Xrd’s Combos Are More Fun Than Strive’s

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  • Just a little combo trials. Not good at the game, but it’s fun
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  • @fraillies2769
    @fraillies2769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    1. This is clearly a joke
    2. Sick combos, I need to revisit xrd to do trials now that my inputs are better, but props to you dude
    3. Xrds combos are definitely more engaging. With more button presses and more freedom in what you press, even with xrd being one of my first fighting games, when a string came together it felt really nice, and not to mention it was easy to string together with galling. Air combos were also a lot more frequent and accessible. When someone pulls off a combo in xrd you know they were practicing for a hell of a long time
    In strive combos are shorter, and still can be engaging but if you start off with the wrong buttons you can completely fuck over the rest of the combo in some cases and it shows
    I'm not an expert at either game, but even as a newbie, I can still appreciate xrds complex combos and prefer them over strive

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Appreciate the comment, most people here take things literally, even tho the strive “combo” is obviously a mock. The tools in xrd are another thing that I miss when it transferred to strive. Ram in xrd is so much more cool and fun than in strive as an example.

  • @BlandNoodles
    @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Highly recommend Xrd, but I wish the netcode was better😭
    Edit: LEEEEEEEEEEETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    also a lot of people are watching this video as of late. I should probably do a real explanation video or a part 2 follow up.

    • @cat3rdcaraccident726
      @cat3rdcaraccident726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      and thats why i play strive

    • @mrsteak3224
      @mrsteak3224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey what’s the song playing during the combo trials?

    • @theanimenaut
      @theanimenaut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrsteak3224 Big Blast Sonic

    • @mrsteak3224
      @mrsteak3224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theanimenaut thx

    • @ggmasterguiltygear6315
      @ggmasterguiltygear6315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PRACH BROTHER, ACTUAL COMBOS, None of that "accessibility" BS.

  • @jacoba636
    @jacoba636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    I don't think strive overall has a bad combo. The combos are pretty cool but it's more about the hp. It goes down so fast man.

    • @lavadragon6444
      @lavadragon6444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I think it's more simplifying and toning down of characters that makes the combos less crazy. In some cases, older GGs did more dmg.

    • @caelan5301
      @caelan5301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *cries in jack-o*

    • @user-cb9gk3oc5w
      @user-cb9gk3oc5w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@lavadragon6444 its not simple. Its primitive.

    • @MiguelBD
      @MiguelBD ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Xrd is to Strive what melee is to brawl

    • @DeertickDaniel
      @DeertickDaniel 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MiguelBDmore like ultímate since brawl was so slow and guilty gear will never slow down

  • @shadysheister
    @shadysheister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Hard agree. Strive 1.10 was definitely a huge step in the right direction by opening up air gatlings for everyone, but it still needs a few more patches that add something to the mix. I’d love for any kind of 25% tension option personally.

    • @malikoniousjoe
      @malikoniousjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      BLITZ SHIELD
      BLITZ SHIELD
      BLITZ SHIELD
      Come on please?!

    • @shadysheister
      @shadysheister 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@malikoniousjoe either that or they can make start up PRC only cost 25%. Hell why not give us both

    • @tabkg5802
      @tabkg5802 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I pray for gatlings, good airdashes and FRC for 25% tension

    • @wildstartimes
      @wildstartimes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something for the normal attack

    • @dj_koen1265
      @dj_koen1265 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Strive will never be xrd, better just play xrd

  • @theoverlander4579
    @theoverlander4579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I really hope they open up more combo routes for characters universally so that the game can have longer and more flashy combos.

    • @user-cb9gk3oc5w
      @user-cb9gk3oc5w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if the comos in strive will be longer - it will be ToD

    • @zacharyjennings7675
      @zacharyjennings7675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hope so too, they just have to scale the damage down also

    • @tabkg5802
      @tabkg5802 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-cb9gk3oc5w they just have to nerf damage or buff guts

    • @tabkg5802
      @tabkg5802 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zacharyjennings7675 scaling nerf will destroy the utility of long combos

    • @user-cb9gk3oc5w
      @user-cb9gk3oc5w ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tabkg5802 which they wont do cos they say HIGH DAMAGE OUTPUT WAS INTENTIONAL. Jeez.

  • @purplebunz
    @purplebunz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I really hope arc sys makes a rerelease of strive similar to strive+. Just give everyone wacky combos. I think that would be a lot of fun.

    • @Hi-Im-Gib
      @Hi-Im-Gib ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How does that even work tho?
      I only got into Guilty Gear through strive, and I'm genuinely curious:
      What even was the difference between Xrd, Xrd Revelator, Xrd Re Revelator, Xrd Sign and all those other ones?

    • @i_dont_pay_taxes491
      @i_dont_pay_taxes491 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Hi-Im-Gib xrd sing was the original, then came xrd revelator, it was a semi sequel but with extremely similar gameplay, then came revelator 2 and all those things, those were "title updates", think of it as dlc that made the game have a bunch of new features, not a new game, but paying for a major update

  • @ashgreninja787
    @ashgreninja787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those were way cooler than I would've thought

  • @emeraldmann1329
    @emeraldmann1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I think it's a bit unfair to have your only example of a strive combo being normal->special, and then doing dust combos and 100% meter combos for Xrd. I don't think that Strive combos hold up to Xrd combos in terms of length, this is just a not particularly fair comparison.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Beginning wasn’t meant to be serious mate, I thought 2HS into 236 P would obviously be seen as a joke considering that no one uses that combo route and it looks silly. I also just wanted to show off a few Xrd combos

    • @emeraldmann1329
      @emeraldmann1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@BlandNoodles That's fair, just a bit overly hostile when you've got a thumbnail and a title that are just blatantly trying to drive a wedge between the games

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@emeraldmann1329 not my intention, but I’ll keep that in mind bro👍

    • @areks4397
      @areks4397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I thought so too for a split second but yeah, it was obvious it was deliberately done as a joke/mock. It's basically shit talk but without hurting anyone in particular.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@areks4397 rest of the comments don’t think so😢

  • @toxictoaster5698
    @toxictoaster5698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    strive players can handle absolutely 0 banter

  • @patrickstomlinsonkilledber3105
    @patrickstomlinsonkilledber3105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love that smashers had to come in to say they like strive more. Great upload, very nostalgic

    • @lililing14
      @lililing14 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And you know they're smashers...how?

  • @malikoniousjoe
    @malikoniousjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Xrd is probably my favorite game of all time if not just my favorite fighting game, and even then I was still sad back in the day that characters were missing XX tools like Sidewinder or Lightning Strike or EX versions. Strive is too stripped down for me. I want my old PKSHS gatlings. I want Break. I want Grand Viper. I want my DI (Heavy Mob Cemetary is rad but is no replacement for DI Tyrant Rave).

  • @dc7981
    @dc7981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Xrd is a perfect in between of Strive and Plus R. Easier then Plus R but more challlenging then Strive

  • @WatarouDesiderus
    @WatarouDesiderus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The damage being lower and theirs more engagement needed with combos makes Xrd so fun. Strive having huge damage and win conditions being easy made hit conversions and combos boring after a while. Thx for the video.

    • @user-cb9gk3oc5w
      @user-cb9gk3oc5w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      try play not sol or ky and u see that conversions is not easy to make actually.

    • @emptyjumplow
      @emptyjumplow ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-cb9gk3oc5w they are very easy,

    • @sonic-bb
      @sonic-bb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@emptyjumplowas you say while prob in 2nd floor

    • @jeezorgeezVEVO
      @jeezorgeezVEVO หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@sonic-bb...im on the highest floor and probably could get Celestial if i put in the effort. Strive is undeniably one of the easiest fighting games out there. Every character has watered down easy conversions compared to previous games

  • @commandermajorsoldier
    @commandermajorsoldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I still do the input for knockdown after every volcanic viper

  • @karu4371
    @karu4371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never played Xrd before, kinda nuts seeing pot can combo into something from pot buster (without RC)

  • @HoseB932
    @HoseB932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a cool video.
    Thank you.
    I too wish the game got good netcode.

  • @joshuaknox2724
    @joshuaknox2724 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love your name because that's what i eat nearly everyday ....subbed

  • @RenaissanceVulpine
    @RenaissanceVulpine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Avarege Strive Combos he says, bruh I didnt see a single Potemkin Buster in here

  • @InitialDL84
    @InitialDL84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd even say GG X Accent Core Plus R is even more fun when it came to the combos, but I'm just being bias since that's the last one I played and was heavily into. I have Xrd on PS3 but only been in practice mode with Chipp; will probably end up copping it on Steam. I haven't touched Strive but I'm not too hyped about playing it tbh.

  • @MapOfTheLost
    @MapOfTheLost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    highly recommend bbcf if you enjoy xrd's combos, that game has some awesome stuff. Bang, Hazama, and Susano'o all have really cool combo structure, I mean most of the cast does but those three are my current favorites!

  • @shirbarakan
    @shirbarakan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Average strive combo fan vs average xrd dust loop enjoyer

  • @TheSilverazo
    @TheSilverazo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I hope Xrd gets rollback one day so we can stop pretending to like Strive

    • @AardappelGames
      @AardappelGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      strive is good

    • @Gamma0_0
      @Gamma0_0 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soon, my friend... Very soon...

    • @matteste
      @matteste ปีที่แล้ว

      Ask and you shallow recieve.

  • @FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA
    @FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine a combo maker in a game that has less freedom of expression that the previous title smh .....that feature makes way more sense to be in xrd

  • @gimmeyourrights8292
    @gimmeyourrights8292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have no problem with Strive's accessibility but I do think they shouldn't have made it grounded. Guilty Hear is an anime fighter, and that means air combos, air dashes, and etc.

  • @an11-_-mo29
    @an11-_-mo29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Strive is cool and all but I'll always prefer xrd

  • @erno6155
    @erno6155 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Might have to give xrd a try, and learn slayer before he drops.
    Any tips? never played xrd before.

  • @nanaboru3276
    @nanaboru3276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    while i do agree that xrd's combo difficulty made them more satisfying to pull off, There's just something about removing your opponents hp to 10% that makes u feel like a god. And with all the defensive options the game gives you, it feels earned if they just eat it, unless you play may xD

  • @Waynery
    @Waynery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of my hopium goes to the "big balance patch" that strive is gonna get, I hope for lowered damage and more bombos variety...
    Thought the game is still cool, xrd just got me shivering because of how scary powerful everyone else is!

  • @dercarrot991
    @dercarrot991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While the combos are cool I do enjoy the shorter combos, they make it easier to learn new characters.

    • @emptyjumplow
      @emptyjumplow ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also makes it less rewarding.

  • @blankspotato7848
    @blankspotato7848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    FUCKING BASED

  • @nixedification
    @nixedification 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Have you tried any of the Strive combo trials with the maker? They are supre fun, and they can be unbelivably flashy. Theres less air combos but its sometimes more technical than xrd with TK dps on sol or frame perfect inputs with HC or jacko, or goldlewis crazy inputs.
    no dustloops tho sadly

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, but you can’t tell me that the ram combos at the end don’t look cool. You’re right, some combos and tech are great, but xrd’s system is more fun in my opinion. You also have more moves/tools to work with just like how ram changed from Xrd to strive. But I agree that Goldlewis is really fun

    • @cerdi_99
      @cerdi_99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      baiken kinda has dustloops in strive thx to j.D being jump and dash cancellable

    • @IfWhatYes
      @IfWhatYes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cerdi_99 leo has dustloops too

  • @aidanpupilis2979
    @aidanpupilis2979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    It turns out they are different games, who would’ve thought

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah we know, you were trying so hard there man

    • @malikoniousjoe
      @malikoniousjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh fuck, I guess they can’t be compared at all then. Wrap it up bois, we haters just gotta go fuckin commit sudoku I guess. Homeboy found out that stating the obvious deflects criticism and comparison of a game from its direct predecessor.

    • @aidanpupilis2979
      @aidanpupilis2979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@malikoniousjoe you can compare all you like, that’s fine, but implying that one game is inferior to the other because it isn’t like what it’s not doesn’t make sense, and don’t come at me acting like i haven’t poured a ass ton of time into both of these games, I love them both and and hate seeing them compared for the soul purpose of ragging on strive

    • @malikoniousjoe
      @malikoniousjoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@aidanpupilis2979 I think the mistake is believing people rag on it for the sake of ragging on it. I’ve played Xrd since it dropped with Sign and have loved it to pieces. When the first Strive trailer released I was so hyped laying in bed that I stayed up with it on loop all night and damn near missed work. It looked and sounded incredible and I spent the year or so leading up to release on the edge of my seat. Unfortunately hype leads to dissapointment, high expectations can only lead to the unfortunate reality. With the experience and context of XX and Xrd, the game I had imagined Strive to be simply didn’t come to fruition and sadly those expectations cannot be set aside. The game is a direct sequel. The primary fanbase stems from older fans. When things change people are bound to be emotionally affected.
      I rag on Strive because it could have been more to me. It isn’t what I wanted, and doesn’t hold my affection as Xrd did. Strive has ass gameplay (imo obviously, milage may vary) but gets kick ass netcode and thus a thriving player base who do enjoy the game. Xrd hits all the right spots for me but has shite netcode and an empty online presence. I wish I could enjoy Strive but I can’t, and its existence both holds back the possibility of netcode improvements for Xrd, and kills any further additional Xrd content. I wish I could gush about it but I largely am left with complaints, and so I complain. The loudest detractors of most things are generally those who were at some point heavily invested and passionate.

    • @inepthuman300
      @inepthuman300 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@malikoniousjoe i don't think it kills the possibility of xrd rollback.

  • @archheretic6300
    @archheretic6300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What makes Xrd much better than Strive for me is it has the god damn swaggy ass JOHNNY

  • @user-ro5ww2rb7z
    @user-ro5ww2rb7z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can link after pot buster in xrd?? I thought he only had that in xx holy shit

  • @doddy1430
    @doddy1430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this song :0

  • @user-gb2tf6vm1s
    @user-gb2tf6vm1s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baiken's combo 10 is gangster af. Meterless 50% Azami midscreen punish that requires you to do Kire tatami,IAD mid combo and her dustloop in one combo. One of my proudest achievements.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tried it and haven’t been able to do it yet, still getting at it tho

    • @user-gb2tf6vm1s
      @user-gb2tf6vm1s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlandNoodles keep on trying. I did it on pad,took a couple of weeks to consistently do KIre Tatami in matches.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/g-pG_XZsU6A/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BlandNoodles
      I did it

  • @RoadKamelot2nd
    @RoadKamelot2nd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guilty Gear Xrd needs two things:
    1) rollback netcode
    2) the issues with strict NAT solved
    Other than that, it's the best Guilty Gear to ever come out.

  • @jonnysac77
    @jonnysac77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Xrd in general is more fun than Strive, +R even more so

  • @nightwolf9375
    @nightwolf9375 ปีที่แล้ว

    So far, everything that I’ve seen from both titles have had their pros and their cons; but in the end I’m leaning more towards Rev 2, I just prefer the way the game is laid out and the art-style fits the gameplay better than Strive. I appreciate the upgraded graphics as expected, but it’s kind of jarring to me to have these photo-realistic backgrounds and shadows with Hand-drawn/cell-shaded characters.
    Some characters look better in strive and some look better in Rev2. The actual gameplay appears to be relatively the same based on my research, except with Rev2 having more freedom and depth while including difficulty which I appreciate since I’ve been looking for a challenge.
    All in all, there is no definitive answer; it depends on what you’re looking for. And I seem to have found just that, Can’t wait to pick this up soon.

  • @karenwest6350
    @karenwest6350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Strive's combos feel way more fun to me. I like that when I hit someone, it feels like I'm actually doing damage thanks the the game not scaling everything to bits. Sure Xrd combos are longer and undeniably cooler looking, but seeing potemkin spend a bar to get like a cm of extra health off is kinda sad.

    • @devilmaycry-3
      @devilmaycry-3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I disagree. I think it's balanced and leads to longer, more fulfilling matches. It's upsetting for a non-meter input to destroy my health, especially when pot buster in strive can kill in two successful hits, which any half-decent potemkin player will land.

    • @Foodie-MS-08th
      @Foodie-MS-08th 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm not a fan of the Strive hate because it's a damn good game but I still prefer Xrd/Ac+R for its lighter gravity and conversion routes. The lighter gravity is so freeing and fun compared to fighting in a 100x gravity chamber. Characters in general also had longer movesets to choose from which is more engaging for me personally. I can do without super longer combos but I want Strive's roster to get more routes to convert off hits and to bring back, or add, new specials for most characters.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Completely valid point, I just like how the combos work in this game and how there are a lot more tools in xrd than in strive. Seeing the sick ram combo at the end of the video and comparing to the boring BnB wall carry that we see in strive isn’t comparable.

    • @webbacon7106
      @webbacon7106 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@devilmaycry-3 buster kills in 3 because of guts, but at the end of the day, just don't get grabbed

    • @boringinu2077
      @boringinu2077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Strive ram is stupid , As ram player since sign , i disagree strive ram is decent design.
      Xrd ram is much complete even though she is kinda low tier.

  • @scatman1236
    @scatman1236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Cooler combos, cooler music, cooler stages... Xrd was just cooler in general

    • @Connard15
      @Connard15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t know about the music but the combos were better

    • @civildefencer7336
      @civildefencer7336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Xrd is actually the best GG
      including AC+R ngl

    • @harryvpn1462
      @harryvpn1462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@civildefencer7336 least playable one online though

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know about stages, as superior as xrd is, strives stages are awesome, look at the flying buddha stage or the forest one, or the one that came with baiken. Also the one with the skulls

    • @scatman1236
      @scatman1236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ratedr7845 Strive does also have good stages, that's true. I'll be honest though, I just prefer Xrd's.

  • @nishaevening
    @nishaevening 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the good and reliable xrd

  • @randomuser-mv7bb
    @randomuser-mv7bb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Everyone knows that Xrd combo is flashier because the wall system does not exist. However I think you are selling short Strive here. The first one is not even a combo, it's just 1-2 hit confirm. At least do standard BnB. And then you can add RC for a bit more spice.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not only that, from the transfer to strive, tools were removed from pretty much every character. Take the Ram combo at the end, it includes 2 back to back combination moves and a H and S sword set. This isn’t a video to objectively say which game is better. I just have more fun with a tighter combo system that uses more tools, jump cancels, and tight links that is Xrd. I still have fun with Strive, but I do have to say the Xrd system of combos is something else.

  • @jcminer8466
    @jcminer8466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came here because I thought it was a meme/joke. Stayed because the input gauge in the middle of the screen instead of bottom left or center was painful.

  • @lockedparadox
    @lockedparadox ปีที่แล้ว

    Now roll back is in rev2👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿💯

  • @YourDaddysBelt69
    @YourDaddysBelt69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    xrd and +r forever.

  • @The4stro
    @The4stro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dont mind strive combos, buit the removal of xrd style air combos sadden me

  • @aaradeadgal
    @aaradeadgal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you heard of GGAC+R

  • @Aripuni1
    @Aripuni1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both xrd and strive is good game with their own vision

  • @bluemajiic1979
    @bluemajiic1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should of compared it with xrd:sign

  • @thaingominh7431
    @thaingominh7431 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And nicer skin for ky, free ultimate skin

  • @BxnnyBride
    @BxnnyBride 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Elphelt, damn

  • @theofficialpaladyn1148
    @theofficialpaladyn1148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't think it's unhealthy to simplify the game's mechanics when creating a new title, but I do think that Strive's characters have far less tools then their counterparts, and they also do wayyy too much damage. I think they should increase EVERYONE's health to decrease overall DPS and then give characters more tools overall.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally agree with you

    • @emiliovanilla6833
      @emiliovanilla6833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      May be like: "Oh you let me get a counter-hit? Let me take 85% off of your health bar"

    • @206lbs.hercules5
      @206lbs.hercules5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally find that most of the tools that were removed between Xrd and Strive were moves that were fairly unnecessary. For example I don't se why so need to have riot stamp, but there are some which are lame like may losing dolphin set ups.

    • @donut2111
      @donut2111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@206lbs.hercules5 riot stamp helped give Sol strong conversions off of CH 6h and it was also just fun

  • @sonic-bb
    @sonic-bb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The combos are about the same to me

  • @pattrojo6229
    @pattrojo6229 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't have these games, but I've been a lot of matches of both and to sum up, Strive combos are short and ends up with a wall break while in Rev2 and before, they were a lot more longer and funnier to watch.

  • @Theyungcity23
    @Theyungcity23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah no. I don't want to get hit by an 11 hit combo while go and make and sandwich and I certainly don't want to do one. And I'm not even talking about the dozens of hours of grinding to learn it.

  • @LazyPirate8
    @LazyPirate8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strive is just babies guilty gear or diet cola xrd

  • @dimxbvg
    @dimxbvg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Baiken no matter where I go :)

  • @AardappelGames
    @AardappelGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    people really don’t get that the first clip was satire.

  • @joshuaknox2724
    @joshuaknox2724 ปีที่แล้ว

    rev 2 and fighterZ are there greatest achievements master pieces those together make the 2 best fighting games for me so much FUN! i think they make a great pair, you have to have those on your hard drive....lets be honest they're not adding rollback to rev2 as that would be strives funeral

  • @Salgi007
    @Salgi007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Xrd is more fun than strive

  • @MetaSynForYourSoul
    @MetaSynForYourSoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own both actually I own both sign and rev2, but never played them until Strive. Strive is my game Gioi s my main and oddly it could help some folks new to anime fighters get into it.

  • @thepeanutter9972
    @thepeanutter9972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want matchmaking

  • @heyt-o
    @heyt-o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amen !!!!!

  • @joser1522
    @joser1522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah I definitely see your point but Strive being more simple and easier for beginners definitely helped with it's success as it got a lot of people (me included) into fighting games since you didn't need to do a kick ass 40 button combo string to obliterate someone's will to live, you just have to play axl to do that in strive B)

  • @KyKiosk
    @KyKiosk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Though I agree that Xrd's combo are more appealing (At least to me personally) then Strives it can't be understated that Strive's combo's are much more in depth then people give them credit. Strive has a bit more emphasis on neutral and is a bit more ground based then past games but that still doesn't mean it's anything lame or tame. Though you can pick certain characters like Ram or May or Pot and get relatively high up with very limited game/ combo knowledge you really won't get past rank 6 without starting to put in some work. Xrd also was in 2014 with it's last version Rev2 in 2017 while Strive is not even a year old as of writing this and hasn't even finished its season 1 pass.
    Strive's combo's are very much there and have plenty of routes to experiment with while the game adds new characters, patches and version updates. Y'just have to put in the time to find these routes and git gud enough to execute them with consistency and proficiency. I mean the average Sol combos I see personally even starting mid stage last about the same as an Xrd combo. It's really just different punish game now simply due to the wallbreak mechanic that you of course want to try and always get.
    In conclusion, wait for the meta to continue to develop and new characters get added in to the game. This is the first version of Strive after all, the game will probably change a lot as time passes just like before.
    Sincerely yours,
    Leo secondary

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love strive, but after playing a lot of Xrd, I wish that Strive didn’t take away so many tools/moves when transitioning. Xrd also has a bunch tech from jump cancels and also blitz, which just ends up making me like Xrd combos better. I still play more Strive as I’m better at that game, but I makes me want to get Sol’s break back or even Millia’s pin. I don’t really have an issue with the neutral or punish game, other than I wish there were more interactions before wining a round (but that is my preference). I look forward to the future of strive, even if I doesn’t suit my tastes completely. Still, your comment is way better formulated than 80% of the arguments in this comment section and present genuine points, so I thank you 👍
      Sincerely thou,
      The Blandest of Noodles

    • @KyKiosk
      @KyKiosk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlandNoodles I must agree with you there which is why I am hoping future patches/ versions of Strive adds in more tech old and or new. And though jump cancel combos are still possible with characters it's not what it used to be. Besides Millia, Sol and Anji the amount of air to air combos tend to be very short lived especially without RC.
      And I couldn't agree more as far as moves go. Some characters get a good lineup of moves to work with like Sol, Ky, Leo, Zato and so on. But some characters definitely got shafted like Jack-O and Goldlewis. I understand Jack-O's moves being removed and changed to fit more of Strive's core play style but Baiken lost several moves for really no reason. Granted she did get Tether, Kabari follow up move, and a new parry. But she really only has 4-5 specials. 1 which being tether Kabari which isn't a neutral tool and only a combo tool for something like Counter 6H or using it on blocking opponents. And how they massacred Azami into Hiiragi is just painful. It takes a deep (If annoying) parry move into an occasional pop option to catch a sleeping aggressor trying to hit them on wakeup or block. Really sad she lost like half her specials and the replacements aren't really anything exciting. She really has 3 specials to work with and only Tatami and TK Youzansen is any good for combo starting in match. Her new Kenjyu super is great at least. And Goldlewis has 3 specials with very situational uses and supers that with mixed results. It's sad that more characters didn't get just more or at least 6-8 specials to really mix up combos and neutral more.
      It also sucks seeing some moves gone and really drastically change a characters placement (Cries in Greed Sever). Though Foudre Arc is objectively a better move Ky looses on a main combo tool from past games as well as an overhead option now having to rely on dust attacks which are highly telegraphed and grabs which can be easily snuffed out and countered. And the loss of Instant Kills, one of Guilty Gears mainstay mechanics now being omitted from Strive is just depressing. It also sucks seeing how Sol's iconic Dragon Install was turned into a easily avoidable command grab (Granted with high damage) and given honestly a pretty mediocre version to Ky. As a Ky main I still love having it but it's not NEARLY what Sol DI was. Ky's may last forever and greatly extends his combo game it's only available at 30% or lower HP and has a very unsafe startup on activation. You pretty much need to combo it into something for it to be viable at all or be fullscreen away and hope they can't hit you. When I think to Sol's DI I can only think of how Xrd treated it and how insane it was. Insane high damage combos for a short time with increased everything and changing the music as a cherry on top. It really felt that you were in for it on the other side. Hopefully Ky's DI will be reworked to better fit that feeling while still adhering to his game plan with it even if it's just a few simple changes.
      Finally, dustloop feels rather odd. Not gutted but definitely lacking. I understand the loss of the wall dust attack for Strive but the fact there's no regular air dustattack input like in past games really feels bad especially it could be used wherever whenever. I mean really how many people now in Strive compared to Xrd go for a dustattack outside of overhead blockings and wallbreak finishes like Gio. It's really sad that it's been sorta left aside for really any use in game and not used like before.
      To surmise, I agree. The lack of air to air combos for most characters is pretty disappointing and the tech and moves lost is pretty sad to see gone especially when you see how much it boosted Xrd's reputation and identity. I hope that a future version of Strive will add these mechanics back if not add new ones to give Strive it's own identity. Whichever one doesn't really matter to me, just as long as it happens. I'm excited to see what season 2 of Strive will bring to the table. Until then, I shall be breaking my hands trying to optimize Ky combos so I can get 3-0'd by Celestial Ram's in ranked play.
      Sincerely, and forever yours,
      Consort waiting for Vernon to join Strive

  • @flayncel
    @flayncel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ok where's the corner to corner hc and axl bomber loops in the beginning
    aside from that yes xrd is fucking awesome I hope it gets rollback because I don't think I'll ever play strive again if xrd gets rollback

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If BBTAG, BBCF, AC+R, and P4AU can get rollback, it’s only a matter of time

    • @flayncel
      @flayncel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlandNoodles I sure hope so, I hear implementing rollback in Xrd is a bitch but I guess it depends on whoever is insane enough to go through with it and get asw's attention

    • @inepthuman300
      @inepthuman300 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flayncel dbz rollback has been confirmed dude. its no longer impossible. in fact probably arc sys next project

  • @Skimmytimmy
    @Skimmytimmy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yea maybe the combos are fun but I love being able to easily switch between characters because combos are pretty universal

  • @Flubbadon
    @Flubbadon ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah but I’m too stupid to do any of that

  • @clapinkills133
    @clapinkills133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are these combos even do able on controllers 😭

    • @dj_koen1265
      @dj_koen1265 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not for me at least

    • @clapinkills133
      @clapinkills133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dj_koen1265 I swear

  • @sargewha1
    @sargewha1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It weird to be that you choose sol at the start didn't do any of his midscreen kara routes and choose leo, slayer, and baiken who all have strive style combos or more interesting ones in strive. I understand preferring one system over the other but the choice to use a shitty combo at the start and then use mostly unoptimal combo trials doesn't really push your point forward that well.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The Strive sol “Combo” in the beginning wasn’t supposed to be taken seriously mate. Also, the combos you mentioned have huge amounts of differences. Leo’s advanced 7 have true Gatling as you can go from P,K,S,c.S,Hs into specials. Slayers combos are all links, he doesn’t have any gatlings to my knowledge (besides moves going into themselves). And Baiken isn’t limited by wall splat and she could combo after a grab. I just wanted to have fun with this video and decided a more satirical presentation. Hope that clears things up👍

    • @sargewha1
      @sargewha1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Baiken has way more corner combo variety in strive where in xrd its just dustloop into kuchinagi knockdown. Slayer has similar strive combos where his combos are special into normal then special. I'm not saying that there aren't nuances from xrd that are sick or well missed its just leading with an example that we aren't supposed to take seriously it begs the question why should we take your points seriously?

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sargewha1 mate it’s just a video showing off Xrd combo trials that I like doing. I’m not pointing a gun at your head for you to agree with me. Don’t look into it so hard, I’m just having fun.

    • @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
      @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlandNoodles their acting like they gotta defend their game or something lmao 🤣

    • @Nyagro
      @Nyagro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sargewha1 Bruh, he literally said it's meant to be a joke before again. If you can't take that then you're better off the internet for a while. People need to stop being butthurt over others making fun of their favourite game. There were a ton of memes about Xrd as well.
      This isn't a personal attack and meant to be taken literally so it's all right fam.

  • @YungFalconGG
    @YungFalconGG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Strive's issues are not combos they're intricate and take effort to pull off the issue is that you never really get a chance to flex those combos because people die of counter hit SO DANG QUICK

  • @MILDMONSTER1234
    @MILDMONSTER1234 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More like Xrd actually has combos unlike STRIVE

  • @jreut09
    @jreut09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    They kinda aren't tho. Strive combos feel precise and effective whilst in Rev 2 I feel like I'm desperately smacking my controller trying to hit confirm for any damage at all. Could be that I'm just bad.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It’s ok, Xrd is a lot harder game than strive and I button mash in both😭

    • @rickyboiiiii
      @rickyboiiiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BlandNoodles more mechanics != harder lmao, if you're really talking about harder, you should've mentioned +R instead of the dumbed down version of +R, which is Xrd.

    • @inepthuman300
      @inepthuman300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rickyboiiiii its not about more mechanics. xrd is actually harder than strive not just cuz it has more mechanics. and yes plus r is even harder than xrd. its basically a downhill slope lol.

  • @amazing-medo3883
    @amazing-medo3883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I adore xrd the combo system is soo fun
    and guilty gear in general has the best music imo but because xrd has the non rock ones
    (freesia, all I can do, ect) it makes it better
    I still adore strive's soundtrack but I am not a rock fan I only like guilty gear's rock cuzz it manages to mix rock with multiple music genres and styles

  • @jamgUNoh
    @jamgUNoh ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish arc made a newer series instead of gutting older ones, xrd was already a simpler version of r+. It feels like every character is slayer with how the damage calculation works now and low execution characters feel braindead. At least UNI 2 is confirmed, hope they dont fuck up as bad

  • @DeertickDaniel
    @DeertickDaniel 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mfer started this video with a combo pot can pretty much do in strive

  • @Shad809
    @Shad809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    +R combos are better than XRDs

  • @tiozaod.105
    @tiozaod.105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Strive is a version strett figther 5 of guilty gear. No shit damage fron strive

  • @totemking9418
    @totemking9418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I get what you're trying to say and while i partially agree comparing advanced xrd combos with rcs and overdrives to a basic 2 hit combo in strive is kinda dumb, even if they are easier strive definitely has more advanced and cool looking stuff

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The 2 hit combo was supposed to be a mock on how strive has a somewhat simpler mechanics. I enjoy Xrd combos because of the tools that are removed in Strive (I.e Ram in both games). Of course this is all subjective and all opinions are valid. I just like how Xrd works, but I still love and play more Strive in the end.

  • @duggyfresh8899
    @duggyfresh8899 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh yes it's not even close. Tbh strive was the biggest disappointment of a game for me. I thought I was finally gonna get a gg game with good netcode while it still had a player base, but the game just can't keep me interested.

  • @Hecatom
    @Hecatom หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amen.
    Strive is not Guilty Gear.
    Is Glamorous Garbage.

  • @user-cb9gk3oc5w
    @user-cb9gk3oc5w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Totally. Xrd itself is more fun than strive. Even as a newbe in the series I can say it. And for some reason combo in xrd come out more consistently than in strive.
    #Rollback_Xrd_when?

  • @pandaparty3o674
    @pandaparty3o674 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music?

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big Blast Sonic- Guilty Gear Rev 2 Music

    • @pandaparty3o674
      @pandaparty3o674 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlandNoodles thank you

  • @juujidotexe
    @juujidotexe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No just in combos, strIVe also fails in details like the style, and they quit the "destroyed"

  • @Larkinsmithx
    @Larkinsmithx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    are you new to fighting games

  • @HGhaleon
    @HGhaleon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plain and simple, combos in Xrd are way better and more expressive. It's not even a fair comparison between the 2 games:
    Strive = short combos with limited options and harder execution
    Xrd = longer and more creative combos with tons of options and easier execution
    Rather take more options with easier execution than the other way around.

    • @inepthuman300
      @inepthuman300 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      strive has harder execution? interesting. i have yet to buy the game but thats not really what i've been hearing. maybe happy chaos idk.

  • @MasterSprintersan1
    @MasterSprintersan1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Strive feels terrible to play. At least for me. Rev2 is just MMM! Though! ❤

  • @RJMazz47
    @RJMazz47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imho the only thing Xrd has over Strive is the length of combos. Hits are crunchier in Strive and there are some really OD things you can do like RCing a move that moves you forward so you can ride the momentum and go really far to do combos you couldn't before. Combo size/length isn't everything.

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also has more tools like break for sol and millias pin, I never said size matters😏

  • @wowitsportal5225
    @wowitsportal5225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean it’s expected that strive has less interesting combos than xrd

  • @llllShifTllll
    @llllShifTllll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was the worst strawman i've ever seen in my life.

  • @bluish1318
    @bluish1318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do Baiken advance 10 :)

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/g-pG_XZsU6A/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BlandNoodles
      Finally did it :)

  • @oipio101
    @oipio101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    harder doesnt really mean more fun

  • @HellecticMojo
    @HellecticMojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Then you have to defend it and it starts to suck.

  • @inkoslinko9542
    @inkoslinko9542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no

  • @l06es_3xp.2
    @l06es_3xp.2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came here for actual comparison. But got xrd combos only. Even though I prefer xrd more than strive, this is a troll. Really disappointed

  • @Aeirion
    @Aeirion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My guy hasn't seen a single strive combo cause we can do most of this kinda stuff.

  • @SomniaCE
    @SomniaCE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah but Xrd ain't playable with that dogshit netcode

    • @tylercafe1260
      @tylercafe1260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate this emphasis so much because fighting games are the one consistent genre that playing offline is the easiest and the most preffered everytime. When games like LoL literally exist purely online. I feel the push for Rollback was necessary but with how we talk about it nowadays its like playing offline is now a meme when that's literally the best way to play anyways.

    • @SomniaCE
      @SomniaCE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylercafe1260 Yeah man lemme just convince my local scene to go back to Xrd or spend most of my time playing Xrd so I can show up and play at like 4 tournaments a year. Oh wait... I don't even have a local scene for Strive in the first place...
      I want to play the game with people and I'm not gonna spend time learning a game if I can't play it with others consistently. If you have locals to play it with or you can get decent online matches then by all means go for it. I don't have that luxury though so without playable online, the game is straight up unplayable unless I wanna spend all my time labbing or beating up on simple AI.

  • @semantik95
    @semantik95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Games not playable with its trash netcode. Combos don't matter if you can't play the fucking game

  • @botero01
    @botero01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is very dishonest look up Strive tech

    • @BlandNoodles
      @BlandNoodles  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wasn’t meant to be serious mate, I love strive and just wanted to show a couple Xrd combos because I love Xrd too.

    • @botero01
      @botero01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlandNoodles Xrd is amazing, but very much surpassed by Strive I think. It´s hard to tell what´s a joke nowadays.

    • @inepthuman300
      @inepthuman300 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@botero01 not surpassed by strive in anything that isn't superficial

    • @botero01
      @botero01 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inepthuman300 I could argue how and why Strive is superior in almost every possible way. Xrd has some little cosmetic extras that Strive lacks still (instant kills mostly) other than that they knocked it out of the park on every level, and keep making it better with every patch.

    • @inepthuman300
      @inepthuman300 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@botero01 then tell me how and why. i'm planning to buy the game. looking for something similar to blazblue or xrd. long finnicky high execution combos with a ton of variety. free form offense and lots of options on okizeme. completely unique characters with really cool tools. nuanced defensive mechanics (ex. IB, FD/Barrier, slashback, dead angles etc). fast neutral with lots of mobility options. these are some of my criteria for a great fun fighting game