Does this go-anywhere traditional British cruiser suit you? Rustler 57 review - Yachting World
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- Toby Hodges sails and walks you through the reassuringly retro Rustler 57, a yacht which may cause you to re-evaluate what comfort is all about when cruising. Our full test report is in the December 2019 issue of Yachting World
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So many negative comments, you must all be yacht designers! This is a magnificent, classic, elegant piece of fabulous British yacht design and builders. It is the first 57 built and the layout was specified by the owners to suit their requirements. In the video the designer, Stephen Jones, is onboard checking everything out to ensure the boat is optimised. It's a proper sailing yacht so yes there will be trip hazards and rigging getting in the way, it's not a computer-generated, soulless, oven-baked plank of a push-button superyacht with everything hidden and so many complex systems that need a million pounds a year to keep working. An Oyster of similar size and price is a very contemporary design and not to everyone's taste, some owners still want a classic-looking yacht like the Rustler. This is a modern-day classic and should be applauded as there are very few boatbuilders left and most just churn out fat, twin-wheeled plastic bathtubs with stunted rigs and a swim platform. In the 2018 Golden Globe race the first 3 boats were Rustler 36s which have been in production since 1980. Princess Anne has owned and sailed a Rustler yacht for over 25 years. This beautiful yacht simply oozes craftmanship and quality and does not deserve all the negative criticism from armchair sailors, many from across the pond where some of the most hideous yachts ever built originate! If you want something to slag off then go look at the Island Packet SP cruiser. www.yachtingworld.com/reviews/boat-tests/rustler-57-review-traditional-british-cruiser
Each to their own, I guess. But presumably it was posted to entertain/inform others on TH-cam, and they're free to express their opinions, good or ill. Those who are not prepared for public criticism should not enter a public forum...
Ted thesailor Of course you’re quite correct Ted. And Donald Trump is a very intelligent man, successful in business, kind to women and has fabulous hair 😜
Wade Brown Yeah that SP is a fine example of an uncluttered deck and classic lines 😂
Of course the British designer Bill Dixon produced the most beautiful deck saloon in the Moody 45 DS which might tempt even the armchair critics to sea with it’s sliding roof!
@@Toob41 Dunno about that, but he's the President of the United States so I guess his pennant flies a good deal higher than yours...
I'm American and I agree with you .....To many lines on the deck....give me a break !!! are we sailing or driving a stink boat....(motor yacht) an island Packet doesn't compare to this fine yacht....If you want to take yrs to go around the world buy the Island Packet....lol. This yacht is much more versatile ,I would really enjoy all the sailing options this yacht would provide me....Just my opinion....
seriously, Tobby is a voice of trust.
I like that you pointed out a few points you don't feel optimal. This makes the rest less of a sales talk and more of a (more or less) genuine evaluation.
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Well done Stephen Jones & Rustler. I just need a big lottery win.
Solid, sturdy & conservative. The good thing about appearing dated at birth is this boat probably ages well especially with the build quality. Personally I prefer the more contemporary designs - clean decks and light minimalist interiors - but maybe they'll look dated soon while this boat will always be a bit of a classic someone turns to when they tire of fresh and modern. Excellent presentation by Toby - think he's the best I've seen at boat tours - thoughtful and concise with great delivery. Good balance of narrated boat shots and presenter talking to camera.
this is a boat and it looks like a boat ! that's how good i feel about it
Ja wat zal ik zeggen 🎉een top boot.
Best vessel I've seen so far on YW. Thank you, Toby.
Fits a full size 1990's mountain bike too. Nice!
Got a love them magnisium kirk's, should hold up well in that salt water 😂
Really old school line management in the cockpit
This is a Lovely Yacht. I saw a few ideas in the video I may incorporate into the upgrades to my, relativly inexpensive, Beneteau 43.4 Cyclades. Not expensive just good ideas that will improve living on board. I live onboard 3 months a year and spend time on the Swan 54 in the pen next to mine. Magnificent is the word I would use for the Swan.
Fun to see a review with proper weather. Several lately have been in puffs.
I Love Toby's calm measured delivery, and as to all those nautical terms......I haven't a Clew ;)
Love the cockpit set up.Would install a hard top over the CP.
Yes, that’d work just fine. 😎
I personally would prefer more balance between the common and private accommodation for a 57-footer. That huge open-plan galley/saloon area seems to be at odds with the cramped little kennels that are supposed to serve as guest cabins, but would be more fitting for crew. I think I'd feel just a wee bit guilty as I sprawled-out in my king-size bed forward, while friends squeezed into their little cots astern. Maybe the owner is making a statement like - "I'm the big dog, so don't forget it. Count yourselves lucky to have me as a friend and be thankful I even let you onboard..." In fact it looks like a corporate day-sailer, an interesting place to entertain for business, cruising around the coast while deals are thrashed out and contracts signed, before returning to port. A £1.5 million yacht and it's got storage for a bicycle? - that's amazing... I suppose it enables the guests to do errands...
Two headsails but still a fractional rigged sloop!
The versatility of both a cutter and a sloop, but does it have the drawbacks from both as well?
Magnificent. Contrary to a few of the wankers knocking well-proven tradition here, this boat holds its place well. A boat to fall in love with.
Beautiful boat. Very good looking on deck and below. I’d buy one.
A real boat for globe trotting ❤🎉
This and the elan GT6 are top of my wish list.
i have a camper nicholson 35 and this one feels like a big sister boat
Very handsome profile on this design. Objective review. I hope this design sells well. Many thanks.
Rustler has it almost the way I would want the winch placement right at the wheel it would be perfect if they split the winches right next to the wheel. One side for everything coming off the mast and the other side for the sails lowering and raising of all the sails . The option of a hardtop Dodger with the top of the Dodger just below the boom. I would prefer the Schaefer inboom main sail along with a separate track for a storm main sail. Inner forestay with the storm stay sail Genoa forward and then the fuller for the code zero. The aft end having the high end booms for the tender radar, wind generators and the solar panels. Would also like to have a wind powered auto pilot with its separate keep. But since I don't have any clout I probably wouldn't see any of my suggestions put into place. However if they did those suggestions you would have a happy solo or short handed crew running to the bank to buy one of their yacht's.
So many lines to trip over on the sides, cockpit full of oddly placed winches and lines too! There are so many other boats out there with more elegant and practical solutions. Interior is however lovely.
Twenty hours of layout on a bare deck could really clean the rigging up- or drive you back to redesign the sailplan.
give some such examples
All that glitters ain't gold , crossed the Atlantic 9n rustle 42 , in my top 3 of the yachts I've sailed ,
Awesome boat here.. I envy the owners and the experiences they'll have.. kudos..
Probably just me, but im not sure I understand the thinking behind their new flagship. I love traditional design but this looks a bit like a beefed up Hunter from the 90's.
At 6'4" I doubt I would fit inside this yacht, on top of that it really appears to be a yacht designed for a couple sailing with only very occasional friends and family sleeping on board, the deep helm is beautiful but comes at a cost of lost room below and the tripping hazard would always worry me. For this money there are other builders I would consider first.
Very nice! The only chance this ever works out for me is if my dodgy startup endeavors should work out, which is, well.... questionable.. 😅
This is my dream yacht, which unfortunately will remain a dream unless I have won the lotto. It’s well over a million quid.
after you won a lottery, after you got this boat , come back to invite all lottery looser here to have a ride
Rustler top boten.voor mij gebouwd, wel met furler grootzeil. 😊klassieke lijnen en indeling ,een boot waar je mee gaat stappen❤liefs de globe rond.alleen of met gasten .
I would expect a wet locker and a workshop area on a boat this size.
Very nice boat... A smaller cockpit and/or moved forward a bit, would have given a better configuration option; a main aft cabin...
Never seen him so excited
Watch the Spirit 111 video he can barely keep it in his pants
The same chant under every video
Wow, lovely boat, a question, as a cutter rig is the mast more centrally mounted and therefore balanced than the average none-cutter boat ?
Lovely classic interior, but I'd take a Discovery over this any day.
Beautiful boat. £1.3 million. Pricey, but very nice. Nice length.
I get the impression you're not greatly impressed? The sides and walk way looks cluttered.
I totally agree messy.
They are a bit cluttered I agree. I am a clumsy so and so and would be likely to end up tripping and getting an early bath.
Dit zijn ook boten om mee te cruisen ,rond de wereld echte zeilboten.geen havenboten😂❤
Is there only 2 cabins on this boat? I thought i heard there .were 3 cabins? Beautiful boat, great walkthrough tour
He only showed the starboard side aft. The port side you get a glimpse of when showing the aft galley area and the washer under the companion way.
Toby, what are your thoughts about the ability to add a wind vane to this yacht if desired vis-a-vis the swim platform? For long distance cruising /passage making wouldn’t a mechanical back up to an electronic AP be prudent? Thank you.
Did i miss the galley review?
Well, that's one of a beauty. State of art 💜
Самая крутая 57 футовая лодка, которую я видел...
❤
Too big for me I fear, but it's a beauty. I'd go for something more around a 32-44' at most.
think it go-any-where , little bigger is better,
Don't like engine being difficult to access
Long keel, skeg hung rudder and a single helm. One of few true blue water boats left. This is the sort of boat you'd take on a circumnavigation.
I can live with it, but I would definitely make some changes throughout the vessel.
What! No bow thruster. How old school is that?
There are more scenarios where good docking skills compensate for lack of a bow thruster, than scenarios where a bow thruster will compensate for poor docking skills. Marine harmony on TH-cam demonstrates nicely.
Beautifull lines !
Would it be realistic of me to ask that a walk-through of the, 58m, Royal Huisman's, Ngoni take place? It is presently berthed in Corfu, Greece.
Just wondering if it's a practical world cruiser?
It's really too bad that this boat is such a huge compromise. You get Rustler's craftsmanship and attention to detail, and a really strong, well-made boat, but for those things you have to accept a cluttered cockpit, cluttered deck and a 1980s volume/LOA ratio. I'd love to see what Rustler could put out if they let their artisans and craftsmen build a modern yacht.
I prefer these kinds of boats. The problem with modern boats which rely heavily on form stability, is that they're affected much more by waves. As soon as it gets choppy, you start being battered around. There's no replacement for good old-fashioned ballast, and a hostile seascape will teach you that in no time at all.
These older forms have less space, but in my view that's no bad thing. How much space do you need really? If you've decided to live on a boat, you've already decided to live with fewer possessions.
@@phillycheesetake I've done open ocean passages in old hull forms and new. The stability and motion of the newer hulls is, in my experience, just as seaworthy and liveable as the old.
@@ecmo11 OK, well form stability and form drag are related concepts then. I wasn't making a comment about the seaworthiness of newer hulls.
I have no understanding why in mast furling is a thing. In boom seems in every way the best way to furl a main sail. Please give any reason otherwise.
Love these video and seems like a beautiful boat.
I understand this boat as a “v-boon” for flaking.
Honestly, doesn't the foretriangle seem a bit high aspect compared to a traditional cutter?
That area on the inside where the windows go, that wall area, looks like they could have made that look less raw.
That looks like a very nice ship.
Everyone loves the new catamarans. It’s a good thing these “affordable monohulls” will be around for years.
I’d say wait ten years for this used one.
Having only one double bed on a boat this size is a total bust, as is the lounge table on the R44DS, which has room for 4 people.
crazy layout
We will take one
Oh my I love it….
Love it.
Very nice boat!
Its a though world for traditional boatbuilders these days,look at nauticat,they loose the battle last year,with the costs of working hours,the building of high quality yachts for lets say the normal market is almost impossible.
Just the high end ( abramovitch en co boats) and the baked bathtubs with flashy layouts will survive.
I will stick with Discovery, thanks. Rustlers are nice but the rigging needs a rework. Too many hazards on deck.
And when raining or much more?
This is not a boat for begginers or a weekend, this a long cruise boat and it is all about sailing around the seven seas! Not for me yet. All the best tês for the video!
Lousy placement for the shore power connections.
I would also argue to many lines on the side deck...
its like the owner picked every sail option that cost money - or got in the way.
otherwise beautiful!
skeg rudder - good job!
I'll take two thanks.
I wish I could get my wife into sailing. I tried it in an oblique fashion by taking my daughter for lessons, hoping that her excitement would rub off on the other female in my household. I failed. It is a bad idea to pin your hopes to a 13 year old girl
do you have any married friends that sail?
@@ant2011 no. I have friends who sail, but no couples I know. I live a couple hours from the water so not many people have anything more than a fishing boat
Be thankful. it's your floating mancave, your private bloke's bolthole when there's stormy weather at home, somewhere you can escape to and indulge yourself without her judgmental finger-wagging and tut-tutting, and ultimately a place where you can take yer bit on the side...
I cant rearly see much difference inside to other english boats... I still miss see some new...
very 90's
Compare this one with the Amel 50 for me, will ya? Then I can make up my mind better.
i think the Amel is easier for shorthanded sailing, & her bow thruster helps especially in some very tight Mediterranean ports.
@@larspardo4309 Per The Rustler 57 brochure: "An RT250 8kW 24V swing retracting bow thruster producing 10hp is fitted under the fwd cabin berth. The bowthruster runs off the main service bank and has its own isolator switch located in the forward cabin."
@André Nope, more like oranges and tangerines.
I envy you if you can actually think about such a comparison :)
@@MattBargain Thanks. I can actually.
Exterior is obsolete and very poorly laid out for rigging and single handed operations. Designer have solved the rigging and line handling years ago - but none of that seems to be here.
The owner appears to have asked them to de-engineer this boat throughout. All the wood is lovely, but wood won’t sail your boat for you.
He seemed to be struggling to say nice things about essential elements that he should have been gushing over. Traditional and nice wood is very 40 years ago. They should have designed a 2020 boat, not a 1975 boat....
Actually a sheer bow is less hobby horse than this. Lovely motion in light seas only.
He doesn't really like it, nor do I. Vert diplomatic about it though, pro...
yeah, that was my impression too, and was just about to comment when I saw yours.
There are appealing aspects around the cockpit and lazarettes, but as soon as you move forward it gets tricky, with a lot of obstacles to negotiate, and the feeling that only the very experienced sailors would risk going forward without wearing a lifey!
Not true. when see his other videos you would say he likes this one most of all
@@HarryStucklermendotcom That's the message that he's there for or expected to convey. I just don't think he does that very well for the reasons that I gave.
Why such a low freeboard in such a large yacht?
Too many trip hazards on deck.
Prefer masthead forestay.
Those angled shrouds, horrible.
How is the maintenance on the timber on deck?
Do you have an electric boom vang?
Call me old-fashioned, but I preferred the County class.
Wow
Take the Oyster any day
Ahh....... I happen to sail the great grandfather of this boat. A twister. If i had a spare 1.3 million I would probably....... Nah she's too big. I'd keep my twister :-)
"Does this go-anywhere traditional British cruiser suit you?" No. Too big. Also, I like a sail plan that's broken up a bit more. A yawl, ketch or even a cutter, if small enough, would suit me better, as I would be like to be able to single-hand the thing.
It's reasonably good-looking, though.
It is cutter rigged.
@@normand5847 It has a staysail, but its mast looks to me as though it is positioned at or foreward of 1/3 of the waterline length, from the cutwater, which would make it a sloop according to the definition that I know.
@@OgamiItto70 I don't believe any yards are building a traditional cutter with the mast near center of the hull. It is a modern cutter. At 8:04 he mentions that it is a cutter rig, which Rustler prefer to do. The stay sail isn't meant for only going upwind or for heavy weather. The sail plan is designed for all three sails to fly the majority of the time.
@@normand5847 Perhaps I'm not modern enough, then...
I offer myself to these comments as a non-sailor outsider with nothing of merit to say except: SOOOO PRETTY. I’m like a child pointing at another child’s toy: Sooooo pretty. ME ME I want it. Gimme it. Okay. Nerd hour is over. Back to cheaper dreams. Sigh.
Keel/ballast encapsulated, or bolted?
dream
Bin der Meinung nur ein genügend großes und luxuriöses Schiff wie dieses, macht Langstreckensegeln zu einem Vergnügen, immerhin ist das ein Lebensraum für eine lange Zeit. Denn nur so kann das harte Leben auf dem offenen Ozean einigermaßen erträglich gestaltet werden. Denn Platz, lange Betten, ordentliche Duschen, Heizung od Klimaanlagen sind m.E unverzichtbar, besonders dann, wenn man keine 20 mehr ist.
Nice galley.
Are you the Brother from Frodo? 😁
i wil never go for a reefing main as well since one day i was sailing the main wouldnt go out ! very dangerous !
My bank manager prefers my 1969 Bowman 26...
May I ask please what size sailing boat for a new wannaby? I am 64 so dont have the time to start too small but would be happy to employ a skipper for 12 months.
@@dreworoirden7675 Hi Drew, I think in your position I'd consider having a chat with a few brokers and go see some boats, depends very much on your budget & whether you plan to sail with others or on your own. But before you buy a yacht you can charter one for a week or two somewhere nice (Caribbean or mediterranean?), you can charter a boat with or without a skipper. Good luck & enjoy...
Sailing Rona Bowman many thanks for replying. With men its a p#ssing contest. Get the biggest you can lol. So thought I would ask a lady sailor. Have found a broker called David Seal in Monaco and Antibe so will have a chat about a charter. Still think I would hire a skipper to pass on their skills. Fair winds and safe passage.
@@dreworoirden7675 I would consider the length of the average waves where you intend to sail her. An over simplification: around 50' sailing short becomes systems dependent: 30' is great when coastlines are kept in site: 40' makes a passage far more pleasant.
Who will be with you? Where are you going? What is your budget? On the last I try to get as close to reality as I can, but like to leave a 200% error margin: meaning even if it gets bad i am still quite ok.
Good luck & keep asking great questions & enjoy your journey sir.
Nice size but really crapy overall layout!!
Has anyone answered "no"? 😁
57 feet though......too big for a couple and too small for a crew.
$500K.. Maybe $1.3M ? Not in as many years.
I noticed it has a SS swivel and SS chain , probably 316 , very bad and dangerous, if it is going to be used in warm Caribbean waters .
Gas locker on side deck will most likely fill with water .
How many peanuts ??????
I sometimes envy what world you guys live in, but not for long
My 41 yr old single skin 365 would blow the doors off that thing in 15 knots, and she isnt fast
I do like the teak cap/toe rail and the fixed dodger reminiscent of Swedish boats
side decks are narrower than mine, but ok its workable
lose the dorades, there are too many tripping points
agree about single line reefing
Engine access sucks against what it could be if it opened right up, but the location is a worthwhile experiment if you dont have to work on your own engine. Get that cabinet right off the top of it so I can see what is really going on and not need the acrobatics of a monkey to get a good look around quckly.
The saloon is gigantic, but I think I would miss more intimate conversation, its as welcome as a German cinema
The jib ought be club footed and self tending, after all this isnt a racing boat
the yankee looks like it wont go through on its own, maybe it should be higher cut unless it does.
I like that they didnt piss about with collapsing cleats on the rail, its just an example of honesty and realism
Likewise the dinghy
the panels and electrics look good idea, the nav is the right way around,
but flip lids are truly a pita, have a drawer that sides to centre, then all my kit doesn't swish off the table
I generally like YW reviews, they're kind of the standard and without fuss and needless BS
I just ask that realistically, is this where the market is, is this where you want to be?
thats my counter review..
have fun with your lives, I know I do ...
SV Zaya after all nothing meets Swedish boats when you actually want to go sailing ⛵️
I want one please, please and a cherry 🍒
Nice, but not my cup of tea.
Horrible place for shore power, don’t you think?
I am sure the craftsmanship is amazing but it just dose not do anything for me. For the price ans size There is in my view better out there
Obscene to buy this size and type boat... wish they would do smaller boats.
Price?
If you need to ask you can not afford it.
How much is that?
around 4 million € probably :- 1
I agree with spike. No big revelation. I think that the French might actually be better at this than the Brits.