The 90's Election That Could Have Changed Everything (And If It Happened)
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- In 1992 one eccentric billionaire ran for president and ended up getting a sizable portion of the vote. Thirty years on, his run has largely been left in the 90s. But especially in today's climate, I think he was the start of something we see today. So just to do it, what if Ross Perot won in 1992? Its more relevant than you think.
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Very disappointed to hear people didn't just starting hating the establishment starting at my generation
Yo bro. What is good in your hood?
But Jreg your from Canada
@@youtubewatcher3511 him being from Canada doesn’t exclude him from hating the establishment in Canada, god some of you Americans are so god dame closed minded (countries all around the world have problems with the establishment)
@@kalipsicao790 it wasn’t really meant to be taken seriously
@@youtubewatcher3511 dude it was a post-ironic meta comment duh
“Do you think people just started to hate the 2 party system”
As a European i always ask myself :
"Why does USA have a two-party system ?" Its ridiculous
@@cgt3704 as an argentinian I can answer that, you don't get a two-party system, the two-party system gets you
@@rockergamer109 mierda que sentí eso
@@cgt3704 first past the post elections, that's why. UK is also basically a two-party system for the same reason. (yes other parties do enter parliament but only Tories and Labour matter (before WW1 it was Liberals in the place of Labour))
@@cgt3704 Exactly, and they always idiotically say: 'We are the best country in the world because we are a democracy'. XD Europe has way better democracies.
People forget that Perot was actually ahead in the polls until he dropped out of the race (and then came back in). If he had never done that, he might have won.
I'm pretty doubtful of that.
To win he would need a majority in the electoral college. In a 3 person race and as a third party candidate, he would have gotten a plurality at best. That means the house (run by the 2 parties we all "love") would pick the president.
Its unfortunate, but he never stood a chance.
Hard to say. He was taking up a lot of oxygen. Bill Clinton was a nobody bystander. It was a lot of Perot hating Bush. How would the Republicans have voted? Would it have allowed Clinton to sneak in the way Wilson snuck in because of the Roosevelt/Taft fight? But the timing of his dropout right when the Dems had their convention gave all that anti- Bush/establishment/Republican anger fully over to Clinton. The election was settled right then. Bush tried, but I think to much damage, with Bill getting a ton unstoppable momentum.
Taft-Roosevelt gave us the racist regressive Wilson. Perot not welcomed into the Republican elites giving Slick Willy the White House. John Roberts self-importance, thinking he can keep the Supreme Court neutral (failing miserably repeatedly) calling Obamacare a "tax". Fragile ego John McCain upset Trump called him names and votes to uphold Obamacare in spite. Republicans sure know how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Don’t forget his conspiracy theories about the CIA. Also, the SNL skits from that era do a good job of showing how he personally seemed really weird despite the popularity of his proposals.
@@jameslapp554 He was leading by 55% though.
@@jasonkiefer1894 Got to remember also no Perot in 92 then Bush wins 2nd term which changes history. while yes Ross took some votes away from the dems, he took way more away from the pubs costing the pubs the WH. Had Perot not dropped out (which killed any chance he had) Perot could have actually got it.
I did not vote for Perot in 1992. Mostly because:
- I am not American
- I was three years old in 1992
- I was not a mother at the time
Cool story bro
Damn you're old
@@purest_evilpretty sure she’s a girl since she said she wasn’t a mother at that time
@@UGOISCOOLNOW call everyone bro + Ugo is trash
😂😂 Yeah born in 86, I'm a father NOW,so I support this list👊🏿
Abraham Lincoln was basically a third party candidate.
Really?
@@mitchellrenton6044 Yes. Lincoln first entered into politics as a Whig until it died sometime in the 1850's. The 1860 Election had four candidates: him (Republican), Breckinbridge (Southern Democrat), Douglas (Northern Democrat), and John Bell (Constitutional Party)...
Wassup Mr Beat!
Republicans had already replaced the Whigs in congress for a few years by that point though so not exactly a third party by 1860.
Mr. Beat. Ye, the US wasn't a two party system back then.
Well, we wouldn’t have an Animaniacs Intro with Bill Clinton playing the Sax.
Love how Animaniacs is relevant again.
All of reality stands on the shoulders of Animaniacs. We need to face that truth
@@the_man_emperor_of_mankind it always has
I'd vote for The Brain to be president.
Which also means we shouldn’t have see him with the sax in this video’s thumbnail.
Moral of the story: Donald Trump wanted Oprah Winfrey as his Vice President in 2000.
Trump was a Democrat back then, he would switch from red to blue several times back in those days.
@red leader's fav dude well if Trump was a Democrat yes he would be treated differently for sure, now the gop and dem hate him so much because they fear him
OPRAH CAN DO *ANYTHING!*
@Robert Ortiz-Wilson Oh absolutely. While the GOP is by no means one united front, they may as well be compared to the fractured mess that the Democratic party is nowadays. In the GOP, you could win over a few key people in the party and most will either follow or at most silently oppose you or just take a shot every now and then. In the Democratic party... They eat their own the moment you disagree. The Dems have no humanity left as far as Im concerned.
@@actuallyrealcover Less he switched and more he stayed the same and the democrats actively moved so far to the left he became a republican
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*VERY* *THICC*
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The Drake and Josh clip just made this video.
Wow! 😧 I can’t believe I’m this early to a AlternateHistoryHub video, let alone early enough to see the emperor himself! 🙇♂️
Yeet
Indeed.
Ew a neoliberal
But Cody, Ross Perot winning the election would be impossible due to the first past the post system, dragging votes from whatever party it had more ideals with, and let the opposition with different ideals to win a super majority
Modern People: Screw the two party system!
90's People: Hey, we've been saying screw the two party system long before you!
George Washington: Indeed, damn the *PARTY SYSTEM!!*
LOL
Anarchists: Screw the whole system!
@@zachstutzman4059ana-monkerist: screw
Your right washington hated the party system
if i was president i would unironically ban political parties
Its so odd, the 90's and early 2000's feel like an alternate dimension compared to the 2010's and beyond.
It was. The question is how we get back there.
In my view, the entire world basically shifted when 9/11 happened. Anything pre-9/11 is basically like the stone age to me.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 why?
@@misterbooga6466 well, 9/11 made everyone all sad and scared.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 I guess so. But I don’t think we have any reason to be sad or scared
The Reform Party did win an election in our timeline: Jesse Ventura as governor of Minnesota in 1998. Also, Perot placed 2nd in Maine in 1992 with 30% of the vote and Angus King was elected governor there as an independent two years later. So it's definitely possible that with Perot as president, you'd have many more Reform Party victories in state and local elections, and the movement wouldn't have died out as soon as it did.
Minnesotan here. Ventura was actually not too bad of a governor. I wish he would have put in another couple terms. I still have a Jesse Ventura t shirt from that era that has “my governor can beat up your governor” with a caricature of Jesse from his pro-wrestling days. Lol 😂
@@Pretermit_Sounda governor fight between Ventura and Schwarzenegger would be so fun to watch
@@spookyknife4645 it certainly would 😁
Friendly Reminder that 2020 is humanity’s punishment for not clapping
please clap...
Clap because all of this is probably the trailer
Someone forgot that Trump can win 2000 election as candidate of reform
Clap for Jeb or he'll clap your cheeks
Clap for me you stupid bastards
Perot put his money where his mouth was. I respect him for that.
Perot had a lot of things going for him, but when he dropped out of the race at the height of his popularity, that was his death knell. The fact that he got 20% of the vote after showing everyone that he wasn't completely committed to the job is honestly a bit bad ass.
The worst part is he turned out to be absolutely right about our future.
He was definitely a better populist than a fake one.
So do you respect Bloomberg the same way?
@@wyvernlord23 Kinda, I guess? Tbh, Michael Bloomberg was never much on my radar. But I remember Perot's infomercials.
"Did you vote for Ross Perot?"
90's Americans: No
"What did it cost you?"
90's Americans: The Trump - Oprah ticket...
The idea of a reformist party Trump with Oprah as VP made my brain explode. You owe me a new one.
Not really. Trump was always a grifter and opportunist that would say and do anything to get ahead.
Too bad we didnt get this timeline. It would have been great.
FUN FACT: Ross Perot gifted Bernie Sanders a sword.
Ooh that _is_ a fun fact!
Neat
I am not surprised but I am going to have to fact check that.
He has deemed Bernie worthy to be King of America
Based
Fun fact: my dad voted for Ross Perot. So that’s something
One day my kid can proudly say “my dad voted for Kanye.” Here’s lookin at you, kid
@@haloskaterkid I genuinely forgot he even ran for president. Kanye knew it all was a joke
Same
@That Urge what
@@tornn8847 and who could forget presidential candidate Deez Nuts 2016 who in my proud state of North Carolina received 9% of votes. Dads voter savviness is just built different junior ☑️💯
I have to say that it still amazes me how a man could get 19% of the popular vote, literally millions of people on his side, and wining 0 electoral college votes. No one stopped and said, "wait, this is so wrong, a person/party that was voted by 19% of the voting population is not going to be represented at all anywhere, we must change that".
Republican and democrat voters both probably thought "cool the guy stealing votes from my team won't be around to do that" and just let it go, And real politicians wouldn't care for obvious reasons.
POWerless. THose that can change that are the one in power.
It's not that no one stopped to realize. T's that power is held tightly, and those that have it are incentivized to keep their power, and exclude others who would go against his interests
The benefit of the electoral college is that it prevents a tyranny of the majority...although yeah I do recognize that it has lots of problems.
That 19% is not concentrated, it was spread out relatively evenly.
@@kitchenersown The electoral college doesn’t prevent tyranny of the majority at all. Nothing stops Texas, NY, Florida, and California from voting together. It’s just dumb luck that the political situation is as it is, this wasn’t intended when the constitution was written. This is a common misconception with the system
I voted for him next time he ran. I was too young and 92. But, I agree with damn near everything he said. He was right about it all. My fondest memory of him was when he said: “you’re the boss, and I’m Ross.” I bet he thought it was hell to watch every prediction he ever made about all the stuff that was going to go wrong come true. He only died a couple years ago. God rest his soul. He would’ve made one hell of a president.
Ross Perot: Ran on the points that Americans ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT, and lost because he was 3rd Party. I suddenly have more respect for my mother for voting for the guy.
He didn’t lose. The republicrats have been fucking us for years.
@@Thor-Orion that same goes for demoncrats right?
@@Thor-Orion Trump literally has ran on all the points Perot made immigration,China bad, NAFTA renegotiated, Tariffs on corporations taking jobs out of America. If you agree with what perot was saying then your blind and Trump literally is Perot .
@@jamesk5541 There is a difference, Perot isn't Trump and like it was said in the video, Trump wasn't like this when he first got in, the party changed him and he became more extremist, Perot could've done much more things different and he probably would've done things different from Trump.
All that Trump did was watch and writen down Perot's points and then simply use them to his favor in the 2016 election, Trump wasn't Perot, both are different people, who got elected at different times, at different moments of America.
@@brig2564 perot wasn't elected and Trump wasn't extremist he was a realist and got the point out and did what other Republicans were scarred to do. Aswell as the party didn't change him but if your gonna run under the Republican ticket and support universal healthcare you gonna lose the nomination
To explain the Reform Party:
1. Ross Perot believed the two parties shifted too far apart under Kennedy and Reagan and thought the third option should come from the middle.
2. Pat Buchanan thought that the two parties became too similar under Bush and Clinton, and believed that the third option should come from the right.
3. Jesse Ventura agreed with Pat on the parties being too similar under Bush and Clinton, but he believed the third option should come from the left.
Too bad we couldn't have had some sort of Jesse Ventura/Ron Paul fusion campaign at some point after the year 2000.
Jesse's time has come and gone, but I feel like the only way a third party/independent candidate could ever win has to have some status and stature.
@@bullmoosemedia that wouldn't work. Jesse Ventura would just choke the shit out of Ron Paul. Jesse was centrist leftist. Ron Paul is a libertarian republican....bout as far right as Goldwater. They agree on just about nothing.
The Reform Party really was like a jreg video then....
@@michealmcneal2259 they don’t like war
@@michealmcneal2259 That is not true.
Both want to end the wars.
Both want to end the drug war...
There are a lot more similarities out there but I am tired....
True populists actually agree more than they disagree.
It is just a shame the other half they disagree on is unacceptable...to the other side.
My favorite line from Ross Perot during one of the debates was, “I’m all ears”. Unfortunately, prior to this debate much had been made of Mr. Perot’s ears. Thus when he uttered those words the audience in attendance broke into laughter.
Was he not joking at his own expense?
@@Delightfully_Bitchy I don’t think he intended the comment to be self deprecating. Although he immediately laughed it off, he seemed genuinely disappointed that he had chosen that particular phrase-since so many in the media had made the size of his ears a major talking point.
_"All Boats Rise with the Tide"_ was mine.
The only election my grandmother participated in was 92 and she voted Perot. My mom lambasted her for wasting her vote... my mom regrets her words now.
"He opposed the North American Free Trade Agreement"
As a Mexican I kind of wish Perot actually won the US Presidency now.
It really seems like nobody benefited, in the US OR Mexico, from NAFTA except the rich billionaires
@@belgebelgravia100 Welcome to America
@@belgebelgravia100 the fact that it was Bush that started the NAFTA but it was Clinton who had it going, after beating Bush, shows that it was more about interests from others than for the benefit of the many
Don't worry, Trump dissolved NAFTA.
What are you on about? NAFTA benefitted both the US and Mexico greatly
“YOU GET A HEALTHCARE! YOU GET A HEALTHCARE! EVERYBODY GETS A HEALTHCARE!”
-Vice President Oprah
Canada has a healthcare!
@@Cjnw A really crappy healthcare. Oh I know all about it. I broke a bone in Canada and thanks to their WONDERFUL healthcare system, they refused to see me in a timely manner, which it turns out I desperately needed, as the blood supply to the bone was cut off and it died after about 2 days (avascular necrosis). Thanks to Canada. A CIVILIZED country with CIVILIZED healthcare could have treated me.
"Where is the Executive Order? Well, look under the seat because I GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU!"
@@medexamtoolsdotcom Lies
@@lordgemini2376 I had to be amputated because of falling 20 feet into a fire gorge. I broke one of my legs and the lower leg bone shot up through my leg and into my hip, and then I got 3red degree burns on my lower half. They did not see me till 4 hours after I arrived, so I lost more than I should've.
9:25 - 10:29 I...wha...my...WHOLE brain just...BLUESCREEN.
The use of the TH-cam logo as the natzi logo is gold haha
its Nazi
@@metalfalcon4254 Nope. In trying to distract people who might be Nazis, YT just showed how much they were _themselves_ Nazi-esque.
“Basically a jreg video in real life” Oh My God
yeah, i wasn't expecting that reference either lol
Dare I ask who or what "jreg" is?
@@louisduarte8763 He is a weird political TH-camr, I can’t really describe it but look his channel up.
@@louisduarte8763 just look for his channel
@@louisduarte8763 th-cam.com/video/b2BZyD7HdW0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Jreg
"I know the age of my viewers."
I voted for Perot in '92. Am I an anomaly?
Im at least 30 years younger than you and for the comments I deduce almost all have like 5 or 10 years more than me, so I would say that you rigth
I also voted for Perot in '92.
yeeeep...I was 3 years old at the time, and there's a fair chance that the majority of his viewership was born in the 2000s.
I also voted in the 1992 election; it was the second presidential election I was qualified to vote in.
@Eli Wilson I was negative 11
The funny thing is, almost everything he predicted actually came to pass. I live in Texarkana, Tx., his hometown. I drive over the Ross Perot bridge everyday haha
Nafta is what really fucked america. We chose corporate money over our own people
Perot would have had a really good chance if he wasn't in a situation that required him to drop out. He could've gotten 30-40% of the vote, creating a super intense battle.
"The activist is not the man who says the river is dirty. The activist is the man who cleans up the river"... "Had I accepted these exclusive fraternal invitations, I could not run as an independent"...
I feel like Roosevelt's Bull Moose party was probably the first real shot at taking down the established political parties by trying to appeal to both sides. Would be kinda neat if that party was still active and strong today
Except it was basically just a splinter party broken off from a specific faction of the Republicans and all it really did was deliver the election to Woodrow Wilson. Much like Ross Perot's run only really succeeded in handing off the election to Bill Clinton.
@@Monsuco Perot wasn't a spoiler for any one candidate. He drew votes from everybody as he appealed to moderates across the political spectrum. Clinton won a) because H. W. just wasn't popular anymore and b) because HE drew votes from Perot at the last minute by throwing a bone to some of his proposals.
If Theodore Roosevelt did win in 1912, we would have likely seen the GOP enter a era of decline like the Liberals did in England. The Republicans would be a weird kinda Liberal mainly popular in New England & upstate New York, some Western farming communities and the Jello belt. With the Progressives replacing them as the leading left of center party. Roosevelt would still probably go into World War 1 at some point and we may have joined the league of Nations. But perhaps after the chaos of post war America, a Northern democrat would win in 1920 on a platform of normalcy like the Republicans did in 1920 as well and more or less American political life would play out the same as it did OTL with the Progressives being the main Liberal party and the Democrats being more or less dominated by Southern conservatives. With maybe the Republicans being a a radical centrist alternative like a larger more complement version of the libertarians.
I hate politics because of the party system. Its really annoying that we can't escape it because so many people either vote straight-ticket for a single party because they want to or because they have no faith in the chance we could choose someone actually helpful. Like many others here, I hate this horrid timeline we were thrown into and want to be in the one presented in the video
My wife and I think we need to draw names out of a hat to get our legislators and executives.
It can't be much worse than we have now.
@@grantjohnson5785 careful what you say, you might jinx it. Still, not a bad idea.
@@nathanfish1998 There'd be some qualifications. It's still fairly rough, but here's the idea:
1. Single terms in each position only; no career politicians in that regard.
2. While you serve, your normal job is held for you, just like for jury duty. While you serve, your salary is the same as you earned at home, though with a modest stipend for housing in the state/federal capital as needed, transportation, staff, etc.
3. You can refuse any position you feel is beyond your ability, or that you do not desire.
4. Additional qualifications are necessary for certain positions, for example: MD to be coroner, JD to be an elected prosecutor, defender, or judge, engineering degree to be a county engineer, etc.
5. You have to serve in local/county gov't first. For your name to go in that "hat" you need to be 18 and have high school diploma or the equivalent, IQ of at least 95 (so at least "average"), and no felony record (even as a juvenile).
6. After you've served in local gov't, your constituents vote on your performance. If you have a job performance >50%, your name goes into the state "hat". Minimum IQ requirement goes up by 5 as well. (You can retest at any time.)
7. After you've served in state gov't, your constituents vote on your performance. If you have a job performance >50%, your name goes into the US House "hat".
8. After you've served in the US House, your constituents vote on your performance. If you have a job performance >60%, your name goes into the Senate "hat" 5 years after you leave office; same process for going from Senate to POTUS/VP.
9. Judges follow a parallel system; local to state to federal. SCOTUS, once selected, remain for life but have their job performance evaluated every 5 years. Any with job performance
Yeah iv been voting 3rd party for a few terms now. Dems and republicans are completly incompetent
*Proportional Representation.* Not only for US but also for the UK. First-Past-The-Post gave them Brexit, gave US Trump. Lesson Learned? Not for two countries who are too in love with Horse Races as Elections where _everybody_ loses.
He wasn't a third party, he wasn't in a party at all.
First person I ever voted for at 18
If he hadn't dropped from the race and come back, he would have won the popular vote. Though I don't know how you get delegates without a party
Id honestly prefer this timeline. Just so we could have a fighting chance at ending the two party divide eventually.
frankly i wish all parties to be abolished and just have candidates run on their policies alone instead of platforms
@@OlEgSaS32 The reason that will never happen is that they do not have enough confidence that people will donate as much as they do fired up for one party or another.
@@OlEgSaS32 then only millionaires could run since parties also fund candidates.
@@ohiotoledo3787 i know, i know, i just wish we didnt structure our political system like that, they need money for ads, rallies, etc or else they would absolutely be lost in the void to everyone, and that shouldnt be, but it is what it is
With first past the post voting if a third party brute-forced their way in it would just end up knocking one of the others out. We have to change to something like ranked choice voting for us to actually have a chance to have more parties.
It actually blows my mind that Trump was running on some of the same issues Bernie was only 20 years ago. Crazy where the grift can take you.
Nah Biden become candidate plus he was smart that republicans was angry becouse Obama that used them for support
Eh it's more how cultural war can go. Bush's presidency started this crap, Obama's feed it and Trump himself just made it a permanent cancer.
The only people winning right now are preformance activist who get to pretend they are doing shit while we are burn under a Neoliberal hell.
People seem to forget that Trump was actual a liberal Democrat until 2008 because of his Obama hate.
As the video points out, he was actually, pro-gun control, pro-universal healthcare.
He was however and still is an asshole.
It would be great if someone could make a video of 2000 Trump debating 2020 Trump.
@@bullmoosemedia Yeah, honestly all this just feeds my theory that Donald has had some degree of mental degradation since the early 2000's, and the parts of him that had some level of decency have just been eroded away.
@@bullmoosemedia is crazy how one person basicly destroyed everything to make a rise A madman whose nobady expected and change one party forever (Obama )
I paused after trumps policies to ssay "what", then the video said "WHAT?!"
I actually used him winning as an alternate history for my book that I'm writing. It doesn't take center stage but acts as an explanation for why things are different in my world lol.
Imagine if a supporter of Trump from this alternate dimension came to ours. It would be like the mirror universe from Star Trek
True, I support Trump (as long as he doesnt betray his principles anyway) as of now but what a shock.
I already knew that Trump was far more of a 90's democrat/paleo-con (my knowledge on these terms is limited honestly) than neo-con but what a change of policy he made he made from the 90's to now.
Maybe we would even avoid the clusterfuck that is the 2020 election and the media would be less biased, which would certainly make America less divided (which is good).
@@anelbegic2780 yup I wish the media wouldn’t separate Americans because we are all Americans in the end we all want the best for this country it doesn’t matter if the opposite side won because In the end we will be fine
Uh, no; it would just be any run of the mill alternate universe; it would in no way be the horror that is the Mirror Universe.
In fact, it's closer that our world is slowly turning to become the Mirror Universe; the Globalists are eager to institute a global tyranny, that can easily turn into an empire.
@@anelbegic2780 hey if Trump passed universal healthcare, a single payer system, I’d get on boadd
Funny you should mention that. I want to write a very funny story about The reason behind not letting certain universes be aware of other universes. The bare bones of the story is this: “At one point during our travels through alternate universes, We happened upon a universe which had experienced the alternate historical events needed for Alaska to have been owned by Russia, its resources utilized almost exclusively by them. We were able to see many amazing things during our time in the universe. Version of call of the wild written by Leo Tolstoy. Memorials to the fallen Romanov dynasty. Inuit natives able to converse with the public at large and each other in perfect Russian. Russian orthodox churches adorning the skyline of Anchorage. It truly was most beautiful. We were amazed by how such a tiny event could do so many interesting things to a region, and to American history at large, until one day we made the mistake of telling another universe what we saw. Everyone was quite intrigued until we made the mistake of letting it slip that, for the lack of money acquired by the Klondike Gold Rush, Transsouth Legacy, his businesses, indeed his presidency has been removed from history. Realizing that there was a universe in which Donald Trump was never important enough to be anything, people began to travel to that universe on mass, effectively emptying their own universe of any and all Democratic voters. This intern, cost for a major inbalance in this universe in political circles, causing a persistent and perpetuating one party government to remain in effect to this day.”
Fun fact: My great grandpa was best friends with Ross Perot when they went to the Naval Academy together
Very cool
Fun fact: Opra can do ANYTHING
That is a fun fact
My first vote was for Perot. If any of you kids have never seen one of those infomercials, you should check it out. Today's politicians could learn something from such a down to earth approach and the internet makes it where they don't have to be billionaires to buy the TV time today. One thing I'll never forget is him going over healthcare and showing how much less other countries paid for better results. His answer, just do what those countries are doing.
Watching this, I'm remembering the '04 election (I was 3) and seeing my mom with an "I voted sticker" and me asking what a political party is...
Now I'm thinking of an alternate scenario where my mom would be talking about that "third party that has miraculously gained enough momentum that it actually holds seats in congress."
Imma just save y’all some time and summarize the video:
Jeb comes outta nowhere and wins the 2000 election and becomes galactic emperor of the known universe
I STRONGLY DISAGREE! Being as famous as I am on TH-cam, I know that it gets hard to read every comment I get. I try my best, but I am just so famous, that I can't do it much longer. Sorry, dear aeja
And thus he finally achieves his ultimate dream, as the whole galaxy claps for him
Emperor of Mankind you mean
So the only difference is that Jeb becomes God emperor 24 years earlier?
@@AxxLAfriku I just scrolled through your channel for a few seconds.
You are somehow everything that's wrong with the modernday, the personification of 2007 internet, and have the talent of a rage comic.
Well, for a while Ross Perot had been leading in the polls, so he may have had a good shot at winning. Dropping out did hurt him though
He and his family was threatened repeatedly so I totally get it....
@@bullmoosemedia Should not have taken those threats seriously.Even if he was killed,a whole new era would begin,with new parties.People would come to understand that the democrats and republicans have monopolised everything and would not anyone interfere in their war for power.Perot tried to but as you said,gave up.Had he not dropped either he would be president or a nation hero.If the latter happened,l expect an anti establishment revolution would happen and the 2 party system would be gone.
@@bullmoosemedia I get why he did it, but afterwards there was no way that people would trust him to stay the course the next time things got tough. It's pretty common for powerful politicians to get death threats. It's not pretty, but it's the way the game is played, and if he couldn't handle it he honestly shouldn't have run in the first place.
@@albanian_barcelona_fan I am not sure if you are on a fever dream or not but most likely none of that would have happen if he was killed as many people saw him as buying his way towards it and even if the 2 parties we currently have ,2 other will take their place not matter what it be the lion and tiger parties as having 2 parties is pretty engrained into the american system.
I was a teenager when Perot ran. But nobody I've talked to my age or older remembers him.
All Perot would have needed to do was stay in the campaign from start to finish instead of dropping out from June to September. We all loved him, he was winning in June when he suddenly made up a crazy sounding excuse and dropped out for three months.
The libertarian party was probably a bit pissed when this dude got 19% vote
Harry Browne was pretty good
For many years, I kinda assumed Perot was libertarian (i.e. fiscally conservative and socially liberal).
@Mike H When I think of extremist libertarianism, I think of ancaps.
You know, more like Timothy McVeigh and less like Anders Breivik.
@@knightwing5169 That is more accurate. You could also think of Ansocs, though they're less common.
@@shahrikamin4699 ansoc as in anarcho socialists?
Can you do "What if terrorists successfully destroyed the World Trade Center during the 1993 bombing?"
Maybe the war on terror would have began a decade before
I can tell you already that if the 93 bombing were successful, since the terrorists' intention was to have one of the towers fall onto the other, bringing them both down and all over Lower Manhattan, and given that the the North Tower was 1,368ft (not counting it's antenna mast) and the South Tower was just very slightly shorter at 1,362ft, the amount of damage and death this would've caused all over Lower Manhattan would be MUCH worse than what we got on 9/11, how much worse is up for debate.
@@dentonscheibal3 Well, first, no one would be able to evacuate, since it would be almost instantly, so all people in both towers would be effectively lost. Add a couple of buildings full of people, and yeah, easily double the amount of people dead.
@@Saiyan0X 50,000 people worked in both towers. It could’ve easily exceeded 20,000 deaths if done on a busy work day
@@BradyBadlyAnimates It was a Friday and 1217 local , so neither the busiest day and timed to when those that take lunch at all would have been at lunch. But not just office workers would be dead, there would have been some tourists as well.
these videos have the most rewatch value ive ever seen on youtube
Texans all know Ross Perot. Great man and very data driven. Turns out he was right on basically every point....
Proud to say my mom was in that 19% who voted for Perot
Same with my mom. She heard him speak at an event in my hometown back in '91 or '92.
Both of my folks.
Same here, even though my mom always voted for the Democratic candidate otherwise. And I really don't think it was impossible for Ross Perot to have won. If his campaign had picked up momentum, and had had no setbacks, he could have gained 25% of of popular opinion, then leading to 35% or maybe 40% (as much as Lincoln won) by Election Day, and still won the Electoral College.
@@benpholmes His campaign had momentum and was leading all polls until he pulled out. When he reentered the race he never regained the lead in the polls. Clinton was elected with a plurality, not a majority, of the vote.
@@davidrox4591 Exactly. Although honestly I didn't remember Perot actually being ahead in the polls, but that was a long time ago and I was barely paying attention back then. So I definitely think Cody is wrong to say that there's no way Perot ever could have won.
You telling me we could've had a 2016 Trump that taxed the rich and pushed for universal healthcare?
I hate this timeline.
I still might not have supported him, though, if he didn't have a robust climate plan. And I don't know if he would be as divisive or not in the way he goes about things.
@jp two party systems, sadly
Perot was far from Trump...Perot had actual policy ideas.
Trump had horrible ideas before he ran in 2016.
Trump would still be a narcissistic asshole, but rather than buying adulation via xenophobia and pushing hatred, he'd buy it by actually helping Americans? I'd wear a MAGA hat for that.
Ross Perot, one of the very few billionares to actually give a toss about the working class. While there are some issues I don't agree with him on, I must commend him for that.
Bro this was a great video!!!
I feel like the “three party system” would only last about a decade. If the reform party got a foothold in politics it would only be a matter of time before either the democrat or Republican Party would falter to the wayside like Whigs or Federalists. It would be back to the same two party system in a matter of time after Perot leaves office, with the both two parties radically changing to fit their respective places like the democrats and republicans do now.
That’s just my theory, thanks for watching my ted talk
Yeah. I mean that's how the relevant parties change. FPF just can't accommodate three parties for long
Or perhaps a full on election reform would destroy Republicans and Democrats for good and create multiple European style parties.
@@ostrobothnian9995 most of Europe has only 2 major parties its just their third party have more influence
@@dustinobrien7970 Actually UK is pretty much only country in europe (and atleast EU) with non multi-party system
Or if the Reform Party actually managed to find the center between the Republicans and Democrats and get the same amount of voters from both parties there could have been a strange one party system where one centrist mega party swallowed up anyone moderate enough to pose it any challenge. Very unlikely but interesting to imagine.
I'm still recovering from April's "Election What If?" video…
The world that was meant to be
Still longing for Jebruary
Galactic Overlord Jeb Bush
Was that the one where Jeb Bush became Emperor of Mankind
@@FlyingAlfredoSaucer yes.
Thank you for your love of Ross Perot. That was my favorite insult to my big ears 😂😂. Great video also
I've heard of Ross Perot, but I was three in 1992, so I had no idea about that election. Thanks for the history
“All extremes are on the same team.”
- Ross Perot, 1992
Except in the way that proves horseshoe theory
I wasn't prepared to see a Jreg reference.
AltHistoryHub has been a sub since the start of Centricide, at least.
It's time to Jreg. Lets Jreg, everybody!
100th like
I think Alternate History Hub has commented on a few of his recent videos.
Cody's even one of Jreg's Patreon members.
Thank you youtube context, very cool
I often wonder what would have happened if Gore won in 2000 as well. It's amazing but also kinda scary to think that just one small change in the timeline can create an entirely different future.
What if Borat Sagdiyev won the 2008 presidential election?
Very nice!
Is what.
this should be a HOI4 mod
We won't have COVID since Borat's boss wouldn't get mad. Also, Rudy Guiliani could have sexy time with reporters in hotels without anyone knowing.
If Perot has run with a strong running mate and hadn’t, yknow, dropped out, he would have had a serious chance at winning in 92.
He was set to win and all... Until he dropped out
We need a populist fusion party.
It would still be a long shot, but yes a chance
And considering that he dropped out on something never proven, it’s quite possible that there were scandals of his we never saw
I voted for Ross Perot also, back in "92. Too bad most voters are creatures of habit and just keep voting for the same ol' same ol' every election. Hard to believe that if Perot had won, he'd now been an EX- president for twenty years!
That is precisely why I hate it when people don't watch the debates or do any sort of independent research on candidates and then say "hurrr, I just voted the party line".
Seriously, you have no idea how many people I yelled 'BAAAA' at, reminding them that party line voters are nothing more than sheeple.
@@SonicSlicer While it was probably less important in 92, in 2021 voting for a moderate candidate is complete idiocy. Unless you literally just want the reds to win, you vote blue, because party loyalty is such that the red president will always work in red interests, it barely matters what they actually say. Besides, its the difference between the utter psycopaths and the uncaring corporatists, theres never going to be a choice when your "choice" is to get the bad to win, or allow the much much worse to win. Also, Your vote doesnt mean shite mate. He got 19% of the popular vote and dick in the house. Why? Because its always going to be that way. He could have gotten 60% and the house still wouldnt have allowed him to be president.
Never thought I’d agree so much with an early 2000’s Trump
And only goes to show that we're stuck with trickle down economic and the oligarchy. Who was the last presidential candidate from either party that advocated for Demand side economics? Both parties prevent change, and keep funneling up the wealth with Trickle down economics.
@@abeertariq1051 Supply Side Economics is not Trickle Down Economics. If you believe it is, then you have been mislead.
@@CaliMeatWagon supply side economics isn't worth bringing up because we've never implemented it in the way the theorists proposed. As I said in another comment, Reagan used it to enrich the rich. We need Demand side economics.
Interesting to see, but I really doubt that he would have actually implemented those policies, even back then.
Fr Im like based Trump wtf
- Universal Health care
- Taxing the 1%
- Banning assault rifles
- Oprah as Vice
Me and also this vid: *WHAT?!*
If only he was still the same.
1. ✔ healthcare should be privatized
2. No it's counter productive
3. ✔ not on appearance but rather on performance and ammo
4. No, why?
"Assualt Weapons" is a bullshit term, and all gun control is bullshit as well, but I can take the rest.
@joke card agreed, I support Trump but if he actually said that seriously and meant it, what a fucking brainfart did he have to think of such an good idea?
@@angushughes5371 honestly though I need to ask what does a person need an assault weapon for exactly
Hunting I get and protection(like something basic) I can agree with but why that?
I like the Jreg reference. You're a man of culture Cody.
*Tips fedora*
I’m pretty sure he even supports Jreg on patreon too, surprised they haven’t collaborated
Two party systems are something you really can’t escape.
I don’t have the capability to explain it. But many countries started as a multiparty state. But math shows that eventually it will always end with a two party system
However. This is quite astonishing. Love the video!
Unless your England than you have the Queen
@@phoenixrising4995 sad that this is the first thing that came to your mind, because the UK has a real interesting thing going on with its party system.
true, only two parties have won government in the past century (Conservatives and Labour) but they constantly have little fires lit under them by the many other parties that get elected.
the Liberal Democrats, the traditional third party, won enough seats in 2010 that they got to actually be in government.
the Scottish Nationalists have slowly gained support starting in the 70s or 90s to the point that they got that independence referendum in 2014. they lost that one, but to this day they have most of the Scottish seats in Westminster.
not to mention that in 2015, UKIP siphoned enough votes from the Conservatives that they got a referendum in 2016 about the UK's status in the European Union.
_Brexit happened because of a third party._
Actually, Denmark is a multiparty coalition system. The Danish constitution states that no political party can hold more than 2% of the total available seats in the Foketing (Danish version of congress). It is entirely possible. That whole math thing is a cop out. The whole reason why our two party system is so entrenched here in the US is due entirely to the existence of the electoral college. It is literally a self imposed system. It won't change because all the people in power benefit from it and most of the rest of the masses just blindly accept it.
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A Perot presidency may not have been amazing seeing as he’d have no allies in government, but I certainly would have voted for him.
He could use his billions to threaten to unseat anyone who opposed his agenda with attack ads in the midterms
If he'd won then they'd give him the Trump treatment. That's how the establishment deals with outsiders.
So Perot’s Reform Party harkens back to the Rough Rider himself. Economic progressive reforms while also mercantilist.
Ah the Moose!
Bully, a challenge I love competition!
@@zachstutzman4059 a man of culture I see
Please make a sequel to this.
Thank you for the smiling friends lore video
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What if akhenaten's religious revolution succeeded?
Even on other people's videos I am beset upon by scenario suggestions. Such is the blessing and curse of an alternate historian.
@@MonsieurDean its a very interesting timeline, monotheism become populare in egypt in the mid 14th century BC, during the late bronze age, how would that efect egypt and its area?, how would that change history?, and how the religion would spred to other places?
@@MonsieurDean f sorry for that pal
Ancient World scenarios are always a blast. Will make a note of it! 👍
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. - Harvey Dent
I have an original 1922 Morgan silver dollar coin, just like Harvey's. Pretty kool. Use it to flip as my lucky coin
@@backwoodsjunkie08 Just don't get half your face burnt off or get involved in the political climate of a crime ridden city, and things will turn out fine.
I love that you used Arc De Soleil for background music around 10:30 they’re the best psychedelic funk band ever but nobody has ever heard of them
Actually voted for him. Felt he was one of the few businessmen that actually could have made things work as a president.
The reform party sounds like the inspiration for NPP in TNO
@asuka lamely Given the absolute state of the community, hopefully not
@asuka lamely True, but this is a community where someone has made a hoodie with a Nazi war criminal on it . Plus Cody had problems when he did the Kaiserreich video.
What is TNO?
@@MatanVil The new order: last days of Europe . It's a mod for the strategy gamer hearts of iron 4 and it's set in an alternate 1962 with a cold war between Japan, Germany and the USAm
@@MatanVil universe where Germany won WW2, known for being very critical of fascism and showing it's horrors in a very eye opening way
Hell yeah Bill Clinton plays the sax!
We're Animaniacs!
*China*
@@cranjusmcbasketball2052 yeah i'm pretty sure he did her too.
Hell yeah Bill Clinton gets Impeached for lying under oath!
There’s bologna in our slacks
Why is this the one thing from the 90s we haven't brought back?!
We probably would have had quite a different country today.
The dude literally had an economist as his running mate.
He would have been an amazing president, and my generation probably would not have been so damned apathetic towards democracy, and all the good it has the ability to produce.
I voted for him in 96
He likely would have been a bad president.
@@kordellswoffer1520 I disagree. Why would you say that? Have you read about him sending in his cavalry to take his staff in Iran, overland, out of harms way just before the Iranian hostage crisis? Yes, he did even go over himself at some risk, no doubt, there was a book written about it. Hiliary Clinton was your foreign secretary at the time, she could not, or would not, see the danger to the U.S embassy staff, they were held hostage for a long, long time. I do believe Ross Perot may well have been the best president you never had. Were you around at that time? A very difficult chapter for the U.S.A.
@@open-minded-oldie him sending people to Iran is meaningless as it pertains to be a president and Hillary has little to do with the conversation.
He would have been a bad president because he be ineffective and ubable to get his agenda done because he's not part of any main party and his agenda itself is bad and would make him a bad president. America would have been better served from another Reagan presidency and he was suffering from early on set dementia.
@@kordellswoffer1520 That"s interesting. To me, getting his workers out of Iran before the hostage crisis, it showed he cared about his staff. It says a lot about his character. That is worth it"s weight in gold for a mans integrity, plus, the most important part---------- they all ended up in a place of safety, so it was a success. Surely an able man is better than an incompetant one? I only mention Hiliary to make the point about his ability to get important things done, having forseen problems. When i say "The Cavalry" i did not mean U.S troops. Yes, you are probably right about him trying to get various laws passed with great difficulty but i don"t feel his agenda was bad.
AHH: **talks about people loosing jobs**
The background: skoobee due 📈
The whole deal with trump is a complete mind bender. I knew he used to be more moderate but knowing why and how is crazy. Good video.
He still is more (although obiously less than in the 90's and 2000's) moderate than he let on in his 2016 run before he became president if you can cut through the crap the media was printing about him and actually get to what "he" was saying.
In fact, he tried to impliment a few policies Cody mentioned in the video during his run as president was told no by mostly the democrats and media, but also the republicans sometimes as well.
Trump shifted from wanting to tax the 1% to cutting the 1% taxes. At it's core, the republican party is focussed on helping the already rich, everything else is secondary.
I actually feel like he was used by the republicans to get their tax cuts and reduced consumer, environment and personal protections through. Notice how the only major policy he passed in the first 2 years was a tax cut for the wealthy? That's on purpose.
@@letsburn00 So basically he was a tool used to serve R and its backers' interests. Gee I wonder what happens if somehow in 2016 he won as third party or even D?
@@ArcturusOTE Pretty much. Trump is largely driven by his ego. That actually can be a positive thing if your heart and information is good. The best Australian prime minister in the last 20 yrs was famously a massive egotistical asshole. He got removed by his own party after 2 years. It was claimed because he was an asshole, but really it was because he actually fought entrenched interests and people with their noses at the trough on both sides of politics wanted him gone, so a good chunk of the corperate media were totally hostile. But in the end, it looks like he was basically 100% right.
Sadly, Trump appears to be very easily manipulated by his advisers and the right wing media. His main stupider aspects of policy look to me more like "forwards from grandma" stuff that he doesn't know it's nonsense. But he's still the president, the buck stops with him. He has no one to blame but himself for hiring bad advisers and taking bad advice.
@@letsburn00 which pm?
5:14 : Represents a Political faction
TH-cam : Hi Cody, you have been Demonetized
That Futurama clip caught me off guard. LOL!
Dude if Ross Perot ran today he'd probably win SOMETHING
That would be interesting since he is deceased.
@@Scrapmanluke1 yeah I think he meant in 2016 or he's just not searching much up
Maybe not. RP was just too brash, harsh for the general public. I liked him but he was like a neighbor everyone knew was aloof but nice.
@@DavidLLambertmobile so basically like trump
2016 would be the best
honestly surprised trump didnt get whiplash by how drastic his political opinion changed between his run in 2000 and 2016
He did. Remember the Republican Primary debates? Guys like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio heavily criticized Trump for his previous leftist policies as well as his friendships with some Democrats. To be honest, Trump’s policies changed for the better though.
@@bjehulk facts
@@bjehulk "Changed for the better"
How can people unironically think this? If trump stuck with his 2000 run platform, I might have even considered voting for him. He abandoned everything great in favor of the southern strategy.
Which of course assumes he was honest about it - guy's a habitual liar after all.
Trump has seriously been screwed over in terms of policy by the fact that he had to run as a Republican. I still think he would push in public healthcare if he could hes just "not allowed" to do it. He should have turned against the Republican establishment after being elected and built up his own party over the past 4 years
The camera lingered just a bit too long and too hard on Jeb, please don't tease us with 8 years of JEB! We could only dream so much.
/guac
I actually met Ross Perot at his museum in Dallas once.
Really interesting about the Trump part. Had no idea about his policies before joining the Republican party
Edit: Oh god, I've started a war.
It is so interesting to hear Trump’s liberal policies too. How times have change.
Many of said policies are still alive
But you wouldn't hear that with 93% negative coverage. Going as far as to push conspiracy theories like Russia for 3 years
I mean you haven't realized? The man could cure cancer single-handedly and the Media would scream how Cancer is good and he's a racist sexist blah blah blah for curing it
@@commisaryarreck3974 Even if what he believed back then is still something he believes, the "93% negative coverage" is honestly deserved. I keep hearing "If he cured cancer single-handedly people would still hate him! If he saved Obama's life people would still hate him! If he solved world hunger people would still hate him-" NO. Look, you can't say any of that because he *Hasn't cured cancer single-handedly.* And even if he was physically capable, he likely wouldn't give it to anyone because he cares more about money than the people. People constantly call him racist, misogynistic, scammy, demented, scummy, greedy, xenophobic, etc etc *because he is.* He's done a FEW good things, maybe, but most of the good stuff he's done is actually just stuff he stole credit for from other politicians and previous presidents. Even if he has done a few things, that doesn't change the fact that he's ruined and indirectly ended hundreds of lives. Hitler did some good things - he's still Hitler.
@@maxtube1952 So you think Trump would've remained unpopular even if he implemented more socially liberal policies?
Idk about that but he'd probably be less divisive about it had he become more centrist-ish during his reign.
@@ArcturusOTE Maybe, maybe not. All I know is he's a horrible president, pathetic businessman and just generally really...dull. The fact that people defend him still, knowing these things, is ludicrous to me. I don't care for what could've been - this is who he is.
>"before Bernie"
>it's the 1990's
> *laughs in empty house floor speeches*
Man we have been feeling the burn for a while
@you're in mandomI mean, at the very least, he is running as a Democrat, which at least gives him a much better shot at presidency than third party.
Also, no one plans to lose, there still might've been a chance for Bernie if Warren had just dropped out and endorsed him before super tuesday.
@you're in mandom Indeed
@you're in mandom Ah yes, the man who tried to reform policy so a gfc could never happen again shills for the establishment.
If you hate compromise and don't believe in anything ever getting done, go vote greens.
"before Bernie was a thing"
I wonder who else like him we missed out on?
I love your videos and have been for 6ish years. I have an idea for a future video if you could find a way to make it. I'm suggesting Project A119, A Study of Lunar Research Flights from 1958. I find it facinatingthat it was a serious idea being brought about through the US government.
nice vid
I love how your channel has, at the same time, both gotten more shitposty and more informative. No where else do you see deep political analysis combined with Jreg and Political Compass Memes.
He's starting a new channel called Pointless Hub for "reviews, nostalgia shit, game shit. Talk about topics like. Goofy Movie. Spyro. Jojo. 90s Disaster Movies. Musicals."
-and also there's shitpost hub but shh nobody knows about that-
@@artistwithouttalent Hmm?
@@themadkraken1912 Tldr he has a new channel for miscellaneous talk
Political Compass Memes is where politics goes to die. Any time you visit that subreddit your IQ drops by 2 points.
I know who ross Perot is, hes was played by a little girl with rubber ears on Nickelodeon tv show ALL THAT in the 90s.
Yes! That is all I can think of when I try to picture him.
"I got 4 billion dollars"
@@chris7263
It is the best impression of Ross Perot ever.
Heeeeee hee hee hee hee hee
@@STAROMEGA54 And Dana Carvey's wasn't?
True Story: My parents, in 1992 at Halloween, went to a Halloween party dressed as "Perot-Bots."
In their defense, my parents are very politically charged on both sides. In 2017, my mom went as a low-level news reporter named "Phache News" (who would subsequently give out falsified news stories that were clearly lower than tabloid level), and my dad went as a Russian hacker. My parents' friends also held some... odd parties, like a "Dead Man's Party," inspired by Oingo Boingo's song of the same name.
I like your parents xD
I remember seeing Perot t-shirts when I was a kid!