i have been fighting for PAK ARMY online against Indian propaganda and now i feel sad and alone as i cant defend them now. This feel like betrayal and disappointment. I still love my soldiers but their superior is beyond hatred.
@@DuaaAhmed-k4psorry,I am indian but your army is corrupt And ,responsible for terrrorism in india. Genicide of kashmiri pandits. Atracks on indian parliament.
@@DuaaAhmed-k4p Im from Bangladesh,Im depressed that thousands of people sacrificed their lives for Pakistan(West+East) and our beloved Quiad, literally this man dedicated his life only for the cause of Pakistan and even if he is alive today, than what was hsi first sentence toward us? Did we sacrificed our lives or we just watching drama cowardly...Your Army not your but sadly mine also divided west from the east...they use Islam as tool ... they betrayed us, no not only us but also those Saheeds who sacrificed their lives for Muslims, for the cause of Islam and we...I'm Depressed but not Broken...Allahu Akber (Pardon my gram. mistake)
Thanks Faisal bhai for broadcasting a great interview based on truthful and legitimate information. Every well educated Pakistani is feeling the deep pain hidden in the words of Dr. Shujjat mubarik sahib. May Allah blessed Pakistan with economic prosperity and political stability Amin.
Alhamdollilah, I moved out of Pakistan 18 years ago. Situation in Pakistan was not that bad at that time and many people asked me not to leave Pakistan. I am glad that I didn't listen to them at that time. My kids were very young when they arrived here. Now they don't want to go back and love this beautiful country. Corrupt mafia has made Pakistan un-liveable.
I was 21 years old. I left pakistan in 2009. Never went back. What I was capable of doing after leaving pakistan was just amazing. So unfortunate for our country. For the past 15 years I travel to pakistan every year, trying to find 1 reason to return back, unfortunately just seeing worse as years go by.
Bravo! One of the most moving stories that have been aired from Raftar. And, one of the most insightful ones as well for all who would want to understand the brain drain phenomenon. Dr. Shujaat kept it plain and simple for the simple reason that the problems people face in Pakistan are, in reality, of a very fundamental nature. This also explains that someone is deliberately sabotaging the natural process of social and economic development. Like the host (Faisal), I am also feeling the dying pulse of a nation of 250 million people. It's is extremely painful when one tries to imagine the helplessness of the masses. But whoever gets the chance to flee from this country will not let it go. There is a lot more to human consciousness than the call of the 'moazzin' five times a day. Believe me, one can be a better muslim in one of these non-Muslim countries of the world than living in the Land of the Pure. I was Associate Professor in NED University, but left everything and immigrated to Canada at the age of 54!
It is sad to see Pakistan is being destroyed and nobody can do anything. Evil is ruling the country and the Good is leaving the country. May Allah Help the people of Pakistan. Ameen. Raftar keep this going.
Core issues: 1. Lack of freedom of speech 2. Structural economic collapse due to supremacy of one institution (lack of fair competition) 3. Corruption at institutional levels to grass root. 4. Lack of basic necessities like water, electricity, roads, education etc. 5. No accountability from individuals to institutions. 6. Lack of law, order and security 7. Institutional support to the elite and systematic pressure on general masses.
He is one of the finest Gentleman, an intellectual. It is shame to see that INTELLECTUALS like DR. SHUJA are leaving Pakistan just because of Economic Situation!!!!
I am one who came back to Pakistan after living in USA for 36 years. Of course my circumstances are different but at least there is an example. I have been in Karachi suburb (BTK) for about 3 years now
Left Pakistan as a 3 year old. Must have been hard for my parents to leave everything behind but as a 27 year old now I'm just thankful they made that decision. Alhumdulillah
Europeans have had enough now , most of the Europe is sick of immigrants. whether they are economically contributing or not . Europe has been a land of fighting tribes for over thousands of years , now divided into small countries , has been the reason of all world wars and can go back to that way very quickly. Don’t be very happy , to flee from world’s fertile lands and settling in a grim weathered, racially , culturally and ideologically alien place .
I feel fortunate. Dr. SB was my economics teacher, and he was brilliant with his academics and projects. Every "Raftarar" will agree that comparing earnings from ten years ago to now is either equal to or lower than that.. (چکر لگاتے رھیے گا مگر واپسی کا نا سوچئے گا۔ کیونکہ جس ملک نے آپ کو عزت اور روزگار دیا یہ اس ملک کے ساتھ ںاانصافی ھو گی)
Sad to know he left Pakistan. Was his student in MAJU ,as a lecturer he was approachable , humble ,critical thinker and very helpful to his students. All the best DR Shujaat Mubarak.
میں نے چند سال پہلے پاکستان چھوڑا، اور الحمدللہ، پی ایچ ڈی مکمل کرنے کے بعد فخر سے اپنے نئے ملک کی خدمت کر رہا ہوں۔ وہ پاکستانی ادارہ جس سے کبھی بےپناہ محبت تھی، آج میرے لیے سب سے زیادہ نفرت کا باعث بن چکا ہے۔ اس ادارے نے ملک کی بنیادیں ہلا کر رکھ دی ہیں۔ میں صرف امید ہی کر سکتا ہوں کہ یہ ادارہ (جس کے سربراہ اور کرتا دھرتا ایف اے پاس لوگ ہیں) یہ سمجھ سکے کہ صرف حقیقی تعلیم یافتہ اور قابل افراد ہی ایک قوم کو کامیابی کی راہ پر گامزن کر سکتے ہیں۔
This is a great interview, very informative. The guest shared some heartfelt comments on his personal decisions and his thoughts on the broader landscape. I wish him all the best in his journey. The reality is he is a classic first generation immigration story. Ties to the motherland, hopes of returning one day, missing friends & family, nostalgia for the sights and sounds etc, this is to be expected. But with my experience of a second generation Pakistani, with (now third generation) teenage children, people should realise they are gone for good. There is no coming back. There is no place in Pakistan for people like us and the country & it's elite has nothing to offer us. My humble experience to those emigrating would be to understand this is a "forever" decision. It will be hard for you, but your future generations will thank you for it. The problems in Pakistan need to be owned and addressed by the people living there. The emotional guilt and entitlement they deploy on first generation Pakistanis really sickens me. It stops them from mentally moving on and create a rift with their children.
No one likes to leave their country of birth. But when people like me see Pakistan's law and order situation , I thank Allah SWT for saving my family and I from his wrath.
Can feel the pain but grass is not greener on the other side as well (or at least that greener what we think from Pakistan). I would suggest to do the program or at least a research on how many people succeeded in their professions when they left the country. How are they surviving in their social and economical lives and how much debt each person is carrying to live a reasonable life. It is nothing to challenge but there are harsh facts waiting on the other side of the world as well. Lost of identity for generations to come is one of the biggest issues as well. Following religion as it is supposed be is everyday challenge etc. Good job Raftar, you guys are doing excellent job!
100%. I'm also living in west for more than a decade but that inner peace is not there and I'm still trying to do some soul searching. One thing I realized that I can never properly fit in the western world because of my priorities, unless someone becomes completely white washed and lose their religion and identity. One can never have everything they like. We always have to make a sacrifice, but it depends what we sacrifice.
I predict this situation back in 2009. When I was doing bank job after my bba in 2007. Toxic work culture no safety in roads. Political strikes load shedding and other issues. I decided to move and came to Australia in 2010 for Masters in Accounting and now Allhumdullia now I am citizen and doing very decent job here. Nothing is change yet as my predictions were absolutely right .
When I left Pakistan almost 45 years ago for higher education to USA I thought it was the best country in the world, and I had every intention of going back. But now just visiting Pakistan seems scary. Just imagine getting into a simple accident on a road with one of those powerful people and your life could be over. Lack of law and order and justice is my most major concern. I was the first one from my family, but unfortunately, now 90% of my entire family has moved to either Usa or Canada. My one sister who lived in Islamabad told me she will never leave Pakistan. She loves it too much but now she is living in the USA with her son. What a beautiful country Pakistan is with so many blessings from God, but these corrupt generals and corrupt politicians have run it into the ground . I hope and pray it survives, but i’m afraid the light at the end of the tunnel, maybe turned off due to lack of electricity 😢
The correct word is actually "disheartened". "Disheartened" is an adjective that means feeling discouraged, disappointed, or dispirited. Example: "I was disheartened by the news that my favorite restaurant had closed down." "Dishart" is not a valid word in the English language, and "disharted" is a common misspelling of "disheartened".
I completed my bachelors in 2012 and worked for a private company for almost 2 years. In those 2 years i realized there was no way i would be able to support my family unless i compromised on my morals and started taking money under the table. I left Pakistan that year and the only regret i have is not being able to see my parents more regularly
I feel what Dr sb is going through, I left Pakistan this year in July, I am also an academic, served in a University in Karachi for five years and I agree with every bit he has explained. I was also the same patriotic person who came back from UK after post graduation in 2017 and started working for the betterment of the country. I wanted to share my experience and knowledge with the youth which is why I jojned higher education sector, apart from that I also wanted to contribute in the economy so I started a business as well. But lack of infrastructure, lack of discipline, law and order and most importantly lack of morality left me so disappointed that i decided to move abroad. Alhamdulillah now I am working in a top Canadian university and living a life in which my basic rights are met.
Doctor Sb is being too optimistic about the UK. First of all, the cost of living which has made it really difficult for a normal person with standard income of £30k to £35k to buy a house in the UK and at the same time education and healthcare which he underlines as free is not actually free. For Education, children up until the age of 18 receive free education but once the start University they have to pay and that is 9.5k every year depending on whether its a BA and MA. Education which he talks about being free is useless because its only for a certain age group and in order to go further you have to pay and if you don't go further you can't do much with A Levels 😂. Also, Free Healthcare, the National Insurance which a normal person pays on a monthly basis contributes mainly to the Healthcare so in reality nothing is free. Doctor Sb if you and your children are spending their lives in the UK why do you want to be buried in Pakistan as you will have made no contribution to that country 😂
Went to study abroad in year 2000 and never once thought I’m leaving for good but the way situation deteriorated in Pakistan ended up staying overseas. Every year I thought I’ll move back until 2022. After 2022 I resigned to the fact that it’s not going to happen 🙂↕️
I was a student of his at MAJU from 2011 to 2013, where I studied economics, and whatever he mentioned, I have been experiencing during my banking tenure of 10 years, like he said, I have experienced the same thing, which he mentioned last point where he was complacent, I have experienced the same reaction from the society, although during those time, many individuals were supportive to me, but the societal reactions he was mentioning, I clearly experienced the same, Sir.
Karachi ko suba bananay se kuch nai hoga. Pakistan's issues stem from corruption, inaptitude and mismanagement from top to bottom, ek aur suba bun bhi gaya to ye maslay usher bhi aapko Nazar aaien gay
After 26th amendment this country has literaly loosen the right to be called a sovereign welfare country. We are dying as a nation especially after lack of sovereign judicial system we are hopeless. I myself is shifting my business which is almost 60 years old from my Grandfather. Can you keep your children in a law less corrupt and unethical groomed society. Definitely no and your host has taken the best decision.
I left Pakistan to move a western country over 6 years ago. My reasons are law and order and exploitation by corporate sector who abuse employees. There is no justice in Pakistan and Alhamdulilah Allah saved me from this country.
@@santusanturohit4832 It's Lindus trying to turn every country into India, not Pakistanis. Go see some videos to guage your reputation in the western world.
I came out of the country thinking that I would return back soon. After 32+ years still away from the country and feel like not returning back. My children are very religious but they also think, law and order and political situation is such that, not returning back is the right decision. Wallah Alam.
I am living in the city the one you are talking about since 27 years. Things aren't as great as you have described. You are one of those who might be highly paid and living in secure accommodation provided by your employer. Just try to go into sighthill area just a mile away trust me you will say Pakistan is safe. There are many areas where you can't even go during the bright day light. Medical facilities has a waiting list over a year. Train tickets are one of the most expensive in the world because you pay insurance in your ticket that's why they compensate you. Majority of the parents specially the one have daughters don't want them to grow up.
First time listening to your podcast and glad to catch up with this conversation. I too never wanted to settle abroad permanently but when I tried to move back to an rather digitally proactive academic organization that claims to be what not, as a professor, I was literally shocked at the work culture in higher education, breach of research ethics and like so much of unnecessary corruption and the fact that people are so ok with it. I just had to pack my bags and run. All that is just not what I can deal with anymore. So even when I say to my colleagues (in same shoes as mine) sometimes پتھر اپنی اصل جگہ بھاری ہوتا ہے, irrespective of how much recognition you get abroad, the lifestyle, there is always a sense of belonging and ‘to matter’ that lingers … I too dream of returning to Pakistan in a genuine and authentic setting… a dream that’s getting faded with time though
I left Karachi right after my BBA from Hamdard university in 1999. I migrated to Toronto Canada 🇨🇦. Life can’t get any better. I’m proud of my decision. I’m a proud Canadian citizen 🇨🇦💪🏼
He is very negative minded person I lived abroad for many years and l know what challenges he is going to face in future and will regret his decision of moving abroad but it will be too late for him to return back
It would really be too good if the people because of whom the youth have to leave, watch this post and feel some guilt and shame My salute to Raftar team gor raising such important issues.
Pakistan's politicians, feudal lords , officers above grade 22 , and all Army Generals , Travel on Diplomatic Passport ( Blue colour not the green) . And on this passport the visa questions answers and conditions also are different. At least no any country's immigration stops you or resist against your entry.
I am an engineer. My wife is a dentist. We both had government jobs. We didn't have enough in to make ends meet. We both moved to the UK. I got PS5 with my very first pay, which it would have gotten a year to get in Pakistan.
Excellent information and analysis. He has tried to explain the core issues which is making Pakistan a difficult country to live. May be in the coming future this country will be difficult to survive as present due to its unique geographical location...
Pakistan m puri study ki m ny become a medical doctor but facing low salary issues and no safety and security at all now in Singapore happily living life alhamdulillah but dill nhe tha mera bhi Pakistan chorny ka 💔
What kind of global scholar is this guy who says that that his kids are getting “free” school and “free” lunch and “free”healthcare. And he says he is an expert in the general topic of economics. Nothing is ever free without someone paying for it. In Scotland, free schooling and free school lunch and free healthcare is supported by taxpayer money. I hope this guy is paying his taxes in Scotland.
I was convinced by my father to leave Pakistan 6 years ago although I left unwillingly but now I feel that was the best decision of my life which he helped me took. BTW I tried going back after I finished my masters degree spent 5 months trying to hang-on to something and stay but didn’t happened.
I left Pakistan on 2nd Feb 1972. Things were bad for middle class back then. No job after doing Bsc . No money to bribe or any big time connections. Never been a victim of street crime up till now here. You took street crime as it happens everywhere. Karachi was safe at 2 in the morning. Since then these criminals on the top have destroyed the country. You people have no idea. When we go on vacation we let the police know that we will be gone for 4 weeks. They do extra patrolling around the house. You can’t even think about this in Pakistan. I don’t see bright future for you guys. Last 4 years has been the worst. I agree one institution is too powerful.
He is explaining his situation now I left army Pakistan in 1992 to keep my dignity respect and self-confidence safe
i have been fighting for PAK ARMY online against Indian propaganda and now i feel sad and alone as i cant defend them now. This feel like betrayal and disappointment. I still love my soldiers but their superior is beyond hatred.
Salute Sir
Can't aspect from an army person... civilians, may Allah help us all.
@@DuaaAhmed-k4psorry,I am indian but your army is corrupt
And ,responsible for terrrorism in india. Genicide of kashmiri pandits. Atracks on indian parliament.
@@DuaaAhmed-k4p Im from Bangladesh,Im depressed that thousands of people sacrificed their lives for Pakistan(West+East) and our beloved Quiad, literally this man dedicated his life only for the cause of Pakistan and even if he is alive today, than what was hsi first sentence toward us? Did we sacrificed our lives or we just watching drama cowardly...Your Army not your but sadly mine also divided west from the east...they use Islam as tool ... they betrayed us, no not only us but also those Saheeds who sacrificed their lives for Muslims, for the cause of Islam and we...I'm Depressed but not Broken...Allahu Akber (Pardon my gram. mistake)
My teacher in Mohammad Ali Jinnah University during my MBA. A Great man
Bhai, I gave up, too. I moved back from USA to Pakistan from 2002 to 2008. But unfortunately it is impossible to live there. It's a fail state.
Thanks Faisal bhai for broadcasting a great interview based on truthful and legitimate information. Every well educated Pakistani is feeling the deep pain hidden in the words of Dr. Shujjat mubarik sahib. May Allah blessed Pakistan with economic prosperity and political stability Amin.
Betrayers are never blessed with prosperity and stability. India was betrayed.
Alhamdollilah, I moved out of Pakistan 18 years ago. Situation in Pakistan was not that bad at that time and many people asked me not to leave Pakistan. I am glad that I didn't listen to them at that time. My kids were very young when they arrived here. Now they don't want to go back and love this beautiful country. Corrupt mafia has made Pakistan un-liveable.
@kazsid2995 same as my story. Even the time line.
Dr.Shujaat ,my visionary teacher, and memories from Mohammad Ali Jinnah University Karachi, 2010😊
I was 21 years old.
I left pakistan in 2009.
Never went back.
What I was capable of doing after leaving pakistan was just amazing.
So unfortunate for our country.
For the past 15 years I travel to pakistan every year, trying to find 1 reason to return back, unfortunately just seeing worse as years go by.
Sir how you are going and in which country you are and what are you doing ❤❤❤❤❤❤
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Buhat he Zabardast ! , sab dil ke batain aur wo b saf saf 👍 , Well Done Raftar !
Bravo! One of the most moving stories that have been aired from Raftar. And, one of the most insightful ones as well for all who would want to understand the brain drain phenomenon.
Dr. Shujaat kept it plain and simple for the simple reason that the problems people face in Pakistan are, in reality, of a very fundamental nature. This also explains that someone is deliberately sabotaging the natural process of social and economic development.
Like the host (Faisal), I am also feeling the dying pulse of a nation of 250 million people. It's is extremely painful when one tries to imagine the helplessness of the masses. But whoever gets the chance to flee from this country will not let it go. There is a lot more to human consciousness than the call of the 'moazzin' five times a day. Believe me, one can be a better muslim in one of these non-Muslim countries of the world than living in the Land of the Pure.
I was Associate Professor in NED University, but left everything and immigrated to Canada at the age of 54!
It is sad to see Pakistan is being destroyed and nobody can do anything. Evil is ruling the country and the Good is leaving the country. May Allah Help the people of Pakistan. Ameen. Raftar keep this going.
Core issues:
1. Lack of freedom of speech
2. Structural economic collapse due to supremacy of one institution (lack of fair competition)
3. Corruption at institutional levels to grass root.
4. Lack of basic necessities like water, electricity, roads, education etc.
5. No accountability from individuals to institutions.
6. Lack of law, order and security
7. Institutional support to the elite and systematic pressure on general masses.
you forgot religious fanaticism
Very true
He is one of the finest Gentleman, an intellectual. It is shame to see that INTELLECTUALS like DR. SHUJA are leaving Pakistan just because of Economic Situation!!!!
I am one who came back to Pakistan after living in USA for 36 years. Of course my circumstances are different but at least there is an example. I have been in Karachi suburb (BTK) for about 3 years now
BTW BTK is very good place for retired people
@@farazahmed6295agreed 100 percent.
Will you please mention the meaning of BTK and BTW
@@mujahidhussain6264BTW stands for By the way and BTK is Bahria Town Karachi
How is your experience coming back and living in Karachi again.
Dr. Sahab is representing every Pakistani except few Ashrafiya.
Left Pakistan as a 3 year old. Must have been hard for my parents to leave everything behind but as a 27 year old now I'm just thankful they made that decision. Alhumdulillah
Almost 10 years out of shit place.. feel lucky and blessed
Become European and accept their culture.
baal baal bach gaya bhai tu
@@sasnad3 haha don't i know it
Europeans have had enough now , most of the Europe is sick of immigrants. whether they are economically contributing or not . Europe has been a land of fighting tribes for over thousands of years , now divided into small countries , has been the reason of all world wars and can go back to that way very quickly. Don’t be very happy , to flee from world’s fertile lands and settling in a grim weathered, racially , culturally and ideologically alien place .
I feel fortunate. Dr. SB was my economics teacher, and he was brilliant with his academics and projects. Every "Raftarar" will agree that comparing earnings from ten years ago to now is either equal to or lower than that.. (چکر لگاتے رھیے گا مگر واپسی کا نا سوچئے گا۔ کیونکہ جس ملک نے آپ کو عزت اور روزگار دیا یہ اس ملک کے ساتھ ںاانصافی ھو گی)
Bus kerdo ek baar pfgi e say bahar nahi ata thaa... na kam na kuch .. busbatain kerwalo
What a gem 💎
Salute to Dr. Sahib. Hope he comes back one day and takes us forward.
What a difference there is between an educated person and an illiterate person.The heart was happy after hearing the conversation of the professor❤❤
Sad to know he left Pakistan. Was his student in MAJU ,as a lecturer he was approachable , humble ,critical thinker and very helpful to his students.
All the best DR Shujaat Mubarak.
What about Sir Babar Saleem?
It seems like he is pouring my heart out.
Hail imran khan 🎉🎉🎉
Save democracy. Free pasthunistan.
Paki Punjabis need gulag treatment
The name of the Chaudhary is Nizam Deen
میں نے چند سال پہلے پاکستان چھوڑا، اور الحمدللہ، پی ایچ ڈی مکمل کرنے کے بعد فخر سے اپنے نئے ملک کی خدمت کر رہا ہوں۔ وہ پاکستانی ادارہ جس سے کبھی بےپناہ محبت تھی، آج میرے لیے سب سے زیادہ نفرت کا باعث بن چکا ہے۔ اس ادارے نے ملک کی بنیادیں ہلا کر رکھ دی ہیں۔ میں صرف امید ہی کر سکتا ہوں کہ یہ ادارہ (جس کے سربراہ اور کرتا دھرتا ایف اے پاس لوگ ہیں) یہ سمجھ سکے کہ صرف حقیقی تعلیم یافتہ اور قابل افراد ہی ایک قوم کو کامیابی کی راہ پر گامزن کر سکتے ہیں۔
@@Learner_123 بلکلُ ۔
میری بھی یہی کھانی ہے ۔
If a well educated and qualified person of Pakistan like Dr. Shujaat mubarak have THREE kids then Pakistan is really in trouble 😂😂😂
Only 3. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
atleast not billions like lindu rap capital where u have to smell arm pits of others in train
This is a great interview, very informative. The guest shared some heartfelt comments on his personal decisions and his thoughts on the broader landscape. I wish him all the best in his journey.
The reality is he is a classic first generation immigration story. Ties to the motherland, hopes of returning one day, missing friends & family, nostalgia for the sights and sounds etc, this is to be expected.
But with my experience of a second generation Pakistani, with (now third generation) teenage children, people should realise they are gone for good. There is no coming back. There is no place in Pakistan for people like us and the country & it's elite has nothing to offer us.
My humble experience to those emigrating would be to understand this is a "forever" decision. It will be hard for you, but your future generations will thank you for it.
The problems in Pakistan need to be owned and addressed by the people living there. The emotional guilt and entitlement they deploy on first generation Pakistanis really sickens me. It stops them from mentally moving on and create a rift with their children.
Came back to Pakistan before 2 years and facing alot of challenges, may Allah maakes it easy for all. aamen
No one likes to leave their country of birth. But when people like me see Pakistan's law and order situation , I thank Allah SWT for saving my family and I from his wrath.
Ur Allah and their followers destroyed ur country ,use ur brain
The way he conveyed truthfully every aspect! , amazing.
Can feel the pain but grass is not greener on the other side as well (or at least that greener what we think from Pakistan). I would suggest to do the program or at least a research on how many people succeeded in their professions when they left the country. How are they surviving in their social and economical lives and how much debt each person is carrying to live a reasonable life. It is nothing to challenge but there are harsh facts waiting on the other side of the world as well. Lost of identity for generations to come is one of the biggest issues as well. Following religion as it is supposed be is everyday challenge etc. Good job Raftar, you guys are doing excellent job!
100%. I'm also living in west for more than a decade but that inner peace is not there and I'm still trying to do some soul searching. One thing I realized that I can never properly fit in the western world because of my priorities, unless someone becomes completely white washed and lose their religion and identity. One can never have everything they like. We always have to make a sacrifice, but it depends what we sacrifice.
I predict this situation back in 2009. When I was doing bank job after my bba in 2007. Toxic work culture no safety in roads. Political strikes load shedding and other issues. I decided to move and came to Australia in 2010 for Masters in Accounting and now Allhumdullia now I am citizen and doing very decent job here. Nothing is change yet as my predictions were absolutely right .
I predicted it in 1989, and left the building
When I left Pakistan almost 45 years ago for higher education to USA I thought it was the best country in the world, and I had every intention of going back.
But now just visiting Pakistan seems scary. Just imagine getting into a simple accident on a road with one of those powerful people and your life could be over. Lack of law and order and justice is my most major concern. I was the first one from my family, but unfortunately, now 90% of my entire family has moved to either Usa or Canada. My one sister who lived in Islamabad told me she will never leave Pakistan. She loves it too much but now she is living in the USA with her son.
What a beautiful country Pakistan is with so many blessings from God, but these corrupt generals and corrupt politicians have run it into the ground . I hope and pray it survives, but i’m afraid the light at the end of the tunnel, maybe turned off due to lack of electricity 😢
Agree with him 100%
The correct word is actually "disheartened".
"Disheartened" is an adjective that means feeling discouraged, disappointed, or dispirited.
Example: "I was disheartened by the news that my favorite restaurant had closed down."
"Dishart" is not a valid word in the English language, and "disharted" is a common misspelling of "disheartened".
And now thanks to Asim Munir!!
Bap hai tumhara asim.
@@ArsalanGhoruiThat’s the sick mentality
@@ArsalanGhoruighareed farooqi app ke mama han ?
Great personality.
100% agree
Bus kerdo.. yehan koi kaa, nhi kerta thaa yeh.. office mai para rehta thaa
Another excellent conversation here!
Mai bhi un khushnaseebo me hoon jo do mahinay pehlay iss qaid se azad honay mai kamyaab hua.
Interviewee se darkhwast hai ke soil woil bhool jain
SHaram karo pakistan tumhara mulk pehchann hai
he is talking our hearts
Thank god I left 30 years ago to USA
what is this love for soil?! my mother died in June we burried her here in a peaceful cemetery. I am living in N. America for almost 35. years
Much appreciated. Mazeed be aisay programs karay. It's a wake up call for us.
I completed my bachelors in 2012 and worked for a private company for almost 2 years. In those 2 years i realized there was no way i would be able to support my family unless i compromised on my morals and started taking money under the table. I left Pakistan that year and the only regret i have is not being able to see my parents more regularly
What a man ❤
VERY WELL SAID SIR. SAME PAIN FOR EVERY PATRIOTS PAKISTANI WHO LIVE OUT OF PAKISTAN 🇵🇰.
Hail imran khan 🎉🎉🎉
Save democracy. Free pasthunistan.
PPP and PMLN has hate for Karachi and Urdu speaking
Really voice of majority ppl in pakistan, wish to get guidance from this wonderful man
Good channel for informative videos
When your future generations leave Islam, just don’t blame them, as it’s you who made the decision to move to a non Muslim country!
I feel what Dr sb is going through, I left Pakistan this year in July, I am also an academic, served in a University in Karachi for five years and I agree with every bit he has explained. I was also the same patriotic person who came back from UK after post graduation in 2017 and started working for the betterment of the country. I wanted to share my experience and knowledge with the youth which is why I jojned higher education sector, apart from that I also wanted to contribute in the economy so I started a business as well. But lack of infrastructure, lack of discipline, law and order and most importantly lack of morality left me so disappointed that i decided to move abroad. Alhamdulillah now I am working in a top Canadian university and living a life in which my basic rights are met.
As someone who has moved to Scotland last year, i totally relate to what Dr sb is saying!
Edinburgh is best
Doctor Sb is being too optimistic about the UK. First of all, the cost of living which has made it really difficult for a normal person with standard income of £30k to £35k to buy a house in the UK and at the same time education and healthcare which he underlines as free is not actually free. For Education, children up until the age of 18 receive free education but once the start University they have to pay and that is 9.5k every year depending on whether its a BA and MA. Education which he talks about being free is useless because its only for a certain age group and in order to go further you have to pay and if you don't go further you can't do much with A Levels 😂. Also, Free Healthcare, the National Insurance which a normal person pays on a monthly basis contributes mainly to the Healthcare so in reality nothing is free. Doctor Sb if you and your children are spending their lives in the UK why do you want to be buried in Pakistan as you will have made no contribution to that country 😂
Went to study abroad in year 2000 and never once thought I’m leaving for good but the way situation deteriorated in Pakistan ended up staying overseas. Every year I thought I’ll move back until 2022. After 2022 I resigned to the fact that it’s not going to happen 🙂↕️
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Please save my home city Parachinar.
Parachinar under attack
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Pakistan
Kaisey
Bhai, pooray Pakistan ko save karnay ka time aa gaya hai inn Madurchod Generals se. They have ruined the future of 25 crore people.
@@missahmed2220 you don't know that how parachinar 💔 is everyday bleeding 🩸
So our pakistan media ignore my home city
Are you okay right? How are things in Parachinar right now? I hope everyone recovers from their loss.
I was a student of his at MAJU from 2011 to 2013, where I studied economics, and whatever he mentioned, I have been experiencing during my banking tenure of 10 years, like he said, I have experienced the same thing, which he mentioned last point where he was complacent, I have experienced the same reaction from the society, although during those time, many individuals were supportive to me, but the societal reactions he was mentioning, I clearly experienced the same, Sir.
No words 😶 Raftar ❤
Karachi Soba Zaruri hai,
Karachi ko suba bananay se kuch nai hoga. Pakistan's issues stem from corruption, inaptitude and mismanagement from top to bottom, ek aur suba bun bhi gaya to ye maslay usher bhi aapko Nazar aaien gay
Great Reflection. A reality.
Hail imran khan 🎉🎉🎉
Save democracy. Free pasthunistan.
Very informative. Thank you
very informative conversation by an intelligent doctor.
After 26th amendment this country has literaly loosen the right to be called a sovereign welfare country. We are dying as a nation especially after lack of sovereign judicial system we are hopeless. I myself is shifting my business which is almost 60 years old from my Grandfather. Can you keep your children in a law less corrupt and unethical groomed society. Definitely no and your host has taken the best decision.
My Guru 😢
❤ journalism is 10/10. But corrupt regime doesn't cares because there is no accountability.
I left Pakistan to move a western country over 6 years ago. My reasons are law and order and exploitation by corporate sector who abuse employees. There is no justice in Pakistan and Alhamdulilah Allah saved me from this country.
What job you are in that country
But who will save your residing country which you are dreaming to make Pakistan
@@santusanturohit4832 It's Lindus trying to turn every country into India, not Pakistanis. Go see some videos to guage your reputation in the western world.
@@OmairAKThat’s not the case in the UK. Here, people don’t mind Indian’s as they tend to integrate, which most Pakistani’s have difficulty with……
میں بھی جہاز میں بیٹھ کے بہت رویا تھا بس فرق یہ ہے کہ وہ آنسو خوشی کے تھے 🥹🥹
Hahah..lanat!
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😂😂😂😂 OMG I was listening with sad mood then read your comment 😂😂😂. It makes me laugh
Great teacher, great views.
I came out of the country thinking that I would return back soon.
After 32+ years still away from the country and feel like not returning back.
My children are very religious but they also think, law and order and political situation is such that, not returning back is the right decision. Wallah Alam.
My project supervisor .
Can your share your contact details with me? I have to discuss someyimg with you?
I am living in the city the one you are talking about since 27 years. Things aren't as great as you have described. You are one of those who might be highly paid and living in secure accommodation provided by your employer. Just try to go into sighthill area just a mile away trust me you will say Pakistan is safe. There are many areas where you can't even go during the bright day light. Medical facilities has a waiting list over a year. Train tickets are one of the most expensive in the world because you pay insurance in your ticket that's why they compensate you. Majority of the parents specially the one have daughters don't want them to grow up.
Astonishing to listen to Dr. Sb story. I know him from Szabist and IoBM.
First time listening to your podcast and glad to catch up with this conversation. I too never wanted to settle abroad permanently but when I tried to move back to an rather digitally proactive academic organization that claims to be what not, as a professor, I was literally shocked at the work culture in higher education, breach of research ethics and like so much of unnecessary corruption and the fact that people are so ok with it. I just had to pack my bags and run. All that is just not what I can deal with anymore. So even when I say to my colleagues (in same shoes as mine) sometimes پتھر اپنی اصل جگہ بھاری ہوتا ہے, irrespective of how much recognition you get abroad, the lifestyle, there is always a sense of belonging and ‘to matter’ that lingers … I too dream of returning to Pakistan in a genuine and authentic setting… a dream that’s getting faded with time though
Brilliant Raftar
I left Karachi right after my BBA from Hamdard university in 1999. I migrated to Toronto Canada 🇨🇦. Life can’t get any better. I’m proud of my decision. I’m a proud Canadian citizen 🇨🇦💪🏼
He is 110% right.
Very true I’m 100% agree with him
He is very negative minded person
I lived abroad for many years and l know what challenges he is going to face in future and will regret his decision of moving abroad but it will be too late for him to return back
If you are educated enough you can survive my uncle also moved to uk with his family and everything is going well for him there
Better to cry in Western than in Pakistan@@SMian-ed7ld
yaallah doctor sahab ko kamyabi hasil hoo ameen
34:39 kiya baat ki hai
Chaudhry ka daira 😊. So true
It would really be too good if the people because of whom the youth have to leave, watch this post and feel some guilt and shame
My salute to Raftar team gor raising such important issues.
Can we sort solutions to solve for live in pakistan
iam his student, he is the best teacher no doubt.
Good luck on your endeavors ... I can feel your pain ... its a big loss for Pakistan ...
Pakistan's politicians, feudal lords , officers above grade 22 , and all Army Generals , Travel on Diplomatic Passport ( Blue colour not the green) . And on this passport the visa questions answers and conditions also are different. At least no any country's immigration stops you or resist against your entry.
I left Pakistan, also I've the same story
I am an engineer. My wife is a dentist. We both had government jobs. We didn't have enough in to make ends meet. We both moved to the UK. I got PS5 with my very first pay, which it would have gotten a year to get in Pakistan.
sab ka yehi hal hay bhai. Allah rehem farmaye. ameen.
Fix the basic necessaties: Water, electricity, gas, road and transport.
The interviewer should have asked" What is the viability of Pakistan as a functioning state in the near future ?
Excellent information and analysis. He has tried to explain the core issues which is making Pakistan a difficult country to live. May be in the coming future this country will be difficult to survive as present due to its unique geographical location...
Everything is rightly said. Can't agree more!
Hail imran khan 🎉🎉🎉
Save democracy. Free pasthunistan.
This is a story of any and every Pakistani. He is no different however there must be some reason for inviting him for this interview
شکر ھے
آج حقیقی مسائیل پر بات کی ھے
ڈاکٹر ذاکر نائیک کے مطابق، پاکستان میں رہتے ہوئے جنت میں جانے کے چانسز زیادہ ہے 😊
Pakistan se Zindabhaag!!
I would like to be a part of Dr sahab's association fpr helping Pakistanis abroad, is there any way to contact Dr sahab?
Another Phd in London UK
Sad 😢situation. He is right that in last 3 years things got worse from bad. It’s irreversible now
Pakistan m puri study ki m ny become a medical doctor but facing low salary issues and no safety and security at all now in Singapore happily living life alhamdulillah but dill nhe tha mera bhi Pakistan chorny ka 💔
I'm in dubai.. choti job krta hon.. ab ghr nhi ja sakta bhot dil krta ha parents sy milny ka
Chaudhary ka dera 💯 agreed 👍🏻
Dr saab....plz.....Dr javed iqbal saab ko zaroor suny
My teacher Sir Shujat
What kind of global scholar is this guy who says that that his kids are getting “free” school and “free” lunch and “free”healthcare. And he says he is an expert in the general topic of economics.
Nothing is ever free without someone paying for it. In Scotland, free schooling and free school lunch and free healthcare is supported by taxpayer money.
I hope this guy is paying his taxes in Scotland.
I was convinced by my father to leave Pakistan 6 years ago although I left unwillingly but now I feel that was the best decision of my life which he helped me took.
BTW I tried going back after I finished my masters degree spent 5 months trying to hang-on to something and stay but didn’t happened.
Your father literally saved you from hell on this world, always be grateful to him for that
I left Pakistan on 2nd Feb 1972. Things were bad for middle class back then. No job after doing Bsc . No money to bribe or any big time connections. Never been a victim of street crime up till now here. You took street crime as it happens everywhere. Karachi was safe at 2 in the morning. Since then these criminals on the top have destroyed the country. You people have no idea. When we go on vacation we let the police know that we will be gone for 4 weeks. They do extra patrolling around the house. You can’t even think about this in Pakistan. I don’t see bright future for you guys. Last 4 years has been the worst. I agree one institution is too powerful.
@@zahidq5646
Please don't blame the great top leader Altaf Hussain.