What on Earth Happened to the Phoenicians?
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- What on Earth happened to the Phoenicians and Carthaginians of the ancient Middle East and North Africa? Today we're going to be looking at the ancient Phoenicians and what they've contributed to European, Middle Eastern and global society, as well as quickly touching up on the modern people of the Middle East and North Africa, and their possible connections to these very old, underrated historical nations.
Be sure to let me know your thoughts on the ancient Phoenicians and thanks for watching!
Sources:
www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S00...
stepfeed.com/dna-tests-prove-...
phoenicia.org/today.html
www.the961.com/facts-about-ph...
(I don't necessarily agree with 100% of claims in the source material.)
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Carthage: the colony that got so big it made colonies.
Then who is the rome?
Brian Diehl At this rate probably the Chinese
My favorite bit about that aspect is that, as I'm aware, "Carthage" (aka Carthago according to the Romans) meant something close to "New City" in ancient Phoenician, but in Punic and later latin, their largest Iberian colony was Nova Carthago, which would mean that the name of the city was "The New New City."
It's not all that crazy a naming convention either. A lot of cities are named "the new city" in their respective languages. Novgorod in Russia, for example.
Rome was a colony of trojan refugees. Etruscan was the native people of italian peninsula.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe In ancient Canaanite or Punic, 'new town' was qarta hadashta. The Arabic cognate would be qaryah hadithah. Except that in Arabic qaryah is used to mean 'village'. Where Canaanite has sh, Arabic has th.
The Mediterranean have such a glorious history! They should be so proud!
New Ideas we are ❤️
Our pride can sonetimes be our problem though. Yes, our ancestors and history is full of bright (or not so bright) moments, always interesting, for sure, but we rely on that a bit more than we should, rather than make our own achievements, especially us Greeks.
Why thank you
Us Greek we are the gods of Europe no Kong’s of earth 😎😂🇬🇷💪
You mean...the region has just the most documented history. Even spaniards burned our history into ashes so they can brain wash people.
Phoenician subtitles, please.
lol
As a lebanese i'll be able to understand for sure👌🏻
phoenician god oh seriously? 😂
@@Askme2200 yep as i can speak arabic, and syriac, and both are derivative from phoenician, like latin and italian for example, but the alphabet is different, btw i tried it, and i understood about 50 percent ( old phoenician text), btw in the lebanese dialect we still use a lots of phoenician words, including: mokh= brain, bakkir= early , bayt= home, shams= sun... etc
@@Askme2200 there is a poet/philosopher named Said Akl who created a new lebanese alphabet based on latin letters, and he was the creator of phoenicianism , as a political view of lebanon in the last century , google it if u want..cheers from beirut🍸
Proud of our phoenician heritage.. proudly lebanese! 🇱🇧🇱🇧
They are semetic
@@aryanrawat4270 it's semitic* and yes they are.
@@phoeniciangod3629 totally true. So they are arabs
@@aryanrawat4270 get some education bro, not wasting my time again.
@@phoeniciangod3629 I m not uneducated man. Arabs and phoenicians are semetic.
Growing up in Australia my personal experience is that Christian Lebanese tend to believe they are Phoenician and Moslem Lebanese tend to believe they are Arabs. Whatever the truth, the ancient Phoenicians definitely deserve more recognition for their achievements, especially the alphabet.
Lol who told you that? That is certainly not true, no Lebanese likes to be considered Arab lmao 😂😂 we look down upon them. Atleast i do
Well the Muslim Lebs in the country defiantly behave like Arabs, the Christians Lebs are generally well behaved. Not a single Christian was in the Belal Skaf gangs. All of them followed the religion of peace. I am from South Africa and Lebs here are Christian and are considered white people.
I'm Christian Lebanese and I KNOW I'm Arabic
@@redshadow4146 nah bro I'm Lebanese and I'm proud to call myself an arab
@@CharbelFak Why do you want to be Arab? Wouldn't you rather identify with the Phoenician civilization?
A friend of mine spent a year in Lebanon, and told me he met a lot of Lebanese who identify as Phoenician, including a few who wanted to write Lebanese Arabic in the old Phoenician script as a mark of their identity.
Phonecia has nothing to do with carthage
@@user-hn5ln5bx1w You sure about that chief?
Some phoenicians are living in lisbon.
The city was funded by them as a colony
You can see their port, houses and eveything under the new city.
others are in lebanon, etc
Phoenicians ruled from the north of the Nile river all the way up to the south of the Nile river (The Mediterranean Coast) They were all over Africa/Nubia
Prefer Not To Say and from Mauritius in fenicia anatolia meditaraneans beach
Fe Ch I meant from the white nile, up through Egypt leading from the Nile river up to the Mediterranean coast, the Nile is shorter than it was centuries ago but it’s still long af, older maps had passages to the Red Sea.
LOrd of bEES almost all Phoenicians are in Lebanon
They are still living in Sardinia.
Please do a thorough video on Cyprus. From antiquity until now. Languages spoken throughout history. And cultural identity of the people throughout the same periods.
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Qubrus
Caaaaats
I'm Lebanese Christian I do not identify as arab..arabians are from Arabia. We speak arabic like americans speak english yet americans generally do not identify as British because they speak english...the romans are now known as Italians the phoenicians are now known as the Lebanese but for some reason the greeks are still the greeks. lol
Well, we would've became city-states otherwise and people would start identifying as athenians, spartans ect. Not to mention Greece is basically Byzantium but the way Byzantines identified. So it's more of, all of the byzantine main cultures made up the Greeks and all of the city-states of ancient Greece made up the Greeks. Yeah if a country has such an extreme ass timeline confusing shit like this happens.
P.S. The main cultures of byzantium were Greek, Pontic and Latin, but the Latin culture is a fuckfest so now the Hispanic, Italian and Greek cultures have Latin in them, and Latin has Italian and Greek culture in it. Yeah ik confusing.
P.S.S. Also, the Greeks speak Greek like Byzantines did, the Byzantines had amlost no difference with Greeks, other than their idea of being Romans with Greek culture. Once again, fucking wierd.
Old Man Khaki Greeks are not Greeks by Greek people. They are Hellenes. Greek is a Latin term for a group of Byzantines called the Graecans. I don't know why the whole nation has been given this name. My grandfather who is about 90 calls himself Roman. We are from Cyprus. If you go to Istanbul you will see Greek writing saying Vasilia Romeon which means Roman Kingdom. Julius Ceaser's last words were spoken in Greek according to alot of sources. He said "You too my son?" To Brutus. I think if you were able to go back in time you'd find that people did not label themselves with the modern day terms we use today.
Well you should have said "The Irish speak english but they're not british" because Americans are in the end of the day British immigrants.
@x9o0 I agree that Ireland would be a more proper example, however it is not true that the Americans are British immigrants. If we talk about the white population of the US they are a mix of several cultures that colonized North America such as the English, the Germans, and the Dutch to name a few.
True, you're not wrong about that, but they are still immigrants, which is why I prefer Ireland as an example.
Arabic is a language, many Arabs are genetically mixed.
About like Americans -
Let's recall a time when the world was entranced by the stories of Arabia - there was a Fairtale feeling about the entire culture -
It only required Media to feed another picture to both people to arrive at this bitter place.
I'm pleased I choose my own Thoughts -
Peace and Empathy be the energies of this vast planet.
Judaism is a religion,the same principle.
Arab are not race even the The Arabian Gulf people are mixed ofArameans and ethiopian or sudanese not sure which one of them
@@Moonlight-ci6sx
Arabs are diffirent groups .. ( semite ) its race. In same time its identity and culture .
Mr Voy I know iam Arab my self but Arab are not race and their is no such thing as race
A little disappointed that you didn't go on a bit more about the Punic speaking remnants living in the Roman Empire after the fall of Carthage. They persisted for quite a while, and one even became an emperor, noted for speaking Latin with an accent!
Wait what? Damn! Thanks for the nugget of knowledge! Where can I read about this :D
Septimius Severus. The Crisis of the 3rd Century is a often overlooked part of Roman history and it is a shame.
Sicily includes a fair amount of Punic heritage.
West Sicily.
Michael Coley A significant amount.
Nah
Hi, thank you for this video highlighting some aspect of our history. Am Tunisian and i take great pride in my Carthaginian heritage, but also in all other cultures that crossed our lands.Tunisia has been always a much coveted land for it's strategic location, hospitable climate and ample riches(in agriculture mainly). So this invited many colonists and conquerors throughout history, taking this into account let me humbly clarify something:1/ Tunisians identify themselves culturally as Arabs but anthropologically that's far from the truth. 2/ Arabs contribute a low percentage to the overall gene pool of the country as shown in recent studies with north African , Iberian and European(heritage of Romans,Vandals and others)genes taking the majority of percentage. I invite you to dive deeper into the North African history to see more of that diversity in us and our neighbors, thank you so much for this work i look forward to you future endeavors.
Rarely have I seen such accurate honest well researched info on the internet on this topic. Great job!!
It’s pronounced Fenecians not Fonecians
Like Phoenix = Fenix not Fonix
Ive definitely heard both pronunciation
Fuh -Necian .. not Fee Necian or Fo Necian
E B you sound like an idiot how can it be Greek, if the Phoenicians taught the Greeks how to write
E B Don’t bring your biblical bullshit in it either, Christianity is the white mans manipulative religion
1499 they killed 200 Muslims for declining to accept Christianity as their faith on the Iberian Peninsula, 7 years after the Granada War, Christianity only led to become a devilish cult and always had been!
Great work! I appreciate the chart showing the various languages deriving from Phoenician.
There were many Punic cities in North Africa and Spain which continued their lives as normal after the destruction of Carthage. Later, many Phoenicians moved to other places which were prospering, like leptis Magna, birthplace of Septimius Severus who was part Punic.
I always wanted to visit Lebanon. Rich of history and culture. Greetings to our Lebanese friends from Greece.
Ezekiel 27: 3-9 " Tyre, who dwells at the entrance of the sea, merchant of the peoples to many coast lands, thus say the Lord : O TYRE, you have said, i am perfect in beauty! "....
Lamis chkeir there you go. The people of Tyre! Also Byblos and others
Correct!!
Hello everyone. My Grandparents and Great Grandparents came to Canada in the early 1900’s. I was told they left Lebanon because of the conflict and difficulties being Christian in Lebanon at that time. I was told I am Phoenician, but never really knew what that meant. I always associated Phoenician with sailors and traders across the Mediterranean.
The Phoenicians are one of the most interesting people groups I have come across.
Another 90 days to change this I had my dna tested and it’s Phoenician. And our Lebanese Arabic comes from Phoenician.
Sid Boozak
@@Amooretliban Todays Labanese r not related to ancient Phoenicians
dan j you’re so dumb. I’m Lebanese and had my dna tested. Results: Phoenician. Our dialect carries a lot of Phoenician vocabulary. Literally so dumb.
Lebanese wait what dna test did you do im curious.
I like your videos a lot but would like to correct you on your pronunciation of Phoenician. The O is silent so its like saying Venetian but with the Ph a the beginning instead of the V.
You said my friend the Venetians and the Pgoenicians are one and the same. at least the ancient Venetians
He's American or Canadian, isn't he. Would you correct him on his pronunciation of the word "tomato?" Of course you wouldn't. Stop being smart ass.
Actually I would say that Americans and Canadians pronounce it like Venetians. I am not trying to be a smart ass. www.google.co.uk/search?q=phoenix+etymology&rlz=1C5CHFA_enGB795GB795&oq=phoe&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0j69i57j69i61l2j69i60.2699j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
How do you pronounce phoenix in the U.S. or Canada? Phoenix and Phoenicians are from the ancient greek and mean purple or reddish purple.
Thank you! It was really bugging me
Thank you for your video. I was captured instantly and was curious to learn more from you till the end of this video. I congratulate you for the way you explain, present valuable information. You keep the audience captivated till the last second. Please tell us more about other information on the phoenician subject: I am intrigued now because all ancient sciences used the symbols you showed us in your photos especially mathematics and the alchemists symbols. Big thank you. Please i would like to know more continue proudly!
Under-appreciated Etruscans.
But they seem to come from Assyrian who's generation in India is called ahir who hail from the Saga called Atri/Etru from which it became Etruscan
@@ghanvedsingh8946 fuck off pajeet. Go shit on your streets and watch T-Gay videos. Shoo Shoo.
Etruscans are believed to have come from Asia Minor, not the Levant.
Enrique Ceretti phoenicians berbers turkhis arabics is mix gypsie turkhis scitians yakuts in anatolia and maroc part of empires scityians saka kurgans turkhis gypsie siberyans the scityians invaded india and middle east in antics time and berbers phoenicians is part of scityians mix family gypsie turkhis mamluk warrior's with large family central asia tarim basin algerya tunis maroc and Mauritius from mauryans empires in north india and mamluke delhy sultanate and mamluke sultanat in egypt egyptians is berbers phoenicians origins from anntics time of pharans akhenatons gypsie turkhis berbers frigyans
G&C RECORDS Phoenicians have absolutely nothing to do with Scythians, they aren’t even from the same region, the Scythian were European nomads who fought against the Achaemenid empire and played the leading role of destructing the Assyrian Empire. They ran shit in the Pontic Steppe, not the Mediterranean coast, they were moreso the first dynasty of nomadic peoples in Eurasia, they fought battles up to Egypt but lost against the Medes, not North Africa
3:45 this castle is in Sidon not Tyre and it is not from the time of the Phoenicians , it was build during the Crusades in 1227
That's all Greek to me.
BAHAHAHA
Thank you for doing a wonderful video about my ancient people! Def don't get enough recognition for their contributions
Excellent content
Another excellent video. Thanks for your efforts
I'm an Algerian and I only consider the gulf countries + Yemen as real ethnically Arabs, others are just arabized Berbers, copts, Phoenicians, Assyrians, etc...
Znik in Algeria we actually use the Latin alphabet, but in Morocco and other countries that have Berber speakers such as Libya and mali however they use the Tifinagh alphabet, but there's no Berber with Arabic abjad!!
so ur saying because Arabia is the original home land of Arabs that no Arabs could exist outside of Arabia? what??. thats like saying there coudent be any indo european nations outside of caucasia or no turkic nations could exist out side of mongolia.
Im a 100% moroccan and was interessted in finding out my ancestry so i took a dna test and im actually 68% middle eastern arab , so i dont know where this notion of north africans being completely arabized berbers came from , with all due respect to my berber brothers , dont hate but its a fact , dont get offended again
sam som No, I'm not saying that, what I'm saying it's because The DNA of a north African is different from an Arabian or a Phoenician, also even in history it's known that most people from North Africa and the Levant are arabized, culturally and linguistically, and we people from MENA region we know that! We Know that being Arab is not an ethnicity but a cultural identity!
Znik yes algeria is a berber country and Berber language is an official language next to arabic and tifinagh is not a language it's just an alphabet!
@Masaman: Thank you for your entertaining and educational videos! I enjoy learning about anthropology and you explain things so well.
Your videos are really amazing. Great work
Great video thanks! You do have a slight issue with your audio, probably due to the position of the mic, but should be easily overcome by a "hi pass" filter, in other words cutting all frequencies under 100Hz. Cheers!
Lebanese talking here:
I believe that the region I came from changed hands so many imes that it is impossible for us to identify ourselves to any specific culture or people.
However, I proudly call myself a phoencian. Because i consider them as the closest to what modern lebanon is now and in addition they are a very high achieving civilization. In addition to that, I think that labeling ourselves as phoenicians is much more rewarding on a political, social, and therefore economical scale than labeling ourselves as arabs.
such defeatist mentality.
Absolutely fascinating as usual. When I watch these vids, I always wonder if people realize how these subjects highlight how equal we are in our differences, and how learning about other peoples and cultures enriches us brings us closer together: maybe I'm just sounding like a hippy lib'ral, but I hope more people feel the same.
Your pronunciation and attention to detail is great. Keep up the good work.
Succinct and thorough. 20 mins of information in 10 mins. Bravo!
I know many Lebanese, from Lebanon and the Diaspora. They speak Arab but are Phoenicians. Lebanese FIRST ! Love 'em. ~;)
Wow strange that you should post this today I was just at the city of Kition earlier it amazes me that the Phoenicians managed to last for 2000+ years being as peacefully as that were in such war torn times. Great video! And I would highly recommend the book Phoenician secrets by Sanford holst to anyone interested in the Phoenicians I'm glued to it right now thay we're truly fascinating people and most people have no idea of the impact thay have had on western civilisation.
Amazing! Another excellent video. Thank you.
Thanks for making that video, it is true that not a lot of people know much about what the Phoenicians contributed to the world.
Your pronunciation of ancient peoples and geographical areas Triggers me deeply.
Breathe -
SJW
You should do a video on the Copts of Egypt
The Copts are the original Christians in Egypt. They may have started the monk tradition and got it from visiting Buddhist monks. The Monk tradition was never part of the Jewish religion. Coptic was also a script used in Egypt prior to the arrival of the Arab Muslims.
Copts believe they are the orginal Egyptians. They believe that they are unmixed and blah blah. But you must know there are Copts of Greek features and Nubian/Egypto features.
They are no more the original Egyptians than I am. They formed after the Christian religion was introduced into Egypt.
@@8dholland that's 100% true the real Egyptians are not white
@@ahmedessa1364 In terms of "white" , I meant people of Western Europe who claim not to be African. The Levantine Arabs are olive and racist many times, indestinguishable from Lower Egyptians and Syrians. However, the Egyptians that we know are black were not really friends to Africa as you may see them, they were as the people of Uzbekistan who have only alligiances to themselves. They even used Nubians and Ethiopians with BS religions. It is speculated the Upper Egyptians were there way before the lower ones and actually caused racial clashes during the times of Scorpion King. But they were like the Nubians, non Negro black people with straight hair......most likley from Ancient N. Africa.
I really do feel that the Lebanese are the last remaining descendants of the Canaanites. I’ve always been fascinated with the canaanites !
the lebanese? are u high they are arabs and not at all related to the ancient natives of the region. Jews are the only canaanite speaking people left
@@gghost1224 wrong 90% of Lebanese ancestry is of ancient Canaanite dna
@@gghost1224 modern day Lebanese are arabised meaning they are arab by culture, language and ethnicity but genetically they are still Phoenician
Lebanese, Palestinian, some Syrians are all Canaanites
@@EasternOrthodox101 most of modern day Lebanese day is made up of ancient Canaanite dna
You've mentioned the city of Tyre at 2:55 but you've used a picture from Saida or Sidon. Thank you for the amazing work!
Was hoping someone else also caught it and mentioned something. Good eye!
It would be really nice if you could do a detailed video on the Austroasiatic language family. A lot of information about the Mon Khmer is not out there! Cheers x
Do u mean Vietnamese language etc.
So underrated langs for me!
Maltese language can decipher all of the Phoenician alphabet, for example alef means feeding the animals hence the letter A was originally depicted as a bull. Some scholars think it means an Ox since there is a word similar to it in Syriac. Also Delta comes from Telta which in Maltese means one-third and Rhobus derives from the word Robu which means one-fourth. I don't know why other fractions were not included like Tomna (1/8) etc.
Very interesting video. Thanks for this post!
Good work as always. Note: I’ve always heard Levant pronounced with stress on the second syllable, that is, Le-VAHNT. Peace!
A Phoenician descendant right here 🙌🙌🙌
if lebanon says they are phoenician, Malta will follow suit
If Lebanese say that lebanon is phoenecia, I will get extremely triggered as I am from the Syrian coast
@@PotatoPI i mean Lebanon and Syria and the North of Palestine used to be one region so technically Lebanon is the Phoenician empire since Tyre is in Lebanon
@@PotatoPI they where exiled big city like ogarit was destoyed nothing remain from it. many just go to the mountains and a huge arabic imigrated to this land. so you are arabic sitting in a phenicain land.
@@latechtochanta4869 really? Even if I tell you that my DNA test gave me 70% Lebanese and 30% Syrian? I have almost no Arab DNA.
@@PotatoPI yeah so. amir fakir el dine did conquer all the cost and had 10 % of the ottoman empire they where givin by the sultan himself son it is not that bizzare second during the ottoman times many lebanese get out of lebanon and lived in syira during the qaemqamiyat war during the famine during peace because we exganged a lot with syrians
Your videos are really well researched and informative, nice channel Masaman!
First class: highly informative and enjoyable ⭐️👏🏼
Actually I remember there was an article from National Geographic or something to that manner that found 100 skulls of ancient Phoenicians. The scientists took DNA tests to compare and found that Lebanese have many genetic similarities to the Phoenicians. So if anything, Lebanese would be Arabized Phoenicians.
What is the holographic of the phoenician then
Manuel Rivera yes DNA does determine who the descendants of ancients are.
DNA has proven that today’s Macedonians (Skopje to Bitola) are descendants of the ancient Macedonians and that the Greeks are not related to the ancient Macedonians.
The Greeks are fuming about the results and those discoveries.
So if anyone doesn’t agree with the swiss research about the DNA of the Macedonians and thinks the Macedonians are Greek.... which goes against all historical knowledge, maps and DNA...
Then the Lebanese can’t claim to be descendants of the Phoenicians... according to Greek logic.
MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS , YOU IDIOTS IN FYROM ARE ALBANIANS AND BULGARIANS. WHY ARE YOU BULGARIANS ASHAMED OF YOUR BULGARIAN HERITAGE AND IDENTITY , CUT THE BULLSHIT OUT , YOU ARE NOT MACEDONIANS. ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS GREEK , WAKE UP . SHAME ON YOU IDIOTS.
Persianized phonician then Romanized phoenician then geekified phoenician then arabized phoenician, the last one came from semitic branch
NICK RADEV IF MACEDONIANS ARE GREEK THEN WHY WERE THEY MENTIONED SEPARATELY IN HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS?????
YOU CANT SAY “MACEDONIANS AND GREEKS OR MACEDONIA AND GREECE IN THE SAME SENTENCE IF MACEDONIANS WERE GREEK. YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH??????
i'm Lebanese and i along with most of my friends and colleagues (many of whom are Muslims) identify as Phoenician and not Arab
Augustus Spiros
Islam is universal...
The arabs are just 13% of muslims population...
Awesome bro, keep your identity!
nice
i heard that phonecian and old hebrew were like twin languages
Being christian doesn’t make you white people.
Prince Of Dubai وراك عنصري انت وش قال الرجال؟
Phoenicians are interesting because in studies of very old maps and places, they appear everywhere. They were a great seafaring nation and it seems likely when they lost a ship and swam to shore they started a new colony, thus they may be found worldwide. They are listed of one of the many people before Columbus who had an impact on North America.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Phoenician_discovery_of_the_Americas
Phoenicians had doves present in their culture (stone tablets etc.). Latin name for dove = columbus.
And Australia
They may have had an influential impact on mesoamerican culture too maybe even 1,000 years before the conquistadors came. There is some scholars from the 19th century which make this claim, Haiti too.
Michigan Copper has been quantifiably analyzed and identified in ancient Mediterranean metals. There is a "theory" that people from the Med sailed to "America" and mined copper which was brought back from about 2500bc to 1200bc when it stopped. Timing is about right to align with the Mycenaean Late Bronze Age Collapse.
@@kevine5531 alot of Lebanese in Australia... phoenician Colony? 😂😂
Great videos, look forward to seeing more, thanks for posting.
I really liked pre Islamic Middle east videos, I hope u can do more of them
Most underrated people is Shardana, sea people of Sardinia. And the Nuragic constructors of Nuraghi. Sardinia's istory is so much fascinating and misterious
I almost agree with this entire video of yours for once. Excellent.
Good stuff. Thanks.
Thanks for the videos. My first exposure to Phoenician was in browsing through dictionaries, which listed the origins and evolution of each of the letters in the alphabet. For nearly all letters, the first entry was a Phoenician character.
But I do have a question: At one point you claim that "Phoenician DNA" can be found in certain peoples in certain places. How do we know what Phoenician DNA looks like? Have we really taken DNA samples from corpses found in ancient Phoenician cities? Anything else would be pure speculation IMHO.
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I definitely wouldn't characterize Hannibal as "zany"
Well, he did order his navy to launch pots full of snakes and scorpions at Roman ships in order to create chaos aboard. At the very least he was pretty inventive.
Lol he made elephants climb through a mountain passage.
Leroy Brown It symbolizes patience in war, else, “no worries”
Lets not forget, Hannibal went to conker Roma through the Alpes,whith elephant!!!!? He was the first to do it.a genius , not a zany!!!!!!!!
@@Irene-iu9sj It's genius because it's zany.
For correction the picture displayed at the beginning of your video was not picture of Tyre, its actually Saidun or Zidon (the old name ) its also one of the main Phoenician cities near Tyre.
I recommend a documentary called Quest of the Phoenicians for more accuracy.
Great vid!
My family is originally Egyptian. Although I do usually identify as Arab I'm always conflicted about whether I should be are not. I feel like not only is the ethnic make-up of Egyptians different, but so is the culture.
Real Egyptians are not arabs and should not be islamic, a religion which was forced upon Egyptian people
@@michelvds1128 Real Egyptians are easy to spot, they always walk sideways
@@michelvds1128 Yes as much as the amazigh of all north Africa. Arabs erased our beleifs, culture, langages and history. Many amazigh feel highly insulted when they are called arabs, specially in Morocco and Algeria.
Im myself Tunisian
And i remember attending a conference about genotypes and phenotypes and i was strongly surprised to know that there is a minority in Tunisia which still holds the same genes as the ancient phoenecian
The speaker even said that they could trace a man living in Sousse (a city on the coast of Tunisia) ancestry all the way back to ancient phoenecia.
Fascinating story thank you
In short: Rome happened.
MM 20 Rome and many Spaniards were butchered for hundreds of years before that.
@MM 20 Destroyed the Celtiberian culture too, except for the Basque.
@@asideclaro Euskara!
@@aureavita8653 Also known as Basque, Euskera, vasco... All the same
@Winston Smith Independence isn't a necessary thing imo, just that it survives and prosper under a united banner is good too
plus they got that mountain def+
I think about myself that I am Lebanese not Arabic, not Phoenician , just Lebanese. I mean lebanon was conquered by so many Empires that is hard to say what we are.
For info: some Lebanese think about them self ase canaanians .
Rayan Hachem greeting Lebanese brother I would like to ask you are you a Christian
Elias Frahat no Muslim shia but I do not practice and not like many Lebanese I don't what religion you are, and Sir you seem to be a good man
Anthony B. Kantara this explains why we love so much money
Rayan Hachem I'm also a Muslim shia brother
ehsan_iq
I'm Arab and Armenian mixed is this rare or common.
cause most of my features are Arab and the rest is Armenian
I am a Kabyle (Algerian Berber), and despite some details, this video is a very good job.
Our culture is well unknown by the outside world and thus it is hard to find objective information easily, but this guy manage to make up a good summary.
Interesting. I am American descended from the Alemannia or the Suevi tribe (upper Rhine/Alps german). When I ran my patrilineal line, the DNA is Levantine, and probably Carthaginian (aka Berber?) courtesy of Hannibal and Hastrubal. I wonder how much we have in common. 2000 years is a long time. I really want to visit Tunisia/Carthage, and ultimately, get to Tyre as well. The funny thing is I love the desert. The first time I was in the American deserts, I felt great, at ease. I'm curious how I would feel in Tunis.
@@Systems1 Then your paternal DNA likely goes back to the Natufians (E1B1...).
Barbers are spread all over north Africa. From the desert to the snowy mountains of Kabylie. In other words, Berbers are not desert people.
I am very happy for you that your test helped you go back that much a find all these connections.
Wishing you all the best my friend
@@A-D8656 Quite possibly Natufians. Thanks for that lead. I get the sense that my paternal DNA Haplogroup of E1b1b1c1a, and its parent haplogroups, lived in the levant about 20,000 years ago, and before that, probably migrated up the Nile from the Ethopia area. E1b1b1c1 is widely distributed amongst Jews, Arabs, Berbers, and Suevi (Alemani).
From my perspective, everything in North Africa through the Levant is relatively desert, lol. Compared to the Alps or the Rhineland or the area where I live now in Pennsylvania, USA. Regardless, I love the desert and the mountains and everything I've seen so far of North Africa appears very beautiful. I can't wait to visit your area someday in a pilgrimage to my roots.
All the best !
@@Systems1 that could be linked to the Phoenicians who carried the gene from the Levant all the way to north Africa (Carthage).
I hope your trip to NA will change you view about the desert :-)
@@A-D8656 Undoubtedly it will. The Sahara is THE desert. One of my goals is to do some long distance riding in the desert, on an Arabian Horse. Would love to spend a few weeks doing that.
Thanks, please turn up the volume
Well done
Fenicios one of my favorite ancient cultures. Loved their culture!
The image you showed for Tyre @3:50 mins is of Sidon and not Tyre.
Very good. Thanks
Thank you mate.
I am Algerian and I did the DNA test, I found that I am:
- 73% north African
26% Iberian
1% middle eastern
Basically descended of an ancient Ysraelite tribe maybe ? From family history and documents you can find out. Just follow upon spoken family history and old photos ,birth certificates.The most important two items to help will be obituaries and Heirloom family bibles as most ysraelites tribes record births and deaths in them. Its OUR heritage written in Genesis of the KJV Bible. If you believe in such things.
@@terrancespillers6970 why would he be from an Israelite tribe lol
We live in arabic countries and we both not related at all
That's interesting
@@thegladiator7351 being arabic is not a race... Is a language and culture that we arabic world share
Like the Germans.. They are feom different races but they united just because they speak the same language and they established the modern Germany
I am Mesopotamian and i have some English and Persian dna inside me but that's not meant i am not arab even if didn't seen a desert in all my life
Being together and related is more useful and interesting than call yourself different and isolated yourself
@@wesamal_iraqi1100 The general overlay of genetics in the area end up grouping people. A large percentage of Arabs/Jews/Phonecians share a common lineage, which separated from each other about 3200 years ago, about the time of the Bronze Age Collapse. They were all brothers then. Its kind of interesting the conflict between Jews and Arabs...brother against brother. Really a shame.
"And despite having some victories under the infamously zany general Hannibal of Carthage." I'm sorry, but this was hands down the most painful line I've ever heard in a youtube history video. That "infamously zany general" you're referring to was arguably the greatest general and strategist of all time. Hannibal the great's entire nearly 20 year campaign against the Romans was defined by constantly defying almost impossible odds, marching a hundred thousand soldiers(not to mention thousands of noncombatants)on foot over a thousand kilometers, through hostile gaulish territory, while being pursued by a roman army, over what was thought to be an impassible natural obstacle, into the heart of the roman republic, where despite being vastly outnumbered, out equipped, out supplied he brought the greatest power in the Mediterranean world to it's knees. Those victories you downplayed were Trebia, Trasimene, and Cannae. If you Google "greatest ambush battles of all time" the first three results are Trasimene and Cannae and Trebia in that order. In the course of those victories, which took place over less than two years, Hannibal's multiethnic multilingual army, which he pulled together from all over the western Mediterranean killed over 120.000 Romans, a staggering number by the standards of the time. His victory at Cannae in particular, in which he managed to surround 85.000 Romans with an army half that size, and slaughter 70.000 of them is still studied at military academies around the world over 2000 years later.
If you're going to make a video about the Pheonicians, have some respect for the greatest Pheonician who ever lived.
Yes,general Hannibal of Carthage,was a greatest Pheonician who ever lived.
@@gaetanoquintiliani170 Well he hardly had the resources to win in the end, that does not diminish his accomplishments.
If anything, the Romans were extremely lucky during the war.
@@gaetanoquintiliani170, It's quite clear that you don't know a whole lot of the war. 1st is the army of slaves that for some reason (despite all rebelling cities) stayed loyal to Rome and managed to defeat the Carthaginian reinforcements.
2nd, and probably the most important one, capturing the Macadonian messenger that was just one trip away from getting the Macadonians on board in the fight against Rome.
There are a few more that have slipped my mind at the moment. But yes, the Romans were extremely lucky.
War is more than just battles.
@@gaetanoquintiliani170, What are you talking about? Did you read my comment properly? Cause it doesn't look like you did.
You are very objective.
"then they made a colony so big it made colonies"
-Bill Wurtz 2017
as an Amazigh/berber I highly recomand doing a video about Berbers instead of mentioning them once in a while ...... please XD
PC GaMeS he did a video about nortg Africa amazig bro
This is my favourite video so far. Go Lebanon (Phoenicia)!
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#bosnia
3:48 this castle is in Saïda (Sidon) not Tyre 😂😂🏰
well done! I had a childhood friend that was from Morroco and his Mother was a [exiled] historian that mainly focused on Phoenicians.
I am running a search to see if Phoen. people made a trade settlement in italy.
It could have been nice to see on the video how Phoenician legacy made its way to America (you know, our continent) and, although unrelated to Phoenicians, it constitutes a living legacy: Phoenicians founded Carthage and when this colony grew in importance an power, they founded a new city in Spain as Qart Hadasht (Phoenician, meaning 'New Town') the same name as the original city of Carthage until the Romans took over Spain re naming it as Carthago Nova. This name would remain and would evolve into the current Cartagena and when the time for Spain came to sail the oceans (just like the Phoenicians) and connect the entire globe for the first time in history making almost every region aware of the existence of each other, they took the Phoenician legacy with them naming different cities they founded along the way as Cartagena both in America and Asia being Cartagena de Indias (which was meant to be understood as the American Carthago Nova) in Colombia, the most famous one outside Spain.
Dear Please read my response to spearcarrier! abpve here. Turns out I am some how Spanish (white hair blue eyed) and Scandinavian mix ++. I am tracing my rare dna and a rare archic blood line- I5a from my moms side picks up Italian & a bit of southern European and I was so surprised! Then all the pieces start to fall into place! What it comes down to is that I am North American Viking settlers of Canada and New England (U.S.A) since 1660's! OMG! I imagine many South American Central and Mexicans may carry the dna mixture. As people test and as generations do dna- it will become clearer! So important to do the oldest males while you can get dna for the future. 23&me has been helpful to me!
You have a mistake in the video. The Hebrew script did not develop from Aramaic (even in the diagram in 1:18 you can clearly see that), it is only later that the script evolved to be more similar to Aramaic script due to Aramaic language influence in the region.
sam som
Your infantiIe moronic response has nothing to do with my comment. What a laughable loser who is so wrapped up in supporting Arab imperiaIism in Judea.
Very interesting.
You forgot to mention that we get the word phonetic from the phoenicians. Their alphabet is believed to be the first use of symbols to represent actual sounds; instead of pictographs like hieroglyphs or Chinese characters, which represent ideas, and have no set pronunciation between languages. For example: China and Japan both use the same character system; but, apply their own spoken languages to the symbols. Useful for a multi-language empire; but, cumbersome and much more reliant on memorization than a phonetic system.
3:51 bruh u said it’s called “Tyre” the city but this photo is in Sidon 🙃
Would've been nice to show the link between the Phoenician language and Hebrew and it's influence on today's language and names.
Also lots of cities on the coast of Spain acknowledge their Phoenician heritage (to attract tourists). As the greatest seafaring nation at their time, the Phoenicians colonized the coasts along their shown trade routes.
well this is agreed upon by many historians, and there is Tartessos, ana n'oient colony of Spain supposedly of Greek origin
I can understand why some people would be reluctant to talk about Hebrew in this context. Anyone touching on anything reeking of Jewishness is bound to step on someone's toes and even if this does not occur, the reference is certain to garner more than a fair share of antisemitism.
Good job. What is missing is the recent evidence obtained from ancient DNA. It is possible to categorically answer the question of origins using ancient DNA and comparing it with modern populations.
I love your videos. Great topics, good research. I tried not to cringe every time you said FOE-NICIANS.
I cringed
I've always been fascinated by the Phonecians, the Greeks, the Romans, and the Carthaginians. (the etruscans & the basques also). from all the stuff i've researched seems to me like we're ALL mixed to some degree. no matter where you're from. that's the story of humanity.
Now we know where ‘Hooked on Phonics’ got its name.
Good confidence boost for this maronite Australian right here. Cheers
3:44 the pic is from Sidon not Tyre, this is the sea fortress as it's called locally
Could you make a video about the indo-european migrations to Europe, Persia and India?
Thats a Video I'd like to see.
Great video as always Masaman! Would you consider doing a video on “fair” features. Northern Europeans are commonly regarded as having blue/green/hazel eyes and blonde/red/brown hair, but I’ve noticed that quite a few Southern Slavs, Central Asians and Caucasians have these features as well. Would love to see a video about it !
Blue eyes was a mutation from the Baltic area. Blonds likely also. That is for Europeans. Some Mongolian and Hmong children are born with blond hair. Some people south of Sri Lanka also have blond hair and blue eyes. I think they are in the Andaman islands. Papuans and Natives of Australia can also have blond hair. None of these are directly related to Europeans.
@@harrymcnicholas9468 same with levantines, 3 of my aunts have blue eyes and blond hair, and one of them even has a platinum color, my dad has green eyes, one of my cousins has red hair and my uncle has a red beard as well but they aren’t Europeans so I’m really interested in the history of these mutations and how they spread 🤷🏻
great vid! just a parenthesis regarding tunisia.. there are until today, a lot a tunisians are named jugurtha, hanibal… so they do take pride into their carthaginian origins to some extent
I visited byblos in near Beirut it was amazing! So much history there.👍🏽
My parent are from Lebanon (Beirut) and I have to say that there are more history in byblos than Beirut (and we have more history than Americans oblivious
@@henryghanem7265 It was beautiful honestly more people should go there💖