn’t demonstrate Haki feats he should be a user of Future Sight & Advanced Arnament considering he was stated to be equal to Aokiji & Akainu in MarineFord who have demonstrated both types of Advanced Haki and his Devil fruit abilities alone cannot solidify he’s stronger than them without Haki especially Akainu who has the highest boasting offensive DF he would need relative Haki and it’s further highlighted in One Piece Film Z where his Sensei Zephyr Is a Master over Arnament I don’t see why the person who he trained under wouldn’t be either That’s my take but I have Kizaru relative to Luffy and with depth & context can be argued stronger than Luffy without accounting for the potential chance of an awakening which is a massive amplifier
stronger then luffy is a streach i know kizaru got mentaly nerfed and all but luffy was also playing around and didn,t use coq untill the end of the fight. If both of them went all out luffy would still win. Kaido btw was still cooking g5 until the end
@@blitzer1603 I never said Kizaru would win but rather it’s an extreme diff fight either way without these external factors not to mention of Kizaru has an awakeneing he would transcend the power of G5 if he already this close in power but I agree
@@NatiElias-j9u Luffy was playing with him only got serious in the last attack no admiral is close to Yonko unless we see it happen stop your headcanon luffy low diff that mf
I mean, we know how God valley ends. Garp chooses to team up with Roger to protect not just the celestial dragons but the slaves as well. We know that Garp did not care about the celestial dragons and was willing to just let them die. So clearly, the only reason he will stop chasing Roger and team up with him will be because of the slaves
Einstein once said “The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.” Garp knows about the things the celestial dragons do yet just looks to the side. Its not enough that he doesnt want care about them or want them to order him around. Hes just looking out for himself at that point. And also you said "protect their slaves aswell" From who exacly? Cause I know he wasnt protecting them from being hunted by the celestial dragons. The only person who saved the slaves was Kuma. Garp was just there cause he was excited to fight Roger.
@animoments8969 I am not here defending Garp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. From what we know, Rocks will eventually pose a danger to the slaves. That's the only thing that will make Garp give up on his initial goal of capturing Roger and rather team up with him. I'm just stating what we know. Yes he came there for Roger. But we know for certain that he ends up teaming with Roger in the end. The only thing that can make him do that is if Rocks poses a threat to the slaves
@@Problemsolver434 the same slaves that were being hunted down by the celestial dragons? The same slaves that were labeled rabbits and you get points for killing them them? Those slaves?
@@Problemsolver434 Im not saying youre defending him. It just doesnt make sense how you keep saying garp was going to protect the slaves from rocks, when the celestial dragons are the one from that posed a threat to them not rocks.
i think people often confuse between strongest swordsman in the world with the worlds strongest swordsman. Mihawk's title is the strongest swordsman in the world. The difference between the 2 can be explained in a simple way, for example , if whitebeard, aka the strongest man in the world learns using a sword or starts using it , he will be the worlds strongest swordsman, meaning the strongest guy who picks up and knows how to use a sword. Mihawk is the strongest swordsman in the world , meaning his swordplay and ability with the sword surpasses anyone and everyone, even if whitebeard learns how to use a sword, he wont be the world;s strongest swordsman until he defeats mihawk since his sword skills wont be on par with mihawk's. Now haki comes into play more on an indivisual level , a guy who is the strongest swordsman wont be worthy or simply be useless if his haki or swordplay would not be able to stand hits or even sword hits from guys like whitebeard or shanks using haki. Thus mihawk's haki is better indicated by his bounty value. Those guys will probably be stronger than him but mihawk still stands a punchers chance as long as he still has his sword with him. I belive mihawk's bounty is a good indication of his current powerlevel because of the very recent value as opposed to shanks where shanks' bounty is still pretty old and updated only once from the incidents of Foosha village. If shanks has a bounty or updated bounty or gets increase due to some incident, it will probably touch 4.5 or 4.8 because of how ridiculous his ''wifi'' haki is. His control over the conquerers haki is just too sick. We ofc unlike mihawk compare him with the 5 elders and even dragon because now that we know he is most likely the son of figarling he has the potential to be in that league and we have also seen how strong the gorosei are. The only way mihawk probably is still comparable with them might be because of the eyes which he shares with emu, those 2 fuckers have the same eyes lmao, but regardless his haki seems too low
My guess is that every title in one piece like “strongest swordsman” was created by Big News Morgan since we already know he created the “Pirate King”, who’s to say he didnt make the others
bruda 4 of that 5 kaido tought that can lose to are dead. I feel like those are the people he respected thats why he compared luffy to them and asked how far can he go. Aint no way 1 armed shanks 1v1s kaido.
also makes no sense for shanks to be evil just cuz he’s a celestial dragon, princess vivi was even found out to be a celestial dragon yet she’s one of the most kind hearted characters in the whole show
Kizaru was completing a mission speed run style he wasn't looking to throw hands, clearly. Look at how he did the Supernovas in comparison that was clean up work straight to the point this is a retreival mission for him, he was going for Vegapunk Luffy just kept intervening. And not to mention he didn't even wanna do it to begin with I bet money he purposely got knocked out to have the excuse to not have to end his friends which clearly worked as Saturn wasn't pissed at all and understood. Mihawk gave Zoro PTSD and a permanent scar, not to mention Zoro literally reminds you how horrifying Mihawk is when he tells S-Hawk that's he's not even the Great Value version of the real Mihawk and those Seraphims were strong enough to break Sanji's leg from a kick. Why would Mihawk fight non-swordsman seriously; I guess you forgot him trolling Don Kreig outta boredom? He's clearly waiting for Zoro or some God Knights to fight. He even said in his fight with Zoro: What kind of man goes all out when hunting a rabbit? Clearly, he hasn't found an actual challenge otherwise he'd still be banging blades with Shanks. Shanks is definitely a fraud his power isn't wifi haki it's the Snitch Snitch fruit and white privilege, nobody was scared to run the fade with Shanks it's Garling and the Gorosei they were afraid of. I swear niggas don't read, they just jump on waves and trends. 😂
What you are legimately saying is someone with no haki could get 1 tapped by Mihawk but get the title because they would have the best sword skills and would have a black blade if they had the sword skills but be weak without haki
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is take Prime Garp for instance (a pure haki user) and hand him a sword. Does that automatically make him lose to Mihawk now? No, because Prime Garp still has more impressive haki as far as we know. He would absolutely lose the sword battle, but where he lacks in swordsmanship, he makes up for in haki. As Kaido said, haki transcends all. Mihawk is a better swordsman than Shanks, but Shanks has more powerful haki. That's why I lean more towards Shanks in a battle.
They already said that Mihawk doesn't have that high of a bounty because he doesn't have much of an influence, and second it was stated that mihawk and shanks contended already and that it was a draw or something
Im late but kizaru was under emotional conflict like garp was in marineford. Same with aokiji in beehive island. Kizaru just hurt his own nephew sentomaru on entering egghead. Then he kills vegapunk and hurts bonney and kuma. And we know from kuma story that kizaru was friends with all of them. Isnt this the same situation as garp in marineford? I really dont think he wanted to hurt his own friends and even saturn says "kizaru is not functioning like usual. Something's wrong with him". After getting back to ship after luffy takes him out, kizaru literally says to his subordinates in a sad tone while covering his eyes "just leave me alone man. Im done with this"
2:31 I’m sorry the fact that he’s a Yonko is why Whitebeards crew didn’t get in his way, plus he was there to talk not fight, so why would they attack him
saying mihawk has no haki feat while he has a black blade is crazy something that only one person other then him in the history of one piece world as done
@amvtunes4500 It has never been stated that Mihawk turned his blade black he might have found it or defeated the previous owner or the community theory that he painted it
3:05 White Beard got his title because of all the factors that made him strong his title was very much stated or at least implied to just be outdated Whitebeard even said it himself "I can't be the strongest forever"
The marines don’t give mihawk hight bounty because he is not that troublesome if you don’t attack him first And Mihawk is the only one that have permanent haki on his sword maybe because he activated haki all the time and that maybe why his sword is so powerful
In defense of Mihawk, I do think that he is the strongest swordsman, otherwise Zoro's entire journey has been pointless. His fight against Mihawk at the Baratie would be made pointless, and just narratively it makes no sense to have people like Garling or Ethanbaron be stronger swordsmen than Mihawk.
Oda cannot give Mihawk any feat that would undermine shank at all since luffy current goal is to surpass shanks crew and shanks. Giving Mihawk any feat that outscale shanks will undermine luffy which oda can never and will never do. Just like how Robin bounty was merely 79million even she though she is the sole bearer of certain language in first half and her bounty only revealed after luffy obtained 100million. Kizaru in egghead is not fighting with everything because his morally conflicted like garp. He was really holding back as he was able to talk while luffy was unconscious and he get up before luffy and maybe even helped luffy in recent chapter.
The bias is INSANE, shanks is on fraud watch because he gets tagged by the dumbest things. Apparently scarred by pre-devilfruit black beard and his guard wasnt down. A baby seaking took his arm (I know it's by choice but wb(prime)/kaido/big mom skin cant even be penetrated without advanced conq without them even trying). Plus shanks legit never had an equal fight on screen, shows up in the manga once every 5 years to snitch on blackbeard and didappears again.
Some of the points used on Mihawk legit make his portrayal better not worse. Saying the marines aren't showing him the respect of someone who is presumed above Shanks is just straight wrong. Shank's strength is world known and so is the fact that he has the crew with the highest average bounty in the show. Yet Mihawk has a bounty only 500 million behind him, despite being a subordinate and being in a crew with no real fighting strength, outside of himself and Crocodile. On top of this, saying he doesn't have an ellite bounty is just crazy when he is a subordinate who has a higher bounty than two of the yonko, the admirals and his own captain. Out of everyone, the marines give him the most respect with them even calling him by his title in conversation to Shanks.
You’re missing what I’m saying. Let’s look at Dragon for example. Dragon has the highest bounty in One Piece. Why? He’s a strong character and leader of the Rev Army, which directly opposes the marines. What does Mihawk have in common with Dragon? He’s ALSO a strong character who plays a big role of an organization that directly opposes the marines. He also has HISTORY of hunting marines for fun prior to the creation of the cross guild. The marines have info on both Dragon and Mihawk. I agree that the Cross guild is new so it won’t garner the same level of respect as the Rev Army BUT Mihawk’s epithet is literally the Marine Hunter and now he’s in the Cross Guild. That should result in an insane bounty on paper. That’s why I believe S-Hawk is the reason they downplayed his bounty.
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Rob never disappoints but we already know that
I already know Kid is gonna be on this list😂
He should’ve been fr 😭
he wasn't lol.
Kid's criminaly underrated
Kid ain’t a fraud tho
Editing had me gasping for air, love the progress 🤣
another reason for mihawk not being seen as much of a threat compared to shanks can also be because mihawk doesn't have a big crew/fleet as powerful as shanks's and he also doesn't own any large territory either while all the yonko do.
Now he has fleet and territory but his bounty still low, if he stronger than shanks, roger and prime wb his bounty should be 5 billion minimum coz he the only character after Dragon who hunts marines
He isn't the captain, WG knows buggy and his crew are mid and that Croc and Mihawk are the only threat. So no he doesn't really have a fleet that's comparable to that of the other yonkos and he doesn't have anybody worth anything on that crew.@@zaynali5588
@@zaynali5588 it’s not even his OWN fleet though, and his bounty was already 3.9 billion before joining buggy and croc, so idk what argument you’re tryna make rn. Also, when did I say that he was stronger than those guys??? I’m just saying that Mihawk IS in the top 10 top 5 whether people like it or not. Obviously he’s not the strongest, but (if we use our brains) we know that he’s at LEAST equal to shanks in terms of strength.
I honestly believe that in order to create a black blade, you need top tier haki. WB's Murakumogiri allowed him to channel his full power, Ace was Roger's companion and he named his kid after his blade. We know from Mihawk that any weapon can be turned black and Yoru is the #1 weapon. It's > Ace and Murakumogiri, therefore, it's wielder needs to be on par with it. The fact that people don't fear Mihawk might be due to his goals in life rather than his strength. The WG knows, for a fact, that Mihawk has 0 interest in causing any trouble since he wants to be left alone, while he waits for someone stronger than Shanks to challenge him. You can't call Shanks a swordsman and say Mihawk is < Shanks.
And if you say that his bounty should be higher, on par with someone like Shanks or Blackbeard i'll say that is all due to the fact that he's not recognised as a Yonko. Notice that Buggy is the one who's Mihawk's "leader" but even with the title of Yonko he's not on Mihawk lvl bounty 💀
You just went with the black blade argument again. In a series that has told us that haki only truly grows in the extreme conditions of battle, you casually scale mihawk to shanks when mihawk has a weaker pool of enemies, has been laying back, and has never faced a yonko because shanks wasnt even a yonko yet and only had a 1B berry bounty. To casually assume shanks is even at the same strength as when they used to fight is questionable at best.
@@olegariocarrillo1416 oh so a Shanks at 27 yrs of age doesn't know advanced conquerors because...logic, right. There's no reason for them to not know what they know now, back then. Also yes, it is true Mihawk would have a smaller pool but Shanks only fended off Kaido and that's his only feat, and even that might've not been a strength one. Also, you've defeated you're whole argument when saying that haki only grows in extrene situations. Isn't a black blade suposed to be formed after countless battles? Yes the pool is smaller but how do you know Mihawk was only challenging swordsmen? After all he hadn't even fought Vista but already had a black blade. Does that mean he doesn't scale above because they haven't fought? 💀
To finish off, i'll say this, it would be obvious that a character at their lvl would be able to gage their strenth and their opponents. Therefore, after the comments of Mihawk calling Shanks a one armed has-been, plus, other statements in databooks and vivre cards that say Mihawk is waiting on someone who's stronger than Shanks...yeah...there's not a lot of room for Shanks > Mihawk
Mihawk painted it 😎
Mihawk might have better Buso Haki than any character but anything else is pure speculation.
@@ryangraves8874 observation too and yes speculate is what we do
Not so sure about Momo I mean he’s just an 8 year old in a 28 year old body with barely any experience with his DF. However Big Mom was literally fighting both Kidd and Law and Kidd was taking hits from both her and Hawkins/Killer attacks still landing solid hits against her
Yeah tf is he a fraud hes just an 8 yr old and was never depicted as a top tier. He was just shown to be a coward and decided he wants to be brave. Thats all
Also agree about shanks. People really have selective reading skills. Oda been told us for 26 years straight that your bloodline does not define you. We know good celestial dragons and nobles, we know evil D clan members. Plus even our good characters all have their moral gray areas. Of course we need some questions answered and he’s still a mystery but the evil thing is weak headcanon😂
Fraud watch for Mihawk is wild to me I think there’s too things to take into fact.
1. When comparing Mihawk to other pirates Is the fact that he didn’t have a crew until grossguild, people like shanks had goons. And even now Mihawk is crossbuilds biggest goon. Back in the day all Mihawk had was a bunch of monkeys and an e girl.
2. Mihawk pre cross guild wasn’t really active or too confrontationa, bro was just kinda vibin and bored for real.
Yeah he should be on fraud👍
@@arnodorian4238delusional
Grossguild and crossbuild
The problem with Garp is that Fujitora actually fred slaves and changed the system in 2 years of being an admiral.
You wrong Rob, Mihawk had a bounty before he was a warlord. All warlords bounties are frozen when they join, so mihawks bounty was 3.5 B pretimeskip. They just never showed his bounty until the warlord system had been abolished. Otherwise, great vid.
Nowhere does it say that this bounty is Mihawk's old bounty... that's headcanon as hell! 😂 Its okay to just say you don't know something...
@adoniscreed4031 it's a fact that every warlords bounty was frozen once they became a warlord. Mihawks bounty isn't shown until after the warlord system is abolished and is still higher than buggys who is considered cross guilds leader and a yonko.
Lmao no, the 3.5 billion bounty was his upgraded bounty just like how crocodile and buggy got an upgrade literally in the same scene, his pretime skip bounty was never revealed but I don't think it would be above any YC1 bounty
@@abbamalami9171even if for arguments sake his bounty wasn't frozen at 3.5, how much of a boost you really think he got from joining cross guild? It makes no sense that his bounty would get enough a boost from joining to put him over the yonko that he is considered to work for. To think he ran up that type of bounty between the abolishment of the warlords system to him joining cross guild is ridiculous.
@@sum1759 honestly we don't know, but I'm pretty sure it was dissapointing which is why oda never revealed it, crocodile jumped from 80 million to over 1 billion, the pre time skip bounties were pretty low because oda never intended for one piece to reach this point
the list from kaido were people who he thought are top tier fighters even though he defeated oden without going into his hybrid (going all out) shows that not all of them can defeat him but who he thinks are top tier characters
If that was the case bigmom would be on the list
@Caguji oden vs kaido was not a fair 1 v 1 if it was than kaido would have died bro you reading one piece shippuden
@@animoments8969 no big mom can't fight a serious kaido thats the point
Yo the edits are going crazy 🔥
There’s no way Momo is a fraud. Having big shoes to fill and not having filled them yet does not make him a fraud. Being a fraud would mean that either you claim a certain strength, or others have claimed that for you, and then failing to meet that. Momonosuke hasn’t claimed to be at Oden’s level or anything like that.
I agree with what you are saying but that’s not my argument. I’m saying he believed he ran Aramaki out of town but he didn’t. He also failed to recognize that he needs Yamato’s help, so Yamato had to take it upon herself to tell Luffy she can’t join the straw hats rn.
@@ShonenShowdowntotally fair! Love the content! Keep it up!
All good till i heard that Kaido disrespect. Thats crazy how mutch slander can be said about a character that have shown waaaaaaay more feats compared to the likes of Shanks or White beard.
Kaido was not saying that all those people can beat him (although I think Roger and Rocks and maybe Shanks prob could). He was just thinking of people that he thought had hands. Also remember that he jumped off Skypeia thinking it might kill him; he doesn't have a good measure of what things can hurt him.
"they don't treat mihawk with respect like shanks" brother what?? when he stepped in in marineford everyone present reacted including whitebeard, warlords and the admirals.
only characters that pulled that kind of weight in marineford were whitebeard, mihawk, garp and shanks.
I’m just glad to see the Monkey family has been spared from the fraud allegations.
I was mad at Dragon for not saving Kuma earlier or not moving when Ginny got abducted, but I know these are all sacrifices for the sake of the greater cause. It just stings a bit. I do, however, believe that once the revolutionary forces are unleashed on Mariejois, Dragon will be an unstoppable force. He seems extremely determined and driven. I am itching to see him in action 😤
Well I don’t think kaido is a fraud. Because all the people he talked about were already dead. So technically he is the current world’s strongest creature from what we’ve seen. Bro got jumped by like 16 people took out Luffy like 3 times and still have gear 5 trouble after all that
Do not forget the fact that he was lifting Onigashima at the time he was getting jumped with no breaks
@@SqueakHakidon't forget the fact that he's the only person in the history of the OP world to become a yonko based on his own strength after single handedly challenging the navy, and yonko. Something no one else ever did
Shanks is alive
Dragon and Shanks are alive
@@zuko8023 I get shanks but he never mentioned dragon
But the reasons why everyone is chill with Mihawk and why his bounty is so low is because Mihawk is chill. He didn’t do anything before Crosssguild and he always tried to get away from conflict to chill
World strongest swordsman actually means worlds strongest swordsman and not some world most skilled swordsman if it meant worlds most skilled swordswoman then someone could loose to Mihawk and get the title because of sword skill
What I'm saying is take Prime Garp for instance (a pure haki user) and hand him a sword. Does that automatically make him lose to Mihawk now? No, because Prime Garp still has more impressive haki as far as we know. He would absolutely lose the sword battle, but where he lacks in swordsmanship, he makes up for in haki. As Kaido said, haki transcends all. Mihawk is a better swordsman than Shanks, but Shanks has more powerful haki. That's why I lean more towards Shanks in a battle.
@@ShonenShowdownThen Mihawk isn’t the WSS then. His title is world’s strongest swordsman, not world’s most skilled swordsman. Mihawk is the strongest person who’s a swordsman of this current day and age. If Shanks is stronger than Mihawk, then he’s the WSS, but he’s not.
Diamond jazu struggling with a normal two hand slash that isn't even a named attack already shows you how much strength mihawk is hiding still. Also, rose (i forgot his name) is light work for mihawk tbh. Only reason mihawk would wanna keep fighting with his is because he's actually a really good swordsman, but that's where their comparison would end. And what's to say that mihawk doesn't have good haki??? I still don't understand how people just keep ignoring the FACT that mihawk and shanks literally used to fight each other multiple times for the ''worlds strongest swordsman'' title. I do agree that we should see more feats from him, but at the same time statements alone already tell us how powerful he really is.
He doesn't struggle 🥱 his attack are just Weak
@@arnodorian4238jozu was struggling a lot, and he couldn't even block it he had to redirect it.
@@yourm8596 he doesn't 🥱 show me where he does
@Yuh_zhimmy you are anime only dude go read manga Jozu never struggled it was in anime only
@@zaynali5588 jozu was only in like 1-2 panels for this in the manga, so you can't even use that against my argument since there is no proof for either claim in the manga.
Driphawk THE G.O.A.T
Paint D. Sword
Man blud's gotta stop spending his allowance on colour dye mane😭 ain't fooling nobody lol
World's second strongest swordsman
@@Kyoka_Suigetsu666 yeah first one is the Dwarf who smashed Big Mom we know that.
Paint d sword
Agree about Mihawk vs Shanks but to be fair to Mihawk, one of the most dangerous things about Shanks is the fact that he has a whole crew of top tiers that will slide for him. Seems to be the main thing that’s special about the red hair pirates, they don’t have any weak links in the main officer crew and they’re by far the most well balanced. Those who have given shanks his respect never just say shanks, it’s usually @ the group. Blackbeard said I don’t wanna fight all of you guys. Green bull same words. When the yonko bounties were revealed during wano, Shanks segment was about how stacked and balanced their crew is compared to the other yonko. So that’s a big part of why he’s portrayed as so lethal. Kidd didn’t even see Shanks when he lost his arm, Beckmann did that and it was probably neg diff.
Still though shanks haki by itself is ridiculous
just means mihawk took some black paint to his blade
Third comment 😂
Do you guys remember how many Gear 5 conquerors haki punches Kaido took and was still standing? It took one the size of an Island to bring Kaido down.
Kizaru could never survive that many. One to the head took him out. If he had gone to Wano against big mom and kaido, he would have been cooked
I believe that Mihawk wasn't even trying at the war at Marineford, simply trying to gauge everyone's skills compared to him... Notice he never used a single named attack
Also, I think you're underestimating Jozu's durability as his vivre card called him a "diamond man with an unparalleled toughness", with him only being taken down when Aokiji froze him and took his arm, which means thay his durability is insane and is probably near top tier (definitely not Kaido's level).
Lets not forget that Mihawk only left Marineford after Shanks (who lost an arm) left meanwhile he was willing to engage with Shanks when he had his arm (Mihawk having engaged in numerous duels with Shanks before that point), meaning that Mihawk IS currently stronger than Shanks since Mihawk no longer considers him as an equal.
With that Shanks and Whitebeard example you pulled, there's a major difference to a war and simply another emperor (who was a crewmate of their captain's old friend) coming on to have a talk. They didn't engage in battle with Shanks because they didn't need to
The phrase “always bet on kaido in the 1v1” isn’t disputed by there being 5 (6 if you count luffy) that he considers on the level. If you were told “hey, kaido is fighting one person, who you betting on” you don’t know who it is, it could be Shanks, or it could be Capone Bege. The fact is that out of the 100s of alive fighters in One piece only 1 (2) is a loss for Kaido. I’ll take those odds any day.
I definitely see what you’re saying with that interpretation. Good point
@@ShonenShowdown love your content, you were one of the influences to start my one piece journey.
kaido beat shanks in a 1v1 tho
he know shanks power lvl and think no one can beat him in the world
if shanks was strong enough to kills him he would have let him do it like with the scabards, since he didn't that means kaido is stronger than shanks
also he want to destroy this boring world, even after "fighting" shanks, he find it boring because he can't taste defeat literally
@@VictorDurand-me5yu i was talking hypothetical worst case scenario for Kaido. I dont count Luffy among those among Kaido’s top 6, nor do i think in a 1v1 luffy would win. I put him in parentheses for the worst case scenario where the odds for Kaido in the 1v1 are worse. And as shown above worst case scenario 2 people in the verse can beat him (not counting blackbeard or dragon). Best case scenario is as you said, even Shanks isnt on Kaido’s level in the 1v1. However my math looks more impressive if you consider the worst case scenario having those high of odds.
Mihawk is the Strongest character currently
There are several Statements and he has never even used a named attack and he never used any sort of advanced haki even tho he clearly has it
neither did Akainu and most of the fandom says he has coc coating. Did he not use it against WB or how disingenuous are we gonna be???
you all never give up...
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Lol Mihawk tard spotted 🤣 strongest character my ass.
He should be on fraud
You didn’t mention the fact that the world government always makes the captains bounty higher even if he’s weaker than his subordinates but for mihawk his bounty is higher even tho buggy is recognized as a yonko this proves 2 things mihawk had tht bounty before hand without a crew but it wasn’t revealed second the WG recognizes his strength as a top tier even with out a crew and now since he’s not the captain that means he does not have command on the cross guild nor does he have claim to the territory but still manages to land a higher bounty than his yonko captain it is not writing inconsistency it’s is oda clearly saying mihawk is him
To get a permanent black blade you have to have strong enough armorment haki and put it in your sword
who in the series would ever beat white beard in a hands only fight ? i think that’s why they call him the worlds strongest man
I think Garp can do it
@@lord_of_lords10 prime wb vs prime garp would be good but garp would get overpowered i feel, i just can’t see it (garp standing over big ass wb😭)
Kaido can
@@arnodorian4238 Than why Kaido never tried to take down WB? he is a fraud
@@zaynali5588 why didn't whitebeard take down Kaido?
He's scared
He got the opportunity to avenge oden death but never did
Stongest Gorosei > Blackbeard > Shanks > Dragon > Sakazuki > Mihawk > Current Garp > Luffy
If anyone could take Blackbeard, they would, except the Gorosei who think he’s a check on the other Emperors (for now)
I do not think Kizzy is a fraud. I feel like he didn't really go all out BECAUSE he was so full of himself. If we actually see him going all out I'm sure he'll fold a lot of people 👍
I think that's just head cannon and that's not what actually happened. So he is indeed a fraud.
@@onepeak7032 He hasnt even shown his fruit awakening or how powerful his haki is.
@@onepeak7032how is that head cannon we literally saw he wasn't fully focused on fighting luffy he was trying to deal with vagapunk and personally I think white star gun inst I 1 shot move but more like a stun move cause we saw that he was still conscience and just holding his head plus y wouldn't his head be spinning after an attack like that
I don’t think he was full of himself as much as he just really, very clearly didn’t want to be there. he said as much like 4 chapters in a row. I REALLY don’t wanna do this sentomaru, Bonney, vegapunk, luffy, even said it to Saturn. His heart wasn’t even remotely in it.
That being said I don’t think he was holding back THAT much either though. Going all out i still think Luffy can hang with him just fine
They have to give S-Hawk a devil fruit AND Lunarian type abilities to try and replace Mihawk.
Admiral slander is going wild though. Can't wait for the apology video.
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They are destined to lose😂
The brodie with another banger of a video! 🔥
Great vid keep this series yo it was hella entertaining.also mihawk>roger.I’m not joking idea boutta pack y’all up I’m the future💀
If your saying Mihawk is a fraud you basically saying that Zoro is a fraud.
Only zorro fans would call mihawks title legitimate just so zorro wouldnt be a fraud. Anyone whos not a zorro/mihawk fan would easily call both of them frauds.
I used to belive all zorro fans are mihawk defenders. But I found out a while ago that there are zorro fans who doubt mihawks title. They are basicly saying that zorros final opponent will be the bald gorrosei or figurland garling and mihawk is indeed a fraud.
@@animoments8969 is miwhawk a fruad for not going all out against fodder charchaters?? you calling him a fruad even tho miwhawk has a black blade was a rivel to shanks who is considerd the strongest charchater at the moment with feats and has the world strongest title?.idc if you say shanks is stronger that,s not what im here to argue but both are realative anyways that,s why so he 100% aint a fruad
@@blitzer1603 yeah everyone knows all those things already yet hes still called a fraud.
And I didnt say wether hes a fraud or not, just that his 'zorro' arguement is kinda weak
Zoro has proven himself many many times definitely not a fraud
@@Yenex-2001 Zoro is not a fraud but Mihawk is his goal. And he can defeat Mihawk yet. So by that Logic Mihawk ain't no fraud.
I honestly believe Mihawk is by far the strongest in the world outside of maybe Imu and he just never uses his full strength because he just doesn't care to. We've seen how lazy and bored he always is with swordsmanship and how he prefers to do other things like chill in a gothic island, drink wine, and tend gardens. I think he's reached a strength like Saitama esk in the sense that opposition swordsman bore him completely now. For example how he was belittling Shanks because he lost his arm talkin bout how "he half a man now and can no longer put up a good fight." The fights he could get into are just not really worth it to him. That's why his bounty is the way it is because the Marines know how dangerous this man is, beyond your average yonko level aka above Luffy. but they also know he doesn't really care enough to stir up that much trouble for them.
Rob was just coping with the haki man thing ngl , you make great points
Lmao 🤡
Zoro fanboy
Love the new editing btw keep up the good work rob ❤
kaido was talking about dudes that could hurt him, fight him, not necessary win, and all those dudes except shanks fought kaido when he was young on rocks crew, and oden a little after that.
Who believed momonosuke was any more than was shown? He's a kid in an adults body with no training, what were people saying he was?
Rob was capping here. I dont know what the hell he was smoking.
@attoboi9763 so what if he is 8 years old? then he should go play with toys, if he wanna be shogun now than he needs to step up his game coz Yamato is babysitting him instead of going on adventure with the crew, Rob was right about him and most of the community thinks the same way
@zaynali5588 look at the video title and watch the video for a few minutes and you'll get the concept, momo is not a fraud just needs moretraining and time
@@attoboi9763 mom is fraud coz he oden son, oden was a monster at his age
@zaynali5588 momo didn't get the whole "training" thing between his child age and current age, little bit of a advantage to Oden lmao, momo is the first to tell you all that he isn't ready
Big Mom slander was hilarious
no the 5 ppl are just the men who can FIGHT him
kaido know shanks power lvl and still think no one can beat him in the world
I see what you're saying but if that were the case, why would Kaido imply Roger's Haki allowed him to takeover the world? He's literally admitting Roger reached higher levels of haki then he has. Also, Shanks did stop Kaido from going to Marineford and it was confirmed that a skirmish happened.
Greenbull isnt a fraud, he is smart he wont mess with 2 yonkos at once, i think he has a lot of potencial
@BestStark21 he would be lucky to survive against just 1 Yonko
I think there is a huge misunderstanding around the world strongest swordsman title and here is why, when people claim that mihawk is the strongest swordsman that doesn’t mean he is stronger than shanks cause there are other factors in a fight besides sword skills and most importantly is haki which shank sims to be the best at right now however he isn’t the better swordsman according to the title that mihawk have, just because shanks is stronger and using a sword doesn’t mean he’s a better swordsman just like how big mom isn’t a better swordsman then zoro but would still beat him in a fight and that’s why I do believe that mihawk is the world strongest swordsman.
Side note, another great example is the zoro vs king fight where zoro stated that king isn’t actually using proper sword technics but he was still skilled enough fighting with a sword to close the gap and his superior strength and speed was what gave him the edge for most of the fight but zoro was still a stronger SWORDSMAN.
Well u must be clueless
@@SegKillerGamingILwell shanks is 100% a swordsman then since, he used divine departure. Also shanks appeared on (I think a cover) with the other swordsman so.
@@yourm8596 still doesn't change my point, Shanks = better HAKI Mihawk = better SWORDSKILLS and don't say that haki is a part of swordskills cause it's not it is a tool to enhance them just like fusing devil fruit powers with haki like luffy did with gear 4.
Feel like a fourth tier after clear could be added, the “Stand on Business” tier. The opposite of frauds
Nah that thumbnail with the Black Paint had me howling 🤣🤣🤣
this vid was great (the editing definitely was). would like to see more of this series
yo this editing was 🔥. Keep up the good work king
You gotta understand Kizaru’s Situation;
kizaru: holding back due to his character, his main mission is not to defeat luffy, holding back even more because any damage caused to the island is a net loss for them (stated), holding back EVEN MORE because of his emontional attachment to vegapunk and sentamaru (he stated this), Kizaru gets punched but still conscious and is speaking
luffy: just defeated seraphims and ate lots of meat right before fighting kizaru which is a recovery method for luffy in one piece, was at 100%, luffy punches kizaru BUT BECOMES UNCONSCIOUS
B-But he used Gear 5 earlier 🤓 In his battle against Kaido he has demonstrated to be capable of using Gear 5 again simultaneously from eachother so Luffy with a recovery break should by proxy have recharged the energy expended by Gear 5 as we see him do In Wano so he has no actual nerfs
Now who would win in an actual fight
It’s actually crazy when u realize having weakness in hesitation in one piece can nerf u really badly like Luffy punching away Old Garp and making him bleed same Old Garp who can combat against Aokiji or When Aokiji hesitates and gets perception blitzed by Garp who he’s definitely stronger than to… and Kizaru was experiencing 3 of these nerfs
Also Kizaru 1 Shot and Blitzes Gear 4 Who Has Relative Showings To Hybrid State Kaido which is an insane feat when put in face value
The fact that the battle was close says enough and people out here saying Luffy 1 Shots haven’t went in depth of the battle even Kizaru’s clones can make G5 Luffy bleed let alone Kizaru himself especially when factoring that he likely has an awakening of his Devil fruit; He also didn’t demonstrate Haki feats he should be a user of Future Sight & Advanced Arnament considering he was stated to be equal to Aokiji & Akainu in MarineFord who have demonstrated both types of Advanced Haki and his Devil fruit abilities alone cannot solidify he’s stronger than them without Haki especially Akainu who has the highest boasting offensive DF he would need relative Haki and it’s further highlighted in One Piece Film Z where his Sensei Zephyr Is a Master over Arnament I don’t see why the person who he trained under wouldn’t be either
That’s my take but I have Kizaru relative to Luffy and with depth & context can be argued stronger than Luffy without accounting for the potential chance of an awakening which is a massive amplifier
stronger then luffy is a streach i know kizaru got mentaly nerfed and all but luffy was also playing around and didn,t use coq untill the end of the fight. If both of them went all out luffy would still win. Kaido btw was still cooking g5 until the end
@@blitzer1603 I never said Kizaru would win but rather it’s an extreme diff fight either way without these external factors not to mention of Kizaru has an awakeneing he would transcend the power of G5 if he already this close in power but I agree
@@NatiElias-j9u Luffy was playing with him only got serious in the last attack no admiral is close to Yonko unless we see it happen stop your headcanon luffy low diff that mf
I mean, we know how God valley ends. Garp chooses to team up with Roger to protect not just the celestial dragons but the slaves as well. We know that Garp did not care about the celestial dragons and was willing to just let them die. So clearly, the only reason he will stop chasing Roger and team up with him will be because of the slaves
Einstein once said “The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.”
Garp knows about the things the celestial dragons do yet just looks to the side. Its not enough that he doesnt want care about them or want them to order him around. Hes just looking out for himself at that point.
And also you said "protect their slaves aswell" From who exacly? Cause I know he wasnt protecting them from being hunted by the celestial dragons. The only person who saved the slaves was Kuma.
Garp was just there cause he was excited to fight Roger.
@animoments8969 I am not here defending Garp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
From what we know, Rocks will eventually pose a danger to the slaves. That's the only thing that will make Garp give up on his initial goal of capturing Roger and rather team up with him.
I'm just stating what we know.
Yes he came there for Roger. But we know for certain that he ends up teaming with Roger in the end. The only thing that can make him do that is if Rocks poses a threat to the slaves
@@Problemsolver434 the same slaves that were being hunted down by the celestial dragons? The same slaves that were labeled rabbits and you get points for killing them them? Those slaves?
@animoments8969 Yes those. Again, I am not here to defend Garp. Why are you getting so argumentative 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Problemsolver434 Im not saying youre defending him. It just doesnt make sense how you keep saying garp was going to protect the slaves from rocks, when the celestial dragons are the one from that posed a threat to them not rocks.
The video/ concept is 🔥!!!
mihawk: I'm not interested your half the man you use to be
shanks: 💀
i think people often confuse between strongest swordsman in the world with the worlds strongest swordsman. Mihawk's title is the strongest swordsman in the world. The difference between the 2 can be explained in a simple way, for example , if whitebeard, aka the strongest man in the world learns using a sword or starts using it , he will be the worlds strongest swordsman, meaning the strongest guy who picks up and knows how to use a sword. Mihawk is the strongest swordsman in the world , meaning his swordplay and ability with the sword surpasses anyone and everyone, even if whitebeard learns how to use a sword, he wont be the world;s strongest swordsman until he defeats mihawk since his sword skills wont be on par with mihawk's. Now haki comes into play more on an indivisual level , a guy who is the strongest swordsman wont be worthy or simply be useless if his haki or swordplay would not be able to stand hits or even sword hits from guys like whitebeard or shanks using haki. Thus mihawk's haki is better indicated by his bounty value. Those guys will probably be stronger than him but mihawk still stands a punchers chance as long as he still has his sword with him. I belive mihawk's bounty is a good indication of his current powerlevel because of the very recent value as opposed to shanks where shanks' bounty is still pretty old and updated only once from the incidents of Foosha village. If shanks has a bounty or updated bounty or gets increase due to some incident, it will probably touch 4.5 or 4.8 because of how ridiculous his ''wifi'' haki is. His control over the conquerers haki is just too sick. We ofc unlike mihawk compare him with the 5 elders and even dragon because now that we know he is most likely the son of figarling he has the potential to be in that league and we have also seen how strong the gorosei are. The only way mihawk probably is still comparable with them might be because of the eyes which he shares with emu, those 2 fuckers have the same eyes lmao, but regardless his haki seems too low
Damn u really just wrote an entire novel of nonsense that nobody ever finna read
I think whitebeard got his title after Roger was excuted.
And mihawk got his title after shanks lost his dominant hand.
it took 7 minutes for him to say "I dont know the difference between STRONGEST swordsman and SKILLED swordsman"
Nice editing 🎉
And Greenbul wasn't sent to Wano. He made his own decision to attack Wano.
The thumbnail is crazy 😂😂
My guess is that every title in one piece like “strongest swordsman” was created by Big News Morgan since we already know he created the “Pirate King”, who’s to say he didnt make the others
The music for this vid is just 😙🤌
bruda 4 of that 5 kaido tought that can lose to are dead. I feel like those are the people he respected thats why he compared luffy to them and asked how far can he go. Aint no way 1 armed shanks 1v1s kaido.
What if Mihawk off-screens captures an God Knight . That would be crazy
also makes no sense for shanks to be evil just cuz he’s a celestial dragon, princess vivi was even found out to be a celestial dragon yet she’s one of the most kind hearted characters in the whole show
Back to peak form I see.
Great video.
Kizaru was completing a mission speed run style he wasn't looking to throw hands, clearly. Look at how he did the Supernovas in comparison that was clean up work straight to the point this is a retreival mission for him, he was going for Vegapunk Luffy just kept intervening. And not to mention he didn't even wanna do it to begin with I bet money he purposely got knocked out to have the excuse to not have to end his friends which clearly worked as Saturn wasn't pissed at all and understood.
Mihawk gave Zoro PTSD and a permanent scar, not to mention Zoro literally reminds you how horrifying Mihawk is when he tells S-Hawk that's he's not even the Great Value version of the real Mihawk and those Seraphims were strong enough to break Sanji's leg from a kick. Why would Mihawk fight non-swordsman seriously; I guess you forgot him trolling Don Kreig outta boredom? He's clearly waiting for Zoro or some God Knights to fight. He even said in his fight with Zoro: What kind of man goes all out when hunting a rabbit?
Clearly, he hasn't found an actual challenge otherwise he'd still be banging blades with Shanks.
Shanks is definitely a fraud his power isn't wifi haki it's the Snitch Snitch fruit and white privilege, nobody was scared to run the fade with Shanks it's Garling and the Gorosei they were afraid of.
I swear niggas don't read, they just jump on waves and trends. 😂
@Dreadpoolz3977 unrelated to this topic how old are you? wanna know the average age of Fraudhawk fans
@@zaynali5588 your just making yourself seem like a clown
What you are legimately saying is someone with no haki could get 1 tapped by Mihawk but get the title because they would have the best sword skills and would have a black blade if they had the sword skills but be weak without haki
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is take Prime Garp for instance (a pure haki user) and hand him a sword. Does that automatically make him lose to Mihawk now? No, because Prime Garp still has more impressive haki as far as we know. He would absolutely lose the sword battle, but where he lacks in swordsmanship, he makes up for in haki. As Kaido said, haki transcends all. Mihawk is a better swordsman than Shanks, but Shanks has more powerful haki. That's why I lean more towards Shanks in a battle.
Where is Kidd? Man is the og Fraud. "You can hurt Kaido with blunt damage?" 😐
Mihawk is elite with that paint brush and bucket of black paint 🤣🤣
And shanks gets rewarded with cheese everytime he snitches to the gorosei.
Like the new editing Rob
They already said that Mihawk doesn't have that high of a bounty because he doesn't have much of an influence, and second it was stated that mihawk and shanks contended already and that it was a draw or something
I don't think kido said they could defeat him cause he mentioned oden in his top 5 I think he mentioned the ppl who where capable of fighting him
You must do another MC tierlist but base the video on power please and make it a very long video😆👍🔥💪
Im late but kizaru was under emotional conflict like garp was in marineford. Same with aokiji in beehive island.
Kizaru just hurt his own nephew sentomaru on entering egghead. Then he kills vegapunk and hurts bonney and kuma. And we know from kuma story that kizaru was friends with all of them. Isnt this the same situation as garp in marineford?
I really dont think he wanted to hurt his own friends and even saturn says "kizaru is not functioning like usual. Something's wrong with him".
After getting back to ship after luffy takes him out, kizaru literally says to his subordinates in a sad tone while covering his eyes "just leave me alone man. Im done with this"
editing goes hard🚒🔥🔥
2:31 I’m sorry the fact that he’s a Yonko is why Whitebeards crew didn’t get in his way, plus he was there to talk not fight, so why would they attack him
I belive kizaru has not gone all out yet and was not serious at egghead
Anybody who says Admirals are stronger than Yonkos need help with their lives and mental health.
saying mihawk has no haki feat
while he has a black blade is crazy
something that only one person other then him in the history of one piece world as done
@amvtunes4500 It has never been stated that Mihawk turned his blade black he might have found it or defeated the previous owner or the community theory that he painted it
3:05 White Beard got his title because of all the factors that made him strong his title was very much stated or at least implied to just be outdated Whitebeard even said it himself "I can't be the strongest forever"
The marines don’t give mihawk hight bounty because he is not that troublesome if you don’t attack him first
And Mihawk is the only one that have permanent haki on his sword maybe because he activated haki all the time and that maybe why his sword is so powerful
Just remember mihawk has to upscale from everyting zoro is doing since Mihawk is Zoros goal
Momo is only 8 years old, so there’s that
Rob was clearly smoking here.
The thing is that Oda does not like drawing fights so because of that many of the characters in one piece can't be frauds
I like the new editing style
We witness the true power of roger after oda introduced the concept of haki , it's same for mihawk, we didn't seen his haki feats
Garps morality is 1 on 1 not the group. He realized the marines will stop him if he tries to do too much but he can do anything he wants 1 on 1
Make it a séries PLEASE! This is hilarious !
Love the new editing
In defense of Mihawk, I do think that he is the strongest swordsman, otherwise Zoro's entire journey has been pointless. His fight against Mihawk at the Baratie would be made pointless, and just narratively it makes no sense to have people like Garling or Ethanbaron be stronger swordsmen than Mihawk.
We also have never seen Garling using haki, yet people say that Mihawk has to show Garling level feats to hang with him?
Oda cannot give Mihawk any feat that would undermine shank at all since luffy current goal is to surpass shanks crew and shanks. Giving Mihawk any feat that outscale shanks will undermine luffy which oda can never and will never do. Just like how Robin bounty was merely 79million even she though she is the sole bearer of certain language in first half and her bounty only revealed after luffy obtained 100million.
Kizaru in egghead is not fighting with everything because his morally conflicted like garp. He was really holding back as he was able to talk while luffy was unconscious and he get up before luffy and maybe even helped luffy in recent chapter.
Luffy was tired because of the strain from gear 5
kizaru knew he could escape wano thats why he wanted to come
Wasn't Roger afraid of Big Mom and had to sneak on her island to steal a poneglyph instead of confronting her 😂
Did you get a new editor?
The bias is INSANE, shanks is on fraud watch because he gets tagged by the dumbest things. Apparently scarred by pre-devilfruit black beard and his guard wasnt down. A baby seaking took his arm (I know it's by choice but wb(prime)/kaido/big mom skin cant even be penetrated without advanced conq without them even trying). Plus shanks legit never had an equal fight on screen, shows up in the manga once every 5 years to snitch on blackbeard and didappears again.
Some of the points used on Mihawk legit make his portrayal better not worse.
Saying the marines aren't showing him the respect of someone who is presumed above Shanks is just straight wrong. Shank's strength is world known and so is the fact that he has the crew with the highest average bounty in the show. Yet Mihawk has a bounty only 500 million behind him, despite being a subordinate and being in a crew with no real fighting strength, outside of himself and Crocodile. On top of this, saying he doesn't have an ellite bounty is just crazy when he is a subordinate who has a higher bounty than two of the yonko, the admirals and his own captain. Out of everyone, the marines give him the most respect with them even calling him by his title in conversation to Shanks.
You’re missing what I’m saying. Let’s look at Dragon for example. Dragon has the highest bounty in One Piece. Why? He’s a strong character and leader of the Rev Army, which directly opposes the marines. What does Mihawk have in common with Dragon? He’s ALSO a strong character who plays a big role of an organization that directly opposes the marines. He also has HISTORY of hunting marines for fun prior to the creation of the cross guild. The marines have info on both Dragon and Mihawk. I agree that the Cross guild is new so it won’t garner the same level of respect as the Rev Army BUT Mihawk’s epithet is literally the Marine Hunter and now he’s in the Cross Guild. That should result in an insane bounty on paper. That’s why I believe S-Hawk is the reason they downplayed his bounty.
Kizaru went down because he didn't want to deal withthe situation anymore since he's involved and cares about bonney
well the shanks and mihawk sit is different one was to talk the other was in the middle of a war