@@peterc504You just spam the same comment on all videos on the topic? Planetary Annihilation was fundamentally different from SupCom which is why it didn't take off. I applaud them for trying to expand the scope, but sticking closely to what works so well seems to be what will make a spiritual successor... successful. It doesn't have to be categorically better, it just needs to be very close, but with modern capabilities.
I'm really excited for this game. But man Supreme Commander 3 would've done wonders. I know the second one didn't do well but holy they could've made a really good story with it with how it ended and a lot of improvements from community feedback. But as of now this game will suffice on being SC3 (Not literally lol)
I'm looking forward to this game a lot I was a big fan of Supreme commander and expansion forged alliance I will be bying this game on day 1 it comes out
I hope we can see something to excite and hype things...I remember when GPG first showed SUpcom at e3...I was totally wowed & the actual game turned out exactly like that trailer!! I want to see air sea land combat with Commanders in the battle...Ive seen none of that with this game yet...
I do find myself zoomed out playing the macro level often but I do like zooming in with the high tier units and watching them unleash on the enemy - Tom
You said simulated weapons, as in every round is physically tracked by the game engine? That is going to tear my poor little 3050 ti to shreds. Impressive technical accomplishment though.
Yes, every projectile has some physics and units actually calculate how to fire it to hit a moving target, but don't worry (and if you want to worry, most likely your CPU is in bigger danger than GPU) - in supcom FAF for example weak computers are dealing fine with all that somewhere until 2 thousand units, which is very good considering that the game engine sucked and only utilized single core for almost all physics. Devs of Sanctuary aim to comfortably have around 10k units on the map total.
Decs don't like to rush the official "state" of the game, if I can say so - safer for them and leaves more room for uncertainties. But the fact is its definitely much further than it was before. I would even say the stage of the game might be quite further than what is available to the public as of right now, since we didn't have any dew blog updates or anything big in like 2 or 3 weeks already. They are VERY likely to be hiding surprises for upcoming kickstarter later this year.
Looks good, but why is there a star underneath when the surface is destroyed? The action takes place on the outer surface of the Dyson sphere and there is lighting, shadows, etc.
Sphere has lots of holes spread all around it that let a bit of light out, which is then reflected back on the surface by mirror satellites in orbit. Sphere is too small(0.024AU in radius) for anything to live on the inside, so people have to live on the outside
I hope it will be good. I stopped playing SupCom, because at late game the sim speed drops to -3 or -4 with 3-4000 units, so there were a savegame, where against A.l. the gametime was 1 hour 10 minutes, but it was almost double the total playtime for that match. How much it will be moddable? There were some really good mods for SupCom and FA, i personally would like to see a 1980-1990 era modern mod with realisticly scaled units, including infantry squads, APC-s, tanks, helis, jets, ships with realistic sizes. With max 10k units, it checks a lot of boxes.
Devs prioritize quite high making game easy to mod. I am not a dev and have no idea how their game works, but I doubt your idea with infantry squads is gonna really work unless it is a bunch of separate small units like raid bots are in supcom.
Idk how im going to find time to play. Lol i still play 1997s total annihilation with the escalation mod 😂 what are your pc specs if i may? I have an i9-13000k 13th gen, 96 gigs ddr5, and nvidia 3070. How do you think my system will handle it?
Is there any other games like supreme Commander / Planetary Annihilation like this? This is putting me in the mood to playing some awesome RTS, but I don't know if there is any other grand scale ones like this one while I'm stuck waiting...
@@LTGamingTH-cam Any others to the list? Also, do you suggest one of those two over the other? I've been giving them a try, but I've always... honestly sucked at these games, despite how much fun that they are to play XD. Always on the hunt for more of 'em.
One issue I have with their world building. How can a section of the dyson sphere fall down into the sun, when the sunlight is coming from the other side?
One thing that bugs me about the setup here: A Dyson sphere is constructed around the sun and you live on the INNER surface (sun above you), not the outside. It's not like you just made a big planet with a star inside. If you lived on the outside, there would be no light because you covered up the sun. If you blow a hole in the surface it should open to empty space, not the star.
That completely depends on how it was designed. It might have been built very closely to the sun, with the purpose that you live in the terraformed surface.
Sanctuary is only 0.024 AU(at which distance sun conveniently gives 1g gravity)in radius and is in our solar system - anything on the inside will immediately get cooked. To have light on the outside, Sanctuary has many holes spread all around it to let a small amount of light out, that is then reflected back on surface with mirror satellites.
@Ricky-oc4xc Exactly. Such a design also makes much more sense than "standart" Dyson spheres that are made to live on the inside, considering that priority number 1 of Dyson Sphere is to gather as much energy as possible - living on the inside is waste of space that could have been used for solar panels. Oh, and making them big enough to be on a safe distance from the sun to live in would make the cost of Dyson sphere even more absurd than it is already.
the biggest issue with this game so far is , there are 90% tanks and hovers, instead of robots , and also the animations look really bad , and not entertaining.Supreme Commander will always be number one , and BAR.Lets see the future.Maybe Sanctuary will surprise me.
"Robots"(if you mean any walker, including 4+ legged units) are not finished in big numbers yet because they require a lot of animations. Oh, and at least half of those clips are like half year old -For EDA it is not even their style at all honestly. Only 2 walker units I know off from them are T3 and T4 sniper bots. -Guard have 4 legged units at this point - T1 raid bot, T3 heavy bot, T4 lazer bot and T4 mobile artillery bot. There are also T2/T3 raid bot and T2/t3 mobile artillery bots, but on Trello they are still listed as concept and we haven't had updates in a long time on them. Also 5-legged commander -Chosen have 5 legged units so far + bipedal commander - T1 raid bot, T3 assault bot, T4 assault bot(may not count since it hovers, but kinda has legs and looks like a robot otherwise), just T4 walker with 6 legs and a T5 Titan. And just for comparison - Cybran in Supcom FAF has 9 units with legs total(Guard have 8 on trello already, and that is at least third of its units still missing.) UEF has only 4 legged units Aeon only has 5(same as Chosen). Seraphim has 5 So the amount of robot units should be fine in the game. "look really bad , and not entertaining" Well, what we have right now is simply the very core of the game made functional by devs - they didn't have time yet to add all the cool flavor stuff. You have to build the dull, grey walls, roofs and foundation first before you can start decorating and filling in the house. If you want to know about more cool stuff that is planned, I recommend joining their discord server and asking there.
The problem I have with large-scale RTS games is that it just seems unrealistic when multiple large armies battle each other. No one would do something like that in real life, and such large-scale battlefields, in my opinion, should at least have some semblance of reality, but in my opinion, they don't. Group A throws its units at group B and constantly builds more cannon fodder. Unfortunately, that's about all I can think of, even though it looks very interesting.
And in real life we don't have technology to make a tank on site in 20 seconds, and no human player is gonna be able to spread those forces all across the frontline evenly without AI( which in my opinion is game playing itself instead of player) so what is the point exactly? If we had the technology and capability to produce so many machines at site, such "cannon fodder" battles would be exactly what we would use. Remember - those units are achines that cost somewhat nothing, and after battle you could recycle the wrecks to get your resources back. Why wouldn't you crush your try to crush your enemy with numbers if you have many more than he does in combination with strategy? The game is set on a Dyson sphere that has tons of empty space in between structures that actually matter in the war - it makes absolute sense to focus all the forces around that single small point of interest.
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This game looks so damn good. I hope the kickstarter will be a success and everything will go like planned.
Added it to my Wishlist. Thanks for sharing. Total Annihilation is still one of my all time favorite games.
My first thought when I saw the game: Supreme Commander. I was bought and I'm waiting for the premiere 😁
Yes, I feel this can be the spiritual successor, looking forward to a full build to try - Tom
Hopefully it can surpass supcom...if not then another pointless game...like planetary annhilation lol
@@peterc504You just spam the same comment on all videos on the topic? Planetary Annihilation was fundamentally different from SupCom which is why it didn't take off. I applaud them for trying to expand the scope, but sticking closely to what works so well seems to be what will make a spiritual successor... successful. It doesn't have to be categorically better, it just needs to be very close, but with modern capabilities.
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I'm really excited for this game. But man Supreme Commander 3 would've done wonders. I know the second one didn't do well but holy they could've made a really good story with it with how it ended and a lot of improvements from community feedback. But as of now this game will suffice on being SC3 (Not literally lol)
This game just keeps on getting better
Glad to get this on the channel! Enjoy!
I'm looking forward to this game a lot I was a big fan of Supreme commander and expansion forged alliance I will be bying this game on day 1 it comes out
Yes, I think this can be a great continuation of the TA and SC vibe - Tom
Wishlisted from the moment i heared it. I cant WAAAAIT !
I’m a big fan of epic super weapons … count me IN doods 🐸😎🐌🍷❤️🇩🇰
Awesomesauce!
Another for the wishlist, you are killing my wallet these days!!
The sequel to Dyson Sphere Program certainly took a more dystopian turn!
😁 it did indeed!
I hope we can see something to excite and hype things...I remember when GPG first showed SUpcom at e3...I was totally wowed & the actual game turned out exactly like that trailer!! I want to see air sea land combat with Commanders in the battle...Ive seen none of that with this game yet...
Not my kind of game but still an enjoyable watch, thanks 🙂
Thanks for watching mate!
You should give beyond all reason a showcase!
I have done this before but yes I think a refresher be good 💯
It actually pushed your GPU to the limit, not CPU, as the game doesnt have many graphics optimizations yet.
Looks great, interested to know if the design means players end up staying zoomed out all the time instead of getting up close
I do find myself zoomed out playing the macro level often but I do like zooming in with the high tier units and watching them unleash on the enemy - Tom
You said simulated weapons, as in every round is physically tracked by the game engine? That is going to tear my poor little 3050 ti to shreds. Impressive technical accomplishment though.
Yes, every projectile has some physics and units actually calculate how to fire it to hit a moving target, but don't worry (and if you want to worry, most likely your CPU is in bigger danger than GPU) - in supcom FAF for example weak computers are dealing fine with all that somewhere until 2 thousand units, which is very good considering that the game engine sucked and only utilized single core for almost all physics. Devs of Sanctuary aim to comfortably have around 10k units on the map total.
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Looks incredible!
I've been hearing about this game at least for 3-4 years and it's still "in very early stages of development".
Decs don't like to rush the official "state" of the game, if I can say so - safer for them and leaves more room for uncertainties.
But the fact is its definitely much further than it was before. I would even say the stage of the game might be quite further than what is available to the public as of right now, since we didn't have any dew blog updates or anything big in like 2 or 3 weeks already. They are VERY likely to be hiding surprises for upcoming kickstarter later this year.
Looks good, but why is there a star underneath when the surface is destroyed? The action takes place on the outer surface of the Dyson sphere and there is lighting, shadows, etc.
Sphere has lots of holes spread all around it that let a bit of light out, which is then reflected back on the surface by mirror satellites in orbit. Sphere is too small(0.024AU in radius) for anything to live on the inside, so people have to live on the outside
I hope it will be good. I stopped playing SupCom, because at late game the sim speed drops to -3 or -4 with 3-4000 units, so there were a savegame, where against A.l. the gametime was 1 hour 10 minutes, but it was almost double the total playtime for that match.
How much it will be moddable?
There were some really good mods for SupCom and FA, i personally would like to see a 1980-1990 era modern mod with realisticly scaled units, including infantry squads, APC-s, tanks, helis, jets, ships with realistic sizes.
With max 10k units, it checks a lot of boxes.
Devs prioritize quite high making game easy to mod. I am not a dev and have no idea how their game works, but I doubt your idea with infantry squads is gonna really work unless it is a bunch of separate small units like raid bots are in supcom.
Idk how im going to find time to play. Lol i still play 1997s total annihilation with the escalation mod 😂 what are your pc specs if i may? I have an i9-13000k 13th gen, 96 gigs ddr5, and nvidia 3070. How do you think my system will handle it?
Is there any other games like supreme Commander / Planetary Annihilation like this? This is putting me in the mood to playing some awesome RTS, but I don't know if there is any other grand scale ones like this one while I'm stuck waiting...
Beyond All Reason or Zero-K both free and both heavily TA and SC inspired games that you will enjoy - Tom
@@LTGamingTH-cam Any others to the list? Also, do you suggest one of those two over the other? I've been giving them a try, but I've always... honestly sucked at these games, despite how much fun that they are to play XD. Always on the hunt for more of 'em.
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One issue I have with their world building. How can a section of the dyson sphere fall down into the sun, when the sunlight is coming from the other side?
Many holes to let light out and reflected by mirrors in space. Sanctuary is only 0.024 AU in radius - nothing can live on inside.
@@volodymyr_budii Ok, if that's the actual lore, that makes me feel better
One thing that bugs me about the setup here: A Dyson sphere is constructed around the sun and you live on the INNER surface (sun above you), not the outside. It's not like you just made a big planet with a star inside. If you lived on the outside, there would be no light because you covered up the sun. If you blow a hole in the surface it should open to empty space, not the star.
That completely depends on how it was designed. It might have been built very closely to the sun, with the purpose that you live in the terraformed surface.
Sanctuary is only 0.024 AU(at which distance sun conveniently gives 1g gravity)in radius and is in our solar system - anything on the inside will immediately get cooked. To have light on the outside, Sanctuary has many holes spread all around it to let a small amount of light out, that is then reflected back on surface with mirror satellites.
@Ricky-oc4xc Exactly. Such a design also makes much more sense than "standart" Dyson spheres that are made to live on the inside, considering that priority number 1 of Dyson Sphere is to gather as much energy as possible - living on the inside is waste of space that could have been used for solar panels.
Oh, and making them big enough to be on a safe distance from the sun to live in would make the cost of Dyson sphere even more absurd than it is already.
>no lights
binary star system
@DmitryKey No binary star system - game is set in our solar system and nobody developed interstellar travel yet.
Tons of Supreme Commander Clones coming out lately. But I long for C&C done right with FMVs
Tempest Rising soon
@@battlebunny88 hopefully its good, no FMV and a unit cap gives me some doubts
the biggest issue with this game so far is , there are 90% tanks and hovers, instead of robots , and also the animations look really bad , and not entertaining.Supreme Commander will always be number one , and BAR.Lets see the future.Maybe Sanctuary will surprise me.
"Robots"(if you mean any walker, including 4+ legged units) are not finished in big numbers yet because they require a lot of animations. Oh, and at least half of those clips are like half year old
-For EDA it is not even their style at all honestly. Only 2 walker units I know off from them are T3 and T4 sniper bots.
-Guard have 4 legged units at this point - T1 raid bot, T3 heavy bot, T4 lazer bot and T4 mobile artillery bot. There are also T2/T3 raid bot and T2/t3 mobile artillery bots, but on Trello they are still listed as concept and we haven't had updates in a long time on them. Also 5-legged commander
-Chosen have 5 legged units so far + bipedal commander - T1 raid bot, T3 assault bot, T4 assault bot(may not count since it hovers, but kinda has legs and looks like a robot otherwise), just T4 walker with 6 legs and a T5 Titan.
And just for comparison - Cybran in Supcom FAF has 9 units with legs total(Guard have 8 on trello already, and that is at least third of its units still missing.)
UEF has only 4 legged units
Aeon only has 5(same as Chosen).
Seraphim has 5
So the amount of robot units should be fine in the game.
"look really bad , and not entertaining"
Well, what we have right now is simply the very core of the game made functional by devs - they didn't have time yet to add all the cool flavor stuff. You have to build the dull, grey walls, roofs and foundation first before you can start decorating and filling in the house. If you want to know about more cool stuff that is planned, I recommend joining their discord server and asking there.
@@volodymyr_budii Thx man.I will buy this game any way , becaues I love there passion.I hope this game in the future will be mindblowing and awesome
It looks interesting, but I rather play something with SC2 or WoW3 vibe. Something like Gates of Pyre for example.
The problem I have with large-scale RTS games is that it just seems unrealistic when multiple large armies battle each other. No one would do something like that in real life, and such large-scale battlefields, in my opinion, should at least have some semblance of reality, but in my opinion, they don't. Group A throws its units at group B and constantly builds more cannon fodder. Unfortunately, that's about all I can think of, even though it looks very interesting.
And in real life we don't have technology to make a tank on site in 20 seconds, and no human player is gonna be able to spread those forces all across the frontline evenly without AI( which in my opinion is game playing itself instead of player) so what is the point exactly?
If we had the technology and capability to produce so many machines at site, such "cannon fodder" battles would be exactly what we would use. Remember - those units are achines that cost somewhat nothing, and after battle you could recycle the wrecks to get your resources back. Why wouldn't you crush your try to crush your enemy with numbers if you have many more than he does in combination with strategy?
The game is set on a Dyson sphere that has tons of empty space in between structures that actually matter in the war - it makes absolute sense to focus all the forces around that single small point of interest.
Yea, but can you zoom the camera in and play as one of the troops? No? Ha mount and blade banner lord 2 is better, dislike and unsubscribe.
Why should he play completely zoomed in? And what are your problems with that
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@@LTGamingTH-cam just a joke btw.
Looks pretty crap to me. Far too much going on at once. Far too many units in play at the same time. I will pass.
It isn’t crap and that’s the whole point of the game stupid. Have you ever played Supreme Commander before?