Holy Paladin 10.1 PvE BEGINNER GUIDE | Part 1: CORE ROTATION | WoW DRAGONFLIGHT 10.0.7 SEASONS 1 & 2

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  • Check out the rest of the beginner guide series:
    Part 2 - M+: • Holy Paladin 10.1 PvE ...
    Part 3 - Raiding: • Holy Paladin 10.1 PvE ...
    00:00 INTRO
    00:30 RESOURCES
    01:01 GENERATORS
    04:11 SPENDERS
    05:52 WHEN TO USE SPENDERS
    07:12 JUDGMENT & CONSECRATION
    08:56 CASTING
    10:49 WINGS
    11:36 PRACTICAL EXAMPLE
    16:30 OUTRO
    Thank you very much for watching. If you enjoyed it and/or found it useful, please consider the following links:
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    About me:
    Hey there! I'm 26 y.o. and from Spain. I have been playing Hpala since Antorus, and getting CE as a healer ever since ToS.
    I am currently pursuing a masters degree in Computer Science at UPV and pretty much work on that "full time".
    You can find my logs at : www.warcraftlogs.com/characte...
    I also push keys as Hpala: raider.io/characters/eu/draen...
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  • @tinykass
    @tinykass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the best guide for holy pally I’ve found all day! Thank you so much 🖤🖤

  • @Gabby-zp8jx
    @Gabby-zp8jx ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. This video has been a very big help.

  • @patriciojimenezbarros6824
    @patriciojimenezbarros6824 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, thank you very much! I came from a Monk in BfA and Shadowlands, playing melee healers is so fun! Now I'm playing Holy paladin in Dragonflight. Best regards from Chile!

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks for watching! glad you enjoyed it :)

  • @EmbracetheTrace
    @EmbracetheTrace 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clear concise and helpful thanks!

  • @eliezerviloriocruz7339
    @eliezerviloriocruz7339 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    oh si, gracias se agradeces mucho todo

  • @RoachasBJJ
    @RoachasBJJ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im starting to play a holy pala, i just spammed the heals no ideas how it really worked so, thanks now im healing while using attack, unreal! ill start looking into the pvp side as ill be using that mainly
    thanks

  • @JWFreeman
    @JWFreeman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm main restro druid, but I'm curious and I'm going to start healing with holy paladin. I will follow your guides.

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope you find them useful :)

  • @TyboGames
    @TyboGames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video, thanks man

  • @ScytheNoire
    @ScytheNoire 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This confused the hell out of me, as someone who played Holy Paladin healer back in TBC and Wrath raiding.
    Things have changed so much I don't even recognize and understand how healing is now.

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Believe it or not this is already outdated by a country mile

  • @taijutenWoW
    @taijutenWoW ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For the next video, if you're not already planning to say it:
    I struggle to know whether to WoG or LoD when using Beacon of Virtue.
    It feels like theoretically in AoE healing scenarios (e.g. Hyrja, Boss 2+3 in CoS) LoD makes more sense, but I only really see paladins use WoG with BoV

    • @user-rm9oi2jd8r
      @user-rm9oi2jd8r ปีที่แล้ว

      wog much more efficient if BoV is out because AoE heals and ST heals scale different for beacons. LoD is better for DPS because it could proc twice and thus could proc wings twice.

    • @paddy7154
      @paddy7154 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try to time your empyrean legacy buff with the 20% more powerfull wog in concrete at bosses like hyrja.
      1. Concrete
      2. Judgement
      3. BoV
      4. WoG
      Then you can use divine toll to get 5 hp back and wog again in BoV window

  • @Andrea-lj4jg
    @Andrea-lj4jg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, what do you think of the old legion trick of using beacon of virtue right after casting holy light, you think is still worth using in certain circumstances?
    I agree that casting is not nearly as efficient as it used to be, but I still find It useful on fight with high burst aoe like advisor meladrus: I start casting holy light 1 second before slicing maelstrom begins, it does a large amount of aoe healing and since it's highly likely that infusion of light is up it also generates two holy power, then I use word of glory with 2-3 stacks of unending light.

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup, very much a good practice, specially to minmax the timing of virtue and squeeze in some extra healing

  • @tommythecat10
    @tommythecat10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a vet resto druid trying to learn holy pala and this vid really helped!
    One part that I still struggle with is when big healing is required and divine toll is on CD. I beacon, LoD, holy shock, WoG for some big burst, but then if the damage continues I feel pretty screwed - now I'm at 0 holy power, holy shock is on cooldown, and I end up crusader striking twice while my party is dying around me which feels awful. Am I missing something?

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you are able to top up the party during the beacon window then that should usually be enough to survive until the beacons come around. But ofc this is going to change drastically depending on what scenario we are talking about and most times you will just have to make do with whatever you can scrap until then. That is the nature of holy paladin right now.

    • @CraftDoorable
      @CraftDoorable ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t use all your CDs together so you don’t run into these, usually wings are enough and beacon+DT is enough, also pool up to 5 holy power before high damage phases so you dont have to cast alot of generators

  • @seanlovesbrentwood
    @seanlovesbrentwood ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to know how you like to spend your infusion of light procs in mythic plus or raid. I feel like I'm ignoring my procs most of the time and I dont think this is the best practice.

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Just ignore them. They are useless unless under very specific conditions. In raids never use HL or FoL unless smh you are stuck far and have a spare gcd. In m+ with Divine Favor you do want to use HL but otherwise never cast anything.

  • @Faayde
    @Faayde ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Judgement gains holy power

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว

      not for holy

    • @cbak6815
      @cbak6815 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is one thing I have never understood. Why would they not let judgement give you HP?

    • @jacoblionel4829
      @jacoblionel4829 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@cbak6815Learing holy. This blew my mind after doing prot ret for xpacs.

  • @bobbythememe
    @bobbythememe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d love to learn about avenging crusader and if that could fit into an m+ build 👀 I really like the class fantasy of it haha I am the ret paladin now. Any thoughts?

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว

      AC was used in m+ a lot before the 10.0.7 changes. Not so much now since it's weaker vs normal wings both in damage and healing.

    • @bobbythememe
      @bobbythememe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MidwayPaladin Dang, missed my time. Thank you king

  • @MundiJournals
    @MundiJournals ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for these. How do you heal ranged players in the raid or mythic + ? These players are too far away to benefit from the melee heals.

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว

      in raids you can always turn your camera around if you know the ranged need prio heals. Otherwise you don't really focus on healing ranged players. In m+ you don't really use LoD much so it's ok. The few times you use it is when you know you will be able to hit most players anyways (ranged included)

  • @dylnfstr
    @dylnfstr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been maining my pally this xpac and have been tanking 99% of the time. But there's times where my GL wants to tank on his pally so I need to get better at holy because NOBODY wants to heal anymore so finding healers for M+ is such a pain.

  • @mahony3186
    @mahony3186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm trying to get into all healers and Paladin feels nice because you can instant top players at all times, the healing is very good. The big reason, why Holy Paladin is a little bit of a downer for me is the Mana management. I played all healers except monk and with Pala I always go oom very very fast and the reason is the Holy Shock spam. It also doesn't feel good to see how low the dps output looks when you just spammed everything for damage. I think it would feel much better if the mana cost would be lowered and the dps scaling would get a buff.

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว

      yup. mana and dps have been nerfed several times for hpala over time and now we are suffering from it. it is what it is.

    • @kizzagaming6523
      @kizzagaming6523 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MidwayPaladin DPS on mine felt really bad below 410~ But the annulet with dps gems can really help early on & once you have gear and decent haste/vers everything kind of comes together well. You could always cheese it and just spam keys on a prot pally and do 20's in 400 ilvl ;O and swap once u have gear.

  • @karffit2907
    @karffit2907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video, i wish there was a talent that modifies how infusion of light works since it doesn't really fit in the playstyle anymore.
    Besides even if we were caster, infusion of light is pretty boring as it is

  • @JohnLynch0
    @JohnLynch0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you deal with the more intense M+ times? 3rd Boss in NO. Herjia in HOV (storm) and the Arcane dude in AA? Thanks btw. I play Mistweaver, Shaman and Evoker but I'm learning Holy Paladin and Disc Priest now. Sorry if these are annoying!

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i have a video coming up in 40 minutes covering exactly that ;)

    • @JohnLynch0
      @JohnLynch0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MidwayPaladin Ill check it out!

  • @rowlandhudson1511
    @rowlandhudson1511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started a pally last week got to 60. But I’m struggling healing dungeons. Now I’m afraid too.

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hope my videos help

    • @sarevokanchev9996
      @sarevokanchev9996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is merely one method to playing a hpally. There is a caster build as well. I'm not sure on the efficacy vs Midway's build but there are options to fit your playstyle. For now, I play a caster build because I hope to see a rework for Avenging Crusader (AC). AC build focuses more on Crit & haste to increase your dps output and healing while active since Mastery gives no bonuses to it. Other builds suggest haste & mastery. It's all messed up right now.

  • @emilianogarcia5871
    @emilianogarcia5871 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cuando sale en la parte de Nokhud, es igualito al chavo del 8 xd hasta la franela

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ni idea de quien es "el chavo del 8"

    • @emilianogarcia5871
      @emilianogarcia5871 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MidwayPaladin Its ok friend, i just comment this for latin ppl who will watch this video. Nice guide btw, you help me a lot!

    • @emilianogarcia5871
      @emilianogarcia5871 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MidwayPaladin Btw, find it in google "el chavo del 8", you have the same shirt lol.

  • @ezekielring8990
    @ezekielring8990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why dont you count divine toll as a holy power generator?

  • @paolorreyes5073
    @paolorreyes5073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey bro, can u please explain the stats you use?

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haste > Vers for m+
      Haste > Mastery for raiding

  • @HermitOser
    @HermitOser ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you never press LoD once, but guides and discord say to use it in m+
    is it only situational?

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว

      it is greatly situational. If you can hit 4+ targets then it's better to use it over WoG as you get more healing out of it. But there is more nuance to that. The healing transfer through beacons is lesser for LoD than for WoG. Meaning that using WoG through beacons can be a bigger burst of healing than using LoD, specially if at 9 stacks of unending light. WoGs healing profile can just be better depending of the kind of damage and healing prio you have. Everything is always situational but the rule of thumb is that 4+ targets and pure aoe healing scenarios then LoD is better.

  • @Caylynn72
    @Caylynn72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if I have people super low and I don’t have WoG available, I shouldn’t use FoL? Holy pal used to be simpler.

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว

      FoL should be a filler or a very last resort since it will set you back in your rotation. There is always a situation where using a FoL might be the right play, but most of the time is not.

  • @Waterop91
    @Waterop91 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a macro to mouseover the nightfae blessings?

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yup. here it is:
      #showtooltip
      /cast [@mouseover, exists][@player] Blessing of Summer
      /cast [@mouseover, exists][@player] Blessing of Autumn
      /cast [@mouseover, exists][@player] Blessing of Winter
      /cast [@mouseover, exists][@player] Blessing of Spring

    • @Waterop91
      @Waterop91 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MidwayPaladin Thank you, Great Video! Amazing help!

  • @JohnLynch0
    @JohnLynch0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the bar tracking the fight flow on the left?

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's a WeakAura called Raid Ability Timer. You can find it on wago.io or in the spreadsheet linked in my description.

  • @breznaneran6286
    @breznaneran6286 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hmm first comment what should I say?

    • @MidwayPaladin
      @MidwayPaladin  ปีที่แล้ว

      idk but welcome!

    • @vanguelisk
      @vanguelisk ปีที่แล้ว

      That holy paladin feels bloody awesome after 10.0.7

  • @FlaShbacksRevenge
    @FlaShbacksRevenge ปีที่แล้ว

    is it just me or does hpaly seem to be the weakest among the healers ?

    • @christophercooke9307
      @christophercooke9307 ปีที่แล้ว

      I timed all keys on +19 last week at 404 ilvl and I’ve been playing it at 70 for like three weeks. Feels strong to me just lacking in dps

    • @vanguelisk
      @vanguelisk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to know when damage comes out and save holy power for damage events. You cant spam heals non-stop like an rdruid. HPal is very CD reliant

    • @FlaShbacksRevenge
      @FlaShbacksRevenge ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vanguelisk idk, mw does similar burst but also has hots and CDs and its so much easier. I did a 16 academy (bird) and had trouble topping the Tank, where I just maintained fistweaving as monk. Maybe its just my paly

    • @vanguelisk
      @vanguelisk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlaShbacksRevenge I have not played monk since Shadowlands S3, but for tankbusters you can use word of glory, holy shock, bubble/sack, light of the martyr.
      An even more dangerous strat if you play with coms with tank is to bubble/taunt
      DO NOT ever BoP a tank

  • @lochermaleficent5062
    @lochermaleficent5062 ปีที่แล้ว

    This UI tho....