If u shave whiskers than go on a trip then u beard and dont shave u whiskers and than u mustage And dont shave whiskers and beard and than let IT grow they dont komen u anymore i hope
They stopped you because system probably couldn’t identify you since you not from USA…… because every time you walk in casino they have all your information so they give you some excuses too check your identity because there is no law that you have to show your Id too them…. You still have laws protecting your human rights even if you on someone else property it wasn’t because you wore counting cards it’s impossible too win vs casino they pay out out of % income they make that’s why casino never loose they don’t gamble the only gamble is if they let you win😂
I did this at an airport after already going thru security, and the cop/security guy who randomly stopped me then detained me and almost made me not make my flight. Lol. Definitely show your ID at an airport is what I learned from that.
As an expert in gaming law and in casino security. And current police officer. This guy lied to you at 16:41 saying that all info stays in house. All card counters are nationally distributed to gaming enforcement. Also you are correct. Only a law enforcement officer aka police can mandatorily request your ID. You do not have to give your name. You played this wonderfully. Bravo.
@@memirandawong Did they physically take the ID from your pocket? Or block you from leaving? If they used force in any way and you have proof, I assume you could sue. But beware casinos definitely have the best lawyers and you will probably lose some way or another.
@@jewellry They threatened force and blocked us from leaving and only letting us into the casino elevator so we could pack up and leave at their demand.
100% guarantee the staff told the cop you were being beliggerant and resisting. This is why the cops attitude change after talking to you for a bit. As far as I know card counting is not illegal, they just don't like it.
@@DeathbySkullfxxx very true. Sometimes though you have to side with the casino when someone is trying to cheat by stealing chips, acting like an a-hole because they are drunk. We saw that happen and the guy was escorted out but kept resisting so the police came and helped. This was in Mesquit NV
@@54ff265 Nothing fraudulent about it. They have every right to kick you out for any reason or even no reason, but people aren't gonna gamble at a casino that's known for throwing people out for winning big so makes sense it rarely happens if ever.
The reason why his attitude change is because when you told him you were counting cards he realized the casino had lied to him and was trying to trick him into doing something illegal.
This is dangerous, if not life-threatening. Tricking a person into a spat with a cop can end very poorly. It really says volumes about them that they'd be okay with indirectly murdering an innocent person that way.
My dads a dealer and they have bolo’s (be on the look out) for card counters from states away from different casinos.they all share every card counter they find.
Fun tidbit: if casino sells alcohol, buy 1 beer and babysit it. If they need to verify your ID later as you leave cause they need to "determine you are of age" (supposedly) and you were not ID checked when buying the beer, you can cost them their liquor license for not verifying someone who is of questionable age or they will face a hefty fine (depending on state) which will still cost them a good amount of money and legal headaches that they will want to avoid by just cashing you out and backing you off. This way you are on video proving your age and they won't be logging your info. Note: Keep in mind some places do swipe your ID card so they may retain your info. Watch how the bar tender checks IDs.
Steven, just want to chime in that I'm not person whose even slightly interested in gambling or card counting, or even magic for that matter. But you drew me into this series from the very first minute and I've just been hooked. Keep up the good work brother, and I look forward to all your future endeavours!
This series has been so interesting. Not just card counting but how casinos work, how the cops can act and just how much pressure being in this environment can be. Been really good. Nice job.
I agree. I don't know if u have ever seen videos from the channel Audit the Audit but it shows different interactions with law enforcement and tries to give an unbiased view of what the officers do right and wrong. I think this video would be a good one for that channel to go over.
@@oldmancannabis3026 yes, I have come across it a few times. I don't watch all the videos but the channel does a great job of talking about both sides of the coin.
@@MrBadjohn69 have you watched the whole series? Not saying you're wrong but he has explained many things throughout the series. Constructive criticism is all good.
@@MrBadjohn69 no I live in the UK. There's no need to be aggressive. Sure, like I'd know UK laws better than you. However, I know Steven, if you'd watched the full series you'd know he's spoken to those in the card counting industry. He's done his research but maybe bring this up with him. He's a magician yes, he's even shown his magic to the public and performs in London on the streets. He's also not a con man. Watch the series, there's more to it than just the whole ID debate.
@@MrBadjohn69 I'm not aware of all the facts or laws requiring ID in Washington or a casino but that's why I brought up the Audit the Audit channel because they go in depth and even quote the certain State statutes that have to do with the laws and our rights as a U.S. citizen. I'm not totally sure why u even replied in such a confrontational tone in a comment where BecksCald and I were having a civil discussion.
The cop mentioned that he admired his skills and thinks card counting is very cool. He was only agressive because he though he was dealing with another DB drunken harasser as the casino obviously did not give out the real reason they called him up. Once he found out the real reason, he was totally on his side.
As a former casino employee as a cashier and as a dealer and a poker supervisor, they DO share information with other casinos if the customer has been either cheating or "Counting Cards". Now, counting cards is NOT illegal it is just Frowned upon.
Do you think that was the reason they wanted the ID so badly? If they got the ID do you reckon they would've put the ID on that database? What do you think they would've done with the information? Thanks
Ah yes, winning the game is always frowned upon by the one consistently cheating people out of their money. I seriously hope Casino's ALL go under. Evil evil evil scum from top to bottom.
I’ve never counted cards in my life and one time I was just randomly changing my bets and winning. I was just having a great time and I was backed off. I had no clue what that meant and they eventually realized I was just really buzzed and lucky. They apologized to me, gave me a free buffet voucher and let me go on my way. It was kind of exhilarating tbh lol
I'd love to see this notorious card counter that unknowingly caused you so much trouble in multiple casinos. I almost wonder if you've unknowingly caused him trouble as well.
very funny that the cop verified your ID and let you back inside the casino in front of the staff, verifying that you are indeed of age, then the staff try to swipe it for the very same verification
That is the truth well spoken. When you use a systematic way of keeping track of the cards, it is not cheating and it should be allowed and that is my firm belief
@@suspicious2delicious the only cheating in gambling is the casinos themselves. They want you to think it’s cheating since it hurts their robbery scheme
Your explanation of the sponsor for your video is by far the most honest and most appreciated explanation of a sponsor that I have ever heard. I really appreciate your honesty
In America, you have to think litigiously, there are some cases in the courts that have said it is actually illegal for a casino to back-off for advantage play. So by saying it's a business decision they haven't admitted it's because you're counting, and they retain their right to exclude you even if one of those cases gets through in their state.
@@shentino Have you personally verified that it is in fact private property? Did you also verify that the 'private property' belonged to a living person? Is the building privately owned but the land belongs to a conglomerate, government, or anything other than the same owner of the building? Did the building or land receive funds from the government to 'help' build it? People just throw the term 'private property' around like its a hot dog at a grill off without realizing that most large for profit corporations RARELY have private property rights beyond what their private security can offer due to the fact that they MIGHT own the building but the land they are on is federal, therefore private property rights aren't in full effect. You can't have private property belonging to 120 different people while sitting on federal, state, or protected land. It just doesn't work like that and people should really look into it.
@@shentino "Since we're talking about a casino that goes without saying" Actually no, it doesn't. If the casino is on a reserve for instance, there is high chance that it isn't private property, but owned by a federally recognized conglomerate/council. Similar scenarios could exist in non-reserve land as well depending on the state and the means by which it was constructed. I know this is hard to fathom, but you can have businesses that are federal without on the surface appearing to be federal. So it's kind of funny that you claim you're being sea-lioned when in actuality you're the one engaging in a bad faith argument. Here's a tip, people asking questions in a single post are not 'trolling' or 'harassing' or any of the other requirements for sea-lioning, they might be, you know, just asking questions. Get over yourself.
Pretty cool of that cop to protect your identity. Almost til the end of video I was wondering if he told them your name but as many times as they tried to get it out of you pretty much exonerates the cop from ratting you out. Quite a good story & props to that cop. 👍🤘
“It’s a business decision” does make sense in the context of business being unprofitable with card counters, Which is why I am in love with this channel. I hope you inspire others to count during blackjack tables to screw over these addiction preying casinos. Great stuff
Fantastic series! To be fair to the lady, asking you to play table minimum is a fair enough response to someone who had just voluntarily blurted out to an officer, "By the way, I am a card counter."
For sure. She was chill, I have no problem with how she handled the interaction. She was friendly and talked to me like a human (except maybe the 'business decision' line but I imagine thats what she's trained to say)
Gee... imagine putting all the prepwork into painstakingly learning these high level skills, raising the bankroll and planning an international trip, only to apparently have some mysterious card counting doppleganger cramping your action(!).
I love his videos but isnt that person who sent the profile working for the casino? Didnt he just expose himself? Im new here and worried he might have just "doxxed" himself towards that database.
The fact that they run that kind of surveillance on people and share it around really pisses me off! You've don't nothing wrong; you play the game within the established rules, and they still treat you like a criminal. What a fucking racket!
@@XMysticHerox While I appreciate that many countries in the EU at least pretend to uphold your right to privacy, it's kind of hard to think it is little more than lip service when most if not all of the EU nations are part of The 14 Eyes (broad sweeping agreement between nations for participation in surveillance and signal monitoring).
@@ABQSentinel 14 eyes does not necessarily mean mass surveilance in those nations. Though you are correct that many EU nations almost certainly do employ it to some degree. Though definitely not to the same degree the US does. However while also not great it is quite different to corporations doing so. The state usually has no reason to sell, share or even look at the collected information. For corporations it´s the opposite. The data they gather ends up everywhere and is extensively used.
All you have to do is add +1 or -1, or if you're more sophisticated, also +2 or -2 sometimes. What's tough is finding a game where the rules are decent and the variations in deck makeup aren't smoothed out too much by the number of decks in a shoe. And most important of all is self-discipline, because you can have a very favorable deck an still lose 7 or 8 times in a row sometimes.
I don't know why this came up on my feed, but i watched it till the very end.. And i liked it! Thank you, it was refreshing to see something else for once.
The algorithm really has blessed me with this awesome series. I even showed a couple of your videos to my dad (a retired pro poker player) and he got a good laugh out of it. He's seen his fair share of card counters and really respects that kind of courage
I love how in the end the casinos seemingly always give up because the employees don't actually care _that_ much, so at some point they just get sick of it and let you go.
I think it always comes down to the amount. Every time they push for ID at cash out the managers first question is 'how much' there definitely seems to be a line where its not worth the hassle to him. I'm guessing the closer you get to the 10k limit the harder that gets.
Even when the guy at the end is told by the cashier after she calls a supervisor, its only policy not a law, he pulls his jacket back to reveal the handcuffs on his belt. Some extra intimidation.
@@artistsimpression 10,000.01 is the threshold in one "gaming day" gaming day is decided by each casino as to when they open and close. if you are open 24 hours you have to tell the Gaming Commission when your day switches over.
As a casino security officer I can’t stand it when casino workers are this this aggressive. I have never denied a person to get their money in 2 years of doing this job.
Especially over these amounts. Like if someone really put the heat on and was betting $5k hands on a hot count and won $40k before getting backed off I could see it, but dude is trying to cash out $1k or $2k thats bizarre
Especially over these amounts. Like if someone really put the heat on and was betting $5k hands on a hot count and won $40k before getting backed off I could see it, but dude is trying to cash out $1k or $2k thats bizarre
That’s awesome! I have no interest in gambling or counting cards, but the fact that you know the law and stood up to the casino was great! Great story-telling!
He made it clear that he DIDN'T know the law and that he now knows that they COULD refuse to pay him directly without ID, that they'd then give him a receipt he could take to the gaming commission where to make want kind of complaint HE'D HAVE TO SHOW ID which would then be in the report and the casino would be shown that as part of the process of investigating his complaint.
Thank you for standing up for your rights and the "human right" of not being forced to hand over your Personal Information to be collect and stored into a database.
19:30 - I wonder if it would be possibly to turn this around and ask them for a affidavit or at the very least a written letter by the manager that they would NOT share your information anywhere outside of that casino and see how they react to that? Could be interesting to push your luck here with this approach and see how they would react.
take it one step further, what if you then pull paperwork out drafted by a lawyer saying that they won't share your information. And asking them to sign that paperwork. have form a triplicate, needs to be signed by casino. management, needs to be signed by the gaming commission, needs to be signed by surveillance.
Everyone who legitimately goes to casinos knows they can be asked for ID and doesn't care. Most people aren't there to do something they know the casino is completely against their doing. Anyone who gambles in a casino knows they're there to lose money and that the casino intends for them to lose money. Steven knows the casino doesn't want him there and that they're going to push back hard to remove him. He's not some innocent child being hassled. He knows he's not welcome and that he's going to be kicked out as soon as they recognize what he's doing. And no, what he's doing isn't illegal, and no, when they kick him out they're not doing anything illegal. In a few states they can't kick him out, but in those states they just immediately change the game so he can't make any money at it. What he's doing is mostly driving from casino to casino so he can keep refusing to show ID for his TH-cam channel on not showing ID.
Normal people just show ID. Besides, he's actually at an amount of chips where I'm asked to show ID at my local casino and so is everyone else. Steven may claim they have to cash him out without ID for that amount, he may be right, but they have their own policies and rules and his idea that the state forbids them from establishing such policies and enforcing them is so far something the state regulators have not agreed with at least twice. Plus how does Steven propose to enforce the law he claims makes their asking for ID illegal? Call the state regulators? Make a complaint? ANONYMOUSLY...? They're going to ask for his name as well, and if he doesn't give his name they're very likely not going to investigate because there's no way for them to investigate a complaint from "anonymous" or to do anything about it if it even got to the point of wagging their finger at the casino. Besides, Steven already got into at least one blowout with a state regulator and the state regulator WAS EVEN WORSE ABOUT IT THAN CASINO SECURITY! He even threatened to have Steven arrested. Casinos don't want to play blackjack with card counters and they have the right to kick anyone out at any time that they want to. There are a few states where they can't stop counters from playing but they quickly change the game so there's no way to make any worthwhile money. There's not a single addicted gambler who is going to do anything differently because of Steven's videos showing his I-won't-show-you-my-stinkin'-ID Performance Art. No one is surprised that we have to show ID for sky transaction over an amount I'm not going to list here but it's much lower than Steven thinks. And they'll ask every time in every casino I've ever been in at that amount or more. Steven is doing something he knows they ABSOLUTELY don't want him in there doing. He's only making himself more famous by creating these scenes and then putting them on TH-cam, but they'd make him famous anyway. And no legitimate casino customer would be the slightest bit less likely to patronize casinos because of Steven's intense and successful efforts to make himself famous not showing ID or his humorous videos documenting his success.
That's exactly what they're expecting. If you cause a scene, that gives them probable cause to escalate the situation and actually get security to detain you. Staying calm but firm, and knowing your rights, is the only course of action in that situation. Assuming your goal is to cash out and walk away, of course
Yes Steven, smashing! You were almost poetic speaking to these brutes.Others would have thrown a tantrum.You do have courage to be defiant. Practicing on a 6 deck shoe is great with counting if you counted correctly your 2nd to last card will either be -1 or +1 and the last card will be Zero. I get the jist.Come back and visit Steve.
Just had the sudden realisation that I've been watching you for i think over 8 years now. How far youve come! Your ability to stick with it and adapt is impressive.
Glad you were able to cash out id-less. Been living in the Seattle area for 34 years and I will attest that your interaction with the police officer is pretty spot on. Generally if called to an unsavory situation the first interaction is intense but if you are able to calmly explain yourself with low tones and eye contact things will usually deescalate. Example: Richmond beach bonfire summer night early 2000's 15+ people and a cop shows up crashes the gathering and immediately starts the breathalyzer the group. We happened to be smoking weed and were able to bury most of it in the sand upon his arrival. After passing the breathalyzer the cop was super cool and asked me if I was going to bumbershoot (Seattle music/arts festival) this year and we chatted about local music for few moments.
I would add to that, the casino staff probably lied to the cop about the nature of the stop, and that became immediately clear to the cop when this guy flat-out admitted everything. Cops don't like to be "played", even if they are obligated financially to be on a certain side.
That's terrible, a police officer's first port of call should always be to de-escalate the situation. Riling up a civilian by making them feel threatened and ganged up on always leads to higher chances of an altercation. Maybe that's the point though...
you have become a legend among us dreaming of counting cards u proved it can be done if u focus and are always willing to learn more..... AND are willing to deal with bad situations
I've always hated casions just because they look disgusting to look at (yes, the buildings themselves), but this series is making me despise them for what they are doing. Good job Steven!
I still go and play cents on the slot machines . it's one of the last few places in the US that allows me to smoke a good cigar inside 👍🏼. But I've never been comfortable gambling large amounts .
Dude i came across a random 2016 video of yours like last week and immediately binged watched your stuff. super enjoyable mate. Im not a confrontational person so watching that exchange between you and the authorities is even stressing me out lol. kudos to you for being calm as hell.
Love your confidence, on top of who doesn’t enjoy seeing someone stand up to a bully? Whose trying to intimidate you, that successful intimidates others.
In Vegas, the ID check is to put your particulars in the "Griffen" exclusion book for card counters. They share this information with all the Vegas casinos, so they can jump on you and refuse to deal with you. I got in the book in 69 and was refused service in the old Castaways. So I play only with short periods of time and take a hike.
For anyone interested in knowing, I have a copy of Biometrica's Casino Live 6 and there is a function in the program called SIN notifications (surveillance information network). Essentially what it allows surveillance departments to do is document a report of incident, select from a scroll list of common problems notated in casinos, then issue a BOLO (be on the lookout) as an SIN notification. Then a list of casinos subscribed to the Biometrica program pull up and the casino can select from the list which casinos to notify. Surveillance officers then receive personal emails in some cases giving them the relevant case information and there you have it. That's how they communicate in 2023!
They have to get his i.d to be compliant with title 31 the employee doesn’t really have a choice and neither really does the casino. That has to do with money laundering regulations. He should just provide his i.d. And move on or just not come into the casino in the first place.
@@Nubs1981 do you think that they got his I.d. A second time because they think he’s an advantage player and they want to evict him?? Why wouldn’t they ban him then. Security didn’t issue a ban. Why would they get his i.d. Then just say okay your free to leave. The reason they got his I.D. Is because he was close to title 31 thresholds which they ask for before the 10,000 like he mentioned. People always think that kind of stuff though because employees aren’t really supposed to talk openly about that they just tell the employees to refer people to the pamphlets for title 31 which all casinos are required to have.
Hey STEVE! You should definitly do a series 2 of this but in a country where casino laws and regulations are minimal, im sure that there's somewhere in the world where you could win tons of money with a bit of a lower profile. I hope this becomes your full time career as I find your vids extremely entertaining - which is odd as I know nothing about blackjack/card counting or ever go to casinos and I'm sure there are plenty other like me who just like watching your vids. Keep up the good work my guy!
If you are ever convinced to show your ID to verify age you should immediately ask for the paper bracelet so if they approach again and ask for your ID & use "age confirmation" as the excuse,you can simply show the bracelet and avoid having your time wasted while trying to cash out... Love the videos. Keep up the good work.
Paper bracelets mean nothing. I work at a place for 21 & over peep. Even if they are wearing a paper bracelet we still ID people b4 they can drink or gamble (or just stand in a gaming area).. tbe "im not playing" answer means nothing. Under 21 people are not allowed to loiter in a gaming area
Same thing has happened to me more than once through the past 5-10 years this guy was 100% respectful and should receive an apology from the casino and be able to sue to, not following rules/law whatever those assholes call their own rules on their bosses’s property..
I can say since the start of this series.. its been my most anticipated watch on any platform/movie/show anything. Thank you for documenting your experience and teaching us
So delighted for you that these videos have picked up real traction, Steven. The first few really struggled to pick up momentum but that didn't put you off from posting them and they're raking in the views that they rightfully deserve. Keep going, we love it!
Thank you! Yeah was a bit of a slow burn. I think the conflict heavy nature of the more recent ones helped for clicks, and many people went and binged the series. 😃
This was a great series. Don't know how I ended up on it during the TH-cam abyss of late night scrolling, but you earned a follower and a supporter of future projects. Well done, Unidentified Male 1183.
As someone who has studied the gambling industry, I can tell you that casinos are extremely corrupt. They're no different than tobacco, pharmaceutical and fossil fuel industries.
You're agenda is obvious...so-called "green energy" industries are a fraud. You're likely one of those people who believe that electric comes from the wall outlet and hasn't a clue about how much human LIFE is dependent upon petroleum products. And no, I have no direct financial interest whatsoever in fossil fuel. Stop drinking the Koolaide, go watch Planet of the Humans and have a serious sit down with yourself.
Give this man some likes! He should have just walked away, but is choosing to converse with the staff for our benefit or entertainment. I say that's pretty nice of him!
i dont get why people said casino employees loves winners. if the players won a lot of money, in other words taking a lot of money from the casinos, doesnt this mean that the casino employees has a risked of getting fired since the casinos are potentionally getting bankrupt and they cant pay the employees salary? not that im against card counting or anything but i think casinos employees are neutral to winners, i wouldn't say they "love" winners
I can’t wrap my head around the “no card-counting” rule. You’re allowed to look at all the face-up cards, so it’s a thought crime, based on suspicion alone. Surely. there are people who instinctively change their hit or stick decisions, based on the cards they’ve seen dealt…who don’t even know what they’re doing.
Great show man! Whether card counting is a success for you or not is irrelevant, the fact you're having these wild crazy adventures is worth so much more. So many people live dull, mundane lives where they risk nothing, experience nothing, to experience free adventure like you are really is a dream come true. Keep going bro, yolo
This is one of the most genuinely honest people I’ve ever watched on TH-cam. It’s so refreshing to hear someone speak when you know they’re just a good person at heart.
Nope. This guy is misrepresenting himself as a customer and illegally trespassing on private property in order to defraud a business. It's called scamming and it's very illegal when used to perpetuate both petty theft and grand theft. He's lying to the casino, the police, and the viewer and enjoying doing so.
I have to ask- as a magician, did you find yourself thinking "I wish I'd leaned more into mentalism than illusions" when you were confronted by the Police / security? Excellent series, looking forward to seeing more.
A magician? He's not a magician. This guy is misrepresenting himself as a customer and illegally trespassing on private property in order to defraud a business. It's called scamming and it's very illegal when used to perpetuate both petty theft and grand theft. He's lying to the casino, the police, and the viewer and enjoying doing so.
I'm so happy that you may be able to go full-time youtube! You really deserve it after all your hard work with each video. All this card counting is so so interesting to learn about. Thank yoouuu :)
Enjoyed the video, especially since I live in Washington State, and have played in every casino here. The majority of the "Indian" casinos use their own tribal police. With the exception of Quinault and Tulalip, the tribal casinos tend to have more customers in their casinos at any given time, then the total amount of their tribal population. Since their law enforcement budgets are huge, they spend a lot on hiring usually lateral or retired officers from other departments. Angel of the Winds, for example, has a total of 209 registered tribal members, where the casino has an average of 400 to 1000 guests at any given time. They employ 15 law enforcement police officers, they don't have a town, just brand new buildings and vehicles that are rarely used, and are usually empty. I've gotten id'd after winning "in a row jackpots" on slots, which is ridiculous, being there is no way to take advantage of a slot machine.
Hello from an ex-washingtonian! Never got the chance to play at ilani, but i've played a handful of casinos in WA. Still want to hit ilani at some poimt, when I have the opportunity to visit friends and family again.
My friend rob is a card counter who lives in washington. You look almost identical to him, and he is banned pretty much everywhere in the state where he has to travel out of state to play. I wouldnt be suprised if you were be mistaken for him. Id love to send you a photo so you can see the face that was most likely causing you trouble. You two look like twins.
You need to ask them for their id’s when they ask for yours .. and tell them that their info will remain with you only so it’s safe. Will be fun to see their response.
I used to work for a big casino. Even staff get screwed over. Not allowed to accept tips over a certain amount or else you have to give it to the casino and they give you what you’re allowed to receive. And if a guest gifts you something like LV bag you have to turn it into management and same deal applies, you get what you’re allowed and they keep the bag. What you’re allowed is like $30.00.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist nope. You sign paperwork allowing it when you start. It’s one of the cons. Ofcourse people can meet you outside of work but let’s be honest, who’s really that committed to tipping good service. I quit a few months in, overworked and under appreciated.
@@YoWhoDat Well a contract can say anything it wants too, it does not mean its always legally enforceable. Just like how non compete clauses are illegal most the time.
Whatever you sign is just that casinos policy. All casinos are different when it comes to tips and gifts. I've seen where security offers pool tips by shifting some places individually but they had to take it directly to the cage and receive a reciept for it later to be included on their check. As far as gifts I've observed employees receive Oakley sunglasses to gift cards. As long as it wasn't alcohol and the individual dept. does not have a policy against it they were allowed to keep it. That's over 21+ years of observation in the gaming business.
This is the casino I work at!! I’m a cashier here. I’m sorry you had this experience. We do NOT need Id to cash you out unless it exceeds 10000 dollars which yours did not.
Considering how something similar to this happened several videos ago, I'd believe there indeed actually is another card counter who looks quite similar to you, and who got themselves banned from pretty much all the major casinos in the area.
I work at a casino and yes they do share information they are constantly printing out ID info sheets from other casinos and put them on a cork board with a "look for these people" at the table games office.
Former 911 call taker. The casino straight lied about you trespassing because otherwise the cops wouldn’t really show up, at least not until you were already gone. They know the police aren’t going to bother charging them with filing a false report for doing so.
Yup, they knew he was a counter so wanted to find a way for him to leave but it didn’t work. So they said fuc it let’s try to take his money but it doesn’t work so they kick him out
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If u shave whiskers than go on a trip then u beard and dont shave u whiskers and than u mustage And dont shave whiskers and beard and than let IT grow they dont komen u anymore i hope
Well, I don't think you are "unidentified" any longer, since they now have this video to cross-reference you.
They stopped you because system probably couldn’t identify you since you not from USA…… because every time you walk in casino they have all your information so they give you some excuses too check your identity because there is no law that you have to show your Id too them…. You still have laws protecting your human rights even if you on someone else property it wasn’t because you wore counting cards it’s impossible too win vs casino they pay out out of % income they make that’s why casino never loose they don’t gamble the only gamble is if they let you win😂
pretty bold move from them to assume your gender tbh...
"We need your ID"
"I'm not giving it"
"Why not?"
"It's a business decision"
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thats.....technically still correct XD
He HAS to say that in a future video! UM 1183 PLEASE MAKE IT SO!
I did this at an airport after already going thru security, and the cop/security guy who randomly stopped me then detained me and almost made me not make my flight. Lol. Definitely show your ID at an airport is what I learned from that.
He should definitely use that
At this point in the series, I can’t decide what the biggest challenge is: the act of counting cards or actually seeing Steven Bridges’ ID.
Counting cards is easy with practice. Prying an ID from a knowledgeable AP is a lot more difficult ;)
@@tmtmtlsml I mean the cop did fairly easily so IDK they kind of seem on the same level of skill.
It could be worse like getting caught countings cards in a Casino owned by the mafia
Now that's funny!!
Why do that when you can search his TH-cam channel then you get everything
As an expert in gaming law and in casino security. And current police officer. This guy lied to you at 16:41 saying that all info stays in house. All card counters are nationally distributed to gaming enforcement. Also you are correct. Only a law enforcement officer aka police can mandatorily request your ID. You do not have to give your name. You played this wonderfully. Bravo.
Me too
@@YanosProductions THANKS FOR THE UPDATE
Do I have any legal recourse when forced to give my ID to Casino security while the police stood back and watched?
@@memirandawong Did they physically take the ID from your pocket? Or block you from leaving? If they used force in any way and you have proof, I assume you could sue. But beware casinos definitely have the best lawyers and you will probably lose some way or another.
@@jewellry They threatened force and blocked us from leaving and only letting us into the casino elevator so we could pack up and leave at their demand.
100% guarantee the staff told the cop you were being beliggerant and resisting. This is why the cops attitude change after talking to you for a bit. As far as I know card counting is not illegal, they just don't like it.
Its not illegal. But they dont need to state someones being beligerant to refuse service nor treat a counter like shit.
@@DeathbySkullfxxx very true. Sometimes though you have to side with the casino when someone is trying to cheat by stealing chips, acting like an a-hole because they are drunk. We saw that happen and the guy was escorted out but kept resisting so the police came and helped. This was in Mesquit NV
It is not illegal but private property so a casino can refuse to allow someone to gamble.
@@DeathbySkullfxxx that's true but can you refuse service on basis someone winning, then it becomes unfair and fraudulent
@@54ff265 Nothing fraudulent about it. They have every right to kick you out for any reason or even no reason, but people aren't gonna gamble at a casino that's known for throwing people out for winning big so makes sense it rarely happens if ever.
The reason why his attitude change is because when you told him you were counting cards he realized the casino had lied to him and was trying to trick him into doing something illegal.
This is dangerous, if not life-threatening. Tricking a person into a spat with a cop can end very poorly. It really says volumes about them that they'd be okay with indirectly murdering an innocent person that way.
As someone who worked in the Casinis I can say 100% that casinos share information.
Definitely trust “Grumpy guy” from the TH-cam comments
No they don't
It’d be moronic if they didn’t.
It’s no secret
My dads a dealer and they have bolo’s (be on the look out) for card counters from states away from different casinos.they all share every card counter they find.
Fun tidbit: if casino sells alcohol, buy 1 beer and babysit it. If they need to verify your ID later as you leave cause they need to "determine you are of age" (supposedly) and you were not ID checked when buying the beer, you can cost them their liquor license for not verifying someone who is of questionable age or they will face a hefty fine (depending on state) which will still cost them a good amount of money and legal headaches that they will want to avoid by just cashing you out and backing you off. This way you are on video proving your age and they won't be logging your info.
Note: Keep in mind some places do swipe your ID card so they may retain your info. Watch how the bar tender checks IDs.
Um. Lol. Your comment is just too try-hard-ie.
@@OceanSkate401 then don't try
@@trickwheel you.
@@trickwheel you’re a try-hard. I can just tell. Bec of your orig comment. Lol absolute hogwash.
@@OceanSkate401 why you worried about what I do?
"cards on the table"
"If I were a gambling man"
So many great puns. 21/10
Saying "You can only play the table minimum" is a fancy way of saying "you can only play if you lose your money to us"
Steven, just want to chime in that I'm not person whose even slightly interested in gambling or card counting, or even magic for that matter. But you drew me into this series from the very first minute and I've just been hooked. Keep up the good work brother, and I look forward to all your future endeavours!
Omg same. I was in the hospital for a week recovering from a collapsed lung and I came across his videos and I’ve been hooked ever since
Absolutely same!! I love this series.
Thanks so much! This gives me confidence if I ever want to make a series that isn't card counting based.
@@KenzieTrinityDeasy Ah yeah, I remember having nothing to do except binge lots of videos after I had one of my lungs collapse 😅
Same, it’s interesting stuff.
This series has been so interesting. Not just card counting but how casinos work, how the cops can act and just how much pressure being in this environment can be. Been really good. Nice job.
I agree. I don't know if u have ever seen videos from the channel Audit the Audit but it shows different interactions with law enforcement and tries to give an unbiased view of what the officers do right and wrong. I think this video would be a good one for that channel to go over.
@@oldmancannabis3026 yes, I have come across it a few times. I don't watch all the videos but the channel does a great job of talking about both sides of the coin.
@@MrBadjohn69 have you watched the whole series? Not saying you're wrong but he has explained many things throughout the series. Constructive criticism is all good.
@@MrBadjohn69 no I live in the UK. There's no need to be aggressive. Sure, like I'd know UK laws better than you. However, I know Steven, if you'd watched the full series you'd know he's spoken to those in the card counting industry.
He's done his research but maybe bring this up with him. He's a magician yes, he's even shown his magic to the public and performs in London on the streets. He's also not a con man. Watch the series, there's more to it than just the whole ID debate.
@@MrBadjohn69 I'm not aware of all the facts or laws requiring ID in Washington or a casino but that's why I brought up the Audit the Audit channel because they go in depth and even quote the certain State statutes that have to do with the laws and our rights as a U.S. citizen. I'm not totally sure why u even replied in such a confrontational tone in a comment where BecksCald and I were having a civil discussion.
I think the cop felt bad for you because you were getting harassed by the Casino employees. I am happy everything worked out for you at the end.
The cop mentioned that he admired his skills and thinks card counting is very cool. He was only agressive because he though he was dealing with another DB drunken harasser as the casino obviously did not give out the real reason they called him up. Once he found out the real reason, he was totally on his side.
The cop was a tribal cop. They’re all employed by the tribe
As a former casino employee as a cashier and as a dealer and a poker supervisor, they DO share information with other casinos if the customer has been either cheating or "Counting Cards". Now, counting cards is NOT illegal it is just Frowned upon.
Do you think that was the reason they wanted the ID so badly? If they got the ID do you reckon they would've put the ID on that database? What do you think they would've done with the information? Thanks
Heavily frowned upon, i presume.
Well any reliable way for you to get a profit will be frowned upon, they wanna earn money. I’ll never gamble so it’s fine for me.
@@tclphone2392 Of course they would have added it to the database, that isn't even a question.
Ah yes, winning the game is always frowned upon by the one consistently cheating people out of their money. I seriously hope Casino's ALL go under. Evil evil evil scum from top to bottom.
crazy how much power casinos have over the players, often breaking their own rules. keep up the good work!!
Tellllll me about it! Thank you 😃
This series could cost the whole gambling industry a lot of money.
@@a.f.331 Aw hell no. There are millions of people who love conflict without consequence. Just ask any bar bouncer.
@@a.f.331 lol good one troll
Being on an Indian casino gives a lot of power to them.
I’ve never counted cards in my life and one time I was just randomly changing my bets and winning. I was just having a great time and I was backed off. I had no clue what that meant and they eventually realized I was just really buzzed and lucky. They apologized to me, gave me a free buffet voucher and let me go on my way. It was kind of exhilarating tbh lol
Should be a warning sign saying: "we don't take kindly to winners"
"Sorry, we thought you were on a winnig streak, turns out we can coddle you into losing everything all over again"
I'm not a gambling man and I've never even set foot in a casino but I'm absolutely engrossed by your story telling. Love it keep up the great work!
That's very kind of you! 😃
I'd love to see this notorious card counter that unknowingly caused you so much trouble in multiple casinos. I almost wonder if you've unknowingly caused him trouble as well.
same
very funny that the cop verified your ID and let you back inside the casino in front of the staff, verifying that you are indeed of age, then the staff try to swipe it for the very same verification
Love these videos! They make me happy seeing how angry casinos get when they aren’t the ones doing the robbing for once lol. Keep killing it!
hahah thank you!
Great content
@@stevenbridges try Poland
Fax
That is the truth well spoken. When you use a systematic way of keeping track of the cards, it is not cheating and it should be allowed and that is my firm belief
You're a saint for challenging these bullies. I'm happy that cop was on your side, I'm glad you trusted your instincts on that and it worked out.
He wasn't being bullied in the videos he recorded they were being very nice and polite to him.
@@dollors1 I thought counting card was cheating?
@@suspicious2delicious the only cheating in gambling is the casinos themselves. They want you to think it’s cheating since it hurts their robbery scheme
@@WitsEndFL It's a business right? they set that up to make money. No one is forcing you to spend money there.
@@WitsEndFL there is no "robbery scheme". If you don't want to gamble, don't go to the casino
Your explanation of the sponsor for your video is by far the most honest and most appreciated explanation of a sponsor that I have ever heard. I really appreciate your honesty
In America, you have to think litigiously, there are some cases in the courts that have said it is actually illegal for a casino to back-off for advantage play. So by saying it's a business decision they haven't admitted it's because you're counting, and they retain their right to exclude you even if one of those cases gets through in their state.
I think it has more to do with the principle of private property and with it the maxim of "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
@wont-sight3 Businesses are only limited in discrimination against protected classes, and "those with an advantage" are not a protected class.
@@shentino Have you personally verified that it is in fact private property? Did you also verify that the 'private property' belonged to a living person? Is the building privately owned but the land belongs to a conglomerate, government, or anything other than the same owner of the building? Did the building or land receive funds from the government to 'help' build it? People just throw the term 'private property' around like its a hot dog at a grill off without realizing that most large for profit corporations RARELY have private property rights beyond what their private security can offer due to the fact that they MIGHT own the building but the land they are on is federal, therefore private property rights aren't in full effect. You can't have private property belonging to 120 different people while sitting on federal, state, or protected land. It just doesn't work like that and people should really look into it.
@@15thobserver Since we're talking about a casino that goes without saying, beyond that I see no point in catering to blatant sealioning.
@@shentino "Since we're talking about a casino that goes without saying" Actually no, it doesn't. If the casino is on a reserve for instance, there is high chance that it isn't private property, but owned by a federally recognized conglomerate/council. Similar scenarios could exist in non-reserve land as well depending on the state and the means by which it was constructed. I know this is hard to fathom, but you can have businesses that are federal without on the surface appearing to be federal. So it's kind of funny that you claim you're being sea-lioned when in actuality you're the one engaging in a bad faith argument.
Here's a tip, people asking questions in a single post are not 'trolling' or 'harassing' or any of the other requirements for sea-lioning, they might be, you know, just asking questions. Get over yourself.
Pretty cool of that cop to protect your identity. Almost til the end of video I was wondering if he told them your name but as many times as they tried to get it out of you pretty much exonerates the cop from ratting you out. Quite a good story & props to that cop. 👍🤘
the cop was the rat ... just trying to be nice ,,,,sorry Steven dont get carried away
@@tf3061 wtf what u talking bout
@@tf3061 yes the cops are trained to lie and can legally lie.
Probably not a real cop lol
“It’s a business decision” does make sense in the context of business being unprofitable with card counters, Which is why I am in love with this channel. I hope you inspire others to count during blackjack tables to screw over these addiction preying casinos. Great stuff
I'd love to see you do the same thing in other countries. This series has been the best thing I've watched for a long time!
Doing this in other countries can get you roughed up pretty bad. I would advise against it.
european blackjack rules make it almost impossible to actually profit from card counting
@@vyyr I'm guessing more decks in the shoe? 8?
@@Kulanae not only that. basicly no splitting and no double downs, and all the hot spots have CSM
other than europe and austuria, any other countries would get you killed
Fantastic series!
To be fair to the lady, asking you to play table minimum is a fair enough response to someone who had just voluntarily blurted out to an officer, "By the way, I am a card counter."
For sure. She was chill, I have no problem with how she handled the interaction. She was friendly and talked to me like a human (except maybe the 'business decision' line but I imagine thats what she's trained to say)
Never had an interest in gaming but this series has been fascinating. Casinos are so much more corrupt than I ever imagined.
Gee... imagine putting all the prepwork into painstakingly learning these high level skills, raising the bankroll and planning an international trip, only to apparently have some mysterious card counting doppleganger cramping your action(!).
😂 I know right!
Great video Unidentified Male 1183, always a banger when you upload
I love his videos but isnt that person who sent the profile working for the casino? Didnt he just expose himself? Im new here and worried he might have just "doxxed" himself towards that database.
The fact that they run that kind of surveillance on people and share it around really pisses me off! You've don't nothing wrong; you play the game within the established rules, and they still treat you like a criminal. What a fucking racket!
@@ABQSentinel Would be extremely illegal in the EU but the US has fuck all in the way of privacy rights.
@@XMysticHerox While I appreciate that many countries in the EU at least pretend to uphold your right to privacy, it's kind of hard to think it is little more than lip service when most if not all of the EU nations are part of The 14 Eyes (broad sweeping agreement between nations for participation in surveillance and signal monitoring).
@@ABQSentinel 14 eyes does not necessarily mean mass surveilance in those nations. Though you are correct that many EU nations almost certainly do employ it to some degree. Though definitely not to the same degree the US does.
However while also not great it is quite different to corporations doing so. The state usually has no reason to sell, share or even look at the collected information. For corporations it´s the opposite. The data they gather ends up everywhere and is extensively used.
Your level of patience is what got you out with the cash.
I would have lost my patience long before I got to the cash counter.
Yeah. Not only that, but he refused to accept their "easy solutions" that did not involve him getting his cash right then.
Card counting is not a cheat. He did not switching cards nor hiding cards. He’s just good at math 😆
that's exactly why they don't want you to play though. they just expect everyone to loose instead to win.
It's wild, it's literally simple addition and subtraction. You could teach a 6yr old how to count cards.
It's an amazing talent.
All you have to do is add +1 or -1, or if you're more sophisticated, also +2 or -2 sometimes. What's tough is finding a game where the rules are decent and the variations in deck makeup aren't smoothed out too much by the number of decks in a shoe. And most important of all is self-discipline, because you can have a very favorable deck an still lose 7 or 8 times in a row sometimes.
Yeah, well it may not be a cheap physically but they’ve definitely get pissed if you do that and they will throw you out
The best series on the Internet! Keep it up Steven!
Thank you!
@@stevenbridges great videos learning myself do you think your do a trip to Poland or Czech apparently they have good games and don’t use csms
@@stevenbridges the way you held your ground in such edged situations, makes me to take my hat off!
I don't know why this came up on my feed, but i watched it till the very end..
And i liked it!
Thank you, it was refreshing to see something else for once.
The algorithm really has blessed me with this awesome series. I even showed a couple of your videos to my dad (a retired pro poker player) and he got a good laugh out of it. He's seen his fair share of card counters and really respects that kind of courage
I love how in the end the casinos seemingly always give up because the employees don't actually care _that_ much, so at some point they just get sick of it and let you go.
its more like the senior employees realize its not legal and/or they cant get away with it, thats what it seems like.
I think it always comes down to the amount. Every time they push for ID at cash out the managers first question is 'how much' there definitely seems to be a line where its not worth the hassle to him. I'm guessing the closer you get to the 10k limit the harder that gets.
I mean legally they have the cash him out eventually, the supervisors just don't want a lawsuit over something this small
Even when the guy at the end is told by the cashier after she calls a supervisor, its only policy not a law, he pulls his jacket back to reveal the handcuffs on his belt. Some extra intimidation.
@@artistsimpression 10,000.01 is the threshold in one "gaming day" gaming day is decided by each casino as to when they open and close. if you are open 24 hours you have to tell the Gaming Commission when your day switches over.
As a casino security officer I can’t stand it when casino workers are this this aggressive. I have never denied a person to get their money in 2 years of doing this job.
Especially over these amounts. Like if someone really put the heat on and was betting $5k hands on a hot count and won $40k before getting backed off I could see it, but dude is trying to cash out $1k or $2k thats bizarre
Especially over these amounts. Like if someone really put the heat on and was betting $5k hands on a hot count and won $40k before getting backed off I could see it, but dude is trying to cash out $1k or $2k thats bizarre
That’s awesome! I have no interest in gambling or counting cards, but the fact that you know the law and stood up to the casino was great! Great story-telling!
He made it clear that he DIDN'T know the law and that he now knows that they COULD refuse to pay him directly without ID, that they'd then give him a receipt he could take to the gaming commission where to make want kind of complaint HE'D HAVE TO SHOW ID which would then be in the report and the casino would be shown that as part of the process of investigating his complaint.
@@commenter6722 Cool story
@@vkotis cool comeback
Thank you for standing up for your rights and the "human right" of not being forced to hand over your Personal Information to be collect and stored into a database.
Please keep exposing these casinos!! Appreciate the hard work you do.
19:30 - I wonder if it would be possibly to turn this around and ask them for a affidavit or at the very least a written letter by the manager that they would NOT share your information anywhere outside of that casino and see how they react to that? Could be interesting to push your luck here with this approach and see how they would react.
take it one step further, what if you then pull paperwork out drafted by a lawyer saying that they won't share your information. And asking them to sign that paperwork.
have form a triplicate, needs to be signed by casino. management, needs to be signed by the gaming commission, needs to be signed by surveillance.
This needs to be put online at all times by everybody.This will be a nice drawdown for casinos and good negative PR.
Everyone who legitimately goes to casinos knows they can be asked for ID and doesn't care. Most people aren't there to do something they know the casino is completely against their doing.
Anyone who gambles in a casino knows they're there to lose money and that the casino intends for them to lose money. Steven knows the casino doesn't want him there and that they're going to push back hard to remove him. He's not some innocent child being hassled. He knows he's not welcome and that he's going to be kicked out as soon as they recognize what he's doing. And no, what he's doing isn't illegal, and no, when they kick him out they're not doing anything illegal. In a few states they can't kick him out, but in those states they just immediately change the game so he can't make any money at it.
What he's doing is mostly driving from casino to casino so he can keep refusing to show ID for his TH-cam channel on not showing ID.
Normal people just show ID. Besides, he's actually at an amount of chips where I'm asked to show ID at my local casino and so is everyone else. Steven may claim they have to cash him out without ID for that amount, he may be right, but they have their own policies and rules and his idea that the state forbids them from establishing such policies and enforcing them is so far something the state regulators have not agreed with at least twice.
Plus how does Steven propose to enforce the law he claims makes their asking for ID illegal? Call the state regulators? Make a complaint? ANONYMOUSLY...?
They're going to ask for his name as well, and if he doesn't give his name they're very likely not going to investigate because there's no way for them to investigate a complaint from "anonymous" or to do anything about it if it even got to the point of wagging their finger at the casino.
Besides, Steven already got into at least one blowout with a state regulator and the state regulator WAS EVEN WORSE ABOUT IT THAN CASINO SECURITY! He even threatened to have Steven arrested.
Casinos don't want to play blackjack with card counters and they have the right to kick anyone out at any time that they want to. There are a few states where they can't stop counters from playing but they quickly change the game so there's no way to make any worthwhile money.
There's not a single addicted gambler who is going to do anything differently because of Steven's videos showing his I-won't-show-you-my-stinkin'-ID Performance Art. No one is surprised that we have to show ID for sky transaction over an amount I'm not going to list here but it's much lower than Steven thinks. And they'll ask every time in every casino I've ever been in at that amount or more. Steven is doing something he knows they ABSOLUTELY don't want him in there doing. He's only making himself more famous by creating these scenes and then putting them on TH-cam, but they'd make him famous anyway.
And no legitimate casino customer would be the slightest bit less likely to patronize casinos because of Steven's intense and successful efforts to make himself famous not showing ID or his humorous videos documenting his success.
you are a great story teller. i dont gamble but im there with you, and feeling every emotions when you tell it
Its admirable how calm you are/were at the check out desk. I would have been pissed an probobly started yelling.
That's exactly what they're expecting. If you cause a scene, that gives them probable cause to escalate the situation and actually get security to detain you. Staying calm but firm, and knowing your rights, is the only course of action in that situation. Assuming your goal is to cash out and walk away, of course
Yes Steven, smashing! You were almost poetic speaking to these brutes.Others would have thrown a tantrum.You do have courage to be defiant.
Practicing on a 6 deck shoe is great with
counting if you counted correctly your 2nd to last card will either be -1 or +1 and the last card will be Zero.
I get the jist.Come back and visit Steve.
Just had the sudden realisation that I've been watching you for i think over 8 years now. How far youve come! Your ability to stick with it and adapt is impressive.
Wow, thank you for sticking with me all this time!
Absolutely LOVE the fact you took that once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and went back in! xd
Glad you were able to cash out id-less. Been living in the Seattle area for 34 years and I will attest that your interaction with the police officer is pretty spot on. Generally if called to an unsavory situation the first interaction is intense but if you are able to calmly explain yourself with low tones and eye contact things will usually deescalate. Example: Richmond beach bonfire summer night early 2000's 15+ people and a cop shows up crashes the gathering and immediately starts the breathalyzer the group. We happened to be smoking weed and were able to bury most of it in the sand upon his arrival. After passing the breathalyzer the cop was super cool and asked me if I was going to bumbershoot (Seattle music/arts festival) this year and we chatted about local music for few moments.
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@@iceswallow7717 multi-national conglomerate corporation police state****
I would add to that, the casino staff probably lied to the cop about the nature of the stop, and that became immediately clear to the cop when this guy flat-out admitted everything.
Cops don't like to be "played", even if they are obligated financially to be on a certain side.
It is an unfortunate day when it is up to the citizen to de-escalate a situation with a police officer.
That's terrible, a police officer's first port of call should always be to de-escalate the situation. Riling up a civilian by making them feel threatened and ganged up on always leads to higher chances of an altercation. Maybe that's the point though...
you have become a legend among us dreaming of counting cards u proved it can be done if u focus and are always willing to learn more..... AND are willing to deal with bad situations
You did the absolutely right thing here. Whether they share it or not, hackers steal info to match to winnings. Glad you stood your ground.
I've always hated casions just because they look disgusting to look at (yes, the buildings themselves), but this series is making me despise them for what they are doing.
Good job Steven!
most disgusting thing here is the employees and their total lack of humanity
I despise casinos as well, never set foot in one yet. never gonna
I still go and play cents on the slot machines . it's one of the last few places in the US that allows me to smoke a good cigar inside 👍🏼. But I've never been comfortable gambling large amounts .
@@May-gr8bp you despise something you’ve never been in or experienced?
@@billrobertson5895 yes
Dude i came across a random 2016 video of yours like last week and immediately binged watched your stuff. super enjoyable mate. Im not a confrontational person so watching that exchange between you and the authorities is even stressing me out lol. kudos to you for being calm as hell.
Love your confidence, on top of who doesn’t enjoy seeing someone stand up to a bully? Whose trying to intimidate you, that successful intimidates others.
In Vegas, the ID check is to put your particulars in the "Griffen" exclusion book for card counters. They share this information with all the Vegas casinos, so they can jump on you and refuse to deal with you. I got in the book in 69 and was refused service in the old Castaways. So I play only with short periods of time and take a hike.
So they still have you in the registry 50+ years on?
@@BulkernatorKerb honestly I would believe it if he said yes
For anyone interested in knowing, I have a copy of Biometrica's Casino Live 6 and there is a function in the program called SIN notifications (surveillance information network). Essentially what it allows surveillance departments to do is document a report of incident, select from a scroll list of common problems notated in casinos, then issue a BOLO (be on the lookout) as an SIN notification. Then a list of casinos subscribed to the Biometrica program pull up and the casino can select from the list which casinos to notify. Surveillance officers then receive personal emails in some cases giving them the relevant case information and there you have it. That's how they communicate in 2023!
The reason they say it's a "business decision" is because that is legally the safest thing to say in that situation.
It's amazing how difficult the cashier cage has become. Casinos seem to forget that we are the customers.
We are the customers. They just don't want to give us money back. They want to keep it all
Well that's the most naive thing I have heard in a while.
They have to get his i.d to be compliant with title 31 the employee doesn’t really have a choice and neither really does the casino. That has to do with money laundering regulations. He should just provide his i.d. And move on or just not come into the casino in the first place.
@@duncanmacleod2136 has nothing to do with Title 31 and everything to do with trespassing and evicting suspected AP's.
@@Nubs1981 do you think that they got his I.d. A second time because they think he’s an advantage player and they want to evict him?? Why wouldn’t they ban him then. Security didn’t issue a ban. Why would they get his i.d. Then just say okay your free to leave. The reason they got his I.D. Is because he was close to title 31 thresholds which they ask for before the 10,000 like he mentioned. People always think that kind of stuff though because employees aren’t really supposed to talk openly about that they just tell the employees to refer people to the pamphlets for title 31 which all casinos are required to have.
This video was in my algorithms, and is 11 months old, subbed. I don't care about cards but I care about you.
Hey STEVE! You should definitly do a series 2 of this but in a country where casino laws and regulations are minimal, im sure that there's somewhere in the world where you could win tons of money with a bit of a lower profile. I hope this becomes your full time career as I find your vids extremely entertaining - which is odd as I know nothing about blackjack/card counting or ever go to casinos and I'm sure there are plenty other like me who just like watching your vids. Keep up the good work my guy!
Unfortunately, places like that are the sort of places they break your knee caps if you're caught unfortunately
@@matthewkent4313 thats a shame but high risk high reward
If you are ever convinced to show your ID to verify age you should immediately ask for the paper bracelet so if they approach again and ask for your ID & use "age confirmation" as the excuse,you can simply show the bracelet and avoid having your time wasted while trying to cash out...
Love the videos.
Keep up the good work.
Paper bracelets mean nothing. I work at a place for 21 & over peep. Even if they are wearing a paper bracelet we still ID people b4 they can drink or gamble (or just stand in a gaming area).. tbe "im not playing" answer means nothing. Under 21 people are not allowed to loiter in a gaming area
or you know, tell them that you've been playing blackjack for however many hours and ask if they let you do that while being unsure about your age
Same thing has happened to me more than once through the past 5-10 years this guy was 100% respectful and should receive an apology from the casino and be able to sue to, not following rules/law whatever those assholes call their own rules on their bosses’s property..
I can say since the start of this series.. its been my most anticipated watch on any platform/movie/show anything. Thank you for documenting your experience and teaching us
Wow that's an incredible compliment. Thank you!
@@stevenbridges No thank you! It's been a pleasure going back and watching your old content as well. Can't wait for the next videos!
So delighted for you that these videos have picked up real traction, Steven. The first few really struggled to pick up momentum but that didn't put you off from posting them and they're raking in the views that they rightfully deserve. Keep going, we love it!
Thank you! Yeah was a bit of a slow burn. I think the conflict heavy nature of the more recent ones helped for clicks, and many people went and binged the series. 😃
I use to LOVE Vegas......HATE it now, and this is just one of many reasons!!! Great video, thanks for sharing!!!
This was a great series. Don't know how I ended up on it during the TH-cam abyss of late night scrolling, but you earned a follower and a supporter of future projects. Well done, Unidentified Male 1183.
Thank you so much! 😃
As someone who has studied the gambling industry, I can tell you that casinos are extremely corrupt. They're no different than tobacco, pharmaceutical and fossil fuel industries.
Oh the shit i've heard of as a dealer. I guarantee money laundering happens often despite safety nets put in place.
@@Bladeofwar94 of course. When you have and hand out and count the money to society, who's the one counting yourst?
I'm pretty sure they're the favourite place for narcotic or sex trafficking money go to be cleaned.
You're agenda is obvious...so-called "green energy" industries are a fraud. You're likely one of those people who believe that electric comes from the wall outlet and hasn't a clue about how much human LIFE is dependent upon petroleum products. And no, I have no direct financial interest whatsoever in fossil fuel. Stop drinking the Koolaide, go watch Planet of the Humans and have a serious sit down with yourself.
@@qwmx That would be somewhere near Italy, we don't talk about that.
Give this man some likes! He should have just walked away, but is choosing to converse with the staff for our benefit or entertainment. I say that's pretty nice of him!
That second interaction is funny. I respect the girl for being honest(ish). She was nice about it at least.
Yeah she was nice! I respected her honesty and attitude
I've got no problem not ever going into any casino.
They're a form of insanity.
Yup. I grew up in a casino town and can confirm they ruin lives. I've never had the itch, only ever gambled in a casino once.
It's wealthy people playing low grade scams on poor people to take what little they have.
I do like when they use the term “advantaged player”, it’s honest and diplomatic without being accusatory
Card counting?! More like I was counting the days until the next episode.
Yeah, I'll show myself out.
😂
As a cage guy. Casinos hate winners, casino employees LOVE winners.
i dont get why people said casino employees loves winners. if the players won a lot of money, in other words taking a lot of money from the casinos, doesnt this mean that the casino employees has a risked of getting fired since the casinos are potentionally getting bankrupt and they cant pay the employees salary?
not that im against card counting or anything but i think casinos employees are neutral to winners, i wouldn't say they "love" winners
N nah, the winners tip big, so the employees love winners. The house loves to advertise winners, they encourage more play. Which means more losers.
I can’t wrap my head around the “no card-counting” rule. You’re allowed to look at all the face-up cards, so it’s a thought crime, based on suspicion alone. Surely. there are people who instinctively change their hit or stick decisions, based on the cards they’ve seen dealt…who don’t even know what they’re doing.
Great show man! Whether card counting is a success for you or not is irrelevant, the fact you're having these wild crazy adventures is worth so much more. So many people live dull, mundane lives where they risk nothing, experience nothing, to experience free adventure like you are really is a dream come true. Keep going bro, yolo
This is awesome. Found you through the most recent Mike Boyd video, and I've just binged your entire series. can't wait for more!
This is one of the most genuinely honest people I’ve ever watched on TH-cam. It’s so refreshing to hear someone speak when you know they’re just a good person at heart.
Nope. This guy is misrepresenting himself as a customer and illegally trespassing on private property in order to defraud a business. It's called scamming and it's very illegal when used to perpetuate both petty theft and grand theft. He's lying to the casino, the police, and the viewer and enjoying doing so.
@@justinlavine9209 You work for a casino or something?
I have to ask- as a magician, did you find yourself thinking "I wish I'd leaned more into mentalism than illusions" when you were confronted by the Police / security? Excellent series, looking forward to seeing more.
More that I wish I'd studied law for a bit so I could speak with more confidence in these situations ;)
He's not the droid they're looking for 😂
@@stevenbridges Just hypnotise them Steven... 😉
Mentalism isn't real though. It's just a facade to hide the trick.
A magician? He's not a magician. This guy is misrepresenting himself as a customer and illegally trespassing on private property in order to defraud a business. It's called scamming and it's very illegal when used to perpetuate both petty theft and grand theft. He's lying to the casino, the police, and the viewer and enjoying doing so.
I'm so happy that you may be able to go full-time youtube! You really deserve it after all your hard work with each video. All this card counting is so so interesting to learn about. Thank yoouuu :)
Thank you! 😃
I work in a casino, and I asked them how they tell if you’re counting cards. Apparently they look for patterns in how you bet.
Enjoyed the video, especially since I live in Washington State, and have played in every casino here. The majority of the "Indian" casinos use their own tribal police. With the exception of Quinault and Tulalip, the tribal casinos tend to have more customers in their casinos at any given time, then the total amount of their tribal population. Since their law enforcement budgets are huge, they spend a lot on hiring usually lateral or retired officers from other departments. Angel of the Winds, for example, has a total of 209 registered tribal members, where the casino has an average of 400 to 1000 guests at any given time. They employ 15 law enforcement police officers, they don't have a town, just brand new buildings and vehicles that are rarely used, and are usually empty. I've gotten id'd after winning "in a row jackpots" on slots, which is ridiculous, being there is no way to take advantage of a slot machine.
There are ways to hack slot machines, people have done it and gotten in trouble for it.
@@hzuiel Hi. Only on the older machines. The new ones can only be accessed through an internal eeprom chip.
Hello from an ex-washingtonian! Never got the chance to play at ilani, but i've played a handful of casinos in WA. Still want to hit ilani at some poimt, when I have the opportunity to visit friends and family again.
You have to show ID for jackpots above a certain amount. winning them in a row isn't a factor.
My friend rob is a card counter who lives in washington. You look almost identical to him, and he is banned pretty much everywhere in the state where he has to travel out of state to play. I wouldnt be suprised if you were be mistaken for him. Id love to send you a photo so you can see the face that was most likely causing you trouble. You two look like twins.
You need to ask them for their id’s when they ask for yours .. and tell them that their info will remain with you only so it’s safe. Will be fun to see their response.
I love how candid you are Steven! Definitely a fresh a breath air from other TH-camrs!
lol
I used to work for a big casino. Even staff get screwed over. Not allowed to accept tips over a certain amount or else you have to give it to the casino and they give you what you’re allowed to receive. And if a guest gifts you something like LV bag you have to turn it into management and same deal applies, you get what you’re allowed and they keep the bag. What you’re allowed is like $30.00.
That seems incredibly illegal?
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist nope. You sign paperwork allowing it when you start. It’s one of the cons. Ofcourse people can meet you outside of work but let’s be honest, who’s really that committed to tipping good service. I quit a few months in, overworked and under appreciated.
@@YoWhoDat
Well a contract can say anything it wants too, it does not mean its always legally enforceable.
Just like how non compete clauses are illegal most the time.
Whatever you sign is just that casinos policy. All casinos are different when it comes to tips and gifts. I've seen where security offers pool tips by shifting some places individually but they had to take it directly to the cage and receive a reciept for it later to be included on their check. As far as gifts I've observed employees receive Oakley sunglasses to gift cards. As long as it wasn't alcohol and the individual dept. does not have a policy against it they were allowed to keep it. That's over 21+ years of observation in the gaming business.
This is a blatant lie lol It’s illegal to withhold tips.
This is one of the best things on all of TH-cam! I really hope it becomes a possibility for this to become a semi regular thing
The best way to leave unsuspiciously from a hot casino is to turn 360 degrees and walk away.
360 degrees is the same direction 😂
@@javier4781 He just means walk away while spinning around 😃
720 degrees also works fine ;)
180
What, like do a spin then moonwalk out?
You’re a good negotiator. That’s a huge part of being good at this
-"Your name is gonna stay in the house, it's not gonna go anywhere"
-"Yeah, and the coke is not addictive"
"It's a business decision"--casino security lady looking like a sweet linebacker
"It's gonna stay in house"
I *totally* believe you, dude, 100%.
This is the casino I work at!! I’m a cashier here. I’m sorry you had this experience. We do NOT need Id to cash you out unless it exceeds 10000 dollars which yours did not.
"We're the only place for miles"
Sounds reasonable, it means sending the horses to all the other places for one single name would be a big hassle.
I loved the profile at the end and am so glad you included it.
I love how they keep saying "your information stays inside the house"
While in reality they shouldn't store your information anywhere.
Considering how something similar to this happened several videos ago, I'd believe there indeed actually is another card counter who looks quite similar to you, and who got themselves banned from pretty much all the major casinos in the area.
I work at a casino and yes they do share information they are constantly printing out ID info sheets from other casinos and put them on a cork board with a "look for these people" at the table games office.
Thank you so much for this series! Best content I've watched on TH-cam for years
This recounting of your experience is wildly interesting and entertaining, can't stop watching your videos!!
"...10 minutes ago?"
"Welp, I guess I came on shift 10 minutes ago idk, I'm just a microphone lady for camera overlords"
Former 911 call taker. The casino straight lied about you trespassing because otherwise the cops wouldn’t really show up, at least not until you were already gone. They know the police aren’t going to bother charging them with filing a false report for doing so.
Yup, they knew he was a counter so wanted to find a way for him to leave but it didn’t work. So they said fuc it let’s try to take his money but it doesn’t work so they kick him out
Brings me back to my AP days. Blackjack paid for college. I played full-time for a bit. Great video!