If anybody is wondering why there are no revolvers on this list, I split them into a seperate video for time purposes. You can find that here: th-cam.com/video/hQN0QCvM1pk/w-d-xo.html
i was wondering where the Taigan was, i overuse it when it comes to pyromania stacks, idk if you can tell but i like pyromania stacks, with the projectile system launch.
I think the headshot swap feature on La Chingona is to encourage swapping between both Chingonas in combat rather than only using one, to imitate a double handguns style
they missed the chance of adding an Akimbo perk if u have both pistols equipped... sliding and dashing around NC while dual wielding jackito pistols would probably be *chef´s kiss*
Fingers crossed they somehow add an akimbo system in the very last patch. They said they were going to implement some gameplay features people have wanted for awhile. But I’ve got my money on cosmetic car and cyberware customization, if anything. Akimbo seems pretty crazy to add at this late date.
@@quantumphayer not a perk, they should have made Akimbo its unique modifier alongside with a smart weapon like aim mode where V follows enemy movement with the gun. now that would make them Iconic...
Even though Malorian is not the best, but I still end up using it the most ‘cause it’s felt so good when reloading and the impact and sound is so damn satisfying!!
The Malorian is awesome but I really wish they added the lore that it actually has some of the real Johnny’s incredibly angry personality bouncing around it’s wiring, like in the ttrpg. I guess it’s because it was chipped to his cyber-arm for so long that while Johnny was having cyberpsycho episodes his neural info would leak into it through the personal link. It would be pretty cool if you got some ghostly, angry voice lines after like, getting a nice headshot or taking out a bunch of corpos in quick succession. Hit an Arasaka agent with the secondary fire? “Time to buuurn, Corporat.” That would be fun. I wonder if there’s enough Johnny voice lines in the game to do something like that with mods? Way beyond me anyway.
Tamayura is so good for stealth builds; I found little reason to use Her Majesty when I got her because I already had a 4-slot T5 Tamayura that more reliably 1-tapped heads.
@@thomgizziz Well the legendary silencer does guaranteed crit hits on stealth headshots, the tamayura has armor pen, its base damage is higher and it can fit a pox and equalizer. I'd say those are some pretty big benefits to give it a higher damage potential. Ofcourse this still loses to pride, but everything loses to pride in stealth while you can run a modded nue/tamayura much earlier.
To be fair, aside from the elite heavies and bosses, you pretty much can take one shot everyone with a maxed out silenced pistol. I'm one or at worst two tapping everyone with seraph for the most part and I'm not even fully specced for pistols.
@@thomgizzizyou're wrong because mods exist for base weapons... also her majesty is more clunky to use, basically requiring that optical camo perk and for you to be crouch sprinting while shooting. the tamayura is more consistent and easier to land as long as you are patient with your shots
I'm surprised the Death and Taxes is ranked this low. I think it's one of the best stealth pistols in the game once you get the your sandevistan and correctly perking the cool tree. It does double damage to the head because of the burst.
Death and Taxes is okay. It does hit twice but that doesn't mean that it doubles the damage of other guns... because it doesn't. A good stealth build will get you average hits of just over 2k with death and taxes where as better guns are in the 3-4k+ range. And that is the difference from one shotting dudes on very hard. If you aren't playing very hard then I can see your argument and it makes sense but even on hard it starts to fall off.
@@thomgizziz No I always play on very hard and death and Taxes is probably one of my most reliable handguns for stealth kills. I'm saying it's basically double damage per burst not shot.
Seraph was my signature weapon in 1.6, back when ricochet was worth doing. Now, with no ricochet on it in 2.0+, while also not activating pyromania, it's a crying shame. However, using it as a silenced weapon is a fun time and still feels good, despite being sad about it.
Before 2.0 there used to be this quirk with the Kenshin Takemura leaves with you after the two of you escape the Troy which allowed you to upgrade it to have insane DPS. Most often I would use it through almost the entire game. If that quirk still existed in 2.0 it would have easily put it on par with some if the best tech iconics since it'd be allowed to use mods. Wish they had maybe turned it into an Xmod model instead of just a regular Kenshin, honestly. One of the most deadly bodyguards on the entire planet would surely have some kind of unique iron.
I never use charged shots with Lizzie unless someone is bugged under the ground but the hipfire normal shots are just insane, I love this gun so much. One shots all non skull ennemies with headshots
How to make the malorian amazing: wall piercing, wall piercing has no damage drop off 20% of its damage is thermal, is affected by both lvl 20 cool perks and has 200% headshot multiplier
Hi Sam, I've had a good time combining Her Majesty, Camo, Sandevistan, and Axolotl. Tier 5 handyman to enable a better scope than default sights and bonus crit damage. You get the crit bonuses from Camo, time to aim from Sandy (which I prefer to kerenzikov to allow Deadeye and Focus to trigger for more damage) and kills with Axolotl help speed up the recharge for both Sandy and Camo. It's a bit specific, but makes it super punchy.
Lizzie + Chain Lightning (from Tech skilltree) just _OBLITERATES_ in open combat better than *any other pistol.* It is not remotely close. Make sure you take the Bolt shot perk that allows for Bolt shots to ignore armour and enjoy. 😈
You need to try Seraph with a legendary suppressor on it. It’s easily the best stealth pistol ever, especially when you upgrade it one or two times. It uses explosive rounds but won’t alert enemies if you have a suppressor on it. It’s OP af.
Another Genjiro can also be found during the parade mission (play it safe if i remember right) behind a locked door i need to pass a technical ability check in order to get in.
Dying Night is my endgame stealth pistol, because the arbitrary slowing of the firerate on unity/liberty pisses me off to no end. You should be able to fire it as fast as any cz75, on which it's based
I'd put death and taxes a little higher myself, it's one of best stealth pistols on very hard imo, the only one that can easily 1 shot enemies very early in the game (and with a very good maxed out build, it's still one of the best guns in full on combat if you go for headshots). I'd certainly put it higher than cheetah which hyped me up at first but i ended up losing less health 1/2-shotting enemies with d&t than trying to land multiple consecutive shots with the cheetah while getting shot at from all directions. You can actually use both chingonas effectively specifically because of its passive, basically allowing you to skip reloads altogether if you can land consistent headshots, all while packing serious punch.
It’s a real shame that this video was edited before the most recent update involving Johnny’s pistol cause now it’s easily in the top 5’s with an increased damage amount of 110, a higher reload speed and increased quick attack damage It’s one of the most powerful guns I can use, even beating out the best revolver in the game.
@@lexsteele2218 cause if it’s only a 9 with the massive buff it just received then it must be before that update, like seriously the new malorian is so much more powerful. Plus the stats screen he showed has its pre update numbers
What about Ol'Reliable greater chance of headshot crit+damage% the farther you are max of 35 meters Base damage 114 +Headshot crit max 35% bonus +max 42% bonus headshot damage + 50% base bonus crit chance +10% effective range and a temporary swap bonus
Curious if this masterful list will change at all after 2.1 release next week. Looks like the two vehicle lists will need updates after that patch as well, Sam Bram may be busy for a bit. :)
I used it throughout my cool playthrough, and loved it, BUT it's extremely mediocre tbh. it's about on the same level as a normal revolver, but less damage and more boolets, and slower reload. It's omega shafted by the fact you can't put mods on uniques anymore. I'd love malorian with explosive chimera bullets
The Malorian still is great at head to head combat Doing a Johnny "Kick the door down" build of exclusively using handguns and being as un-stealthy as possible, the Malorian is actually pretty good, especially when backup up by a revolver
Doing something similar right now but I made my nomad character like Arnold from T2, no need to stealth just big ass shotgun and lmg to obliterate everything
I think not going with 20 cool is a major mistake, it *really* makes a lot of pistols crazy cause of 0 recoil, you can get a consistent full lexington mag into someone's head with it
I agree. I also love to use the Kenshin on Hip Fire and when extra AoE is needed, Bolt. It´s really powerful with the perks and beats the Omaha easily. A Barghest Lexington Full Auto is also a very nice thing to use...esspecially with the Iconic Power Weapon Mod.
The only pistol that doesn't require Cool 20 (in fact - doesn't require it at all) is the Seraph with cyberdeck build. Cast Contagion, pew pew from Seraph. Boom. Moving on.
I think a large aspect you overlooked with Death & Taxes is the 2-round burst now. Due to the nature of bursts during Sandevistan, both rounds shoot out un-slowed while everything else is, practically guaranteeing two critical headshots with a single pull of the trigger. It's my go-to stealth pistol over Her Majesty.
Same it's definitely slept on. It's ridiculously good with the sandy, add a tier 5 suppressor for the guaranteed crits undetected and it's a beast. From my experience only pride has it beat in raw damage output.
Plan B shoots ''just'' around 10K to 15K in a full play trough. Using Plan B does not ''burn your wallet'' since you can get that money fairly easy. In fact it gives you basically infinite ammo and bleeding changes. Plan B is below avarage I'd say. Should be ranked somewhere in low-middle (above Kongou). Tamayura should be ranked higher, its the best non-iconic pistol for stealth builds with the highest base damage of all pistols and a higher headshot multiplier than the Nue. Should be around where the Chao is personally.
@@lexsteele2218the wepon vendor at the far side of Dogtown sells it. If not, rewind 24h and try again. Also airdrops in Dogtown. I've got a tier 5++ with 2 empty mods. Combined with two pax I get around 3-4K DMG per headshot on hardest, of course at stealth play. Of course cyberware and perks have to be at max too, but nothing gets close to tamayura!
I agree the kongou should be above the plan b. Mainly because of the, technically infinite ammo from the crafting. Which kind of negates the plan bs using a different ammo type.
Hard disagree. Tech weapons have a damage penalty when piercing cover. Power weapon ricochets do not. Kongou ricochets have a ridiculously generous auto-lock angle, and you can test it yourself. Almost 3-4 times as much as a regular power weapon. It is easily one of the best early game handguns in the game because of this. The bullets feel like they're literally bending around corners to auto-target enemies.
You can also get Genjiroh during the parade mission while traveling along the catwalks, taking out the snipers. It's in a supply room between the first and second sniper, just before you climb up a ladder and cross a skybridge.
Only during this mission? I followed another guide that said it was supposed to be behind a gate in a small room with a doorcode that could be entered to open the gate. The gun was not there for me. I haven't started the mission so maybe that is required first?
Pariah robbed. ROBBED. Its the only stealth pistol pre-pride that can 1 shot elites and it can make use of bolt perks, the one weapon perk tree with the least number of required perks to use at max efficiency. Its only used less than Her Majesty because its ending locked. Sigh, at least Lizzie was judged justly.
The malorian with sandevistan is just art, especially with a very high level one. You feel like quicksilver just casually strolling around combat putting in perfect headshots
Seraph is one damn good pistol. the burn and explosive damage is able to kill skull level enemies with 2 bullets, aimed at the head. plus the gun has 14 mag. and the explosive rounds effect the near by enemies by knocking them out, giving you time to avoid getting shot at. I would say Seraph should be in top 5.
@@maskedman5657We all love Seraph for a reason. Pair it with a legendary suppressor and it’s the ultimate stealth pistol. Nothing else compares to it tbh.
YES you're doing my favourite type of weapon in cyberpunk 2077 and my main reason for liking the pistols is because of the unique designs on all of the guns. And Sam thank you for doing all for your cyberpunk content it's nice to know that there's someone out there that loves this game just as much as I do.❤
If you pick both Dorada guns and use them together they will reload each other after switching. So lets say you only equip the 2 Dorada's when one it empty you switch to the other and therefore you have endless ammo.
I surprised the Chaos is so high on this list. I guess im not a big fan of two short burst weapons. I much better preferred the Chaos before the update when it was 3 shot.
I agree, I got it on my new 2.0 playthrough, used it for one firefight, never used it again. Not because it was bad, but I already had weapons that were better, in part because I finished everything in Watson before doing that mission
I've never actually used the Chaos. I picked it up when I did that mission, and I stuck it in my armory almost immediately. The concept sounds interesting and i was even considering using yesterday when i saw it in my armory, but now hearing that it's been nerfed i don't think I will.
For stealth now that they actually put a silencer on it in the last update, the Mancinella is BY FAR the best stealth weapon in the game. If you use a Sandevistan the stealth bonus stays active for the entirety of an engagement because of the gun's special perk and with the Axolotl recharging your Sandy you can kill an entire group of enemies in one go easily. I actually just got rid of all my stealth perks and put them into other stuff because of how good the Mancinella is with a Sandy.
@@YardoIt’s cool that they fixed the gun but I’ve just never like the look of the Nova, the lines are just weird. Personally, I’ve never found a better gun for stealth than a random legendary Nue with two mod slots. I’ll give the Mancinella another try though.
I think it’s great to use hip firing in optical camo, especially when you get all the pistol perks, till when hip firing is basically better than aiming if you land the shots well, honestly the ranking should change dramatically if you have both 20 Cool pistol perks.
If you have the final pistol perk, hip fired shots always do full damage, combine with with crouch sprinting optical camo and axolotl, maybe the level 60 headhunter perk, and you're a one man assassination squad
Honestly I think Seraph is majorly underestimated. The fact you can equip it with a scope and silencer in addition to having explosive rounds that set some enemies on fire makes it my go to stealth weapon.
Dying night is my go-to pistol for my John Wick, Gun-fo inspirered build. It's damn fun to go into melee range with Dying night. Plus, it works just as well on auto-fire as with single shot.
Not maxing out Cool means you don't get the capstone skill for pistols though and it's a pretty defining skill. As long as you hipfire you can ignore stamina entirely, have perfect accurary, and bonus headshot damage. On top of that you get whatever else bonuses from other perks related to deadeye infinitely. This benefits some pistols more than others and anyone making a pistol build will take it into account. Personally, I think the capstone perks should be switched between pistols and revolvers but that's neither here nor there.
I feel the capstone's should effect all weapons but if not they should have Johnny's malorian be the only pistol effected by both just to make it pretty darn go
For the purposes of this list does it really matter? Pistols only receive the hip fire and movement speed buffs, and personally i never hip fire, so I only benefit from the movement speed (which can be helpful in stealth when crouched, sure). Sometimes I don't even use that perk because it honestly isnt that great for a capstone. The revolver perk is insane though. But for the purpose of ranking pistols specifically, maxing out cool doesn't really make a difference.
@@mossicely in my experience it really does. High fire rate pistols like the Lexington really benefits from it a lot more than others. Infinite stamina, high fire rate, and perfect accuracy means you can be a lot more in your face and spam headshots instead of being stealthy. Obviously if you don't hip fire then it doesn't matter but the whole point IS to hipfire and get close.
La Chingona Dorada or Pride are FARR better stealth guns than her majesty, if you use t5 silencers. those silencers are quite rare but both are possible to acquire. for stealth head shots i managed to go up to 2.5k for La Chingona Dorada , and over 4.2k for Pride.
For Her Majesty's Optical Camo buffs I think they want you to actively use the Optical Camo instead of just spamming Vanishing Act, so they want you to max out Headhunter to get that 15% Optical Camo recharge per kill during Focus or Deadeye, you can combine that with Axolotl for 25-26% Optical Camo charge per kill for essentially infinite invisibility.
I imagine they let you pick up both La Chingona Doradas to basically have you cycle between the two, giving you infinite ammo indefinitely, provided that you're a good shot and can keep hitting those headshots.
In Cyberpunk i am more of a shotgun person. It is so satisfieing being able to send enemies fly over the room a few meters and see their health just melt. Looking forward to watch your top of the best shotguns. I did start a new game now with the dlc instaled, but have not realy had time to experience the game that much. I have 170 hours into the game, mostly with update 1.6 and just a few hours with update 2.0. Prety good i have to say.
Death and Taxes + Cocktail Stick + Neurotoxin Knife (in anodized pink obv) makes for a great girlbossing loadout (and is actually pretty fuckin good and really fun to play around for stealth)
@@thomgizziz no bruh. It's girlbossing because Death and Taxes literally belongs to a woman in a power role, and Cocktail Stick belonged to one of the only people in Night City trying to take control of their own life back from their abusers. Lmao. The pink knife just fits better with the iconics than any other throwable option.
I found lexington x mod silenced with firecracker and 30% armor pen mod attached is the best stealth gameplay pistol. Even better than her majesty and rook. You can argue about Pride silenced is the best weapon but if you miss head shot the high fire rate makes up for the missed shot for lexington. But pride + headhunter knife is best weapon combo rotation amongst any weapon in the game no doubt.
I completely agree that Pride is #1. That gun is insane. I really like the Lizzie in 1.6 but I thought it was kind of crappy in 2.0 but I didn't use it much at all, so maybe I was too quick to judge it. Still, once I got the Pride, I didn't use anything else except for snipers at long distance or katanas for boss fights.
Lizzy is great at the time it becomes available, for any any type of built, but it's damage output falls off too much by the end game, and there are better options at that point, especially when doing a built designed around pistols.
It's insane to me that he ranked the Ambition and Pariah lower than the Lizzie. Both have better range, the blind effect on the Ambition gives you great CC and the Pariah when fully charged deals 3 shot damage in basically one shot, with zero recoil and good range on it. On top of that it is silenced.
Pride has 420% when you are at full health and you should be at full health almost 100% of the time and it has double the base damage... Base damage is a big deal if you are looking to do stealth pistol builds.
I think you underrated Plan B, it has a higher than normal headshot multiplier at 200%, so it's been really good for my stealth build which also trivializes the cost per shot mechanic. Also you can get it right after the heist so if you need a decent pistol it's available pretty early on. I wouldn't want it in a stand-up fight but for popping heads it's seriously underrated.
it's honestly really disappointing that both early game Liberty iconics you get are so disappoining, both Kongou and Plan B have fantastic appearances, but neither of them really cut the mustard (you're seriously better off just using Nehan for stealth kills during the heist, or it and Satori or an AR if you're going out guns blazing, than Kongou). At least Seraph and Pride make up for it, mainly Pride.
@@thomgizziz "for a gun that is that slow." You keep saying this in multiple comments. Plan B has one of the fastest firing rates for a semi-auto handgun in the game. It's over twice that of a Nue/Tamayura. It's nearly twice that of the Unity/Liberty. How in the hell is that "slow"?
Pariah is my absolute favourite. Speccing into the tech weapon tree and stealth makes it a monster, and the bonus charge and reload time on headshots make it devastatingly effective both at open combat and quick stealth chain kills
Ricochet is honestly really useful when you want to fire from cover. It shows where they are behind walls if you line up the ricochet correctly, and it’s a decent way to counter the annoying ass sandevistan having gangoons.
Come up on a group of enemies, activate optical camo at the same time as a sandevistan, then use Her Majesty to wipe out the whole group before optical camo is up. Newton module + Apogee helps a lot too by making infinite sandy time.
the best gun for the shooting range mission = SKIPPY, has 30 ammo + smart targeting = speed unload 2 mags and you win before its even half way thru lolz cheezy mode no aiming required thanks skippy -d even on passive or head shot mode either works for target range shootin
Patch 2.1 will introduce an option to enable a centered dot on the screen (helps with motionsickness). Solves all optical camo problems. I usually use mods for this, CP2077s iron sights are all incredibly bad, I never use them.
You ever get the feeling CDPR is poking a bit of fun at Bethesda? The vendor guns and a few others looking like toys, a definite reminder of the upgradable water pistol and acid soaker. I have not downloaded Phantom Liberty yet, but I have watched a lot about it and some areas and containers make me feel like it's Boston 2277 or thereabouts plus or minus a few dings to the old chronometer.
Seraph was a monster beast in my experience. If we're talking pistols I want a nice all arounder but with some above average punch and seraph fits the bill! It's a good sidearm if you aren't specifically specced into pistols all the way. I think it counts as firing explosive bullets too for the explosive damage percentage buffs you get on cyber but will have to double check that. Anyway it was doing hard work for me! Plus it's just a thing of beauty, let's be honest! Gotta admit the Valentinos have style! I noticed that some guns benefit way more from the pistol perks and others that may not have as much potential can be better "out of the box" if you will. So if you arent specifically a pistolier having a nice all around handgun with good accuracy, range, and punch might be more useful to you than one that requires 15-20 in cool to be the "best".
You CAN actually buy the Tamayura from a vendor- He's in Dogtown- A weapon vendor just next to the "Moth" bar. He sells ALOT of Arasaka weaponry, like the Nowaki for example
I think you're severely undervaluing Kongou. It's a fantastic stealth pistol cause of it's fast fire speed. Maybe it doesn't have quite as high damage single shot as a Nue but who cares when you can just double tap a dude before anyone notices. I think you overvalued open combat capability in this list when most of the time you're better off using anything else when outside of stealth. A good stealth pistol that can iust delete people before combat even starts is always a better option than something that's like just ok in an actual fight.
Imo Lex xmod2 and Rook are almost equal. And Lex has a better customisation and better dmg stat. So if you are using legendary silencer with 100% crit chance from stealth, Lex could be stronger.
I tested the damage between the dying night and lexington xmod2 pretty thoroughly at some point in my playthrough and found that due to its shock damage, dying night almost always outperforms the xmod at close to medium distance, with the exception of hitting almost exclusively headshots, which is when xmod edges ahead. This changes when you put on the explosive rounds chimera mod and the fire mod, that's when the xmod basically wins flat out due to its higher range and nice DoT
Yeah I found that as well, which I think was kinda the point of all the xmod weapons, they're slightly better than standard, but then with mods installed, they're slightly better *depending on what mods you use*
@@digivagrant yeah right, you get an xmod, with some specific perk build, and so long as you have mods built up, your guns are just better, bit don't look as nice
Head cannon goes is Vs primary weapons go. Unity -> Malorian revolver -> Malorian 3516 while keeping a unity as back up back holster pistol and thats why it shows up in cut scenes
If they made Plan B an Infinity pistol i.e. not requiring reload, as long as your eddy bank is yet depleted, it could climb to the very top of pistols tier list.
So is there a equivalent to a bloody build like from fallout 76 in cyberpunk? Also, thank you for only doing videos from the perspective of very hard. If you're not playing a game like this I'm very hard you're not really playing it, and I dare say it should go one step further to survival mode.
La Chingona Dorada stacks with itself, so if you pop heads, switch to your other copy, pop some more heads and then swap back, you have 2 fully reloaded pistols.
The rapidfire M-10AF Lexington is 23 on this list, which is understandable. However, there is also the Iconic Lexington X-MOD2 that SHOULD BE on it. It has one Scope slot and 2 mod slots. You can get this by winning the shooting range mission that is given by the first gun vendor in your shitty apartment complex who gives you Dying Night at the beginning. Last night I battled the “new and improved” Mr. Smasher using this gun. With a T5 Firecracker (explosive rounds, needs chimera core), a T5 Equalizer (20% damage against 💀) , and a T4 TSX Tocororo Silencer (+10 Crit Chance). I wanted the feeling of overkill aaaaaand I got it. He became a piece of fuckable meat. Alas, I did not partake. I just talked a LOT of shit. 😁
There is a reason to use both La Cingona Dorada. Each headshot reloads the La Cingona dorada. Both of the La Cingona Dorada. So you can fire the mag of one of them to low count swap to the other, fire the mag to low count, swap again - reloading the other gun and repeat. SO each one can reload the other provided you do not deplete the mag completely. I am not sure if the other bonuses stack but I see no reason why they would not.
Plan B is deff underrated. It’s 200% headshot multiplier is very powerful imo. My character is maxed out on pistols and Plan B absolutely demolishes enemies and it has 20 rounds.
No it isn't. An extra 50% headshot multiplier isn't coming close to offsetting a 53 damage slow gun. Pride has 101 base damage and a 420% head shot multiplier. The gun isn't that good. It is one of the first iconics you get in the game and it seems like a ton of people used it then thought it was good and just stuck with it and didn't really try anything else... IT ISN"T GOOD
Ticon is a criminally underrated weapon. The one accurate charged shot absolutely rips enemies with bolt. Combine that with the wallpuncher mod and every fight becomes a cakewalk even in harder difficulties when you can just delete enemies even from behind walls. Add in the chain lighting and everyone is dust. Ambition is also really good vs. bosses and MaxTac. The quick charge time to release a bolt makes it very versatile and when it manages to upload the optic reboot to the enemy the bolt headshot do some serious damage even to MaxTac.
Her Majesty is broken with optical camo, a sandevistan and axolotl. Ya see, when you have optical camo active and get a kill while having axolotl equipped in decreases the CD, but if you're using it at the time of the kill it functionally extends it. Couple that mechanic with slowed time and I almost always can clear an army before becoming unstealthed. If you try this out and want to show it off, plz gimme a quick shout out, it's SUPER fun. Also to note, it's perfectly accurate while stealth so hitfire is more optimal, I'd love to send you a video showing it off
Once I got the Seraph, I threw a suppressor on it n NEVER looked back. Had the Nue, which I preferred over the Tamayura, but the Seraph was a game changer. I dunno what it is, but I even used it over things like Her Majesty for stealth. That gun, is my baby!
I only play I'm very hard and I never waste perk points on health or mitigation other than mid-air mitigation because I just ran out of things to put my points in
The Reflexes skill tree should have a dual wield perk at level 20. Just have no zoom in because you fire the left gun with L2 and the right gun with R2 and no consumables, its just a higher dps tradeoff for no zoom or consumables while the skill is active
Yeah! Kinda like how dual wielding in Skyrim means no block: dual wielding in cyberpunk would mean all shots are hipfire shots, without any ads. It would work seamlessly, tbh, give how many hipfire perks there already are!
a dual wielding perk should be in cool not reflexes, since... you know, wielding two guns is all about being cool, plus, what weapons could benefit from dualwielding? not assault rifles or most smg's, and cool is the stat for handguns since 2.0, especially since each stat focus on specific weapons body for heavy weapons like lmg's or shotguns or melee weapons reflexes for smg's or assault rifles technicall ability for tech and explosive guns as well ciberware inteligence for smart guns and netrunning and cool, the stat for handguns sniper/precission rifles, thrown knifes and stealth
29:40 would that not be a roughly 50% chance to burn? 0.8 • 0.8 • 0.8 = 0.512 1 - 0.512 = 0.488 instead of 0.2 • 3 Or am I fundamentally misunderstanding math?
Very happy to see Chingona high up on the list. Even if you don't run two of them, getting more damage and burn chance per headshots is a nice effect, and as a Nue (way cooler of a platform than the unity) does way more single shot damage.
I just realized there isn't a review for the mods to attach to guns. I know it may be tedious but it be helpful to know what mods to put on which guns.
Hey Sam, I think you are seriously underestimating the Catahoula pistol. This thing paired with Bolt shots shreds groups of enemies ; while it doesn't have a visual indicator of charge on it unlike most other Tech weapons, there's still an indicator for when you have to release the charge in the UI next to your Health Bar (it's an icon with arrows that point up). That or just learn the timing by heart. After releasing the charge, you quickly press the fire button again to keep firing in full-auto, which does multiple Bolt-Chain lightning and shreds everything around. Anyone still alive will also be burning if you have the Engineer lv 55 skill. It's also satisfying as hell since, like the Lexington, you get multiple feedback sounds for headshots, as it is an automatic gun. It's also pretty good at dismemberment for some reason. Also, its shots do go through cover, although they seem to deal less damage.
Sam, you heavily underrate Plan B, Pariah and Apparition. Plan B has the best fire rate of all the liberty's, 200% headshot and bleed damage. Its is really good. Pariah with the right build is just insane. Apparition.. you're just addicted to your adrenaline / biomonitor. There are many ways to take advantage / survive being at low health (nano plating, defenzikov.. to name a few) Hell, I started playing the game without using health items to make it more interesting (yes, on very hard).
After playing for a while Im going to have to go with the Lexington XMod2 with Firecracker and Parallax as the best pistol in the game when you consider criteria other than damage. Especially if youre specced into the pistol tree. Firecracker balances out the damage while adding splash aswell. Speaking of damage, after playing with Her Majesty and the other high damage pistols I found them usually not performing as well as the LeXMod2. At least for my build. I run Sword, Knife and Pistol, two of those weapon types, one of them. So the pistol has to do more than high damage and shoot from stealth. I found myself rarely using the high damage pistols when equipped because the sword and knife were sharper options, no pun intended, since Her Majesty just couldnt do as much. They do well in stealth but are ok in open combat. Lowest recoil. Essentially none with my build Good carrying capacity of 20 rounds which is double Her Majesty's Automatic fire One of the best in range Lots of splash damage LeXMod2 also benefits from Focus, DeadEye, Nerves of Tungsten, and Run n Gun perks the most. Even more so the 20% reload Air Dash skill perk and Firecracker Mod having double the carrying capacity and automatic fire. And though they win in damage im pretty sure the LeXMod2 has more DPS and shorter TTK. When it boils down, you can shoot many ways and deal with groups or one person with more tactics, strategy, and flow at many ranges. With Her Majesty I really couldnt find an excuse to bring her out against groups and at mid to close range. And at long range I had more reason to shield the wall of bullets with my sword instead of taking damage to land maybe one kill. At best I'd get one or 2 kills from cover before having to move or switch to sword in open combat.
...I have no idea why you ranked Dex's "Plan B" Liberty handgun that low. My dude, pick it up again and look at it's headshot damage modifier and how fast it fires. It fires almost twice as faster as a Unity or a regular Liberty. It's actually an amazing handgun. And, oh yeah, it has a magazine capacity of 20. Not 12. Not 10. And as for it being expensive - it isn't? With PL's new economy and payouts, you're literally swimming in eddies so long as you aren't buying every single car you can get your hands on.
I'm not sure if recent patches changeed some balancing on this weapons but I can say rigth now the seraph is way to low on this List. I didn' play PL yet but in terms of the basegame pistols I tried them all out and seraph is in my opinion on second place behind pride and slightly over johnnys gun (mainly because bigger mag, faster reload and scope, the dps is quite comparible). Don't know why he ranked la chingona dorada so high, it's not nearly on the same lvl.
If anybody is wondering why there are no revolvers on this list, I split them into a seperate video for time purposes. You can find that here: th-cam.com/video/hQN0QCvM1pk/w-d-xo.html
almost comment where are the revolver haha
i was wondering where the Taigan was, i overuse it when it comes to pyromania stacks, idk if you can tell but i like pyromania stacks, with the projectile system launch.
can any revolver have supressor?
NO.1 pistol is also my favorite.
I think the headshot swap feature on La Chingona is to encourage swapping between both Chingonas in combat rather than only using one, to imitate a double handguns style
I think you're correct.
they missed the chance of adding an Akimbo perk if u have both pistols equipped... sliding and dashing around NC while dual wielding jackito pistols would probably be *chef´s kiss*
Fingers crossed they somehow add an akimbo system in the very last patch. They said they were going to implement some gameplay features people have wanted for awhile. But I’ve got my money on cosmetic car and cyberware customization, if anything. Akimbo seems pretty crazy to add at this late date.
@@quantumphayer not a perk, they should have made Akimbo its unique modifier alongside with a smart weapon like aim mode where V follows enemy movement with the gun. now that would make them Iconic...
Yup, like the smg perk
Even though Malorian is not the best, but I still end up using it the most ‘cause it’s felt so good when reloading and the impact and sound is so damn satisfying!!
100% absolutely, after getting 90% of the iconic pistols, I tried them, and the used the Johnny Malorian
The Malorian is awesome but I really wish they added the lore that it actually has some of the real Johnny’s incredibly angry personality bouncing around it’s wiring, like in the ttrpg. I guess it’s because it was chipped to his cyber-arm for so long that while Johnny was having cyberpsycho episodes his neural info would leak into it through the personal link.
It would be pretty cool if you got some ghostly, angry voice lines after like, getting a nice headshot or taking out a bunch of corpos in quick succession. Hit an Arasaka agent with the secondary fire? “Time to buuurn, Corporat.” That would be fun. I wonder if there’s enough Johnny voice lines in the game to do something like that with mods? Way beyond me anyway.
@spiraljumper74 or if they kept it in, have johnnys silver arm start to appear the more you keep it out/use it
Finally somebody that isnt delusional and doesn't think that because they like it or use it the most that it must be the best
@@spiraljumper74 You could just make AI do it...
Tamayura is so good for stealth builds; I found little reason to use Her Majesty when I got her because I already had a 4-slot T5 Tamayura that more reliably 1-tapped heads.
No, Her Majesty will just do more damage unless you have found some cool trick nobody else has.
@@thomgizziz Well the legendary silencer does guaranteed crit hits on stealth headshots, the tamayura has armor pen, its base damage is higher and it can fit a pox and equalizer. I'd say those are some pretty big benefits to give it a higher damage potential. Ofcourse this still loses to pride, but everything loses to pride in stealth while you can run a modded nue/tamayura much earlier.
To be fair, aside from the elite heavies and bosses, you pretty much can take one shot everyone with a maxed out silenced pistol.
I'm one or at worst two tapping everyone with seraph for the most part and I'm not even fully specced for pistols.
@@thomgizzizyou're wrong because mods exist for base weapons... also her majesty is more clunky to use, basically requiring that optical camo perk and for you to be crouch sprinting while shooting. the tamayura is more consistent and easier to land as long as you are patient with your shots
Best stealth pistol
I'm surprised the Death and Taxes is ranked this low. I think it's one of the best stealth pistols in the game once you get the your sandevistan and correctly perking the cool tree. It does double damage to the head because of the burst.
@@ryanshoults123Your question is very confusing
@@ryanshoults123 I should be saying this to you
@@ryanshoults123 What? Dude you need to learn how to write.
Death and Taxes is okay. It does hit twice but that doesn't mean that it doubles the damage of other guns... because it doesn't. A good stealth build will get you average hits of just over 2k with death and taxes where as better guns are in the 3-4k+ range. And that is the difference from one shotting dudes on very hard.
If you aren't playing very hard then I can see your argument and it makes sense but even on hard it starts to fall off.
@@thomgizziz No I always play on very hard and death and Taxes is probably one of my most reliable handguns for stealth kills. I'm saying it's basically double damage per burst not shot.
Seraph was my signature weapon in 1.6, back when ricochet was worth doing. Now, with no ricochet on it in 2.0+, while also not activating pyromania, it's a crying shame. However, using it as a silenced weapon is a fun time and still feels good, despite being sad about it.
Yeah, it's still a REALLY good pistol.
Before 2.0 there used to be this quirk with the Kenshin Takemura leaves with you after the two of you escape the Troy which allowed you to upgrade it to have insane DPS. Most often I would use it through almost the entire game. If that quirk still existed in 2.0 it would have easily put it on par with some if the best tech iconics since it'd be allowed to use mods. Wish they had maybe turned it into an Xmod model instead of just a regular Kenshin, honestly. One of the most deadly bodyguards on the entire planet would surely have some kind of unique iron.
@AnomalyArcadie you got footage?
I never use charged shots with Lizzie unless someone is bugged under the ground but the hipfire normal shots are just insane, I love this gun so much. One shots all non skull ennemies with headshots
How to make the malorian amazing: wall piercing, wall piercing has no damage drop off
20% of its damage is thermal, is affected by both lvl 20 cool perks and has 200% headshot multiplier
rook with sandevistan is my favorite combo in the game. love that gun
Hi Sam, I've had a good time combining Her Majesty, Camo, Sandevistan, and Axolotl. Tier 5 handyman to enable a better scope than default sights and bonus crit damage.
You get the crit bonuses from Camo, time to aim from Sandy (which I prefer to kerenzikov to allow Deadeye and Focus to trigger for more damage) and kills with Axolotl help speed up the recharge for both Sandy and Camo.
It's a bit specific, but makes it super punchy.
Lizzie + Chain Lightning (from Tech skilltree) just _OBLITERATES_ in open combat better than *any other pistol.* It is not remotely close.
Make sure you take the Bolt shot perk that allows for Bolt shots to ignore armour and enjoy. 😈
my favorite handgun is still johnny's gun, but for stealth I like to use Jackie's La Chingona
You need to try Seraph with a legendary suppressor on it. It’s easily the best stealth pistol ever, especially when you upgrade it one or two times. It uses explosive rounds but won’t alert enemies if you have a suppressor on it. It’s OP af.
Another Genjiro can also be found during the parade mission (play it safe if i remember right) behind a locked door i need to pass a technical ability check in order to get in.
hahahah I didn't expect you to almost flawlessly formed the sentences for the Ambition LOTR reference...
I can't get over NUE, equipped with silencer a great choice for stealth approach
Nah, Seraph is ten times better. Trust me once you try it, you won’t go back to anything else.
Dying Night is my endgame stealth pistol, because the arbitrary slowing of the firerate on unity/liberty pisses me off to no end. You should be able to fire it as fast as any cz75, on which it's based
I love the Unity, good ol' reliable.
Ion know. The OGOU Chou variant felt very weak to me
I'd put death and taxes a little higher myself, it's one of best stealth pistols on very hard imo, the only one that can easily 1 shot enemies very early in the game (and with a very good maxed out build, it's still one of the best guns in full on combat if you go for headshots). I'd certainly put it higher than cheetah which hyped me up at first but i ended up losing less health 1/2-shotting enemies with d&t than trying to land multiple consecutive shots with the cheetah while getting shot at from all directions. You can actually use both chingonas effectively specifically because of its passive, basically allowing you to skip reloads altogether if you can land consistent headshots, all while packing serious punch.
you cant 1 shot elites... it just isnt that good when you really want to one shot people
The Chaos is more like the Oldridian from Borderlands3 than the Wabbajack, since it literally does what the Oldridian does.
It’s a real shame that this video was edited before the most recent update involving Johnny’s pistol cause now it’s easily in the top 5’s with an increased damage amount of 110, a higher reload speed and increased quick attack damage
It’s one of the most powerful guns I can use, even beating out the best revolver in the game.
Don't forget the 50% armor penetration putting it on par with uncharged tech weapons
How do you know it was edited before the update? That update came out 2 weeks ago
@@lexsteele2218 cause if it’s only a 9 with the massive buff it just received then it must be before that update, like seriously the new malorian is so much more powerful. Plus the stats screen he showed has its pre update numbers
@@sansventura7199I believe he mentions it at 35:00
@@Saxina oh.
Well then.
What about Ol'Reliable greater chance of headshot crit+damage% the farther you are max of 35 meters
Base damage 114
+Headshot crit max 35% bonus
+max 42% bonus headshot damage
+ 50% base bonus crit chance
+10% effective range and a temporary swap bonus
Curious if this masterful list will change at all after 2.1 release next week. Looks like the two vehicle lists will need updates after that patch as well, Sam Bram may be busy for a bit. :)
No, it doesn't seem like they are going to be doing any major changes on weapons.
I just use Plan B mostly with some Sniper and rarely with AR
Johnny's Malorian with a high cool build is an absolute monster , just feels so badass to one tap enemies with hip fire head shots
It’s my favorite weapon in fiction
I used it throughout my cool playthrough, and loved it, BUT it's extremely mediocre tbh. it's about on the same level as a normal revolver, but less damage and more boolets, and slower reload. It's omega shafted by the fact you can't put mods on uniques anymore. I'd love malorian with explosive chimera bullets
Yeh since it's lil buff from 2.0 to 2.02 it performs much better too
@@darkone9206 It still isn't good... it probably shouldn't even be in the top 10
@@thomgizziz i kind of agree. even maxed out at 5++ it was taking a whole mag to kill normal enemies. It's really depressingly weak.
The Malorian still is great at head to head combat
Doing a Johnny "Kick the door down" build of exclusively using handguns and being as un-stealthy as possible, the Malorian is actually pretty good, especially when backup up by a revolver
The Malorian and Rosco are my go to pistol/revolvers for open combat
or replaced by a revolver or even better a shotgun...
@thomgizziz why not both pistol and shotgun? Lizzie is easily one of my favorites for guns that stay relevant through the whole game.
I use the memorial with byaku and a tanto. Just feel like a ripoff johnny silver hand samurai
Doing something similar right now but I made my nomad character like Arnold from T2, no need to stealth just big ass shotgun and lmg to obliterate everything
I think not going with 20 cool is a major mistake, it *really* makes a lot of pistols crazy cause of 0 recoil, you can get a consistent full lexington mag into someone's head with it
I agree. I also love to use the Kenshin on Hip Fire and when extra AoE is needed, Bolt. It´s really powerful with the perks and beats the Omaha easily. A Barghest Lexington Full Auto is also a very nice thing to use...esspecially with the Iconic Power Weapon Mod.
20 cool gives you 0 recoil?
@@maskedman5657 Not directly, but Dead Eye make pisotl 0 spread and cyberware can take care of the recoil part easyily.
The only pistol that doesn't require Cool 20 (in fact - doesn't require it at all) is the Seraph with cyberdeck build. Cast Contagion, pew pew from Seraph. Boom. Moving on.
I think a large aspect you overlooked with Death & Taxes is the 2-round burst now. Due to the nature of bursts during Sandevistan, both rounds shoot out un-slowed while everything else is, practically guaranteeing two critical headshots with a single pull of the trigger. It's my go-to stealth pistol over Her Majesty.
Same it's definitely slept on. It's ridiculously good with the sandy, add a tier 5 suppressor for the guaranteed crits undetected and it's a beast. From my experience only pride has it beat in raw damage output.
If only the quest to get it during wasn't bugged as hell. I'm convinced I lost the chance because I can't start Ex Factor and Judy won't call.
Plan B shoots ''just'' around 10K to 15K in a full play trough. Using Plan B does not ''burn your wallet'' since you can get that money fairly easy. In fact it gives you basically infinite ammo and bleeding changes. Plan B is below avarage I'd say. Should be ranked somewhere in low-middle (above Kongou).
Tamayura should be ranked higher, its the best non-iconic pistol for stealth builds with the highest base damage of all pistols and a higher headshot multiplier than the Nue. Should be around where the Chao is personally.
Yea right? Tamayura+Pax+Skull Dmg Mod+Silencer = Stealth god.
I can't find the Tamayura that much besides Arasaka tower
@@lexsteele2218the wepon vendor at the far side of Dogtown sells it. If not, rewind 24h and try again. Also airdrops in Dogtown. I've got a tier 5++ with 2 empty mods. Combined with two pax I get around 3-4K DMG per headshot on hardest, of course at stealth play. Of course cyberware and perks have to be at max too, but nothing gets close to tamayura!
I agree the kongou should be above the plan b. Mainly because of the, technically infinite ammo from the crafting. Which kind of negates the plan bs using a different ammo type.
Hard disagree. Tech weapons have a damage penalty when piercing cover. Power weapon ricochets do not. Kongou ricochets have a ridiculously generous auto-lock angle, and you can test it yourself. Almost 3-4 times as much as a regular power weapon. It is easily one of the best early game handguns in the game because of this. The bullets feel like they're literally bending around corners to auto-target enemies.
You can also get Genjiroh during the parade mission while traveling along the catwalks, taking out the snipers. It's in a supply room between the first and second sniper, just before you climb up a ladder and cross a skybridge.
???? Really?!
Yeah, I was about to say that
I was thinking the same thing
Yeah, tbh I'm surprised he missed that since it's more likely to find it there first
Only during this mission? I followed another guide that said it was supposed to be behind a gate in a small room with a doorcode that could be entered to open the gate. The gun was not there for me. I haven't started the mission so maybe that is required first?
Pariah robbed. ROBBED. Its the only stealth pistol pre-pride that can 1 shot elites and it can make use of bolt perks, the one weapon perk tree with the least number of required perks to use at max efficiency. Its only used less than Her Majesty because its ending locked.
Sigh, at least Lizzie was judged justly.
The malorian with sandevistan is just art, especially with a very high level one. You feel like quicksilver just casually strolling around combat putting in perfect headshots
you can do that with a bunch of guns...
@@thomgizzizwith sandy, any attack becomes great...
Use SKIPPY on stone cold killer always head shots -d
You become Johnny Quicksilverhand.
Can't beat it the best
Seraph is one damn good pistol.
the burn and explosive damage is able to kill skull level enemies with 2 bullets, aimed at the head.
plus the gun has 14 mag.
and the explosive rounds effect the near by enemies by knocking them out, giving you time to avoid getting shot at.
I would say Seraph should be in top 5.
@LevisH21 so much Seraph love 😂
@@maskedman5657We all love Seraph for a reason. Pair it with a legendary suppressor and it’s the ultimate stealth pistol. Nothing else compares to it tbh.
The tiny pink pistol that is Lizzie, is cyberpunk 2077s answer to the cricket gun. Seemingly harmless, laughable even, but with nuclear level damage.
No, no it isn't. It looks like a handgun and just because it is purple doesn't mean it is a toy.
@@thomgizziz it's tiny and pink pistol lol. It's not a toy but neither is the cricket gun from mib.
Fun fact: the pistol Lucy uses in Edgerunners is also the Unity pistol, truly the pistol of all times.
YES you're doing my favourite type of weapon in cyberpunk 2077 and my main reason for liking the pistols is because of the unique designs on all of the guns. And Sam thank you for doing all for your cyberpunk content it's nice to know that there's someone out there that loves this game just as much as I do.❤
If you pick both Dorada guns and use them together they will reload each other after switching. So lets say you only equip the 2 Dorada's when one it empty you switch to the other and therefore you have endless ammo.
even with just one, all you have to do is holster and redraw it to reload (if you only landed headshots), not as good as using 2, but very close.
I surprised the Chaos is so high on this list. I guess im not a big fan of two short burst weapons. I much better preferred the Chaos before the update when it was 3 shot.
I agree, I got it on my new 2.0 playthrough, used it for one firefight, never used it again. Not because it was bad, but I already had weapons that were better, in part because I finished everything in Watson before doing that mission
I've never actually used the Chaos. I picked it up when I did that mission, and I stuck it in my armory almost immediately. The concept sounds interesting and i was even considering using yesterday when i saw it in my armory, but now hearing that it's been nerfed i don't think I will.
You’re not missing anything, Her Majesty is tough to use while in optical camo
For stealth now that they actually put a silencer on it in the last update, the Mancinella is BY FAR the best stealth weapon in the game. If you use a Sandevistan the stealth bonus stays active for the entirety of an engagement because of the gun's special perk and with the Axolotl recharging your Sandy you can kill an entire group of enemies in one go easily. I actually just got rid of all my stealth perks and put them into other stuff because of how good the Mancinella is with a Sandy.
@@YardoIt’s cool that they fixed the gun but I’ve just never like the look of the Nova, the lines are just weird. Personally, I’ve never found a better gun for stealth than a random legendary Nue with two mod slots. I’ll give the Mancinella another try though.
I think it’s great to use hip firing in optical camo, especially when you get all the pistol perks, till when hip firing is basically better than aiming if you land the shots well, honestly the ranking should change dramatically if you have both 20 Cool pistol perks.
If you have the final pistol perk, hip fired shots always do full damage, combine with with crouch sprinting optical camo and axolotl, maybe the level 60 headhunter perk, and you're a one man assassination squad
Thats what knife throwers have to put up with until the later cyberware. Its the same techniwue
Seriously dude? 50 minutes for a cyberpunk pistol ranking?….
That fucking rules
Pariah should not be slept on. Silent Stealth charge shots through walls is one of the coolest things I’ve ever experienced in a game.
@johnfitsch7781 footage?
@@maskedman5657 My god, it's been months dude. F-ing go try it already.
@@iSuperVamp I did.
@@maskedman5657Footage?
Honestly I think Seraph is majorly underestimated. The fact you can equip it with a scope and silencer in addition to having explosive rounds that set some enemies on fire makes it my go to stealth weapon.
It’s a beast in stealth or loud and you can switch it at will
@@ericm3327 So where should it be on the list?
Seraph has been my go to for my PL run.
@@maskedman5657 I'd say up at the 6th slot where La Chingona Dorada is at
So you can use explosive rounds and silencer?
Dying night is my go-to pistol for my John Wick, Gun-fo inspirered build. It's damn fun to go into melee range with Dying night. Plus, it works just as well on auto-fire as with single shot.
Not maxing out Cool means you don't get the capstone skill for pistols though and it's a pretty defining skill. As long as you hipfire you can ignore stamina entirely, have perfect accurary, and bonus headshot damage. On top of that you get whatever else bonuses from other perks related to deadeye infinitely. This benefits some pistols more than others and anyone making a pistol build will take it into account.
Personally, I think the capstone perks should be switched between pistols and revolvers but that's neither here nor there.
I feel the capstone's should effect all weapons but if not they should have Johnny's malorian be the only pistol effected by both just to make it pretty darn go
For the purposes of this list does it really matter? Pistols only receive the hip fire and movement speed buffs, and personally i never hip fire, so I only benefit from the movement speed (which can be helpful in stealth when crouched, sure). Sometimes I don't even use that perk because it honestly isnt that great for a capstone. The revolver perk is insane though. But for the purpose of ranking pistols specifically, maxing out cool doesn't really make a difference.
@@mossicely in my experience it really does. High fire rate pistols like the Lexington really benefits from it a lot more than others. Infinite stamina, high fire rate, and perfect accuracy means you can be a lot more in your face and spam headshots instead of being stealthy. Obviously if you don't hip fire then it doesn't matter but the whole point IS to hipfire and get close.
@@abednegokurio9244One guy claimed the XMOD is one of the best in the game with Firecracker
La Chingona Dorada or Pride are FARR better stealth guns than her majesty, if you use t5 silencers. those silencers are quite rare but both are possible to acquire. for stealth head shots i managed to go up to 2.5k for La Chingona Dorada , and over 4.2k for Pride.
45:05 scotch tape and a pen to add a temporary crosshair to your monitor.
For Her Majesty's Optical Camo buffs I think they want you to actively use the Optical Camo instead of just spamming Vanishing Act, so they want you to max out Headhunter to get that 15% Optical Camo recharge per kill during Focus or Deadeye, you can combine that with Axolotl for 25-26% Optical Camo charge per kill for essentially infinite invisibility.
Or you can add Kerinzikov and just slide and killed them in slo-mo
I imagine they let you pick up both La Chingona Doradas to basically have you cycle between the two, giving you infinite ammo indefinitely, provided that you're a good shot and can keep hitting those headshots.
In Cyberpunk i am more of a shotgun person. It is so satisfieing being able to send enemies fly over the room a few meters and see their health just melt.
Looking forward to watch your top of the best shotguns.
I did start a new game now with the dlc instaled, but have not realy had time to experience the game that much.
I have 170 hours into the game, mostly with update 1.6 and just a few hours with update 2.0.
Prety good i have to say.
Death and Taxes + Cocktail Stick + Neurotoxin Knife (in anodized pink obv) makes for a great girlbossing loadout (and is actually pretty fuckin good and really fun to play around for stealth)
Where did you find the pink neurotoxin knife?
Because you think a color is girlbossing??? SMH...
@@thomgizziz no bruh. It's girlbossing because Death and Taxes literally belongs to a woman in a power role, and Cocktail Stick belonged to one of the only people in Night City trying to take control of their own life back from their abusers. Lmao. The pink knife just fits better with the iconics than any other throwable option.
I found lexington x mod silenced with firecracker and 30% armor pen mod attached is the best stealth gameplay pistol. Even better than her majesty and rook. You can argue about Pride silenced is the best weapon but if you miss head shot the high fire rate makes up for the missed shot for lexington. But pride + headhunter knife is best weapon combo rotation amongst any weapon in the game no doubt.
How can it be stealth with firecracker
I completely agree that Pride is #1. That gun is insane. I really like the Lizzie in 1.6 but I thought it was kind of crappy in 2.0 but I didn't use it much at all, so maybe I was too quick to judge it. Still, once I got the Pride, I didn't use anything else except for snipers at long distance or katanas for boss fights.
Lizzy is great at the time it becomes available, for any any type of built, but it's damage output falls off too much by the end game, and there are better options at that point, especially when doing a built designed around pistols.
It's insane to me that he ranked the Ambition and Pariah lower than the Lizzie.
Both have better range, the blind effect on the Ambition gives you great CC and the Pariah when fully charged deals 3 shot damage in basically one shot, with zero recoil and good range on it. On top of that it is silenced.
Plan B has 200% headshot damage. Highest silenceable weapon.
Pride has 420% when you are at full health and you should be at full health almost 100% of the time and it has double the base damage... Base damage is a big deal if you are looking to do stealth pistol builds.
I will have to start a brand new walkthrough, since we're getting metro update. For Pistols Johnny's Malorian is the best one in my opinion.
I think you underrated Plan B, it has a higher than normal headshot multiplier at 200%, so it's been really good for my stealth build which also trivializes the cost per shot mechanic. Also you can get it right after the heist so if you need a decent pistol it's available pretty early on. I wouldn't want it in a stand-up fight but for popping heads it's seriously underrated.
He didn't. The base damage on plan B is not good, especially for a gun that is that slow.
it's honestly really disappointing that both early game Liberty iconics you get are so disappoining, both Kongou and Plan B have fantastic appearances, but neither of them really cut the mustard (you're seriously better off just using Nehan for stealth kills during the heist, or it and Satori or an AR if you're going out guns blazing, than Kongou). At least Seraph and Pride make up for it, mainly Pride.
@@thomgizziz
"for a gun that is that slow."
You keep saying this in multiple comments. Plan B has one of the fastest firing rates for a semi-auto handgun in the game. It's over twice that of a Nue/Tamayura. It's nearly twice that of the Unity/Liberty. How in the hell is that "slow"?
Pariah is my absolute favourite. Speccing into the tech weapon tree and stealth makes it a monster, and the bonus charge and reload time on headshots make it devastatingly effective both at open combat and quick stealth chain kills
@federicobellavista634 got footage?
Ricochet is honestly really useful when you want to fire from cover. It shows where they are behind walls if you line up the ricochet correctly, and it’s a decent way to counter the annoying ass sandevistan having gangoons.
Come up on a group of enemies, activate optical camo at the same time as a sandevistan, then use Her Majesty to wipe out the whole group before optical camo is up. Newton module + Apogee helps a lot too by making infinite sandy time.
the best gun for the shooting range mission = SKIPPY, has 30 ammo + smart targeting = speed unload 2 mags and you win before its even half way thru lolz cheezy mode no aiming required thanks skippy -d even on passive or head shot mode either works for target range shootin
Patch 2.1 will introduce an option to enable a centered dot on the screen (helps with motionsickness). Solves all optical camo problems.
I usually use mods for this, CP2077s iron sights are all incredibly bad, I never use them.
It’s already an option on consoles
@@somethingsaucy1776It's already on PC as well
You ever get the feeling CDPR is poking a bit of fun at Bethesda? The vendor guns and a few others looking like toys, a definite reminder of the upgradable water pistol and acid soaker. I have not downloaded Phantom Liberty yet, but I have watched a lot about it and some areas and containers make me feel like it's Boston 2277 or thereabouts plus or minus a few dings to the old chronometer.
Seraph was a monster beast in my experience. If we're talking pistols I want a nice all arounder but with some above average punch and seraph fits the bill! It's a good sidearm if you aren't specifically specced into pistols all the way.
I think it counts as firing explosive bullets too for the explosive damage percentage buffs you get on cyber but will have to double check that. Anyway it was doing hard work for me! Plus it's just a thing of beauty, let's be honest! Gotta admit the Valentinos have style!
I noticed that some guns benefit way more from the pistol perks and others that may not have as much potential can be better "out of the box" if you will. So if you arent specifically a pistolier having a nice all around handgun with good accuracy, range, and punch might be more useful to you than one that requires 15-20 in cool to be the "best".
yea honestly I cant find another gun that can be used as a stealth 1 shotter and can also blast through enemies easily once detected
It was my gun of choice until I got the Pride. I never felt like it wasn't worth the effort to get.
@@HarryBuddhaPalm What kind of double negative nightmare is this? You are saying "I felt like seraph was worth the effort to get"
@@thomgizziz "I'm ALWAYS never not nice!!" Sound familiar? ;P
@@thomgizziz I'm well aware of what I wrote.
You CAN actually buy the Tamayura from a vendor- He's in Dogtown- A weapon vendor just next to the "Moth" bar.
He sells ALOT of Arasaka weaponry, like the Nowaki for example
You can also find it on at least one of the Voodoo Boys in Pacifica.
@@tron9683 I just got a t5++ out of a drop crate.
I think you're severely undervaluing Kongou. It's a fantastic stealth pistol cause of it's fast fire speed. Maybe it doesn't have quite as high damage single shot as a Nue but who cares when you can just double tap a dude before anyone notices. I think you overvalued open combat capability in this list when most of the time you're better off using anything else when outside of stealth. A good stealth pistol that can iust delete people before combat even starts is always a better option than something that's like just ok in an actual fight.
Another great video! I used Plan B for a while as my Stealth-gun, owing to the 200% headshot multiplier.
Imo Lex xmod2 and Rook are almost equal. And Lex has a better customisation and better dmg stat. So if you are using legendary silencer with 100% crit chance from stealth, Lex could be stronger.
I'll look into this
I tested the damage between the dying night and lexington xmod2 pretty thoroughly at some point in my playthrough and found that due to its shock damage, dying night almost always outperforms the xmod at close to medium distance, with the exception of hitting almost exclusively headshots, which is when xmod edges ahead. This changes when you put on the explosive rounds chimera mod and the fire mod, that's when the xmod basically wins flat out due to its higher range and nice DoT
Yeah I found that as well, which I think was kinda the point of all the xmod weapons, they're slightly better than standard, but then with mods installed, they're slightly better *depending on what mods you use*
Sorry, slightly better than some iconics based on what mods you use
@@GuerrillaWarloard You can make xmods lasers with Ready Steady and that Iconic Hand Chrome.
@@digivagrant yeah right, you get an xmod, with some specific perk build, and so long as you have mods built up, your guns are just better, bit don't look as nice
If you are using a sandevistan you should be hitting almost exclusively headshots... are you not?
Death and Taxes is my favourite. You can basically one shot most enemies in stealth, on very hard too
Well, 'two shot' technically...
@@iSuperVamp😂
Head cannon goes is Vs primary weapons go. Unity -> Malorian revolver -> Malorian 3516 while keeping a unity as back up back holster pistol and thats why it shows up in cut scenes
If they made Plan B an Infinity pistol i.e. not requiring reload, as long as your eddy bank is yet depleted, it could climb to the very top of pistols tier list.
@tranminhnhat7645 true
Thanks for always making such banger content Sam!
So is there a equivalent to a bloody build like from fallout 76 in cyberpunk?
Also, thank you for only doing videos from the perspective of very hard. If you're not playing a game like this I'm very hard you're not really playing it, and I dare say it should go one step further to survival mode.
La Chingona Dorada stacks with itself, so if you pop heads, switch to your other copy, pop some more heads and then swap back, you have 2 fully reloaded pistols.
That is a very good point tbf Choom!
The rapidfire M-10AF Lexington is 23 on this list, which is understandable. However, there is also the Iconic Lexington X-MOD2 that SHOULD BE on it. It has one Scope slot and 2 mod slots. You can get this by winning the shooting range mission that is given by the first gun vendor in your shitty apartment complex who gives you Dying Night at the beginning.
Last night I battled the “new and improved” Mr. Smasher using this gun. With a T5 Firecracker (explosive rounds, needs chimera core), a T5 Equalizer (20% damage against 💀) , and a T4 TSX Tocororo Silencer (+10 Crit Chance). I wanted the feeling of overkill aaaaaand I got it.
He became a piece of fuckable meat. Alas, I did not partake. I just talked a LOT of shit. 😁
No way. Post footage
There is a reason to use both La Cingona Dorada. Each headshot reloads the La Cingona dorada. Both of the La Cingona Dorada. So you can fire the mag of one of them to low count swap to the other, fire the mag to low count, swap again - reloading the other gun and repeat. SO each one can reload the other provided you do not deplete the mag completely. I am not sure if the other bonuses stack but I see no reason why they would not.
On top I think in 2.0 you can still set up the attachments different, say one stealth, one not stealth etc
I still use Comrade's Hammer, it's still very close to a 1 hit gun. I guess it's not on the list because it's a revolver.
Plan B is deff underrated. It’s 200% headshot multiplier is very powerful imo. My character is maxed out on pistols and Plan B absolutely demolishes enemies and it has 20 rounds.
Imma try it out again
Maxed out on pistol?
@@pervert_kun the perk tree in cool that has all the pistol multipliers is maxed out
No it isn't. An extra 50% headshot multiplier isn't coming close to offsetting a 53 damage slow gun. Pride has 101 base damage and a 420% head shot multiplier. The gun isn't that good. It is one of the first iconics you get in the game and it seems like a ton of people used it then thought it was good and just stuck with it and didn't really try anything else... IT ISN"T GOOD
@@kingcold5252 dont it isn't good...
Ticon is a criminally underrated weapon. The one accurate charged shot absolutely rips enemies with bolt. Combine that with the wallpuncher mod and every fight becomes a cakewalk even in harder difficulties when you can just delete enemies even from behind walls. Add in the chain lighting and everyone is dust.
Ambition is also really good vs. bosses and MaxTac. The quick charge time to release a bolt makes it very versatile and when it manages to upload the optic reboot to the enemy the bolt headshot do some serious damage even to MaxTac.
@HooverJ.Bankbean I gotta try this. Thanks
Her Majesty is broken with optical camo, a sandevistan and axolotl. Ya see, when you have optical camo active and get a kill while having axolotl equipped in decreases the CD, but if you're using it at the time of the kill it functionally extends it. Couple that mechanic with slowed time and I almost always can clear an army before becoming unstealthed. If you try this out and want to show it off, plz gimme a quick shout out, it's SUPER fun. Also to note, it's perfectly accurate while stealth so hitfire is more optimal, I'd love to send you a video showing it off
unity is more broken... you should try it
Once I got the Seraph, I threw a suppressor on it n NEVER looked back. Had the Nue, which I preferred over the Tamayura, but the Seraph was a game changer. I dunno what it is, but I even used it over things like Her Majesty for stealth. That gun, is my baby!
Thank you!! I’m glad I’m not the one only saying this lol. Explosive rounds + suppressor is so sick. It’s a one shot kill every time.
I only play I'm very hard and I never waste perk points on health or mitigation other than mid-air mitigation because I just ran out of things to put my points in
The Reflexes skill tree should have a dual wield perk at level 20. Just have no zoom in because you fire the left gun with L2 and the right gun with R2 and no consumables, its just a higher dps tradeoff for no zoom or consumables while the skill is active
Yeah! Kinda like how dual wielding in Skyrim means no block: dual wielding in cyberpunk would mean all shots are hipfire shots, without any ads. It would work seamlessly, tbh, give how many hipfire perks there already are!
a dual wielding perk should be in cool not reflexes, since... you know, wielding two guns is all about being cool, plus, what weapons could benefit from dualwielding? not assault rifles or most smg's, and cool is the stat for handguns since 2.0, especially since each stat focus on specific weapons
body for heavy weapons like lmg's or shotguns or melee weapons
reflexes for smg's or assault rifles
technicall ability for tech and explosive guns as well ciberware
inteligence for smart guns and netrunning
and cool, the stat for handguns sniper/precission rifles, thrown knifes and stealth
Yeah not everybody uses a controller... how are you this trapped in your own bubble?
@@cronft What are you talking about Cool has been the main thing for almost every single handgun build since 1.0
“How are you trapped in your own little bubble” someone took it personally 😂😂 @@thomgizziz
I love the Kongou the most just because of its looks
Good, at least you aren't delusional like half the people here that think if they like something that makes it top tier.
@@thomgizzizwho hurt you little one 🙁
29:40 would that not be a roughly 50% chance to burn?
0.8 • 0.8 • 0.8 = 0.512 1 - 0.512 = 0.488 instead of 0.2 • 3
Or am I fundamentally misunderstanding math?
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Very happy to see Chingona high up on the list. Even if you don't run two of them, getting more damage and burn chance per headshots is a nice effect, and as a Nue (way cooler of a platform than the unity) does way more single shot damage.
The problem is the headshot multiplier isn't good.
I just realized there isn't a review for the mods to attach to guns. I know it may be tedious but it be helpful to know what mods to put on which guns.
Suppressed one shot Lexingtons are literally ASMR💞
Lexington has to be used while hip-firing. It's the best trash-clearing gun in the game with the iconic explosive bullet mod.
I never got rook from the vault I only ever got money. I never knew that pistol existed. Know it makes me wonder why I never got the pistol.
You don't see it in his footage either... I never got the rook from that drop either.
Could you do a shotgun one?
Hey Sam, I think you are seriously underestimating the Catahoula pistol. This thing paired with Bolt shots shreds groups of enemies ; while it doesn't have a visual indicator of charge on it unlike most other Tech weapons, there's still an indicator for when you have to release the charge in the UI next to your Health Bar (it's an icon with arrows that point up). That or just learn the timing by heart.
After releasing the charge, you quickly press the fire button again to keep firing in full-auto, which does multiple Bolt-Chain lightning and shreds everything around. Anyone still alive will also be burning if you have the Engineer lv 55 skill. It's also satisfying as hell since, like the Lexington, you get multiple feedback sounds for headshots, as it is an automatic gun.
It's also pretty good at dismemberment for some reason. Also, its shots do go through cover, although they seem to deal less damage.
Yeah but bolt shots are hard to time
Sam, you heavily underrate Plan B, Pariah and Apparition.
Plan B has the best fire rate of all the liberty's, 200% headshot and bleed damage. Its is really good.
Pariah with the right build is just insane.
Apparition.. you're just addicted to your adrenaline / biomonitor. There are many ways to take advantage / survive being at low health (nano plating, defenzikov.. to name a few) Hell, I started playing the game without using health items to make it more interesting (yes, on very hard).
@iSuperVamp you got any Pariah footage or builds?
How is anyone on console supposed to get Scorch anyway?
After playing for a while Im going to have to go with the Lexington XMod2 with Firecracker and Parallax as the best pistol in the game when you consider criteria other than damage. Especially if youre specced into the pistol tree.
Firecracker balances out the damage while adding splash aswell. Speaking of damage, after playing with Her Majesty and the other high damage pistols I found them usually not performing as well as the LeXMod2. At least for my build. I run Sword, Knife and Pistol, two of those weapon types, one of them. So the pistol has to do more than high damage and shoot from stealth. I found myself rarely using the high damage pistols when equipped because the sword and knife were sharper options, no pun intended, since Her Majesty just couldnt do as much. They do well in stealth but are ok in open combat.
Lowest recoil. Essentially none with my build
Good carrying capacity of 20 rounds which is double Her Majesty's
Automatic fire
One of the best in range
Lots of splash damage
LeXMod2 also benefits from Focus, DeadEye, Nerves of Tungsten, and Run n Gun perks the most. Even more so the 20% reload Air Dash skill perk and Firecracker Mod having double the carrying capacity and automatic fire. And though they win in damage im pretty sure the LeXMod2 has more DPS and shorter TTK.
When it boils down, you can shoot many ways and deal with groups or one person with more tactics, strategy, and flow at many ranges. With Her Majesty I really couldnt find an excuse to bring her out against groups and at mid to close range. And at long range I had more reason to shield the wall of bullets with my sword instead of taking damage to land maybe one kill. At best I'd get one or 2 kills from cover before having to move or switch to sword in open combat.
@s3eriousbl9ck26 better than the Pride?
...I have no idea why you ranked Dex's "Plan B" Liberty handgun that low.
My dude, pick it up again and look at it's headshot damage modifier and how fast it fires. It fires almost twice as faster as a Unity or a regular Liberty. It's actually an amazing handgun.
And, oh yeah, it has a magazine capacity of 20. Not 12. Not 10.
And as for it being expensive - it isn't? With PL's new economy and payouts, you're literally swimming in eddies so long as you aren't buying every single car you can get your hands on.
It can't be that good
Best pistol hands down lizzy
I'm not sure if recent patches changeed some balancing on this weapons but I can say rigth now the seraph is way to low on this List. I didn' play PL yet but in terms of the basegame pistols I tried them all out and seraph is in my opinion on second place behind pride and slightly over johnnys gun (mainly because bigger mag, faster reload and scope, the dps is quite comparible). Don't know why he ranked la chingona dorada so high, it's not nearly on the same lvl.
@K1dd077 Why the Seraph?
There's a "center of screen dot overlay" option in accessibility settings that could be useful for your her majesty strategy
Thanks! I think 2.1 came out a couple days after this video, where they added the feature so they'd already sorted it essentially