funfact to the R-23/24/27t's: these are medium rage heatseekers that are meant to be used in a ripple-fire. Meaning: You're supposed to fire 2 of the missiles: 1 radar and 1 heater (with a wingman for the older ones). The reason is that if a jet gets the warning about the radar-missile they are supposed to go defensive, wich turns their rear more towards the missile, thus "extending" the range of the heatseeker. This tactic doesn't work in WT though because flares and chaff are linked by default.
@@reinni2968 I just did a quick check and apparently in WT the R-3S has a 0.5Km lower lock-on range (4Km vs 3.5Km) and ~1Km maximum range in rear-aspect (10Km vs 9). Both are practically identical as far as gameplay goes and both have the same 10G overload, but yes, the R-3S is ever so slightly inferior. Same goes for the PL-2, it's a copypaste of the R-3S in game.
I'd say the PL-5B or Magic 1 are both better rear aspect missiles than the R-60, at least in game. Same pull or even better, and far better range and flare resistance.
The Firestreaks are actually good when used with the Gloster Javelin. It’s at such a low BR for missiles that many targets at tier or in a downtier don’t have any flares. Go rear aspect and it’ll pull surprisingly well. The Javelin will struggle in an up tier tho.
aim9 bs are far from the worst. there actually quite usable. not saying there perfect... but theres a reason every nation has an aim9b or a reversed engineered version of aim9b... cause it was the first air to air missile that actually worked...
R-73s on Su25BM seem to be worse than R-73s on other aircraft. Sure, yeah, you don't get HMD or high enough speed to give them inertia at launch but they don't seem to pull half as hard and they get 1 flared all the time no matter the aspect or if enemy cut afterburner. I think those, being first R-73 in game, were experimental for Gaijin and they artificially nerfed them so people don't cry out about them, then just forgot they exist and left them gimped.
no no no no. AIM-9B might be the first missile you get access to, but i will stand on the hill that AIM-7Cs the F3H is worse. (remembered this is IR version, which would explain why nords/Rb05s aren't here, but my point stands)
If I remember it had some 1.2 - 1.8, maybe 2km max range, pulled few Gs and I don't remember how good the seeker was, I think it was the same on B as was on A but B got better motor.
wait... he said ir version. does that mean theres goin to be a radar missile version? and if yes try the S.O.4050 Vautour IIN because it gets a sarh missile at 8.3
@@trepkas just get a pc upgrade dude, vids look scuffed, its ps5 recording without any special render right? 1440p legit looks like something from in between hd ready and hd tv´s. game looks a lot better too then.
Technically everyone will say red tops. And you should because they are better than the fire streak. Truth be told: You have more odds of killing by banzaicharging the enemy aircraft because from personal experience British IR missiles will miss a straight flying non flaring aircraft from 1km very consistently.
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funfact to the R-23/24/27t's: these are medium rage heatseekers that are meant to be used in a ripple-fire. Meaning: You're supposed to fire 2 of the missiles: 1 radar and 1 heater (with a wingman for the older ones). The reason is that if a jet gets the warning about the radar-missile they are supposed to go defensive, wich turns their rear more towards the missile, thus "extending" the range of the heatseeker. This tactic doesn't work in WT though because flares and chaff are linked by default.
not anymore
Showing the enemy your ass doesnt extend the range of the ir missiles unless youre just talking about locking and not the actual range
@@peerschulz2029 didnt you know? Chaff and flares are now seperate
shift + D that separates the chaff and flare
the R-3S is worse than the aim-9b btw
How so?
@@reinni2968i think its harder to get a lock with it
@@reinni2968 I just did a quick check and apparently in WT the R-3S has a 0.5Km lower lock-on range (4Km vs 3.5Km) and ~1Km maximum range in rear-aspect (10Km vs 9). Both are practically identical as far as gameplay goes and both have the same 10G overload, but yes, the R-3S is ever so slightly inferior.
Same goes for the PL-2, it's a copypaste of the R-3S in game.
nords are worse
Under 0.75 meters it is able to not see flares
The radar version of this is gonna go crazy, since first one is on the swift with 2gs of pull
*laser
The first radar missile is on the french vautour 2
@@Meap2114 mmm in terms of br, yes, but aim7c was made earlier.
@@reinni2968I can be. It can track stuff that is locked on in the radar gun sight.
Fireflash is laser guided
I'd say the PL-5B or Magic 1 are both better rear aspect missiles than the R-60, at least in game. Same pull or even better, and far better range and flare resistance.
Trep in the morning is always a vibe
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its almost night for me
he forgot the aim 9d
09:55 ow nah💀
This video is def gonna be a good one
Trep,do you use kbm or controller and if so please make a setting and binds video
i use kbm
Bros experiencing British missiles nerf 😂
been watching u for a while now and still enjoy ur vids keep em coming mang
16:06 "We have the piranas" 😭😭😭 Say "Piranha" bro, pls🥺🙏🏻
The Firestreaks are actually good when used with the Gloster Javelin. It’s at such a low BR for missiles that many targets at tier or in a downtier don’t have any flares. Go rear aspect and it’ll pull surprisingly well. The Javelin will struggle in an up tier tho.
Trepkas idk how but you manage to post a video every time when I'm bored so I have what to watch.
aim9 bs are far from the worst. there actually quite usable. not saying there perfect... but theres a reason every nation has an aim9b or a reversed engineered version of aim9b... cause it was the first air to air missile that actually worked...
I kind of undermestimated some of the missiles. (We love you trep, even through your undermestimation)
R-73s on Su25BM seem to be worse than R-73s on other aircraft. Sure, yeah, you don't get HMD or high enough speed to give them inertia at launch but they don't seem to pull half as hard and they get 1 flared all the time no matter the aspect or if enemy cut afterburner.
I think those, being first R-73 in game, were experimental for Gaijin and they artificially nerfed them so people don't cry out about them, then just forgot they exist and left them gimped.
Remember when the AAM-3s had 42Gs of pull then gaijin said no you get a copy paste 9m.
5:44 The aim-9h's are actually able to pull 20gs for a second or less
12:28 You highlighted it in the video, but the flares let the missile require on the F4 (mostly from the F4 hot engines)
The Python 3 on Japan squadron F-5E FCU are legit
no no no no. AIM-9B might be the first missile you get access to, but i will stand on the hill that AIM-7Cs the F3H is worse. (remembered this is IR version, which would explain why nords/Rb05s aren't here, but my point stands)
its just redundant
bro forgot the worst missile which only swift f 7 has
it's not a missle - it's literally a flying rocket fork)
@@user-ki4ms5jg7r frrr
treppy you forgot the aim 9js on the hunter f58 in the german tech tree. they have a dif name
Looking for this comment
Gotta get that Swiss representation in there
16:44 Brazil mentioned !!!!
I love the Red top missiles they honestly are pretty good on the Sea Vixen
w content
2:22 DORITO
im pissed i didnt wake up 37 minutes early to watch this
so what i can gather from this is every missle good, some missile just better
It's amazing how many spam flares, but no one remembers to remove the afterburner
"the smokeless and irccm version of the rb74 like the aim9l and aim9m" curious.. wonder if they could be the same missile
perhaps maybe its a theory atleast
crazy
What is your settings for like your game quality and picture settings?
R-60 is 30g???? Sure as hell never felt like it
id rather have an aim9b over the dumpster fire that is the firestreak. shit has zero range.
Trep do you play on ps5 or pc????
minute 9:15, it was me, that was nasty, cool video btw!
You could also call this video “killing f4s comp”
In reel magic 2 is 50 g
Wassup trep daddy
hey trep what app u use to edit ur videos, put ghoofy souns etc
The first 5 missile were aim 9 b but from diffrent nations (first btw)
U know the missiles your using are bad when a star fighter is out turning them 💀
daddy treppy is back
when the missile tracks contrails not planes
You forgot the MCLOS missiles
at 2:30 my kids looked at me funny and i recognised the sond from those hey bear baby sensory vids
if aim9b is likely a improvement of the aim9a, imagine how crap the aim9a is
If I remember it had some 1.2 - 1.8, maybe 2km max range, pulled few Gs and I don't remember how good the seeker was, I think it was the same on B as was on A but B got better motor.
You forgot about the SAAM (I think that's the name) from the prem GB harrier. Those are terrible
The worse goes the German aim9b then the aim9b then the r3s then the shafir then the pl2
you forgot about the swingfire or something like this with 2g max
arent there 50G rockets? oh wait, its IR version, nvm
Magic 2 missile is the best heat seeking missile ong
The fgw2 is a Aim-9b with metter seeker
My a10 has 9ls but the Are super flare hungry
CAN U MAKE A VID ON THE NEW AMX PLS......
love how he just used the aim9b for 30% of the video
You forgot the srram
Hey bear music lol
6:32 bruh
wait... he said ir version.
does that mean theres goin to be a radar missile version?
and if yes try the S.O.4050 Vautour IIN
because it gets a sarh missile at 8.3
Did I somehow miss the R-60MK in the 25G section? Actually what 25G section there's none the R-60MK is missing Sir
MK is just export version of M as far as I know.
did you alreay try it with bombs?
Dam bro listened to my comment fire TH-camr
8:55 he is casually just killing people without skill
Bro forgot about the Swift F-7s 2G missile (I forgot its name)
It got buffed to 10g now :(
And it’s called the fireflash
its radar beaming so its not ir lol
undermestimate
15:23 "whoop"
make now the radar version with the Fireflash and R551
Do top tier jets tier list
NGL magic 2 on top
berry gucci
57 seconds ago is coomifying
Add the R-60MK is very bad...
38 minutes ago I have to go to sleep
Bro er du dansker?🇩🇰🇩🇰
poor aim9c, forgotten
MICA 50G ?
Bro for me a controller thing showed up next to your name in game
im on ps5
@@trepkas oh that makes since. We should play war thunder together
Bro forgot the r60mk lol
the mk is just the export version of the m iirc
Ngl I learned a lot
when did the R73 move from 50G to 40G?
It was never 50g.
What’s the game
Where was the R60MK?
r3s i worse than aim 9 b
Make a radar version pls
alrd wokring on it :)
daddy trep i edge to ur vids
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Uh the red top is he worst missile
Yesss I commented
11:54 are you slovak ?
where are the 50g missle r-77?
thats active RADAR homing, hes only doing ir missiles in this vid
Hi Trep
hello
@@trepkas have a great weekend!
Where did you get the camo on f16aj bc i dont have that in the camo's
got it in a crate i think
this guy makes the best war thunder content
trep do u play on controller
no keyboard on a ps5
@@trepkas just get a pc upgrade dude, vids look scuffed, its ps5 recording without any special render right? 1440p legit looks like something from in between hd ready and hd tv´s. game looks a lot better too then.
Guys, should I pick firestreak or Red Top for my Sea Vixen in the current update?
Technically everyone will say red tops. And you should because they are better than the fire streak. Truth be told: You have more odds of killing by banzaicharging the enemy aircraft because from personal experience British IR missiles will miss a straight flying non flaring aircraft from 1km very consistently.
@@Johnny_200 thanks for the information budd!
@@Johnny_200 red top previously outpulled the firestreak. I don't know why they fixed the G overload of the Red Top
U forgot the aim9j
Aim 9p is the same as 9j apart from radar slaving
I’m top 5 finally 😂😂😂
38 seconds target
Aim 54?
its a radar missile :)
Aim 9c ?
radar