Bro how mad are you LOL 😂😂😂 and the crazy part is you are right. In like 10-20 years, that “home computer owner” is going to be as rare as it was in 1981 as far as desktops are concerned.
It's interesting hearing how people in 1981 think that computers are such a big part of their daily lives. They have no idea what a society truly surrounded by computers looks like.
you could say the same for current day people being looked upon 30 years from now. but computers really did revolutionize the ways things were done back then. things got smarter, faster, more precise.
you think the computer is a battle... good luck educating the masses on blockchain and decentralized systems ..looking back..its almost the same conversation that we are now having about bitcoin and the blockchain....im already in ;)
I remember watching these. The public really didn't understand how important computers were so the media always pounded in the idea of how important and ubiquitous computers were
No, only one of them was correct. The number of people who actually use computers for creative endeavors is minuscule. Computers have turned into 4 figure wank machines and the internet is now a glorified shopping mall.
@@keithd2284 that's kinda narrow minded don't you think? the very fact that you're commenting this on TH-cam which is one of the biggest internet platforms contradicts your statement. Computers have evolutionized pretty much every creative practice there is, as well as made entirely new ones possible. Sure, most of the internet is porn and almost everything else in the world has also been renewed or replaced but that doesn't change the fact that he said something true, even if there is much more to it than that aspect.
@@pongofant2030 No, I wouldn't have said it if I thought it was narrowminded. My critique isn't of the technology itself, but rather the way it is used. TH-cam itself is fundamentally an advertising platform. And it's far and away the best of the major social media platforms. You know... People had pen pals in the 70s. Not most of them, but a lot of them. And they wrote each other hand written letters... Now everybody has a million "pen pals" and they post silly cat pics and pop culture memes AT each other. People doodled... Now hand drawn animation is all but extinct. Don't even get me started about what has happened to the quality of music in the last 30 years. Ultimately, I don't think he said anything true. Sure, people draw and write and record music and make movies on computers, but people did all of those things prior to computers as well. Are more people engaging in more creative activity as a result of ubiquitous computing resources? I don't know, but I honestly don't think so. The drive to create seems to be innate to the human condition and it's been there since at least the time of the Spinx.
@@keithd2284 Sure people were recording music and making movies before computers but what technology has done is made it so ANYONE can make music or movies and put it on a platform where you can be seen and discovered. Before computers and the internet there was a huge barrier of entry for these things but now anybody can with a minimal of expense. The same thing can be said of almost any creative endeavor (building and distributing video games is also a good example). Basically tech is leveling the playing field.
@@keithd2284 You can take me for example. Currently my primary source of income is selling prints of my photography. Back in the day I would've had to either set up a stand on a corner or go through a gallery to sell my work. Now I can post my work to print-on-demand sites (that the whole world can access, or people can find listings via Google) then people can find my stuff and decide if they want to buy it. Also computers and digital tech have made it much easier to edit and store photos, no spending a fortune on film or using a darkroom. No storing negatives.
Jobs always knew he is right, that's what drove him towards making this company what it is today, he doesn't need to see 2019 he already knew back then that this is gonna happen and he wanted to be a catalyst
When the writer guy started talking I got ready to hear some things that will have aged very badly, yet his concerns were just as spot on as Jobs' excitement.
@referral madness You're missing the point; he has the wit & intelligence to use that metaphor to great effect in application to the conversation he was having.
Nope. I realized similiar methaphor. Not bike but weapon. How animal use claw, no matter how powerful the claw it fall below human when using sharp stone attach on the stick. When im 4 years old in 1993
haha.. yes he sounds like he's definitely from the future. He has the speed of thought and speech... the confidence, almost of hindsight!!.. it's quite remarkable.
they had tabloid news back then, and decent news programs like this still exist today they just arent as pubkicised or popular because despite your hatred for tabloit news, you still fall victim to its epic ability at grabbing attention like a 14yo cutter. I dont see why people romanticise the past, some aspects maybe, but its always things that havent really changed if you just take the time to look around, or even further research and talk to people who lived back then.
Except now it's not as easy to "throw it out the window" 6:35 . Sure, an iPhone is under 8oz, but what about the stove, the thermostat, the speaker, or all the neighbours' cameras... etc. everything is being embedded with this technology and a few years all these things will practically be conscious when infused with AI.
Honestly, respect to the guy with the counterpoint on computers and privacy, and how the government used electronic punchcards to locate Japanese and detain them in the 40s. Overall Jobs wins, computers obviously were worth making and have revolutionized our World, but good counterpoint by that guy. And his counterpoint is more relevant today than ever before.
I love watching old clips from back when the news hosted debates between people and everyone spoke well, acted politely, and allowed each other to say their piece. And the moderators were tough but as fair as could be. Why can't we still have this?
Because brainwashing techniques are stronger, it started in the 30s, our parents were baby boomers and we are baby boomers 2nd generation, dont be in denial, we are too spoiled and brainwashed
... don't be fooled... ... that is because there was only one Ted Koppel who was the best at that game... ... you can say, gone are the days when there were real knowledgeable guys who knew how to interview guests .without bias or agenda.
They got bought, are now owned by only 5 companies and their sole purpose is to blast propaganda and disinfo at the profit of a tiny tiny tiny group of people.
Im a PC guy, but I admire how Steve Jobs made sure Apples encryption of data is top grade. They dont let the government just do what they want with peoples data.
Steve Jobs is only 26 in the video, but his eloquence is incredible and you can feel his intelligence! The other surprising thing is to see how much they are already concerned with the privacy issues in 1981! They didn't even have the internet as we know it at the time!
Internet was already around. They also had private national network such as telenet and tymnet. Linked all kinds of computers together. In fact, you could link your home computer just like how you link it to the Internet today, just that was it was far more expensive to do.
The Govt invading our privacy was a concept that has been around since the 1940s. George Orwell's visionary novel, 1984 predicted mass surveillance and human self-censorship as a result, back in 1949. That book essentially prophesied what we all found out through Edward Snowden 64 years in advance!! Let that sink in.
GUIRADE Well I guess you had the feeling each contemporary had of Leonardo da Vinci, sir Newton or Henry Ford....every real genius is never fully understood in his early life and positions...or he/she would not be a genius being that genial thought is simply the ability to forsee and elaborate something that will happen in the future. I always use the example of Vincent VanGogh: his contemporaries not only didn't recognize his genius but openly told him he should do something other than painting at which he "was really awful", actually he famously sold only one painting only to his brother who bought it out of pity for his miserable economic conditions. Now the very discendants of his contemporaries queue up to see his marvelous work in the VanGogh National Museum in Amstrdam. :-)
Agreed - Strange example I know, but reminds me of the analogy my great grandmother used when us school girls hesitantly admitted we didn't like the boys from our school - only the boys from the school across town. Her response "No man is a prophet in his own land." It difficult to recognize greatness from people within our own social circles.
Let's just watch kids use them. Yeah dude, kids are for the most part innocent. Watch a politician/government use them and you will get the answer that jobs didn't want to admit.
i don't understand. Facebook doesn't have any information that you yourself haven't shared with them under warning. If you are afraid for your privacy, don't post shit online about yourself.
@@marko6489 Found the Facebook employee. Become an hero. Facebook is installed by default on many mobile phones and is in many cases unable to be removed by normal means, short of something like jailbreaking the phone.
At first, I thought he was anti-computer too but I think instead of being that he simply wanted people to acknowledge the potential dangers of heading into a computer world, and he was right. Today we got hackers, scammers, the NSA, and that famous computer just two years after this interview that wanted to play the game of thermal nuclear war lol
As much as I'm a proponent of Steve Jobs I don't think giving him umerited adulation is necessary. He wasn't a mathematician . He was just a mere salesman and an artist that understood the intricacies of simplicity. Pardon my double entandre.
@Yahweh5995 , I am a mathematician and PhD. from the top university in America. After graduation, I worked on financial institutions focusing on the evaluation of the companies. Leadership is one of the most important factors in consideration. There were many PCs at time, without Steve Jobs' vision and leadership, Apple 1 was a toy for hobbyists. Apple 2 would disappear in a few years. Apple, as a company, would disappear and fail company in history in 1997, rather than being the most valuable company today. This world does not lack super smart people who understand the most advanced topics in mathematics or engineering.
@@rogerfournier3284 Steve is a visionary, he clearly thinks in abstractions but not in the way a mathematician does, he abstracts reality to get to the core fundamentals in order to address business needs in the form of tech products.
Jobs' deflection here is brilliant. The man who was speaking about the possible issues with computers is obviously correct in regards to the potential dangers but Steve's way of just not focusing on the negative and pushing his vision is quite impressive.
Yeah, but you've gotta keep in mind that personal computers were not common (1 in 1,000 household Jobs says in this interview), so he really doesn't want to admit to a wide (and largely computer-illiterate) audience the potential dangers.
He didn’t side step completely. He was speaking to an extremely digital illiterate crowd. His point was essentially a nice way of saying “if you know how to use a computer, you understand how it’s not going to control you.”
@@Josh-hz8vz They said computers but what they really meant was who controls your data/information controls you. They were pretty litterate on that one.
@@discretelycontinuous2059 I really wonder what Jobs would say now; I'm mean, he's been gone, what, less than a decade? But I would love to see if he had any thoughts on whether he would push the things that he did, based upon where we are now. I.e., do you have any regrets about leading the digital revolution that ultimately integrated man and machine and enabled near-dystopian control (e.g., China)?
Check out a political debate or a celebrity tv show from the same era. People weren't as debased and intellectually deficient back then. Maybe it really was the led in the water supply? Trans-fats? Whatever it was it destroyed us.
@@deadheads1352 You just had to be in a different league to get on TV back then. People haven't gotten dumber, it's just easier for the dumb ones to make noise.
Try high school debates. Back in the 80s we had 16-17 year old kids having a political debate just like the Presidential debate and the students would vote for the high school President. Those kids spoke just as intelligently as Steve Jobs in this video.
@@deadheads1352 To be fair, Jobs was highly intelligent, intellectually and creatively he was a genius. Not a great example for the baseline of discourse 40 years ago.
I'm amazed by how visionary he was nearly 40 years ago. He's talking but this technology being a trailblazer for the 21st century, and how right he was. Computer literacy has indeed approached 1:1. RIP Mr Jobs, wherever you are.
David Burnham was precisely right in voicing concern about the spread or personal computers. He was in fact quite prescient. Privacy issues abound today with the proliferation of computers in their various forms. Jobs seems to identify prevalent with literacy. That's a flawed assumption. Just because computers are everywhere, doesn't mean people understand them better. It's this ignorance that individuals and organisations and governments have preyed on. Burnham was ahead of his time.
"Jobs seems to identify prevalent with literacy. That's a flawed assumption. Just because computers are everywhere, doesn't mean people understand them better." Catch me on this if I'm wrong... But isn't that exactly what is happening? Depending on how we define "literacy"-in the context of computers, as Jobs mentioned-whether it means the understanding of the inner workings-, how to program them or how to operate them; in any of the definitions that has hold true. - There are more developers now than ever, and it is growing rapidly. Jobs for programming are increasingly growing. - It's fair to say that most people know how to use a computer, being it a phone, tablet or desktop. - More and more hardware is coming out-mostly for enthusiasts-which allows you to program and build your own computers for little to no money. - Computers-and in some places, programming-is taught in school and used as learning and work tool. I think it's fair to assume, that a big part of the reason that this is possible is due to the wide distribution and availability of technology and computers in most-if not all-corners of the world.
You do realize people die everyday right? If computers become more apparent and taught at young ages then those like our grandparents and even our parents now who don't necessarily understand the functions of most technology, will eventually pass and their ignorance will fade with that generation. And from that will come a society that is fully aware of the fun and dangers of online usage and computers in general. The change towards that future has already begone and by the time 2030 comes around, i doubt anyone in America (and maybe the world too) will have any problems using a computer.
What a great and prescient program! (It reminds me how much I miss Ted Koppel's "Nightline" for its high-quality reporting and interviews.) Both Steve Jobs and David Burnham see so clearly parts of the future that will be reshaped by the computer revolution, but Jobs sees the good (democratizing access to computers, computers amplifying human intelligence for positive purposes) and Burnham sees the bad (government surveillance programs).
@@marknowlin8356 Don't judge just because you haven't attempted a conversation with a bloke on the street since the 90s. People are generally just as respectful as those from 40 years ago. The internet is a great way to express our opinion without diluting it for the sake of others.
I miss Steven Jobs I met him a long time ago about two years before this interview at consumer electronics show in Las Vegas. He was charismatic, a genius and you could smell him from 5 feet away.
@@markflierl1624 Body Odor. Don't know what you know about Steve in his younger years, but he considered bathing optional and rarely did it. There is the story when he worked at Atari that he was brilliant but people did not want to be around him. I still admired him and miss his genius. I made a living off his products and appreciate them and him.
Trust me the average home computer was more in 1981 then in 2001. The prices came way down. My dad couldn't afford one, but we did get the Texas Instruments Computer when it went out of production in late '83 and they sold them off at a cheap price. We had to wait in line before the store opened, then ran in. LOL. I learned how to type of "Touch Typing Tutor." program cartridge.
an apple IIe set up with cpu, monitor, and disk drives back in the early 80's was about 2000-3000 dollars. in current money that would be about 6000-9000 dollars so yeah they were expensive. one of my classmates's parents bought one back then and they didn't let anyone eat or drink near the thing. it was a huge investment for people.
Jobs was so sharp n fluid! Tremendous salesman, took a negative sentiment (invading privacy) and turned it into a selling point (personal computers to be computer literate).
"You can throw it out the window if the relationship isn't going so well..." Actually did this with a pentium machine as a teenager. End of life the thing gave me endless grief, locked up one day and I was done. Case went right out the second story window onto the driveway and just collapsed in a sea of silicon and metal. The catharsis is hard to put into words.
@OG HerefanoPatriot Act came out in 2001, long before Obama. The vast extent of it came out in 2006, still 2 years before Obama. Might want to check your facts.
He doesn't have a Mid-Atlantic accent. That was a Hollywood thing. He's speaking standard American English. It just sounds strange because so many people butcher it today.
It's a mid atlantic accent spoken with the news reporter accent but it is strongly mid atlantic. You can tell by the way his words slur at the end of his pronouncing them. News reporter words are clipped
@@CaesarCassius Oh how naive y;ou are. He's the reason why your dumbass can use a computer. He personalized it to make the computer easy enough for the average dummy like you.
@@bioches Considering most of his ideas were stolen from Xerox, hardly. Not only that, IBM created the first PC 3 years before Macintosh came onto the market. Every Windows-based computer, of which is 90% of the current market, is based on the IBM. The only thing modern PCs adopted that Apple popularized is the mouse, which was developed by Xerox.
I don't buy Apple for many different reasons that I won't bother explaining, but denying Jobs intelligence is plain stupid. He was a genius, but you can't expect an idiot to understand a genius.
Refreshing to see a news report from back when the news simply reported the news rather than fabricate it with conspicuous bias. Interestingly, there was little concern of personal computers invading privacy at the time....in 1981. That, of course, was because the worldwide web was not connected to your personal home computer in 1981. That wouldn't be available until the early 1990's. Today, there is legitimate reason for privacy concerns in regard to personal computing.
Richard Nixon would have creamed himself if he had the kind of access to personal information that modern governments and corporations have with the ubiquity of social media.
10:18 Spot-on, Mr. Jobs. Computer literacy is massively important in combating centralized authoritarianism. However, speaking now as someone 40 years in the future of this video; I’d like to also add that meta-cognition, self-confidence, and critical-thinking are just as important; so that we don’t slip into herd mentality echo chambers and propaganda bombardment - the likes of which can be seen in abundance on social media platforms like Twitter and right here on TH-cam.
That was fantastic! now Nightline is a newsmagazine with each segment being about 3 ditzy minutes. This is one of the most prophetic things that I have seen on TH-cam. I didn't care at ALL about computers back then while my friend Chuck bought a $10,000 Apple Lisa. Now they are a MAIN hobby of mine. Wait until A.I. becomes ubiquitous! Humankind is in for one bumpy ride ahead.
This is my new favorite interview of the great modern-day industry titan, like Rockefeller & Ford. This video is proof that Steve Jobs was also a true visionary from the very beginning.
The amazing thing about this is how relevant the discussion still is now. Nothing has really changed, the technology has just gotten smaller, faster and cheaper. And where we are today, everybody could see coming then. If anything, it's taken longer than some thought. The world we live in today really started around 1980, when PCs and cell phones started reaching the consumer market. Add the World Wide Web ten years later, and you have everything we have now. Just big, slow and expensive. As I type this on my MacBook Pro and send it over Gigabit broadband, I'm still doing the same thing people could do then.
"I knew Steve Jobs for five years before Apple. He didn't know anything about insides of a computer, he wasn't an engineer but he knew how to look at products. Steve wanted to live a zero money life, he was more of a true hippie," said Wozniak. “Steve Jobs played no role at all in any of my designs of the Apple I and Apple II computer and printer interfaces and serial interfaces and floppy disks and stuff that I made to enhance the computers. He did not know technology. He’d never designed anything as a hardware engineer, and he didn’t know software. He wanted to be important, and the important people are always the business people. So that’s what he wanted to do.”
"Currently the computer to household ratio is about 1 in 1000, in the next 5-7 years it'll be 1 in 10, ultimately it'll be 1 in 1" Not a bad guess, Steve, but now there are more computers per household than persons, thanks in part to you!
you could argue that the increase was due more to cheap pc's and microsoft during the 90's than the efforts of apple. apple sold more to schools (k-12 and some colleges) but cheap pricing is what drove sales and apple was never about cheap pricing. cell phones are similar with cheap pricing or free phone with contracts in the early 2000's.
yeah, I didn't get one until the 90's for that reason. The 80's our high school didn't get one until they had a fund raiser for it. They were like $1,000+ then, so we're talking like $2,000+ in today's dollars (not many are going to spend that much on one device).
David Burnham is way ahead of everyone, talked about privacy when PC was in its infancy. Wonder nowadays, who can have these tremendous foresight to talk about all this technology advancement.
Alpha Dragon Capital it wasnt *that* much foresight, they later said that the IRS was tracking welfare cheats and that the civil libterties union had previously said that was too far, it was probably just an observation.
The thing is, in the 80's without a cell network, your phone wouldn't be very smart or powerful at all. At best it would be very nice looking calculator.
Without computers it would be almost impossible for us to watch Steve Jobs explaining this to us even after he is gone... computers let us inspire those in the future.
One day we will be watching this video through a neural network implanted into our brain and be like “i can’t believe computers used to be outside of our bodies.”
Rule 34 was first recorded as a rule in 2006. That isn't that current for a date of origin. 1981 - 2006: 25 years 2006 - 2021: 15 years. So it's three fifths of the way to being as old, it isn't something I'd call "now" - though the rule may still be highly applicable. There are many advancements of course, this simplified view is unremarkable and unrepresentative.
This amazes me and how much the technology grows, changes and affects us. There's negatives but there's so much positive in all of this we should be grateful for. People got too spoiled judging small differences in devices nowadays and it's really impressive what we can use and do. Don't forget it.
WOW. This puts in perspective: How much technology has developed over the years. How unpredictable future world of tech was just 40 years ago (and this can apply to our current views on next decades). How some individuals with vision can achieve great things that seem impossible (Steve Jobs). It makes me feel very grateful for everything we have today. It makes me feel hopeful for everything we may achieve as civilization in future. It makes me feel like I know nothing about how the future will look, through analyzing people and the current world. We know nothing, but can achieve great things. Human kind has a huge potential, but lot of work needs to go towards progress and making our world a better place.
I am mesmerized at the how big a vision certain people like Steve Jobs have. How they can far see the potential in things. Like they saw in Computers. It's crazy how their mind worked and how their thoughts projected
80 years actually. In 1948 they started on electronic digital computers. Thousands of years when you take into account the mechanical ones like soroban. We haven't come anywhere, that's a simple minded buffoon statement. We simply were, humans have pushed at stuff like this forever.
My goodness, is this the quality of interviews they had on TV in the 80s? Take me back. I'd watch such intelligent conversations all day!
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Seriously. I just watched that entire 12-minute video start-to-finish. I can’t tell you the last time that happened.
@@wonderstew it was a really good interview...
Thats exactly what i think, every time i watch TV interviews from decades ago.
Everything now is fluff and commercials
And almost 40 years later, I am watching this, on a computer.
I’m seeing this on my smartphone computer
I could be watching this on my smartwatch
pfff, computers? am seeing this on the newspaper right now
Me to.
... and in a Mac
I love how they found and interviewed a "home computer owner" 😄
Nowadays, you can just bump into someone and there's a 98% chance that they have a computer.
Home desktops are on their way to being just as rare as they were then.
Bro how mad are you LOL 😂😂😂 and the crazy part is you are right. In like 10-20 years, that “home computer owner” is going to be as rare as it was in 1981 as far as desktops are concerned.
@@serialdrunkdriver Thats incredible
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It's interesting hearing how people in 1981 think that computers are such a big part of their daily lives. They have no idea what a society truly surrounded by computers looks like.
you could say the same for current day people being looked upon 30 years from now. but computers really did revolutionize the ways things were done back then. things got smarter, faster, more precise.
you think the computer is a battle... good luck educating the masses on blockchain and decentralized systems ..looking back..its almost the same conversation that we are now having about bitcoin and the blockchain....im already in ;)
DarthScorpio11 For the time it was a really big deal.
I remember watching these. The public really didn't understand how important computers were so the media always pounded in the idea of how important and ubiquitous computers were
Joe Quinthorp can you at least put a capital 't' after the period? Smh.
I miss civilized discussions...
Watch some good podcasts, eg. Joe rogan, Lex Fridman etc.
You can blame computers for those not being around anymore.
@@banquo60615 OK BOOMER
@@chaskramer2932 Nope. Gen-X, but old enough to know what real human interaction was like.
Thank the liberals
that dude was smart. He was asking those questions back then. And look where we are now. They were both right.
No, only one of them was correct. The number of people who actually use computers for creative endeavors is minuscule. Computers have turned into 4 figure wank machines and the internet is now a glorified shopping mall.
@@keithd2284 that's kinda narrow minded don't you think? the very fact that you're commenting this on TH-cam which is one of the biggest internet platforms contradicts your statement. Computers have evolutionized pretty much every creative practice there is, as well as made entirely new ones possible. Sure, most of the internet is porn and almost everything else in the world has also been renewed or replaced but that doesn't change the fact that he said something true, even if there is much more to it than that aspect.
@@pongofant2030 No, I wouldn't have said it if I thought it was narrowminded. My critique isn't of the technology itself, but rather the way it is used.
TH-cam itself is fundamentally an advertising platform. And it's far and away the best of the major social media platforms.
You know... People had pen pals in the 70s. Not most of them, but a lot of them. And they wrote each other hand written letters... Now everybody has a million "pen pals" and they post silly cat pics and pop culture memes AT each other. People doodled... Now hand drawn animation is all but extinct. Don't even get me started about what has happened to the quality of music in the last 30 years.
Ultimately, I don't think he said anything true. Sure, people draw and write and record music and make movies on computers, but people did all of those things prior to computers as well. Are more people engaging in more creative activity as a result of ubiquitous computing resources? I don't know, but I honestly don't think so. The drive to create seems to be innate to the human condition and it's been there since at least the time of the Spinx.
@@keithd2284 Sure people were recording music and making movies before computers but what technology has done is made it so ANYONE can make music or movies and put it on a platform where you can be seen and discovered. Before computers and the internet there was a huge barrier of entry for these things but now anybody can with a minimal of expense. The same thing can be said of almost any creative endeavor (building and distributing video games is also a good example). Basically tech is leveling the playing field.
@@keithd2284 You can take me for example. Currently my primary source of income is selling prints of my photography. Back in the day I would've had to either set up a stand on a corner or go through a gallery to sell my work. Now I can post my work to print-on-demand sites (that the whole world can access, or people can find listings via Google) then people can find my stuff and decide if they want to buy it. Also computers and digital tech have made it much easier to edit and store photos, no spending a fortune on film or using a darkroom. No storing negatives.
36 yrs later, the DC metro trains look the same.
#UnionMonopolies #slowingEVERYTHINGdown
Not the new 7000 series. They finally got rid of the 1000 series that were the first cars when the system opened.
Except now they're not controlled by computers anymore.
What would they be controlled with? Faith?
That's because it's the same train.
2019 and thinking "If Jobs and Burnham only knew they were both right"
How true!
Jobs always knew he is right, that's what drove him towards making this company what it is today, he doesn't need to see 2019 he already knew back then that this is gonna happen and he wanted to be a catalyst
But they had to both be right to know that - does not compute ;+}
Yeah, I was thinking exactly the same thing. It's quite amazing how accurate their predictions were.
Burnham is still around today, would be cool to see a retrospective on this.
If they only really knew
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@@fucker9002 important facts
@@FirestormDDash fo real respect
2:58 They knew with that Apple ][
oh..."They" knew. If only "WE" knew...
When the writer guy started talking I got ready to hear some things that will have aged very badly, yet his concerns were just as spot on as Jobs' excitement.
That bike metaphor was genius. Hard to believe he was only 26 at this time.
He got it from a "Scientific American" article that was about locomotion efficiency in animals. Applying it to computers was his idea...
Broadly he’s referencing McLuhan, who described technology as an “extension” of the human body.
@referral madness You're missing the point; he has the wit & intelligence to use that metaphor to great effect in application to the conversation he was having.
Steve Jobs 26 year old genius: The computer is a bicycle.
Me 25 eating toaster strudel: one more year until I become a genius!
Nope. I realized similiar methaphor. Not bike but weapon. How animal use claw, no matter how powerful the claw it fall below human when using sharp stone attach on the stick. When im 4 years old in 1993
Wow. How accurately has this interview predicted life 40 years later.
Steve sounds like a guy from the future talking to a guy from the 80’s about technology.
But even that guy from the 80s made good points, it was a fair and balanced discussion on both ends.
@@ClayMationNation Present time actually shows, as Edward Snowden demonstrated, that "the guys from the 80s" was right
@@vladk8637 That is one scenario but look at all the good the internet has done also. It has made EVERYTHING available at our fingertips and cheaper!
@@ClayMationNation So it helped us destroy the planet as well
haha.. yes he sounds like he's definitely from the future. He has the speed of thought and speech... the confidence, almost of hindsight!!.. it's quite remarkable.
I wish the news was like this today. Now they're practically tabloids
they had tabloid news back then, and decent news programs like this still exist today they just arent as pubkicised or popular because despite your hatred for tabloit news, you still fall victim to its epic ability at grabbing attention like a 14yo cutter. I dont see why people romanticise the past, some aspects maybe, but its always things that havent really changed if you just take the time to look around, or even further research and talk to people who lived back then.
Blame RUPERT MURDOCH.
Did you listen to the token opposition they brought in to "represent the other side." He said nothing.
tabloid news are better
@@leifleoden5464 actually he said a lot, and all of it happened.
"Computers are also used to track runaway fathers behind on welfare." I lol'd
Considering this interview is from almost 40 years ago, it's way ahead of its time.
Except now it's not as easy to "throw it out the window" 6:35 . Sure, an iPhone is under 8oz, but what about the stove, the thermostat, the speaker, or all the neighbours' cameras... etc. everything is being embedded with this technology and a few years all these things will practically be conscious when infused with AI.
'You can throw it out the window if the relationship isn't going so well.'
K there goes the I-phone X
And the iMac Pro and 2017 Touchbar Macbook Pro.
Literally first comment I read after seeing it lol
..has no regard for pedestrians
Great mastery of handling objections shown here by Steve Jobs
Honestly, respect to the guy with the counterpoint on computers and privacy, and how the government used electronic punchcards to locate Japanese and detain them in the 40s. Overall Jobs wins, computers obviously were worth making and have revolutionized our World, but good counterpoint by that guy. And his counterpoint is more relevant today than ever before.
I love watching old clips from back when the news hosted debates between people and everyone spoke well, acted politely, and allowed each other to say their piece. And the moderators were tough but as fair as could be. Why can't we still have this?
it is still around on the internet and in podcasts and other long form respectable formats.
Because brainwashing techniques are stronger, it started in the 30s, our parents were baby boomers and we are baby boomers 2nd generation, dont be in denial, we are too spoiled and brainwashed
WillyTheComposer no stupid background noise going on either nice just listen to people telling actual proper news
... don't be fooled...
... that is because there was only one Ted Koppel who was the best at that game...
... you can say, gone are the days when there were real knowledgeable guys who knew how to interview guests .without bias or agenda.
When Ben Shapiro interviewed Andrew Yang it was actually pretty good.
What happened to journalism over the last 40 years? Journalism is trash now.
20 years from now, people will be appreciating today's journalism :)
so the fact that the host is an idiot passed you by then
Steve jobs is trash now
Computers and the internet happened.
They got bought, are now owned by only 5 companies and their sole purpose is to blast propaganda and disinfo at the profit of a tiny tiny tiny group of people.
These guys are both right, steve focused on the positive, other guy foresaw the privacy issues we have today. Both really good visionaries.
Im a PC guy, but I admire how Steve Jobs made sure Apples encryption of data is top grade. They dont let the government just do what they want with peoples data.
Steve Jobs is only 26 in the video, but his eloquence is incredible and you can feel his intelligence!
The other surprising thing is to see how much they are already concerned with the privacy issues in 1981!
They didn't even have the internet as we know it at the time!
@Chenko Alex
Yep... Edward Snowden!!!!
Internet was already around. They also had private national network such as telenet and tymnet. Linked all kinds of computers together. In fact, you could link your home computer just like how you link it to the Internet today, just that was it was far more expensive to do.
They had what was called the ARPANET. And you could call other computers if they had a modem and so did you. Haven't you seen Wargames?
Steve Jobs is a reptilian.
The Govt invading our privacy was a concept that has been around since the 1940s. George Orwell's visionary novel, 1984 predicted mass surveillance and human self-censorship as a result, back in 1949. That book essentially prophesied what we all found out through Edward Snowden 64 years in advance!! Let that sink in.
I did watch live this interview back then and Always thought this guy was a great lunatic. Nowadays he was right and he's legacy is superb!!
GUIRADE
Well I guess you had the feeling each contemporary had of Leonardo da Vinci, sir Newton or Henry Ford....every real genius is never fully understood in his early life and positions...or he/she would not be a genius being that genial thought is simply the ability to forsee and elaborate something that will happen in the future.
I always use the example of Vincent VanGogh: his contemporaries not only didn't recognize his genius but openly told him he should do something other than painting at which he "was really awful", actually he famously sold only one painting only to his brother who bought it out of pity for his miserable economic conditions. Now the very discendants of his contemporaries queue up to see his marvelous work in the VanGogh National Museum in Amstrdam. :-)
Agreed - Strange example I know, but reminds me of the analogy my great grandmother used when us school girls hesitantly admitted we didn't like the boys from our school - only the boys from the school across town. Her response "No man is a prophet in his own land." It difficult to recognize greatness from people within our own social circles.
He was only 26. What have I done with my life??
That question ran across my mind also
Act now!
well you outlived him
Dont worry buddy you are not alone
Job's private life was a train wreck; if you truly love those who are important to you, you're already streets ahead.
Notice how Jobs sidestepped the question "will we be controlled by computers." He knew the answer to that question too well.
Gooood point!
Let's just watch kids use them. Yeah dude, kids are for the most part innocent. Watch a politician/government use them and you will get the answer that jobs didn't want to admit.
@mrbrockpeters people like Jobbs were way ahead of their time. Heck, if I remember correctly Nikola Tesla stated something about this.
He diverted & used the innocent image of kids to balance out the negative opinion. Freaking genius!
@@ZubinB how is that genius you dumbass? He used appeal to emotion, you can learn that in a community college public speaking class.
I can't believe this newscast is almost 40 years old.
Haha a fellow recommended. For a real mind fuck check this out th-cam.com/video/sTdWQAKzESA/w-d-xo.html
1981: Steve Jobs - "Computers are going to amplify our intelligence"
2021: TikTok
Да, всё пошло по пизде
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And the winning comment goes to...izools! LOL - great analysis!
Killing brain cells effectively
I’ve probably learned more from tiktok than any other application ever.
Strange feeling to see this in 2017.
Delete this
The Ashton Kutcher resemblance is even closer than I imagined.
i mean, it talks about software bugs, computers taking over people’s jobs, and invasion of privacy…
all still concerns. how weird.
Shreyansh Tiwari haha, see you in 2078. Maybe
2019
Solar panels in a home all the way back in 1980 already!?
Where did we go wrong...
Reagan
Lorem Ipsum lol no.
Dreams don't equal reality, that's where.
We had wristwatches with calculators in them too!
The oil industry bought out soal power energy, signed buy bush...they own oil and will lose money to solar.
1981: They were concerned about computers stealing our privacy
2019: Mark Zukerburg hold my beer
Just feel off my dinosaur
amazing how that aged well from '81
i don't understand. Facebook doesn't have any information that you yourself haven't shared with them under warning. If you are afraid for your privacy, don't post shit online about yourself.
@@marko6489 Found the Facebook employee. Become an hero. Facebook is installed by default on many mobile phones and is in many cases unable to be removed by normal means, short of something like jailbreaking the phone.
That anti-computer guy had some pretty valid points.
If only he delivered them better...
He probably got hired by the US government to implement universal surveillance after he gave up trying to fight it.
@@cielant how would he knew that in 1981
At first, I thought he was anti-computer too but I think instead of being that he simply wanted people to acknowledge the potential dangers of heading into a computer world, and he was right. Today we got hackers, scammers, the NSA, and that famous computer just two years after this interview that wanted to play the game of thermal nuclear war lol
Right! And I bet he ended up using computers anyway.
This interview is priceless!
No! It’s timeless!
🍷Agreed this one with Steve as well as the entire intro of computers taking over - privacy becoming a conference really stands out for its time..
1981: "You can't do the simplest things today without using a computer."
2020: "Hold my digital beer."
Hold my beer emoji
😂😂😂😂
You couldn't do the simplest thing without a computer in `81 ? Now that's a load of crap
@@gorillaman283 🍺 you can have it back now
Steve Jobs was way ahead of his times. Genius in logic, discrete math, very articulate at 26 years old.
As much as I'm a proponent of Steve Jobs I don't think giving him umerited adulation is necessary. He wasn't a mathematician . He was just a mere salesman and an artist that understood the intricacies of simplicity. Pardon my double entandre.
He was an amazing visionary and inventor who mastered communication to the high art.
@Yahweh5995 , I am a mathematician and PhD. from the top university in America. After graduation, I worked on financial institutions focusing on the evaluation of the companies. Leadership is one of the most important factors in consideration. There were many PCs at time, without Steve Jobs' vision and leadership, Apple 1 was a toy for hobbyists. Apple 2 would disappear in a few years. Apple, as a company, would disappear and fail company in history in 1997, rather than being the most valuable company today. This world does not lack super smart people who understand the most advanced topics in mathematics or engineering.
@@weizheng673 What would you consider Steve Jobs strong points (as a leader) Educate me with Apple 1, and 2 please. Good topic!
@@rogerfournier3284 Steve is a visionary, he clearly thinks in abstractions but not in the way a mathematician does, he abstracts reality to get to the core fundamentals in order to address business needs in the form of tech products.
So smart and articulate at only 26, this guy was one of its kind for sure since he was born.
what 26 is pretty old no mattert what time gen z just want to be treated like kids until they turn 30
@@playoffl36ron8mid 20’s isn’t old lol especially for a leader of one of the most successful computer companies 😂😂
When "Home-Computer Owner" was a title for a man 😆
that man, Jobs truly had an amazing mind. The things he talked about back then, amazing. He was as the interviewer mentioned a philosopher.
Jobs' deflection here is brilliant. The man who was speaking about the possible issues with computers is obviously correct in regards to the potential dangers but Steve's way of just not focusing on the negative and pushing his vision is quite impressive.
Yeah, but you've gotta keep in mind that personal computers were not common (1 in 1,000 household Jobs says in this interview), so he really doesn't want to admit to a wide (and largely computer-illiterate) audience the potential dangers.
He didn’t side step completely. He was speaking to an extremely digital illiterate crowd. His point was essentially a nice way of saying “if you know how to use a computer, you understand how it’s not going to control you.”
@@Josh-hz8vz They said computers but what they really meant was who controls your data/information controls you. They were pretty litterate on that one.
@@discretelycontinuous2059 I really wonder what Jobs would say now; I'm mean, he's been gone, what, less than a decade? But I would love to see if he had any thoughts on whether he would push the things that he did, based upon where we are now. I.e., do you have any regrets about leading the digital revolution that ultimately integrated man and machine and enabled near-dystopian control (e.g., China)?
hes 26 in this video?! he speaks like a seasoned 40yo!
Check out a political debate or a celebrity tv show from the same era. People weren't as debased and intellectually deficient back then. Maybe it really was the led in the water supply? Trans-fats? Whatever it was it destroyed us.
@@deadheads1352 perhaps it was the computer it's self...
@@deadheads1352 You just had to be in a different league to get on TV back then. People haven't gotten dumber, it's just easier for the dumb ones to make noise.
Try high school debates. Back in the 80s we had 16-17 year old kids having a political debate just like the Presidential debate and the students would vote for the high school President. Those kids spoke just as intelligently as Steve Jobs in this video.
@@deadheads1352 To be fair, Jobs was highly intelligent, intellectually and creatively he was a genius. Not a great example for the baseline of discourse 40 years ago.
The discussion is still relevant today. Awesome interview, and Jobs was spot on in his analysis of the future of the computer market
I'm amazed by how visionary he was nearly 40 years ago. He's talking but this technology being a trailblazer for the 21st century, and how right he was. Computer literacy has indeed approached 1:1. RIP Mr Jobs, wherever you are.
drinking game:
take a shot, every time they mention "computer".
Done. *dies of alcohol poisoning
What's a computer?
Computer: 30 Computers: 31 Computarized: 2
@@zackstaa7826 don’t worry, a computer will take your place
A death sentence
David Burnham was precisely right in voicing concern about the spread or personal computers. He was in fact quite prescient. Privacy issues abound today with the proliferation of computers in their various forms. Jobs seems to identify prevalent with literacy. That's a flawed assumption. Just because computers are everywhere, doesn't mean people understand them better. It's this ignorance that individuals and organisations and governments have preyed on. Burnham was ahead of his time.
Yeah, I feel the same way.
"Jobs seems to identify prevalent with literacy. That's a flawed assumption. Just because computers are everywhere, doesn't mean people understand them better."
Catch me on this if I'm wrong... But isn't that exactly what is happening?
Depending on how we define "literacy"-in the context of computers, as Jobs mentioned-whether it means the understanding of the inner workings-, how to program them or how to operate them; in any of the definitions that has hold true.
- There are more developers now than ever, and it is growing rapidly. Jobs for programming are increasingly growing.
- It's fair to say that most people know how to use a computer, being it a phone, tablet or desktop.
- More and more hardware is coming out-mostly for enthusiasts-which allows you to program and build your own computers for little to no money.
- Computers-and in some places, programming-is taught in school and used as learning and work tool.
I think it's fair to assume, that a big part of the reason that this is possible is due to the wide distribution and availability of technology and computers in most-if not all-corners of the world.
You do realize people die everyday right? If computers become more apparent and taught at young ages then those like our grandparents and even our parents now who don't necessarily understand the functions of most technology, will eventually pass and their ignorance will fade with that generation. And from that will come a society that is fully aware of the fun and dangers of online usage and computers in general. The change towards that future has already begone and by the time 2030 comes around, i doubt anyone in America (and maybe the world too) will have any problems using a computer.
What a great and prescient program! (It reminds me how much I miss Ted Koppel's "Nightline" for its high-quality reporting and interviews.) Both Steve Jobs and David Burnham see so clearly parts of the future that will be reshaped by the computer revolution, but Jobs sees the good (democratizing access to computers, computers amplifying human intelligence for positive purposes) and Burnham sees the bad (government surveillance programs).
We used to have a much more cerebral and civil culture. It has become shallow and vapid now.
It's because respect and decency are dying by the ignorant and hateful things we choose to say to one another on social media, including on TH-cam.
@@marknowlin8356 🍷👍True..
So true
@@marknowlin8356 Don't judge just because you haven't attempted a conversation with a bloke on the street since the 90s.
People are generally just as respectful as those from 40 years ago. The internet is a great way to express our opinion without diluting it for the sake of others.
Great to see this, and hear Steve Jobs' early insights. Thanks for posting.
I miss Steven Jobs I met him a long time ago about two years before this interview at consumer electronics show in Las Vegas. He was charismatic, a genius and you could smell him from 5 feet away.
What do you mean you could smell him 5 feet away. What did he smell like?
@@markflierl1624 Body Odor. Don't know what you know about Steve in his younger years, but he considered bathing optional and rarely did it. There is the story when he worked at Atari that he was brilliant but people did not want to be around him.
I still admired him and miss his genius. I made a living off his products and appreciate them and him.
@@markflierl1624 Computers, obviously
@@BeAPickle It's been reported that he had a legendary body odor problem!
1981: "And i hope we use them for the good things that Mr. Jobs sees in them."
2020: AI is about to take over the world.
Everybody is yaking ahhh how great jobs was....but the semi bald guy is 100 right
@@stallio5612 Absolutely right. Thought the same exact thing.
AI is nowhere near that level.
@4:04 " home computer owner" LOL. Today that's like the equivalent of interviewing someone who owns a pair of shoes.
Trust me the average home computer was more in 1981 then in 2001. The prices came way down. My dad couldn't afford one, but we did get the Texas Instruments Computer when it went out of production in late '83 and they sold them off at a cheap price. We had to wait in line before the store opened, then ran in. LOL. I learned how to type of "Touch Typing Tutor." program cartridge.
an apple IIe set up with cpu, monitor, and disk drives back in the early 80's was about 2000-3000 dollars. in current money that would be about 6000-9000 dollars so yeah they were expensive. one of my classmates's parents bought one back then and they didn't let anyone eat or drink near the thing. it was a huge investment for people.
What would be today's equivalent of 1980 home computer owner? Maybe a 3D printer owner?
@@Martinit0 Electric car owner
I know people who STILL haven't bought a computer; they think it's good thing, i.e., that they don't have one.I've given up trying to convince them.
Jobs was so sharp n fluid! Tremendous salesman, took a negative sentiment (invading privacy) and turned it into a selling point (personal computers to be computer literate).
Zgnid Olias I thought the same
Yep, he was always a reality-distorting con man.
except it was all made up. You can be as computer literate as you want... how would it protect goverments from spying on you?
Zgnid Olias p
do you really want th answer? that was a very dumb comment.
Steve Jobs was a hardass salesman
In that Interview, Steve jobs looked like Christian Bale from American Hustle.
Adam Bottjen they should of made a Steve Jobs with Christian Bale as Jobs.
No he looked like Ashton Kutcher in Jobs.
@@IblewuponyourfaceIII Bale knows how to rage like Jobs.
"You can throw it out the window if the relationship isn't going so well..."
Actually did this with a pentium machine as a teenager. End of life the thing gave me endless grief, locked up one day and I was done. Case went right out the second story window onto the driveway and just collapsed in a sea of silicon and metal. The catharsis is hard to put into words.
I quote and I love it: " computers allow humans to do what they do best which is to work on a conceptual level, to work on a creative level"
That guy was so far ahead of his time. David Burnham i mean- even further ahead than steve.
@OG HerefanoPatriot Act came out in 2001, long before Obama. The vast extent of it came out in 2006, still 2 years before Obama. Might want to check your facts.
@@jose2292 How quickly people forget.
Living Proof you can’t even spell you stupid fucking hick.
I thought that TV reporter's voice died out in the 60s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_accent for reference, is the actual name of that style.
fake hair too
He doesn't have a Mid-Atlantic accent. That was a Hollywood thing. He's speaking standard American English. It just sounds strange because so many people butcher it today.
苑安雄 That's a pretty textbook Mid-Atlantic accent
It's a mid atlantic accent spoken with the news reporter accent but it is strongly mid atlantic. You can tell by the way his words slur at the end of his pronouncing them. News reporter words are clipped
this is a great historical record and fascinating.
Its nice to see John Kennedy takes interview to Steve
Hahaha
Love him or hate him, Jobs was a brilliant guy.
LOL Just another dodgy salesman with suckers for customers LOL Candy-colored computers, seriously?
@@CaesarCassius Oh how naive y;ou are. He's the reason why your dumbass can use a computer. He personalized it to make the computer easy enough for the average dummy like you.
@@bioches Considering most of his ideas were stolen from Xerox, hardly. Not only that, IBM created the first PC 3 years before Macintosh came onto the market. Every Windows-based computer, of which is 90% of the current market, is based on the IBM. The only thing modern PCs adopted that Apple popularized is the mouse, which was developed by Xerox.
@@danem2215 execution is a hugee part of success. xerox didnt know nor did they want to commercialize their gui.
I don't buy Apple for many different reasons that I won't bother explaining, but denying Jobs intelligence is plain stupid. He was a genius, but you can't expect an idiot to understand a genius.
Refreshing to see a news report from back when the news simply reported the news rather than fabricate it with conspicuous bias.
Interestingly, there was little concern of personal computers invading privacy at the time....in 1981. That, of course, was because the worldwide web was not connected to your personal home computer in 1981. That wouldn't be available until the early 1990's. Today, there is legitimate reason for privacy concerns in regard to personal computing.
Richard Nixon would have creamed himself if he had the kind of access to personal information that modern governments and corporations have with the ubiquity of social media.
Media was always designed to manipulate you and brainwash you
Observe his intellectual ability to converse at that level at the age of 26. Truly fascinating.
I didn't see him answer the tougher questions, just repeat his own mantras over and over again.
not really, you should get smarter friends.
Peter Gazdik so true, I was thinking the same.
Peter Chan he smart, what you expect??
John Smith myself and all the others here are trying to deal with our own limitations.
10:18 Spot-on, Mr. Jobs. Computer literacy is massively important in combating centralized authoritarianism. However, speaking now as someone 40 years in the future of this video; I’d like to also add that meta-cognition, self-confidence, and critical-thinking are just as important; so that we don’t slip into herd mentality echo chambers and propaganda bombardment - the likes of which can be seen in abundance on social media platforms like Twitter and right here on TH-cam.
💡 Excellent point, well said. What next?
@@jfish032 dismantle and rebuild the education system
@@MarioGreco and where do we start?
@@jfish032 gamify learning, allow students to advance at their own pace, and promote a stronger focus on concepts such as logic and critical thinking.
@@MarioGreco Marry me
Amazing foresight in both the interviewer and interviewees
5:08 Early stages of Google Chrome "you are offline" page
Stop using Chrome, a shit browser by a shit privacy invading corporation
@@Tenraiden Dissenter is a good alternative
Use firefox and if you want something that looks like chrome (uses chromium) use brave or ungoogled chromium
I use Edge.
I use America Online.
Very fascinating stuff...R.I.P. Steve Jobs
Matt Olivier A little of selfishness is always required to make success in the life.
Amazing and intelligent conversation, wonderful!!
That was fantastic! now Nightline is a newsmagazine with each segment being about 3 ditzy minutes. This is one of the most prophetic things that I have seen on TH-cam. I didn't care at ALL about computers back then while my friend Chuck bought a $10,000 Apple Lisa. Now they are a MAIN hobby of mine. Wait until A.I. becomes ubiquitous! Humankind is in for one bumpy ride ahead.
This is my new favorite interview of the great modern-day industry titan, like Rockefeller & Ford. This video is proof that Steve Jobs was also a true visionary from the very beginning.
David Burnham, investigative journalist, passed away today. His questions are more relevant now than before.
The guy just had a certain magic about him
he's grandson of prophet muhammed
Yes, steve has a "reality distortion field" around him
Arne Noori
Very well defined purpose, intelligence, extreme confidence, and burning desire.
The amazing thing about this is how relevant the discussion still is now. Nothing has really changed, the technology has just gotten smaller, faster and cheaper. And where we are today, everybody could see coming then. If anything, it's taken longer than some thought. The world we live in today really started around 1980, when PCs and cell phones started reaching the consumer market. Add the World Wide Web ten years later, and you have everything we have now. Just big, slow and expensive. As I type this on my MacBook Pro and send it over Gigabit broadband, I'm still doing the same thing people could do then.
Yeah but you could be doing it without using a overpriced under specced piece of dog shit that you pick from brand loyalty alone like a dumb fuck.
@@serialdrunkdriver ikr, who tf uses a macbook in 2020, AMD ftw
How nice and easy and intellectual people were, Amazing, Thanks for Sharing.
"I knew Steve Jobs for five years before Apple. He didn't know anything about insides of a computer, he wasn't an engineer but he knew how to look at products. Steve wanted to live a zero money life, he was more of a true hippie," said Wozniak. “Steve Jobs played no role at all in any of my designs of the Apple I and Apple II computer and printer interfaces and serial interfaces and floppy disks and stuff that I made to enhance the computers. He did not know technology. He’d never designed anything as a hardware engineer, and he didn’t know software. He wanted to be important, and the important people are always the business people. So that’s what he wanted to do.”
Bill Burr said the same thing 😂
@k a LOL
Steves refering to the amplification of free energy. hes refrecneing the great ppyramid at giza. god you ppl are stooopid
@@norpriest521 bill burr was teh star of a mandalorian episode. i thinkkk hee knows what hes talkking aobut
@@garyenwards1608
Another Jobs lemming spotted 😂
"Currently the computer to household ratio is about 1 in 1000, in the next 5-7 years it'll be 1 in 10, ultimately it'll be 1 in 1"
Not a bad guess, Steve, but now there are more computers per household than persons, thanks in part to you!
you could argue that the increase was due more to cheap pc's and microsoft during the 90's than the efforts of apple. apple sold more to schools (k-12 and some colleges) but cheap pricing is what drove sales and apple was never about cheap pricing. cell phones are similar with cheap pricing or free phone with contracts in the early 2000's.
yeah, I didn't get one until the 90's for that reason. The 80's our high school didn't get one until they had a fund raiser for it. They were like $1,000+ then, so we're talking like $2,000+ in today's dollars (not many are going to spend that much on one device).
Today it's more likely around 10 to 1.
I lived those two eras, before and after internet, and I can't stop comparing between them. I really can't decide which was better!!!
David Burnham is way ahead of everyone, talked about privacy when PC was in its infancy. Wonder nowadays, who can have these tremendous foresight to talk about all this technology advancement.
Alpha Dragon Capital it wasnt *that* much foresight, they later said that the IRS was tracking welfare cheats and that the civil libterties union had previously said that was too far, it was probably just an observation.
I love Steve Jobs - his predictions were spot on ... @10:44 - from1/1000 in 1981 to 1/1 now.
Amazing interviewer! Very clever questions.
I just want to go back in time in 1981 and bring my smart phone with me and show these journalists what a powerful computer looks like.
O want to go back and sell my Android phone to Jobs for 100 million dollars.
Michel Bastos 🤣
The thing is, in the 80's without a cell network, your phone wouldn't be very smart or powerful at all. At best it would be very nice looking calculator.
Same lol
@@77dris Nope. It could Animate Graphically intense programs very well.
Talk about ahead of his time. Still relevant even today.
Without computers it would be almost impossible for us to watch Steve Jobs explaining this to us even after he is gone... computers let us inspire those in the future.
Steve Jobs was talking in 1981. He seemed like he is talking now in 2020. Genius period.
He's just 26 y/o here. Chairman at this age. Truly exceptional.
Thanks for sharing this video. RIP Steve Jobs.
"the 21st century bicycle ".
it's 2015 and just about every citizen has a computer in their pocket, 75% of whom stare at it all day long.
90%
...they are the iPhone zombies...
or android zombies....
or windows phone zombies... hahaha
pretty sure the windows phone died before 2015.
One day we will be watching this video through a neural network implanted into our brain and be like “i can’t believe computers used to be outside of our bodies.”
Sooner we will live stream it in our heads...
Cant wait for that
i will be dead long before then thanks..
Who else got this recommended out of nowhere?
People in this time: I can't wait to see how much we advance with technology in the future!
Now: Rule 34
same with the camera. movie gets invented. a few years later, porn. 1880's porn was fun to watch in movie class
Rule 34 was first recorded as a rule in 2006. That isn't that current for a date of origin.
1981 - 2006: 25 years
2006 - 2021: 15 years.
So it's three fifths of the way to being as old, it isn't something I'd call "now" - though the rule may still be highly applicable. There are many advancements of course, this simplified view is unremarkable and unrepresentative.
This amazes me and how much the technology grows, changes and affects us. There's negatives but there's so much positive in all of this we should be grateful for. People got too spoiled judging small differences in devices nowadays and it's really impressive what we can use and do. Don't forget it.
WOW.
This puts in perspective:
How much technology has developed over the years.
How unpredictable future world of tech was just 40 years ago (and this can apply to our current views on next decades).
How some individuals with vision can achieve great things that seem impossible (Steve Jobs).
It makes me feel very grateful for everything we have today.
It makes me feel hopeful for everything we may achieve as civilization in future.
It makes me feel like I know nothing about how the future will look, through analyzing people and the current world.
We know nothing, but can achieve great things.
Human kind has a huge potential, but lot of work needs to go towards progress and making our world a better place.
privacy, still a hot topic in tech to this day... very interesting. Amazing video!
I am mesmerized at the how big a vision certain people like Steve Jobs have. How they can far see the potential in things. Like they saw in Computers. It's crazy how their mind worked and how their thoughts projected
thank you for sharing such rare footage.
this interview, still relevant today. amazing.
Back when journalists are journalists with no overt political agenda.
expsterm1 i was thinking the same thing..
what on earth aer you talking about, what political agenda do you expect in a conversation about computers
Excellent video from 1981.
Even though I happily own a Samsung Android phone I have a lot of respect for what Steve Jobs contributed to the technology we all use
We've come so far in 35 years.
Well in some ways we have. In other ways we have gone backwards.
Not exactly. I'm surprised to see in this video that they had the same questions that we are still having.
35 years is a long fucking time
80 years actually. In 1948 they started on electronic digital computers. Thousands of years when you take into account the mechanical ones like soroban. We haven't come anywhere, that's a simple minded buffoon statement. We simply were, humans have pushed at stuff like this forever.
I remember 1981 in Jr High School. Computers weren't really on our radar yet.
I was not born when this video was recorded but I'm watching this in 2020 saddened realising that Steve passed away few yrs ago