Becoming a Software Testing Expert
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- Google TechTalks
June 13, 2006
James Bach
I work with project teams and individual engineers to help them plan SQA, change control, and testing processes that allow them to understand and control the risks of product failure. Most of my experience is with market-driven Silicon Valley software companies like Apple Computer and Borland, so the techniques I've gathered and developed are designed for use under conditions of compressed schedules, high rates of change, component-based technology, and poor specification. ABSTRACT
You're already an experienced tester. You know how to design tests and report bugs. Now what? Do you feel like an expert? Unfortunately, if you want to become very good at...
Testing seems like swimming...James has shown us some hints how he learnt....he can't swim for us....if we don't realize the tricks ourselves , we never swim :) I appreciate James for his contribution to the "art of testing" , which i guess can be the only thing common between all of us :)
A vivid, flexible mind is the best a tester can have. :)
James Bach I can relate to everything you are saying. My brain just never stops asking a million questions about everything. When I was writing programs in college, my favorite part was to do the pseudocode for possible errors. I LOVE pseudocode and manipulating it into various scenarios. I had to try to obviously figure out what the user might do to cause an error, and then create the solution to that error. I loved that type of creative thinking, but being a woman in our society has not helped at all. My constant questions in life relative to learning how to understand many topics, and analyze just about everything, only seems to only push people away from me.
I clicked on this link because I would love to be a software tester and have looked into it a few times. I have the technical background that helps when understanding what the user will push/tap whatever on whatever device when they want to do something. I love when users complain about anything, because it gives my brain data of a problem so that I can work on a solution. Maybe I don't know the solution, but I love the journey of working on the solution to problems. I also have always been an analyzer of human behaviors with many "why" questions to them in my brain. Why is the most important word on the planet as far as I'm concerned.
Amazing video!
Fun observation: James Open Lecture is right next to "ISTQB Certification" in the "related videos" list...
Inspiring - valuable input - full of realism and authentic problem solving ideas.
Pure genius. Huge inspiration. Bach's a testing pioneer.
Nice talk and the voice is loud and clear
Dude is basically letting you know that you make your world by doing the work. You can become a software tester by doing it and not talking about it; by reading books and applying the knowledge; by thinking through processes and documenting the results. What you can dream, you can achieve but you must do the work.
thanks for the summary
Great talk! Very exciting to watch!
For those who complain about the talk, it appears to me you came with a full glass of knowledge or could not differentiate the message from the messenger. There is a lot to unpack here. Spending time to unpack it and then beginning to modify your practice accordingly will help you immensely in your testing. Even if you don't prescribe to context sensitive testing he is providing guidance that will help.
Brody B I'm absolutely delighted about this knowledge. To blaze the trail of a subject matter expert in an unseen field... I think is very inspiring. I've tested programs, software, and UIs, but on a volunteer level. Never knew it was something to actively be paid for doing. #womeninSTEM #momscancode 🤓 #lovejonezin
It is indeed a career, a profession, but also a calling. James is one of those people who sees failure in the nuance -- a skill that is rare enough in the industry that it needs to be trained. I personally work in healthcare System of Systems realm testing a healthcare infrastructure across very large solutions that wish to interact -- never designed to do so in the first place.
If I were to give some advice I would say that you take basic programming/database courses -- even if you don't program. That you take UX design courses. And, that you take some basic security training.
With this knowledge you will be far to the left on a Dunning-Kruger curve but find a good tester and lock onto their coattails.
If you work for a company then volunteer for their next IT upgrade project to get a feel for the craft.
Be truthful, be as technically complete as you can be, have no fear, and develop thick skin.
Good luck.
Brody B Perhaps his heavy egocentrism is the problem
Useful video if you study what and how James went from nobody to respected expert.
awesome video ! new perspectives should be welcomed
Well, more informative... I like talks of both. James tends to focus more on theoretical principles, trying to teach people to question everything, while Misko shows the technical aspects of testing with a lot of code... Wouldn't dare to say one is more of an expert than the other, would you?
I have patiently listened for half hour, I found all this guy talked about is actually nothing! For those who said you enjoyed, ask yourself, what have you learned from this talk?
Jinqiang Zhang I completely agree with you! I was just about to vote "dislike" for this video when I found out that this guy is a co-author of "Lessons Learned in Software Testing" - the best book on software testing I ever read in my life.
Very helpful video, thank you!
A good review as I'm asked to write a nice consise teaching guide
Thanks, i like yours class
So inspiring 2021
For those who conplain about the lecture: 1) it is free on youtube; 2) you didn't get the point.
Great talk :)
man this guy is brilliant ! His so funny to!
who are all these people commenting on what a great talk this is? this is not a great talk. he might be an expert tester but he's not a presentation expert. bla bla bla
He is also annoying with all the shouts
nice!
Yeah yeah, you're the best praiser ^^
He's arguably arrogant but he definitely understand "software testing" not just as a technical tool but as a way of thinking.
I think he's a great but often misunderstood guy. :)
I am 25 minutes and my headache increases. When will he lower his voice?
Ted van es turn down your volume :-)
lower the volume on your pc
Thank god Misko Hevery is now conducting these software testing talks at Google.
He's more informative and humble than this so called "expert" :)
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James Bach, he has the same initials, and sounds like, Jack Black :)
Think the title should be "how to make people believe you are an expert". I liked the advice though.
I think the purpose of the video (how to think and promote yourself to others as an expert tester) could have been said and explained in about 20 minutes, but Bach takes a good 30 minutes throughout the video to boast of accomplishments or meander into something that really adds nothing of value. Why do you take the time to talk about how you dropped out of high school or that you failed Physics? What are you trying to prove here?
Can the presentation deliver the key points instead of emphasizing and convincing that himself is a software testing expert.
Too egocentric for my taste.
The guy is nut... But the talk is nice!
Seems like 80% of the lecture is self-promotion.
i think that is the worst google talk i have seen thus far.... i feel that James is a genius that just wings it because that talk had very little content what so ever
The guy always talk about himself "I" and "I" ....
after 14 min I now think that testers are crazy and should stop meth,,, pff..
He is just repeating basic concepts of software testing while bragging about himself. I'm sure he could be a good beer tester though.
Blah Blah Blah.. A lot of talk about nothing... as a tester I didn't get anything valuable..
Funny
wow, waited patiently to see if he will deliver something of any significant importance. Unfortunately...NONE. Keep edifying himself, crap!!!
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Wow! Nice display of racism.
Nothing...the presentation is about: "ah...well...ha-ha" and nothing useful. NOTHING.
Worthless speech
nice!