Just started to get more interested in "official" software testing when I found this video..wow. What an educated slap in the face that was! Big thanks to him, I'll be a better tester now!
Never before this lecture I have been more convinced that academic success has a lot to do with the teacher. James Bach has the ability to make a TESTING SOFTWARE lecture than is 90 minutes long an incredibly interesting and engaging activity. Only if every teacher had an ability like that - the subject doesn't matter. It's the lecturer that makes it boring or interesting and engages his students!
I got into testing world around 5 months ago. I must admit that before i was too snob with testing because i was only "coding coding coding" and "who needs a tester" but after i searched and studied about it and worked on it i started loving testing and enjoying it so so much that I'm thinking to follow this path. I must also say that this lecture was really inspiring and motivating. It's not about the subject that is boring but about the teacher who makes the lecture boring and this guy right there is definitely not one of them. Great lecture!
Amazing content, James Bach is an absolute joy to listen to. He is able to engage so well with the audience and is always trying to be as most practical as possible.
Sharing my favorites part / notes. 0h29 Musashi Five Rings book - Tester use and master any tool or method needed, as fast learner 0h46: Calculator Test - Diagnostic Exercise 1h04: What is testing - Ultimate Detective Work Diagram 1h09: 4 Loops - Collaboration > Testing > Self Management > Learning 1h19: Why not Automate the Testing : Checking to support Testing 1h23: Analogy Testing with investigate for bugs in Kitchen 1h27: Bucaneer-Tester
He is a very good lecturer, I just wished my lecturers and my old uni was like that. He just keep you engaged all the time, I like hes lecturing style a lot!!
A man sharing his knowledge and who is passionate about what he does 😀. No interest in testing but I admire someone who pursues their passion and influences those around them.
I love this so much. Never have I ever related to something so much. It is a conquest indeed sir! They get butt hurt when I test their software but damnit do you want me to test it or not? I swear you explained exactly how I think and perceive things as a tester and no one else gets it...finally! Excellent talk, thank you! You should write another book!
tough crowd. Great talk! You really inspired me to get into this field.. I know some programming but never really liked to develop so I never really got into working at it. But what you said here really hits home for me so testing here I come!
Ah luckily James Bach has arrived and we got a revolution in testing. I hate people like this that are full of themselves and the IT industry is full of them.
Love his part about "unwritten requirements," as I see tons of testers really mess this concept up. With his example of a medical device stated to work at a certain voltage, there is an unwritten requirement of "quality" that is implied that it shouldn't blow up if it goes outside the voltage. We don't just blindly test requirements; requirements give us a guideline, but we need to really expand.and read BEYOND the lines to achieve a "quality" product.
Much better lecture than that other one. If the arrogance and irrelevant self-promotion is removed from this one, then it's pretty accurate for a partial look into software testing. And he's giving away some of my best "tricks".
I never got the impression that he was talking about anything but fuzz testing. When he talks about automated test tools I felt he was purely speaking from the context of fuzz testing, not unit testing and TDD. This is more integration and QA testing focused. Although I think he is also speaking from years of experience that probably started before TDD was as common. Even then TDD does not ensure bug free software.
You're wrong about one thing... Mahatma Gandhi Software Testing: About 271,000 results (0.31 seconds) Julius Caesar Software Testing: About 202,000 results (0.33 seconds) James Bach Software Testing: About 177,000 results (0.39 seconds)
I am James Bach! I don't do anything except relentlessly promote myself and instantly dismiss anything that varies even minutely from my own narrow worldview! And incidentally have I mentioned that I am a high school dropout enough times?
Answer to question at 49:00 1. Check your hands and see the ground to make sure the calculator is really dropped on the ground and no longer in your hands. 2. I would first do 2+2 to check if it is working. 3. The rest would be just the functionality-limit testing.
I would pick the calculator up and turn it on. If it came to life I would do a quick 9 x 9 and see if it gave me 81 and then I would flex its case to see if the cct board was cracked and test it again with 22/7.
Great lecture! Everything this man says about testing is true! I took the ISTQB foundation a couple months ago and it is utter nonsense, the lower score you receive, the smarter you probably are as a person, it will not allow you to think outside the box and become a better tester on the job.
You're proposing this case, but you "forgot" to mention that the input is in fact extremely limited. So, you're asking what can all the possible errors would be, but you've excluded 90% of them already .. but didn't need to mention that. For example, the language it would be written in. Forgot to mention that. But, a lot depends on that. All "wrong" answers, should not be handled like a valid "wrong" answer. Which in this case probably is any number between 0 and 70. So, to report wrong answers, you need at least one more outcome. Otherwise, you're leaving the end-user in the blind, no ?
this is beautiful. i just got my first job as a QA tester and i learned sooo much. I'd love to know the name of the course or where to find my material like this. if you know, kindly comment ;)
Possibly the most valuable piece of information I took away from this is that it is physically infeasible for giant cockroaches to exist in our current environment. Now my mind is once again at ease.
Awesome! My father used to be in charge of writing the software for all the store tills in WHSmith in the UK. When a developer came to him with a new release, he would load it up and them mash as many keys as possible at the same time. When it crashed he gave it back. The dev would look at him puzzled. It turns out that female checkout operators would lean over the till to scan products in a basket with a barcode wand (before scanners) and inadvertently mash the keys with their breasts which crashed the till. No joke this is true!
A lot of things learned in school, are useless in professional environment, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be learned. In fact, schools are there to put a layer. And then there's guy like you, that add something. So, play your role.
Great lecture! :D Can anyone tell me the communities I can join to build an international testing reputation? Im trying to determine what kind of blog articles are published by testers with a reputation. What information do they publish? Hope that anyone can help me out.
What if A is not given (enter ?), negative, zero, less than 70, 70, more than 70, a very large positive number, a very large negative number, a comma number, a word, different words, a special character (either dot or comma), and maybe more.
828kelvin the context menu has a option ... go to my pictures... via this the full screen mode was escaped... kiosk was probably unencrypted so access to command prompt would allow any one to execute any malicious code that can further destroy their system.
Studing testing atm, Im not going to be a tester we just learn to understand it. As a software developer, the more I learn about this the more I fear you guys :S. Ctrl + AC VV AC VV AC VV . Just a simple weapon and god I fear it :S
He spends a lot of time talking but not actually saying anything ... its refreshing but a lot of it is not what a company will expect of you. That's my 17 years of testing experience talking.
Just started to get more interested in "official" software testing when I found this video..wow. What an educated slap in the face that was! Big thanks to him, I'll be a better tester now!
This is still one of the best videos you can find regarding Software Testing!
This guy has contents of a tutorial with a mix of standup comedy and pinch of Ted Talks and its a perfect MASTERCLASS.
Never before this lecture I have been more convinced that academic success has a lot to do with the teacher. James Bach has the ability to make a TESTING SOFTWARE lecture than is 90 minutes long an incredibly interesting and engaging activity. Only if every teacher had an ability like that - the subject doesn't matter. It's the lecturer that makes it boring or interesting and engages his students!
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having exactly the same feelings
Because he is implementing a few techniques that media uses th-cam.com/video/h6bIhubBA_k/w-d-xo.html
I got into testing world around 5 months ago. I must admit that before i was too snob with testing because i was only "coding coding coding" and "who needs a tester" but after i searched and studied about it and worked on it i started loving testing and enjoying it so so much that I'm thinking to follow this path. I must also say that this lecture was really inspiring and motivating. It's not about the subject that is boring but about the teacher who makes the lecture boring and this guy right there is definitely not one of them. Great lecture!
And to think I only listen to hime because I was to busy working
This man convinced me of his greatness...
Education needs people like this who are inspiring and proud of what they do.
Amazing content, James Bach is an absolute joy to listen to.
He is able to engage so well with the audience and is always trying to be as most practical as possible.
It is 2023 and this is still a great lecture!!!
Sharing my favorites part / notes.
0h29 Musashi Five Rings book - Tester use and master any tool or method needed, as fast learner
0h46: Calculator Test - Diagnostic Exercise
1h04: What is testing - Ultimate Detective Work Diagram
1h09: 4 Loops - Collaboration > Testing > Self Management > Learning
1h19: Why not Automate the Testing : Checking to support Testing
1h23: Analogy Testing with investigate for bugs in Kitchen
1h27: Bucaneer-Tester
The meeting is in Estonia. They dont laugh much, it is normal for Scandinavian nations. But dude was funny!
Estonia is not Scandinavian
@@jennasloan396 I laughed lots :-)
@@jennasloan396 pppp
Inspiring! Clever! Motivating to become a great tester! Thank you James!
I have respect for Mr. Bachs ability to form very accurate metaphors.
One of the best talks I ever saw. Both entertaining and insightful. A true master! Teach me Sensei! :D
Great speaker!!! Great Person! Winderful material!!!
He is a very good lecturer, I just wished my lecturers and my old uni was like that. He just keep you engaged all the time, I like hes lecturing style a lot!!
best video yet I've seen by him
This guy is hillarious. He is like software testing standup comedian! LoL
hahahahahahahah so true :D
A man sharing his knowledge and who is passionate about what he does 😀. No interest in testing but I admire someone who pursues their passion and influences those around them.
This was awesome! This guy is an incredible speaker. I'll have to watch more of his work.
This is highly correct and one of the better vidoes on software testing. Thumbs Up!
every tester should watch this once :) awesome :)
I enjoyed this lecture with all of my heart! So skillful!
Inspired me to keep forward and to become a good tester! Thank you!
I love lectures like that.
P.S When I'm drunk I speak the same way)
haha man u r too funny
That. Was. AMAZING!!!!
Thank you for sharing this!!!
The best advice about testing I've heard so far.
I love this so much. Never have I ever related to something so much. It is a conquest indeed sir! They get butt hurt when I test their software but damnit do you want me to test it or not? I swear you explained exactly how I think and perceive things as a tester and no one else gets it...finally! Excellent talk, thank you! You should write another book!
OMG!!!!!! My favorite QA video!!!! I absolutely love this dude!
tough crowd. Great talk! You really inspired me to get into this field.. I know some programming but never really liked to develop so I never really got into working at it. But what you said here really hits home for me so testing here I come!
+PIneapple29 the fact that he just told them the classes they are taking are useless probably has something to do with it
Excellent lecture few good points made and will use it.
Actually, I regret my previous comment - this is the second video with J. Bach that I've watched and the man really knows a lot about testing.
This video makes me feel proud of being a tester!! ya'y
If this isn't the most educational speech on software testing ever, I don't know what is
Ah luckily James Bach has arrived and we got a revolution in testing. I hate people like this that are full of themselves and the IT industry is full of them.
This video really cleared up my thought process of quality testing
Love his part about "unwritten requirements," as I see tons of testers really mess this concept up. With his example of a medical device stated to work at a certain voltage, there is an unwritten requirement of "quality" that is implied that it shouldn't blow up if it goes outside the voltage. We don't just blindly test requirements; requirements give us a guideline, but we need to really expand.and read BEYOND the lines to achieve a "quality" product.
this should be the first video that shows up when you search software QA
Thank you for your work!
wonderful lecture on different aspects of software testing
Entertaining and fascinating. Thanks for sharing!
So GREAT lecture! Thank you so much for this! Great speech
Much better lecture than that other one. If the arrogance and irrelevant self-promotion is removed from this one, then it's pretty accurate for a partial look into software testing. And he's giving away some of my best "tricks".
I never got the impression that he was talking about anything but fuzz testing. When he talks about automated test tools I felt he was purely speaking from the context of fuzz testing, not unit testing and TDD. This is more integration and QA testing focused. Although I think he is also speaking from years of experience that probably started before TDD was as common. Even then TDD does not ensure bug free software.
You're wrong about one thing...
Mahatma Gandhi Software Testing: About 271,000 results (0.31 seconds)
Julius Caesar Software Testing: About 202,000 results (0.33 seconds)
James Bach Software Testing: About 177,000 results (0.39 seconds)
I got different results
James Bach Software Testing 196 000 (0,54 s)
Mahatma Gandhi Software Testing 162 000 (0,43 s)
Julius Caesar Software Testing 74 800 (0,53 s)
I am James Bach! I don't do anything except relentlessly promote myself and instantly dismiss anything that varies even minutely from my own narrow worldview! And incidentally have I mentioned that I am a high school dropout enough times?
Answer to question at 49:00
1. Check your hands and see the ground to make sure the calculator is really dropped on the ground and no longer in your hands.
2. I would first do 2+2 to check if it is working.
3. The rest would be just the functionality-limit testing.
Superb presentation on incompetence and sloppines of academia
Testing runs through your veins. Test Bach !
I would pick the calculator up and turn it on. If it came to life I would do a quick 9 x 9 and see if it gave me 81 and then I would flex its case to see if the cct board was cracked and test it again with 22/7.
Great lecture! Everything this man says about testing is true! I took the ISTQB foundation a couple months ago and it is utter nonsense, the lower score you receive, the smarter you probably are as a person, it will not allow you to think outside the box and become a better tester on the job.
I was there :) Great guy, really liked his lecture
Просто превосходно ! Очень интересно рассказывает !
I love this guy.
Thank you so much! This is AMAZING!!!
It's a good lecture, but why he didn't give any useful pieces of advice for QA engineers?
Its free and its informative ... good for inspiring
You're proposing this case, but you "forgot" to mention that the input is in fact extremely limited. So, you're asking what can all the possible errors would be, but you've excluded 90% of them already .. but didn't need to mention that. For example, the language it would be written in. Forgot to mention that. But, a lot depends on that. All "wrong" answers, should not be handled like a valid "wrong" answer. Which in this case probably is any number between 0 and 70. So, to report wrong answers, you need at least one more outcome. Otherwise, you're leaving the end-user in the blind, no ?
I've just learned a lot now. Great lecture.
this is beautiful. i just got my first job as a QA tester and i learned sooo much. I'd love to know the name of the course or where to find my material like this. if you know, kindly comment ;)
so hows things on the job?
"They dont love you, like i love you" xDDD lol
Good lecture - solid principles. But nothing wrong with ISTQB. Good for testers to see both sides of the coin.
so true. I always call it ying AND yang
Possibly the most valuable piece of information I took away from this is that it is physically infeasible for giant cockroaches to exist in our current environment. Now my mind is once again at ease.
a good lecturer that isn't boring :)
Quote: "Bigggg Tester, smashing cupcakes"
It's tough to operate at this energy level. How do you avoid burnout & not go communication free for a week after holding such a high energy lecture
one of the best lectures
2 unicorns to the power of pi
Equals an infinite amount of unicorns
I'm a tester right now, i really don't wanna end up like this
#nooffense
+CerealKiller Too right. Real testers don't have beards.
I wish I was there LOL. Two test cases are you crazy.
que buen video. Lo vi hasta el final y sin entender al 100% el ingles, imaginense que yo, ni en español leo algo hasta el final.
Thank you James
Awesome! My father used to be in charge of writing the software for all the store tills in WHSmith in the UK. When a developer came to him with a new release, he would load it up and them mash as many keys as possible at the same time. When it crashed he gave it back. The dev would look at him puzzled. It turns out that female checkout operators would lean over the till to scan products in a basket with a barcode wand (before scanners) and inadvertently mash the keys with their breasts which crashed the till. No joke this is true!
Interesting things about testing. A must!
Fun software testing tips. Thanks!
only perfect man would be grateful if he will point out errors =)
Dude, this guy is AWESOME!
A lot of things learned in school, are useless in professional environment, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be learned. In fact, schools are there to put a layer. And then there's guy like you, that add something. So, play your role.
it is so hard to listen him at the first half. the second part is brilliant.
Great lecture! :D Can anyone tell me the communities I can join to build an international testing reputation?
Im trying to determine what kind of blog articles are published by testers with a reputation.
What information do they publish?
Hope that anyone can help me out.
Hey. I'm working on some material that you may find helpful. Let me know if interested.
ministry of testing community
This professor is a great !!!
How can you not like what James is saying about testing???
Seems like he didn't exactly fill up the lecture hall.
what a powerful speaker
Was the calculator working before you dropped it? How far did it drop? What did it drop on?
Incredible video.. thank you.
Solid Gold!
What if A is not given (enter ?), negative, zero, less than 70, 70, more than 70, a very large positive number, a very large negative number, a comma number, a word, different words, a special character (either dot or comma), and maybe more.
39:06 sorry I still don't really understand how has he broke into the system, any could explain on this?
828kelvin the context menu has a option ... go to my pictures... via this the full screen mode was escaped... kiosk was probably unencrypted so access to command prompt would allow any one to execute any malicious code that can further destroy their system.
easy and brilliant
and I want share this not typical article itechcraft.com/testing/ for people who not understand why testing is so important
Лена О Thanks. This is an interesting point of view.
Actually starts at 6:15
I love lecturers who cut through the nonsense of academia.
Nazareht
Sunsihen
Where are the blog links at? Fine... I will google you...
Thanks for that kick,,,,,reminder on testing.
Great video for the testers
He is slightly obnoxious at times but i still enjoyed this lecture, thank you.
Studing testing atm, Im not going to be a tester we just learn to understand it. As a software developer, the more I learn about this the more I fear you guys :S. Ctrl + AC VV AC VV AC VV . Just a simple weapon and god I fear it :S
Thank You
I learned something new today
A blog post about my notes and conclusions of the lecture @ the blog: sqroot.eu
This was great, thanks!
He spends a lot of time talking but not actually saying anything ... its refreshing but a lot of it is not what a company will expect of you. That's my 17 years of testing experience talking.