Paul, thanks for the newer walkthrough of this vessel. Some questions/comments: 1. Have you considered Carbon Fiber for poles vs painted fiberglass? 2. For the A/C - Is your current 5000 BTU A/C 12/24/48 VDC or must the inverter be on and it runs from AC? If the latter, please look at the Malbru DC units (or comparable DC A/C units. I'm pretty sure their units are more efficient and if you're currently running off inverter, haven DC unit(s) would be better. 3. Have you considered fresh-water anchor looker rinse/hose? 4. Please consider running proper gauge wiring to the from cabin for all the USB posts, as your video seems to show the older USB-A jacks and many are now moved to USB-C and more importantly USB-C with PD (Power Delivery) where these jacks can output 100 watts of power (that would require like near 10 amps @ 12 VDC for each jack). 5. Since you're shipping these in containers, could the cost be reduced by selling these WITHOUT batteries (but wired for users to drop in their own)? 6. The suede ceiling I'm sure is "pretty", but the upkeep, staining, marks and such. Have you considered a different material ? I've seen a few videos of the motor displays when you're sailing, but not seen regen numbers while sailing. Lastly, as solar panels are more efficient now, have you looked to see if there are panels that are the same or close in size that output more now than the original 400 watt per panel. I'm thinking panel efficiency has gotten better to the point where you could get 450 or even 500 each now. Thanks and look forward to stepping on one of these newer hull #'s in the near future and talking to you or someone on your team.
There is, models after Hull 003 have room for two medium sized people I'd say. 004 is loaded with options and for sale in Florida right now if interested and you don't want to wait for it to be built and shipped.
Yup - no stairs also. Miami boat show I tried out the 30’ Smart Cat. Narrow passageways and tiny steps. Made my back and knees hurt trying to explore it at the docks. Couldn’t imagine doing that while underway.
Yeah, new catamaran prices are insane. Check out the Smart Cat. Still almost 300K after it’s shipped and outfitted. It uses the tiny hulls for bedrooms and doesn’t fit in a mono slip also, so the monthly cost is hundreds more. But yeah, a used cat is the way to go if you can afford the docking fees. Also, a Gemini doesn’t fill up its fuel tank and run the AC all day off solar power. :D
Unfortunately, no. EPropulsaion requires their expensive batteries to enable regen under sail, and it requires speeds you'd probably rarely see in the HopYacht anyway. 4 Days of good sun, and you're pretty much fully charged anyways, assuming you motored all day at a modest speed to run it down.
The head sale is larger than the total of my Hunter 290’s sales. But yeah, she’s not a performance cruiser. The name tells you everything you need to know. She’s meant to hop between islands, not cross oceans or win races. :D
Great couples boat with “occasional” guest. I would opt out electric engines if going for longer distance channel cruise like the great loop and stern brackets for a couple 10hp outboards…in front of the ‘beach’ seems plenty of room for a 20 gal fuel tank for estimate of about 200 miles at 6-8 kts, probably further as a motorsalier?
I mean, it’ll do 50+ miles on batteries alone now. Small generator and 20 gallons of gas would put it MUCH further for like $300 invested, while giving you the option to do weekend silent cruises for free on solar alone.
I re-read the brochure and at 6 kts there is only 2.5 hours of electricity or at 2.5 kts for about 6 hours both only about 15 miles. The generator will need to be running full time for 8-9 hours at 6 kts for about 8 gallons of fuel. That’s the same as 2 small outboard engines. I’m not including motorsailing or the gas input from the solar panels. The unusual sail rig seems suited for reaching or running not pointing-a catamaran weakness anyway. My point is motor capability in a catamaran is very important. The limited range almost makes the hop a day sailor or restricted by weather windows for favorable conditions/breezes
@TY-js9lk the trick is to slow down. It takes exponentially more energy to go even slightly faster. At 5 knots you can cruise for almost 10 hours. 6 knots is pretty much full throttle, and 2.5 hours. They did some videos of their travels, and with a little wind and just 1000 watts of power (solar was generating more than that), they were going 4-5 knots. It’s not a boat for someone in a hurry. Unless you put a 2kW Honda generator on the transom. Hah
@TY-js9lk oh, I believe they said it actually points pretty well, for a cat. But again, the idea is a casual, comfortable, easy to accomplish, sail/motorsail.
@TY-js9lk I’m not sure what brochure you’re looking at? From their web page: “Range with full charge At full throttle - 6.9 knots (12 000W) - 2.4 hours At a cruising speed of 4.2 knots (2 500W), the range will increase significantly to over 8 hours. This excludes input from solar panels during motor run times.”
So, the packs weigh a lot, and there’s already water tanks and other heavy things in the hulls. The entire things has been engineered for comfort, stability and safety. There is an option to buy a third pack in, I think it’s somewhere in the aft, and maintain all the balances.
@jpmackin unfortunately, no. South Africa, under a large catamaran builder. Mine arrives in Miami next week however. Doctor said I can’t sail along the coast to get it up to DC, so mine is up for sale, brand new. HopYacht USA in Miami is scheduling test sails on it.
Needs to have a real WALK AROUND bed. Worshipping the size of the common Queen bed is less important, regardless of what the marketing guys say. IMHO….
While I agree "walk around" is a stretch, it's more like shuffle around. I'm sure if they took 1' off the sides so you could barely walk around it, it would be more like a twin bed. They're really trying to maximize space, the cat fits in a monohull slip after all. I am curious, can a normal queen size mattress fit in there? I'll have to measure it if I bring it up the ICW a few hundred miles this winter. Could be really convenient to swap with a conventional mattress, my wife's back hates most mattresses, could actually get one she likes put in.
I do not like at all that the batteries have a gps tracker on them. They do that so if you don't make your payments on the boat, they can remotely shut your boat off. Then come repo it. No thanks I'll stick to good old fossil fuel engines. Same goes for electric cars. They will probably start doing this stuff to gas engine vehicles soon too. All thanks to Klaus Schwab and the WEF.
It’s meant to detect cell imbalances and any possible pack problems, before they becomes serious. But you can unplug the antennas and they won’t monitor its health anymore if you want.
@@richr909 they actually want to charge for the monitoring service now I believe. So, it’s just inactive if you don’t want it. It would be nice to know if a BMS is failing or something before heading off on a coastal cruise. But I’ll risk it and just assume it’s good until I see I red light. Skipping monitoring on mine.
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This is so cool, ideal for the intracoastal or the TN river, great !
Soft lockers look like a great idea!
Yeah, great use of space for such a little cat!
Great video with Paul enthusiastic as aleays😀👍⛵️
Paul, thanks for the newer walkthrough of this vessel. Some questions/comments:
1. Have you considered Carbon Fiber for poles vs painted fiberglass?
2. For the A/C - Is your current 5000 BTU A/C 12/24/48 VDC or must the inverter be on and it runs from AC? If the latter, please look at the Malbru DC units (or comparable DC A/C units. I'm pretty sure their units are more efficient and if you're currently running off inverter, haven DC unit(s) would be better.
3. Have you considered fresh-water anchor looker rinse/hose?
4. Please consider running proper gauge wiring to the from cabin for all the USB posts, as your video seems to show the older USB-A jacks and many are now moved to USB-C and more importantly USB-C with PD (Power Delivery) where these jacks can output 100 watts of power (that would require like near 10 amps @ 12 VDC for each jack).
5. Since you're shipping these in containers, could the cost be reduced by selling these WITHOUT batteries (but wired for users to drop in their own)?
6. The suede ceiling I'm sure is "pretty", but the upkeep, staining, marks and such. Have you considered a different material ?
I've seen a few videos of the motor displays when you're sailing, but not seen regen numbers while sailing.
Lastly, as solar panels are more efficient now, have you looked to see if there are panels that are the same or close in size that output more now than the original 400 watt per panel. I'm thinking panel efficiency has gotten better to the point where you could get 450 or even 500 each now.
Thanks and look forward to stepping on one of these newer hull #'s in the near future and talking to you or someone on your team.
Wow man! You can tell they spent a lot of time designing this thing. Super impressive. When are you sailing to New Zealand??
They actually had a famous naval engineer team design it - Du Toit Yacht Design. But yeah, Paul and Mary-Clare are all in on the project!
Is there a back rest on the fly bridge? Just saw it as a bench seat
There is, models after Hull 003 have room for two medium sized people I'd say.
004 is loaded with options and for sale in Florida right now if interested and you don't want to wait for it to be built and shipped.
@@ZeroFun thx
Now for the Price??
300k delivered. There’s one for sale in Florida, loaded, new. Owner had health issues before it arrived. Probably would consider any offer.
Very interesting for coastal or lake sailing . Nice for a couple downsizing when the sails get too heavy . 2 thumbs up
Yup - no stairs also. Miami boat show I tried out the 30’ Smart Cat. Narrow passageways and tiny steps. Made my back and knees hurt trying to explore it at the docks.
Couldn’t imagine doing that while underway.
The price turned me off . Get a Gemini 105 for under 100 G . I burn very little Diesel in my mono haul . Yet I do like the electric part
Yeah, new catamaran prices are insane. Check out the Smart Cat. Still almost 300K after it’s shipped and outfitted. It uses the tiny hulls for bedrooms and doesn’t fit in a mono slip also, so the monthly cost is hundreds more.
But yeah, a used cat is the way to go if you can afford the docking fees. Also, a Gemini doesn’t fill up its fuel tank and run the AC all day off solar power. :D
Regen on the props?
Unfortunately, no. EPropulsaion requires their expensive batteries to enable regen under sail, and it requires speeds you'd probably rarely see in the HopYacht anyway.
4 Days of good sun, and you're pretty much fully charged anyways, assuming you motored all day at a modest speed to run it down.
Yes, hybrid system could work, too.
Nice project! But it would've been nice to have the minimum detail about the ignored sailing and performance specs. Makes you wonder...
The head sale is larger than the total of my Hunter 290’s sales. But yeah, she’s not a performance cruiser. The name tells you everything you need to know. She’s meant to hop between islands, not cross oceans or win races. :D
Great couples boat with “occasional” guest. I would opt out electric engines if going for longer distance channel cruise like the great loop and stern brackets for a couple 10hp outboards…in front of the ‘beach’ seems plenty of room for a 20 gal fuel tank for estimate of about 200 miles at 6-8 kts, probably further as a motorsalier?
I mean, it’ll do 50+ miles on batteries alone now. Small generator and 20 gallons of gas would put it MUCH further for like $300 invested, while giving you the option to do weekend silent cruises for free on solar alone.
I re-read the brochure and at 6 kts there is only 2.5 hours of electricity or at 2.5 kts for about 6 hours both only about 15 miles. The generator will need to be running full time for 8-9 hours at 6 kts for about 8 gallons of fuel. That’s the same as 2 small outboard engines. I’m not including motorsailing or the gas input from the solar panels. The unusual sail rig seems suited for reaching or running not pointing-a catamaran weakness anyway. My point is motor capability in a catamaran is very important. The limited range almost makes the hop a day sailor or restricted by weather windows for favorable conditions/breezes
@TY-js9lk the trick is to slow down. It takes exponentially more energy to go even slightly faster. At 5 knots you can cruise for almost 10 hours. 6 knots is pretty much full throttle, and 2.5 hours.
They did some videos of their travels, and with a little wind and just 1000 watts of power (solar was generating more than that), they were going 4-5 knots.
It’s not a boat for someone in a hurry. Unless you put a 2kW Honda generator on the transom. Hah
@TY-js9lk oh, I believe they said it actually points pretty well, for a cat. But again, the idea is a casual, comfortable, easy to accomplish, sail/motorsail.
@TY-js9lk I’m not sure what brochure you’re looking at? From their web page:
“Range with full charge
At full throttle - 6.9 knots (12 000W) - 2.4 hours
At a cruising speed of 4.2 knots (2 500W), the range will increase significantly to over 8 hours.
This excludes input from solar panels during motor run times.”
Shocking they did not put extra battery packs along the hidden storage locker on the starboard side walkway…
So, the packs weigh a lot, and there’s already water tanks and other heavy things in the hulls.
The entire things has been engineered for comfort, stability and safety. There is an option to buy a third pack in, I think it’s somewhere in the aft, and maintain all the balances.
Great, thank you. Any chance building in USA?
@jpmackin unfortunately, no. South Africa, under a large catamaran builder.
Mine arrives in Miami next week however. Doctor said I can’t sail along the coast to get it up to DC, so mine is up for sale, brand new.
HopYacht USA in Miami is scheduling test sails on it.
4,8 knots cruising speed. My hobie sea kayak is going at that speed just with peddling power.
Sounds exhausting. Let the sun push you while you nap in the shade. Or, you know, it is a sail boat, super easy to roll out the giant furling sail.
@@ZeroFun (there is always the option of the furling sail and/or the electric motor when you get lazy indeed)
Needs to have a real WALK AROUND bed. Worshipping the size of the common Queen bed is less important, regardless of what the marketing guys say. IMHO….
While I agree "walk around" is a stretch, it's more like shuffle around. I'm sure if they took 1' off the sides so you could barely walk around it, it would be more like a twin bed. They're really trying to maximize space, the cat fits in a monohull slip after all.
I am curious, can a normal queen size mattress fit in there? I'll have to measure it if I bring it up the ICW a few hundred miles this winter. Could be really convenient to swap with a conventional mattress, my wife's back hates most mattresses, could actually get one she likes put in.
Large windows not for big seas.
Rated for coastal cruising, inland rivers and lakes. Yup. Not meant for crossing oceans. Island hopping with good weather though - hence the name.
와 한국에 있는 저는 저 배를 항해해서 가지고 올 수는 없겠네요. 충분히 태평양을 항해할 수 있을 꺼라 생각했는데
@@YYY-e2c4h you can take it anywhere. It fits in two containers. Ship it anywhere in the world!
everything about this boat is great but I don't like it at all.
Hahaha. What don’t you like?
I do not like at all that the batteries have a gps tracker on them. They do that so if you don't make your payments on the boat, they can remotely shut your boat off. Then come repo it. No thanks I'll stick to good old fossil fuel engines. Same goes for electric cars. They will probably start doing this stuff to gas engine vehicles soon too. All thanks to Klaus Schwab and the WEF.
But they will say that they track the batteries in the interest of safety if you are ever in distress.
It’s meant to detect cell imbalances and any possible pack problems, before they becomes serious. But you can unplug the antennas and they won’t monitor its health anymore if you want.
@@ZeroFun Yeah I know what they are meant to be used for. But I'm guessing it voids the warranty immediately if you remove those antennas right??
@@richr909 they actually want to charge for the monitoring service now I believe. So, it’s just inactive if you don’t want it.
It would be nice to know if a BMS is failing or something before heading off on a coastal cruise. But I’ll risk it and just assume it’s good until I see I red light. Skipping monitoring on mine.
@@richr909did your mother consume all the beer in the village while she was pregnant with you or at you just naturally on the spectrum?