Funny Valentine obtains the power to redirect America's misery/calamity or whatever to other countries, which as a non american I can confirm both parties would do this, but the Democrats would pretend to be apologetic about it.
northern democrats existed, and while they were probably more likely to desert or live in counties and regions that ignored the draft, plenty of northern democrats would have fought in union forces, reluctantly or not. the first three volunteer generals appointed by lincoln were democrats. northern democrats were pretty fractured by the civil war, and plenty opposed slavery, secession, etc. look up “war democrats”
I've just realised that Funny Valentine, who needs to be 'between two things' to use his powers, sits as President between two terms of Grover Cleveland
More seriously, with regard to Mike O, a good analogy could be William Slade, Lincoln's usher and valet, and a free-born black man working in the President's staff in the 1860s. I don't believe Mike ever wields a knife or gun on-panel, meaning from the perspective of normal people he isn't even an armed guard but simply a manservant.
@@High56278that would be if sbr took place during 2020-2024, but since it’s the 1890s then it’d be between 2 clevelands. would be funny to get sbr 2 with trump cameos
He could be like Bernie Sanders where he's basically a third party/independent but running as one of the main two parties because third party candidates never become president
Jonathan was probably a Tory bcs of the whole landowning noble thing but could've been a Liberal due to how he was as a person. Dio was probably a Tory because he was a huge asshole who wanted money and power. He'd have invented the modern Conservatives had he been a politician.
There's a chance that he was part of the Liberals as some nobles supported that party and I would think that due to his character he would at least be pro-reform.
funny being not too far off from benjamin harrison would have to be the case since in the jojolands jodio goes to a high school named after president mckinley, who came after harrison and whose administration annexed hawaii. what i’m really curious about is who funny’s vice president would be since they would have to take his spot after johnny kills him.
probably one of the other stand users funny valentine had yet to send out to kill johnny and gyro like how dio probably had many other stand users he yet to have send out or the vice president is a alternate universe smokey
@@edixonvc5101 I mean given what stands can do maybe Benjamin Harrison's got a Stand and his Stand DOES basically redact people from history (and living memory). Or Johnny was so angry that he managed to memoryhole Valentine's existence
I think Funny Valentine does have right-wing politics, he definitely has things that make him more center-right But he definitely was a Republican, but with probably less extreme right-wing positions than the democrats
@@vincentriegelblaesing1685 if I remember correctly, wasn’t Nixon the first modern Republican, what with the southern strategy? Up until that point it’s hard to place any candidate in a modern party because views were a bit shuffled
To get a more realistic answer, it is clear funny valentine is a nationalist and a libertarian (modern right leaning), that aspect of the Republican Party hasn't really been altered since its conception since the civil war with the free soilers and stuff making the majority of the party and wanting the Union to prosper. Heck the whole obtaining the corpse parts is just an alternate skin of "manifest destiny"
@@josukehigashikata9551 the democrats literally split into the rep and demonstrates parties based upon how they wanted to enact manifest destinies. Know-nothings, free soilers, and even whigs (who are democrats) would formed the rep party. the rep party in early 1800s technically didn't exist yet. but its very free soiler in thought process, specially with the context of the napkin speech
Valentine being an Union veteran for the Civil War also strongly leans him to be a Republican based on simple voting patterns at the time. Also, the Republican Party was not "left wing" in anyway, aside from abolitionism, wherein after that issue was settled they became strongly in the right. The Republicans under McKinley were pretty much pro business(which is why they were isolationist) and expansionist, annexing Hawaii, the Philippines and Puerto Rico for example. Ironically, Republicans were anti free trade since they believed that it would hurt domestic industry, an idea that is only making a comeback. Theodore Roosevelt, a republican, was domestically progressive but he was a war hawk and anti immigration. It was the Democrats who gradually adopted left wing ideas basically adopting patronage politics
If you look at it one way, the parties never changed. The Republicans have always been the party of "Everyone should have the same chance to pull up their boot straps and earn their own living." In the 1800s, that meant giving Blacks the chance to be equal. In the modern world, that means not giving special treatment to minorities. The difference is that meant elevating some to not elevating others, as the nation became more equal. The Democrats have always been the party of White Savior-ism. In the 1800s, that meant it was their "right" to control the Minority populations on plantations to make a lot of money, supposedly for their own good. In the modern world, it means providing monetary hand-outs and group identities to control Minority populations in city slums to make a lot of money, supposedly for their own good. The difference is that they traded Fear and Chains for Greed and Peer Pressure. Republicans: "Get out and work for it, pansy." Democrats: "We're from the Government and we're here to help."
@@ARKHAM367 by and large yes but change was already happening. Let’s start from the beginning. The original two major American parties were the federalists and the Democratic-Republicans who we’ll just call DemPubs. Federalists were generally based on the eastern seaboard and in large cities which favored a more centralized government such as the ideals men like Alexander Hamilton promoted. The DemPubs supported more decentralized state powers and were lead by Jefferson. Ultimately after Jefferson defeated John Adams (the only official federalist president) in 1800, the DemPubs dominated politics for the next 3 decades and saw the federalists dissolve complete In 1832 we saw another major realignment. Because former federalists essentially joined the DemPubs along with it being a national party, many felt the party lost its Jeffersonian identity, the most prominent being Andrew Jackson. Jackson was a self made man and frontiersman who believed in the vision of Jeffersonian democracy. He used his status as a war hero to launch a political career and eventually ran for president as one of four DemPubs. Despite winning both a plurality of the popular and electoral college vote, Jackson wouldn’t enter the White House and instead John Quincy Adams, son of former federalist John Adams, won via a dealing in congress. This lead to jackson leaving the DemPubs and establishing the Democratic Party, the same party that stands today. Jackson essentially evolved the Jeffersonian ideal, maintaining the belief of limited federal power but promoting democracy of the common man, something Jefferson initially promoted but slowly phased out. He supported further enfranchisement of whites and expansion into western territories along with a reduction of tariffs and stopping national infrastructure projects. Despite his opposition to federal power, critics compared Jackson to a king due to his liberal usage of the veto and the Whig party was born from anti jackson dissenters. The Whigs were essentially spiritual successors to Federalists supporting a stronger federal government and higher tariffs to protect industries. However the Whigs would never really consolidate their base and kept nominating old dudes who died in office leading to mediocre VPs to succeed them and as such the Whigs faded into obscurity. Many Whigs either rejoined the democrats or formed a new party. By 1840, slavery was the new hot topic. This lead to the formation of the Republican Party. Although discussions were about slavery there was greater economic philosophies at hand. Republicans like the federalists and Whigs were concentrated in cities and as such supported mercantilism plans of high tariffs. Lincoln himself had been a former Whig and apprentice of Henry Clay the former party leader. It’s also worth mentioning most people who were anti slavery weren’t necessarily pro equal rights and in fact often proposed colonization to remove blacks from the country. After the civil war, republicans dominated politics and maintained high tariffs for the benefit of big business. Likewise after reconstruction ended they’d drop any pretexts of supporting African Americans. Democrats for the most part didn’t really change still supporting free trade. During the gilded age, Grover Cleveland would be the only democrat elected and enacted low tariff but pro business policies. In terms of expansionism, both parties were split but the democrats were generally more isolationist than republicans with Cleveland rejecting annexation of Hawaii but would be completed by his successor Benjamin Harrison. Then we get to the progressive era and again both parties had progressive factions in response to the rise of corporate power. Theodore Roosevelt who was a Republican became the first progressive president and began cracking down on monopolies. His successor Taft would continue the policy even more effectively but political squabbles lead to Roosevelt splitting. During this period the democrats were transmogrifying thanks to the de facto leader former Nebraska congressman William Jennings Bryan who steered the party away from the laisses-faire leadership of Cleveland and again to support progressivism. Keep in mind progressive here means expansion of government power into every aspect of life, including the rise of eugenics as a means of population control and being anti-immigrant and pro assimilation. Similarly progressives were split on imperialism. This leads to Wilson who after a successful term as governor ran for president and was endorsed by Bryan eventually defeating Taft and Roosevelt in 1912 and he began taking the Democratic Party and america into a much more progressive direction. Fdr would follow suit 20 years later So by and large, the democrats didn’t really change that much. This video is wrong saying there was a party switch
@@ARKHAM367 uh no southern democrats weren’t. First of all just forget about labels like liberal or conservative or progressive or whatever because they don’t mean anything. While southern states initially were pro small government after reconstruction and the progressive era they became pro large government. Mississippi was the second state after Wisconsin to enact an income tax. Kentucky became the first state to let women vote. Southern politicians focused on controlling monopolies. Woodrow Wilson himself had roots in the deep south, tho had primarily lived in the north for his college career. The south overwhelmingly supported FDR voting for him by 99 percent in some instances. Even LBJ who many cite as the mark of the political flip, was from Texas but want to treat him as the exception. Truman’s initiative of racial integration did begin a schism between north and south but for the most part they agreed on every other issue. So no I wouldn’t say the southern democrats of that period would be republicans by todays standard. The south moved republican because racial tensions died down by the 1980s and the democratic based moved to northern upper class interests. Plus after WWII both parties became general pro interventionist and pro free trade. Simply put Dixiecrats stayed Dixiecrats until they died and were replaced by new generations of southern republicans. But schools gas light everyone into believing there was a big switch. Just look up guys like James Vardaman or Theodore Bilbo and you’ll see these guys were lock step with the progressive movement yet now a days they’re labeled as conservatives and right wing. Bilbo in particular voted 100 percent for the new deal in the senate yet is called a right winger on wikipedia
@@ARKHAM367 again man, social conservative means nothing. What were they conserving? It completely changes over time. Wallace was a democrat. He briefly established a third party but rejoined the democrats. He remained a democrat through his fourth term and died a democrat. He also probably would’ve won the democratic nomination over McGovern in 1972 if he wasn’t shot. Nixon didn’t have a southern strategy. It was a sunbelt strategy appealing to suburbanite across California, Arizona and the south. If you look at a state level election map, Nixon did best in suburban counties. Wallace did best in rural counties and Humphrey did best in black and urban counties. In most states Nixon came in third before Wallace or Humphrey. Even without Wallace it’s unlikely Nixon wins the south. Nixon did poorly with the rural areas which were the democratic base. It’s also important to note, wallace didn’t run a regional campaign. In fact he didn’t even run a segregationist campaign. His messaging was primarily on the Vietnam war and crime. He outright said in several interviews he wouldn’t enforce segregation anywhere. Wallace was an old school progressive democrat which by 1960 was erroneously labeled as conservative. As government he expanded welfare, tried to overturn right to work and was an isolationist. He really wasn’t that much different than Hubert Humphrey besides racial politics. He was never the “southern” candidate and positioned himself as a person with national appeal. He also certainly wasn’t to Nixon’s right and Nixon himself was basically a centrist. I find it funny how despite being Eisenhower’s VP, libs love Ike despite Nixon being similar to him. As for the Atwater quote, watch the entire interview. He states several times reagan didn’t need a southern strategy. But people take that one line out of context and ignore what he was actually saying. A person asked him what his thoughts are on claims of racial dog whistles and his point is that racism has become so unacceptable that things have gotten so abstract that economic policies are called racist. He outright said “I’m coming at this from a psychologist perspective, not a campaigner.” The point being as he put it we are doing away with racial politics if you go from saying the n word openly to talking about economics. “But Reagan did not have to do a. Southern strategy for two reasons. Number one, race was not a dominant issue, and number two the mainstream issues in this campaign had been quote southern issues since way back in the sixties. So reagan goes out and campaigns on the issues of economics and of national defense. The whole campaign was devoid of any king of racism, any kind of reference.” In fact Atwater stated that a campaign using dog whistles failed in the south several times versus one devoid of race. People were over race by 1980. No one cared. As for abortion, the majority of people in both parties generally took anti abortion approaches. Even Hillary Clinton promoted “safe legal but rare” versus now where you should shout your abortion. Considering Trump is called far right despite taking the most generic and vague anti abortion stance is a testament to the Overton window being so far left. But again look at the broader history. Since 1912 the democrats were the left wing party not the republicans. Wilson was undoubtedly to the left of Harding and Coolidge. Fdr was to their left as well. There was zero difference between the Dixiecrat of 1960 and the generic democrat of 1912 or even 1930. Remember fdr generally avoided racial issues. Even wilson called out lynchings and demanding a stop. The only difference between wallace and Humphrey was their stance on segregation but 90 percent of other issues they were lock step, except maybe interventionism. Do there was no southern strategy. This also isn’t even getting into the fact prior to the civil war, the south was actually far LESS racist than the north
@@zacharyuy-tioco2539 both got blasted in the right ear and have love train as the theme song (Ojays created "trump train" in 2019) he also wanted to buy Greenland, the place where stand arrows originated from as a meteor
Knowing Valentine's powers, I'm gonna say boths. With the amount of parallel universes Valentine gets to explore, I doubt he kept his political career stuck on 1 side.
Something that I think is also makes Funny Valentine an interesting (and excellent) villain is that, even within the American isolationism ideal he has, it's still from a bigoted perspective because he has no problem with even a few American lives lost just so that he can obtain the Holy Corpse. The cross-country race in of itself was recognized as dangerous and life-threatening, and the lives of the Steeles and his subordinates doesn't phase him either (even back before he could accuse Lucy Steele's actions as treason). In a lot of ways, Funny Valentine kinda reminds me of Pucci but with his ideals and goals being a little more complex.
@@MASKarade25 He was the first Marxist to EVER come to power, too bad Johnny stopped him before he could overthrow global capitalism, along with all of it's Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
if you are Funny, people will laugh at you if you are Funny the president of the United States of America, people will still laugh at you but silently.
You forgot to mention the parallel universes that D4C creates where Funny Valentine could be both a Democrat AND a Republican, whichever timeline you choose. That mixes things up a bit. Like there has to be a JoJo world where neither party existed! Like, he coulda been a Federalist for all we know!
Yea, I'm like, since when reform vs change was the dichotomy. Just imagine, does a right winger become a leftist when leftist reforms become the norm for society. I know it's an oversimplification, but, simplifications are suppose to be somewhat accurate and make sense lol.
@@noahedlen8053yeah the oversimplification makes the statement incorrect, in the sense that the parties goals really aren’t reform vs tradition, rather the goals of the parties align in todays world in those values. It’s basically a causation correlation falacy
Democrat vs. Republican is very vague terminology in the first place. To my knowledge, it doesn't really have an inherent meaning. As such, the simplification works fine. Generally speaking, modern day Democrats lean more towards change (good or bad) and modern day Republicans lean more towards keeping the status quo (good or bad). In the 1800's, that sentiment was the same, it's just that the party names switched.
Yeah, the party names are the real confusers. Democrats? The entire government is democratic you idiot. Republicans? The country is a republic! Like why not just liberals and conservatives? No need to pull other political terms into the mix.
There's also the fact that he's a union civil war veteran and literally all of them were republicans and the ones that became presidents were the most republican
I think it's a little silly to say Funny Valentine would be a modern day Democrat when, as you say in the video he is full isolationist. Isolationism may have been a bipartisan stance years ago, it is most definitely a right wing one today. Modern dems that hold such views are considered to hold "right wing views". Also Funny having a black body guard is very possible, just look at the stories of Frederick Douglass and Booker T Washington.
I think it makes sence more that he’s a Republican becuase while there was a party switch… a lot of the values of the two parties stayed to same (such as the republicans being more “patriotic” or the democrats being the party for the poor) so I think it works.
I'm pretty sure Axl Ro was a confederate soldier and we see the confederate uniforms in his flashback. While in Valentine's flashback we see him wearing a different uniform, possibly Araki distinguishing the two different sides during the Civil War. It's pretty safe to say Valentine was a Union Soldier and that would pretty safely align him with the Republicans like Lincoln and Grant
The whole "big switch" thing was a misinterpretation, both parties moved to the more liberal side but the Democrats made the leap farther when it became unpopular to be an Democrat.
@@normanclatcher the most infamous third party was the republican party, becoming so popular it became one of the two parties, leaving the other one to fade to obscurity.
@@evanhorn951 Whig Party, which would never again elect a President after Millard Fillmore (#13), and fell out of relevancy almost entirely by the time of Lincoln (#16), who was the first Republican to take that office. As for what I was trying to say, I _Know Nothing_ about third parties in the mid-19th century.
1:43 I actually know the answer to this from a friend who took history in his college class and explained this! From what I can remember, the reason why the two parties changed is because when John F. Kennedy became president, he was a Democrat which would be the modern day Republican. Since Kennedy was the youngest and probably the more popular and coolest President, the Democrats back then viewed his presidency and how he was as a president didn’t like him and thought he didn’t fit with their ideals. So during his presidency, the parties began to switch their ideals and thus became the two modern policies of the US. All because a political party didn’t like their president.
There’s a lot more to it than that. Kennedy was socially progressive, which southern Democrats disagreed with, and likewise, as Nixon would find out, the Republicans were becoming more socially conservative at the same time. Kennedy, of course, got shot, and LBJ took his place, and when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that was the final straw for the southern Democrats. They left for the Republicans, and the remaining liberal elements of the Republicans joined the Dems. It wasn’t a complete party switch, though, until the next generation of voters, who backed Ronald Reagan, the first modern neoliberal conservative US president, for the Republicans.
But, like, no? Sounds like your friend has no idea. The reversal started way before JFK's presidency. Most Democrats liked JFK except the southern Democrats, who were popularly called the Dixiecrats. The conservative Dixiecrats opposed JFK's support of the rising civil rights movement and after JFK was assassinated, his successor LBJ passed the civil rights act, in effect ensuring the seperation of Dixiecrats from the mainline Democratic party. Several members of the southern Democrats shifted over to the Republican party while many moderate members of the Republican party shifted over to the Democratic party. Gradually the party messaging changed to the Democratic party becoming more progressive and the Republican changing their messaging to be more conservative to attract the disgruntle southern former Democrats. You can see this shift in the way that in the 1950s, about 70% Democrats were center left with the remaining being far-right(the Dixiecrats), and most Republicans being center-right. In the 1970s, most Democrats were center-left while most Republicans were right with some far-right. This ended with the Reagan presidency solidifying the Republican party as the conservative party. So, no the parties didn't switch during the JFK presidency, it was a gradual process that had been going on for about 4 decades at that point. The passing of the civil rights act acted as a peak in the switch. Btw, the point you said is very often said by conservatives who want to claim JFK as some sort of conservative leader who got betrayed by his own party, but like I said, JFK was mostly progressive who was hated by the conservative minority in his party.
I’m glad you mentioned the shift of political party ideology from time periods. This is something many people don’t seem to learn when discussing politics.
It's not even true though the republicans were just the anti slavery party, The left today just like to say the party's switch, because they don't want to seem responsible for slavery
One small correction: Isolationism doesn't necessarily mean caring about one's own country at the expense of others. Rather, it's a policy or doctrine whereby a nation prioritizes minimizing its involvement in international affairs, foreign wars, and alliances.
Suppose that you were sitting down at this table. The napkins are in front of you, which napkin would you take? The one on your ‘left’? Or the one on your ‘right’? The one on your left side? Or the one on your right side? Usually you would take the one on your left side. That is ‘correct’ too. But in a larger sense on society, that is wrong. Perhaps I could even substitute ‘society’ with the ‘Universe’. The correct answer is that ‘It is determined by the one who takes his or her own napkin first.’ …Yes? If the first one takes the napkin to their right, then there’s no choice but for others to also take the ‘right’ napkin. The same goes for the left. Everyone else will take the napkin to their left, because they have no other option. This is ‘society’… Who are the ones that determine the price of land first? There must have been someone who determined the value of money, first. The size of the rails on a train track? The magnitude of electricity? Laws and Regulations? Who was the first to determine these things? Did we all do it, because this is a Republic? Or was it Arbitrary? NO! The one who took the napkin first determined all of these things! The rules of this world are determined by that same principle of ‘right or left?’! In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who isrespected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers’. In the case of this table, the ‘eldest’ or the ‘Master of the party’ will take the napkin first… Because everyone ‘respects’ those individuals.
Since Democrats were primarily a party of the south back in the day, Democrats being associated with the confederacy would’ve still been a relatively recent memory for Valentine. Thus I feel like D4Cs ability to protect America at the expense of other countries could actually strengthen the argument for him being a Republican, as the democrats of the time had just recently tried to form a separate country from the US, so the value of the US as whole wouldn’t have been as strong with them, which is backed by the right’s historical focus on states rights as opposed to federal overview. Therefore I feel that D4C’s ability to protect the US as a whole at the expense of other countries supports Valentine being a Republican of the time.
Dude I love your channel you have the same whimsical energy as me. You are what i strive to be like you’re literally me but if i was a dude and if i was cool
To say the parties swapped is a bit reductive. As a party if you got all your reforms you would have no reason to be a reformist party anymore. Likewise if you suffered a huge loss you would want to become more reformist to course correct.
I always assumed he had been some sort of anomalous third party political genius like Teddy Roosevelt, mainly because of his rather Machiavellian attitude. Perhaps Araki's point is related to the idea that the two parties in America aren't really that different when it comes to controlling power dynamics and exploiting the third world
I love how JJBA fans argue over shippings or which is the strongest stand, and then there’s fan arguing over what political party Funny Valentine is on
Republicans were originally the party of anti slavery , modern day republicans are also anti slavery The parties did not switch The democrats just don't want to seem responsible for slavery
@@BogChild a republican JUST YESTERDAY tried to ram through the fence of the white house and admitted to wanting to harm President Biden. Republicans hate the US
I think a better way to think of US politics is that before WWII the US had its own political spectrum that's more based on disagreements between liberals about what kind of liberal policies are best. Even in the slavery debate, the pro-slavery people used liberal arguments about decentralized authority, property rights, etc. to try and defend owning people. They gradually drifted towards a more typical right/left divide after the war until it cemented itself some time between the 60s and 80s depending on if you think Nixon or Reagan were the main force.
He’s on the side of the one great American system, superior to the control of all transatlantic force or influence, and able to dictate the terms of the connection between the old and the new world
The party switch myth is the biggest lie that has ever been taught in schools. There was no party switch the democrats controlled the south from before the civil war until the late nineties. Their policies remained almost completely unchanged. The only thing that moved them forward from being total racist today is it the entire nation change.
Right vs left is about "how much power does the state have" Right = less Left = more (Which is why they appear to have swapped. Because a line was crossed at one point, and Republicans, full disclosure I am one, have been trying to go back ever since)
they never swapped, the left lost the south post civil rights when they significantly raised taxes on them to pay for more government programs. Everyone is saying because that demographic changed suddenly in one part of the country it must mean that both parties 'swapped sides'.
@@wolf980911 Facts approve of it because people can't name more then 1 or 2 politicians that swapped side post civil rights movement. especially Joe Biden.
i'm so glad you clarified that the political parties in the usa were different in the past. People are always pointing at historical things and generalizing it to the modern parties
As an American AP gov student I can confirm you got this all right however I would also have mentioned his family’s side in the civil war and how family is the most impactful form of political socialization
Biden would teleport himself to another dimension and wouldn't be able to return to his actual universe because he would forget that he has a stand and wtf It does
His extreme nationalism seems like it would align more with modern day republicans but I could see him creating his own party similar to Teddy Roosevelt when he attempted to run for a third term. He’s got his own views, his own way of doing things, he sees the world and moves forward on his own terms.
I really, really want Funny Valentine to appear on the currency during JoJolands.
That would be hilarious
@@rosal3755 There's literally a coin with his face on it in SBR, but it's just cover art so maybe... just maybe...
@@chewiedog1Why yes, it would
@@chewiedog1 You could say... it'd be... Funny
@@Kado2369badum tssss
Funny Valentine obtains the power to redirect America's misery/calamity or whatever to other countries, which as a non american I can confirm both parties would do this, but the Democrats would pretend to be apologetic about it.
As an American i can further confirm this
I though the democrats wanted America to be a nation for everyone?
As a Puertorican aka a Diet American I can also confirm this.
As an American of Puerto Rican decent, I also confirm this.
I’d direct it all to China.
How can all American politicians be evil when in the pt 1-6 universe, Smokey was a politician
Different universe?
Weird analogy but ok
I'm trying my best not to be racist
He's not rich from the start and his political status is not higher.
Smokey never got to run for President. Shame, too, I woulda voted for him.
Considering he was a union soldier in the civil war I can’t imagine he was anything but a Republican
And after the civil war, Republican dominated politics
bigly point if true, lots of people are saying it
northern democrats existed, and while they were probably more likely to desert or live in counties and regions that ignored the draft, plenty of northern democrats would have fought in union forces, reluctantly or not. the first three volunteer generals appointed by lincoln were democrats. northern democrats were pretty fractured by the civil war, and plenty opposed slavery, secession, etc. look up “war democrats”
@@senecavermeulen8110 that’s definitely true but I’m just talking likelihood.
Funny Valentine seeming right wing and being shockingly equal also makes sense for a 19th century Republican
The fact his footsteps don't make a sound and he can play instruments with his feet is funny and makes it an interesting character
Wait, it's funny? Haha get it? Like Funny Valentine from my favourite manga series JoJo's bizzare adventure: part 7 steel ball run.
I forgot he could do that lmao
@@bigcheesey98 , same here.
His footsteps actually make a sound at the end of the lovetrain arc for some reason
must be good for quenching the thirst at 3am
I've just realised that Funny Valentine, who needs to be 'between two things' to use his powers, sits as President between two terms of Grover Cleveland
More seriously, with regard to Mike O, a good analogy could be William Slade, Lincoln's usher and valet, and a free-born black man working in the President's staff in the 1860s. I don't believe Mike ever wields a knife or gun on-panel, meaning from the perspective of normal people he isn't even an armed guard but simply a manservant.
Higgledy-piggledy Benjamin Harrison
23rd President was and as such
_Served between Clevelands,_ and save for this trivial
Idiosyncrasy didn't do much
or Donald trump
@@High56278that would be if sbr took place during 2020-2024, but since it’s the 1890s then it’d be between 2 clevelands. would be funny to get sbr 2 with trump cameos
I thought he was an independent/populist, because it is mentioned that he has a 91% approval rate in like the last chapters.
He could be like Bernie Sanders where he's basically a third party/independent but running as one of the main two parties because third party candidates never become president
@@redjirachi1 never say never! It has indeed happened before!
@@redjirachi1 You could say the same about Trump considering he tried to become president as a democrat too back then
@@pierofasulli1076 True. Bernie and Trump are both largely populist candidates.
I swear chewiedog1 could make the most random videos about jojo and I'd still watch it
As a Brazilian I would proudly export coffee to Valentine dirt cheap
What a dirty deed
Something is going to be done here
Queime os latifundiários
@@TheDukeofDeath666perhaps… done dirt cheap?
*dadidiisdadodatochip* 🔥
genuinely and completely unironically this is probably one of your best videos. next tell us if Jonathan and Dio in part 1 were Tories
Jonathan's a noble, of course he's a tory
Jonathan was probably a Tory bcs of the whole landowning noble thing but could've been a Liberal due to how he was as a person.
Dio was probably a Tory because he was a huge asshole who wanted money and power. He'd have invented the modern Conservatives had he been a politician.
There's a chance that he was part of the Liberals as some nobles supported that party and I would think that due to his character he would at least be pro-reform.
Of course they’re Tories, they’re nobility. Also Part 3 DIO is a Libertarian as proposed by Shayne from Smosh
Considering Dio’s reputation for backstabbing, the answer is yes.
Dont know bout you guys, but I think Funny Valentine was a president
Perhaps, but I’m unsure
Wow, no freakin way that's true
Wow how funny and original
funny being not too far off from benjamin harrison would have to be the case since in the jojolands jodio goes to a high school named after president mckinley, who came after harrison and whose administration annexed hawaii.
what i’m really curious about is who funny’s vice president would be since they would have to take his spot after johnny kills him.
probably one of the other stand users funny valentine had yet to send out to kill johnny and gyro like how dio probably had many other stand users he yet to have send out or the vice president is a alternate universe smokey
My theory is that the VP was Benjamin Harrison, and Valentine was just written out of the history books after his death.
@@brokenursa9986 the president with 90% approval rating was just erased from history damn
@@edixonvc5101 This is... Requiem.
@@edixonvc5101 I mean given what stands can do maybe Benjamin Harrison's got a Stand and his Stand DOES basically redact people from history (and living memory).
Or Johnny was so angry that he managed to memoryhole Valentine's existence
I think Funny Valentine does have right-wing politics, he definitely has things that make him more center-right
But he definitely was a Republican, but with probably less extreme right-wing positions than the democrats
Its important to remember that republicans and democrats in that time were different until roosevelt came in so thats incorrect
@@vincentriegelblaesing1685 if I remember correctly, wasn’t Nixon the first modern Republican, what with the southern strategy? Up until that point it’s hard to place any candidate in a modern party because views were a bit shuffled
No man he wouldn’t be center right he wants more power so he is actually authoritarian more than libertarian showing your ignorance truly
@@Yesmanpersondude people from the center are authoritarian lol
"Less extreme right wing positions than the democrats" I had a stroke reading this comment I hope you can afford my hospital bill
This was actually surprisingly informative. Good on you for doing your research.
Yeah the big switch is big lie so it helping spread a lie
To get a more realistic answer, it is clear funny valentine is a nationalist and a libertarian (modern right leaning), that aspect of the Republican Party hasn't really been altered since its conception since the civil war with the free soilers and stuff making the majority of the party and wanting the Union to prosper. Heck the whole obtaining the corpse parts is just an alternate skin of "manifest destiny"
In 1800s Manifest Destiny was primarily a Democrat Party doctrine.
@@josukehigashikata9551 the democrats literally split into the rep and demonstrates parties based upon how they wanted to enact manifest destinies. Know-nothings, free soilers, and even whigs (who are democrats) would formed the rep party. the rep party in early 1800s technically didn't exist yet. but its very free soiler in thought process, specially with the context of the napkin speech
Meanwhile Araki who didnt even give a moment to think about this
Valentine being an Union veteran for the Civil War also strongly leans him to be a Republican based on simple voting patterns at the time.
Also, the Republican Party was not "left wing" in anyway, aside from abolitionism, wherein after that issue was settled they became strongly in the right. The Republicans under McKinley were pretty much pro business(which is why they were isolationist) and expansionist, annexing Hawaii, the Philippines and Puerto Rico for example. Ironically, Republicans were anti free trade since they believed that it would hurt domestic industry, an idea that is only making a comeback.
Theodore Roosevelt, a republican, was domestically progressive but he was a war hawk and anti immigration.
It was the Democrats who gradually adopted left wing ideas basically adopting patronage politics
If you look at it one way, the parties never changed. The Republicans have always been the party of "Everyone should have the same chance to pull up their boot straps and earn their own living." In the 1800s, that meant giving Blacks the chance to be equal. In the modern world, that means not giving special treatment to minorities. The difference is that meant elevating some to not elevating others, as the nation became more equal. The Democrats have always been the party of White Savior-ism. In the 1800s, that meant it was their "right" to control the Minority populations on plantations to make a lot of money, supposedly for their own good. In the modern world, it means providing monetary hand-outs and group identities to control Minority populations in city slums to make a lot of money, supposedly for their own good. The difference is that they traded Fear and Chains for Greed and Peer Pressure.
Republicans: "Get out and work for it, pansy."
Democrats: "We're from the Government and we're here to help."
Thank god I’m not the only one that cringed at the videos breakdown of late Victorian US politics
@@ARKHAM367 by and large yes but change was already happening.
Let’s start from the beginning. The original two major American parties were the federalists and the Democratic-Republicans who we’ll just call DemPubs. Federalists were generally based on the eastern seaboard and in large cities which favored a more centralized government such as the ideals men like Alexander Hamilton promoted. The DemPubs supported more decentralized state powers and were lead by Jefferson. Ultimately after Jefferson defeated John Adams (the only official federalist president) in 1800, the DemPubs dominated politics for the next 3 decades and saw the federalists dissolve complete
In 1832 we saw another major realignment. Because former federalists essentially joined the DemPubs along with it being a national party, many felt the party lost its Jeffersonian identity, the most prominent being Andrew Jackson. Jackson was a self made man and frontiersman who believed in the vision of Jeffersonian democracy. He used his status as a war hero to launch a political career and eventually ran for president as one of four DemPubs. Despite winning both a plurality of the popular and electoral college vote, Jackson wouldn’t enter the White House and instead John Quincy Adams, son of former federalist John Adams, won via a dealing in congress.
This lead to jackson leaving the DemPubs and establishing the Democratic Party, the same party that stands today. Jackson essentially evolved the Jeffersonian ideal, maintaining the belief of limited federal power but promoting democracy of the common man, something Jefferson initially promoted but slowly phased out. He supported further enfranchisement of whites and expansion into western territories along with a reduction of tariffs and stopping national infrastructure projects.
Despite his opposition to federal power, critics compared Jackson to a king due to his liberal usage of the veto and the Whig party was born from anti jackson dissenters. The Whigs were essentially spiritual successors to Federalists supporting a stronger federal government and higher tariffs to protect industries. However the Whigs would never really consolidate their base and kept nominating old dudes who died in office leading to mediocre VPs to succeed them and as such the Whigs faded into obscurity. Many Whigs either rejoined the democrats or formed a new party.
By 1840, slavery was the new hot topic. This lead to the formation of the Republican Party. Although discussions were about slavery there was greater economic philosophies at hand. Republicans like the federalists and Whigs were concentrated in cities and as such supported mercantilism plans of high tariffs. Lincoln himself had been a former Whig and apprentice of Henry Clay the former party leader. It’s also worth mentioning most people who were anti slavery weren’t necessarily pro equal rights and in fact often proposed colonization to remove blacks from the country.
After the civil war, republicans dominated politics and maintained high tariffs for the benefit of big business. Likewise after reconstruction ended they’d drop any pretexts of supporting African Americans. Democrats for the most part didn’t really change still supporting free trade. During the gilded age, Grover Cleveland would be the only democrat elected and enacted low tariff but pro business policies. In terms of expansionism, both parties were split but the democrats were generally more isolationist than republicans with Cleveland rejecting annexation of Hawaii but would be completed by his successor Benjamin Harrison.
Then we get to the progressive era and again both parties had progressive factions in response to the rise of corporate power. Theodore Roosevelt who was a Republican became the first progressive president and began cracking down on monopolies. His successor Taft would continue the policy even more effectively but political squabbles lead to Roosevelt splitting. During this period the democrats were transmogrifying thanks to the de facto leader former Nebraska congressman William Jennings Bryan who steered the party away from the laisses-faire leadership of Cleveland and again to support progressivism. Keep in mind progressive here means expansion of government power into every aspect of life, including the rise of eugenics as a means of population control and being anti-immigrant and pro assimilation. Similarly progressives were split on imperialism.
This leads to Wilson who after a successful term as governor ran for president and was endorsed by Bryan eventually defeating Taft and Roosevelt in 1912 and he began taking the Democratic Party and america into a much more progressive direction. Fdr would follow suit 20 years later
So by and large, the democrats didn’t really change that much. This video is wrong saying there was a party switch
@@ARKHAM367 uh no southern democrats weren’t. First of all just forget about labels like liberal or conservative or progressive or whatever because they don’t mean anything.
While southern states initially were pro small government after reconstruction and the progressive era they became pro large government. Mississippi was the second state after Wisconsin to enact an income tax. Kentucky became the first state to let women vote. Southern politicians focused on controlling monopolies. Woodrow Wilson himself had roots in the deep south, tho had primarily lived in the north for his college career. The south overwhelmingly supported FDR voting for him by 99 percent in some instances. Even LBJ who many cite as the mark of the political flip, was from Texas but want to treat him as the exception. Truman’s initiative of racial integration did begin a schism between north and south but for the most part they agreed on every other issue.
So no I wouldn’t say the southern democrats of that period would be republicans by todays standard. The south moved republican because racial tensions died down by the 1980s and the democratic based moved to northern upper class interests. Plus after WWII both parties became general pro interventionist and pro free trade. Simply put Dixiecrats stayed Dixiecrats until they died and were replaced by new generations of southern republicans. But schools gas light everyone into believing there was a big switch. Just look up guys like James Vardaman or Theodore Bilbo and you’ll see these guys were lock step with the progressive movement yet now a days they’re labeled as conservatives and right wing. Bilbo in particular voted 100 percent for the new deal in the senate yet is called a right winger on wikipedia
@@ARKHAM367 again man, social conservative means nothing. What were they conserving? It completely changes over time.
Wallace was a democrat. He briefly established a third party but rejoined the democrats. He remained a democrat through his fourth term and died a democrat. He also probably would’ve won the democratic nomination over McGovern in 1972 if he wasn’t shot. Nixon didn’t have a southern strategy. It was a sunbelt strategy appealing to suburbanite across California, Arizona and the south. If you look at a state level election map, Nixon did best in suburban counties. Wallace did best in rural counties and Humphrey did best in black and urban counties. In most states Nixon came in third before Wallace or Humphrey. Even without Wallace it’s unlikely Nixon wins the south. Nixon did poorly with the rural areas which were the democratic base.
It’s also important to note, wallace didn’t run a regional campaign. In fact he didn’t even run a segregationist campaign. His messaging was primarily on the Vietnam war and crime. He outright said in several interviews he wouldn’t enforce segregation anywhere. Wallace was an old school progressive democrat which by 1960 was erroneously labeled as conservative. As government he expanded welfare, tried to overturn right to work and was an isolationist. He really wasn’t that much different than Hubert Humphrey besides racial politics. He was never the “southern” candidate and positioned himself as a person with national appeal. He also certainly wasn’t to Nixon’s right and Nixon himself was basically a centrist. I find it funny how despite being Eisenhower’s VP, libs love Ike despite Nixon being similar to him.
As for the Atwater quote, watch the entire interview. He states several times reagan didn’t need a southern strategy. But people take that one line out of context and ignore what he was actually saying. A person asked him what his thoughts are on claims of racial dog whistles and his point is that racism has become so unacceptable that things have gotten so abstract that economic policies are called racist. He outright said “I’m coming at this from a psychologist perspective, not a campaigner.” The point being as he put it we are doing away with racial politics if you go from saying the n word openly to talking about economics.
“But Reagan did not have to do a. Southern strategy for two reasons. Number one, race was not a dominant issue, and number two the mainstream issues in this campaign had been quote southern issues since way back in the sixties. So reagan goes out and campaigns on the issues of economics and of national defense. The whole campaign was devoid of any king of racism, any kind of reference.”
In fact Atwater stated that a campaign using dog whistles failed in the south several times versus one devoid of race. People were over race by 1980. No one cared.
As for abortion, the majority of people in both parties generally took anti abortion approaches. Even Hillary Clinton promoted “safe legal but rare” versus now where you should shout your abortion. Considering Trump is called far right despite taking the most generic and vague anti abortion stance is a testament to the Overton window being so far left.
But again look at the broader history. Since 1912 the democrats were the left wing party not the republicans. Wilson was undoubtedly to the left of Harding and Coolidge. Fdr was to their left as well. There was zero difference between the Dixiecrat of 1960 and the generic democrat of 1912 or even 1930. Remember fdr generally avoided racial issues. Even wilson called out lynchings and demanding a stop. The only difference between wallace and Humphrey was their stance on segregation but 90 percent of other issues they were lock step, except maybe interventionism. Do there was no southern strategy.
This also isn’t even getting into the fact prior to the civil war, the south was actually far LESS racist than the north
In my opinion valentine is the most interesting person in steel ball run
I mean I'd vote Funny Valentine in whatever party he's in, compared to todays politics he's way better than the bumbling goofs we've had
I mean he just wants his country to be the best it can be to help it’s people he is what politicians should be
He may be cruel but damn he’s effective
A good reason why we should reelect Trump!
@@bathilra5364 he wanted to fuck a teenager and make the whole world a hellhole except for the US
@@AngraMainiiu he just said in the ending of the video funny isnt right winged
Well now we know
Indeed.
Dojyaaan. We missed something, he has already achieved Love Train.
donald duck done dirt cheap
@@zacharyuy-tioco2539 both got blasted in the right ear and have love train as the theme song (Ojays created "trump train" in 2019)
he also wanted to buy Greenland, the place where stand arrows originated from as a meteor
😭😭
Knowing Valentine's powers, I'm gonna say boths. With the amount of parallel universes Valentine gets to explore, I doubt he kept his political career stuck on 1 side.
+ third party, cause why not.
@@admiralmonocle3874 Funny Valentine's political affiliations: Yes/Other (America)
Something that I think is also makes Funny Valentine an interesting (and excellent) villain is that, even within the American isolationism ideal he has, it's still from a bigoted perspective because he has no problem with even a few American lives lost just so that he can obtain the Holy Corpse. The cross-country race in of itself was recognized as dangerous and life-threatening, and the lives of the Steeles and his subordinates doesn't phase him either (even back before he could accuse Lucy Steele's actions as treason).
In a lot of ways, Funny Valentine kinda reminds me of Pucci but with his ideals and goals being a little more complex.
funny valentine was actually a shock green party victory, araki told me this in a dream
@@MASKarade25 He was the first Marxist to EVER come to power, too bad Johnny stopped him before he could overthrow global capitalism, along with all of it's Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
@@MASKarade25kid named Me Bro: I disagree
It was told to me in a dream 🗿 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
Funny valentine goes to war with silly love (British funny valentine)
Jojo teaches us that you can accomplish anything, even if your name is Funny Stewart
if you are Funny, people will laugh at you
if you are Funny the president of the United States of America, people will still laugh at you but silently.
It would probably help you in the polls
maybe the real political stance of funny valentine was the friends we made along the way
You forgot to mention the parallel universes that D4C creates where Funny Valentine could be both a Democrat AND a Republican, whichever timeline you choose. That mixes things up a bit. Like there has to be a JoJo world where neither party existed! Like, he coulda been a Federalist for all we know!
As a US History major I am trying so fucking hard to not go “um actually 🤓” on the whole party switch thing.
Americans when the ideologies of century-old political parties have evolved since their conception:
Me listening Chewie explaining the political spectrum completely different than I have been taught in my country:
Huh?
Yea, I'm like, since when reform vs change was the dichotomy. Just imagine, does a right winger become a leftist when leftist reforms become the norm for society. I know it's an oversimplification, but, simplifications are suppose to be somewhat accurate and make sense lol.
@@noahedlen8053yeah the oversimplification makes the statement incorrect, in the sense that the parties goals really aren’t reform vs tradition, rather the goals of the parties align in todays world in those values. It’s basically a causation correlation falacy
Democrat vs. Republican is very vague terminology in the first place. To my knowledge, it doesn't really have an inherent meaning.
As such, the simplification works fine. Generally speaking, modern day Democrats lean more towards change (good or bad) and modern day Republicans lean more towards keeping the status quo (good or bad).
In the 1800's, that sentiment was the same, it's just that the party names switched.
Yeah, the party names are the real confusers.
Democrats? The entire government is democratic you idiot.
Republicans? The country is a republic!
Like why not just liberals and conservatives? No need to pull other political terms into the mix.
This is real
As a Texan I can proudly say I'd vote for funny valentine
As another Texan I'd gladly vote for any Republican
As a Texan, I'd like someone capable to run next time, not the last two times
@@Orion_44 wym
@@krizthecookingbeaner2567 you know exactly what I mean
@@krizthecookingbeaner2567ah the sheep being sheep. Story as old as time
I was genuinely wondering this the other day. Glad we have this video.
There was both conservatives and liberals in the Republican Party in the 1890s and the party switch isn't all true.
There's also the fact that he's a union civil war veteran and literally all of them were republicans and the ones that became presidents were the most republican
I think it's a little silly to say Funny Valentine would be a modern day Democrat when, as you say in the video he is full isolationist. Isolationism may have been a bipartisan stance years ago, it is most definitely a right wing one today. Modern dems that hold such views are considered to hold "right wing views". Also Funny having a black body guard is very possible, just look at the stories of Frederick Douglass and Booker T Washington.
Funny is not in the 2020's though. He is in the 1890's
I think it makes sence more that he’s a Republican becuase while there was a party switch… a lot of the values of the two parties stayed to same (such as the republicans being more “patriotic” or the democrats being the party for the poor) so I think it works.
The biggest plot twist for me, was finding out you're Canadian.
Well well well
_well… well… well…_
I would watch the news more often if it was Funny Valentine vs Steven Armstrong
I'm pretty sure Axl Ro was a confederate soldier and we see the confederate uniforms in his flashback. While in Valentine's flashback we see him wearing a different uniform, possibly Araki distinguishing the two different sides during the Civil War. It's pretty safe to say Valentine was a Union Soldier and that would pretty safely align him with the Republicans like Lincoln and Grant
I just want other versions of funny valentine like funny independence or funny thanksgiving
The whole "big switch" thing was a misinterpretation, both parties moved to the more liberal side but the Democrats made the leap farther when it became unpopular to be an Democrat.
he could also belong to a more mysterious, reclusive third party.
I know nothing about third parties in the mid-to-late 19th century.
@@normanclatcher the most infamous third party was the republican party, becoming so popular it became one of the two parties, leaving the other one to fade to obscurity.
@@evanhorn951 Whig Party, which would never again elect a President after Millard Fillmore (#13), and fell out of relevancy almost entirely by the time of Lincoln (#16), who was the first Republican to take that office.
As for what I was trying to say, I _Know Nothing_ about third parties in the mid-19th century.
@@normanclatcher me neither
It might just be me, but I think Valentine would also be a modern day Republican as well if he was sent here, but that's just me
This is the type of questions Araki needs to start answering
A party switch didn't really happen, the parties ideals changed as America changed and specific parties pandered to one thing to get over the other
Thank you Chewiedog1. This video changed my life.
Chewiedog’s stand ability is to make any subject related to jojo into an entertaining video🫡
this man giving us the answers we need ong
1:43 I actually know the answer to this from a friend who took history in his college class and explained this! From what I can remember, the reason why the two parties changed is because when John F. Kennedy became president, he was a Democrat which would be the modern day Republican. Since Kennedy was the youngest and probably the more popular and coolest President, the Democrats back then viewed his presidency and how he was as a president didn’t like him and thought he didn’t fit with their ideals. So during his presidency, the parties began to switch their ideals and thus became the two modern policies of the US. All because a political party didn’t like their president.
So the original "not my president"?
@@AwesomeOpossums0 Pretty much lol
Buddy wrote an essay gonna get dyslexia aint no way
There’s a lot more to it than that. Kennedy was socially progressive, which southern Democrats disagreed with, and likewise, as Nixon would find out, the Republicans were becoming more socially conservative at the same time. Kennedy, of course, got shot, and LBJ took his place, and when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that was the final straw for the southern Democrats. They left for the Republicans, and the remaining liberal elements of the Republicans joined the Dems. It wasn’t a complete party switch, though, until the next generation of voters, who backed Ronald Reagan, the first modern neoliberal conservative US president, for the Republicans.
But, like, no? Sounds like your friend has no idea.
The reversal started way before JFK's presidency. Most Democrats liked JFK except the southern Democrats, who were popularly called the Dixiecrats. The conservative Dixiecrats opposed JFK's support of the rising civil rights movement and after JFK was assassinated, his successor LBJ passed the civil rights act, in effect ensuring the seperation of Dixiecrats from the mainline Democratic party. Several members of the southern Democrats shifted over to the Republican party while many moderate members of the Republican party shifted over to the Democratic party. Gradually the party messaging changed to the Democratic party becoming more progressive and the Republican changing their messaging to be more conservative to attract the disgruntle southern former Democrats. You can see this shift in the way that in the 1950s, about 70% Democrats were center left with the remaining being far-right(the Dixiecrats), and most Republicans being center-right. In the 1970s, most Democrats were center-left while most Republicans were right with some far-right. This ended with the Reagan presidency solidifying the Republican party as the conservative party.
So, no the parties didn't switch during the JFK presidency, it was a gradual process that had been going on for about 4 decades at that point. The passing of the civil rights act acted as a peak in the switch.
Btw, the point you said is very often said by conservatives who want to claim JFK as some sort of conservative leader who got betrayed by his own party, but like I said, JFK was mostly progressive who was hated by the conservative minority in his party.
This video came out at just the right time since I was in DC while I watched it.
I’m glad you mentioned the shift of political party ideology from time periods. This is something many people don’t seem to learn when discussing politics.
It's not even true though the republicans were just the anti slavery party, The left today just like to say the party's switch, because they don't want to seem responsible for slavery
I didnt know that it did. Thought i would have learned that in school and not from a video about a Japanese comic about a completely made up president
@@ThemTwoGamerGuyssource: you made it up
@@Mavuika_Gyaru source being reality... Republicans were created as the anti-slavery party with Abe Lincoln.
Ok but now do fat valentine
He's too big to fit in a video
I second this 😂
The first problem with this video was that you think the parties switched. the parties never switched
He did fight for the Union in the civil war
NEW FUCKING VIDEO LETS GO - me after finding your channel literally just yesterday and watching 3 videos in a row
One small correction:
Isolationism doesn't necessarily mean caring about one's own country at the expense of others. Rather, it's a policy or doctrine whereby a nation prioritizes minimizing its involvement in international affairs, foreign wars, and alliances.
The political parties never swapped, the both of them have the same values today, it’s just the status quo is different
The entire valentine bloodline
Fun valentine(Funny’s dad’s probable name)
Funny valentine
Funnier valentine(his kid or somthn)
Funniest valentine(his kid’s kid or somthn)
I can’t believe that this is an actual question someone asked in the JoJo community 😂
If it's Jojo, questions can be as weird as "what color is Jodio's shit"
@@localshowershitter702 it’s a whitish grey I think under his overall thing
@@gagejoestv2714 source?
@@localshowershitter702 it's the same color as dragona's weenie
@@localshowershitter702 from what I think are official colorations of first chapter specifically the magazine covers
people named Derick shivering in their timbers right now
I cant wait to use this for my history exams
Great video I am now completely prepared for my AP US History exam
Suppose that you were sitting down at this table. The napkins are in front of you, which napkin would you take? The one on your ‘left’? Or the one on your ‘right’? The one on your left side? Or the one on your right side? Usually you would take the one on your left side. That is ‘correct’ too. But in a larger sense on society, that is wrong. Perhaps I could even substitute ‘society’ with the ‘Universe’. The correct answer is that ‘It is determined by the one who takes his or her own napkin first.’ …Yes? If the first one takes the napkin to their right, then there’s no choice but for others to also take the ‘right’ napkin. The same goes for the left. Everyone else will take the napkin to their left, because they have no other option. This is ‘society’… Who are the ones that determine the price of land first? There must have been someone who determined the value of money, first. The size of the rails on a train track? The magnitude of electricity? Laws and Regulations? Who was the first to determine these things? Did we all do it, because this is a Republic? Or was it Arbitrary? NO! The one who took the napkin first determined all of these things! The rules of this world are determined by that same principle of ‘right or left?’! In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who isrespected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers’. In the case of this table, the ‘eldest’ or the ‘Master of the party’ will take the napkin first… Because everyone ‘respects’ those individuals.
*i* *pick* *up* *the* *right* *napkin* *while* *smiling* *warmly*
Since Democrats were primarily a party of the south back in the day, Democrats being associated with the confederacy would’ve still been a relatively recent memory for Valentine. Thus I feel like D4Cs ability to protect America at the expense of other countries could actually strengthen the argument for him being a Republican, as the democrats of the time had just recently tried to form a separate country from the US, so the value of the US as whole wouldn’t have been as strong with them, which is backed by the right’s historical focus on states rights as opposed to federal overview. Therefore I feel that D4C’s ability to protect the US as a whole at the expense of other countries supports Valentine being a Republican of the time.
The type of content Chewie posts is the reason why I even go on the internet.
Dude I love your channel you have the same whimsical energy as me. You are what i strive to be like you’re literally me but if i was a dude and if i was cool
I could either see him being a republican or something like that
Plus i like videos that mix history with jojo is cool
Please make more 😊
Plot twist: he ran independent.
(Jo)e Biden
One thing is sure: his Justice "is utterly unclouded"! 🤣
funny valentine feels like a libertarian to me (he had a redditor triple-chin at one point)
To say the parties swapped is a bit reductive. As a party if you got all your reforms you would have no reason to be a reformist party anymore. Likewise if you suffered a huge loss you would want to become more reformist to course correct.
I just got a video on American history after watching this😂😂
I like to see a video where chewie just makes a video called ''Best stands that can make you president'''
Republican, since trump used d4c love train 😂
THE YMCA!!!!
Imperialism is an all party issue. Its really about upholding stability for them. Its alot like teddy Roosevelt's policies and stuff
I always assumed he had been some sort of anomalous third party political genius like Teddy Roosevelt, mainly because of his rather Machiavellian attitude. Perhaps Araki's point is related to the idea that the two parties in America aren't really that different when it comes to controlling power dynamics and exploiting the third world
I love how JJBA fans argue over shippings or which is the strongest stand, and then there’s fan arguing over what political party Funny Valentine is on
Party swap is not real smh political misinformation in my jojo video
Cry more
@@Mavuika_Gyaru It appears you are associating this with an emotional reaction. Why is that?
@@BogChild because you're crying. "Words hard durr" - you, a monkey
Chewies superior ability to make a video exactly 10 mintues long years after it was lowered to 8 minutes is indisputably pristine
Funny Valentine is everything and everywhere
becouse he can tavel through the multiverse
i swear im watching these like " fuck it lets watch some chewiedog".
i will watch him rank stand feet and be interested
While it could be said that the parties switch seeing valentines ideals he would still be consider a modern day republican tbh
Republicans were originally the party of anti slavery , modern day republicans are also anti slavery The parties did not switch The democrats just don't want to seem responsible for slavery
Modern day Republicans hate America so no
@@Mavuika_Gyaru Nice subjective statement about millions of people with absolutely zero evidence
@@BogChild a republican JUST YESTERDAY tried to ram through the fence of the white house and admitted to wanting to harm President Biden. Republicans hate the US
I think a better way to think of US politics is that before WWII the US had its own political spectrum that's more based on disagreements between liberals about what kind of liberal policies are best. Even in the slavery debate, the pro-slavery people used liberal arguments about decentralized authority, property rights, etc. to try and defend owning people. They gradually drifted towards a more typical right/left divide after the war until it cemented itself some time between the 60s and 80s depending on if you think Nixon or Reagan were the main force.
the parties never flipped
He’s on the side of the one great American system, superior to the control of all transatlantic force or influence, and able to dictate the terms of the connection between the old and the new world
The party switch myth is the biggest lie that has ever been taught in schools. There was no party switch the democrats controlled the south from before the civil war until the late nineties. Their policies remained almost completely unchanged. The only thing that moved them forward from being total racist today is it the entire nation change.
I would die for a valentine spin off where he has to fight off stand users and stuff while doing his presidential campaign
Right vs left is about "how much power does the state have"
Right = less
Left = more
(Which is why they appear to have swapped. Because a line was crossed at one point, and Republicans, full disclosure I am one, have been trying to go back ever since)
they never swapped, the left lost the south post civil rights when they significantly raised taxes on them to pay for more government programs. Everyone is saying because that demographic changed suddenly in one part of the country it must mean that both parties 'swapped sides'.
Anarchism disproves this explanation
@@wolf980911 Facts approve of it because people can't name more then 1 or 2 politicians that swapped side post civil rights movement. especially Joe Biden.
Why does the image of D4C with Donald Trump fit so well together
There was no switch of republican and democrat, that's been debunked several times. Good video, nonetheless.
i'm so glad you clarified that the political parties in the usa were different in the past. People are always pointing at historical things and generalizing it to the modern parties
As an American AP gov student I can confirm you got this all right however I would also have mentioned his family’s side in the civil war and how family is the most impactful form of political socialization
I'm wondering why he was elected in 1889, when the real life 23rd president was elected in 1833?
Maybe Cleveland got reelected
Imagine Biden with D4C. I don’t think he’d understand how to use it because of his dementia tho 😔.
even r63 d4c called d4she would straight up leave him lmao
Biden would teleport himself to another dimension and wouldn't be able to return to his actual universe because he would forget that he has a stand and wtf It does
Yessss, the question that was never asked, but an answer we always needed
His extreme nationalism seems like it would align more with modern day republicans but I could see him creating his own party similar to Teddy Roosevelt when he attempted to run for a third term. He’s got his own views, his own way of doing things, he sees the world and moves forward on his own terms.
Easy to know. Funny Valentine was an "America First" President. So I don't even need to say what party he was from
I think funny Valentine would be republican in the 1800's and in today