Had to say this after all the chaos I've seen on Twitter recently. I'm cool with people arguing/roasting my takes BUT AT LEAST listen to the full video first. I'm not entertaining any points that have already been covered in the video. Now it's time!! PROVE ME WRONG or RIGHT lol (Also, peep this after you've seen this video: th-cam.com/video/3KbcYfDa-xE/w-d-xo.html)
I don’t think mihawk was using full power when he hit Jozu by accident bcuz he doesn’t seem like the type of guy to go all out from the start He probably could’ve one tapped diamond jozu if he wanted to
@@_user0_ Here's why I brought that point up. People are saying Mihawk didn't use haki in that attack. So are we assuming Mihawk sent an attack to Whitebeard with NO HAKI in it? To me, that actually makes no sense, you feel me?
@@ShonenShowdownEven the “he didn't want to cut Jozu or his diamond” point is delusional. The attack affected other pirates, it cut the ice, and it had to cut a piece of the boat to reach white beard. So you're they're telling us mohawk said to himself. I'm gonna cut the ice I'm gonna cut the other pirates I'm gonna cut the ship? That's stupid and to counter that a part of Jozu’s body was not Diamond so he stopped the attack with his body. When Shanks goes to Whitebeard’s ship all commanders got out of his way cause they knew they didn't stand a chance. The same thing isn't seen with mihawk.
@@Khaled68335 WB does not depend only on his fruit he has Murakumogiri a blade known to be one of the 12 Supreme Grade swords in One Piece, and remember WB clash with Roger he never used his df it was adv conc clash so he has attacks without df
I don't think he's the strongest, but he is one of the strongest 1v1 fighters in the whole series, probably top 5. One of the biggest flexes Oda gives a strong character is every time they don't fuck up someone they can easily end in one shot.
@@JackBlackYonkowell mihawk and shanks are both overrated in strength imo mihawk is stronger the shanks and i would put Mihawk top 10 but not above Roger I think he might be on par but stronger and no Mihawk got his title after Roger’s death wb is a devil fruit user and we really know like nothing about rocks so
Mihawk is top 1 currently in ny opinion for swormen.. but the community is crazy for sayings hes over roger and white beard and rocks in there prime ive never heard anybody say that tbh...
In no way am i saying mihawk is stronger than roger or whitebeard. But the move jozu blocked was just a regular sword slash. It was an attack with no name.
@@Proistorikossso bro threw out his most powerful attack first swing?🤧😭 a test is like almost half his strength if anything. And let’s not act like he made the war stop and pay attention just by doing it and he was far away from WHITEBEARD 💯
Just so we're clear though, projecting a slash isn't Ryuo. It's a swordsman technique that Zoro was using in Enies Lobby. If you want to use haki *on* a projected slash, that would likely require ryou, but projecting a sword slash itself does not require any haki at all
But let me ask you this. Would Mihawk send an attack, that is supposed to gauge Whitebeard’s power, with no haki in it? Based on the context, where Mihawk said he wants to measure the distance between himself and WB, sending an attack with no haki actually makes no sense, you feel me?
@@ShonenShowdown Sometimes things gets lost in translation Read this : What Mihawk says is 推し量るだけだ…近く見えるあの男と我々の本当の距離を…/oshihakaru dake da… chikaku mieru, ano otoko to wareware no hontou no kyori wo… (One thing that’s interesting is that he never actually finishes the phrase- he just trails off a bit and then attacks.) Anyways, oshihakaru means ‘to conjecture/surmise’ and dake means ‘only’ so the first phrase is “It’s only conjecture.” Chikaku means like ‘closely’ and mieru is ‘to be visible’ or ‘to seem.’ I’m not entirely sure how to best translate this into English but probably something along the lines of “looking closely, (it seems…).” And ano otoko to wareware means ‘that man and us.’ (Wareware is a pretty formal way of saying ‘us’, too, which fits with Mihawk’s formal speech patterns.) So then there’s hontou no kyori. Hontou means ‘real/true’ and kyori means ‘distance.’ This bit stands out to me mostly because it’s highlighted with the small dots that Oda often uses to indicate emphasis or importance- generally sorta equivalent to bold or italics in English. So if I translated this, it would be like: “It’s only conjecture… looking closely, the real distance between that man and us…” TLDR: Yeah, Mihawk knows some shit is up.
@@ShonenShowdown I 100% get where you are coming from, and I agree with the premise of the video, I was just disagreeing that a projected slash requires Ryuo. I think that Mihawk is a better swordsman than anyone else, that meaning that he can use a sword the most skillfully. To achieve that level of skill would, by necessity, require some degree of haki mastery, which I think Mihawk has. I would personally place Mihawk at around the same level as Shanks. Shanks is still dangerous in a fight despite the loss of his arm, but Mihawk is no longer interested in fighting him because they can no longer test each other as swordsmen using sword skill. Where Shanks currently lacks in sword skill he makes up in haki, especially conquerors haki, but I think that this now means that he's no longer as skilled of a swordsman as he once was. I feel like Shanks, Big Mom, Whitebeard and Roger were/are not skilled in sword techniques but have incredible mastery of haki techniques. It seems to me when watching those top tier characters attack or fight that they don't have mastery of sword/blade techniques and instead are using their weapons without technical skill but with incredible haki proficiency. I feel like all of those characters would be just as dangerous if you took their swords and instead gave them a kanabo or other blunt object like Kaido uses. That is to say those characters are using their swords more as clubs than as swords. For a lesser character, that would make them less dangerous, but for these top tiers wielding incredible amounts of armament and conquerors haki imbued in their weapons, it just doesn't matter. At their level the lack of technical sword skill doesn't matter when you're wielding sky splitting amounts of haki. It think that mihawk lags very slightly behind those characters in terms of haki prowess or physical strength, but makes up that difference with savant level technical sword skill.
@@ShonenShowdown this would make sense but we have to remember that Mihawk has the best observation hank in the series, this is why Shanks had to cut it off using his own haki during their fights or else he couldn't hit mihawk, so Mihawk may have already knew Jozu was gonna step in the way and he sent the attack without haki instead
@@teeko6688head cannon they fought over 12 years prior to shanks becoming a yonko thinking he had that lvl of haki then isn’t vindicated anywhere in the series. Just fyi
thank you for addressing this issue, it all over X that I'm so confused why people are comparing Mihawk to Roger, White beard and Rocks in strength. It feels surreal, and insane. I also agree your reasoning.
Why is the current, more relevant generation surpassing the old generation so bizarre to think about? It’s not even as if Roger or WB have some crazy haki or power feats lmao. It’s just y’all putting them on some pedestal for no reason except slight portrayal.
@@Sirius2376did you read marineford? Because if you did then you should see the gap and that’s an old sick whitebeard not a prime healthy WB who can use haki
@@jdogjr5320 What did he do exactly lmao? Aokiji was literally about to clap him up and Jozu needed to 3rd party and save Whitebeards ass, Kizaru was literally trolling WB all war, easily blasting holes through him. WB couldn’t even hit him once, not even when he sneaked him. Akainu made him a magma filled donut and blew 1/3 of his face off, both being fatal wounds. Ik you’re gonna start saying WB knocked Akainu down into the deep pit and blah blah blah, but a de-ring from the fight doesn’t equal a loss. And Akainu was NEVER knocked unconscious during the fight either. At the end of the day he only suffered minor injuries and continued to literally solo the WB commanders afterwards. And this is PRE TIMESKIP admirals who were holding back during Mf.
@@Sirius2376 I think the problem comes more from how the old generation is talking and is potrayed to the new generation makes it look there is this insane gap of power like the new generation's top dogs warlords, supernovas admirals and other such characters are the starter level to what the seas were in WB, Roger, Garp and others beginer times and it doesn't help how a lot of them complain about being too old for this while doing feats that make everyone who isn't amongs the strongest in the new generation piss and shit them selves out of fear constitly so it's kind off what the story wants us to belive and what the story has shown us doesn't really fit together well
when you were talking about mihawk's slash in marineford towards whitebeard being stopped by diamond josu you also have to realize mihawk's slash was directed towards whitebeard and the reason why this is matters is because mihawk tried to slash luffy who is weak to swords got blocked by mr 1 but literally in the next pannel of the manga got one shot by mihawk this means that slashes towards someone by mihawk is intended to damage that person not some other guy intercepting it
Nah people who hold the past pirates on a higher level are insane. Roger has not shown anything he a step above the top tier pirates if anything they all relative to eachother. The strongest characters are clearly imu sama and joyboy from the past because they responsible for everyone
I always assumed Mihawks bounty was that low compared to Roger, Whitebeard, and even Shanks was because he had no crew, even with Buggy and Croco they still havent done much as a crew compared to the Red Hair pirates or even the Strawhats.
It was literally explained. He has a crew with Cross Guild because the bounty was introduced after he joined them. And they are much more dangerous than the other yonko crews because they literally and specifically hunt down marines and out bounties in their head which the other teams don't do.
@@luis15317 I'm talking about before Cross Guild, and even if Mihawk was known as a marine hunter before Cross Guild, could you name which marines? I know it definitely isn't admirals or even vice admirals that Mihawk hunted.
@abstractrain1246 he hubt3d Marines that's all there is to know which in itself is more dangerous to the WG than anything else. He literally was known as Marine hunter. And befire cross guild he didn't have any bounty as it was freezed due to his status as warlord (and his bounty before that was probably pretty low similar to what Doflamingo, Kuma etc had or (croc and Boa had 80 million bounty and now they are at almost 2 billion).
@luis15317 People aren't afraid of Mihawk because he's a pirate hunter, they're afraid since he's the strongest swordsman. Pirate hunter is just an occupation, just like Zoro used to be a pirate hunter... but now that he's marine hunting again, who wouldn't be scared?
Rogers feats were established AFTER haki was introduced. Mihawk hasn’t been given the opportunity yet. His child form is pushing back yonko level opponents with unnamed attacks
Hitting Blackbeard is something litterally anyone can do. Every single fight we’ve seen, Blackbeard gets hit HARD first thing. He got slammed by Ace immediately, and then beat his ass. He got hit by white beard and then killed him. That’s just how Blackbeard fights. The only exception is boa, who has a one shot ability, so he’s obviously not letting her hit him.
Law pushed Blackbeard and 3 of his crew members at the same time, so what are we doing here? In fact, Boa pushed BB too. Zoro pushed S Hawk so are you saying Zoro beats BB? ABC logic doesn't work in one piece with these topics
Mihawk top1 is becoming the new ZKK. In what world does it make sense that a Zoro target, not even an MC opponent is be the strongest? A lot of people who think Mihawk is a messiah are the ones who think he's gonna be Zoro's final fight.. which he WONT be. Zoro will become WSS before Luffy battles Imu and we get the final stage. Zoro's ceiling is higher than Mihawk. It's to be the strongest swordman ever. (Ryuma)
@custardbrainy1653 they are Zoro fans you dont expect much logic from them they equally dumb as the mosshead, they reading zoro piece and I have a question to zoro fan why do you want to see him as strongest in the verse? imagine saying Krillin will be stronger than Goku or Genos will be stronger than Saitama its just crazy to even think about it but Zoro fans do it
All I've seen is Mihawk fans say Mihawk is the WSS meaning above any other swordsman which is canon information. It's the community that has categories for swordsmen simply because Shanks exists.
@@rainshinobi9706possibly, probably not but you have no idea your not oda your GUESSING, personally I think It will probably be one of his last major fights, prolly not his last but I don’t think he will do anything to crazy after mihawk, I think it will be towards the end
no one would bat an eye if it was shanks who was put above roger, rocks and wb mihawk didnt use haki at marineford saying shanks is top 1 is ok but having mihawk who is relative to shanks on matter who you think is stronger top 1 or above roger and wb is wild for some reason that does not make any sense
Saying shanks is top 1 is not okay 😂😂😂that shit is stupid the only character who we can say is top one is , whitebeard the author called him the strongest man , Rocks possibly fought a prime roger and garp can’t imagine that , and joyboy/imu literal gods
While Shanks does not beat Roger people try to say Shanks is above Roger because Shanks has the best Haki feats on screen in the current time of One Piece. A qoute from Kaido goes - "Look at Roger. He had no fruit power and still brought the world to heel such hurdels can only be overcome with Haki". So while that doesnt mean he beats Roger who hasnt had much time on screen to shine its more fair to try to put him above Roger than Mihawk who doesnt have the best Haki or strength feats in One Piece.
@SHARIAR353 Shanks said to WB that he gave his arm to inspire Luffy, if shanks haki can paralize greenbull than that sea king was just an ant for him still 1 arm Shank > Mihawk by feats once mihawk does something than bring fax not just what you think about Mihawk
Take the analogy of a professional athlete. A world champion swimmer would be better at swimming than a world class basketball player. Titles in one piece are probably very similar. The “worlds strongest swimmer” would be better than “the worlds strongest basketball player” in their respective fields, however that doesn’t mean that one is stronger than the other in every aspect.
I think buggy has the potential to become a greater swordsman than mihawk. In Marineford his reflexes (maybe future sight haki) made him automatically dodge mihawks strikes against him.
@@RhvftgbbgYes! Zoro will defeat mihawk with just swinging his sword around! Without using any haki! I guess him learning Adv conquers haki and king of hell! In his journey to become the strongest swordsman! Is pointless because he will just fight mihawk with his sword without any haki Lmao!
The thing with Mihaw and Jozu, is that people need to look at the narrative implications of that clash rather than just from pure powerscaling perspective. Mihawk said, he wanted to see the distance between him and Whitebeard, a.k.a the difference in strength between them, so he took a swing at Whitebeard, but Jozu blocked it and deflected it. It's Oda's way of saying that THIS is the distance between Mihawk and Whitebeard. Forget about closing the distance between them, he CAN'T even reach that level yet since he can still be blocked by one of Whitebeards generals
It was nothing that serious dude, Mihawk was just casually swinging his sword and Jozu stopped it. Stop making it sound like analogy. Also if the bar was that low I wouldn't' think Zoro's goal of beating Mihawk is that impressive. Narrative WANTS Mihawk to be strong. I'm not a Mihawk fan, and while I do believe in Shanks being weaker I've accepted the fact that it's just a hunch
I mean, Mihawk only took 1 swing, if Mihawk wanted too I'm sure he could send 10 more of those in a second but he's not the type of guy to do that. Mihawk isn't the strongest in One Piece, but damn people act like he's an absolute fraud, he is still absurdly strong.
Someone pointed out that no swordsman as of currently nor in the pirate King era was able to cut Diamonds This creates a possible hidden destruction behind Mihawk's attack...And possibly a higher scaling to his haki Daz Bones pointed to Diamonds after Zoro cut though his metal, so this arises that diamonds are the densest
As a Mihawk fan, Mihawk top 1 I don't know and if I'm being honest I don't think he is. However Mihawk stronger than Shanks is a pure fact. I don't think Mihawk is the strongest of one piece but I think he is 100% stronger than Shanks. But it's quite weird to make a video debunking Mihawk being the strongest of one piece when I see way more Shanks fan claiming he is the strongest in one piece and can solo 3 admirals. There are way more bad take about Shanks than about Mihawk if we are being honest. Now Mihawk being stronger than the old gen top tier like Roger or PrimeBeard depend on how you view the old gen. If you think they are character that are way stronger than the current gen and will never be top yeah this take about Mihawk wouldn't make any sense. However if you think like they are overrated and are in the same league to the like of Kaido by example, there is no reason to think that Mihawk or Shanks cannot win against Roger or PrimeBeard. In the same way that Roger are WB were legendary pirates so are Mihawk and Shanks. And the old gen is bound to be surpassed. The old gen evolved in an era where there weren't that much competition as far as we know. Which is the opposite of Mihawk or Shanks Who managed to be at the top of an era that was way more competitive than the old era. So it's not that crazy to believe that Mihawk or Shanks for that matter can easily compete with the like of Roger or PrimeBeard. Could they beat them ? Maybe , maybe not. We have to at least see them go all out.
@@ShonenShowdown This is such a disingenuous take. We have hours upon hours of content creators putting Shanks Top 1 and Top 2 of all time. Even Kol has him over Rogers EOS. You guys saw a few twitter users and their followers(some trolling) put Mihawk above Roger and now you're trying to flip the narrative that Mihawk fans think this way when most would disagree.
Stop sneaking propoganda here shonen showdown I'm sure that I have seen a similar post that says shanks is the strongest character in One piece Why didn't you make a video about that huh
Because I honestly didn’t. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but what I have been seeing are these Mihawk posts. Now I have seen people say Shanks is the CURRENT strongest alive, but these Mihawk posts are basically making him strongest of ALL TIME. There’s a huge difference. If someone said Shanks is the strongest of all time, I would disagree as well until more is revealed
@@ShonenShowdownThere are a lot of video of people saying Shank is the strongest of all time, You are just purposely not talking about it Because you have an agenda. You must know A few One piece Contact created like king of Lightning And many others big one . All of them are saying he is the strongest of all time. mihawk and dragon gets the most hate out of everybody and I know you like dragon which is weird because you never questioned his titled. Ps I 100% do not agree. He is the stronger of all time For someone who's a big Mihawk fan.
@@levipeter8381 Bro you have to realize Shanks was getting more hate for the longest. Most people called Shanks the weakest Yonko before Film Red. Now that Shanks stocks are up, everyone is looking at Mihawk because it's now his turn to beat the fraud allegations. That's it. And again, I did not see anyone saying Shanks was the strongest of all time. Not saying it didn't happe, I just haven't seen it. But I have seen people say Shanks is the strongest in current OP. If someone does, I disagree until it's proven otherwise. Current vs All Time are 2 very different things. That's all I'm saying.
@@ShonenShowdown Alright, I only agree that we have to wait for him to beat the allegation. Because I truly believe oda Won't have people like him and dragon and other people Who has top titles form way back from the beginning when one piece started. For me I cannot wait for Dragon and mihawk to show off.
You are wrong about Roger vs whitebeard The worse case scenario is a double KO , otherwise whitebeard winning extreme diff 1. Rogers sickness didnt affect his power level 2. Whitebeard and roger have almost similar haki 3. Whitebeard has better physical strength , durability, endurance etc 4. Whitebeard on top of that has one of the most broken devil fruit
@@boomerana. yes he has better skill But weapon no , both have Supreme grade weapon Haki , their CQC is probably equal And armament and observation being very close , roger probably has a sligh edge in this tho But their haki difference wasn't big enough to actually call it a difference
@@Ginko50 true. But I would have to argue for the Weapon part. Who has the stronger weapon, mihawk or Roger? Whitebeard has better physical than Roger, even though its just slightly, and he has a strong fruit. So it's only fitting Roger gets a haki advantage and speed advantage to match up
@@boomerana. ofc Mihawk has better weapon , due to it being a black blade , but ace is not a black blade Also mihawk uses yoru to its fullest capacity Roger may utilize his weapon better than WB but that does not mean its better This comes under skill Both of their weapons are classified as Supreme grade swords Also it was stated multiple times that roger and WB had comparable haki Roger is faster than WB but strength , durability , endurance is where WB is much ahead of roger DC and AP aswell
@@Ginko50 from what we've seen roger is more proficient with his weapon and armament. Not all blades of the same grade are the same strength. Yes their haki is comparable but that doesn't mean it's exactly equal. Whitebeards strength isn't way above Roger. If you compare their heights to other people it would make more sense. Imo Roger and whitebeard are equal in power. I think Roger has better ap and either one of them can win extreme diff. That's just my opinion tho.
Saying that Haki equates to Sword Skills is INSANE! Tons of people above Mihawk who have swords are worse swordsmen than Mihawk, but have amazing Haki that surpasses Mihawk's. If you're not following this theory you're basically saying that Mihawk is the BEST in the verse!
I mean I think Shanks is Stronger, But in fairness to Mihak, Losing an Arm Could make you Weaker (and would in real life) but thanks to Observation Haki, You could be Blind and still be a capable fighter, like Fugitora
The way i see it is they had a rivalry then Shanks lost his arm i doubt Shanks could match his rival right after losing his arm meaning Mihawk refused to fight him from then on. I just find it kind of stupid how some ppl think Mihawk is an idiot who doesnt know how to gauge other swordsmen when he told Zoro he should be able to before they fought. And that someone like Mihawk who is no nonsense serious type of guy would be proudly walking around being called the WSS if he lost to Shanks
Something that also told me that having a Black Blade has nothing to do with how much Haki you have is Ryuma. In One Piece Volume 4 Billion, it makes clear that because Whitebeard had a Supreme Grade Blade, it was able to withstand the FULL EXTENT of his power. Ryuma however had a regular graded blade, and he turned that into a Black Blade. Which should tell you that if Ryuma could make a faaaaaaar weaker tier of blade into a Black Blade, there has to be some sort of SKILL or technique you need to do in order to turn your blade into a Black Blade. Otherwise if making a blade into a Black Blade was POWER ALONE then according to Volume 4 Billion, Shusui should have shattered. I also thought it was obvious that Mihawk never wants to have a rematch with Shanks, not because of his power being lost, but because Shanks' lost arm was his sword arm. We see every time prior to Shanks losing his arm and even the way he holsters his sword, that he is left-handed. He holsters his sword (even currently) on his right side meaning you're supposed to pull it out with your LEFT hand, we see shots when he is a kid and he is holding his sword ALWAYS in his left hand, etc. Shanks losing his left hand means his SWORDPLAY is not the same. Thats why Mihawk doesn't want to fight Shanks anymore. He is now using his right hand to use a sword which is not as adept with a blade as his left was. Thats how it is IN REAL LIFE TOO. If a swordsman loses their arm in real life, they don't get weaker they just can't do the same skills with a blade anymore. Thats what it is with Shanks Also lets say this for instance, EoS Luffy vs EoS Zoro. We all know Luffy will be stronger than Zoro at the end of the series, thats just how it is. Now what happens if you put a sword in Luffy's hand and have him fight Zoro in a sword fight? Does Luffy overpowering Zoro with a Gear 5 mega sword attack mean he is now the World's Greatest Swordsman? No it doesn't. Plus, in what world would Oda not make Shanks stronger than Mihawk? Bro glazes Shanks every time he is on screen and even dresses like him. He does NOT do the same for Mihawk at all.
Logically speaking Mihawk should have the highest current bounty in the verse just based on 1. Having 3 Warlords in crew 2. Two of them are Yonkos. Well 1 is confirmed and the other has the status or considered as one just based on his Shanks rivalry 3. Mihawk was a Marine hinter which means he was directly attacking the WG. 4. They have the WSS in their crew. But he clearly doesnt have the highest bounty because hes not the strongest and most probably also not stronger than Shanks lol
Bounty isn't based on strength. So your argument is pointless. He's not the face of cross guild and the wg will not give him a bounty higher than they need to to draw more attention. If he was the face and the leader, he'd have a higher one but the face is buggy. So buggy is stronger than others because his bounty is higher? Obviously not
@@saladass41 When did i ever claim bounty are just only based on strenght?? BUGGY is in the Crew 🤦♂️🤦♂️. Did you read my third point? Also in Mihawks case it is mostly on strenght. Otherwise name something i dindnt mention about him thats also not strength based I don't even get your point? 😂.
@muchoyurdem5260 he's not actively hunting marines like before, and he's not the head of. He's just not seen as a threat as someone else like shanks whose the leader. Doesn't matter how strong he is, he poses no immediate threat and he has less influence than buggy. Black beard has a higher bounty and he is way weaker and has less renown than mihawk. It comes down to their personality and goals rather than just strength or status. Luffy has status, renown, and so much more and doesn't even make it past 3b. Bounties mean nothing tbh. And that's my point. It's all politics so you can't scale anyone with it.
@@saladass41 He's literally known and stated to hunt down the marine lmfao. STATED AS MARINE HUNTER 🤦♂️🤦♂️. "Before" he was a Worlord and as of right now HES NOT A WARLORD BRUHh. Yes it does matter how strong "he" is. Orherwise how do you explain someone that is PURLEY KNOWN IN STRENGHT AS THE STRONGEST SWORDSMAN AND NEVER HAD A CREW BEFORE. HE IS LITERALLY STATED TO POSE A THREAT TO THE WORLD GOVERNMENT 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. My guy are you delusional??? Do you have any brain damage? He's also not less known than BUGGY who newly became a Yonko whole Mihawk is already known to be rivals with a Yonko since almost a decade and also as the WSS Throughout THE WORLD since YEARS. Are you watching 2 piece? Mihawks goal has nothing to do with the Government nor does it concern them (WSS)🤦♂️. You def have not point. Its seems like you didnt even watch the series with all the nonsense you were saying 🤣
@@saladass41not pointless because bounty is all about threat level, bro has a point when he says his bounty should've been higher if he was a bigger threat than any other pirate or swordsman Buggy's bounty is higher solely because of influence, coz they still think he freed the prisoners in impel down
So first mihawk’s slash that jozu blocked, was not armament haki. Zoro has been doing air slash attacks since Skypeia. The only reason jozu is still alive is because Oda had not played out the power system of haki yet.
Today's episode was crazy too as just the kid version of mihawk just gave BB sweat, and that slash effortlessly is crazy, but Mihawk cannot be strongest because he is Zoro's end goal.
When Mihawk fans say hes #1 were excluding Imu. Most people exclude Imu from their rankings for now. Mihawks #2 if we include Imu and im sure most Mihawk fans would agree.
I know this is only a opinion but knowing Mihawks personality he would not have pride in a title he has not earned if mihawk was not actually in strength the wss he would have pride in the title on top of that it said in the sbs that mihawk fought all swordsman until there was no one left and he did this before the pirate era and he stood on top of all of them in the fact that mihawk has a black blade and the only other person to have one was considered a sword god and compared to the strength of joy boy should tell u how big a feat that is you where yapping fr mihawk> anyone in the verse besides imu And zoro said that the mihawk seraphim was more human then mihawk himself the same seraphim to be sending Blackbeard away the same swords slash mihawk tried to take whiteboard out with which had bo haki do you know what they say leave the strongest characters for last
Being a mihawk fan im waiting for some feats from him to go on conclusion on mihawk vs shanks. But "mihawk>>> roger, whitebeard" is some wild shit.😂😂😂😂
Your haki argument agains Jozu is flawed since haki wasn't expanded upon and everytime it was used it was mentioned , so saying it was used is as much of a headcanon as saying he didn't , also Oda could just simply retcon his strength and potrayel easily just like he did with Lucci and Crocodile both of which shouldn't have lost to Luffy back then Your point on bounty is also weird , i get that it's not direct indection and he is lower than Yonko but you forget that his bointy was frozen and he isn't even the leader of the crew he is in , like let's be honest do you think his bounty would remain the same if he was the leader ? And also it's weird you adress this Mihawk arguments as trash when there's like two people believe it while you have half the fandom putting Shanks top 1 or 2 of all time when we know for a fact he and Mihawk are in the same level ( doesn't matter who you think is stronger , it's still a small gap ) so really making video about two trolls who have Mihawk top 1 is blowing it out of proportion But all and all i agree Mihawk isn't top 1 and there's no evidence or objective way to put him above old legends so having him top 1 is headcanon and imo it's a bad take
Mihawk used a no name attack slash, your comparing his basic sword slash to a Divine departure or Gura punch. Mihawks same no named slash cut Aokijis ice berg in half when he wasn’t even aiming for it. Shanks Bounty: Mihawk Bounty: Territory WSS Crews. EX Marine hunter Yonko Ex Roger pirate Mihawk is the 1st commander of Cross guild, Buggy is the captain so he would naturally take credit for the entire organization. Swordsmanship is Its techniques and haki to make swordsmanship. If shanks isn’t a swordsman then why would they compare him to being inferior to Mihawk in swordsmanship in chapter 1058. If he isn’t a swordsman then why were they compared?? Why would Zoro be taught haki in the Timeskip and be mastering it since then for it to not be included in being the WSS. Also ur argument about Shanks losing his arm and therefore being less of a swordsman’s is absolutely true… and that’s why mihawk didn’t want to fight him anymore since if Shanks became weaker as a swordsman, his primary fighting style, he would be weaker in a fight. If 2 boxers were equal in power and haki, one lost his arm, the other would win in the fight because the other boxer can no longer use their arm and is held back tremendously by it Zoro will be the WSS, which means he will be strong enough to beat Mihawk even when held back with a missing eye
Well as a Mihawk top 1 believer (with the exception of Imu, so really i think hes top 2) Im gonna throw my knowledge on it that you missed and why i believe it. This is gonna be a long ass post so get ready or scroll on by. *First topic. Is Mihawk the true strongest Swordsman in the world? Is his title false?* Well that all gets answered by the databooks "He stood out even before the great age of pirates. And now at last, he reigns as the Worlds Strongest Swordsman in both name and actuality". For those of you who dont understand this databook *confirms* that Mihawks title is indeed true, that he is the WSS and he is currently above every swordsman in the world. *Second topic. Is Mihawk over Shanks?* Well the previous databook quote already proves it but lets take a look at another one. This ones from his Vivre Card, "He looks forward to the day a swordmaster will emerge to surpass even his rival, Red-Haired Shanks". Here it states how Mihawk is trying to find someone EVEN STRONGER than Shanks once again meaning Mihawk > Shanks is true. *Third Topic. Is Mihawk over the old Legends?* Lets be real right now. Mihawk is 44 years old which means hes in his prime. All the old legends at the time of them being called legends were even younger at around age 39. And you yourself said rob that the new gen would have to eventually catch up so my question is, when do you expect them to catch up exactly? Mihawk is a whole 5 years older than the legends already. Is he suppose to catch up when hes 50? 55? 60? Like lets face it, Mihawk is OLDER than all the legends and was renown for his strength at a young age just like them. Mihawk is in his prime, there's no sense in saying we should wait until they catch up when hes already there. *Fourth Topic. How is Mihawks title different from the others that have been proven to be wrong?* This ones my favorite because its so simple. Lets look at the other titles relating to strength that we learned to be false and then compare them to Mihawks at the end. Whitebeards title of Worlds Strongest Man was fraudulent for 2 known reasons with the main one being #2. #1 is because it was partially based on the publics perception. The very first thing we see at the start of the Marineford Arc is the publics perception of WB. "He's not just another old man, he hasn't lost it at all!". The guy literally has a song about him that goes like "The pirate Whitebeard is scarier than a devil!". My point being that WB is very highly regarded by the public in strength which in turn boosts the credibility of his title even when its false. #2 was because WB himself deceiving the world into thinking hes not sick made the title fraudulent as it wasn't based on himself as he was but as he use to be. The World alongside even the Marines thought that the WB they'd be facing was MUCH stronger than he actually was. You gotta remember that nobody knew he was sick. Nobody knew he lost his conquerors haki or his observation haki or part of his armament. Nobody knew he'd be in such bad shape that he'd be having whole heart attacks mid battle. And this was all because WB was hiding it from the world which allowed his title to stay. And now for Kaido's title which is even easier to disprove. Every time his title is brought up its never treated as fact. Its always public perception. "PEOPLE SAY, in a one on one bet on Kaido." "This pirate is SAID to be the strongest creature alive!!" "Kaido the king of the beast is OFTEN CALLED the most powerful creature in the world". Unlike WB who atleast has the claim that he USE to be the WSM Kaido's is just completely made up. There's 0 factual evidence towards Kaido's title being in any way shape or form truthful. And even if it was truthful, lets assume it was 100% correct and he was the worlds strongest creature that only makes him #1 amongst non-humans. And the last part of topic #4, how Mihawks title is different. In Mihawks Vivre card it was stated that Mihawk trained relentlessly challenging stronger and stronger opponents until there was nobody left. Now THATS how you EARN a title. Mihawk actually put in the effort to beat every single strong swordsman in the world to get his title. Not on some fraudulent behavior like WB where he just hides his weakening strength. Not on some fraudulent behavior like Kaido's title that is 100% public perception based. Mihawk actually EARNED his title and has something to show for it. That's the key difference. *#5 What about Mihawks antifeats?* Well one of them you answered yourself Rob, the breath of all things was what happened with Jozu and while you're right that if that was prime Garp or prime WB aiming at someone and getting intercepted by Jozu they'd just beat Jozu out of the way, its an an irrelevant comparison since they dont use the breath of all things. Anyone who does use the breath of all things no matter how strong would get blocked by Jozu if they're aiming at someone else. The breath of all things doesn't allow you to even cut a sheet of paper let alone solid diamond when you're not trying to cut it. When its in use, it doesn't matter how strong you are, you're not cutting something that isn't your intended target. Its not an antifeat if it has a canon explanation Rob. Second antifeat often brought up is Vista, which you yourself did Rob as a gotcha moment for him. Saying how Shanks does X impressive feat while Mihawk does X antifeat. But to this let me refer you to chapter 51 where Mihawk says "Im different from those stupid brutes who'd go all out just to hunt a mere rabbit". Here Mihawk outright says he does not go all out to fight weak people. He uses just as much strength as necessary and handicaps himself as much as he can "Unfortunately, i do not have a blade smaller than this at the moment". Any antifeat relating to Mihawk being stopped by seemingly far weaker people is answered by Mihawks own statements in his introduction. He uses just as much strength as necessary, no more no less. Hes not like Shanks who just beats your ass immediately and goes all out from the get go. Mihawk has canon in-manga explanations for his antifeats while Shanks getting negged by seaking and getting outmaneuvered by a basic mountain bandit with a smoke bomb is just there with 0 explanations, but dw, "ill spare you" as you said. Another one is Mihawk calculating the difference between WB and himself which is just people having tunnel vision or misreading. Nowhere did Mihawk say "I gotta test how much weaker i am than him". He said he specifically wanted to test how far apart they were which means how much weaker OR stronger he is than WB because he doesn't know WB like that. To take that quote as an automatic assumption that he was referring to him being weaker is just disingenuous. We all know Mihawk is stronger then Oldbeard so idk why this is even brought up. *#6 This ones about the short video of the 2 one piece youtubers speaking on it.* BM is not a swordsman because she doesn't use her sword as her main weapon. BM can still fight at full capacity without her sword. If you losing your sword means you are not at your peak then that's what makes you a swordsman. Take a sword away from Zoro and hes not at his peak. Take Law's sword and hes not at his peak. Take Shanks sword and hes not as his peak strength either. BM' strongest attacks all use her devilfruit, not her sword techniques. Another thing they said is that ONLY Mihawks swordplay is stated above shanks which is incorrect due to my first point mentioning the databook. Mihawk has been stated directly above Shanks not just in swordplay but in general. And to end this point off, Oda never said it was JUST his sword skills that gave him the title, that's never been stated in the entirety of One piece. Not in his databooks, not in his vivre cards, not in the manga or even the anime, that's a completely made up statement. It was just a singular statement saying he has better sword skills than Shanks, you're looking far too deep into that. Shanks is #3 of all time, Mihawk is #2 and Imu is #1. This was mostly just answering the video but ill list some additional reasonings in the reply of this comment that dont have to do with the video to further prove Mihawk is indeed #2 and the WSS.
#1 Stated to wield the strongest blade in existence in both the manga and the databooks, Yoru. #2 Turned a specifically Supreme Grade blade black. The reason why its important that its specifically a Supreme Grade sword that he turned black is because this is a direct upgrade from Ryuma's feat of turning a Great Grade blade black. And we both know just how highly this fandom considers Ryuma in strength. #3 Possesses the nickname of "Hawkeyes" referring to his mastery of base observation. For him to be known for his observation to the point of having an nickname on it shows mastery over base observation. #4 Mihawk also has the epithet of "The Clairvoyant". If you dont know Clairvoyant means to see into the future. This confirms Mihawk has future sight. And due to him and only him specifically having an epithet about it, it means his future sight should be mastered. Mihawk has 2 epithets relating to his obs haki mastery, for this reason i believe he has the #1 best observation in the verse. #5 Was stated to outright be a more skilled swordsman than Shanks in the manga. #6 Very strong implications of Mihawk possessing Conquerors Haki. In fishman Island Zoro knew what conquerors haki looked like despite never seeing it from Luffy pretimeskip or from that arc meaning the only time he could've possibly seen it was during his timeskip. And who did he spent his timeskip with? Mihawk. This is just shy of outright confirmation. #7 Another strong "evidence" point is this proposal. If Zoro unlocked ACoC on his journey to WSS then why wouldn't Mihawk on his Journey to WSS? Its the same kingly ambition which is the basis of getting conquerors haki. Its even stated that Mihawk trained relentlessly towards his dream just like Zoro. There's 0 reason to believe Mihawk doesn't have conquerors. #8 Mihawk said himself how Shanks is no longer worthy of being his rival and how he is no longer strong enough. This was also stated multiple times in the databooks and even his Vivre card as well with it saying how Mihawk looks forward for someone stronger than shanks to be his rival. #9 Due to Zoro's dream Mihawk has to be WSS guaranteed. Otherwise it'd invalidate Zoro's dream which has been hyped up for over 2 decades. It makes no sense for Zoro to defeat Mihawk EOS and then still not be WSS. This is extremely strong narrative. #10 Due to point the databook quote confirming he is the true WSS, every Swordsman's feats automatically upscales Mihawk. Anything you see a swordsman do, Mihawk can do better (generally speaking)
@@xdrago1051 been seeing you in comments every once in a while. I gotta say I really respect your opinions. You give good and factual evidence and I totally agree. To me that deserves a sub.
@@arongebremedhin9764 Fair enough. I don't got dragon in any ranking for now bc he's a total wildcard. We know he's strong but nothing tells us how strong. He could be #2.
I can reason with this. However, the Jozu point was mentioned because Mihawk fans are saying he didn’t use haki but the attack was intended for Whitebeard.
Roger did say the new ERA will surpass them, and the new ERA to roger was a mihawk and shanks, i believe they are stronger but they just have not showed the feats yet, but i believe they will show feats that will make them surpass the old gen as of rn, there not there "yet"
But rob... think about it. If mihawk used some unnamed sword slash + haki in whitebeards general direction and jozu blocked it in his diamond form.. don't you think it should be a feat because jozu would be using armament haki + his devil fruit for full defense against a casual swing of Mihawk's sword
Also! People seem to forget that mihawk’s air slash! That was send to luffy was easily blocked by Daz bones! But than mihawk proceeds to one shot him with the next attack! Because that slash was send directly at luffy who was flesh just like Whitebeard! And Jozu interfered who is Diamond!
@@Khaled68335crazy how we think an attack that’s cutting through ice random pirates and marines and would have to cut part of a ship was meant to only cut WB I understand the general implications but let’s be realistic. Mihawk clearly has stronger attacks but no where has it been demonstrated or explained that any of those attacks could hurt a yonko lvl character. So I think we can all agree Mihawk=
I feel like Mihawk fans think sword skill is all that goes into fights when swordsman fight eachother they don't factor in stuff like speed, haki, and other unseen abilities
I can’t see the WSS losing to someone with a sword makes no sense, Roger and whitebeard have never reached the pinnacle of the blade, rocks maybe we haven’t seen him yet
@anthonyscrew7162 says who? Heavannin much. And other people can be stinger without a black blade wth is wring with you fanboy? Mihawk is strong bit not that strong hence Zoro would never surpass him
Bruh, Mihawk has NEVER used a named attack in the series, including at marineford; he’s literally never put any real effort into a fight because he doesn’t have to. Mihawk is for sure comparable to prime WB & Roger in terms of Strength.
I think it would make sense that swordsmanship in one piece has a correlation with Armament Haki … at least in the anime we see that Zoro has to learn armament to control his sword … and we know with snipers in one piece that the best snipers are able to use observation haki … so the difference between a great swords man and haki use can be how well rounded they are … Mihawk can have the best technique and armament haki … while Shanks has the best observation and conquers haki which would make him stronger
Haki in general should be extremely important for a master swordsman. While coa and coc can be used to amp youre ap, dc and overall power, coo is needed to perceive and react quickly and perform youre moves the right time or dodge moves the right time. The same goes for general strenght, spee and endurance. All this thing needs to come together to make someone an truly master swordsman.
Mihawk asked vista to show him his swordsmanship. He was analyzing his attacks. He even said it wasn't from cheap tricks or a devil fruit. He easily overwhelmed his technique with one swing and just continued to throw down parrying all of his swings. He said let's put it on hold, because it wasn't that good. Just my take.
He didn't overwhelm Vista at any point 😂 what fanfic where you reading? He also never said to postpone it cause it wasn't good, why do you mihawk fans twist everything and lie.
Jozu was a test swing to test the gap. He wanted to see where how much his low level plain swing would make wb sweat. Given diamond is a naturally incredible hard material. And jozu was still struggling a bit. It's fair to say mihawk would destroy jozu if he put more intent behind the attack. I think there is levels to sword haki based attacks. Sword skill and haki make the swordsmen in one piece. I think mihawk's skill with yoru and haki allow him to overwhelm his opponents with accurate strikes. I don't put mihawk above prime wb or Rodgers. Mihawk is an interesting character because he only wants to fight 1v1s with strong opponents. Maybe he didn't even want to put in the work to beat vista. Mihawk is real but not pirate king +.
@user-fq7kt7py4e Jozu stopping that attack was a big laugh on Mihawk's face imagine Roger sends an attack for WB and it's stopped by Marko I would be shitting on Roger but you Mihawk fans still defend him with no facts just I think this and I think that, and by the way go read the manga Jozu never struggled against Mihawk attack its anime only in the manga there is no struggle. And WB never say Mihawk as a threat like yonko lvl shit
@@olegariocarrillo1416 @zaynali5588 I'm pretty sure mihawk showed up just bcuz he wanted to show the wg he did smthin and he probably wasn't giving his best into cuz when it was blocked he wasn't shocked one bit which is strange for a person whose main goal is tht he wants a challenging opponent
What Mihawk says is 推し量るだけだ…近く見えるあの男と我々の本当の距離を…/oshihakaru dake da… chikaku mieru, ano otoko to wareware no hontou no kyori wo… (One thing that’s interesting is that he never actually finishes the phrase- he just trails off a bit and then attacks.) Anyways, oshihakaru means ‘to conjecture/surmise’ and dake means ‘only’ so the first phrase is “It’s only conjecture.” Chikaku means like ‘closely’ and mieru is ‘to be visible’ or ‘to seem.’ I’m not entirely sure how to best translate this into English but probably something along the lines of “looking closely, (it seems…).” And ano otoko to wareware means ‘that man and us.’ (Wareware is a pretty formal way of saying ‘us’, too, which fits with Mihawk’s formal speech patterns.) So then there’s hontou no kyori. Hontou means ‘real/true’ and kyori means ‘distance.’ This bit stands out to me mostly because it’s highlighted with the small dots that Oda often uses to indicate emphasis or importance- generally sorta equivalent to bold or italics in English. So if I translated this, it would be like: “It’s only conjecture… looking closely, the real distance between that man and us…” TLDR: Yeah, Mihawk knows some shit is up.
@@Gonpachiro-sg1db See what you Mihawk fans do use words like probably wasnt which is headcannon was it stated that Mihawk was not serious when he said him self againts Luffy im serious bro you just cant defend Mihawk with facts just headcannon
As a Goathawk fan (who knows he’s stronger than shanks), we don’t claim those idiots. He’s the strongest swordsman in the current world, not of all time 😂
Yes he’s stronger thank shanks and I truly in my heart believe that if Zorro is throwing attacks that KAIDO of all people has to dodge then Mihawk can beat and behead him
4 minutes in and already bringing out an argument that is easily debunked by zoro using a projectile sword attack in skypiea long before he knew haki. hell cp9 had slashing projectile attacks before they knew haki. that alone completely negates any credibility for the rest of the video. i agree that mihawk ain't top 1 in the verse but seriously using jozu to try and argue mihawk has shit haki is on the same level of stupid as everyone calling him top 1.
What sounds more stupid? I’m genuinely asking. Assuming Mihawk used haki or assuming he didn’t? Because to me, implying Mihawk did not use haki for an attack that was intended for WHITEBEARD, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever bro. Again, you can say I’m stupid but how was that proven that there was no haki in the projectile blast?
@@ShonenShowdown True but then again wb had little to no haki aswell so he probably intented to use no haki in that projectile blast to make it fair. Atleast thats what i think. I 100% agree with you in the video tho.
@@conradthekingofcursesnobody was aware of WBs actual condition at that point, so that doesn't make sense. Not even WBs crew knew what his true condition was like.
And then Oda prove it why mihawk is the strongest swordman Even Whitebeard said that shanks battle with mihawk is legendary that we never seen Mihawk injury
Mihawk is currently top 1 in my opinion but I understand putting above the legends is ludicrous, it'll be ludicrous to put anybody above then until eos
As goofy as it sounds the idea of people turning off haki sounded stupid I know it’s a meme but seeing garp and kuzan train on a ship without haki. The idea could happen but most likely they used haki and Mihawk won
an other thing is that people say mihawk or just "great swordsmen" can use "the breath of all things" and choose what they want to attack. So could Mihawk slash through walls and only hit something that's on the other side? And why did the ground get tore up when Mihawk attacked Whitebeard, why would he WANT to destroy the ground?
Idk why this is even being brought into question because there's the worlds most straight forward example of this in Marineford apart from Jozu. Mihawk throws a slash at Luffy and Mr.1 who's made of steel and not his intended target blocks it with 0 difficulty. Mihawk in the next panel then oneshots Mr.1 this time because he IS his intended target. The breath of all things has been brought up in Alabasta and in Wano meaning its still very much a real thing Oda considers even to this day.
3:30 if the attack was intended for wb why should it cut jozu you just told us the reason yet 10 seconds late you mention the fact that jozu can’t block an attack from wb or roger it’s like your saying roger is not a swordsman if he intended to cut an opponent but another person stood in the way he isn’t cutting that person the attack damage reduced significantly let’s not forget Mohawks attack was nameless and it was barely a swing. And you ,entombed Mohawks haki wasn’t on the level of the old generation because jozu blocked it, you are avoiding the fact it’s. Nameless swing. You mentioned if prime roger was there he would be deadly I disagree prime roger would be the biggest threat there yes but he is definitely not taking out a Akainu aokiji Kizaru sen goku garp the warlords especially mihawk.you mentioned about Mohawks bounty yes it was given after cross guild but in the same text it was referred given to him based on his sheer POWER alone, that’s like saying zoro only has his bounty bcz he’s apart of Luffy s crew which is wrong. Also you can’t compare mihawk and dragon and cross guild and revolutionary army they are different the revolutionary army literally caused WARS BETWEEN NATIONs all the cross guild has done is put stars in marines heads and killed idk a marine captain that’s it they were recently formed unlike revolutionary army who were working constantly even before the great pirate era.
Mihawk having a blade blade alone puts him in the talk with Roger and Whitebeard. It's strange,the community has Ryuma over Roger and Whitebeard but Mihawk who is the only other person with a black blade can't be in the conversation because he doesn't have feats? Anyway in a few years Oda will show that Mihawk is just under Ryuma level
Whats crazy too is that Mihawk turned a supreme grade blade black. Ryuma did it to a great grade blade. Mihawk literally has a direct feat over the Sword God Ryuma yet Ryuma is considered stronger than Roger while Mihawk aint even Big Meme level to some.
all i know is shanks stopped kadio from going to war showed up at marieford and nobody wanted to fight no more but they was still fighting when it was just mihawk (shanks > mihawk)
Also while I agree that Mihawk is probably not beating roger just cause of his title, people also take rogers title of pirate king kinda too seriously. At that time not that many pirates were gunning for the one piece and Wb could’ve done it too as he had the power and oden but that wasn’t his goal
I disagree from what we seen from mihawk and roger. Mihawk is definitely stronger than roger. Roger is highly overrated he hasn’t done anything that convinces you he a step above any yonko level threat. Pirate king is not a level of strength
@abubakarjalloh8665 kaido only mentioned Roger as the top haki user and he fought wb, xebec if you Mihawk fans care about titles than Kaido by his title was the strongest creature even above Mihawk and that Kaido was putting Roger above all so easilly Roger > every character
@@kamixakadio2441Bruh yall say im insane but it’s the truth. From the show itself nothing convinces you roger is a step above everyone else. Roger is above anybody not with a high bounty it’s so obvious. Roger is not the strongest in the show based on feats
@@Stunt877 nah I think his feats of clashing with Whitebeard beating rocks and one shotting people like oden who gave kaido ptsd and fighting garp on multiple occasions can put him above mihawk
When will these kids understand that character portrayal, relevance and story > titles? This is shounen anime. Portrayal matters more than anything. Mihawk is not stronger than Shanks. Let alone Roger, WB and Rocks
Who's Portrayal are you reading blud? Mihawk has much better Portrayal than Shanks, Mihawk has said he could become a Yonko is he wanted, has stated to be stronger and more skilled with haki/swordsplay than Shanks, go argue with a wall
Mihawk has better portrayal than shanks through Zoro's dream lmao. Zoro's dream of beating mihawk looks pretty stupid if Shanks (a swordsman) is already stronger than mihawk. Why doesn't Zoro just chase after shanks then.
in marineford i think he was holding back just to show the government he did something...remember he just walked off when he did the attack wasn't shocked in anyway that it was blocked...and question for anyone What classifies a character as a "swordsman? can you call someone a swordsman just cause they use a sword without technique or skill? just using a sword to enhance your attack qualifies you lmk? shouldn't you be a master of the weapon n technique to be labeled a swordsman? i wouldn't consider Rodger a swordsman imo
doesnt the vivi card say that mihawk is looking for an swordsman stronger than shanks? so, wouldnt that mean mihawk >= shanks? yes, the power between them isnt huge but mihawk is still above due to wanting to fight a stronger fighter than shanks himself
@@user-de4zb4kd1yfair. but also other cards are stated mihawk is the strongest swordsman by name n not just by title. also, oda himself drew a cover art of all the swordsman in one piece n shanks was on it. mihawk is known n said to be the strongest swordsman so that automatically has mihawk above him
@@Mr.D1Crashout again. debunked. cause that cover was fan art not even drawn by oda he just commented on it and gave praise to the drawing 😭 also there are cards and vvire cards that say shanks 7 people crew is stronger than the warlords and WG combined which makes no sense.
@@user-de4zb4kd1ybut do u think shanks is an actual swordsman? "as the strongest swordsman in the world he is worth 3.59 billion berries" not only that he stated to be more skilled than shanks. also i just looked up the mihawk looking for an stronger opponent that isnt false or anything of the sort oda made it
@@user-de4zb4kd1y That's not even true bro what? What're you lying for? Zoro's vivre card says hes the strongest strawhat APART from Luffy. Its basically saying Zoro is #2. And second of all Vivre cards are approved by Oda, he reviews them and even writes some himself. They are fully 100% canon. "Naito: That's right. You can see it in color from head to the toes. In addition. Mr. Oda supervises each and every one of them, and he adds any missing information when checking." (It then shows an example of Oda handwriting one in) "Kappei: Hey ~~~, Professor Oda is serious. Is there any information for the first time? Naito: There are quite a lot of blood types and birthplaces! I also posted a rough sketch of Mr. Oda's settings. The information is disclosed at the very limit of the line (laughs). Kappei: Is that all supervised by Professor Oda? Naito: Yes. All the ones scheduled to be published in the future will be supervised by Mr. Oda. (We plan to publish a total of 32 sheets, 2 sets a month for each set of 16 sheets)" Lying for an agenda is craaazy ngl
Mihawk wasn't included because Kaido's never fought Mihawk. Im assuming that's your point, that Mihawks not in Kaido's top 5. Everyone in Kaido's top 5 are people hes fought or seen fight. Mihawks not interested in fighting Kaido since hes not a swordsman.
he didnt use haki when jozu(dimond guy) stopped the attack as zoro used projectile attack before he knew haki Edit- if we take real life reference hawks hunt rats, idk what is left to debate
@@ShonenShowdownMihawk said he wanted to test whitebeard strength before that attack. Trust me if he was using haki the author would have said it since in that same chapter he acknowledged luffys haki
@@DeadPalmMonkeyHe didn’t use haki it probably was just a sword slash. We talking about a man that makes a knife look powerful. If mihawk was using haki the author would have said he was using since in that same chapter he said luffy used conquerors
Aight I used to be a shanks fan but im kind of leaning toward mihawk so I don’t really stand on either side rn but mihawk is definitely not stronger than prime Whitebeard roger and rocks. People are taking that’s title way too far
shanks wipes the floor with mihawk lil bro. haki will always be the deciding factor. haki transcends weapons, devil fruits, etc.and there is no one alive in the verse with greater haki portrayal than shanks. that's what it comes down to
@@pain624I never said either one wins lil bro. And we also know that Mihawk has strong haki as well as he even has a black blade which takes a lot of haki. And they’ve dueled and neither has beaten the other
It depends some people say that Shanks has already surpassed Prime Roger and "if" that's the case Mihawk would be over both Roger and Shanks based on the narrative of Zoro being the WSS.
@@pain624 My man thinks Shanks has a haki Domain Expansion, blud what are you waffiling about, you geninuly are stupid enough to think Zoro will fight Mihawk was "skill" and completely forget what Enma uses yes, Ryou/ACoC, Mihawk..".Zoro Stop Right There" Zoro:..."what?" Mihawk:..."That's enough haki, we have to use SKILL" Zoro: "What is this Skill you are talking about, for the last two years you trained my haki, and not this skill?" Mihawk: "No i was wrong, all these two years i trained you to beat Shanks and not me, i did not teach you skill, therefore all you haki is useless." Is is what you are saying LOL
Wasn't Mihawks bounty stated to be unfrozen after they found out he joined the cross guild? I dont remember them adding on to it. I'm just saying his bounty is back now
oh HELL NAW HE IS NOT TOP 5!! Just to show some mercy, i will exclude featless characters such as imu and joyboy. 1. Ryuma prime 2. Roger prime 3. Whitebeard prime 4. Garp prime 5. Sengoku prime
Hey What do you think ab the suggestion of the diamond feat Most on Twitter are pulling the suggestion where no Swordsman, not even Roger was able to cut diamond Pointing out that the jozu feat is now hiding the true destruction of the sword slash
Roger using a regular sword slash or a weak named sword attack would he able to be stopped by jozu too. Divine departure didnt one shot oden (well oden is rlly strong but divine departure should be one of his mid-strong attacks(
Had to say this after all the chaos I've seen on Twitter recently. I'm cool with people arguing/roasting my takes BUT AT LEAST listen to the full video first. I'm not entertaining any points that have already been covered in the video. Now it's time!! PROVE ME WRONG or RIGHT lol (Also, peep this after you've seen this video: th-cam.com/video/3KbcYfDa-xE/w-d-xo.html)
Aight bet
I don’t think mihawk was using full power when he hit Jozu by accident bcuz he doesn’t seem like the type of guy to go all out from the start
He probably could’ve one tapped diamond jozu if he wanted to
@@_user0_ Here's why I brought that point up. People are saying Mihawk didn't use haki in that attack. So are we assuming Mihawk sent an attack to Whitebeard with NO HAKI in it? To me, that actually makes no sense, you feel me?
@@ShonenShowdownEven the “he didn't want to cut Jozu or his diamond” point is delusional. The attack affected other pirates, it cut the ice, and it had to cut a piece of the boat to reach white beard. So you're they're telling us mohawk said to himself. I'm gonna cut the ice I'm gonna cut the other pirates I'm gonna cut the ship? That's stupid and to counter that a part of Jozu’s body was not Diamond so he stopped the attack with his body. When Shanks goes to Whitebeard’s ship all commanders got out of his way cause they knew they didn't stand a chance. The same thing isn't seen with mihawk.
Mihawk is top 40
This is perfect for Mihawk. He wants to be underestimated, he just wants to chill. Like he said let buggy take the agro.
So when mihawk says Wb> you listen, but Mihawk also called shanks a cripple. You didnt mention that here, was that statement not worthy?
We can't have this discussion until MIhawk uses a named attack.
swordslash no1: spraypaint
@malcolndandaro3422 WB never used a named attack on marineford was he not serious to save Ace?
@@zaynali5588damn never noticed that. Mihawk needs a fight that he cares about, until then it all speculation
@@zaynali5588comparing a swordsman to a guy who uses a quake DF! Is a terrible take! When we all know swordsman’s has plenty of named attacks!
@@Khaled68335 WB does not depend only on his fruit he has Murakumogiri a blade known to be one of the 12 Supreme Grade swords in One Piece, and remember WB clash with Roger he never used his df it was adv conc clash so he has attacks without df
I don't think he's the strongest, but he is one of the strongest 1v1 fighters in the whole series, probably top 5. One of the biggest flexes Oda gives a strong character is every time they don't fuck up someone they can easily end in one shot.
Not in Kaidos top 5 tho
@@JackBlackYonkowell mihawk and shanks are both overrated in strength imo mihawk is stronger the shanks and i would put Mihawk top 10 but not above Roger I think he might be on par but stronger and no Mihawk got his title after Roger’s death wb is a devil fruit user and we really know like nothing about rocks so
@@marcnawezi1877when did mihawk fight Kaido?
@@zackary4063 Vista.
@@Imbored717 Would Kaido report against Vista ?
It happened, Mihawk fans drove Rob insane.
Mihawk fans caused so much blasphemy it almost broke Rob.
Mihawk is top 1 currently in ny opinion for swormen.. but the community is crazy for sayings hes over roger and white beard and rocks in there prime ive never heard anybody say that tbh...
we don't know whether roger or mihawk is stronger
In no way am i saying mihawk is stronger than roger or whitebeard. But the move jozu blocked was just a regular sword slash. It was an attack with no name.
mihawk said he wanted to test whitebeard...if his attack was actually weak that would be mad disrespect towards whitebeard
@@Proistorikossso bro threw out his most powerful attack first swing?🤧😭 a test is like almost half his strength if anything. And let’s not act like he made the war stop and pay attention just by doing it and he was far away from WHITEBEARD 💯
@Proistorikoss he swung a no name attack with one arm and you think that was his strongest attack? These Mihawk downplayers man 😂
So smart guy you think FraudHawk seriously wanted to fight with Whitebeard without even using haki ? 😂 What a big brain 🧠 waahh...👏🏻
Don't worry Rob we know
Just so we're clear though, projecting a slash isn't Ryuo. It's a swordsman technique that Zoro was using in Enies Lobby. If you want to use haki *on* a projected slash, that would likely require ryou, but projecting a sword slash itself does not require any haki at all
But let me ask you this. Would Mihawk send an attack, that is supposed to gauge Whitebeard’s power, with no haki in it? Based on the context, where Mihawk said he wants to measure the distance between himself and WB, sending an attack with no haki actually makes no sense, you feel me?
@@ShonenShowdown Sometimes things gets lost in translation Read this :
What Mihawk says is 推し量るだけだ…近く見えるあの男と我々の本当の距離を…/oshihakaru dake da… chikaku mieru, ano otoko to wareware no hontou no kyori wo…
(One thing that’s interesting is that he never actually finishes the phrase- he just trails off a bit and then attacks.)
Anyways, oshihakaru means ‘to conjecture/surmise’ and dake means ‘only’ so the first phrase is “It’s only conjecture.” Chikaku means like ‘closely’ and mieru is ‘to be visible’ or ‘to seem.’ I’m not entirely sure how to best translate this into English but probably something along the lines of “looking closely, (it seems…).” And ano otoko to wareware means ‘that man and us.’
(Wareware is a pretty formal way of saying ‘us’, too, which fits with Mihawk’s formal speech patterns.)
So then there’s hontou no kyori. Hontou means ‘real/true’ and kyori means ‘distance.’ This bit stands out to me mostly because it’s highlighted with the small dots that Oda often uses to indicate emphasis or importance- generally sorta equivalent to bold or italics in English.
So if I translated this, it would be like: “It’s only conjecture… looking closely, the real distance between that man and us…”
TLDR: Yeah, Mihawk knows some shit is up.
@@ShonenShowdown I 100% get where you are coming from, and I agree with the premise of the video, I was just disagreeing that a projected slash requires Ryuo.
I think that Mihawk is a better swordsman than anyone else, that meaning that he can use a sword the most skillfully. To achieve that level of skill would, by necessity, require some degree of haki mastery, which I think Mihawk has. I would personally place Mihawk at around the same level as Shanks. Shanks is still dangerous in a fight despite the loss of his arm, but Mihawk is no longer interested in fighting him because they can no longer test each other as swordsmen using sword skill. Where Shanks currently lacks in sword skill he makes up in haki, especially conquerors haki, but I think that this now means that he's no longer as skilled of a swordsman as he once was.
I feel like Shanks, Big Mom, Whitebeard and Roger were/are not skilled in sword techniques but have incredible mastery of haki techniques. It seems to me when watching those top tier characters attack or fight that they don't have mastery of sword/blade techniques and instead are using their weapons without technical skill but with incredible haki proficiency. I feel like all of those characters would be just as dangerous if you took their swords and instead gave them a kanabo or other blunt object like Kaido uses. That is to say those characters are using their swords more as clubs than as swords. For a lesser character, that would make them less dangerous, but for these top tiers wielding incredible amounts of armament and conquerors haki imbued in their weapons, it just doesn't matter. At their level the lack of technical sword skill doesn't matter when you're wielding sky splitting amounts of haki. It think that mihawk lags very slightly behind those characters in terms of haki prowess or physical strength, but makes up that difference with savant level technical sword skill.
@@ShonenShowdown this would make sense but we have to remember that Mihawk has the best observation hank in the series, this is why Shanks had to cut it off using his own haki during their fights or else he couldn't hit mihawk, so Mihawk may have already knew Jozu was gonna step in the way and he sent the attack without haki instead
@@teeko6688head cannon they fought over 12 years prior to shanks becoming a yonko thinking he had that lvl of haki then isn’t vindicated anywhere in the series. Just fyi
thank you for addressing this issue, it all over X that I'm so confused why people are comparing Mihawk to Roger, White beard and Rocks in strength. It feels surreal, and insane. I also agree your reasoning.
Why is the current, more relevant generation surpassing the old generation so bizarre to think about? It’s not even as if Roger or WB have some crazy haki or power feats lmao. It’s just y’all putting them on some pedestal for no reason except slight portrayal.
@@Sirius2376did you read marineford? Because if you did then you should see the gap and that’s an old sick whitebeard not a prime healthy WB who can use haki
@@jdogjr5320 What did he do exactly lmao? Aokiji was literally about to clap him up and Jozu needed to 3rd party and save Whitebeards ass, Kizaru was literally trolling WB all war, easily blasting holes through him. WB couldn’t even hit him once, not even when he sneaked him.
Akainu made him a magma filled donut and blew 1/3 of his face off, both being fatal wounds. Ik you’re gonna start saying WB knocked Akainu down into the deep pit and blah blah blah, but a de-ring from the fight doesn’t equal a loss. And Akainu was NEVER knocked unconscious during the fight either. At the end of the day he only suffered minor injuries and continued to literally solo the WB commanders afterwards.
And this is PRE TIMESKIP admirals who were holding back during Mf.
@@Sirius2376 I think the problem comes more from how the old generation is talking and is potrayed to the new generation makes it look there is this insane gap of power like the new generation's top dogs warlords, supernovas admirals and other such characters are the starter level to what the seas were in WB, Roger, Garp and others beginer times and it doesn't help how a lot of them complain about being too old for this while doing feats that make everyone who isn't amongs the strongest in the new generation piss and shit them selves out of fear constitly so it's kind off what the story wants us to belive and what the story has shown us doesn't really fit together well
when you were talking about mihawk's slash in marineford towards whitebeard being stopped by diamond josu you also have to realize mihawk's slash was directed towards whitebeard and the reason why this is matters is because mihawk tried to slash luffy who is weak to swords got blocked by mr 1 but literally in the next pannel of the manga got one shot by mihawk this means that slashes towards someone by mihawk is intended to damage that person not some other guy intercepting it
mihawk fans have gone mad
Fr. Mihawak Agenda is insane
It really be the zoro fans, tryna make eos zoro be the strongest
Nah people who hold the past pirates on a higher level are insane. Roger has not shown anything he a step above the top tier pirates if anything they all relative to eachother. The strongest characters are clearly imu sama and joyboy from the past because they responsible for everyone
Mihawk is not even top 30
@@Shaycormac1234 alive characters or of all time?
I always assumed Mihawks bounty was that low compared to Roger, Whitebeard, and even Shanks was because he had no crew, even with Buggy and Croco they still havent done much as a crew compared to the Red Hair pirates or even the Strawhats.
It was literally explained. He has a crew with Cross Guild because the bounty was introduced after he joined them. And they are much more dangerous than the other yonko crews because they literally and specifically hunt down marines and out bounties in their head which the other teams don't do.
@@luis15317 I'm talking about before Cross Guild, and even if Mihawk was known as a marine hunter before Cross Guild, could you name which marines? I know it definitely isn't admirals or even vice admirals that Mihawk hunted.
@abstractrain1246 he hubt3d Marines that's all there is to know which in itself is more dangerous to the WG than anything else. He literally was known as Marine hunter.
And befire cross guild he didn't have any bounty as it was freezed due to his status as warlord (and his bounty before that was probably pretty low similar to what Doflamingo, Kuma etc had or (croc and Boa had 80 million bounty and now they are at almost 2 billion).
@luis15317 People aren't afraid of Mihawk because he's a pirate hunter, they're afraid since he's the strongest swordsman. Pirate hunter is just an occupation, just like Zoro used to be a pirate hunter... but now that he's marine hunting again, who wouldn't be scared?
Rogers feats were established AFTER haki was introduced. Mihawk hasn’t been given the opportunity yet. His child form is pushing back yonko level opponents with unnamed attacks
Literally anybody will push Blackbeard back😂
Hitting Blackbeard is something litterally anyone can do. Every single fight we’ve seen, Blackbeard gets hit HARD first thing. He got slammed by Ace immediately, and then beat his ass. He got hit by white beard and then killed him. That’s just how Blackbeard fights. The only exception is boa, who has a one shot ability, so he’s obviously not letting her hit him.
Law pushed Blackbeard and 3 of his crew members at the same time, so what are we doing here? In fact, Boa pushed BB too. Zoro pushed S Hawk so are you saying Zoro beats BB? ABC logic doesn't work in one piece with these topics
@@BigDBGuru buggy?
@@edwardstones5956 okay you guys are saying getting hit. We all know bb takes the first hit. He got PUSHED INTO A MOUNTAIN. it’s not the same thing.
Mihawk top1 is becoming the new ZKK. In what world does it make sense that a Zoro target, not even an MC opponent is be the strongest? A lot of people who think Mihawk is a messiah are the ones who think he's gonna be Zoro's final fight.. which he WONT be. Zoro will become WSS before Luffy battles Imu and we get the final stage. Zoro's ceiling is higher than Mihawk. It's to be the strongest swordman ever. (Ryuma)
All you just said is headcanon 😭
@@Cubevision1 so you think zoro vs mihawk is gonna come AFTER luffy vs imu? AFTER luffy becomes pirate king? be logical
@custardbrainy1653 they are Zoro fans you dont expect much logic from them they equally dumb as the mosshead, they reading zoro piece and I have a question to zoro fan why do you want to see him as strongest in the verse? imagine saying Krillin will be stronger than Goku or Genos will be stronger than Saitama its just crazy to even think about it but Zoro fans do it
All I've seen is Mihawk fans say Mihawk is the WSS meaning above any other swordsman which is canon information. It's the community that has categories for swordsmen simply because Shanks exists.
@@rainshinobi9706possibly, probably not but you have no idea your not oda your GUESSING, personally I think It will probably be one of his last major fights, prolly not his last but I don’t think he will do anything to crazy after mihawk, I think it will be towards the end
no one would bat an eye if it was shanks who was put above roger, rocks and wb
mihawk didnt use haki at marineford
saying shanks is top 1 is ok but
having mihawk who is relative to shanks
on matter who you think is stronger
top 1 or above roger and wb is wild for some reason
that does not make any sense
yeah i agree and i think what they are saying in x is true , it's literally said the strongest swordsman not character .
Saying shanks is top 1 is not okay 😂😂😂that shit is stupid the only character who we can say is top one is , whitebeard the author called him the strongest man , Rocks possibly fought a prime roger and garp can’t imagine that , and joyboy/imu literal gods
While Shanks does not beat Roger people try to say Shanks is above Roger because Shanks has the best Haki feats on screen in the current time of One Piece. A qoute from Kaido goes - "Look at Roger. He had no fruit power and still brought the world to heel such hurdels can only be overcome with Haki". So while that doesnt mean he beats Roger who hasnt had much time on screen to shine its more fair to try to put him above Roger than Mihawk who doesnt have the best Haki or strength feats in One Piece.
Since when is Shanks stronger than those three?
@@jossj3005nobody seriously says that shanks is stronger that roger or wb prime he is just the stronger right now
WE LIKE THE LONGER VIDS ROB!👏👏👏
16:30 well I think Mihawk fans gonna have to spare you from Shanks losing his arm to a sea king that Ch. 1 Luffy one shoted.
or waaiting until whitebeard kaido and bigmom were replaced with bum.d teach and buggy before going for the one peiece
@SHARIAR353 Shanks said to WB that he gave his arm to inspire Luffy, if shanks haki can paralize greenbull than that sea king was just an ant for him still 1 arm Shank > Mihawk by feats once mihawk does something than bring fax not just what you think about Mihawk
Yeah right to inspire someone Who was already inspired lmaoooooooo 😂😂😂 man stop
cry about it shankstards mihawk solos that red haired rat
@@zaynali5588
@@zaynali5588 yeah so ur opinion> narrative??😂😂
Take the analogy of a professional athlete. A world champion swimmer would be better at swimming than a world class basketball player. Titles in one piece are probably very similar. The “worlds strongest swimmer” would be better than “the worlds strongest basketball player” in their respective fields, however that doesn’t mean that one is stronger than the other in every aspect.
I think buggy has the potential to become a greater swordsman than mihawk. In Marineford his reflexes (maybe future sight haki) made him automatically dodge mihawks strikes against him.
Nah it was definitely advanced galaxial haki that lets him one shot anyone
yeah his clown haki might put him above everyone in the series when it ends his potential is high af
Buggy probably solos dbz
Yo this video is hilarious 😂lmao Rob snapped!😂😂😂
Shanks Haki got stronger since he lost his arm bc he can focus on one arm 🤣
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Mihawk is just one of the strongest people in one piece he’s just a great swordsman that can’t easily be taken down
3:13 but still it was so effortless though, he is not the strongest though
Nice video bro no bias just straight fact
u must be a shanks gobbler too
Mihawk is truly the strongest Swordman in the world. Nothing will change my mind until Oda prove otherwise in Onepiece
@@RhvftgbbgYes! Zoro will defeat mihawk with just swinging his sword around! Without using any haki! I guess him learning Adv conquers haki and king of hell! In his journey to become the strongest swordsman! Is pointless because he will just fight mihawk with his sword without any haki Lmao!
Topt turned my boy into a one piece creator. We absolutely LOVE to see it
Someone got showdown on hots! He standing on bidness.
Mihawk > tho 😅😅😅😅😅
Most aggressive opening I’ve heard from this dude
The thing with Mihaw and Jozu, is that people need to look at the narrative implications of that clash rather than just from pure powerscaling perspective.
Mihawk said, he wanted to see the distance between him and Whitebeard, a.k.a the difference in strength between them, so he took a swing at Whitebeard, but Jozu blocked it and deflected it. It's Oda's way of saying that THIS is the distance between Mihawk and Whitebeard. Forget about closing the distance between them, he CAN'T even reach that level yet since he can still be blocked by one of Whitebeards generals
Shanks unnamed attack should kill Jozu because his Haki is better than Mihawk, or Mihawk wasn't using Haki at all during that attack.
It was nothing that serious dude, Mihawk was just casually swinging his sword and Jozu stopped it. Stop making it sound like analogy. Also if the bar was that low I wouldn't' think Zoro's goal of beating Mihawk is that impressive. Narrative WANTS Mihawk to be strong. I'm not a Mihawk fan, and while I do believe in Shanks being weaker I've accepted the fact that it's just a hunch
I mean, Mihawk only took 1 swing, if Mihawk wanted too I'm sure he could send 10 more of those in a second but he's not the type of guy to do that. Mihawk isn't the strongest in One Piece, but damn people act like he's an absolute fraud, he is still absurdly strong.
Someone pointed out that no swordsman as of currently nor in the pirate King era was able to cut Diamonds
This creates a possible hidden destruction behind Mihawk's attack...And possibly a higher scaling to his haki
Daz Bones pointed to Diamonds after Zoro cut though his metal, so this arises that diamonds are the densest
Exactly, exact fucking ly, that is literally the narrative point!
19:58 the stare at the camera 😂😂😂😂
Enough is enough !🗣️
Mihawk D. Painter and Shanks D. Rat are the victims of Luffy D. GOAT
mihawk the professional painter
Me 3 seconds into the video: "Ok. See u next time"
As a Mihawk fan, Mihawk top 1 I don't know and if I'm being honest I don't think he is.
However Mihawk stronger than Shanks is a pure fact. I don't think Mihawk is the strongest of one piece but I think he is 100% stronger than Shanks.
But it's quite weird to make a video debunking Mihawk being the strongest of one piece when I see way more Shanks fan claiming he is the strongest in one piece and can solo 3 admirals. There are way more bad take about Shanks than about Mihawk if we are being honest.
Now Mihawk being stronger than the old gen top tier like Roger or PrimeBeard depend on how you view the old gen. If you think they are character that are way stronger than the current gen and will never be top yeah this take about Mihawk wouldn't make any sense.
However if you think like they are overrated and are in the same league to the like of Kaido by example, there is no reason to think that Mihawk or Shanks cannot win against Roger or PrimeBeard.
In the same way that Roger are WB were legendary pirates so are Mihawk and Shanks. And the old gen is bound to be surpassed.
The old gen evolved in an era where there weren't that much competition as far as we know. Which is the opposite of Mihawk or Shanks Who managed to be at the top of an era that was way more competitive than the old era.
So it's not that crazy to believe that Mihawk or Shanks for that matter can easily compete with the like of Roger or PrimeBeard. Could they beat them ? Maybe , maybe not. We have to at least see them go all out.
I can address those too but I really have seen only Mihawk because Top 1 of all time. On Shanks side, I’ve seen top 1 current but not all time
@@ShonenShowdownShanks being the current top 1 is already a bad take.
@@ShonenShowdown This is such a disingenuous take. We have hours upon hours of content creators putting Shanks Top 1 and Top 2 of all time. Even Kol has him over Rogers EOS. You guys saw a few twitter users and their followers(some trolling) put Mihawk above Roger and now you're trying to flip the narrative that Mihawk fans think this way when most would disagree.
@@joyboyspegel3527 Facts !! Thank you.
@@donrog5035 Putting Mihawk above Shanks, is also a horrible take. That would be like putting Zoro above Luffy.
"Shout out to Napoleon" 20:23
Stop sneaking propoganda here shonen showdown I'm sure that I have seen a similar post that says shanks is the strongest character in One piece
Why didn't you make a video about that huh
Because I honestly didn’t. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but what I have been seeing are these Mihawk posts. Now I have seen people say Shanks is the CURRENT strongest alive, but these Mihawk posts are basically making him strongest of ALL TIME. There’s a huge difference. If someone said Shanks is the strongest of all time, I would disagree as well until more is revealed
@@ShonenShowdownThere are a lot of video of people saying Shank is the strongest of all time, You are just purposely not talking about it Because you have an agenda.
You must know A few One piece Contact created like king of Lightning And many others big one .
All of them are saying he is the strongest of all time.
mihawk and dragon gets the most hate out of everybody and I know you like dragon which is weird because you never questioned his titled.
Ps I 100% do not agree. He is the stronger of all time For someone who's a big Mihawk fan.
@@levipeter8381 Bro you have to realize Shanks was getting more hate for the longest. Most people called Shanks the weakest Yonko before Film Red. Now that Shanks stocks are up, everyone is looking at Mihawk because it's now his turn to beat the fraud allegations. That's it. And again, I did not see anyone saying Shanks was the strongest of all time. Not saying it didn't happe, I just haven't seen it. But I have seen people say Shanks is the strongest in current OP. If someone does, I disagree until it's proven otherwise. Current vs All Time are 2 very different things. That's all I'm saying.
@@ShonenShowdown Alright, I only agree that we have to wait for him to beat the allegation.
Because I truly believe oda Won't have people like him and dragon and other people Who has top titles form way back from the beginning when one piece started.
For me I cannot wait for Dragon and mihawk to show off.
he is a disgusing hypocrite that's why
Bro said I gotta make a whole video 😂😂😂
You are wrong about
Roger vs whitebeard
The worse case scenario is a double KO , otherwise whitebeard winning extreme diff
1. Rogers sickness didnt affect his power level
2. Whitebeard and roger have almost similar haki
3. Whitebeard has better physical strength , durability, endurance etc
4. Whitebeard on top of that has one of the most broken devil fruit
Roger has better swordskill, a better weapon, and possibly better haki.
Whitebeard has better durability, endurance, and a fruit
@@boomerana. yes he has better skill
But weapon no , both have Supreme grade weapon
Haki , their CQC is probably equal
And armament and observation being very close , roger probably has a sligh edge in this tho
But their haki difference wasn't big enough to actually call it a difference
@@Ginko50 true. But I would have to argue for the Weapon part. Who has the stronger weapon, mihawk or Roger? Whitebeard has better physical than Roger, even though its just slightly, and he has a strong fruit. So it's only fitting Roger gets a haki advantage and speed advantage to match up
@@boomerana. ofc Mihawk has better weapon , due to it being a black blade , but ace is not a black blade
Also mihawk uses yoru to its fullest capacity
Roger may utilize his weapon better than WB but that does not mean its better
This comes under skill
Both of their weapons are classified as Supreme grade swords
Also it was stated multiple times that roger and WB had comparable haki
Roger is faster than WB but strength , durability , endurance is where WB is much ahead of roger
DC and AP aswell
@@Ginko50 from what we've seen roger is more proficient with his weapon and armament. Not all blades of the same grade are the same strength. Yes their haki is comparable but that doesn't mean it's exactly equal. Whitebeards strength isn't way above Roger. If you compare their heights to other people it would make more sense. Imo Roger and whitebeard are equal in power. I think Roger has better ap and either one of them can win extreme diff. That's just my opinion tho.
Saying that Haki equates to Sword Skills is INSANE! Tons of people above Mihawk who have swords are worse swordsmen than Mihawk, but have amazing Haki that surpasses Mihawk's. If you're not following this theory you're basically saying that Mihawk is the BEST in the verse!
I mean I think Shanks is Stronger, But in fairness to Mihak, Losing an Arm Could make you Weaker (and would in real life) but thanks to Observation Haki, You could be Blind and still be a capable fighter, like Fugitora
Thanks for for pointing out the obvious 🤓
@@ShanksHako001 Hey, I felt like in this toxic discourse, using indisputable facts is necessary.
The way i see it is they had a rivalry then Shanks lost his arm i doubt Shanks could match his rival right after losing his arm meaning Mihawk refused to fight him from then on.
I just find it kind of stupid how some ppl think Mihawk is an idiot who doesnt know how to gauge other swordsmen when he told Zoro he should be able to before they fought.
And that someone like Mihawk who is no nonsense serious type of guy would be proudly walking around being called the WSS if he lost to Shanks
Something that also told me that having a Black Blade has nothing to do with how much Haki you have is Ryuma. In One Piece Volume 4 Billion, it makes clear that because Whitebeard had a Supreme Grade Blade, it was able to withstand the FULL EXTENT of his power. Ryuma however had a regular graded blade, and he turned that into a Black Blade. Which should tell you that if Ryuma could make a faaaaaaar weaker tier of blade into a Black Blade, there has to be some sort of SKILL or technique you need to do in order to turn your blade into a Black Blade. Otherwise if making a blade into a Black Blade was POWER ALONE then according to Volume 4 Billion, Shusui should have shattered.
I also thought it was obvious that Mihawk never wants to have a rematch with Shanks, not because of his power being lost, but because Shanks' lost arm was his sword arm. We see every time prior to Shanks losing his arm and even the way he holsters his sword, that he is left-handed. He holsters his sword (even currently) on his right side meaning you're supposed to pull it out with your LEFT hand, we see shots when he is a kid and he is holding his sword ALWAYS in his left hand, etc. Shanks losing his left hand means his SWORDPLAY is not the same. Thats why Mihawk doesn't want to fight Shanks anymore. He is now using his right hand to use a sword which is not as adept with a blade as his left was. Thats how it is IN REAL LIFE TOO. If a swordsman loses their arm in real life, they don't get weaker they just can't do the same skills with a blade anymore. Thats what it is with Shanks
Also lets say this for instance, EoS Luffy vs EoS Zoro. We all know Luffy will be stronger than Zoro at the end of the series, thats just how it is. Now what happens if you put a sword in Luffy's hand and have him fight Zoro in a sword fight? Does Luffy overpowering Zoro with a Gear 5 mega sword attack mean he is now the World's Greatest Swordsman? No it doesn't.
Plus, in what world would Oda not make Shanks stronger than Mihawk? Bro glazes Shanks every time he is on screen and even dresses like him. He does NOT do the same for Mihawk at all.
Logically speaking Mihawk should have the highest current bounty in the verse just based on
1. Having 3 Warlords in crew
2. Two of them are Yonkos. Well 1 is confirmed and the other has the status or considered as one just based on his Shanks rivalry
3. Mihawk was a Marine hinter which means he was directly attacking the WG.
4. They have the WSS in their crew.
But he clearly doesnt have the highest bounty because hes not the strongest and most probably also not stronger than Shanks lol
Bounty isn't based on strength. So your argument is pointless. He's not the face of cross guild and the wg will not give him a bounty higher than they need to to draw more attention. If he was the face and the leader, he'd have a higher one but the face is buggy. So buggy is stronger than others because his bounty is higher? Obviously not
@@saladass41 When did i ever claim bounty are just only based on strenght?? BUGGY is in the Crew 🤦♂️🤦♂️.
Did you read my third point?
Also in Mihawks case it is mostly on strenght. Otherwise name something i dindnt mention about him thats also not strength based
I don't even get your point? 😂.
@muchoyurdem5260 he's not actively hunting marines like before, and he's not the head of. He's just not seen as a threat as someone else like shanks whose the leader. Doesn't matter how strong he is, he poses no immediate threat and he has less influence than buggy. Black beard has a higher bounty and he is way weaker and has less renown than mihawk. It comes down to their personality and goals rather than just strength or status. Luffy has status, renown, and so much more and doesn't even make it past 3b. Bounties mean nothing tbh. And that's my point. It's all politics so you can't scale anyone with it.
@@saladass41 He's literally known and stated to hunt down the marine lmfao. STATED AS MARINE HUNTER 🤦♂️🤦♂️. "Before" he was a Worlord and as of right now HES NOT A WARLORD BRUHh. Yes it does matter how strong "he" is. Orherwise how do you explain someone that is PURLEY KNOWN IN STRENGHT AS THE STRONGEST SWORDSMAN AND NEVER HAD A CREW BEFORE.
HE IS LITERALLY STATED TO POSE A THREAT TO THE WORLD GOVERNMENT 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. My guy are you delusional??? Do you have any brain damage? He's also not less known than BUGGY who newly became a Yonko whole Mihawk is already known to be rivals with a Yonko since almost a decade and also as the WSS Throughout THE WORLD since YEARS. Are you watching 2 piece? Mihawks goal has nothing to do with the Government nor does it concern them (WSS)🤦♂️.
You def have not point. Its seems like you didnt even watch the series with all the nonsense you were saying 🤣
@@saladass41not pointless because bounty is all about threat level, bro has a point when he says his bounty should've been higher if he was a bigger threat than any other pirate or swordsman
Buggy's bounty is higher solely because of influence, coz they still think he freed the prisoners in impel down
So first mihawk’s slash that jozu blocked, was not armament haki. Zoro has been doing air slash attacks since Skypeia. The only reason jozu is still alive is because Oda had not played out the power system of haki yet.
Today's episode was crazy too as just the kid version of mihawk just gave BB sweat, and that slash effortlessly is crazy, but Mihawk cannot be strongest because he is Zoro's end goal.
Just because he zoros end goal doesn’t mean he not on that level
Will he didn't do any damage to Blackbeard & according to Zoro himself " he said that in Egghead" you can't damage flames on Lunarians
Kid Mihawk didnt have Lunarian hax. S-Hawk is deff stronger than Mihawk was when he was younger...
@@n.6847 they will always ignore the lunarian thing
You can't damage them if there flames are on
When Mihawk fans say hes #1 were excluding Imu. Most people exclude Imu from their rankings for now. Mihawks #2 if we include Imu and im sure most Mihawk fans would agree.
If Mihawk was named Yonko instead of buggy, his bounty would've been higher
They be putting Mihawk above strongest pirates, but Mihawk can't even kill 2 commanders in an instant😂
I know this is only a opinion but knowing Mihawks personality he would not have pride in a title he has not earned if mihawk was not actually in strength the wss he would have pride in the title on top of that it said in the sbs that mihawk fought all swordsman until there was no one left and he did this before the pirate era and he stood on top of all of them in the fact that mihawk has a black blade and the only other person to have one was considered a sword god and compared to the strength of joy boy should tell u how big a feat that is you where yapping fr mihawk> anyone in the verse besides imu
And zoro said that the mihawk seraphim was more human then mihawk himself the same seraphim to be sending Blackbeard away the same swords slash mihawk tried to take whiteboard out with which had bo haki do you know what they say leave the strongest characters for last
Being a mihawk fan im waiting for some feats from him to go on conclusion on mihawk vs shanks. But "mihawk>>> roger, whitebeard" is some wild shit.😂😂😂😂
I still have roger and WB over hawkeye, but deadass I wouldn’t be surprised if Oda decides to him stronger than those two in the future
The. Boi. Spitting. 🔥
The day Mihawk uses a named attack, your rubish Talk Show Agenda will crumble to the dust
all we can do is wait till mihawk actually fight someone strong
Your haki argument agains Jozu is flawed since haki wasn't expanded upon and everytime it was used it was mentioned , so saying it was used is as much of a headcanon as saying he didn't , also Oda could just simply retcon his strength and potrayel easily just like he did with Lucci and Crocodile both of which shouldn't have lost to Luffy back then
Your point on bounty is also weird , i get that it's not direct indection and he is lower than Yonko but you forget that his bointy was frozen and he isn't even the leader of the crew he is in , like let's be honest do you think his bounty would remain the same if he was the leader ?
And also it's weird you adress this Mihawk arguments as trash when there's like two people believe it while you have half the fandom putting Shanks top 1 or 2 of all time when we know for a fact he and Mihawk are in the same level ( doesn't matter who you think is stronger , it's still a small gap ) so really making video about two trolls who have Mihawk top 1 is blowing it out of proportion
But all and all i agree Mihawk isn't top 1 and there's no evidence or objective way to put him above old legends so having him top 1 is headcanon and imo it's a bad take
tell em Rob 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
Mihawk used a no name attack slash, your comparing his basic sword slash to a Divine departure or Gura punch. Mihawks same no named slash cut Aokijis ice berg in half when he wasn’t even aiming for it.
Shanks Bounty: Mihawk Bounty:
Territory WSS
Crews. EX Marine hunter
Yonko
Ex Roger pirate
Mihawk is the 1st commander of Cross guild, Buggy is the captain so he would naturally take credit for the entire organization.
Swordsmanship is Its techniques and haki to make swordsmanship. If shanks isn’t a swordsman then why would they compare him to being inferior to Mihawk in swordsmanship in chapter 1058. If he isn’t a swordsman then why were they compared??
Why would Zoro be taught haki in the Timeskip and be mastering it since then for it to not be included in being the WSS.
Also ur argument about Shanks losing his arm and therefore being less of a swordsman’s is absolutely true… and that’s why mihawk didn’t want to fight him anymore since if Shanks became weaker as a swordsman, his primary fighting style, he would be weaker in a fight.
If 2 boxers were equal in power and haki, one lost his arm, the other would win in the fight because the other boxer can no longer use their arm and is held back tremendously by it
Zoro will be the WSS, which means he will be strong enough to beat Mihawk even when held back with a missing eye
Y'all keep crying about no name attacks, show me any panel that WB named any attacks, plus the first ever split sky is just a normal swing 😭💀
@@JohnnyOtama same with Luffy and Kaido but it’s silly to say Luffy > Mihawk.
I'm not reading allat
@@rapid..z show me any panel that puts him above current luffy
wait didn't shanks loose his arms to sea king 🤣🤣🤣mihawk or the other four emperor would never
Damn ain’t caught up can’t even do it hope y’all enjoy another banger lol
Well as a Mihawk top 1 believer (with the exception of Imu, so really i think hes top 2) Im gonna throw my knowledge on it that you missed and why i believe it. This is gonna be a long ass post so get ready or scroll on by.
*First topic. Is Mihawk the true strongest Swordsman in the world? Is his title false?*
Well that all gets answered by the databooks "He stood out even before the great age of pirates. And now at last, he reigns as the Worlds Strongest Swordsman in both name and actuality". For those of you who dont understand this databook *confirms* that Mihawks title is indeed true, that he is the WSS and he is currently above every swordsman in the world.
*Second topic. Is Mihawk over Shanks?*
Well the previous databook quote already proves it but lets take a look at another one. This ones from his Vivre Card, "He looks forward to the day a swordmaster will emerge to surpass even his rival, Red-Haired Shanks". Here it states how Mihawk is trying to find someone EVEN STRONGER than Shanks once again meaning Mihawk > Shanks is true.
*Third Topic. Is Mihawk over the old Legends?*
Lets be real right now. Mihawk is 44 years old which means hes in his prime. All the old legends at the time of them being called legends were even younger at around age 39. And you yourself said rob that the new gen would have to eventually catch up so my question is, when do you expect them to catch up exactly? Mihawk is a whole 5 years older than the legends already. Is he suppose to catch up when hes 50? 55? 60? Like lets face it, Mihawk is OLDER than all the legends and was renown for his strength at a young age just like them. Mihawk is in his prime, there's no sense in saying we should wait until they catch up when hes already there.
*Fourth Topic. How is Mihawks title different from the others that have been proven to be wrong?*
This ones my favorite because its so simple. Lets look at the other titles relating to strength that we learned to be false and then compare them to Mihawks at the end. Whitebeards title of Worlds Strongest Man was fraudulent for 2 known reasons with the main one being #2. #1 is because it was partially based on the publics perception. The very first thing we see at the start of the Marineford Arc is the publics perception of WB. "He's not just another old man, he hasn't lost it at all!". The guy literally has a song about him that goes like "The pirate Whitebeard is scarier than a devil!". My point being that WB is very highly regarded by the public in strength which in turn boosts the credibility of his title even when its false. #2 was because WB himself deceiving the world into thinking hes not sick made the title fraudulent as it wasn't based on himself as he was but as he use to be. The World alongside even the Marines thought that the WB they'd be facing was MUCH stronger than he actually was. You gotta remember that nobody knew he was sick. Nobody knew he lost his conquerors haki or his observation haki or part of his armament. Nobody knew he'd be in such bad shape that he'd be having whole heart attacks mid battle. And this was all because WB was hiding it from the world which allowed his title to stay.
And now for Kaido's title which is even easier to disprove. Every time his title is brought up its never treated as fact. Its always public perception. "PEOPLE SAY, in a one on one bet on Kaido." "This pirate is SAID to be the strongest creature alive!!" "Kaido the king of the beast is OFTEN CALLED the most powerful creature in the world". Unlike WB who atleast has the claim that he USE to be the WSM Kaido's is just completely made up. There's 0 factual evidence towards Kaido's title being in any way shape or form truthful. And even if it was truthful, lets assume it was 100% correct and he was the worlds strongest creature that only makes him #1 amongst non-humans.
And the last part of topic #4, how Mihawks title is different. In Mihawks Vivre card it was stated that Mihawk trained relentlessly challenging stronger and stronger opponents until there was nobody left. Now THATS how you EARN a title. Mihawk actually put in the effort to beat every single strong swordsman in the world to get his title. Not on some fraudulent behavior like WB where he just hides his weakening strength. Not on some fraudulent behavior like Kaido's title that is 100% public perception based. Mihawk actually EARNED his title and has something to show for it. That's the key difference.
*#5 What about Mihawks antifeats?*
Well one of them you answered yourself Rob, the breath of all things was what happened with Jozu and while you're right that if that was prime Garp or prime WB aiming at someone and getting intercepted by Jozu they'd just beat Jozu out of the way, its an an irrelevant comparison since they dont use the breath of all things. Anyone who does use the breath of all things no matter how strong would get blocked by Jozu if they're aiming at someone else. The breath of all things doesn't allow you to even cut a sheet of paper let alone solid diamond when you're not trying to cut it. When its in use, it doesn't matter how strong you are, you're not cutting something that isn't your intended target. Its not an antifeat if it has a canon explanation Rob.
Second antifeat often brought up is Vista, which you yourself did Rob as a gotcha moment for him. Saying how Shanks does X impressive feat while Mihawk does X antifeat. But to this let me refer you to chapter 51 where Mihawk says "Im different from those stupid brutes who'd go all out just to hunt a mere rabbit". Here Mihawk outright says he does not go all out to fight weak people. He uses just as much strength as necessary and handicaps himself as much as he can "Unfortunately, i do not have a blade smaller than this at the moment". Any antifeat relating to Mihawk being stopped by seemingly far weaker people is answered by Mihawks own statements in his introduction. He uses just as much strength as necessary, no more no less. Hes not like Shanks who just beats your ass immediately and goes all out from the get go. Mihawk has canon in-manga explanations for his antifeats while Shanks getting negged by seaking and getting outmaneuvered by a basic mountain bandit with a smoke bomb is just there with 0 explanations, but dw, "ill spare you" as you said.
Another one is Mihawk calculating the difference between WB and himself which is just people having tunnel vision or misreading. Nowhere did Mihawk say "I gotta test how much weaker i am than him". He said he specifically wanted to test how far apart they were which means how much weaker OR stronger he is than WB because he doesn't know WB like that. To take that quote as an automatic assumption that he was referring to him being weaker is just disingenuous. We all know Mihawk is stronger then Oldbeard so idk why this is even brought up.
*#6 This ones about the short video of the 2 one piece youtubers speaking on it.*
BM is not a swordsman because she doesn't use her sword as her main weapon. BM can still fight at full capacity without her sword. If you losing your sword means you are not at your peak then that's what makes you a swordsman. Take a sword away from Zoro and hes not at his peak. Take Law's sword and hes not at his peak. Take Shanks sword and hes not as his peak strength either. BM' strongest attacks all use her devilfruit, not her sword techniques. Another thing they said is that ONLY Mihawks swordplay is stated above shanks which is incorrect due to my first point mentioning the databook. Mihawk has been stated directly above Shanks not just in swordplay but in general. And to end this point off, Oda never said it was JUST his sword skills that gave him the title, that's never been stated in the entirety of One piece. Not in his databooks, not in his vivre cards, not in the manga or even the anime, that's a completely made up statement. It was just a singular statement saying he has better sword skills than Shanks, you're looking far too deep into that.
Shanks is #3 of all time, Mihawk is #2 and Imu is #1. This was mostly just answering the video but ill list some additional reasonings in the reply of this comment that dont have to do with the video to further prove Mihawk is indeed #2 and the WSS.
#1 Stated to wield the strongest blade in existence in both the manga and the databooks, Yoru.
#2 Turned a specifically Supreme Grade blade black. The reason why its important that its specifically a Supreme Grade sword that he turned black is because this is a direct upgrade from Ryuma's feat of turning a Great Grade blade black. And we both know just how highly this fandom considers Ryuma in strength.
#3 Possesses the nickname of "Hawkeyes" referring to his mastery of base observation. For him to be known for his observation to the point of having an nickname on it shows mastery over base observation.
#4 Mihawk also has the epithet of "The Clairvoyant". If you dont know Clairvoyant means to see into the future. This confirms Mihawk has future sight. And due to him and only him specifically having an epithet about it, it means his future sight should be mastered. Mihawk has 2 epithets relating to his obs haki mastery, for this reason i believe he has the #1 best observation in the verse.
#5 Was stated to outright be a more skilled swordsman than Shanks in the manga.
#6 Very strong implications of Mihawk possessing Conquerors Haki. In fishman Island Zoro knew what conquerors haki looked like despite never seeing it from Luffy pretimeskip or from that arc meaning the only time he could've possibly seen it was during his timeskip. And who did he spent his timeskip with? Mihawk. This is just shy of outright confirmation.
#7 Another strong "evidence" point is this proposal. If Zoro unlocked ACoC on his journey to WSS then why wouldn't Mihawk on his Journey to WSS? Its the same kingly ambition which is the basis of getting conquerors haki. Its even stated that Mihawk trained relentlessly towards his dream just like Zoro. There's 0 reason to believe Mihawk doesn't have conquerors.
#8 Mihawk said himself how Shanks is no longer worthy of being his rival and how he is no longer strong enough. This was also stated multiple times in the databooks and even his Vivre card as well with it saying how Mihawk looks forward for someone stronger than shanks to be his rival.
#9 Due to Zoro's dream Mihawk has to be WSS guaranteed. Otherwise it'd invalidate Zoro's dream which has been hyped up for over 2 decades. It makes no sense for Zoro to defeat Mihawk EOS and then still not be WSS. This is extremely strong narrative.
#10 Due to point the databook quote confirming he is the true WSS, every Swordsman's feats automatically upscales Mihawk. Anything you see a swordsman do, Mihawk can do better (generally speaking)
@@xdrago1051 been seeing you in comments every once in a while. I gotta say I really respect your opinions. You give good and factual evidence and I totally agree. To me that deserves a sub.
@@dorisenga4701 Thank you :)
nice take, but i agree with a lot of what u say but I just wanna add one small thing
I'd put Dragon after Imu
@@arongebremedhin9764 Fair enough. I don't got dragon in any ranking for now bc he's a total wildcard. We know he's strong but nothing tells us how strong. He could be #2.
8:23 maybe it's because they know Mihawk won't attack the marines for no reason
i dont get the Joziu point cause Joziu in his Dimond form would be more durable than old whitebeard
I can reason with this. However, the Jozu point was mentioned because Mihawk fans are saying he didn’t use haki but the attack was intended for Whitebeard.
@@ShonenShowdown true, if you read manga Jozu never struggled it was anime only
it was anime only cause oda wont waste panels on showing jozu struglling lol@@zaynali5588
@@zaynali5588Not clear
@@royalfun1031 what do you mean not crear? He in not shown to struggle if its not in manga its not cannon boy
I think the whole one piece community knows Usopp is the strongest pirate
Roger did say the new ERA will surpass them, and the new ERA to roger was a mihawk and shanks, i believe they are stronger but they just have not showed the feats yet, but i believe they will show feats that will make them surpass the old gen as of rn, there not there "yet"
True.
18:25 yes Roger was sick BUT WB also didn’t use his df, which is a huge hold back.
But rob... think about it. If mihawk used some unnamed sword slash + haki in whitebeards general direction and jozu blocked it in his diamond form.. don't you think it should be a feat because jozu would be using armament haki + his devil fruit for full defense against a casual swing of Mihawk's sword
facts
Also! People seem to forget that mihawk’s air slash! That was send to luffy was easily blocked by Daz bones! But than mihawk proceeds to one shot him with the next attack! Because that slash was send directly at luffy who was flesh just like Whitebeard! And Jozu interfered who is Diamond!
@@Khaled68335crazy how we think an attack that’s cutting through ice random pirates and marines and would have to cut part of a ship was meant to only cut WB I understand the general implications but let’s be realistic. Mihawk clearly has stronger attacks but no where has it been demonstrated or explained that any of those attacks could hurt a yonko lvl character. So I think we can all agree Mihawk=
I feel like Mihawk fans think sword skill is all that goes into fights when swordsman fight eachother they don't factor in stuff like speed, haki, and other unseen abilities
I can’t see the WSS losing to someone with a sword makes no sense, Roger and whitebeard have never reached the pinnacle of the blade, rocks maybe we haven’t seen him yet
They dint need to reach the pinnacle of the blade to be stronger
@@luis15317copium mihawk has the strongest blade in history
@anthonyscrew7162 says who? Heavannin much. And other people can be stinger without a black blade wth is wring with you fanboy? Mihawk is strong bit not that strong hence Zoro would never surpass him
Bruh, Mihawk has NEVER used a named attack in the series, including at marineford; he’s literally never put any real effort into a fight because he doesn’t have to. Mihawk is for sure comparable to prime WB & Roger in terms of Strength.
mihawk, the worlds strongest painter
Shanks the World's biggest coward! Gorosei!
I think it would make sense that swordsmanship in one piece has a correlation with Armament Haki … at least in the anime we see that Zoro has to learn armament to control his sword … and we know with snipers in one piece that the best snipers are able to use observation haki … so the difference between a great swords man and haki use can be how well rounded they are … Mihawk can have the best technique and armament haki … while Shanks has the best observation and conquers haki which would make him stronger
Haki in general should be extremely important for a master swordsman. While coa and coc can be used to amp youre ap, dc and overall power, coo is needed to perceive and react quickly and perform youre moves the right time or dodge moves the right time. The same goes for general strenght, spee and endurance. All this thing needs to come together to make someone an truly master swordsman.
Mihawk asked vista to show him his swordsmanship. He was analyzing his attacks. He even said it wasn't from cheap tricks or a devil fruit. He easily overwhelmed his technique with one swing and just continued to throw down parrying all of his swings. He said let's put it on hold, because it wasn't that good. Just my take.
He didn't overwhelm Vista at any point 😂 what fanfic where you reading? He also never said to postpone it cause it wasn't good, why do you mihawk fans twist everything and lie.
You are watching two piece
I’m not gonna lie mihawk is on fraud watch ever since he appeared in marineford. He’s gonna have to show me a little more.
Jozu was a test swing to test the gap. He wanted to see where how much his low level plain swing would make wb sweat. Given diamond is a naturally incredible hard material. And jozu was still struggling a bit. It's fair to say mihawk would destroy jozu if he put more intent behind the attack. I think there is levels to sword haki based attacks. Sword skill and haki make the swordsmen in one piece. I think mihawk's skill with yoru and haki allow him to overwhelm his opponents with accurate strikes. I don't put mihawk above prime wb or Rodgers. Mihawk is an interesting character because he only wants to fight 1v1s with strong opponents. Maybe he didn't even want to put in the work to beat vista. Mihawk is real but not pirate king +.
Mihawk is pretty dumb for that, seriously sending a half ass attack to test WB? It wasn't even worth WBs time he barely cared about it.
@user-fq7kt7py4e Jozu stopping that attack was a big laugh on Mihawk's face imagine Roger sends an attack for WB and it's stopped by Marko I would be shitting on Roger but you Mihawk fans still defend him with no facts just I think this and I think that, and by the way go read the manga Jozu never struggled against Mihawk attack its anime only in the manga there is no struggle.
And WB never say Mihawk as a threat like yonko lvl shit
@@olegariocarrillo1416 @zaynali5588 I'm pretty sure mihawk showed up just bcuz he wanted to show the wg he did smthin and he probably wasn't giving his best into cuz when it was blocked he wasn't shocked one bit which is strange for a person whose main goal is tht he wants a challenging opponent
What Mihawk says is 推し量るだけだ…近く見えるあの男と我々の本当の距離を…/oshihakaru dake da… chikaku mieru, ano otoko to wareware no hontou no kyori wo…
(One thing that’s interesting is that he never actually finishes the phrase- he just trails off a bit and then attacks.)
Anyways, oshihakaru means ‘to conjecture/surmise’ and dake means ‘only’ so the first phrase is “It’s only conjecture.” Chikaku means like ‘closely’ and mieru is ‘to be visible’ or ‘to seem.’ I’m not entirely sure how to best translate this into English but probably something along the lines of “looking closely, (it seems…).” And ano otoko to wareware means ‘that man and us.’
(Wareware is a pretty formal way of saying ‘us’, too, which fits with Mihawk’s formal speech patterns.)
So then there’s hontou no kyori. Hontou means ‘real/true’ and kyori means ‘distance.’ This bit stands out to me mostly because it’s highlighted with the small dots that Oda often uses to indicate emphasis or importance- generally sorta equivalent to bold or italics in English.
So if I translated this, it would be like: “It’s only conjecture… looking closely, the real distance between that man and us…”
TLDR: Yeah, Mihawk knows some shit is up.
@@Gonpachiro-sg1db See what you Mihawk fans do use words like probably wasnt which is headcannon was it stated that Mihawk was not serious when he said him self againts Luffy im serious bro you just cant defend Mihawk with facts just headcannon
2:27 can we call it twitter please.
As a Goathawk fan (who knows he’s stronger than shanks), we don’t claim those idiots. He’s the strongest swordsman in the current world, not of all time 😂
Hes not stronger than shanks tho? Hes more skilled yes but that doesnt make him overall stronger
@@cudo8248he is stronger than shanks
@@noobie1920 Nope
@@cudo8248 yep
Yes he’s stronger thank shanks and I truly in my heart believe that if Zorro is throwing attacks that KAIDO of all people has to dodge then Mihawk can beat and behead him
Bro I love your one piece content so much but I’m anime only. I’m literally playing with fire watching this video trying to catch a laugh
4 minutes in and already bringing out an argument that is easily debunked by zoro using a projectile sword attack in skypiea long before he knew haki. hell cp9 had slashing projectile attacks before they knew haki. that alone completely negates any credibility for the rest of the video. i agree that mihawk ain't top 1 in the verse but seriously using jozu to try and argue mihawk has shit haki is on the same level of stupid as everyone calling him top 1.
What sounds more stupid? I’m genuinely asking. Assuming Mihawk used haki or assuming he didn’t? Because to me, implying Mihawk did not use haki for an attack that was intended for WHITEBEARD, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever bro. Again, you can say I’m stupid but how was that proven that there was no haki in the projectile blast?
@@ShonenShowdown True but then again wb had little to no haki aswell so he probably intented to use no haki in that projectile blast to make it fair. Atleast thats what i think. I 100% agree with you in the video tho.
@@conradthekingofcursesnobody was aware of WBs actual condition at that point, so that doesn't make sense. Not even WBs crew knew what his true condition was like.
@@olegariocarrillo1416 Yea i forgot about that. But then again Mf feats matter little to none now since haki has been fully fleshed out since then.
@@ShonenShowdown haki was not flesh out back then if so why didn't ace use haki to shield him self from or whitebeard from getting stabb
And then Oda prove it why mihawk is the strongest swordman Even Whitebeard said that shanks battle with mihawk is legendary that we never seen Mihawk injury
Mihawk is currently top 1 in my opinion but I understand putting above the legends is ludicrous, it'll be ludicrous to put anybody above then until eos
Putting him**
no the sea king that took shanks arm then mihawk
I have top 30 now
40 all time
@@Shaycormac1234 then shanks must be below him
@@nickalas666 shanks top 10 all time top 2 now
As goofy as it sounds the idea of people turning off haki sounded stupid I know it’s a meme but seeing garp and kuzan train on a ship without haki. The idea could happen but most likely they used haki and Mihawk won
an other thing is that people say mihawk or just "great swordsmen" can use "the breath of all things" and choose what they want to attack. So could Mihawk slash through walls and only hit something that's on the other side? And why did the ground get tore up when Mihawk attacked Whitebeard, why would he WANT to destroy the ground?
why would Mihawk “want to” cut the iceberg at marineford when he was aiming for G2 Preskip Luffy? hmmmmm
Idk why this is even being brought into question because there's the worlds most straight forward example of this in Marineford apart from Jozu. Mihawk throws a slash at Luffy and Mr.1 who's made of steel and not his intended target blocks it with 0 difficulty. Mihawk in the next panel then oneshots Mr.1 this time because he IS his intended target. The breath of all things has been brought up in Alabasta and in Wano meaning its still very much a real thing Oda considers even to this day.
3:30 if the attack was intended for wb why should it cut jozu you just told us the reason yet 10 seconds late you mention the fact that jozu can’t block an attack from wb or roger it’s like your saying roger is not a swordsman if he intended to cut an opponent but another person stood in the way he isn’t cutting that person the attack damage reduced significantly let’s not forget Mohawks attack was nameless and it was barely a swing. And you ,entombed Mohawks haki wasn’t on the level of the old generation because jozu blocked it, you are avoiding the fact it’s. Nameless swing. You mentioned if prime roger was there he would be deadly I disagree prime roger would be the biggest threat there yes but he is definitely not taking out a Akainu aokiji Kizaru sen goku garp the warlords especially mihawk.you mentioned about Mohawks bounty yes it was given after cross guild but in the same text it was referred given to him based on his sheer POWER alone, that’s like saying zoro only has his bounty bcz he’s apart of Luffy s crew which is wrong. Also you can’t compare mihawk and dragon and cross guild and revolutionary army they are different the revolutionary army literally caused WARS BETWEEN NATIONs all the cross guild has done is put stars in marines heads and killed idk a marine captain that’s it they were recently formed unlike revolutionary army who were working constantly even before the great pirate era.
Mihawk having a blade blade alone puts him in the talk with Roger and Whitebeard. It's strange,the community has Ryuma over Roger and Whitebeard but Mihawk who is the only other person with a black blade can't be in the conversation because he doesn't have feats?
Anyway in a few years Oda will show that Mihawk is just under Ryuma level
Whats crazy too is that Mihawk turned a supreme grade blade black. Ryuma did it to a great grade blade. Mihawk literally has a direct feat over the Sword God Ryuma yet Ryuma is considered stronger than Roger while Mihawk aint even Big Meme level to some.
@@xdrago1051seeing as big mom had roger ducking her it makes sense mihawk isn’t on her level
@@yaJA._. lowkey based not even gonna lie. I respect the big mom agenda
all i know is shanks stopped kadio from going to war showed up at marieford and nobody wanted to fight no more but they was still fighting when it was just mihawk (shanks > mihawk)
Also while I agree that Mihawk is probably not beating roger just cause of his title, people also take rogers title of pirate king kinda too seriously. At that time not that many pirates were gunning for the one piece and Wb could’ve done it too as he had the power and oden but that wasn’t his goal
I disagree from what we seen from mihawk and roger. Mihawk is definitely stronger than roger. Roger is highly overrated he hasn’t done anything that convinces you he a step above any yonko level threat. Pirate king is not a level of strength
@@Stunt877 Gonna have to call my local insane asylum, I think I just found one of their escapees.
@abubakarjalloh8665 kaido only mentioned Roger as the top haki user and he fought wb, xebec if you Mihawk fans care about titles than Kaido by his title was the strongest creature even above Mihawk and that Kaido was putting Roger above all so easilly Roger > every character
@@kamixakadio2441Bruh yall say im insane but it’s the truth. From the show itself nothing convinces you roger is a step above everyone else. Roger is above anybody not with a high bounty it’s so obvious. Roger is not the strongest in the show based on feats
@@Stunt877 nah I think his feats of clashing with Whitebeard beating rocks and one shotting people like oden who gave kaido ptsd and fighting garp on multiple occasions can put him above mihawk
Shanks fans wanting to be Zoro victims so bad.
When will these kids understand that character portrayal, relevance and story > titles? This is shounen anime. Portrayal matters more than anything. Mihawk is not stronger than Shanks. Let alone Roger, WB and Rocks
The portrayal from Roger and whitebeard doesn’t put them above everyone else lol
Who's Portrayal are you reading blud? Mihawk has much better Portrayal than Shanks, Mihawk has said he could become a Yonko is he wanted, has stated to be stronger and more skilled with haki/swordsplay than Shanks, go argue with a wall
Shanks portrayal is top 1 in the verse 🥱
Mihawk has better portrayal than shanks through Zoro's dream lmao. Zoro's dream of beating mihawk looks pretty stupid if Shanks (a swordsman) is already stronger than mihawk. Why doesn't Zoro just chase after shanks then.
@@Shaycormac1234 glazing
in marineford i think he was holding back just to show the government he did something...remember he just walked off when he did the attack wasn't shocked in anyway that it was blocked...and question for anyone What classifies a character as a "swordsman? can you call someone a swordsman just cause they use a sword without technique or skill? just using a sword to enhance your attack qualifies you lmk? shouldn't you be a master of the weapon n technique to be labeled a swordsman? i wouldn't consider Rodger a swordsman imo
doesnt the vivi card say that mihawk is looking for an swordsman stronger than shanks? so, wouldnt that mean mihawk >= shanks? yes, the power between them isnt huge but mihawk is still above due to wanting to fight a stronger fighter than shanks himself
vrive also had zoro as the strongest strawhat . that stuff isn’t reliable and it’s not written by oda
@@user-de4zb4kd1yfair. but also other cards are stated mihawk is the strongest swordsman by name n not just by title. also, oda himself drew a cover art of all the swordsman in one piece n shanks was on it. mihawk is known n said to be the strongest swordsman so that automatically has mihawk above him
@@Mr.D1Crashout again. debunked. cause that cover was fan art not even drawn by oda he just commented on it and gave praise to the drawing 😭 also there are cards and vvire cards that say shanks 7 people crew is stronger than the warlords and WG combined which makes no sense.
@@user-de4zb4kd1ybut do u think shanks is an actual swordsman? "as the strongest swordsman in the world he is worth 3.59 billion berries" not only that he stated to be more skilled than shanks. also i just looked up the mihawk looking for an stronger opponent that isnt false or anything of the sort oda made it
@@user-de4zb4kd1y That's not even true bro what? What're you lying for? Zoro's vivre card says hes the strongest strawhat APART from Luffy. Its basically saying Zoro is #2. And second of all Vivre cards are approved by Oda, he reviews them and even writes some himself. They are fully 100% canon.
"Naito: That's right. You can see it in color from head to the toes. In addition. Mr. Oda supervises each and every one of them, and he adds any missing information when checking." (It then shows an example of Oda handwriting one in)
"Kappei: Hey ~~~, Professor Oda is serious. Is there any information for the first time? Naito: There are quite a lot of blood types and birthplaces! I also posted a rough sketch of Mr. Oda's settings. The information is disclosed at the very limit of the line (laughs).
Kappei: Is that all supervised by Professor Oda?
Naito: Yes. All the ones scheduled to be published in the future will be supervised by Mr. Oda. (We plan to publish a total of 32 sheets, 2 sets a month for each set of 16 sheets)"
Lying for an agenda is craaazy ngl
Just gonna say kaido thought of oden, rocks, whitebeard, roger and shanks as people who can defeat him
Oden definitely isn’t beating a prime Kaido though (the Kaido that fought luffy)
@@Yuh_zhimmy yup definitely not beating unless we give oden a few years to grow too like kaido did 🤷♂️
Oden didn't even get to see a Hybrid Kaido he only saw Dragon & Base don't take Kaido's list so seriously.
Maybe …. Like maaaaaaybe ….. they never fought or clashed before ?? Have you thought of that ?
Mihawk wasn't included because Kaido's never fought Mihawk. Im assuming that's your point, that Mihawks not in Kaido's top 5. Everyone in Kaido's top 5 are people hes fought or seen fight. Mihawks not interested in fighting Kaido since hes not a swordsman.
he didnt use haki when jozu(dimond guy) stopped the attack as zoro used projectile attack before he knew haki
Edit- if we take real life reference hawks hunt rats, idk what is left to debate
To me, implying Mihawk did not use haki for an attack that was intended for WHITEBEARD, makes absolutely no sense to me though
@@ShonenShowdownfa, bro aint no way he didnt use haki.
@@ShonenShowdownMihawk said he wanted to test whitebeard strength before that attack. Trust me if he was using haki the author would have said it since in that same chapter he acknowledged luffys haki
@@Stunt877 He said he wanted to see how far apart he was from the worlds strongest
@@DeadPalmMonkeyHe didn’t use haki it probably was just a sword slash. We talking about a man that makes a knife look powerful. If mihawk was using haki the author would have said he was using since in that same chapter he said luffy used conquerors
Well said👏
Aight I used to be a shanks fan but im kind of leaning toward mihawk so I don’t really stand on either side rn but mihawk is definitely not stronger than prime Whitebeard roger and rocks. People are taking that’s title way too far
shanks wipes the floor with mihawk lil bro. haki will always be the deciding factor. haki transcends weapons, devil fruits, etc.and there is no one alive in the verse with greater haki portrayal than shanks. that's what it comes down to
@@pain624I never said either one wins lil bro. And we also know that Mihawk has strong haki as well as he even has a black blade which takes a lot of haki. And they’ve dueled and neither has beaten the other
It depends some people say that Shanks has already surpassed Prime Roger and "if" that's the case Mihawk would be over both Roger and Shanks based on the narrative of Zoro being the WSS.
@@pain624 My man thinks Shanks has a haki Domain Expansion, blud what are you waffiling about, you geninuly are stupid enough to think Zoro will fight Mihawk was "skill" and completely forget what Enma uses yes, Ryou/ACoC, Mihawk..".Zoro Stop Right There" Zoro:..."what?" Mihawk:..."That's enough haki, we have to use SKILL" Zoro: "What is this Skill you are talking about, for the last two years you trained my haki, and not this skill?" Mihawk: "No i was wrong, all these two years i trained you to beat Shanks and not me, i did not teach you skill, therefore all you haki is useless." Is is what you are saying LOL
Wasn't Mihawks bounty stated to be unfrozen after they found out he joined the cross guild? I dont remember them adding on to it. I'm just saying his bounty is back now
He in top 5, fight me
oh HELL NAW HE IS NOT TOP 5!! Just to show some mercy, i will exclude featless characters such as imu and joyboy.
1. Ryuma prime
2. Roger prime
3. Whitebeard prime
4. Garp prime
5. Sengoku prime
Dont get me wrong, mihawk is in my top 3 favorite one piece characters, but you are a glazing a bit too hard
@@HeavenlyMythic
He probably meant currently not all time
Oh currently then yeah hes probably in top 5, still kinda debatable if you include featless characters like imu but thats more reasonable
@@HeavenlyMythicryuma ??Mihawk is stronger than him
I’ve had a question in my mind for a very long time, I haven’t seen anyone ask this
Who is Mihawks teacher…
Driphawk was not even trying in marineford
Hey What do you think ab the suggestion of the diamond feat
Most on Twitter are pulling the suggestion where no Swordsman, not even Roger was able to cut diamond
Pointing out that the jozu feat is now hiding the true destruction of the sword slash
Driphawk the G.O.A.T
Roger using a regular sword slash or a weak named sword attack would he able to be stopped by jozu too. Divine departure didnt one shot oden (well oden is rlly strong but divine departure should be one of his mid-strong attacks(
Yeah its not even just any haki but acoc and a named attack.