It's just sort of something that happens with needle valves. The majority of adjustment happens immediately. They could probably put an overtravel stop in there after a couple turns.
Wow - lots of haters??? I see that it's not available anywhere now, looks like it was a bit pricey when it was available. Looks like a nice setup - thanks for sharing your experience with it. Hopefully it will become available sometime soon. Hopefully the price will be affordable. Thanks for all the work you put into your videos - it is appreciated!
One more thing worth mentioning is that ALL Snow Peak products come with a Lifetime Warranty. Everything this company produces is of the highest quality and the prices reflect that. You get what you pay for with Snow Peak.
Loved the review...excellent as always. Thanks, Ernie. One very big plus about this design is that the fuel is now remote, away from the heat. An added low profile windscreen could easily be made to attach to the pot stand wings' outer edge. If one were to assess his use and trim the wings to just over the size of the largest pot he would use, it would lose fractional weight and make the wind screen requirement smaller. Of course, gram weenies need not concern themselves with this. For preparedness and/or car camping, this is a winner! This well made stove has a price tag. One has to want it............
Ernie,,,, I Completely Agree,, from Sharpening Stones,,Cookware, to the Soto Windmaster., I all in for the Quality Products from Japan 🇯🇵 But What about having the,,,,, “Battle of the White Gas Stoves” You said you would,,,,!!!! Joshua
Seems like a longer set of legs is all that would be needed to run this with the big 450g fuel canisters. Maybe I will try to make some -- aluminium or carbon tubes are fairly cheap.
The last time I was first to comment, the FBI actually went after real terrorists and criminals. Anyway, Snowpeak, being a real quality builder, sometimes lacks design expertise. Their stoves always lack any built in wind protection. They will sell you one that attaches to some stoves, but is only partly effective and acts as a wide heat sink that extends boil time appreciably. The bipod design makes it very stable and functions well. Seems more like a group camp cooking thing using larger pots as the burner spreads the flame widely. Thanks for another great review, doc.
Just bought one in the USA, as Snow Peak can't import them into the UK/Europe? at present until they have been "gas tested". Stability and that they can take a big pot is a big plus for me. Big meals or melt snow. Solo stoves are two a penny (I use an Optimus folding Crux or a Jetboil), and sure there are other less expensive bigger stove options. But these just look cool and perfect for a kettle. If anyone wanted to use the extra large gas canisters then just dig it in so level, or put the legs on something. Same goes for wind management, just use some nous, have brain use it. Medium/large gas canisters are plenty most of the time anyhow. As for the price then thats subjective. Buy once, cry once, then enjoy. Getting out in the woods is my leisure time, even when working, so what price that? Good review, thanks.
In Japan, this what people use to cook. It's probably very stable. Snow peak in general is expensive. You can use a wind screen unlike most canister stoves.
My first thought was that with with the larger canister, the stove sits very high off the ground. I'm thinking a windshield would be pretty big and heavy
Have you ever heard of the picogrill models that are on the market 🤔⁉. I'd love to see you review one. They're a Swiss line of outdoor grills/stoves 🔥🏕⛺🍽🍗🍔🍞.
I have the 85- the 398 and the 760. They’re fantastic! I started with the 85 and was so impressed by the weight, portability and mostly the efficiency that got the 398 which is not a hobo, great to cook and as a small fire pit, loved it too and decided to purchase the 760 as well to use as a fire pit because it fits several regular size logs and left the 398 mainly for BBQ and grilling. I’ve used them in a 2-1/2 weeks camping and they performed flawlessly. The only thing I noticed was that when using the 85 with a Trangia, the alcohol stove should be a little higher to perform better, but you can fix that by adding a couple of metal tent stakes (the cheap thin round ones), threaded through the holes adding height to the alcohol stove. Of course I’m not Dr. Ernie who makes great demonstrations but hope this helps. Yes, it’d be great if he was to make a video of them.
This has the characteristics of a base camp stove, in which case it should handle the 450g cartridges which are best value in cost per gram of gas. As such it's hard to see were it fits.
I have a similar stove that works with the tall PROPANE bottles. Also works with the Green Colman bottles. The bottles on an ANGLE is the 3rd leg. I have not found another one after a very exhaustive search. Anyone seen any out there??
@@siqizhang Thanks for the responce. I hope to find it this year. If it ever warms up. -11f this morning with a high of +5f tomorrow. To cold for the shed hunt.
Not truly a bipod. The canister makes it a tripod. Another heavy, fiddly stove, probably very well made, as SnowPeak products tend to be. The pluses are that a low, efficient windscreen could be easily made, which wouldn't prevent access to the control valve, and, of course, the stability. Thanks, Ernie! Oh, my first so-called "backpacking stove" was a Primus Grasshopper that used 16 oz propane canisters, with the canister being the third leg. It was very tall and heavy 😁 - circa 1975.
At £151 ($205) this stove is ridiculously expensive and only a fool with too much money would buy one. It is possible to get a perfectly good tripod stove (with which you can use ANY size of canister) for a tenth of the price and it will be absolutely every bit as good quality as this stove. But then, as the old saying goes: A fool and his money are soon parted.
Not bad, if you're used to open, flat ground. I invariably end up balancing my stove on top of a rock, not to end up in the middle of small bushes or something. So not for me, sadly.
@@rockyreynolds4027 Because it'll be kind of hard to get fuel refills for them once a collapse occurs, don't ya think ⁉. There's not gonna be any trucks 🚛🚚⛟delivering any supplies, or anything in a grid down situation, just think about it 😐.
@@gringo3009 LOL 😂. I guess you think your "logic" [but really a lack thereof] really makes sense don't you LOL 😐⁉. It doesn't matter if he isn't. A grid down situation could still occur now can't it 😐⁉.
Stoves are like tools; we can never own too many. Fine review.
If the U.S.S. Enterprise and Pocket Rocket had a love child, this would be it.
Yeah, I spotted that too. 😊
It's clearly Klingon!
I find your comment funny ☺️
I thought that too!
Highly logical@@johannesalexandrius5749
I’ve had this stove for 3+ years and have used it heavily. It has stood up well and I’d highly recommend.
Just bought one today. Very excited to use it on a trip.
I have one I keep in the jeep...I really like it..
I wonder if "all that play" in the burner control would become more useful when comparing between a near full and a near empty cannisters?
It's just sort of something that happens with needle valves. The majority of adjustment happens immediately. They could probably put an overtravel stop in there after a couple turns.
Very nice. Thanks for showing us. Take care.
Wow - lots of haters??? I see that it's not available anywhere now, looks like it was a bit pricey when it was available. Looks like a nice setup - thanks for sharing your experience with it. Hopefully it will become available sometime soon. Hopefully the price will be affordable. Thanks for all the work you put into your videos - it is appreciated!
Cool stove. I always see new stuff on your channel first.
I’m a fan of wood stoves but this is cool!
At first sight, I like the obvious stability of the stove and the multi pot size supports.
Great review. Mine is made in Korea.
One more thing worth mentioning is that ALL Snow Peak products come with a Lifetime Warranty. Everything this company produces is of the highest quality and the prices reflect that. You get what you pay for with Snow Peak.
Cool stove; probably very stabilized on uneven ground. Good video....Thanks Doc.
I see great stability, best if you cook with lager pots or fry pans.
How much does this stuff cost you did not mention that
Loved the review...excellent as always. Thanks, Ernie. One very big plus about this design is that the fuel is now remote, away from the heat. An added low profile windscreen could easily be made to attach to the pot stand wings' outer edge. If one were to assess his use and trim the wings to just over the size of the largest pot he would use, it would lose fractional weight and make the wind screen requirement smaller. Of course, gram weenies need not concern themselves with this. For preparedness and/or car camping, this is a winner! This well made stove has a price tag. One has to want it............
Ernie,,,, I Completely Agree,, from Sharpening Stones,,Cookware, to the Soto Windmaster., I all in for the Quality Products from Japan 🇯🇵
But What about having the,,,,, “Battle of the White Gas Stoves”
You said you would,,,,!!!! Joshua
Seems like a longer set of legs is all that would be needed to run this with the big 450g fuel canisters. Maybe I will try to make some -- aluminium or carbon tubes are fairly cheap.
Not available on Amazon and not expected back as of 10 October 2021.
The adjustable legs for stability in uneven terrain are a plus. Using it in the field would make a great video (not necessarily by Mr. Paleo).
Great review, any chance you will review the Primus Gravity 3 stove?
The last time I was first to comment, the FBI actually went after real terrorists and criminals.
Anyway, Snowpeak, being a real quality builder, sometimes lacks design expertise.
Their stoves always lack any built in wind protection. They will sell you one that attaches to some stoves, but is only partly effective and acts as a wide heat sink that extends boil time appreciably.
The bipod design makes it very stable and functions well. Seems more like a group camp cooking thing using larger pots as the burner spreads the flame widely.
Thanks for another great review, doc.
I do like the Snow Peak designs. Recently got their foldable firepit. Pricy, but great design and quality!
Great stove, I bet it never shows up in Australia, if it does I will buy it.
Just bought one in the USA, as Snow Peak can't import them into the UK/Europe? at present until they have been "gas tested".
Stability and that they can take a big pot is a big plus for me. Big meals or melt snow. Solo stoves are two a penny (I use an Optimus folding Crux or a Jetboil), and sure there are other less expensive bigger stove options. But these just look cool and perfect for a kettle.
If anyone wanted to use the extra large gas canisters then just dig it in so level, or put the legs on something. Same goes for wind management, just use some nous, have brain use it. Medium/large gas canisters are plenty most of the time anyhow.
As for the price then thats subjective. Buy once, cry once, then enjoy. Getting out in the woods is my leisure time, even when working, so what price that?
Good review, thanks.
In Japan, this what people use to cook. It's probably very stable. Snow peak in general is expensive. You can use a wind screen unlike most canister stoves.
You mentioned that this would work better with a windscreen. Could you do a video on windscreen comparisons?
Where can one purchase this stove?
When I wanted to get it was at rei. But waited now not available.
Cannot find it anywhere.
Unavailable on Amazon
Great review as always, but dude you should do a review of the Soto Stormbreaker. It's so good!
My first thought was that with with the larger canister, the stove sits very high off the ground. I'm thinking a windshield would be pretty big and heavy
Have you ever heard of the picogrill models that are on the market 🤔⁉. I'd love to see you review one.
They're a Swiss line of outdoor grills/stoves 🔥🏕⛺🍽🍗🍔🍞.
I have the 85- the 398 and the 760. They’re fantastic! I started with the 85 and was so impressed by the weight, portability and mostly the efficiency that got the 398 which is not a hobo, great to cook and as a small fire pit, loved it too and decided to purchase the 760 as well to use as a fire pit because it fits several regular size logs and left the 398 mainly for BBQ and grilling. I’ve used them in a 2-1/2 weeks camping and they performed flawlessly. The only thing I noticed was that when using the 85 with a Trangia, the alcohol stove should be a little higher to perform better, but you can fix that by adding a couple of metal tent stakes (the cheap thin round ones), threaded through the holes adding height to the alcohol stove. Of course I’m not Dr. Ernie who makes great demonstrations but hope this helps. Yes, it’d be great if he was to make a video of them.
@@carmenmartinez2882 I have the seven sixty model 😎👍.
@@hostilemgtow603 how do you like it, I love mine.
@@carmenmartinez2882 I haven't taken it out to use it yet, but when I do, I'm sure it'll perform well 😎👍.
This has the characteristics of a base camp stove, in which case it should handle the 450g cartridges which are best value in cost per gram of gas. As such it's hard to see were it fits.
I have a similar stove that works with the tall PROPANE bottles. Also works with the Green Colman bottles. The bottles on an ANGLE is the 3rd leg. I have not found another one after a very exhaustive search. Anyone seen any out there??
It's a Coleman. I have it but I forgot it's name
@@siqizhang Thanks for the responce. I hope to find it this year. If it ever warms up. -11f this morning with a high of +5f tomorrow. To cold for the shed hunt.
Not for $105 I will stick with the the Soto WindMaster for 40% less.
Om not sure i want a stove where one of the legs is the actuall gas pipe.
Great vid but the flame control would be a deal breaker for me. Too bad since it did grab my attention.
Not truly a bipod. The canister makes it a tripod. Another heavy, fiddly stove, probably very well made, as SnowPeak products tend to be. The pluses are that a low, efficient windscreen could be easily made, which wouldn't prevent access to the control valve, and, of course, the stability.
Thanks, Ernie!
Oh, my first so-called "backpacking stove" was a Primus Grasshopper that used 16 oz propane canisters, with the canister being the third leg. It was very tall and heavy 😁 - circa 1975.
A rifle has a “bipod” but the stock rests on the ground
Stock replaced by fuel canister? 😉
I've heard these break easily, right at the vent holes
🤪🔥💥💀
Would of been a more realistic test on uneven ground to test stability and adaptability.
Too bad they are no longer available from the manufacturer, there's a couple on eBay from risky sellers for $50-75 more than they were new.
At £151 ($205) this stove is ridiculously expensive and only a fool with too much money would buy one. It is possible to get a perfectly good tripod stove (with which you can use ANY size of canister) for a tenth of the price and it will be absolutely every bit as good quality as this stove. But then, as the old saying goes: A fool and his money are soon parted.
I hear you.👍🏻
Surprise. Surprise. Currently unavailable.
You sold them out again
I think the stove looks really good. But really? You did not mention the price. It’s definitely a con.
Not bad, if you're used to open, flat ground. I invariably end up balancing my stove on top of a rock, not to end up in the middle of small bushes or something. So not for me, sadly.
It's crap
Why?
In a total grid down situation, stoves like this will be automatically rendered useless. No thanks 👎.
Why
He's not reviewing it as a grid down stove now is he.
@@rockyreynolds4027 Because it'll be kind of hard to get fuel refills for them once a collapse occurs, don't ya think ⁉.
There's not gonna be any trucks 🚛🚚⛟delivering any supplies, or anything in a grid down situation, just think about it 😐.
@@gringo3009 LOL 😂. I guess you think your "logic" [but really a lack thereof] really makes sense don't you LOL 😐⁉.
It doesn't matter if he isn't. A grid down situation could still occur now can't it 😐⁉.
@@hostilemgtow603, how ever will you survive 😲 in a grid down situation without access to your emojis ⁉️🤔